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Amen. No place like
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What would we gonna be covering
today John, tell me about it?
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You know we are going to
cover our on going topic here.
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We started with Baptism.
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We are gonna
continue with Baptism.
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But some aspects
that maybe people
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haven't thought of
it, consider before.
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That's right and it's
important to know that
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and so friends
whatever you do, don't move,
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suspend all phone
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because Lord wants you
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And we believe that
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and a pen and a
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And so before we do anything,
even answer your questions,
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we gonna begin with prayer.
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John, have prayer for us.
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Dear Father, we ask again that
you would descend upon us here
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as we open your word that your
spirit would lead and guide us
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as we study this very
important topic of Baptism
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and as we answer the
questions from our viewers
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and our listeners in
Jesus name. Amen. Amen.
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I hold in my hand
evidence of the fact
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that you've been
keeping in touch with us,
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thank you so much for
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Some of them come via e-mail,
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some of them
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however they get here,
thank you for sending them.
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And we would like to
answer those questions.
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And this person has
extremely nice hand writing,
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thank you so much, Mary.
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If you are the person
that you know you are,
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thank you so much for
this very legible handwriting,
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you've been listening.
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But John we gonna let you go
ahead and cast off into the...
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I thought you gonna take off
right there with that question,
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but I'll be happy.
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Okay.
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This question comes to
us from Jamaica, Jamaica.
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A place of Irie! Yes,
and it's a 17-year-old, who,
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this question came a while ago.
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But I resurrected the question
because it's the good one.
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Open.
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Well, it's because
someone else has asked me
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this question here recently,
it says, since I have started
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watching 3ABN I
have been touched
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and are on the path of regaining
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a personal
relationship with Christ.
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Amen. Praise the Lord.
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I have got two questions that
I'd like you to help me with.
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No 1 were Adam and Eve
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literally able
to talk to animals?
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I ask this because
it says that Eve talked
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to the serpent, who was Satan.
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And the second one, question
is, did dinosaurs really exist?
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If so where it is
tallying to creation and etc?
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All right.
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We are a way, on
this question here,
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thank you very
much for writing in,
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we appreciate that, the
first question here about,
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was Adam and Eve Literally
able to talk with animals?
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I don't think that
there is any evidence
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that they actually had a
conversation with animals.
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But I believe that probably,
it's very likely that there was
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a much more easily
understood perception
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from animals,
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from the animals' perspective
of what Adam and Eve,
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their masters or the ones
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that oversaw the
earth wanted from them.
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In another words,
you know, whether it be
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a close relationship
or close friendship.
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You know whether you
are hugging your animal,
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or really kind of holding on,
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and you know how
we love our animals,
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we love our pets.
Yeah, love our pets.
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I believe to a degree
there was a pet relationship
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between Adam and
Eve and all the animals
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that were in the Garden of Eden.
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You know it was
nice about that John.
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I am gonna let you
continue about that thought
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is He was the only pet owner.
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Yeah, that's right.
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He and his wife Eve,
good thing they didn't have
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to take the animals for a walk.
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They would've been
out for a long, long time.
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But I don't believe
that there any evidence,
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with in scripture that there
was a conversation of source
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that they actually could speak
animal language and communicate.
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The other reason for that is
because there's no indication
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here that animals have
that kind of intellect.
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Now I am not saying
animals are dumb by any means,
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they're not but they communicate
on a whole different level.
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And it is in cognitive level
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that humans relate to today.
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Now the further question
here, a part of the question is
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how is then the Eve
communicated with the serpent?
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She didn't find it odd for the
serpent to be talking with her.
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Well I think actually this
lands more to the conclusion
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that they did not talked to
the animals more than they did,
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then it does that they
did talk to the animals,
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here's why say that, is
because the serpent used
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the fact that he could
talk with Eve as resulting
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from him eating the fruit.
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You understand what
I am saying John here?
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So he said you know, look
what this has done for me.
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And clearly he was on a superior
level to the other animals
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in communicating with Eve
that deceived her into thinking
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that this fruit somehow
gave him, the serpent something,
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that the other
animals didn't have.
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So that tells me the
other animals were not able
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to communicate on that
level with Adam and Eve.
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See, I am saying, see
the reasoning in there.
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So a part of the
serpent's deception here,
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and of course we
know Satan speaking
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or channeling
through the serpent,
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let's get that straight,
it wasn't the serpent actually
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speaking as much
was Satan channeling
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through the serpent that part
of the deception was as look
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how wise I have
become in eating this fruit.
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You can become that
wise as well, eat or take.
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See what it'll
give as a human being,
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look what has
given to me as an animal.
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I'm glad you mentioned that
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because I'm glad you
used the word, Channeling,
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because in fact
that's what happen.
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One of the reasons
why we read the text
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and sometimes it
flies over our head
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and I am using
that in the punch sense
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is because the serpent
was able to fly at one time.
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Why would it be a curse if
he always crawled on his belly?
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But because he allowed himself
to be used of the serpent,
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and that in itself is something
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we will understand
better in eternity,
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all the details that are not
mentioned in that particular,
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in that particular description
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of what happened
in the Garden of Eden.
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But obviously
there was some allowance
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on the part of the
serpent, that Satan came in
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and channeled through
him and communicated to Eve.
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Now we know the
angel Satan could talk.
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We know the angel
Satan could communicate,
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thereby coming into the serpent.
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And when you look at
Genesis, matter of fact,
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go with us to the
book of Genesis Chapter 3.
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You begin to see
clearly that the Lord address
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the issue in a very direct way.
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He says, Genesis
Chapter 3 verse 14,
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well let's start with the
verse 12 because the man said,
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It's a terrible
verse, "The mam said,
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"the woman whom
you gave to be with me
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she gave me of
the tree, and I ate."
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And the Lord said to the woman,
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"What is this
that you have done?"
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And the woman said, "The
serpent deceived me, and I ate."
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Notice the blame game,
but now notice verse 14,
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"So the Lord
said to the serpent,
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see the Lord is
able to communicate
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with all of His creation that's
what clearly delineated here,
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the Lord is able to communicate
because He created everything,
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So the Lord said to the
serpent, notice what he is,
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notice how he is
talking at the serpent,
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he's actually
communicating to the serpent,
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so the serpent here
clearly understands God's voice,
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in the same way,
he said, to the waves
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and the seas be
still into the wind sees,
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that's English
language, we understand that.
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And the same way God is able
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to communicate to
all of His creation.
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In the way they
understand what he's saying,
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not in a way
that they communicate
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as humans
communicate back and forth,
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I want to make
that statement here
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because it's not that level.
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And I also want to point out
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that the serpent
didn't respond back
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because he
didn't had the capacity
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to talk back to the
God, that's the other part,
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but notice what the Lord said
"Because you have done this,
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"you are cursed
more than all cattle
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"and more than
every beast of the field
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"and here's the curse,
on your belly you shall go,
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and you shall dust all
the days of your life."
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Now, I don't know if
we rejoice on that note
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or not but I would
just imagine today John,
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if the Lord didn't
take from the serpent
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the ability to fly,
and all snakes flew,
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can you imagine a
flying boa constrictor?
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A flying cobra, a flying,
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what the other
one, a rattle snake.
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I can't imagine getting
away from a flying cobra,
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a flying python, boa
constrictor, rattle snake.
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It would make earth
a terrible place to be,
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I like flying birds but
we do something terrible.
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And so I clearly see
in that sense the reason
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why there is no dialogue
of the serpent talking back,
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is because the serpent
didn't have the ability to talk.
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But now you have Revelation 12
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and you see that Jesus
makes a clear reference to that,
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the very serpent,
the serpent of old.
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But notice who he
describe that serpent to be,
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the devil and Satan who
deceives the whole world.
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And the woman
said, she was deceived,
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and so serpent was the
one, Satan was the one actively
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speaking through
the serpent of Eve.
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I agree, the
second question here,
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a part of the question is,
did dinosaurs really exist,
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absolutely, the
dinosaurs existed,
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there's evidence of that.
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But if so where would
this tie in with creation?
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You know and let me say
this, there are many people
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with different views on
this, so I have to say that.
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What we express
here or what we believe,
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our views that are
harmonizing with scripture,
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harmonize with God's
plan and His creation.
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I think probably most.
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The most prevalent
views would be one,
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God created the
dinosaurs, number two,
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would be that
God created something
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very like the
dinosaurs but the dinosaurs
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became something
He never planned them
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becoming because
man began to do things
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with interconnecting
at least the species
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and He's had amalgamations that
what we see today in dinosaurs,
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that's the other thought too.
