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And I have my
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John Stanton, good
to have you here John.
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Hey, it's great to be here John.
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We can study the word of
God and just open up our hearts
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to our viewers, our listeners.
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That's right. They've
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We have a great topic.
We're in for a great program.
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That's right. And
friends, you know,
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anytime you tune into
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it's probably a very wise thing
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When we travel
around the people say
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well that's my favorite program.
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It doesn't
really matter the age,
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matter of fact just this
last week somebody said to me.
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And when I padding
ourselves in the back
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but somebody said to me
you know whenever comes on,
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if I'm in the kitchen
washing dishes I stop,
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because it is like getting
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And I thought,
praise the Lord for that,
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because they get
their pen and their paper
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and write on the Bible
topics. And another person said,
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Oh! Every time you
come, and I record it.
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And we use it for our Friday
Night Vespers at our church
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and in their study
groups. So, praise God,
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whatever you do
with the information
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that we share with
you, we praise the Lord
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that He is
getting the glory for it.
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But before we go into our topic,
we're going to have prayer.
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So, John, would
you have prayer for us.
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Let's do that. Father in heaven,
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we depend upon you so
much for everything in life.
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But most of all and
first thing I would say,
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we need you to
lead us and guide us
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by the presence
of your Holy Spirit.
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Especially today's
topic is about your spirit,
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so what we just ask
that you would fill us,
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baptize us,
refresh with your spirit.
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And we just pray
that as you do that,
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that you give us the
words, you give us the wisdom,
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to be able to go through your
word and to be able to teach
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and share the things that you
so desperately want us to know
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about you and about your
truth. Thank you, Father,
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for spending this hour with
us, in Jesus name, amen. Amen.
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And, just before we dive
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He is Mr. Techie.
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He is going to start up
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What do you have that
computes, John? You know,
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I've got a couple of
prophecy questions today.
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Hey, I like prophecy. And,
so, there's a couple of them.
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One is in reference to a passage
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from Micah, another
one is from Ezekiel.
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Okay. So, let's take a
look at the first one here.
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Lets see, it's from Jim. Jim,
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thank you for
sending this question in.
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Is the false
prophet of Revelation 19:20,
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the one who
deceives in Micah 2:10.
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And is this the second
beast of Revelation 13:11?
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Is the image of
the beast Babylon
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a false and a
blasphemous church,
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which is in the likeness of
the first beast of Revelation 13
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and supported by the
beast of Revelation 13,
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that's the second one
beginning in verse 11.
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What am I putting
too much in it? Wow.
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That's the catch all
usually, you know, because,
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you know, you
study your prophecy,
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and you study and you deep
sea dive as God calls us to do.
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It really takes a dependence
upon the Holy Spirit to lead
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and to come to
the right conclusions.
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And we don't always get
it right, that's for sure,
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the first time around,
it's just takes continual study.
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That's right. So,
let's first of all,
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read Revelation
19:20, okay, let's go there.
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Revelation 19,
chapter 19 verse 20. Okay.
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Okay. You think they didn't
move Revelation. And I will read
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Here it is. And it says
then a beast was captured,
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and with him the
false prophet who wrought
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signs in his
presence, by which he deceived
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those who received
the mark of the beast,
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and those who
worshiped his image.
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These two were cast alive
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into the lake of fire
burning with brimstone.
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I just have some brief
commentary on that passage.
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The first and second
beasts of Revelation 13
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are seen here as
working together.
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That's right. As an Anti-Christ
unified power to oppose
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the things of Christ and
eventually their judgment
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is they will be cast
alive into the lake of fire.
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That's as much as
we have read there
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from Revelation 19:20. Right.
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So, now as take a
look at Micah Chapter 2,
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Micah 2 verse 10.
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And you know what
I'm gonna read verse 11
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because I think it's necessary
to be able to understand
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what verse 10 is and which
entity is it referring to. Okay.
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It says in Micah 2
verse 10, arise and depart;
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for this is not your
rest, because it is defiled,
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it shall destroy, yes
with utter destruction.
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So there was is a power, John,
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that is working here as far
as this prophecy is depicting.
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That is not God's rest.
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But it shall be
defiled, it is defiled,
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it shall destroy
with an utter destruction.
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It will come with a,
when it says utter destruction
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really referring to the last day
destruction at the end of time.
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But lets look at
verse 11, we need verse 11
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I think to
understand this better.
