Hello, friends.
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Grab your Bible
and friend and sit back
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as we explore
God's word together
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on this edition
of "House Calls."
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Well, welcome again friends.
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We are so thankful
that you've decided
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to join us here on
"House Calls" this morning
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and with me in the
studio is Pastor C.A. Murray.
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Good to be here.
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Yes, it's great
to have you here C.A.
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I am Pastor John Stanton,
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and I am usually here with you.
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We are so thankful
that you have decided
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to join us today.
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And we have an exciting program
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that we've kind of put together
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here on a unique
topic, say Lord and Savior.
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What are the
differences in the words,
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because we see them
use throughout scripture,
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but rarely I think
people talk about that,
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but we are going to
get into that today--
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Yeah, people tend to
think, they are interchangeable,
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they actually are
not. That's right.
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They are quite different.
They are very much different.
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And I think we'll
discover that today.
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That's right, Lord and Savior,
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so He is both, and
so we praise the Lord
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for being able to talk
about that subject today,
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but you know, we
always want to make sure
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we start of the
program with a word of prayer
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and so Pastor Murray
would we lead us into that.
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Glad to do so.
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Gracious Father, we do thank You
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and praise You
for this opportunity
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to talk about our best
friend Christ Jesus. Amen.
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The one who we
want to be both Lord,
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and Savior of our lives.
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For His only in
being both of those things
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that we can experience true
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restoration and
salvation, so bless us this day,
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and those who hear
that they might know
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and understand your
will for their lives
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and that we may
be use as instruments
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to lift up the name of Jesus
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and we thank you in
Christ name, amen. Amen.
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Well, you know, we
involve you in our program
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from week to week,
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and you are
very big part of that
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in your questions.
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And we want to make sure that
we get to a couple questions
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here today in the program.
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Please send us your questions,
they are very important,
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we enjoy them very, very,
much and I know that we've got
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several good ones today. Yeah.
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Pastor Murray, you want to start
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this of with the question.
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All right, this is a question
that comes to us from Jamaica,
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and they have a question on
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Romans Chapter
14 verses 5 and 6,
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asking that we explain that.
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She says I am an Adventist,
I was discussing the Sabbath
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with one of my
Catholic co-workers
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and this text came up in
as part of their discussion,
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so she wants a little help
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with Romans
Chapter 14 verse 5 and 6.
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And my Bible for some reason
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is opened to the book of Matthew
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so I am going over to Romans
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as quick as I possibly
can, Romans Chapter 14.
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This is, you
know, this text has been
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used to say
something that it doesn't say
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for a long time-- Yeah, yeah.
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So I think
that's a good question--
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I remember years
ago, someone sort of
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dropped this text on me,
we were having discussion.
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But here its,
Romans Chapter 14 verse 5,
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"One man esteemeth
one day above another,
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another
esteemeth every day alike.
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Let every man be fully persuaded
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in his own mind.
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He that regardeth the
day, regardeth it unto the Lord
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and he that
regardeth not the day
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to the Lord he
doth not regard it.
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He that eateth,
eateth to the Lord,
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for he giveth
thanks, and he that eateth
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not, to the Lord he eateth
not, and giveth God thanks."
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This text is used to
defend not keeping Sabbath.
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They will say, well,
that's your day, this is mine.
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Bible says I regard one
day, you regard another day.
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It's all
depends on what we want.
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Well, there are
couple of problems with that,
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John, as you well know.
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One, the Sabbath was not
left to man to accept or reject.
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The Sabbath is a
commandment of God
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as important as all
the commandments of God.
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So the question is not
what you like or what I like.
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The question is
what does God like.
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What has God set up
apart? What does God sanctify?
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What does God called
us or joined us to keep?
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When it comes to the
rules, concepts, laws of God,
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our thought on
it, I'm gonna use it,
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it sounds like very raw speech,
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but really don't count,
you know, they don't count.
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God has said, remember
this day, keep this day,
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I've sanctified this
day, I've blessed this day,
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and I'm calling you to
worship Me on that day,
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and I promise a special
blessing if you will do that.
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It's not left
up to our judgment,
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just like adultery is
not left up to our judgment,
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fornication is not
left up to our judgment,
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adoring your parents is
not left up to our judgment,
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covetous is not
left up to our judgment.
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These things are things
that are called to us by God.
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This text is speaking about,
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there were number
practices in New Testament.
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Some people would
fast on particular days.
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Some people
would keep from doing
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certain things on
those days, others would not,
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would not accept those days.
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That was
something that, let say,
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John, I am saying next Thursday,
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I just feel call of God to fast.
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Well, that's my day.
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Now that doesn't
mean, you have to fast,
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that's a day that
I've picked for fast.
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I am regarding
that particular day
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that is not a
prescription for you,
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that's something I've
worked out with my God. Yeah.
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You may pick, okay, I
will do it next Saturday,
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that's your day, that's
the day you're gonna regard.
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Those are days that are
left up to our choosing,
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but the day that
God has called holy
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is not left up to our choosing.
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That has been designated by God.
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And so this is not talking
about the Sabbath. Right.
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This is talking about other
kinds of religious obligations
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and institutions set up by man
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for their own spiritual
strength and walk with God.
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Yeah, you know, and the Sabbath
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doesn't even
appear once in here. No.
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So we can note that. No.
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There is no word,
Sabbath, isn't even here.
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The other thing, I
like what you said there
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about the commandments, our
opinion doesn't really matter
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when it comes to
the commandments.
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Our opinion is--our
opinion is we follow the Lord
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in what He says. Yes.
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And it's
interesting at the beginning
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of this whole passage
'cause you got a back up
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to kind of find the
context, it says in verse 1,
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"Receive one who
is weak in the faith,
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but not to disputes
over doubtful things."
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And I think when
it comes to eating,
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that something that's
a matter of conscience,
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but when it comes
to the commandments,
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those aren't doubtful things,
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those are commands,
yes, those are suggestions.
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And so I think it falls in line
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that as we consider what
God would have us do in life.
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He would lead us and guide us.
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The commandments is
where we start. Precisely.
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And that's why
Jesus kept saying,
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"Keep My
commandments if you love Me"
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and so that's where we begin.
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And another interesting
thing is He says that
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it's His day, not
ours. Not ours, yes.
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We've heard this
over and over again.
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I have, I observe
Wednesday or I observe Friday
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as our Muslim friends do.
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I observe Sunday as many
of our Christians friends do.
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But it's not the
day that we pick,
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it's really about
what the Lord picks.
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He picked after
creation the seventh-day.
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Yeah, yeah, very powerful.
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And then--and we
will come to this
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in another questions later.
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We always have to remember,
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John, as you well know context.
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You can't just rip a
text out of its context
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and then try to
make up location.
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You've got it,
there is always a context,
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where is he going with this.
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You know, where
he is coming from,
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coming and going.
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Where he is
coming, where he is going
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with this particular
thing, and of course, Sabbath,
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as a day is, is
not mentioned here.
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So we are not dealing
with the Sabbath discussion.
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We are dealing with as we said,
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ancillary
things, auxiliary things,
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doubtful things that
could be a matter of opinion.
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Sabbath as we've said
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so clearly is not
a matter of opinion.
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That is something
that comes down from God
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for man's benefit, yeah, yeah.
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You know what's interesting,
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it just hit me and I will just,
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I will say this 'cause
this could go with any subject
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that people study
in the word of God.
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God's word came to
us not by accident.
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It's not one book,
it's made up of 66 books
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by many different
authors and it was put together,
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I believe with very lot
of attention to deep study
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and to God's
leading in which books
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made up the canon
of scripture. Yes.
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And if a book that they
read, and there are many books
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that did not make
the canon of scripture.
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If there are any books,
it seem to be out of harmony
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with the
teachings of the broad scope
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of teachings of the church,
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of Paul's
writings, of the Apostles,
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it was not included. Precisely.
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Why don't we do
that with any topic
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'cause if you take and I
am answering the question
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about taking
something out of context.
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If you take a
verse out of context
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and you make up your
mind about what it saying.
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But then that
verse if you make up,
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if you conclude
that is out of harmony
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with any of the
rest of the word. Yeah.
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You must then denounce
so to speak that position,
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because it doesn't
fit with scripture.
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So if God was so
careful in putting together
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the canon of scripture.
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Why aren't we more
careful in putting together
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the truth of God's
word to make sure it
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harmonizes with
all the scripture,
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and we know, we
can pick any subject
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and talk about, anyone of them
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where of
course--Prophet Isaiah says,
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"Here a little, there a little,
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line upon line,
precept upon precept."
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You know very carefully
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gaining knowledge from the word
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and that is the
method of Bible study.
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Yeah, yeah! You
know it is so easy
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to rip things out of context
as this program being taped,
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the Olympics are on.
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And my wife and I was
sitting watching other night,
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I'll say, you
know, it really be cool
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to be wearing
those speed skates.
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Now I can claim Philippians say,
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I can do all
things through Christ.
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Well, I can be a ski free skate,
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I don't think so.
It's not going to fly.
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I am trying to get the image
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of C.A. going
around on speed skate.
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Let me add a little,
little tight pant, that uniform.
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It's not going
to fly, it just not.
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You know so there
is a context for that,
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you know, He is talking
about sacrificial things,
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things that
pertain unto salvation.
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Not just anything you
want that comes to your mind.
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So we--you know I don't say,
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there are five questions, John,
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before you make application
of text as who said it,
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what did it say,
what did it mean.
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Let, I give you to
make a statement like
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that guys out to
lunch, well, is he either gone
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from his desk at lunch or
he is kind of office rocker
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which is another, you
know, so what did it say,
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but also what did it mean.
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Then what did
those who hear him,
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what did they interpret from it.
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Then you can make application,
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and you've got always ask
at least those five questions
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before you can say
this is what the text means
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or this is how I apply it.
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So this does not mean Sabbath,
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it means something else
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and should not be
applied to Sabbath,
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because Sabbath
was not the intended
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burden of this
particular text, yeah.
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Yeah, very good.
Thank you, thank you.
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Here is a
questions, I'm gonna read
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actually a couple of them
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'cause they kind of go together,
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and we can go back and
forth here a little bit
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on this 'cause
this is a question
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that has been asked before,
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but it's been sometimes
since we've answered it.
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This question comes from Denise.
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Thank you, Denise.
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She says, I understand that
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there are three different views
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regarding the
second coming of our Lord.