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So I don't know,
your views on that John
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but it doesn't seem like
God would create something
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like a tea racks with
the weird looking arms
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and all that stuff,
it really looks like
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amalgamation to a degree,
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rather then just a pure
creation from the outset.
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But then again you
know, I have to be honest,
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I arrived a
conclusion on that either,
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so I am openly being
convinced you know either way.
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To be able to bring
some gravity to this,
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we've had people
that have come to 3ABN
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and have done
programs on dinosaurs.
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And they have
done an excellent job
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explaining them of their
origin, obviously they said yes,
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this was something
that was in the earth.
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But they noticed
also that were most of,
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if not all the
fossils are being found,
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they're being
found by a regions,
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or in regions where
the elevation is higher.
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And they said
that during the flood,
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one of the reasons why
these animals did not exist
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after the flood is one they
were not invited into the ark,
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they were not in the
ark, that's an obvious thing
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because they would have made it
on the other side of the flood.
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This animals not
being in the ark,
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there fossils are
found in the high elevations
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that's where you find in
places like Nevada in Colorado,
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and where there at
the base of the mountains
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or higher elevations, they
try to escape the rising waters.
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If you are on the same
thing, a down in South America,
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they said, these
fossils are found by places
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that have high
elevation, clear indications.
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They are not
found in the Mid West,
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they are not found in the
flat plain places like Florida.
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You know, no offence to
Florida, but they are not found
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in those regions
which the archeologists
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and the geologists say
and those who paleontologists,
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all point out that
these beasts did exist
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but they did not
exist post flood.
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And so you have
phrases like the Leviathan,
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which is in fact
another term for the snake or...
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and then you have the serpent
which also the Leviathan.
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We now also use the word dragon
which is used in Revelation 12,
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the dragon with
seven heads and ten horns,
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this fiery red dragon or
the scarlet colored beast.
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And so those things
existed and the reason why
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that language is used
is because the serpent
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did have wings at one point.
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And the
description in the Bible given
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verifies that to be the truth.
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But once again I thank the
Lord that snakes don't fly,
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and I thank the Lord that
we don't have dinosaurs today.
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Yeah, and there is a
lot that we don't know about
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how everything happened to,
and that' s what I wanted to say
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that we are probably not
the authority of this subject,
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all we can do is
point you to those
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who have studied a lot more.
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And provide maybe a
synopsis a very brief one
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as we have of the possibilities.
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And you know 3ABN has programs,
if you contact 3ABN and ask
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in their library, maybe they'll
be able to get it to you,
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and say that, if maybe that
really gets you going there,
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maybe they'll be able
to get it to you some very,
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very good programming
and also give you some books.
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I think Pastor
Batchelor wrote a small pamphlet
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about some of that, if
I am mistaken I apologize
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but I believe, he has something
that partially explains that.
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And but for those who are
authorities they are Christians
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that have done
an intense research,
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creation scientists have done
research on these things too.
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And they point out
that the different levels
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that people talk about
are evidences of millions
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and billions of years, they have
an explanation for that too.
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And once again creation
is only about 6000 years old.
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And they show how
that is in fact something
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that is a plausible
and provable foundation.
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Oh, this person has a
question, kind of lengthy here,
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they kind of explaining
to us what their position is,
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Oh Ranold, thank you
so much for this email.
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It says, at the time
of flood man's thoughts
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were evil continually they
were out of harmony with nature.
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As our
population has been growing
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and morality has
declined in last centaury,
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earthquakes seem to
have increased an amount
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and intensity in mere
images of these factors.
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Jesus said, if we had
faith we could move mountains,
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do you think our
mind could have influences
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on the physical earth?
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Well, that was spiritually
there, obviously the intend
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there was no matter
what your situation is,
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if you have enough
faith, and He even pointed out
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in contrast faith like
a grain of a mustard seed.
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You could say, that
the mountain be removed
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and be casted at the sea.
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Well, there is no recorded
evidence of that happening,
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we do have a record though
in scripture when Joshua prayed,
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what happened to the sun?
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When Elisha prayed it didn't
rained for three and half years,
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and so we have evidences
but these were not the things
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that the mind did, but these
were the answers to the prayer
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that these were the
signs that God gave.
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Of that He would in fact
lengthen when has prayed,
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God had a 15 more
years to His life.
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And so we find the
sun going backward,
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we find that the lord is
sending flood to the earth,
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we find that He sent
destruction from the skies,
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these are all evidences
of people taking His word
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by fate but not
telekinesis or metaphysics
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which are the
terms nowadays used.
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Metaphysics is the science
of moving things with your mind.
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With paranormal,
God doesn't give us
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those kinds of
feelings or abilities.
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But He
continues, the Bible says,
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that the God holds the pillars
firm not that He destroys
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but holds together, and
will come to destroy those
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who destroy the
earth that's Revelation 11.
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They were much easy ways
to eliminate the pre-flood
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people then, then flood
the earth, this is His opinion.
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I think God gets blamed for
a lot of things he hasn't done.
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The Bible says, He'll
never bring a flood again.
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Well, if He is
holding the world together now
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there is no fountains of
the deep to flood the world.
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Peter said, it is
now reserved for fire,
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the time when he releases,
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His hold there is
only lave to come up.
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And let me even add
in fire to come down.
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Okay, here's the
text he's referring to,
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2nd Peter 3 and verse 7,
so this is kind of him sharing
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his view points on
these particular areas.
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2nd Peter 3 verse 7, but
the heavens and the earth
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which are now preserved by
the same world are reserved
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for fire unto
the Day of Judgment
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and perdition of ungodly
men, where as the NIV says,
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being kept for
the Day of Judgment
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and destruction of ungodly men.
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So there's a fire
that's being held,
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and that fire is the
fire of purification, so, yes,
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but two questions
that are answered,
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no we can't move
things with our mind.
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And secondly, he has the
world as being preserved,
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for destruction by
fire the second time,
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and he tells on that.
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No, that's very well
played, we have a question here
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that comes from
Penny, and she says,
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could you please
explain Ezekiel Chapter 9,
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okay, is this a
prophecy for the end time?
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It all seems so unlike God.
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And she says, thank you
for your thoughts. Okay.
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So let's turn to
Ezekiel Chapter 9.
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And I think as
we read Ezekiel 9,
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you'll find that
there are some very strong
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connections with Revelation.
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That is right, okay, we
are there, I mean I am there.
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And It's not a
very long Chapter,
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I'll read here
beginning with verse 1,
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"Then He called out in
my hearing with a loud voice
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"saying, let those who
have charged over the city
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draw near each with a
deadly weapon in his hand."
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And suddenly six
men from the direction
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of the upper gate
which faces north,
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each with his
battle axe in his hand,
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one man among them
was clothed with linen
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and had writers
in coin at a side.
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And they went in and
stood beside the bronze altar.
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Now the glory of the God of
the God of Israel had gone up
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from the cherub
on where it had been
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to the threshold of the temple.
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And he called to a
man clothed with linen,
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the man clothed with linen,
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who had the writers
in coin at his side.
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And the Lord said to him, "Go
through the midst of the city,
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"through the midst of Jerusalem,
and put a mark on the foreheads
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"of the men who sigh and
cry over the abominations done
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"in the land or done
with in it, excuse me,
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I am bringing other translations
as I re-thoughts into it."
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To the others He
said in my hearing,
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"Go after him
through the city and kill,
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"do not let your eye
spare nor have any pity.
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"Utterly slay old men
and young men and maidens,
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"and little children and women,
but do not come near any one
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"on whom is the mark.
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And begin at my sanctuary."
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So they began with the elders
who were before the temple.
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Then he said to
them, "Defile the temple,
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and fill the courts
with the slain. Go out."
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And they went out
and killed in the city.
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Yeah, it is the
clear and I think you.
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And there is little more
there but I stopped there
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so we could
comment on that at least.
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And notice two things that stand
out really clearly here when,
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when the angel with
the writers ink coin
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at the side go through,
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he's putting the
mark on the foreheads.
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He's putting the
mark on the foreheads,
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and he's going to Jerusalem,
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he's going to
Jerusalem clearly here.
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Now it had not only a
fulfillment in the past
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but it has a clear reflection
on Revelation Chapter 7.
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Revelation Chapter 7,
you'll see clearly that
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if we go there Revelation
Chapter 7 verse 1 and 4,
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The Lord is talking
about a time where harm
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and judgment will
come to the earth.
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But He says, before
that is done I want to seal
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the servants of our
God on their foreheads.
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Ezekiel 9 says, a
mark on their forehead.
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And the thing about that
is when they receive the mark,
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this destruction
more even affects those
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who have the mark
on their forehead.