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If a man should
walk in a false spirit
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and speak a lie, saying,
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I will prophesy to
you of wine and drink,
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even he would be the
prattler of this people.
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So, those that are
being attacked or challenged,
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who are told that
this is not your rest,
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I have a better rest for you.
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It is happening because a
power is lying and deceiving,
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and that lying and
deceiving interesting enough
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John is being described as
prophesying of wine and drink.
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Now, take us, John,
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to a scripture in Revelation
that speaks of an entity
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that is making people drunk
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with the wine of the
wrath of her fornication.
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Now, let me see.
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I think you'll
be able to find one.
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Revelation Chapter 17,
look at what it says here.
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Go ahead. Boy, I tell you.
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You see where
I'm going with this?
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That's right.
Revelation 17, then verse 1,
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then one of the seven angels
who had the seven bowls came
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and talked with me saying to me,
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come I will
show you the judgment
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of the great harlot
who sits on many waters.
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With whom the Kings of the earth
have committed fornication,
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and the inhabitants of
the earth were made drunk
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with the wine
of her fornication.
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Alright. A woman with the wine.
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Now if you, if you see here,
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we know that the
Bible clearly describes
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in Second
Thessalonians Chapter 2.
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That Satan will work through
lying wonders to deceive,
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even Jesus
instructed us in Matthew 24
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be very careful
least we were deceived,
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because if it
were even possibly,
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the elect who are killed
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in the scriptures could be
deceived, it's so deceptive.
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And so here what we're finding
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I think in this scenario
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as we read some
of these texts is,
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in Micah 2 verse 10
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we are seeing an entity that is,
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has not
accepted the kind of rest
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that God wants of his people.
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And what they were doing
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is they were seeking to
prophesy lies and deceit.
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They are talking about
things that are not true
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and I believe that
includes doctrine is not true,
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it's not pure, it's defiled.
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And there are a lot
of things that go into,
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to why this entity is defiled.
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But Revelation describes then
this power as being Babylon,
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that has fallen and
that has made others
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drink of the wine
of her fornication.
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If you look here in Chapter
18 of Revelation verse 2, 18:2,
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we see an angel
appearing with great authority,
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the earth was
illuminated with his glory
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and it says, he cried
mightily with a loud voice,
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saying, Babylon the
Great is fallen, is fallen,
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and has become a
dwelling place of demons,
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a prison for every foul spirit,
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and a cage for every
unclean and hated bird.
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For, notice
unclean, Micah speaks
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of it as being defiled.
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Verse 3, For all
nations have drunk
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of the wine of the
wrath of her fornication.
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There it is that
wine again. That's right.
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The Kings of the earth have
committed fornication with her,
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and the merchants of the
earth had become rich through
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the abundance of her luxury.
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And so then the
command goes in verse 4
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to come out of her my people,
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so you don't share in her
sins and receive of her plagues,
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for her sins have reached heaven
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and God has
remembered her inequities.
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The group that comes,
that calls them to come out,
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is a group described
in Revelation Chapter 14
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as being undefiled. Right.
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And their mouth
is without deceit.
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So clearly we can see
that this entity in Micah 2:10
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is connected to the
powers that Revelation
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is describing both
in Revelation 17, 18
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and then of course the
verse found in 19 verse 20
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is described by the
person asking this question.
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So, are these connected,
are they the same power working.
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I believe yes,
they are. That's right.
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Good, very good
analogy. Prophesy is always such
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an exciting place to
go just to kind of throw
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a little dime in the
water. The dime maybe small
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but the ripple is far reaching,
a little pebble I should say.
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Daniel, you know, you have
one of the repetitive symbols
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in the Bible
talked about in Daniel,
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but also
reintroduced in Revelation,
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the beast having
seven heads and ten horns.
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While in Daniel when this
beast is talked about having
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seven heads and ten
horns, it's also talked about
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three of the horns
being plucked up by the roots,
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meaning they are not
going to grow anymore.
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And one little horn, a
stout little horn coming up
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in its place with
eyes like the eyes of a man
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and a mouth speaking
blasphemous and great things
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against the most
high God. And we know that
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that goes back to the Roman
power the rise of the Pontiffs
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and then whole paganistic
composition right there.
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But then you
have Revelation now,
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with dragon with seven heads
and ten horns is introduced.