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First, I understand
the time was shortened
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to five months and
because of the elect say,
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to save them
Matthew 24 expresses that,
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you know, the
shortening of the end of time.
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And there is, of course,
people who literally interpret
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five months prophetically
to try and arrive it
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at what time that would be.
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Second, some churches explain
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as this end time
period as seven years.
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Three and half for the system,
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the false system to be
set up three and half years
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for the ruler
ship of the antichrist.
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Third is the belief
that three and half years was
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Christ prophetic
time, three and half days,
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prophetic time
three and half years
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with this time
that Christ ruled on
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or came down in His first advent
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to teach His
disciples and to save the world
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and then, of course, the
last three and half years
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being, you know, post-cross
and that working out 234 A.D.
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which you've
heard teachers express,
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preachers here on
3ABN for a quite sometime,
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and so they apply that
to Christ for its advent,
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not the end of time.
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And she is
saying that, you know,
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all these different
views, you know, what is it.
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And then here is
a second question
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that comes in from someone else.
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Does a rapture take
place pre-trib or post-trib?
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So I'll throw that in there too,
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because what that
means is pre-tribulation,
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just Christ come
before the tribulation
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to take His
church or does He come
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after the tribulation, is
that an appearing of Christ,
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the second time to then
take us home to live with Him
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for the thousand year period.
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And so let's talk a
little bit about this
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because it seems to
be, there seems to be
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a lot of confusions
about this, you know.
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The first thing
he mentioned is this
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three and half year period
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if you turn to Daniel Chapter 9.
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You're gonna find the passage
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that is used here to
express this three and half year
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or actually a seven
year last week of prophecy.
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Let's see here.
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Well, I make sure I get
out of 7 and get over to
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I am supposed to be. Here we go.
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Okay, it says in
verse 23 of Daniel 9,
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"I have come to tell you."
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This is the angels
speaking to Daniel,
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"For you are greatly beloved,
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therefore consider the matter,
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and understand the vision."
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And this is the
vision of the 2300 days
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that was
previously given to Daniel
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in Chapter 8 verses 13 and 14.
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And then we have--it
seems like another time prophecy
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that goes on from
here which is known
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as the seventy-week prophecy.
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Seventy-weeks is
seventy time seven 490 years
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in prophetic time.
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And he talks about how
that prophetic time goes on here
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and it seems to
clearly pertain to,
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if you look in verse 24.
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"It pertains to Daniel's people
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who are the Jews" Correct.
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And so this is the
time that they have to
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that are set aside
determined, it says,
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"That are to
finish transgression
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making end of sins,
reconciliation for iniquity,
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bring in
everlasting righteousness,
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seal up the vision and prophecy,
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anoint the Most Holy."
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We can't miss those words,
we can't pass those quickly.
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Anoint Him the Most Holy is
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anointing Jesus
Christ for His work.
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And then he says that
this time period in verse 25,
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"Begins at the
command to restore
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and build Jerusalem
until, Messiah the Prince,
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takes up the
largest portion of this time
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which is seven
weeks and sixty two weeks
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which totaled sixty-nine. Right.
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Now, we're not
gonna spend all our time
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going in every detail of this
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but I just want to give you
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general recap of this teaching.
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And so from the
time of this command,
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restore and rebuilt Jerusalem
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which indicated in
Ezra Chapter 6 and 7.
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It indicates Artaxerxes has been
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involved in that commands.
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So you must take
his commands 457 B.C.
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Count forward then
to this time which means
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the Messiah would
need to arrive on the scene
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at the year A.D. 27.
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And we know clearly
from other scriptures
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that he, in fact
does, Luke 3 tells us
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in the--I believe
is the fifteen year,
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I don't want to misquote,
so look at it really fast.
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Luke Chapter 3, "Fifteenth year
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of the of the
reign of Tiberius Caesar"
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If you read on, it
says, "Jesus was Baptized
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or anointed for His work,
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precisely, by the Holy Spirit."
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And if you take a look
at Tiberius Caesar reign,
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although he took over
sole supremacy in 14 A.D.
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He actually co-ruled with
his brother in 12 A.D. Correct.
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So you can
forward 15 years, 27 A.D.
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fits perfectly right on time,
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Jesus came 483
years out of the 490
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right after it was to begin.
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Now I said, a lot there,
so you have to rewind the tape
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if you are taping.
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And so much of
that is, is accepted.
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When we go, we pick
up verse 26 in Daniel 9.
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You've got
threescore and two weeks
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and then you've got seven so.
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The sixty-nine
weeks is pretty much
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universally accepted.
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It's the last week
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where we run into
problems. There you go.
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Where there is sort of division.
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And I think that's where,
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her question actually
is coming from. Right.
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What do we do with
that last seven days.
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How do we adjust the
appose and the problem is
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that there are some theologians
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and they are into
manordect I dare say,
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who take that seven days
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and remove it that seven days,
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at last we can
remove it from the others
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and bring it way
down to the end of time,
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and that's where
we have the problem.
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Rather than putting in as
part of the seventy weeks,
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somehow they yank
that out of context
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and toss it way
down to the end of time
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and it confuses people,
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because it
doesn't really fit there,
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it's part of the
seventy-week period.
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Right, and its decree so-called
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a Gap Theory. A Gap Theory.
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You know, they take
the time at 483 years,
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cut it off, take that last seven
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and put it at the
end of time. Right.
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And they apply it
to, not Jesus Christ,
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but they apply it
to the antichrist.
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Yes, yeah, yeah.
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Now, I will say
that there is an enemy
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that is mentioned
here in this passage,
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but here we
talked about this here
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a few minutes
ago, Pastor Murray.
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Context,
context, context. Oh, yes.
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This is a Messianic prophecy.
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It is the
prophecy of the Messiah.
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He is appearing on
the scene and His work,
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what He is doing,
what He is establishing
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as part of His kingdom,
the beginning of His taking
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back of His
kingdom until He come,
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comes and gets the
saint of that time--
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And that's crucial, John,
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to the
understanding of this prophecy,
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this passage, it's
about the Messiah. Yes.
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Not about Satan, not
about the antichrist,
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not about end time,
but the inauguration
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of his Messiahship and the work
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that was going to be spread
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from the Jewish
community to the world.
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And pastor, as
you well know that,
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that understanding is
crucial to work in your way
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through this
particular prophecy.
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Absolutely. Yeah.
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So let's look at a
couple things here.
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If you look at verse
26, you've already mentioned
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about the sixty-two weeks
after though sixty-two weeks
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that's seven plus
sixty-two by the way.
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So this is in the-we
are now in the 483rd year
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after that it says,
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"The Messiah shall be cut
off, but not for Himself."
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So here we are
already in the last week
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and who is he
talking about? Messiah still.
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The Messiah being cut off,
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not about
antichrist, but the Messiah.
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So we got to be
staying with this Messiah
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mindset here as
we go through this.
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"And the people of
the prince who is to come
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shall destroy the
city and the sanctuary.
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The end of it
shall be with a flood,
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until the end of the war
desolations are determined."
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So it indicates here that
as the Messiah is cut off,
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there is also going to
be some kind of judgment
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from this prince that
comes to destroy the city
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and destroy the sanctuary.
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Well, we know that
happened in history,
00:19:53.94\00:19:56.53
back very much in this time.
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Going on verse 27, "Then
he shall confirm a covenant
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with many for one week"
00:20:04.18\00:20:06.45
Now there is the big
word with only two letters.
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Who is he? Who is he?
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Who is she?
00:20:13.85\00:20:16.22
And this is where
the diversions occurs,
00:20:16.23\00:20:20.09
precisely, between various
teachers of this prophecy.
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And as we've already
said, praise the Lord,
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hopefully we are
looking at the minority of them,
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but it is growing that he
applies to the antichrist,
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but here remember, who
is this prophecy about?
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It's a prophecy
about the Messiah,
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the anointed one.
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The he there
should be capitalized,
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because it pertains to Messiah.
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"He shall confirm a
covenant with many for one week.
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But in the middle of
the week He shall bring
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an end to
sacrifice and offering.
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And on the wing of abominations
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shall be one who makes desolate,
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Even until the consummation,
which is determined,
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is poured out on the desolate."
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So there is an enemy
that's opposing his work here
00:20:58.66\00:21:01.79
to confirm the covenant.
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Who would be the enemy
00:21:04.34\00:21:05.37
that would oppose
the work of Christ
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to confirm the covenant
00:21:06.84\00:21:08.13
that He promised to
Abraham way back when
00:21:08.14\00:21:11.28
who would be the enemy?
00:21:11.29\00:21:12.76
None other, but
Satan himself and his army,
00:21:12.77\00:21:16.71
whoever he chooses
to do his work. Yeah.
00:21:16.72\00:21:19.39
And so, and the
other thing here too,
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who will bring an end
to sacrifice and offering.
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You know, it's funny,
how we--the Bible puts
00:21:25.20\00:21:30.55
so many he's,
you've got to kind of
00:21:30.56\00:21:32.21
keep your he straight, so
reckon you went through this.
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But up into this point
he is talking about Jesus
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that confirm the
covenant talking about Jesus.
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Causing and
sacrifices simply is an illusion
00:21:40.84\00:21:44.17
to the death of Christ
which once that happen,
00:21:44.18\00:21:47.81
the daily sacrificial
system was not effect anymore.
00:21:47.82\00:21:51.28
It wasn't any good.
00:21:51.29\00:21:52.76
Once Christ made
that ultimate sacrifice
00:21:52.77\00:21:54.76
which is the burden
of the Book of Hebrews
00:21:54.77\00:21:57.44
almost totally, at
least of the first third
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that we have a better sacrifice.
00:21:59.69\00:22:01.80
We have a truer sacrifice,
a more complete sacrifice
00:22:01.81\00:22:04.80
when Christ
gave His life for us.
00:22:04.81\00:22:07.27
The sacrificial
system came to its end.
00:22:07.28\00:22:09.72
Now who would
oppose that, of course,
00:22:09.73\00:22:10.99
that would be the
enemy, that would be the Satan.
00:22:11.00\00:22:13.32
But it's work in
your way through the he's,
00:22:13.33\00:22:16.70
you know, that sort of keeps
you on track with this thing.
00:22:16.71\00:22:18.72
Yeah, very much so.