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He says don't come near
anybody who has the mark,
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but what about those
who don't have the mark.
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It's clearly pointed
out what's going to happen.
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He says, slay utterly young
and old, don't even have pity.
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And so I think that's
what the person is saying,
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that it seem so unlike God.
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But what we have
to keep in mind is,
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what happens in the point
of destruction is not that God
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or betrayal the society you know
I'm going to kill everybody,
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that's not who God is
God is not a murderer.
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But God is the God of justice.
God is the God of judgment.
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He's also the God of
mercy and compassion.
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But the decision is
being made to be saved
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or to be lost is not
the decision that God makes,
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is the decision that we make.
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And the thing that we
have to remember here,
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is that when we are
talking about God's judgment,
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you know the executive judgment
the meeting out the punishment,
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it always comes after mercy.
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You see, we think okay God
has to be merciful all the time,
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and God is merciful all the time
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until it is time
for the judgment.
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So God doesn't just
punish or meet out judgment,
00:22:52.93\00:22:57.25
just for the sake of it,
He only does that on the heels
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or at the end of a
extended prayer of the mercy.
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So we're talking
about those individuals
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who receive the judgment of God
00:23:06.14\00:23:07.54
or experience
the judgment of God,
00:23:07.55\00:23:09.47
after they have
rejected His mercy.
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You understand what I am saying?
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So there's got to
be a rejection of mercy
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before there is a judgment.
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I wouldn't say that any
of us would say be merciful
00:23:18.20\00:23:22.95
to the serial killer out there,
and let him keep on living
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as he's living, killing people.
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At some points,
someone is gonna say,
00:23:29.67\00:23:31.52
would someone stop him?
00:23:31.53\00:23:34.18
Right, would someone
judge him and make sure
00:23:34.19\00:23:38.40
he does not do this any longer
00:23:38.41\00:23:40.00
and that's what
we are seeing here.
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And we are not talking
about, we are not talking about
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vigilante is a myth
would someone stop him,
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what in an essence we
are talking about here is,
00:23:47.20\00:23:49.32
at some point his reign of
terror has to come to an end.
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And now I want to add
to this, you are not saying
00:23:52.18\00:23:55.43
that God is not a God of mercy
00:23:55.44\00:23:56.85
when He meet His out
justice and judgment either.
00:23:56.86\00:23:59.26
He is in mercy, He does that.
00:23:59.27\00:24:00.81
Exactly, it is in
mercy He does that.
00:24:00.82\00:24:03.11
But to show you
the character of God,
00:24:03.12\00:24:04.72
2nd Peter 3 verse 9,
as this particular point,
00:24:04.73\00:24:07.90
the Lord is not slack
concerning His promises.
00:24:07.91\00:24:11.00
Some count slackness but it
is the long suffering toward us,
00:24:11.01\00:24:15.25
not willing that
any should perish,
00:24:15.26\00:24:18.18
but they all
should come to repentance.
00:24:18.19\00:24:20.39
Not willing that
any should perish,
00:24:20.40\00:24:22.29
what comes to your mind
that whosoever believe in Him
00:24:22.30\00:24:25.41
should not perish but have
everlasting life, John 3:16.
00:24:25.42\00:24:29.25
So the Lord
is...God that is not,
00:24:29.26\00:24:31.32
He's not coming down
here saying, you know,
00:24:31.33\00:24:33.94
I can't wait to
wipe that murderer out,
00:24:33.95\00:24:37.45
it is when we go
from the court setting
00:24:37.46\00:24:40.72
as you pointed out
in the last program.
00:24:40.73\00:24:43.57
When the verdict is
in and those who are not
00:24:43.58\00:24:46.25
covered with Jesus'
character are now unjust
00:24:46.26\00:24:51.13
and filthy eternally
then you cannot pollute
00:24:51.14\00:24:54.45
the universe that is only
for righteousness and justice.
00:24:54.46\00:24:57.64
You cannot pollute the universe.
00:24:57.65\00:24:59.54
And the same way when
the garbage begins to smell,
00:24:59.55\00:25:02.72
you get it out of the house.
00:25:02.73\00:25:04.39
And the same way God is
going to make a new heaven
00:25:04.40\00:25:06.52
and the new earth where
only righteousness dwells.
00:25:06.53\00:25:09.70
So sin cannot exists in
the presence of righteousness.
00:25:09.71\00:25:13.86
And that simply
what's going to be happening.
00:25:13.87\00:25:15.71
God is not making
choices to wipe out.
00:25:15.72\00:25:18.37
They are making
choices not to be saved
00:25:18.38\00:25:21.28
and therefore they
would be destroyed,
00:25:21.29\00:25:24.47
and in mercy God
is going meet out
00:25:24.48\00:25:28.43
that justice and that judgment.
00:25:28.44\00:25:30.46
So it's a lot to talk about here
but we want to make sure that
00:25:30.47\00:25:32.74
people see that God is,
in fact the God of love.
00:25:32.75\00:25:35.57
But His love is not
apart from His justice
00:25:35.58\00:25:38.45
and that's the picture there,
00:25:38.46\00:25:39.92
in Ezekiel 9 and
Revelation Chapter 7.
00:25:39.93\00:25:43.75
That's right,
and as we go in here,
00:25:43.76\00:25:46.93
we need to make sure
that we are identifying
00:25:46.94\00:25:49.40
the right group that is
experiencing this judgment.
00:25:49.41\00:25:53.90
This is talking about Jerusalem
and those who worship there.
00:25:53.91\00:25:58.06
So within God's
church, and I would call this
00:25:58.07\00:26:02.33
the visible church of God here.
00:26:02.34\00:26:05.07
If there is going to be a
judgment in advance of those
00:26:05.08\00:26:09.43
who are as Revelation speaks
00:26:09.44\00:26:12.82
of outside the temple.
00:26:12.83\00:26:14.83
The outside of the court yard,
which is given the Gentiles,
00:26:15.65\00:26:19.54
in fact, I think we look
at Revelation 11: it says,
00:26:19.55\00:26:23.99
I was given a read like
measuring Lord, verse 1,
00:26:24.00\00:26:28.35
and the angel stood
saying, rise and measure
00:26:28.36\00:26:31.37
the temple of God the
altar, those who worship there,
00:26:31.38\00:26:33.88
but leave out the court
which is outside the temple
00:26:33.89\00:26:36.57
and do not measure it for
it is given to the Gentiles.
00:26:36.58\00:26:40.28
So here you know, all
though there's an historical
00:26:40.29\00:26:42.80
application to this,
there is a future application
00:26:42.81\00:26:45.14
to this in light of Ezekiel
9 which says that in Jerusalem
00:26:45.15\00:26:50.12
the judgment of God would
begin out the house of God.
00:26:50.13\00:26:53.62
1st Peter 4:17, And
this is where we are seeing
00:26:53.63\00:26:56.80
Judgment occurs here
as Ezekiel 9 explains
00:26:56.81\00:26:59.79
in Jerusalem prior to
the judgment of all people.
00:26:59.80\00:27:04.60
And this makes sense
John, if we think about it
00:27:05.85\00:27:08.68
God does need
to execute judgment
00:27:08.69\00:27:11.97
before He seals
those to finish the work.
00:27:11.98\00:27:16.73
So there's got to be a
judgment before sealing
00:27:16.74\00:27:18.96
because once you
sealed, you are judged,
00:27:18.97\00:27:21.73
I mean that's it.
00:27:21.74\00:27:23.04
You' re sealed
in the righteousness
00:27:23.05\00:27:25.22
and the
salvation of Jesus Christ
00:27:25.23\00:27:27.22
and you've sealed for a specific
purpose of finishing the work.
00:27:27.23\00:27:30.59
And so we're finding
this that God needs to send
00:27:30.60\00:27:33.11
people into His
house, into Jerusalem,
00:27:33.12\00:27:36.81
into His church, and
meet out a judgment there
00:27:36.82\00:27:40.65
before He can get those
ready before He seals those
00:27:40.66\00:27:45.32
for the work outside on
the worldwide global scale.
00:27:45.33\00:27:49.13
That's right,
that's the good point,
00:27:49.14\00:27:52.68
capping it off, 1st Peter
4:17, "For the time has come
00:27:52.69\00:27:56.91
"for judgment to
begin at the house of God,
00:27:56.92\00:28:00.62
"and if it begins with us first,
00:28:00.63\00:28:02.63
"what will the
be the end of those
00:28:02.64\00:28:03.92
who do not obey
the gospel of God?"
00:28:03.93\00:28:06.74
Now verse 18, "If the
righteous one is scarcely saved,
00:28:06.75\00:28:11.25
where will the ungodly
and the sinner appear?"