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But in Revelation it doesn't say
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any of the horns are
plucked up by the roots.
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Right. It has, as a matter
of fact from Revelation 17,
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I'm throwing this out
there so that some of you
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Bible students could
start studying more deeply.
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Matter of fact it
doesn't say any of those horns
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are plucked up at
all. Look at Revelation 17.
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And I showed this to somebody
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and they've
thought pretty interesting.
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And by the way I'm not coming
up with anything arbitrary.
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But, when you look at
Revelation 17 and verse 10
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and the ten horns
which you saw are ten kings
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who have received
no Kingdom as yet.
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But they received
authority for one hour as Kings
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with the beasts.
Verse 12. And then verse 12,
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that's verse 12.
And then verse 16,
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And the ten horns
which you saw on the beast,
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these will hate the harlot,
make her desolate and naked,
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eat her flesh and
burn her with fire.
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Now on what beast in
Revelation the first time
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that that beast with seven heads
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and ten horns has introduced,
is in Revelation Chapter 12.
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And it talks about that
beast not as just a beast
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but it gives a
definition to that beast.
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And look at the
definition it gives.
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In verse 3 of
Revelation Chapter 12,
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And another sign
appeared in heaven,
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behold a great fiery red dragon,
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having seven
heads and ten horns,
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and seven diadems
or crowns on his heads.
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So when it's introduced there,
this beast that's gonna be
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referred to over and over in
Revelation having seven heads
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and ten horns is defined
clearly in not only that verse
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but verse 9 nails it down.
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So the great
dragon was cast out.
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That serpent of
old called the devil
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and Satan who
deceives the whole world.
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He was cast to the earth and his
angels were cast out with him.
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So now, wherever
you start seeing this
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and test this as you
do this, as you go through
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Revelation from this
point on and by the way John,
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there are certain intersections
in Revelation where symbols
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are introduced and defined.
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And it's very important
that once they are introduced
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and defined that we don't
try to redefine them later on.
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Is like saying me John Stanton,
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he is 6'9.5, 6'10 with
shoes on. He plays basketball,
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he is living in California,
his wife's name is Rochelle.
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I'm giving all these details.
But now I just say John Stanton,
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I know who exactly
who we're talking about,
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yeah the tall guys. Yeah,
all those facts are there.
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So, not only is he
introduced for the first time
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in Revelation
Chapter 12 and verse 3 and 9
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but is given a name, the
dragon that serpent of old
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called the Devil, and Satan.
And so when you go through
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Revelation 12 and you
see the dragon, the dragon.
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But now, but now,
let's look at this again.
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And this is the reason
why it's sso widely important.
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Look at chapter 13, and I
stood on the sand of the sea,
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and I saw a beast
rising up out of the sea,
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having seven
heads and ten horns,
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and on his horns ten crowns,
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and on his heads
a blasphemous name.
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Alright. Now you
go to Revelation 17,
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you see the same
thing again. Okay.
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But the angel
in Revelation 17:7,
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but the angel said to
me, why do you marvel?
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I will tell you the
mystery of the woman,
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and of the beast
that carries her,
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which has seven
heads and ten horns.
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Clearly seeing it
again, that beast shows up
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all over the place
and for us to say that,
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that beast is
anything but the dragon,
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the dragon works
through other nations.
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Works through Rome,
worked through Babylon,
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worked through Medo-Persia,
worked through Greece,
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works through paganism,
works through secularism,
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works through any
power that is anti-Christ,
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works through all those powers.
But what you wanna see is,
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Satan is interspersed
throughout the Bible.
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His head is being
seen as popping up
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in all these different
places, in all through all these
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different powers. And so
when you read Revelation 12
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you see that, yes,
Pagan Rome is the one
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that was around and
tried to kill Christ.
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Why were they
tried to kill Christ
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if Satan was not
behind him. Right. Okay.
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Oh, you also see in
Revelation 13 there,
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it talks about one of
the heads being wounded.
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Right. And so you know
the emphasis seems to be,
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as it's described
here is on this one head,
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not the beast,
that's right. Okay.
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So, you know we can't
say the beast is necessarily
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the Church of Rome, it's
already defined as Satan,
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but we can't say that one
of the heads certainly is.
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That's right. And then
we get to Revelation 17,
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we can't say that the beast
is Rome because the woman is.