00:22:18.73\00:22:20.55
And so He brings, it says,
00:22:20.56\00:22:22.97
this end to
sacrifice and offering,
00:22:22.98\00:22:25.33
and some now would say, okay,
00:22:25.34\00:22:26.61
this is the antichrist
which they believe it is.
00:22:26.62\00:22:29.01
This is the antichrist
somehow in the Middle East
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or even in the holy land
ceasing or putting at end
00:22:32.90\00:22:36.81
to any sacrifices
that are being made there,
00:22:36.82\00:22:38.86
so they believe, okay.
00:22:38.87\00:22:39.84
Then at some point
here the Jewish system
00:22:39.85\00:22:41.87
is going to reinitiate
or is going to initiate
00:22:41.88\00:22:44.75
it's sacrificial system again.
00:22:44.76\00:22:46.70
And the
antichrist will oppose that
00:22:46.71\00:22:48.35
bring and end to it.
00:22:48.36\00:22:49.64
That's not what it
is saying. Not at all.
00:22:49.65\00:22:52.09
The symbol there that
we find, it's not a symbol,
00:22:52.10\00:22:54.69
it's a literal act how God
tore in the-through the veil,
00:22:54.70\00:23:01.75
between the most
holy and the holy place.
00:23:01.76\00:23:04.45
He tore it from
not bottom to top,
00:23:04.46\00:23:06.48
but top to bottom showing that,
00:23:06.49\00:23:09.15
that sacrificial
system had ended.
00:23:09.16\00:23:11.99
And from what
we understand here,
00:23:12.00\00:23:13.90
I know, it doesn't say
so much from scripture,
00:23:13.91\00:23:16.15
but legend tells us
that the lamb got away.
00:23:16.16\00:23:20.51
Because that lamb could
no longer be sacrifice here
00:23:20.52\00:23:23.04
because Christ was
the lamb being sacrificed.
00:23:23.05\00:23:26.01
And so this is what this
prophecy is talking about
00:23:26.02\00:23:28.74
and so be careful I
would say with anybody
00:23:28.75\00:23:30.66
that takes the seven
years pertaining to Christ
00:23:30.67\00:23:33.69
and puts them at the end of time
00:23:33.70\00:23:35.65
pertaining to the antichrist,
00:23:35.66\00:23:36.96
because what in effect
they are doing pastor is,
00:23:36.97\00:23:39.99
they are substituting
Christ for the antichrist.
00:23:40.00\00:23:46.15
They are
fulfilling what the antichrist
00:23:46.16\00:23:48.03
wants to do anyway.
00:23:48.04\00:23:49.14
He wants to assume
the work of Christ.
00:23:49.15\00:23:51.41
They are helping him do it
00:23:51.42\00:23:52.88
by saying this pertains to
00:23:52.89\00:23:54.93
not Christ but the antichrist
00:23:54.94\00:23:56.15
Yeah, when you lead in
your very first scripture,
00:23:56.16\00:24:00.54
seventy-weeks are determined.
00:24:00.55\00:24:01.90
We are talking
about a block of time
00:24:01.91\00:24:04.26
that is not to be segmented
and sort of moved around
00:24:04.27\00:24:07.17
like chess pieces on the board.
00:24:07.18\00:24:08.65
You're dealing
with a block of time
00:24:08.66\00:24:10.26
and all of this is
going to take place
00:24:10.27\00:24:11.82
within this block of time.
00:24:11.83\00:24:13.31
It's just showing you
the difference segments
00:24:13.32\00:24:15.23
of the block of
time but it's a package,
00:24:15.24\00:24:17.72
it's a package deal.
00:24:17.73\00:24:18.93
So that when
you get to verse 27,
00:24:18.94\00:24:21.08
it all is part of what starts
off in verse 24. Yeah, yeah.
00:24:21.09\00:24:24.74
And here is another way
we know that this cannot be
00:24:24.75\00:24:26.88
taken from--the seven
years can't be taken from there
00:24:26.89\00:24:29.97
and put at the end of time.
00:24:29.98\00:24:30.97
Here is the way we know,
because this 490 year period
00:24:30.98\00:24:33.92
is part of the 2300 days or
years of prophecy. Yes, yes.
00:24:33.93\00:24:38.80
It's the beginning of
it marks the larger time
00:24:38.81\00:24:41.49
period of 2300 years
and if you--so that means
00:24:41.50\00:24:45.55
the 490 has to encompass or
be encompass within the 2300.
00:24:45.56\00:24:50.39
Right, you can't take
in tack around to back end.
00:24:50.40\00:24:52.20
And if you tack it on the end
00:24:52.21\00:24:53.22
you just completely obliterated
00:24:53.23\00:24:55.07
proper hermeneutics per say,
prophetic hermeneutics here.
00:24:55.08\00:24:58.37
Very true. And it
just does not work.
00:24:58.38\00:25:00.09
So now to answer the
question that was asked
00:25:00.10\00:25:03.92
and we got there over
the long way, didn't we?
00:25:03.93\00:25:06.53
To answer this question,
is there three and half years,
00:25:06.54\00:25:10.46
and three and half
years at the end of time
00:25:10.47\00:25:11.91
we have to say no. No.
00:25:11.92\00:25:13.52
There clearly is no seven
year period of tribulation,
00:25:13.53\00:25:16.97
three and half years
the start of the antichrist,
00:25:16.98\00:25:19.29
then manifesting himself
00:25:19.30\00:25:20.45
in three and half
years of tyranny per say.
00:25:20.46\00:25:23.85
What we have to say
here is that the scripture
00:25:23.86\00:25:25.89
seems very clear
that Christ comes,
00:25:25.90\00:25:27.88
Jesus comes visibly, audibly,
00:25:27.89\00:25:31.58
every one will know it
and He will take His church
00:25:31.59\00:25:35.24
at that point and
the resurrected saints
00:25:35.25\00:25:37.14
and living
saints at the same time
00:25:37.15\00:25:39.43
to His heavenly kingdom
to live and reign with Him
00:25:39.44\00:25:41.75
for a thousand years,
Revelation Chapter 20. Yeah.
00:25:41.76\00:25:44.70
And there is before
that time, a tribulation.
00:25:44.71\00:25:49.45
So one answer to
one of the question is,
00:25:49.46\00:25:52.67
Christ, the
rapture of the church.
00:25:52.68\00:25:54.77
And I use rapture not
in the secret rapture term.
00:25:54.78\00:25:57.08
I see rapture in the
catching up of the saints, yes,
00:25:57.09\00:25:59.51
to meet the Lord
in the air occurs
00:25:59.52\00:26:01.97
after the tribulation,
it's post-tribulation, not pre.
00:26:01.98\00:26:05.85
There is no
evidence of pre-tribulation
00:26:05.86\00:26:07.42
that I can find, although
that many of that espouses
00:26:07.43\00:26:10.55
other thing we were
just talking about do.
00:26:10.56\00:26:13.90
But it's post-tribulation,
00:26:13.91\00:26:15.81
the church will go
through that period of time,
00:26:15.82\00:26:18.06
and the Christ
will deliver His church.
00:26:18.07\00:26:19.74
And I don't think
there is any evidence,
00:26:19.75\00:26:21.46
pastor, that
throughout scripture
00:26:21.47\00:26:23.66
that the church
doesn't experience hard times
00:26:23.67\00:26:25.85
at the end. No, no, no.
00:26:25.86\00:26:28.01
You know, Daniel
as a prophetic book
00:26:28.02\00:26:30.29
is-prophecy take some
work, but it's not that tough
00:26:30.33\00:26:35.63
if you allow the
Bible to explain itself.
00:26:35.64\00:26:39.45
If you allow the
Bible to open itself for you
00:26:39.46\00:26:44.28
and not make assumptions.
00:26:44.29\00:26:45.66
When you sort of put
in these kinds of things,
00:26:45.67\00:26:47.78
that's why this
person is confused,
00:26:47.79\00:26:49.14
because they have been
listening to some theology
00:26:49.15\00:26:51.14
that has really
twisted this particular text.
00:26:51.15\00:26:54.44
But if you
follow step after step,
00:26:54.45\00:26:56.47
you will find
particularly the Book of Daniel.
00:26:56.48\00:26:58.39
Revelation is more
of a challenge, yeah,
00:26:58.40\00:27:00.35
but Daniel will
explain himself very logically
00:27:00.36\00:27:04.13
and very sequentially.
00:27:04.14\00:27:06.26
It becomes
non-secular when you take things
00:27:06.27\00:27:08.90
and move things around
and sort of twist things up.
00:27:08.91\00:27:11.06
But if you follow the Bible
00:27:11.07\00:27:12.18
as it's opening itself to you,
00:27:12.19\00:27:13.80
you will find that
Daniel particularly
00:27:13.81\00:27:15.76
opens this stuff very nicely
and does a really nice job
00:27:15.77\00:27:18.70
of walking you
through what Daniel,
00:27:18.71\00:27:20.88
and the angle is trying
to show you. Yeah, yeah.
00:27:20.89\00:27:22.93
The last thing I may say
on this too is that the reason
00:27:22.94\00:27:25.16
why this 2300 years,
490 years gets a "bad rap"
00:27:25.17\00:27:31.03
it's because it's
identified during this great
00:27:31.04\00:27:33.07
awakening period of
the mid-nineteen century,
00:27:33.08\00:27:35.57
the eighteen hundreds.
00:27:35.58\00:27:36.97
As people were being
converted and changed
00:27:36.98\00:27:40.69
by the power of this message
00:27:40.70\00:27:42.82
how, when Christ
did not return in 1844.
00:27:42.83\00:27:47.44
They didn't just,
they threw out everything
00:27:47.45\00:27:51.59
with regard to that prophecy,
00:27:51.60\00:27:52.90
not just the misinterpretation
00:27:52.91\00:27:54.55
of what the
fulfillment was. Yes.
00:27:54.56\00:27:56.77
The fulfillment
was misinterpreted.
00:27:56.78\00:27:59.24
They believe that the
cleansing of the sanctuary
00:27:59.25\00:28:01.08
was the return of
Jesus Christ to the earth,
00:28:01.09\00:28:03.38
the sanctuary was the earth.
00:28:03.39\00:28:05.21
And because He
didn't come, they said,
00:28:05.22\00:28:06.88
O all these numbers and things,
00:28:06.89\00:28:08.85
no they are misinterpreted,
let's throw it out.
00:28:08.86\00:28:11.27
We've got it wrong.