00:28:11.26\00:28:16.34
1st Peter 4:17 and 18.
00:28:16.35\00:28:18.38
Wow, is a very good topic,
you know because Ezekiel 9
00:28:18.39\00:28:20.85
is often used to
frighten people, when in fact,
00:28:20.86\00:28:23.70
if you are in a saving
relationship with Jesus,
00:28:23.71\00:28:25.96
there is no fear,
perfect love cast out fear,
00:28:25.97\00:28:28.36
you are walking in
Christ, you don't walk around,
00:28:28.37\00:28:30.35
oh, am I going
to be slaughtered?
00:28:30.36\00:28:31.85
That's the term
that's being used
00:28:31.86\00:28:32.95
by some exterior
groups of the church.
00:28:32.96\00:28:35.43
The slaughter they
call it, well, in fact,
00:28:35.44\00:28:37.95
it is a terrible
slaughter but not for those
00:28:37.96\00:28:40.12
who are in Christ Jesus,
not for those who are covered
00:28:40.13\00:28:43.17
and sealed by His righteousness.
00:28:43.18\00:28:45.39
No, I might also add that
there is connection to sighing
00:28:45.40\00:28:47.80
and crying over the
abominations done with in it,
00:28:47.81\00:28:50.83
there's a connection to that.
00:28:50.84\00:28:53.50
With that statement
too, the antitypical
00:28:53.51\00:28:57.19
experience of
the Day of Atonement.
00:28:57.20\00:29:01.81
Because we talk about those who
are sorrowful for their sins,
00:29:01.82\00:29:05.77
who want to do all
they can to make sure
00:29:05.78\00:29:07.96
that their sins are
confessed and repented of,
00:29:07.97\00:29:11.50
and so there's
this, this picture,
00:29:11.51\00:29:14.97
you know of being sorrowful
for the sin that is in the land.
00:29:14.98\00:29:18.67
And this it seems like, it's
at the end of the antitypical
00:29:18.68\00:29:22.19
Day of Atonement
where judgment is concluding
00:29:22.20\00:29:24.69
with at least the house of God.
00:29:24.70\00:29:27.14
That's right,
very good point anyway.
00:29:27.15\00:29:28.58
Thank you very much.
00:29:28.59\00:29:30.18
Well we gonna to
transit this into our program,
00:29:30.19\00:29:33.25
that is into our Bible
topic a study for today,
00:29:33.26\00:29:36.88
which is in
fact, purity and power,
00:29:36.89\00:29:39.77
and it's a
wonderful folder actually,
00:29:39.78\00:29:43.61
but we are using
this as a springboard,
00:29:43.62\00:29:46.06
so if anybody
who watched just now
00:29:46.07\00:29:47.84
and heard our questions,
if anybody has any questions,
00:29:47.85\00:29:51.06
so you'd like to send us comment
about what we talked about,
00:29:51.07\00:29:53.60
send them to
Housecalls@3abn.org,
00:29:53.61\00:29:56.03
that's housecall@3abn.org.
00:29:56.04\00:29:58.99
And we promiseto
get back to you on that.
00:29:59.00\00:29:59.99
And as you see, we
can only get through about
00:30:01.53\00:30:05.64
two or three
questions per program
00:30:05.65\00:30:07.28
because we wanna do them justice
00:30:07.29\00:30:09.27
and answer them accordingly
so that your... your time
00:30:09.28\00:30:15.20
that you take
them to send them to us
00:30:15.21\00:30:16.68
can be worthwhile.
00:30:16.69\00:30:18.35
I think we ended last program
00:30:18.36\00:30:20.79
with comments with Romans six,
00:30:21.79\00:30:24.83
the comments of making sure
that old man is dead and buried.
00:30:24.84\00:30:29.24
And living in the
newness of life, didn't we?
00:30:30.93\00:30:33.73
We sure as a matter of
fact, I liked that point,
00:30:33.74\00:30:36.01
we don't know the
condition were born in,
00:30:36.02\00:30:39.39
when we are born we are
really in a terrible condition
00:30:39.40\00:30:42.38
many of us don't
know how bad it is.
00:30:42.39\00:30:43.97
But Paul the apostle,
00:30:44.80\00:30:47.54
under the
inspiration of the Holy Spirit
00:30:47.55\00:30:49.82
gives us this picture,
00:30:49.83\00:30:51.67
what so funny about
this, the terminology he uses,
00:30:53.22\00:30:55.72
because growing up.
00:30:55.73\00:30:56.97
In New York city,
00:30:58.25\00:30:59.87
people often would
refer to somebody's husband
00:30:59.88\00:31:01.53
as your old man
or their boy friend,
00:31:01.54\00:31:02.83
how's your old man doing?
And so in that same question,
00:31:02.84\00:31:06.85
we gonna keep that
frame work for those of you,
00:31:06.86\00:31:09.67
who have heard that term before,
00:31:09.68\00:31:11.04
keep that framework together
as John follows us through.
00:31:11.05\00:31:14.90
Remember Baptism
is first death to sin,
00:31:14.91\00:31:18.88
and also resurrection to
walk in the newness of life,
00:31:18.89\00:31:22.31
that life has to
come from some where else.
00:31:22.32\00:31:24.73
But actually
what was put to death?
00:31:24.74\00:31:26.98
Yeah, let's read verses 6 and 7.
00:31:26.99\00:31:29.64
okay, go ahead.
00:31:29.65\00:31:30.62
Knowing this that our old
man was crucified with Him,
00:31:30.63\00:31:34.46
that the body of sin
might be done away with,
00:31:34.47\00:31:37.68
there we should no
longer be slaves of sin.
00:31:37.69\00:31:41.15
For He who has died
has been freed from sin.
00:31:41.87\00:31:45.38
Praise the Lord for that,
00:31:46.60\00:31:47.57
I mean that is a
wonderful promise there
00:31:47.58\00:31:49.82
that when we die to our sin,
we're actually free from sin.
00:31:49.83\00:31:54.54
And you know
there's a lot in this text.
00:31:54.55\00:31:57.59
Well, here's one
thing that we take from this
00:31:58.99\00:32:01.05
and that is
before we met Christ,
00:32:01.06\00:32:05.32
before we died to sin,
00:32:05.33\00:32:07.15
before we had the opportunity
00:32:07.16\00:32:08.94
through Baptism
to express our desire
00:32:08.95\00:32:11.66
to follow Christ with
our life from that point on.
00:32:11.67\00:32:14.43
We were controlled
by the power of sin,
00:32:14.44\00:32:17.14
now a lot of people would say,
00:32:17.15\00:32:18.71
you know, I don't
want to be a Christian,
00:32:18.72\00:32:22.25
I just want to live my own life.
00:32:22.26\00:32:23.71
And what they don't realize
is that there is no choice
00:32:24.89\00:32:27.20
that it I want
to live my own life,
00:32:27.21\00:32:29.28
you either control
by the power of sin,
00:32:29.29\00:32:32.29
or you control by the
power of the Holy Spirit,
00:32:32.30\00:32:35.87
and Christ living in your life,
00:32:35.88\00:32:37.26
and all though we can
choose one or the other
00:32:38.49\00:32:41.02
that's the freedom of choice.
00:32:41.03\00:32:42.18
There is a power
00:32:43.96\00:32:45.20
that comes from within
that is either one or the other,
00:32:45.21\00:32:48.60
and we, it is up to us to
choose what we want to follow,
00:32:48.61\00:32:52.94
are we
following the power of sin
00:32:52.95\00:32:54.74
that leads us to do things
00:32:54.75\00:32:56.07
that are contrary
to God and His law,
00:32:56.08\00:32:57.96
or we are living into
the power of the Holy Spirit,
00:32:58.54\00:33:00.72
the power of Christ.
00:33:00.73\00:33:01.94
I find it very
interesting to John that,
00:33:01.95\00:33:03.98
and we can distinguish
this here for just a moment,
00:33:03.99\00:33:07.59
there's a Baptism by
immersion into water,
00:33:07.60\00:33:11.99
and there is
Baptism by the Holy Spirit.
00:33:12.00\00:33:15.19
And what we can talk about
the differences is to whether
00:33:16.53\00:33:19.57
they happen at the same time
00:33:19.58\00:33:21.05
or whether they
happen at different times.
00:33:21.06\00:33:22.99
I think that the key point
here is that the Holy Spirit
00:33:23.00\00:33:27.78
is essential to
Baptism and in it's entirety.
00:33:27.79\00:33:31.70
You can't just be
baptized by the water
00:33:32.56\00:33:34.76
and then not be
filled by the Holy Spirit,
00:33:34.77\00:33:37.37
you have to be baptized by both.