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Okay. So, we've got to be
careful as we go through these,
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you know our descriptions
here of these powers
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within Revelation
that were like you said,
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we're not describing
an interpretation to one
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and then changing
that interpretation
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because it doesn't
quite fit another scenario
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or the scenario that
we typically think, right,
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Revelation should
have, that would be
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a private interpretation.
That's why Revelation
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is showing you
the great controversy
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between Jesus and Satan,
between light and darkness,
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truth and error. And
it is all interspersed
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throughout the
Bible and it's showing you
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how Satan worked through
all these different nations,
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different powers.
But I like what you just
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pointed out, John, I
want to reiterate that.
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When the Bible talks about
he had one of his heads were
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wounded to death. It
means the others were not,
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seven heads. One of
them was wounded meaning,
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six were never
wounded. And so that means,
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if each of these
heads represented power
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it means there
are six of the powers
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that Satan had been
working through out history,
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human history that
were never wounded.
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And you could go down the
line and begin to talk about
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what some of those are.
Eastern Mysticism is one,
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the other one he
worked through was Judaism,
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which rejected the
Messiah. Islam rejected Jesus.
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Look at all these powers that
when you go through history,
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you find them popping up
their heads spiritualism,
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the very first one introduced
in the book of Genesis.
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You shall not surely
die that whole foundation,
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the natural
immortality of man's body,
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or man's soul is all a
foundational thing there.
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And the point, reason
I'm sharing this today
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is I want many of you to
just dive back into your Bible
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and begin to see, that
Satan doesn't just show up
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in Revelation 12 and then
again in Revelation Chapter 20
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where he is
bound for 1000 years.
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He is
throughout. He is throughout.
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Another place you will find
him is in Revelation Chapter 9.
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We know that when we
talked about when the Bible
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talks about this star
that had fallen from heaven.
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We find there in
Revelation 9 and I'll just go
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and point this
other one out too.
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Because the other
thing you find in Revelation
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is only seven times is the
phrase bottomless pit mentioned
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that's the New King James
and the King James Version.
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It's talked about as the abyss
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in the new
international version.
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But when you go to the
first time it's introduced
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all the major
components that talked about
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and defined at the
introduction of that symbol.
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So Revelation 9, if I
would to ask a novelist
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whose being described
there in Revelation 9,
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it talks about this he
says and I saw, Revelation 9.
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Oh, I turned, I was
right there and I turned back.
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And then the
fifth angel sounded,
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and I saw a star fallen
from heaven to the earth;
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and to him was given the
key to the bottomless pit.
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Oh, yes he has the
question, couple of questions.
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Who is the star? One
that fell from heaven.
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Well the Bible doesn't
even cause you to guess,
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because Revelation 12
says there was war in heaven,
00:19:06.00\00:19:09.02
Satan and his angels
fought and they did not prevail.
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So they were cast out
of heaven into the earth.
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And what was his name
before he was cast out?
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Lucifer, The Morning Star.
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So this star that
had fallen from heaven
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to the earth clearly is Lucifer,
the bright and Morning Star.
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Jesus also is the
Bright and Morning Star.
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And so you could see all the
types and the anti-types there.
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And then it talks about
the bottomless pit twice here
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in chapter 9, you have
verse 2 and have verse 11.
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And let's look at verse
11 because it gives another
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definition to this
star that fell from heaven.
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It calls it first in
verse 1, it calls it him.
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So we know it's not a symbol
of a thing but of a personality
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and then it says and
they had a King over them.
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So what comes out
of the bottomless pit
00:20:03.01\00:20:05.04
is associated with
him. He is there obviously
00:20:05.05\00:20:08.51
his subjects, because
he is the King over them.
00:20:08.52\00:20:11.50
Now keep this in mind,
Jesus is the King of Kings
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and Lord of Lords.
And He is the commander
00:20:16.14\00:20:18.41
of the angels, the Holy angels.
00:20:18.42\00:20:21.53
But Satan here is the
commander of evil angels.
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Follow this carefully.
Verse 11, And they had
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a King over them, the angel now,
00:20:27.13\00:20:29.96
the third symbol is
added, he is not only the star
00:20:29.97\00:20:32.70
that fell from
heaven, but it's a him.