00:28:11.28\00:28:12.57
But they had it very right,
00:28:12.58\00:28:14.49
but the event it
pointed to was very wrong. Yeah.
00:28:14.50\00:28:17.79
And that event, the
cleansing of the sanctuary
00:28:17.80\00:28:19.51
had more to do with
Christ high priestly ministry
00:28:19.52\00:28:22.89
in the heavenly
sanctuary. Precisely.
00:28:22.90\00:28:25.02
Not Christ returning
to an earthly sanctuary.
00:28:25.03\00:28:28.01
And if you want to understand
that little bit better,
00:28:28.02\00:28:29.81
just read
Hebrews 7, 8, 9, and 10,
00:28:29.82\00:28:33.67
and you're gonna find,
it replete with language
00:28:33.68\00:28:36.57
on Christ, the high
priest, the heavenly sanctuary,
00:28:36.58\00:28:39.65
not the one in the earth,
00:28:39.66\00:28:40.66
the one on the earth was a copy
00:28:40.67\00:28:41.85
of the heavenly. Precisely.
00:28:41.86\00:28:43.53
That's what this
prophecy is pointing to,
00:28:43.54\00:28:46.33
and to miss that is
a incredible disservice
00:28:46.34\00:28:48.95
to theology in general. Yes.
00:28:48.96\00:28:50.99
As it's the bases
of our understanding
00:28:51.00\00:28:52.42
of the plan of salvation.
00:28:52.43\00:28:53.63
I love answering this
question,I don't know,
00:28:53.64\00:28:55.22
we've got to get to
our bottom of our show,
00:28:55.23\00:28:57.10
but answering
question is so important so far
00:28:57.30\00:28:59.74
because that's where
the people are. Yeah.
00:28:59.75\00:29:02.05
All of this really, when
you attack and I use that term
00:29:02.06\00:29:04.99
attack Daniel 9,
Daniel Chapter 9.
00:29:05.00\00:29:07.07
You really got to do 8 and 9,
00:29:07.08\00:29:09.61
and you've got to pick
up 8:14 which introduces
00:29:09.62\00:29:11.98
2300 days and then
you work your way through.
00:29:11.99\00:29:16.04
Daniel needs to be studied,
00:29:16.05\00:29:17.28
studied as a whole to try
to just pull something out
00:29:17.29\00:29:20.76
and say this is it.
00:29:20.77\00:29:21.92
You really got
to look at context
00:29:21.93\00:29:23.35
when you look into Daniel.
00:29:23.36\00:29:24.40
So Daniel, the
burden of Daniel 9,
00:29:24.41\00:29:27.02
really begins in Daniel
8 and to a lesser extent,
00:29:27.03\00:29:30.45
but also Daniel 7.
00:29:30.46\00:29:32.46
So you can't really
have one without the other.
00:29:32.47\00:29:35.80
Yeah, and I like the
point you are making there,
00:29:35.81\00:29:37.29
because most don't
realize that this vision
00:29:37.30\00:29:39.72
that Daniel received
and the interpretation of
00:29:39.73\00:29:41.69
it was one vision. Precisely.
00:29:41.70\00:29:44.15
The 2300 days or
years, prophetic days
00:29:44.16\00:29:48.28
was a single
vision given to Daniel
00:29:48.29\00:29:50.67
about the end of time.
00:29:50.68\00:29:52.17
So even when the angel
comes back in 9 to explain it,
00:29:52.18\00:29:55.40
he is talking
about the original vision
00:29:55.41\00:29:57.75
of the 2300 years. Yes.
00:29:57.76\00:29:59.44
People don't
realize that either,
00:29:59.45\00:30:00.68
they think it's a
totally different prophecy.
00:30:00.69\00:30:02.43
But this is the same one
that's why Daniel is so key
00:30:02.44\00:30:05.56
and so important in our
understanding of prophecy.
00:30:05.57\00:30:08.00
Precisely,
yeah. Praise the Lord.
00:30:08.01\00:30:09.54
Bible study is so exciting.
00:30:09.55\00:30:10.83
Really quick, Elaine writes,
00:30:12.12\00:30:13.93
she is--could you help
me understand necessity
00:30:15.98\00:30:20.55
of attending
church wherever possible
00:30:20.56\00:30:23.38
I realize the sickness isolation
00:30:23.39\00:30:25.19
those kinds of
things, may not be able to
00:30:25.20\00:30:29.06
attend She is talking
about Hebrew, of course, 10:25.
00:30:29.07\00:30:32.55
Some believe camping
out with unbelievers,
00:30:34.25\00:30:36.39
attending
birthday parties et cetera,
00:30:36.40\00:30:38.37
fall under the idea
of doing good on Sabbath.
00:30:38.38\00:30:42.49
You know, it's lawful
to do good on Sabbath,
00:30:42.50\00:30:43.72
Christ said in
Matthew Chapter 12.
00:30:43.73\00:30:46.42
Can you help me with this
00:30:46.43\00:30:47.91
to gain some
balance in this manner?
00:30:47.92\00:30:50.54
Obviously she is
dealing with some people
00:30:50.55\00:30:53.15
whose definition of
that which is acceptable
00:30:53.16\00:30:55.82
on Sabbath is very broad. Right.
00:30:55.83\00:30:57.82
You can go to birthday party,
00:31:00.74\00:31:01.83
you can be with
friends, you can camp out,
00:31:01.84\00:31:03.66
you can do all
kinds of things on Sabbath
00:31:03.67\00:31:05.31
in lieu of attending church
00:31:05.32\00:31:07.76
and all these kinds of
stuff is acceptable too.
00:31:07.77\00:31:09.50
And I guess they are hitting her
00:31:11.10\00:31:12.25
with Matthew Chapter 12,
00:31:12.26\00:31:15.05
and I'm going to try
to get that real fast.
00:31:15.06\00:31:16.85
And they are saying it's
lawful to do good on Sabbath
00:31:19.98\00:31:21.80
and these things are good.
00:31:21.81\00:31:22.78
So I guess that the crux is,
00:31:24.05\00:31:26.32
pastor, the definition of good.
00:31:26.33\00:31:28.70
Well, the definition
again comes on the context
00:31:28.71\00:31:32.36
of the chapter
that we're dealing with
00:31:32.37\00:31:35.26
in Matthew Chapter 12.
00:31:35.27\00:31:37.41
They are accosting
Christ for a couple of things:
00:31:37.42\00:31:39.07
One, His disciples
went to through a field,
00:31:39.08\00:31:43.44
plucks a maize of
corn and ate the raw corn.
00:31:43.45\00:31:45.66
The second thing was a healing
00:31:47.11\00:31:49.87
that He did on the Sabbath
00:31:49.88\00:31:51.38
and, of course
they-- I'll use the term
00:31:51.39\00:31:53.35
modern palace got on
his case about the healing.
00:31:53.36\00:31:57.37
And, of course, his answer was,
00:31:57.38\00:31:58.35
it's lawful to do
good on the Sabbath.
00:31:58.36\00:31:59.97
Well, again look,
rest of the context because
00:31:59.98\00:32:01.99
Christ says, hey, if
your sheep falls in a ditch,
00:32:02.00\00:32:05.54
your ox falls in the ditch.
00:32:05.55\00:32:06.97
You are not going to
leave him there saying
00:32:06.98\00:32:08.22
it's Sabbath, can't help
that poor dumb animal out.
00:32:08.23\00:32:11.70
You go and you
get the animal out.
00:32:11.71\00:32:13.86
And so I healed.
00:32:15.25\00:32:16.36
It's lawful to do
good on the Sabbath.
00:32:16.37\00:32:18.53
Well, what's the
context for good?
00:32:18.54\00:32:20.07
Good is lifting the burdens
and life lightening the load
00:32:20.08\00:32:23.78
of fellow human beings.
00:32:23.79\00:32:25.31
I don't think,
going to a birthday party,
00:32:25.32\00:32:26.95
falls in that category.
00:32:26.96\00:32:28.08
Yeah. I really don't.
00:32:28.09\00:32:29.87
I remember one
Sabbath, on the Friday night,
00:32:29.88\00:32:31.96
my first elder's house burned,
00:32:31.97\00:32:34.87
almost burned to the ground.
00:32:34.88\00:32:36.39
And so we
cancelled church service,
00:32:36.40\00:32:39.19
went home, changed our clothes,
00:32:40.46\00:32:42.79
cooked some food,
and help him dig out,
00:32:42.80\00:32:45.96
you know, Sabbath afternoon.
00:32:45.97\00:32:46.94
Help him recover what he could,
00:32:48.29\00:32:50.20
and I and we prayed and
we sang and neighbors came
00:32:50.21\00:32:52.67
and they saw that,
and were very impressed.
00:32:52.68\00:32:56.11
I think that was an
acceptable Sabbath activity,
00:32:56.12\00:32:59.43
because it was an
emergency situation.
00:32:59.44\00:33:01.65
We were helping lift the load
00:33:01.66\00:33:03.79
of someone who
was really in trouble.
00:33:03.80\00:33:05.60
You know, that's acceptable.
00:33:05.61\00:33:07.06
Going to a birthday party
00:33:07.07\00:33:08.31
doesn't fall in
the category for me.
00:33:08.32\00:33:09.82
You know, when I
was a young Christian,
00:33:09.83\00:33:12.29
really trying to
find out what does it
00:33:12.30\00:33:14.07
mean to observe the Sabbath.
00:33:14.08\00:33:15.18
What activities
can I and cannot do,
00:33:15.19\00:33:17.96
and you know, you are fallen
00:33:17.97\00:33:18.94
to this trap of do's
and don'ts, I want the list.
00:33:18.95\00:33:21.05
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Makes it is.
00:33:21.06\00:33:22.87
Just give me list. And
there really is no list.
00:33:22.88\00:33:25.97
Then you have to,
you have to come up with
00:33:25.98\00:33:27.97
you got to
experiment a bit, if I say.
00:33:29.30\00:33:31.64
Experiment a bit
as far as observing
00:33:31.65\00:33:34.49
personal observing of
the Sabbath of the holy day.
00:33:34.50\00:33:37.96
And I remember for time there
00:33:37.97\00:33:39.95
at the very
beginning, one of the activities
00:33:39.96\00:33:41.28
that I chose to try to do.
00:33:41.29\00:33:42.64
I say, do you know what?