00:33:37.38\00:33:39.19
And as the ongoing in filling
00:33:40.42\00:33:42.14
Baptism of the Holy
Spirit in your life,
00:33:42.15\00:33:44.50
they mix even the Baptism by
water by immersion effectual.
00:33:44.51\00:33:48.44
Very good point.
00:33:48.45\00:33:50.15
That allows that
first Baptism into Christ
00:33:50.16\00:33:54.63
to have it's full effect.
00:33:54.64\00:33:56.50
The Baptism of the Holy Spirit
00:33:56.51\00:33:58.35
needs to
continually occur in life.
00:33:58.36\00:34:00.06
You know, that's
very well put John,
00:34:00.07\00:34:02.79
the reason is I'm
going to use this example,
00:34:02.80\00:34:05.65
you have heard of
the energizer bunny,
00:34:05.66\00:34:08.03
this guy would continue to...
00:34:08.04\00:34:11.63
what is the
entire effect of that
00:34:13.33\00:34:15.93
commercial is the fact
that if the battery die,
00:34:15.94\00:34:18.64
so does the bunny,
or, the power goes off,
00:34:18.65\00:34:21.85
if the energizer bunny doesn't
have the copper type battery,
00:34:21.86\00:34:25.27
or the energizer
battery inside them,
00:34:25.28\00:34:27.55
that's the different
function that's Duracell,
00:34:27.56\00:34:29.21
now I got a mixed up
but the whole point of view.
00:34:29.22\00:34:31.27
Unless there is
power within you,
00:34:31.28\00:34:33.14
Unless there is a
power at work in you,
00:34:33.15\00:34:35.41
Unless there is a
power at work in you.
00:34:35.42\00:34:38.06
you have no power and no ability
00:34:38.07\00:34:40.99
to live a Christ
centered righteous life.
00:34:41.00\00:34:43.66
I am going to go back to that
00:34:43.67\00:34:44.73
and then I am going
to turn the Ephesians 4,
00:34:44.74\00:34:46.57
because
Ephesians 4 builds on this,
00:34:46.58\00:34:48.80
notice what happens.
00:34:48.81\00:34:50.23
I'm going to verse 6,
knowing this Romans 6:6:
00:34:50.24\00:34:53.43
"Knowing this that our
old-man was crucified."
00:34:53.44\00:34:57.16
So right away Baptism is death,
00:34:57.17\00:34:59.50
death of what? Our old man.
00:34:59.51\00:35:02.52
Now why is our old
man needing to be dead?
00:35:02.53\00:35:05.71
Okay, I am going to
jump very short now,
00:35:05.72\00:35:08.39
to Romans 7 okay,
00:35:08.40\00:35:11.42
but then we are
going to go Ephesians 4.
00:35:11.43\00:35:14.53
Break this down,
because keep this in mind,
00:35:14.54\00:35:17.22
picture a wedding,
00:35:17.23\00:35:18.89
when sin entered the world,
00:35:21.80\00:35:24.34
let me put the frame work
here when sin entered the world,
00:35:24.35\00:35:27.59
Jesus said to Eve,
00:35:28.56\00:35:30.87
your desire shall
be for your husband,
00:35:31.77\00:35:35.24
and he'll rule over you.
00:35:35.25\00:35:37.76
What that in an essence meant,
00:35:37.77\00:35:40.28
that was not
talking about slavery
00:35:40.29\00:35:41.77
but he was in essence saying,
00:35:41.78\00:35:43.27
that Eve is subject now to
the authority of her husband.
00:35:43.28\00:35:46.30
In the same way
when you look at the way
00:35:46.98\00:35:48.55
the Bible describes marriage,
00:35:48.56\00:35:50.01
Christ is the
head of the church,
00:35:50.02\00:35:52.33
the husband is
the head of the wife.
00:35:52.34\00:35:54.42
So there's
somebody over the woman,
00:35:54.43\00:35:56.55
in the same way the
church is the woman,
00:35:56.56\00:35:58.80
okay, in the relationship
of who is in control
00:35:58.81\00:36:02.42
is the real issue here.
00:36:02.43\00:36:04.34
Now when you
think about the marriage
00:36:04.35\00:36:05.90
in the biblical sense,
00:36:05.91\00:36:06.94
this is unless
that a husband dies,
00:36:06.95\00:36:09.72
that woman can't really
be married to somebody else.
00:36:10.31\00:36:13.26
So her old man has to die
00:36:13.27\00:36:15.04
in order for her to be free now
to be married to somebody else.
00:36:15.05\00:36:18.85
So when that old
nature is put to death,
00:36:18.86\00:36:21.70
this is Baptism,
00:36:21.71\00:36:22.76
when we go out in
the pool, we are saying,
00:36:22.77\00:36:25.44
I want that old
man that ruled me
00:36:25.45\00:36:27.31
that made me do
all these bad things,
00:36:27.32\00:36:29.07
bad thoughts, bad habits,
00:36:29.08\00:36:30.76
bad attitudes,
unruly, rebellious,
00:36:30.77\00:36:33.83
I want that man
to be put to death.
00:36:33.84\00:36:36.20
But Jesus says,
00:36:36.21\00:36:37.75
okay, here's how
is gonna be done,
00:36:37.76\00:36:39.77
he's got to be buried, Baptism.
00:36:39.78\00:36:42.43
But in order for you now to
have the power that you desire
00:36:43.59\00:36:45.81
you have to come
out to that grave
00:36:45.82\00:36:47.12
as you just
pointed out the Holy Spirit
00:36:47.13\00:36:48.58
has to come in now
and reside on the in side
00:36:48.59\00:36:51.00
and that means the
newness of life in Christ.
00:36:51.01\00:36:53.34
And it's resurrection power.
00:36:53.35\00:36:55.04
Resurrection power, exactly,
not just the power of Baptism,
00:36:55.05\00:36:59.43
but the power of
the Resurrection,
00:36:59.44\00:37:01.08
so we are walking
in resurrection power.
00:37:01.09\00:37:02.85
But now john
walk us through this
00:37:02.86\00:37:04.65
and we gonna stop along
the way and make some comments,
00:37:04.66\00:37:06.80
Romans Chapter 7,
really gives us a picture
00:37:06.81\00:37:09.51
an exploded view of
what's actually being
00:37:09.52\00:37:12.94
talked about by
Paul in Romans Chapter 6.
00:37:12.95\00:37:15.30
He's talking
about the old man now,
00:37:15.31\00:37:17.01
how he needs to die.
00:37:17.02\00:37:18.21
Let's look at it.
00:37:18.22\00:37:19.45
Start with
verse... start with verse 1,
00:37:20.83\00:37:24.07
Romans 7 verse 1,
00:37:24.08\00:37:25.51
and then we gonna
go down to verse 6.
00:37:25.52\00:37:27.43
"Do you not know brother
00:37:27.44\00:37:29.53
for I speak to
those who know the law,
00:37:29.54\00:37:31.84
that the law has
demonian over a man,
00:37:31.85\00:37:33.90
as long as he lives."
00:37:33.91\00:37:34.88
Now this is funny,
00:37:34.89\00:37:36.68
people have used
that verse John to say,
00:37:36.69\00:37:38.30
that's the reason why,
00:37:38.31\00:37:39.28
when we are no longer
unto the law were free,
00:37:39.29\00:37:41.88
that's not what he's
talking about, keep going.
00:37:41.89\00:37:44.37
"For the woman who has a
husband is bound by the law
00:37:45.09\00:37:48.10
to her husband
as long as he lives,
00:37:48.11\00:37:50.34
but if the husband dies,
00:37:50.35\00:37:51.95
she is released from
the law of her husband."
00:37:51.96\00:37:54.54
Okay, notice the
law of her husband,
00:37:54.55\00:37:57.72
see this is not
talking about the law of God,
00:37:57.73\00:38:00.52
this is talking about
the law of her husband.
00:38:00.53\00:38:03.42
See the freedom that come here,
00:38:03.43\00:38:06.19
the woman, the law that
is keeping this woman in,
00:38:06.20\00:38:09.46
in bondage, or in subjection
is the law of her husband,
00:38:09.47\00:38:13.35
and get this in mind.
00:38:13.36\00:38:14.81
And her husband is prior to
the husband in being Christ.
00:38:14.82\00:38:17.95
Exactly.
00:38:17.96\00:38:19.11
It's the old man
sin is the husband.
00:38:19.12\00:38:21.34
Okay, the nature,
and what happens is,
00:38:21.35\00:38:23.93
lot of people
don't see this nature,
00:38:23.94\00:38:25.77
let's look at
what this law states.