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And now in verse 11
referred to him as a King
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and then the
fourth thing as an angel
00:20:37.78\00:20:39.60
of the bottomless
pit. And then whose name
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in Hebrew is
Abaddon, but in Greek
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he has the name
Apollyon. And when you look at
00:20:43.75\00:20:46.78
the definition of the
Greek there and the name Greek
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and then Apollyon in Hebrew,
both of those are the names
00:20:51.61\00:20:55.16
that the Greeks and the
Hebrews used to identify Satan.
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So Revelation 9
is introducing Satan
00:20:59.74\00:21:03.61
into a very key
element of the Bible.
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And so one of the
first times he's talked about
00:21:05.72\00:21:07.63
is being introduced on the scene
00:21:07.64\00:21:09.34
and his angels
being introduced with him
00:21:09.35\00:21:11.17
in Revelation the book, you
see in Revelation Chapter 9.
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I think part of the
confusion here too, John,
00:21:15.38\00:21:17.15
is that as each beast,
there are three beasts actually
00:21:17.16\00:21:19.80
that are sinned in Revelation.
00:21:19.81\00:21:21.56
There was, the first beast
is speaking of ascending out
00:21:21.57\00:21:25.46
of the sea, its Revelation
13 the beginning of it.
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The second
beast of Revelation 13
00:21:28.73\00:21:30.78
ascending out of the,
what? The land. Right.
00:21:30.79\00:21:34.37
And then the third
beast ascending out of the
00:21:34.38\00:21:36.62
bottomless pit. Right.
What you're really seeing
00:21:36.63\00:21:39.70
in each of these things
are manifestations of Satan,
00:21:39.71\00:21:43.38
his war, through the entity
by which he chooses to use.
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Right. So you are
having a blending here
00:21:49.44\00:21:51.98
with each of the
beast powers of blending
00:21:51.99\00:21:54.07
with the power that he is using.
00:21:54.08\00:21:55.87
First of all, Revelation
12 describes a definition
00:21:55.88\00:21:59.10
as to who this
ultimate beast is, it's Satan.
00:21:59.11\00:22:01.69
Right. So when you
get to Revelation 13,
00:22:01.70\00:22:03.47
you're talking about
Satan managing himself through
00:22:03.48\00:22:06.66
the power of Rome.
Then you're seeing Satan
00:22:06.67\00:22:08.99
and the next beast
there in Revelation 13 through
00:22:09.00\00:22:11.65
the power of apostate
Protestantism which is
00:22:11.66\00:22:14.74
in the United States.
Then you are seeing here
00:22:14.75\00:22:16.70
Satan
reappearing literally again
00:22:16.71\00:22:18.62
I believe in
Revelation 17. Right.
00:22:18.63\00:22:21.24
And then the woman
that's riding her and the Kings
00:22:21.25\00:22:23.30
and stuff that
are described to her.
00:22:23.31\00:22:24.37
Now, the reason I say
it, I describe it that way
00:22:24.38\00:22:27.52
is because in
Revelation 16, you've got three,
00:22:27.53\00:22:31.21
it's almost the false
trinity identified there
00:22:31.22\00:22:33.88
for the most
part. Revelation 16:13,
00:22:33.89\00:22:36.40
the three unclean
spirits like frogs coming out of
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the mouth of the
dragon, that's Revelation 12,
00:22:38.44\00:22:41.85
the mouth of the beast,
Revelation 13 the first one
00:22:41.86\00:22:44.97
and the mouth of
the false prophet,
00:22:44.98\00:22:46.31
the second beast
of Revelation 13.
00:22:46.32\00:22:47.97
That's right. So the three
identified in one spot here,
00:22:47.98\00:22:51.94
but each time this
beast with seven heads
00:22:51.95\00:22:54.44
and ten horns appears. So
it is a little bit confusing.
00:22:54.45\00:23:00.57
But once you stick to the
rules and you start realizing
00:23:00.58\00:23:04.11
how these blend together
then it becomes a little easier
00:23:04.12\00:23:07.08
to understand what the
Book of Revelation is telling us
00:23:07.09\00:23:09.48
in these
passages. Yeah, Revelation,
00:23:09.49\00:23:11.41
and even in
Revelation 11 where, you know,
00:23:11.42\00:23:13.51
we know
historically through France,
00:23:13.52\00:23:14.92
how Satan used the
powers of France to wipe out
00:23:14.93\00:23:19.51
and outlawed the word of God.
00:23:19.52\00:23:21.61
But then who is
working through that power?