00:33:42.65\00:33:44.04
My friends are
asking me, it's a weekend.
00:33:44.05\00:33:46.53
There is a basketball
tournament down at the beach.
00:33:46.54\00:33:49.57
And I'm gonna go with my friends
00:33:49.58\00:33:50.91
and play on this
three on three tournament
00:33:50.92\00:33:53.03
and you know, its not anything
00:33:53.04\00:33:55.08
that's overtly
wrong but, you know,
00:33:55.09\00:33:57.89
what I can witness to
my friends little bit,
00:33:57.90\00:33:59.45
or be in conversion the car,
00:33:59.46\00:34:01.62
I'll get down there, all have,
00:34:01.63\00:34:03.10
good
sportsmanship and you know what,
00:34:03.11\00:34:05.22
I did it that day.
00:34:05.23\00:34:07.49
And afterward I felt
guilty, and here is why?
00:34:07.50\00:34:11.88
Because I didn't
spend time with the Lord
00:34:11.89\00:34:14.20
like I thought I was going to.
00:34:14.21\00:34:16.60
I didn't witness as I
thought I was going to.
00:34:16.61\00:34:19.24
I got cut off in the competition
00:34:19.25\00:34:21.75
of the whole thing, and
I really found out that,
00:34:21.76\00:34:24.44
that activity was not
conducive to my relationship,
00:34:24.45\00:34:27.49
improving my
relationship with Jesus.
00:34:27.50\00:34:29.86
And so I asked
myself all the time now days
00:34:30.91\00:34:33.11
whenever it comes to an event.
00:34:33.12\00:34:35.55
Can this activity
help me in furthering
00:34:35.56\00:34:38.59
my relationship with Jesus,
00:34:38.60\00:34:40.57
and sharing and help the others,
00:34:40.58\00:34:42.70
improve their
relationship with Christ,
00:34:42.71\00:34:44.32
lifting burden would
be one of those things.
00:34:44.33\00:34:46.21
And if I cannot, if I cannot
00:34:47.30\00:34:48.82
do this activity
with Jesus, I excluded.
00:34:48.83\00:34:50.93
And it's fairly become,
00:34:52.26\00:34:53.32
fairly simple for
me these things now.
00:34:53.33\00:34:55.65
And so I would say anybody
who is looking for the list,
00:34:55.66\00:34:58.95
if you have any
question about it
00:35:00.41\00:35:01.77
and you decide to do
something, if you are
00:35:01.78\00:35:03.64
finding uncomfortableness
in what you did.
00:35:03.65\00:35:06.46
God doesn't condemn you for that
00:35:06.47\00:35:07.92
but He is
saying learn from that.
00:35:07.93\00:35:10.37
And then take it off your list,
00:35:10.38\00:35:11.87
if you want a
list and move forward
00:35:11.88\00:35:14.69
and do things that are much more
00:35:14.70\00:35:16.63
conducive to your relationship.
00:35:16.64\00:35:18.39
Much more better
than the a list is to
00:35:18.40\00:35:21.57
develop a working
relationship with Christ
00:35:21.58\00:35:23.85
because that will-- it's
really a case-by-case basis
00:35:23.86\00:35:27.88
but it's
informed by your love of
00:35:27.89\00:35:30.29
and your work with Jesus.
00:35:30.30\00:35:31.95
There are some
things, that perhaps
00:35:31.96\00:35:34.66
now as a pastor of the church
00:35:34.67\00:35:36.25
who has grown in the
Lord that maybe when you
00:35:36.26\00:35:38.68
first came in and you
said, that's not so bad,
00:35:38.69\00:35:40.51
including what you just did.
00:35:40.52\00:35:41.79
Now that's not even a question
00:35:41.80\00:35:43.90
because your
relationship with God
00:35:43.91\00:35:45.59
informs what you're gonna do,
00:35:45.60\00:35:47.82
and there is this
kind of impression,
00:35:47.83\00:35:50.25
it's called discernment,
as you walk with the Lord,
00:35:50.26\00:35:53.29
as you hear
something the spirit is saying,
00:35:53.30\00:35:55.40
you know, not going to fly.
00:35:56.67\00:35:58.40
No way you can massage
it, no way you can spin it,
00:35:58.41\00:36:00.73
that's not a
correct Sabbath activity.
00:36:00.74\00:36:02.66
And the closer you
walk with the Lord,
00:36:02.67\00:36:05.18
the louder that becomes.
00:36:05.19\00:36:06.79
If you put on your
shorts and sneaker now
00:36:06.80\00:36:09.21
on the Sabbath morning.
00:36:09.22\00:36:10.56
You couldn't even
get out of the door,
00:36:10.57\00:36:12.25
you know, you just couldn't
00:36:12.26\00:36:13.32
because the spirit
will be hitting you
00:36:13.33\00:36:14.64
so hard because you
know, that's not acceptable.
00:36:14.65\00:36:17.87
And one of the
things that she alluded to,
00:36:17.88\00:36:19.86
that's why the Lord says
'Forsake not the assembling
00:36:19.87\00:36:21.76
of yourselves together."
00:36:21.77\00:36:22.74
There is accountability
factor and, of course,
00:36:22.75\00:36:25.11
if you are in
church on Sabbath day,
00:36:25.12\00:36:26.99
no question that's
the right thing to do
00:36:27.00\00:36:28.22
because the Bible
asked you to do that.
00:36:28.23\00:36:30.69
Once you start skipping
church for whatever reason
00:36:30.70\00:36:32.58
you really need to question,
00:36:32.59\00:36:34.86
why you are doing it
and does that activity
00:36:34.87\00:36:36.97
bring you closer to God,
00:36:36.98\00:36:38.06
give you better
knowledge of God,
00:36:38.07\00:36:39.61
increase your
walk with the Lord.
00:36:39.62\00:36:40.93
Yeah, amen.
00:36:40.94\00:36:42.00
In fact, Isaiah
58 mentions about
00:36:43.06\00:36:46.01
keep from doing your
own pleasure on my holy day.
00:36:47.21\00:36:50.92
You know, it's
something I want so badly
00:36:50.93\00:36:52.69
or is it something
that the Lord will want,
00:36:52.70\00:36:54.43
He will be with me.
00:36:54.44\00:36:55.86
Thank you very much
for your questions again.
00:36:55.87\00:36:57.62
Please send the questions
into housecalls@3abn.org
00:36:57.63\00:37:01.57
that's our email
address set up specifically
00:37:01.58\00:37:03.96
for this questions
housecalls@3abn.org.
00:37:03.97\00:37:07.31
or send mail
directly to us at 3ABN
00:37:07.32\00:37:11.48
or the other option
would be call the call centre
00:37:11.49\00:37:13.18
and I know they take some
of those questions as well.
00:37:13.19\00:37:15.02
So thank you very
much for sending those in.
00:37:15.03\00:37:18.01
Pastor Murray, we
have a topic that is
00:37:18.02\00:37:22.19
we could really dive deeply into
00:37:22.20\00:37:24.09
and this is the topic involving
00:37:24.10\00:37:25.78
the titles that
Jesus had mostly walk,
00:37:26.81\00:37:29.43
He was here of Savior and Lord.
00:37:29.44\00:37:33.23
What do those things
mean, are they are the same?
00:37:33.24\00:37:35.98
Does we hear frequently,
someone will say, well,
00:37:35.99\00:37:38.02
Jesus is my Lord and my Savior.
00:37:38.03\00:37:40.15
And it's almost
as if it just kind of
00:37:40.16\00:37:41.93
that's the whole title together.
00:37:41.94\00:37:45.00
But what we want to do is
00:37:45.01\00:37:46.21
differentiate a little bit here
00:37:46.22\00:37:47.84
for a while, what
those titles mean.
00:37:47.85\00:37:51.23
And then, of
course, maybe if the program
00:37:51.24\00:37:53.82
goes to a second program,
00:37:53.83\00:37:55.10
we can talk a
little bit more about
00:37:55.11\00:37:56.40
what it means to
make Him our Lord
00:37:56.41\00:37:59.69
because that's really
where we want to go here.
00:37:59.70\00:38:02.31
Jesus is mostly
known for being our Savior,
00:38:02.32\00:38:04.85
the Savior of the world.
00:38:04.86\00:38:05.83
In fact, we'll
start off with one text
00:38:05.84\00:38:07.47
from Matthew Chapter 1.
00:38:07.48\00:38:08.81
Matthew Chapter 1
verse, I think its 21, yeah 21,
00:38:11.42\00:38:16.28
speaking of, it's
a prophetic verse.
00:38:18.10\00:38:21.81
"She will bring forth a Son,
00:38:21.82\00:38:23.90
and you shall
call His name Jesus."
00:38:24.95\00:38:27.12
Speaking of Mary.
Bringing forth Jesus.
00:38:27.13\00:38:30.82
"For He will save His
people from their sins."
00:38:30.83\00:38:34.94
There we find in essence,
the essence or the meaning
00:38:34.95\00:38:39.14
of Jesus being our Savior.
00:38:39.15\00:38:41.06
He will save us from our sins.
00:38:41.07\00:38:43.20
He will take the
penalty that is meant for us.
00:38:43.21\00:38:46.06
He will bare that on the cross.
00:38:46.07\00:38:47.73
He will bare our
sins, and He will save us
00:38:47.74\00:38:50.52
rather than allow us
to go to destruction.
00:38:50.53\00:38:53.27
That is the essence
of the meaning of Savior.
00:38:53.28\00:38:55.55
Yeah, you know,
Jesus is Savior, John,
00:38:55.56\00:38:58.19
because of His volitional act.
00:38:58.20\00:39:00.57
It really has
nothing to do with us.
00:39:00.58\00:39:03.17
Yeah. The Savior part is His.
00:39:03.18\00:39:05.47
We're gonna talk
about the Lord in a minute,
00:39:05.48\00:39:06.99
but He is the
Savior of the world.
00:39:07.00\00:39:08.88
When He went to the cross,
00:39:08.89\00:39:10.14
He became de facto
Savior of the world.
00:39:10.15\00:39:13.32
Now whether we
accept it or apply it,
00:39:13.33\00:39:15.27
that's the next part,
00:39:15.28\00:39:17.37
but He is the
Savior of the world.
00:39:17.38\00:39:20.29
No man cometh to
the father but by me.
00:39:20.30\00:39:22.58
He said, He is Savior.
00:39:22.59\00:39:24.99
Whether you accept it
or not, that's on you.