00:38:25.78\00:38:28.07
I want you to see this law.
00:38:28.08\00:38:29.27
And remember the law of
gravity, it can't be violated.
00:38:29.28\00:38:32.53
You can think you've violated,
00:38:32.54\00:38:34.15
jump of the 100 storey building
00:38:34.16\00:38:35.57
for 99 storeys,
you'll be smiling,
00:38:35.58\00:38:37.64
what does that mean,
00:38:37.65\00:38:39.87
the 100th one
you won't be smiling,
00:38:39.93\00:38:41.68
so don't try it.
00:38:41.69\00:38:43.11
There are these storeys anyway,
00:38:43.12\00:38:44.47
you won't even crack the
smile hardly until last four.
00:38:44.48\00:38:47.14
And last four, you'll know,
00:38:48.16\00:38:49.96
okay, gravity
is still in effect.
00:38:49.97\00:38:52.23
Now I said that,
I wanna stop along
00:38:52.24\00:38:55.27
and this is some
injection, this is good stuff.
00:38:55.28\00:38:58.21
Go with me to Matthew 7,
00:38:58.22\00:38:59.97
we gonna come
back here to Romans 7.
00:38:59.98\00:39:02.45
But go with me to Matthew
7, I want you to see something,
00:39:02.46\00:39:04.60
I am putting all
these pieces of paper
00:39:04.61\00:39:07.10
in my Bible to remember,
00:39:07.11\00:39:09.52
I'm saying, like my good friend
00:39:09.53\00:39:11.04
in the New York to
remember where I was.
00:39:11.05\00:39:13.51
Look at the Matthew 7
now, we gonna see this law,
00:39:13.52\00:39:15.96
this law is gonna be
really delineate here.
00:39:15.97\00:39:19.14
And what's so nice
about what we gonna see here,
00:39:19.15\00:39:22.15
okay, here we are,
00:39:22.16\00:39:23.21
is this law is not a law
00:39:24.09\00:39:27.43
that has ifs ands or buts in it.
00:39:27.44\00:39:30.82
It's a definitive law,
00:39:30.83\00:39:32.33
and this law governs who we are
00:39:32.34\00:39:35.74
and who we can't be, all right.
00:39:35.75\00:39:38.69
Look at the law
here, Matthew Chapter 7:
00:39:38.70\00:39:41.27
And we are gonna start
00:39:41.28\00:39:42.74
with verse 16, verse 16,
00:39:44.38\00:39:48.34
and we are going
to go down to verse.
00:39:48.35\00:39:50.12
Actually the verse
that we want to read
00:39:51.32\00:39:52.65
our verse 16 down to
verse 19 or verse 20.
00:39:52.66\00:39:57.00
Okay John, you have
that, start with verse 16.
00:39:57.01\00:39:59.61
"You will know
them by their fruits,
00:39:59.88\00:40:01.77
do men get their
grapes for from thorn bushes
00:40:01.78\00:40:04.52
or figs from thistles, if so.
00:40:04.53\00:40:06.94
No, no even so, even, did I say,
what did I say, you say if so,
00:40:06.95\00:40:11.84
I don't know what
wrong with my reading today.
00:40:11.85\00:40:13.49
I don't know.
00:40:13.50\00:40:14.47
Probably I need the reading
glasses like you have on.
00:40:14.48\00:40:17.24
Even so every good
tree bears good fruit
00:40:17.25\00:40:19.93
but a bad tree bears a
bad fruit. And verse 18.
00:40:19.94\00:40:22.99
"A good tree
cannot bear bad fruit,
00:40:23.00\00:40:26.24
and what can't a bad
tree bear a good fruit."
00:40:26.25\00:40:28.54
Okay, notice
that there's a can't,
00:40:28.55\00:40:30.37
can't in both the verses,
00:40:30.38\00:40:33.26
a bad tree cannot
bear a good fruit,
00:40:33.27\00:40:37.32
a good tree
cannot bear bad fruit,
00:40:37.33\00:40:42.05
all right, that's the fact.
00:40:42.06\00:40:43.55
So we get now, so
when a person is married,
00:40:43.56\00:40:47.15
so verse 20 says,
00:40:47.16\00:40:48.13
therefore by their
fruits you'll know them.
00:40:48.14\00:40:50.78
Is it any wonder, let's
go back to Romans 7 now,
00:40:50.79\00:40:53.21
is it any wonder that
the Bible talked about
00:40:53.22\00:40:55.22
the fruit of the spirit.
00:40:55.23\00:40:57.25
Now get this, when this
woman kills that old man.
00:40:57.26\00:41:01.69
And I got to
use the example now,
00:41:01.70\00:41:03.33
when that old
man is put to death,
00:41:03.34\00:41:05.53
when that old
nature is put to death.
00:41:05.54\00:41:07.03
She's no longer
bound by his law,
00:41:07.04\00:41:09.88
which means the bad
tree. He's the bad tree.
00:41:09.89\00:41:14.07
Would we have to put to
death a good tree? Yes, or no.
00:41:14.08\00:41:17.70
would we have to put
to death a good tree? No.
00:41:17.71\00:41:20.01
Exactly, which one
do we want to put it?
00:41:20.02\00:41:22.03
The bad one,
okay, so this bad tree
00:41:22.04\00:41:23.91
that's put to death, no
longer has dominion over me
00:41:23.92\00:41:29.27
because that husband
that old nature is dead.
00:41:29.28\00:41:33.10
And who is that old
nature? What's it's name?
00:41:33.11\00:41:36.45
First Corinthians 15
verse 22: as in Adam all die,
00:41:36.46\00:41:42.41
that's the old man Adam.
00:41:42.42\00:41:45.53
Who is the new man
we'll tell you in a moment.
00:41:45.54\00:41:47.76
Now let's finish up Roman 7.
00:41:47.77\00:41:49.71
This is really
good, this is about
00:41:49.72\00:41:51.04
back to the spirit
about, this about not how you
00:41:51.05\00:41:53.24
are baptized but
what actually happens,
00:41:53.25\00:41:55.12
now let's go to the
Romans Chapter 7 and verse 3,
00:41:55.13\00:41:59.91
this is really
vitally important.
00:41:59.92\00:42:02.27
Go about verse
2. We just read 2.
00:42:02.28\00:42:05.02
Okay. Yeah verse 3: "So
then if while her husband
00:42:05.03\00:42:08.47
lives she marries another man,
she would be called adulteress.
00:42:08.48\00:42:12.54
But if her husband die
she is free from that law,
00:42:12.55\00:42:16.73
so that she is no adulteress
00:42:16.74\00:42:18.74
though she is
married to another man."
00:42:18.75\00:42:20.41
Okay, stop, stop, stop.
00:42:20.42\00:42:24.03
The old man will
say you are killing me.
00:42:24.04\00:42:25.98
But watch what's happening
now, for those who are not yet
00:42:25.99\00:42:31.46
divorced from that old nature,
for those who are not yet
00:42:31.47\00:42:35.38
baptized haven't
killed that old nature.
00:42:35.39\00:42:39.27
So here's the thing
for those who have not put
00:42:39.28\00:42:41.33
that old nature to death
through Baptism, it still alive.
00:42:41.34\00:42:46.25
But here's the problem
John, there are some people
00:42:46.26\00:42:49.48
that have not been
baptized who claim to be married
00:42:49.49\00:42:54.64
to Christ what is
that called? Adultery.
00:42:54.65\00:42:58.85
Adultery, the old man says,
wait a minute, wait a minute,
00:42:58.86\00:43:02.50
you are still my
wife, how could you claimed
00:43:02.51\00:43:05.39
to be married to Christ?
00:43:05.40\00:43:07.14
So if you say
you are a Christian,
00:43:07.15\00:43:10.28
and you have not
been buried in death,
00:43:10.29\00:43:13.76
buried in Christ,
or baptized into death.
00:43:13.77\00:43:18.79
If that old nature
has been put to death.
00:43:18.80\00:43:20.49
if haven't risen to
the newness of life,
00:43:20.50\00:43:22.92
there is no way, there is no way
that you are married to Christ,
00:43:22.93\00:43:27.30
that's what this is saying.
00:43:27.31\00:43:28.73
You cannot be married to Christ,
00:43:28.74\00:43:30.18
until that old
man is put to death.
00:43:30.19\00:43:32.08
And why what happens,
so look at the rest of it,
00:43:32.09\00:43:34.99
and he says,
unless that man is dead,
00:43:35.00\00:43:37.00
you are nothing
more than an adulterer.
00:43:37.01\00:43:39.60
You are nothing
more than the adulteress.