00:39:26.68\00:39:28.78
Yeah. But He is our Savior.
00:39:28.79\00:39:30.98
No one else has done
that, no one else could do it,
00:39:30.99\00:39:33.01
no one else will ever do it.
00:39:33.02\00:39:34.43
His sacrifice
was sufficient once
00:39:34.44\00:39:36.84
and for all
time again the burden
00:39:36.85\00:39:38.15
of the Book of
Hebrews, He is undoubtly,
00:39:38.16\00:39:41.08
unquestionably
Savior of the world.
00:39:41.09\00:39:44.25
You know, you put
that much better than I.
00:39:44.26\00:39:46.42
I actually have some of my
sermon that I gave recently
00:39:46.43\00:39:49.50
on the Sabbath,
it kind of helps,
00:39:49.51\00:39:50.81
pull some thought together,
00:39:50.82\00:39:51.79
but I did not
share that aspect in it,
00:39:51.80\00:39:54.25
but I like the way
you are putting that
00:39:54.26\00:39:55.56
because there is no ifs, ands,
00:39:55.57\00:39:57.77
buts about it, He is the Savior.
00:39:57.78\00:39:59.25
He is the Savior,
right. That's Him.
00:39:59.26\00:40:00.90
I mean, whether
I accept it or not.
00:40:00.91\00:40:03.31
And that's key
because that's not the same
00:40:03.32\00:40:07.13
with the title Lord. Precisely.
00:40:07.14\00:40:09.59
Not at all. No.
00:40:09.60\00:40:10.87
He is not everybody's Lord,
00:40:10.88\00:40:12.41
but He is everybody's Savior.
00:40:12.42\00:40:13.62
Yeah, just like, He
is everybody's creator.
00:40:13.63\00:40:16.78
No one else did it without Him.
00:40:16.79\00:40:18.53
Colossians says, "Was not
anything made that was made."
00:40:19.77\00:40:22.46
Whether you accept it or not,
00:40:22.74\00:40:23.71
whether you like it or
not, whether you're scientist
00:40:23.72\00:40:25.18
who believes it or not,
that doesn't change the fact.
00:40:25.19\00:40:27.51
He is the
creator, and He is Savior.
00:40:27.52\00:40:29.97
Can't unalterable,
unchangeable, irresistible,
00:40:29.98\00:40:33.95
He is it, yeah. Yeah. I like it.
00:40:33.96\00:40:35.83
You know, and
here is another aspect,
00:40:35.84\00:40:37.56
that's the de facto part.
00:40:37.57\00:40:38.90
You can say, I
like that word even.
00:40:38.91\00:40:41.20
But as we re-transition
now to those who apply
00:40:41.21\00:40:43.88
who accept Him as their Savior.
00:40:44.95\00:40:47.68
Now staying on the subject
of Savior here for moment.
00:40:47.69\00:40:50.38
To accept Him as their Savior,
00:40:50.39\00:40:52.31
we can save then that,
that fact has now been applied
00:40:52.32\00:40:55.65
to them for a
benefit, receiving the benefit
00:40:55.66\00:40:57.93
of salvation through
our Savior Jesus Christ,
00:40:57.94\00:41:02.37
and what He has done for Him.
00:41:02.38\00:41:04.09
And I mentioned that
because there is a tie here
00:41:04.10\00:41:06.80
that we cannot
dismiss to justification.
00:41:06.81\00:41:09.65
We talk about
sanctification and Lord
00:41:11.75\00:41:13.75
here in just a minute,
but there is a tie here
00:41:13.76\00:41:15.65
to justification and
Christ being our Savior,
00:41:15.66\00:41:19.23
and let's march
through that a little bit,
00:41:19.24\00:41:20.86
because this
justification is a big word
00:41:20.87\00:41:23.60
and so may struggled with
it, but what does that mean?
00:41:23.61\00:41:26.74
Yeah, you know, it's funny.
00:41:26.75\00:41:29.08
And my mind goes back to this,
00:41:29.09\00:41:30.47
years ago when I
first came out of school,
00:41:30.48\00:41:33.04
I had a--you know, when
you first graduate from school,
00:41:33.05\00:41:36.06
the credit card
companies jump on you
00:41:36.07\00:41:38.13
to give you this credit cards.
00:41:38.14\00:41:39.26
I was so afraid of
getting credit card there.
00:41:39.27\00:41:42.10
I wouldn't use the
card, you know, I just had it.
00:41:42.11\00:41:45.39
There was an account open
for me that I wouldn't use,
00:41:45.40\00:41:48.74
you know, there was
the-- I had credit but I was--
00:41:48.75\00:41:50.81
I wouldn't avail myself.
00:41:50.82\00:41:52.76
And I think about
that with Christ as Savior
00:41:53.82\00:41:55.81
and justification experience.
00:41:55.82\00:41:58.47
Once we come to Christ,
there is this account open.
00:41:58.48\00:42:03.67
There is credit for you.
00:42:03.68\00:42:06.05
But you got to
accept it, you know,
00:42:06.06\00:42:07.61
Christ said, hey, you are okay.
00:42:07.62\00:42:10.37
You're gonna walk into that,
00:42:10.38\00:42:11.41
you're gonna use that,
or you're gonna kind of
00:42:11.42\00:42:13.36
stay on the outside,
just kind of looking in.
00:42:13.37\00:42:15.80
He is our Savior
and when we come to Him,
00:42:15.81\00:42:19.76
immediately we get credit.
00:42:19.77\00:42:21.75
We get credit for something
00:42:22.95\00:42:24.19
that we have not yet attained.
00:42:24.20\00:42:26.18
He just says, from
now on since you love me,
00:42:26.19\00:42:29.31
I'm gonna look at you
as though you are perfect.
00:42:29.32\00:42:32.82
I'm gonna look at
you in a sinless state,
00:42:32.83\00:42:35.25
not because I'm
looking a perfect person,
00:42:35.26\00:42:38.37
I'm kind looking through
00:42:38.38\00:42:39.35
my own blood stain
glasses dare I say,
00:42:39.36\00:42:42.32
and when I look
through the blood of Christ,
00:42:42.33\00:42:44.27
I see you as perfect.
00:42:44.28\00:42:46.23
I'm giving you my life,
the perfect life I live,
00:42:46.24\00:42:48.67
precisely, as your own.
00:42:48.68\00:42:50.13
And that's why there is
this imagery of the covering,
00:42:50.14\00:42:52.91
being covered with
the righteous robe,
00:42:52.92\00:42:55.28
the garment of Christ,
because when we are covered
00:42:55.29\00:42:58.36
even though we
are stained inside,
00:42:58.37\00:43:00.55
the Father sees
Christ in our life.
00:43:00.56\00:43:03.25
That John, really is
00:43:03.26\00:43:04.34
a mind blowing
reality, it really is.
00:43:04.35\00:43:07.34
There you are with your
striped shirt on, you know,
00:43:08.34\00:43:10.67
and Christ says I'm
not going to see you, John,
00:43:12.02\00:43:14.82
with your
striped shirt on. Right.
00:43:14.83\00:43:16.22
I'm gonna see you with
a perfectly white robe,
00:43:16.23\00:43:19.28
because I chose to.
00:43:19.29\00:43:20.93
Is not that I--I
can see you like this,
00:43:20.94\00:43:24.25
but I choose to
see you another way
00:43:24.26\00:43:26.72
that--and there is nothing
you've done to merit that.
00:43:26.73\00:43:30.91
It's, the Father saying,
since Christ has done this,
00:43:30.92\00:43:34.62
from now on that's
going to color dare I say.
00:43:34.63\00:43:37.24
Everything I see about
you, so I'm going to look at you
00:43:37.25\00:43:40.64
as though you are perfect.
00:43:40.65\00:43:41.99
I'm going to treat you
as though you are perfect.
00:43:42.00\00:43:45.14
I'm going to adopt
you as a child of mine
00:43:45.15\00:43:48.58
and give you all the benefits
00:43:48.59\00:43:50.88
that accrue from that adoption,
00:43:50.89\00:43:53.05
and you deserve
absolutely none of it.
00:43:53.06\00:43:56.31
But I am doing it
because my son Jesus
00:43:56.32\00:43:59.18
has sacrificed
His blood for you.
00:43:59.19\00:44:00.93
That just kind of
knocks you out, man,
00:44:00.94\00:44:03.30
it's just
marvelous. You can do it.
00:44:03.31\00:44:04.85
You can do anything with it.
00:44:04.86\00:44:06.29
All you yon can do is
just say, I accept it,
00:44:06.30\00:44:08.58
I want that. Yeah.
00:44:08.59\00:44:09.94
You know, and it a
couple of verses come into mind.
00:44:09.95\00:44:12.30
Isaiah Chapter 1
talks about our sins maybe--
00:44:13.53\00:44:19.25
what is the word
here, reddish crimson,
00:44:21.02\00:44:23.28
yes, he will be his world.
00:44:23.29\00:44:24.39
There will be
stain, they will be like--
00:44:25.88\00:44:27.74
Like scarlet, but I'm
going to make him white, yeah.
00:44:27.75\00:44:29.18
But I'm make him white as snow,
00:44:29.19\00:44:30.99
and so that imagery there is,
00:44:31.00\00:44:32.55
is the way God looks at
us, and that's a wonderful
00:44:32.56\00:44:35.64
thing when you accept
Christ as your Savior,
00:44:35.65\00:44:37.58
yeah, to be justified
00:44:37.59\00:44:39.54
and that's the
word I am using here.
00:44:39.55\00:44:42.59
One text is from
Romans Chapter 3 verse 25.
00:44:42.60\00:44:47.16
Actually starting with verse 23.
00:44:47.17\00:44:48.96
Let's back up a little bit.
00:44:48.97\00:44:50.58
"For all have sinned and
fall short of the glory of God."
00:44:50.59\00:44:53.22
In other words,
we cannot do anything
00:44:53.23\00:44:55.84
to earn this salvation.
00:44:55.85\00:44:58.46
Verse 24, "Being
justified" there is the word
00:44:58.47\00:45:01.33
justification is just
an extension of that word
00:45:01.34\00:45:03.97
"justified freely buy his grace
00:45:03.98\00:45:06.32
through the redemption
that is in Christ Jesus,
00:45:06.33\00:45:09.01
whom God set
forth as a propitiation
00:45:09.02\00:45:11.59
by his blood through faith"
00:45:11.60\00:45:14.05
and that's the key word there
00:45:14.06\00:45:15.25
"Through faith to
demonstrate his righteousness
00:45:15.26\00:45:17.77
because in his forbearance
00:45:17.78\00:45:19.53
God had past over
the sins that were
00:45:19.54\00:45:23.73
previously
committed to demonstrate
00:45:23.74\00:45:26.48
at the present
time His righteousness,
00:45:26.49\00:45:28.57
that He might be
just and the justifier
00:45:28.58\00:45:31.08
of the one who
has faith in Jesus."
00:45:31.09\00:45:34.84
Here is this
perfect gracious gift
00:45:34.85\00:45:38.44
that God has given to
us to pass over our sins
00:45:38.45\00:45:42.37
if we had never
sinned to be our Savior,
00:45:42.38\00:45:44.75
to have taken that
penalty of sin on Himself
00:45:44.76\00:45:48.45
and to die that
eternal separation
00:45:48.46\00:45:50.64
that we would
have do experience,
00:45:50.65\00:45:52.62
had we not had the Savior?
00:45:52.63\00:45:54.81
It's just an amazing
thought and, you know, what
00:45:54.82\00:45:57.71
one of the things
that I have to mention here
00:45:57.72\00:46:00.02
when we read like Ephesians 2:8,
00:46:00.03\00:46:02.74
talking about by
grace we've been saved
00:46:04.78\00:46:06.38
through faith,
it's a gift of God.
00:46:06.39\00:46:08.77
Not of works,
let's anyone boast.
00:46:08.78\00:46:10.46
When we talk about that verse,
00:46:11.51\00:46:12.87
that's typical what
people think of as grace.
00:46:12.88\00:46:15.19
But there is actually several,
00:46:16.64\00:46:17.92
there is a
couple aspects of grace.
00:46:17.93\00:46:19.79
Very true. That's saving grace.
00:46:19.80\00:46:22.53
That's the grace, none
of the grace you can earn,
00:46:22.54\00:46:25.26
but that's the
grace that saves you,
00:46:25.27\00:46:26.64
that justifies you which is
what are talking about here.
00:46:26.65\00:46:30.00
And we're gonna
transition here into,
00:46:30.01\00:46:33.06
not just the
saving aspect of grace,
00:46:33.07\00:46:35.01
but a living and
powering aspect of grace.
00:46:35.02\00:46:40.02
Of grace, really. Yes, yes.
00:46:40.03\00:46:41.49
You've mentioned the
word and it jumped out of it
00:46:42.56\00:46:44.73
because it, if we continue
to read verse 27, he says,
00:46:44.74\00:46:48.46
"Where is
boasting then, you know,
00:46:48.47\00:46:50.49
when you look at
the salvation process,
00:46:50.50\00:46:52.63
we really have
nothing to sort of
00:46:52.64\00:46:54.53
thump our chest about.
00:46:54.54\00:46:56.17
And I am tapping on microphone,
00:46:56.18\00:46:57.15
I know my--the
director and guys are going to
00:46:57.16\00:46:59.43
get upset, because you
are not supposed to do that.
00:46:59.44\00:47:01.30
But what can you
pound your chest about.
00:47:01.31\00:47:03.82
It begins with Jesus,
it goes on all you can do,
00:47:05.48\00:47:10.68
is humbly say, Lord I
praise you and I thank you.
00:47:10.69\00:47:14.02
You know God is
saying because of what Christ
00:47:14.03\00:47:16.76
has done, you
are not going to die,
00:47:16.77\00:47:21.17
not only are you not
going to die, you're gonna live.
00:47:21.18\00:47:24.98
Not only are you going to live,
00:47:24.99\00:47:26.96
you are going to
live victoriously.
00:47:26.97\00:47:29.10
You are going to be
adopted into the family
00:47:29.11\00:47:32.28
with all the right
and privileges thereof.
00:47:32.29\00:47:35.43
And have opened for
you a line of credit
00:47:35.44\00:47:38.54
that you cannot overdraw.
00:47:38.55\00:47:40.53
Anytime you need
strength, come and get it,
00:47:40.54\00:47:43.41
it's waiting there for you. Why?
00:47:43.42\00:47:46.11
Simply because
you accept Christ.
00:47:46.12\00:47:48.26
It's marvelous,
the initiative of God
00:47:49.49\00:47:53.59
to begin this act and all
we have to do is stop fighting,
00:47:53.60\00:47:57.92
and all of these are ours.
00:47:57.93\00:47:58.99
Yeah. Yeah.
00:47:59.00\00:48:00.29
And this is the part of
the free grace that we get,
00:48:00.30\00:48:03.84
and I see free
grace not in that Christ
00:48:03.85\00:48:07.78
did it really easily
and it was all free to Him,
00:48:07.79\00:48:09.75
I mean, it cost
Christ everything.
00:48:09.76\00:48:11.37
It cost the Father everything
00:48:11.38\00:48:12.98
to give that to
us, but it's free
00:48:12.99\00:48:14.77
and that we cannot earn it.
00:48:14.78\00:48:16.05
And there is, but there
is a salvation aspect here
00:48:17.98\00:48:22.25
that I want to
transition to here that,
00:48:22.26\00:48:25.12
that is the other
part of His title.
00:48:25.13\00:48:28.22
He is Savior, He
saved us from our sins but--
00:48:28.23\00:48:32.00
and He has justified us
00:48:32.01\00:48:33.16
freely as we've
been talking about.
00:48:33.17\00:48:34.83
But then we get to a
sanctification aspect,
00:48:34.84\00:48:37.90
the growth in Christ. Oh, yes.
00:48:37.91\00:48:39.95
The living day by day with Him,
00:48:39.96\00:48:41.92
because you see when
He saves you and when you,
00:48:41.93\00:48:45.40
as a public
expression of that salvation
00:48:45.41\00:48:47.71
are baptized into Him.
00:48:47.72\00:48:50.14
Christ also takes
that symbol of baptism.
00:48:50.15\00:48:54.28
Going down to the oak,
00:48:54.29\00:48:55.30
letting the old man
die and coming back in,
00:48:55.31\00:48:57.16
we did a recent program on that.
00:48:57.17\00:48:59.03
And then He says, I want to
now fill you with My spirit.
00:48:59.04\00:49:02.71
So that you may walk in
that salvation experience,
00:49:04.01\00:49:07.31
that saving that Christ
as your Savior experience.
00:49:07.32\00:49:10.34
And this is the
beginning of making Jesus,
00:49:10.35\00:49:13.11
your Lord and so
this is the aspect,
00:49:13.12\00:49:17.07
I guess we didn't talk
00:49:17.08\00:49:18.24
a little bit
about what Lord means.
00:49:18.25\00:49:19.95
And you go back, you know,
00:49:21.03\00:49:22.08
typically when I think of Lord,
00:49:22.09\00:49:23.32
I think of the English,
00:49:23.33\00:49:26.23
you know, you go back to that.
00:49:26.24\00:49:27.66
You see these old
programs, you know,
00:49:27.67\00:49:29.47
the knights and all
the other things and
00:49:29.48\00:49:31.67
stuff that, you
know, you grew up
00:49:31.68\00:49:33.01
with the Lords
since stuff that are
00:49:33.02\00:49:35.01
over there in
England. Lord's small L.
00:49:35.02\00:49:37.73
Yeah, Lord's small L,
absolutely, I forget that.
00:49:37.74\00:49:40.90
But the word Lord
is very much the same.
00:49:40.91\00:49:45.41
Because Lord, there is
authority in the household,
00:49:45.42\00:49:49.66
authority of the family.
00:49:49.67\00:49:51.45
He is in charge
of all His resources?
00:49:51.46\00:49:54.35
And that's what
Jesus is as He has
00:49:54.36\00:49:56.99
purchased back our redemption.
00:49:57.00\00:49:59.18
He has purchased us back.
00:49:59.19\00:50:00.96
Once we accept
Him as our Savior,
00:50:00.97\00:50:02.90
the only place to go
is to take the next step
00:50:02.91\00:50:06.34
and accept Him as
the Lord of our life,
00:50:06.35\00:50:08.64
because we-- as being
as part of His kingdom,
00:50:08.65\00:50:11.36
it is His resources,
it is His spirit leading
00:50:11.37\00:50:14.04
and guiding us, Him
providing for all of our needs.
00:50:14.05\00:50:18.00
We need to begin to
think of Him as Lord,
00:50:18.01\00:50:20.51
not just our
Savior. Very, very true.
00:50:20.52\00:50:23.78
And I like the illusion.
00:50:23.79\00:50:26.05
Sanctification,
justification, Lord,
00:50:27.16\00:50:30.52
I've stepped in the
mud and my shoes are muddy.
00:50:30.53\00:50:33.77
I need you to look at me
00:50:35.86\00:50:37.42
as though my
shoes are not muddy,
00:50:37.43\00:50:39.87
while you are
cleaning them, justification.
00:50:39.88\00:50:43.53
Now, Lord, I need you
00:50:44.62\00:50:45.59
to clean my
shoes, sanctification.
00:50:45.60\00:50:49.51
But also I want
you to direct my path,
00:50:49.52\00:50:52.77
so that I don't step
in anymore mud, Lord.
00:50:52.78\00:50:55.96
Yeah. Lead me in the right way.
00:50:55.97\00:50:58.83
I am willing to say wherever
you lead, I will follow.
00:50:58.84\00:51:02.92
Now I am making
you Lord of my life.
00:51:02.93\00:51:04.53
And if You say go here, I go.
00:51:04.54\00:51:06.39
If you say make a
left, I make a left.
00:51:06.40\00:51:08.43
I am making You Lord of my life.
00:51:08.44\00:51:10.18
I am surrendering
to You because I know
00:51:10.19\00:51:12.63
if I take my own path,
I am in mud up to my neck,
00:51:12.64\00:51:16.55
but if I will follow you,
I can kind of be mud free.
00:51:16.56\00:51:20.03
So the key aspect you are saying
00:51:20.04\00:51:21.23
then of Lordship is leadership.
00:51:21.24\00:51:23.56
Precisely, yeah.
00:51:23.57\00:51:24.87
Which we have to
connect to discipleship.
00:51:24.88\00:51:26.97
Oh, yes.
00:51:26.98\00:51:28.54
You can't get away from that.