00:43:39.61\00:43:41.76
You in a un
authorized relationship
00:43:41.77\00:43:46.35
and this what happens.
Verse 4: "Therefore my brethren,
00:43:46.36\00:43:50.43
you also have become dead
to the law through the body
00:43:50.44\00:43:53.36
of Christ that you maybe married
to another to Him who was raised
00:43:53.37\00:43:58.64
from the dead that we
shall bear fruit to God.
00:43:58.65\00:44:01.90
Okay, I am so
excited about this,
00:44:01.91\00:44:04.12
it' s taking me
back to the seminar
00:44:04.13\00:44:05.56
I preached about,
The Adam's family.
00:44:05.57\00:44:11.48
So what happened here,
now what's happening here,
00:44:11.49\00:44:14.12
now when that old man is dead,
00:44:14.13\00:44:16.42
you can't have
his children anymore.
00:44:16.43\00:44:19.15
But what do you have now,
00:44:19.16\00:44:20.17
look at the end of that
verse, verse 4 again John.
00:44:20.18\00:44:23.02
"To Him who was
raised from the dead
00:44:23.03\00:44:26.31
that he shall
bear the fruit to God."
00:44:26.32\00:44:28.13
That He should
bear a fruit to God,
00:44:28.14\00:44:30.07
where is the
fruit? Where is the fruit?
00:44:30.08\00:44:33.44
Where is the fruit?
Galatians, go to the fruit.
00:44:33.45\00:44:37.46
Let's look at the
fruit of the both men,
00:44:37.47\00:44:40.44
this is the key.
00:44:40.45\00:44:41.98
Let's look at the
fruit of both of those men.
00:44:41.99\00:44:44.25
Galatians Chapter
5, and by the way,
00:44:44.26\00:44:48.13
by the way
friends, it's not called
00:44:48.14\00:44:52.08
the fruits of the spirit,
00:44:52.09\00:44:55.86
it' s called the fruit,
00:44:55.87\00:44:58.83
you notice it
says, bear fruit to God
00:44:58.84\00:45:01.66
not bear fruits to
God, he only ate one fruit
00:45:01.67\00:45:07.56
that let us into death.
00:45:07.57\00:45:10.34
By one fruit, the
fruit of righteousness,
00:45:10.35\00:45:13.99
this is the result of
being married to Christ.
00:45:14.00\00:45:16.81
Now John give us
both of those fruit,
00:45:16.82\00:45:19.40
look at Galatians 5
starting with verse 19,
00:45:19.41\00:45:23.78
"This is the fruit of
that old man before we look
00:45:23.79\00:45:28.23
at the fruit of the new man.
00:45:28.24\00:45:30.07
"Now the works of the flesh
are evident which are adultery,
00:45:30.08\00:45:34.22
fornication,
uncleanness, lewdness idolatry,
00:45:34.23\00:45:37.77
sorcery, hatred contentions,
jealously, outburst of wrath,
00:45:37.78\00:45:42.37
selfish ambitions, dissentions,
heresies, envy, murders,
00:45:42.38\00:45:46.63
drunkenness, rivalries and
the like of which I tell you
00:45:46.64\00:45:49.84
before hand just as I
also told you and time passed
00:45:49.85\00:45:53.59
that those who practice
such things will not inherit
00:45:53.60\00:45:56.70
the kingdom of God."
00:45:56.71\00:45:57.74
Okay, in other words,
you are not even in my house,
00:45:57.75\00:45:59.71
you and I are bringing
those practices from the old man
00:45:59.72\00:46:01.98
into this
relationship, there's no way.
00:46:01.99\00:46:04.89
You gonna be in my house
because you are not my bride.
00:46:04.90\00:46:07.68
Okay, but now what happens
when we are dead to that old man
00:46:07.69\00:46:11.77
as Paul says in Romans 7.
00:46:11.78\00:46:13.08
Now we can bear fruit
to God, look at the fruit,
00:46:13.09\00:46:17.87
go ahead verse
22 down to verse 25:
00:46:17.88\00:46:22.04
"But the fruit of the
Spirit is love, joy, peace,
00:46:22.05\00:46:26.25
long suffering,
kindness, goodness,
00:46:26.26\00:46:28.50
faithfulness,
gentleness, self-control.
00:46:28.51\00:46:31.29
Against such there is no
law. Okay, and look verse 24:
00:46:31.30\00:46:36.06
the flesh with its
passions and desires.
00:46:38.60\00:46:41.50
If we live in the Spirit,
let us also walk in the Spirit."
00:46:41.51\00:46:44.87
Isn't that powerful?
00:46:44.88\00:46:47.14
That is so
amazingly powerful because
00:46:47.15\00:46:49.52
what is an essence saying
here, those who are Christ,
00:46:49.53\00:46:52.82
in other words,
if you belong to Him,
00:46:52.83\00:46:54.52
this is what you gonna see.
00:46:54.53\00:46:55.86
Now that really
gets rid of the idea that
00:46:55.87\00:46:58.75
fruits of the
spirits, crucified that term,
00:46:58.76\00:47:01.26
there no fruits
plural of the spirit.
00:47:01.27\00:47:03.59
One fruit brings with it, love,
joy, peace, long suffering.
00:47:03.60\00:47:06.97
Because one fruit Eve
did not eat a different fruit
00:47:06.98\00:47:09.78
for each of these things that
are in verse 19 to verse 21.
00:47:09.79\00:47:12.88
All this things
are in the world today,
00:47:12.89\00:47:15.01
there was no fruit of murder,
fruit of envy, fruit of hatred,
00:47:15.02\00:47:18.73
fruit of
jealously, fruit of lying,
00:47:18.74\00:47:20.83
fruit of
contention, fruit of adultery.
00:47:20.84\00:47:23.03
There was one fruit that brought
all of this into the world.
00:47:23.04\00:47:27.97
See, and it says, by one man,
00:47:27.98\00:47:31.39
by one man, okay, so
now, we are going back to...
00:47:32.64\00:47:37.07
Well, I have a comment on that,
00:47:37.08\00:47:38.26
go for it and I have
opened a door here, you know,
00:47:38.27\00:47:42.10
you and I attended a
pastor's meeting here recently,
00:47:42.11\00:47:44.35
and they had a couple come in.
00:47:44.36\00:47:46.78
And liked one of the
statements that he made,
00:47:46.79\00:47:49.33
I thought it actually caused
me do a lot of thinking here,
00:47:49.34\00:47:53.08
and he talked a
lot about the old man.
00:47:53.09\00:47:56.00
You know, not letting
the old man come up again.
00:47:56.01\00:47:58.71
And you know what
are the evidences of that
00:47:58.72\00:48:01.84
old man trying to get back in.
00:48:01.85\00:48:03.61
Because you know, just
because the old man is dead,
00:48:04.08\00:48:08.36
doesn't mean, it
doesn't want to alive again.
00:48:08.37\00:48:11.65
So, anyway and that's what
of course Romans 7 is all about.
00:48:11.66\00:48:14.94
But one of the
things that he said was,
00:48:14.95\00:48:18.20
and think it just,
it made an impact on me
00:48:18.21\00:48:19.99
that most of the
time, we do our sinning,
00:48:20.00\00:48:25.24
we let the old man come
back and he manifests himself.
00:48:25.25\00:48:29.06
When we know, we are right.
00:48:29.07\00:48:31.64
Okay, I am following you.
00:48:34.09\00:48:36.70
In another words in the
church, there can be a lot,
00:48:37.47\00:48:41.52
there's a lot of people who know
00:48:41.53\00:48:43.50
how the church would
handle certain matters.
00:48:43.51\00:48:46.37
Who know how
people should behave,
00:48:46.38\00:48:49.67
who know how
with the Bible says,
00:48:49.68\00:48:52.32
on certain subjects and
people aren't following it,
00:48:52.33\00:48:54.83
they need to follow it.
00:48:54.84\00:48:56.92
There are people who
have given themselves
00:48:56.93\00:48:59.14
to the perfecting of the saints.
00:48:59.15\00:49:01.46
And they do it in the
spirit of the old man.
00:49:01.47\00:49:06.07
They are right
in their theology,
00:49:06.08\00:49:10.97
they are right,
in their assessment
00:49:10.98\00:49:15.56
of maybe characters in
the church and situations,
00:49:15.57\00:49:19.66
they become wrong
because the old man comes up,
00:49:19.67\00:49:23.85
and the spirit in
which they come forward
00:49:23.86\00:49:26.66
to deal with certain situations
or talk with individuals
00:49:26.67\00:49:29.97
or whatever it maybe,
00:49:29.98\00:49:32.72
it's the old man
that they are doing it.