00:51:28.55\00:51:30.11
It's it's--everybody wants
Jesus to clean up the mess.
00:51:30.12\00:51:33.88
Nobody wants to
live a messy life,
00:51:33.89\00:51:38.17
but the next step
is ordering your life,
00:51:38.18\00:51:41.32
so that you cannot
create any new messes,
00:51:41.33\00:51:44.33
so that you can live
above that kind of life,
00:51:44.34\00:51:48.09
so that you can be free,
so that sin does not have
00:51:48.10\00:51:51.13
dominion which you points it out
00:51:51.14\00:51:52.82
in your message
over you anymore.
00:51:52.83\00:51:54.18
Yeah. Yeah.
00:51:54.19\00:51:55.28
There are very
popular verse, First John 1:9,
00:51:55.29\00:51:57.59
"If we confess our
sins, he is faithful
00:51:57.60\00:51:59.07
and just to
forgive us our sins."
00:51:59.08\00:52:01.87
There is the Savior's aspect.
00:52:01.88\00:52:03.32
He has brought back or
He is just in declaring you
00:52:03.33\00:52:07.87
righteous even
though you are not.
00:52:09.61\00:52:12.02
But also then He cleanse
us from all unrighteousness,
00:52:12.03\00:52:16.49
that's the
washing, continually washing
00:52:16.50\00:52:18.15
think that's the
leadership aspect of Lord,
00:52:18.16\00:52:21.41
that's the discipleship
part and there is a lot we
00:52:21.42\00:52:24.62
say about discipleship,
but really that's making
00:52:24.63\00:52:27.47
Jesus the decision
maker in your life.
00:52:27.48\00:52:30.34
And I think that it is an aspect
00:52:30.35\00:52:32.41
that is difficult for us to do.
00:52:32.42\00:52:34.31
I mean, come on,
who doesn't want to
00:52:34.32\00:52:36.63
avoid fires of
hell, who doesn't want to
00:52:36.64\00:52:39.74
live in eternal
bliss, who doesn't want to
00:52:39.75\00:52:42.67
experience those things,
but I would ask the question.
00:52:42.68\00:52:45.52
Who wants to give up
their life, as they know it.
00:52:46.95\00:52:49.66
You know, that's not,
00:52:51.06\00:52:52.41
that's not an
easy thing necessarily
00:52:52.42\00:52:54.18
and that's why it
requires the saving part first
00:52:54.19\00:52:57.06
because it-- our
mind has to be transformed
00:52:57.07\00:52:59.07
to want to give our lives
to Jesus for what He has done.
00:52:59.08\00:53:02.61
Then we've got to
make the decision,
00:53:02.62\00:53:04.28
and it's a day by day
taking up of our cross of dying
00:53:04.29\00:53:07.88
to remain in that
decision to make Him our Lord.
00:53:07.89\00:53:11.64
Yes, and a number of
things that accrue from that
00:53:11.65\00:53:13.08
including what we talked
about little bit earlier.
00:53:13.09\00:53:15.61
As you walk with the
Lord, you guess spread
00:53:15.62\00:53:17.25
the discernment as
you surrender to Him.
00:53:17.26\00:53:20.78
The line between right
and wrong also become clear,
00:53:20.79\00:53:24.29
so that, John
Stanton, in this year,
00:53:24.30\00:53:27.42
is not the John
Stanton of 10 years ago
00:53:27.43\00:53:29.41
and the idea of putting on short
00:53:29.42\00:53:30.63
and sneakers and
playing basketball on Sabbath,
00:53:30.64\00:53:32.29
does not even occur
you, because you are
00:53:32.30\00:53:33.67
much further along that road,
00:53:33.68\00:53:35.05
that's not even a
temptation any more.
00:53:35.06\00:53:36.90
Because you are
being sanctified,
00:53:36.91\00:53:38.74
your life has been cleansed.
00:53:38.75\00:53:39.79
I will take a quick start,
00:53:39.80\00:53:40.77
my mother used to
come and visit me.
00:53:40.78\00:53:42.22
Now we are
talking about your mom
00:53:42.23\00:53:43.67
just before we came on air.
00:53:43.68\00:53:45.78
One of the
things that aggravate me
00:53:45.79\00:53:46.98
about my mother is that
she is a compulsive cleaner.
00:53:46.99\00:53:49.63
When my mother
would come to particularly
00:53:49.64\00:53:51.17
when I was single
before I got married,
00:53:51.18\00:53:53.20
I was pasturing
but I was single.
00:53:53.21\00:53:55.12
I would clean
before she came to house,
00:53:55.13\00:53:56.97
because I know my
mother's tendency,
00:53:56.98\00:53:59.76
and she get in, take
off her coat and begin,
00:53:59.77\00:54:03.17
finding stuff
to clean, you know,
00:54:03.18\00:54:04.80
it would kind of
aggravate me because I said,
00:54:04.81\00:54:06.02
"I've already cleaned that mom."
00:54:06.03\00:54:07.03
She said like, "No, you didn't."
00:54:07.04\00:54:08.06
That's, that's not clean.
00:54:08.07\00:54:09.75
I was gonna say you clean it,
00:54:09.76\00:54:10.89
and she would clean
behind the refrigerator,
00:54:10.90\00:54:13.04
she would clean the
receiver of the phone,
00:54:13.05\00:54:14.71
she would clean under
the toaster, you know,
00:54:14.72\00:54:16.44
she all these little places that
00:54:16.45\00:54:17.64
it didn't occurred me to catch.
00:54:17.65\00:54:20.05
And that's what
the Holy Spirit does.
00:54:20.06\00:54:21.92
Once that comes into
your life, it's like my mom,
00:54:21.93\00:54:24.70
clean, clean, clean, clean,
00:54:24.71\00:54:26.36
and you think
that's pretty clean,
00:54:26.37\00:54:27.85
Holy Spirit, no,
no, its not that clean.
00:54:27.86\00:54:29.76
Let me share you
this; and the longer
00:54:29.77\00:54:31.39
you are with Him
that sanctifying process
00:54:31.40\00:54:33.48
you see more and more
that needs to be clean,
00:54:33.49\00:54:35.17
but you are
actually getting better,
00:54:35.18\00:54:36.88
I say better and
drawing closer to the Lord
00:54:36.89\00:54:39.15
through that cleaning process.
00:54:39.16\00:54:40.13
So He is faithful
and just to forgive
00:54:40.14\00:54:44.31
and then He starts
cleansing, and it never stops.
00:54:44.32\00:54:47.31
It continues till
you close your eye.
00:54:47.32\00:54:48.91
You know, an amazing
thing about that too is,
00:54:48.92\00:54:50.44
this is where both
aspects are working together,
00:54:50.45\00:54:52.74
because during the
entire cleaning process,
00:54:52.75\00:54:55.02
you are saved
because of His Savior, yes,
00:54:55.03\00:54:58.13
experience,
salvation experience.
00:54:58.14\00:55:00.81
But He is also cleaning you up.
00:55:00.82\00:55:02.76
And He is so
patient, you can make mistakes
00:55:02.77\00:55:07.47
and it's not, oh,
I am saved one moment
00:55:07.48\00:55:09.51
and I am not
saved the next moment.
00:55:09.52\00:55:10.60
He doesn't do it, it
doesn't knock you off,
00:55:10.61\00:55:12.20
the salvation platform there
in the middle of the ocean.
00:55:12.21\00:55:16.71
He keeps saving you everyday.
00:55:16.72\00:55:20.30
But you grow and
there is latitude for that
00:55:20.31\00:55:23.47
growth
experience that He gives you
00:55:23.48\00:55:25.41
and it's the trend of the life
00:55:25.42\00:55:26.67
where you're heading.
00:55:26.68\00:55:27.93
I can't tell you how many
people as pastor that I've
00:55:27.94\00:55:30.76
talked to that have
said, I think I have committed
00:55:30.77\00:55:32.54
the unpardonable sin.
00:55:32.55\00:55:33.67
No, I've discourage
the Lord for the last time.
00:55:33.68\00:55:37.18
He want forgive me and I
point usually to the text
00:55:37.19\00:55:39.90
where Jesus says,
you know, how often,
00:55:39.91\00:55:41.76
should you forgive,
the disciple asked to me.
00:55:41.77\00:55:43.36
He said, I don't say seven times
00:55:43.37\00:55:45.54
but seventy times seven.
00:55:45.55\00:55:47.00
If Jesus told them
that how many times
00:55:47.01\00:55:49.12
does Jesus forgive us.
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.
00:55:49.13\00:55:51.62
And this is His grace.
00:55:51.63\00:55:53.16
This is what makes me
fall in love with Jesus
00:55:53.17\00:55:56.89
initially because
He saved me from sin,
00:55:56.90\00:55:58.80
but now because I'm a
wreck and He is so patient.
00:55:58.81\00:56:03.76
He saves you immediately
from the power of sin
00:56:05.40\00:56:07.94
then He works on saving
from the presence of sin.
00:56:07.95\00:56:10.14
It saved and being saved.
00:56:10.15\00:56:12.64
Saved while you are being saved.
00:56:12.65\00:56:14.45
It's a marvelous thing
and it is the initiative
00:56:14.46\00:56:16.76
of our loving Heavenly Father.
00:56:16.77\00:56:18.76
I think to that it's
an aspect of preaching
00:56:18.77\00:56:22.76
that is missed today.
00:56:22.77\00:56:24.70
In Christianity at large,
Lot of people talked about
00:56:24.71\00:56:28.86
how, you know, I got saved
00:56:28.87\00:56:31.25
which is really the
justification experience,
00:56:31.26\00:56:33.74
but I am being saved as
well and it's those that are
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being saved while they
got saved that are saved.
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Yes, yes, yes. Very true.
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And the constant
needing to remember that
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and stay connected I
think is really, really a key.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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This is a exciting study
and I am sure your church
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or preacher
appreciated when you brought
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that to them, because
it's something that we need to
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bring up every so often
just to remind ourselves
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of our status and
standing in Christ Jesus.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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You know, it's
such an exciting thing
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to think about to that
the Lord is so patient.
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He has saved us but He is
also continuing to save us
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every day from our own self.
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And I hope that maybe
this has sparked some fire,
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some interest in your own life
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and your own
experience with Jesus.
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And that you can from this point
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forward begin to make
Jesus not just your Savior,
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but the Lord of
your life as well.
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Trust Him today.
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