00:49:32.73\00:49:35.32
And listen to this,
"This old man that they
00:49:35.33\00:49:38.91
are doing it in righteousness
00:49:38.92\00:49:40.59
they think includes,
00:49:40.60\00:49:44.05
hatred, contentions, jealously,
00:49:45.62\00:49:51.13
outburst,
selfish ambitions, envy.
00:49:51.14\00:49:56.51
I'm picking up the
ones that are too bad,
00:49:57.79\00:50:00.12
can you hear me
what I am saying?
00:50:00.13\00:50:01.85
The ones that are so
bad, but do you know what?
00:50:01.86\00:50:05.77
They are in the
church, and they often,
00:50:05.78\00:50:07.61
they often come from those
who assert they being right.
00:50:07.62\00:50:12.58
In a given situation,
were they be theologically,
00:50:12.59\00:50:15.24
were it be lifestyle
issues, I don't care what it is,
00:50:15.25\00:50:18.41
you hear what I am
saying, lifestyle issues.
00:50:18.42\00:50:21.21
I mean sometimes and
this is the difficult thing
00:50:21.22\00:50:24.18
of being a pastor is that
even though you are right,
00:50:24.19\00:50:27.42
you cannot let the
old man come back up
00:50:27.43\00:50:29.73
and deal with this situation
because then you'll be in fact,
00:50:29.74\00:50:33.50
unchristian by the
definition of Paul here.
00:50:35.06\00:50:38.97
In you know, whether
or not you are in Christ
00:50:38.98\00:50:42.23
or living in the
spirit of the old man sin.
00:50:42.24\00:50:45.11
That's right, you
could be right theologically
00:50:45.12\00:50:46.70
but so wrong because the
attitude that you display
00:50:46.71\00:50:49.80
when it comes to
dealing with your brother
00:50:49.81\00:50:51.19
and your sister.
00:50:51.20\00:50:52.24
And that's what
you are pointing out.
00:50:52.25\00:50:53.35
A lot of people just to say,
well, I have the right diet,
00:50:53.36\00:50:56.01
I have the right day of
worship, I have the right this
00:50:56.02\00:50:59.11
and right that, and right that.
00:50:59.12\00:51:00.25
But the spirit is all saying,
hey, what are you jealous about,
00:51:00.26\00:51:03.96
what is this out burst of wrath,
00:51:03.97\00:51:05.66
what is this back biting,
and God's list could go on
00:51:05.67\00:51:08.84
and on and on and on.
Paul is just the abridges
00:51:08.85\00:51:11.05
the list right there in Romans.
00:51:11.06\00:51:12.76
I mean in Galatians, he
abridges the list but you can go
00:51:12.77\00:51:15.72
to the other parts of the Bible
and it talks about other things
00:51:15.73\00:51:20.24
that are dark
works of the flesh.
00:51:20.25\00:51:22.03
Even coming home after Sabbath
and in the group of friends
00:51:22.04\00:51:26.58
you pull together the
criticism of the pastor message.
00:51:26.59\00:51:29.01
Oh, yeah, okay, back biting.
I mean that little thing,
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we don't realize,
you know, you maybe
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writing some elements of
that, but that's very wrong
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to be critical of it.
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Because criticism
is not God's design
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or plan for your life.
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It never can
be, it never can be.
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But you notice
what's happening John,
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all of this is
happening because that person
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is still married to the old man.
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And this is the
danger now, let me go it
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and I have pointed out one
of the dangers a moment ago,
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one is saying I
am married to Christ,
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when in fact, I even
haven' t been baptized.
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But here's even
more diabolical setting,
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saying that I am
well, I am not saying,
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but I am baptized but I
am displaying the behavior
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of the old man I be married.
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That's even as
that's as just diabolical,
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I am asserting my
Baptism, I am saying,
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I am in Christ,
but I am displaying
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all the characteristics
that don't associate
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with the new
man I am married to.
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But in Paul interweaves these
teaching all through his word,
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all through the Bible, not
his but through God's word.
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Notice how he talks
about this and I mentioned
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a moment ago that in
1st Corinthians 15 verse 22
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the Bible says,
as an Adam all die,
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even so in Christ
shall all be made alive,
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all be made alive.
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In other words, if
you have and living,
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thriving
relationship with Christ,
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you got to be in Him.
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That where the
new creation comes
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in 2nd Corinthian 5 verse 17.
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But now John read
this for us go to Romans 5
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because Paul
pads Romans Chapter 6
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with all the
evidences of why we need Christ
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so badly in our walk.
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And I want you to
read the verses here,
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talking about these two men,
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first of all read
Romans 5 and verse 12:
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Let's look at
what the condition is,
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this is what the
old man has done for us.
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"Therefore just as
through one man's sin entered
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the world and death through sin,
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and thus death spread to
all men because all sinned.
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Exactly.
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For into the laws sin
is in the world but sin
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is not imputed
when there is no law.
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Okay. Nevertheless death reigned
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from Adam to Moses, even
over those who had not sinned
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according to the likeness
of the transgression of Adam
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who is a type of
him who was to come."
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Okay, in another words,
what's it's being said here,
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even though they
did'nt do anything like Adam
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did they are effected by Adam.
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Because it's the
sin that reigns in them,
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it's his nature that they have.
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They didn't do anything
wrong, so why I am under sin
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because you are just like
your father, as an Adam, all die
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In 1st Corinthian 15 verse 22
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But now it's gonna transgression
to show the blessing
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of being in Christ, and
I want to try to go ahead
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and jump right to it,
look at verse 17 start there.
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For if by one man's offence
death reigned through one;
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much more those who
receive abundance of grace
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and of the gift of
righteousness will reign in life
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through the one, Jesus Christ.
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Look at the
comparison verse 18 again
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Therefore as through one
man's offence judgment came
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to all men
resulting in condemnation;
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even so through one
man's righteous act,
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the free gift came
to all men resulting
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in justification of life.
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Beautiful again, and in verse 19
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For as by one man's disobedience
many were made sinners,
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so also by one man's obedience
many will be made righteous.
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For by one man's disobedience
many were made sinners.
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Disobedience. Yes.
So also by one man's,
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and notice in your Bible,
man's the sect of different men,
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two different men.
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That old man is the one
that was disobedient and notice,
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and let's go down to verse
20 and 21 and end it there.
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"Moreover the law entered,
that the offence might abound.
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But where sin abounded,
grace abounded much more.
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So that as sin reigned in
death, even so might grace reign
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through
righteousness to eternal life
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through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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It's all about Jesus,
so what he says in verse,
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moreover the law
entered that sin might abound
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that the offence might
abound, the law entered
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that the offence might abound.
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For those who say
they don't need God's law,
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they need God's law because
they don't know how offence
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a sin is without God's law.
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It makes it clear all the
parameters of a righteous life
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are outlined there.
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And if you are not in the
harmony with these parameters
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it is offence to the God.
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But the fillip side of
that it says, when you accept
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the fact that your life
is offensive without Christ,
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now you see your need of Christ.
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In Baptism put that old man
to death so the new man Christ
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could reign in your life.
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And that's why I think
alternately what the Lord
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wants is to baptize,
to have us be baptized
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in our decision
to die at the old man
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and to be raised
in the resurrection
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of the new life in Christ.
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To coincide with the
Baptism of the Holy Sprit.
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Because where you come
up the resurrection power
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that is given to you through
the Baptism of the Holy Spirit
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now conducts your life
as you walk in the Spirit
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which is just a continuation
of the original Baptism
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that you had from the beginning.
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You know one of
the verses that are,
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I'll just read real
fast and I get real quick
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before we end this program.
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I am reading from Matthew
3:11 John the Baptist saying,
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"I indeed baptize you
with water unto repentance
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that is you desire to turn from
your old man to the new man,
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repentance but he who is
coming after me is mightier
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than I who says I am
not whether to carry,
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he'll baptize you with
the Holy Spirit, and fire.
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That's right, Romans
verse 6 Chapter 6 verse 14
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and this is what
the text actually meant,
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For sin shall not
have a dominion over you,
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for you are not unto
the law but under grace.
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What law is he talking
about, you are not under
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law of your old husband,
you are under now the grace
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of Jesus Christ who
is your new husband.
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Praise God for that.
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we have covered so much,
you've got to rewind this tape
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to understand it all
just to in digest it.
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Thank you John.
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We are now
walking in the spirit,
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the one who baptizes us by
fire and burns all the sin.
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May you be baptized in
the righteousness of Jesus
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and may that walk
with Christ begin today.
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God bless you. Amen.
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