00:23:21.62\00:23:23.24
Revelation 11 verse
7, the beast that ascends
00:23:23.25\00:23:26.53
out of the bottomless pit
will make war against them
00:23:26.54\00:23:28.53
and overcome them and kill them.
00:23:28.54\00:23:30.32
Once again, outlawing
the word of God in France.
00:23:30.33\00:23:32.96
That was an application
to the time than present
00:23:32.97\00:23:36.39
but has a broader application,
because you find that not
00:23:36.40\00:23:40.25
only had that happened,
but this is a part of the pause
00:23:40.26\00:23:44.39
between the sixth and
the seventh trumpet things
00:23:44.40\00:23:48.34
that are
happening between the sixth
00:23:48.35\00:23:50.03
and the seventh
trumpet. So anyway not giving
00:23:50.04\00:23:52.69
you an entire study on
Revelation but one of the
00:23:52.70\00:23:55.41
thing that you wanna
connect in Revelation 12
00:23:55.42\00:23:57.56
and verse 12 at the very
end of Revelation 12 verse 12
00:23:57.57\00:24:01.16
it says for the
devil that's come down
00:24:01.17\00:24:02.43
to you having great
wrath, because he knows he has
00:24:02.44\00:24:06.43
but a short time. And
then you go to Revelation 17
00:24:06.44\00:24:12.35
and you look at one
more application there
00:24:12.36\00:24:14.76
in Revelation 17 verse
10. They are also seven kings,
00:24:14.77\00:24:19.28
five have fallen. One is
in, the other has not yet come
00:24:19.29\00:24:23.03
and when he comes he
must continue a short time.
00:24:23.04\00:24:27.01
So who's that one
that comes and the answer
00:24:27.02\00:24:29.91
is so simple and so
clear because it tells you
00:24:29.92\00:24:32.84
who that eighth
one is in verse 8.
00:24:32.85\00:24:35.48
The beast that
you saw was and is not
00:24:35.49\00:24:37.39
and will ascend out
of the bottomless pit.
00:24:37.40\00:24:39.82
The one that's gonna
ascend out of the bottomless pit
00:24:39.83\00:24:41.79
and continue a
short time is Satan.
00:24:41.80\00:24:45.28
So it's really clear
there. One of the things about
00:24:45.29\00:24:47.13
prophesy that I really like
that can also be a little bit
00:24:47.14\00:24:50.49
difficult to
understand sometimes is,
00:24:50.50\00:24:52.90
it seems like
prophesy itself has a type
00:24:52.91\00:24:55.36
and anti-type
fulfillment. Yes, it does.
00:24:55.37\00:24:57.61
You know you've
got and some would use
00:24:57.62\00:25:00.02
the words
application fulfillment.
00:25:00.03\00:25:03.22
Some use dual fulfillment,
I don't like the word so much
00:25:03.23\00:25:05.53
because once
fulfillment it's done.
00:25:05.54\00:25:07.39
Right. But anyway, so
you have this description
00:25:07.40\00:25:10.96
and over and over again you see
00:25:10.97\00:25:12.97
this in Isaiah and
Jeremiah and Ezekiel
00:25:12.98\00:25:15.22
and the minor prophets were,
as the prophesy was described
00:25:15.23\00:25:20.03
to the children of
Israel and nation locally.
00:25:20.04\00:25:22.47
Right. But they also
received a climatic fulfillment
00:25:22.48\00:25:27.02
for the spiritual
Israel, God's people at the end
00:25:27.03\00:25:31.20
of time right before his return.
00:25:31.21\00:25:32.81
That's right. So when
you're reading through
00:25:32.82\00:25:35.29
these prophesies the
general understanding
00:25:35.30\00:25:38.49
and application
can be made locally
00:25:38.50\00:25:41.01
there at that time and
then also a fulfillment
00:25:41.02\00:25:43.40
at the end of time.
And some of the symbols
00:25:43.41\00:25:45.61
that are wrapped up in
these are more specific
00:25:45.62\00:25:48.18
to maybe one or the other.
Do you hear what I'm saying?
00:25:48.19\00:25:50.53
There could be something
specific in there that's really
00:25:50.54\00:25:52.77
meant to be more for
the local application
00:25:52.78\00:25:55.11
then a ultimate end
time climatic fulfillment.
00:25:55.12\00:25:58.73
Not everyone,
every single description
00:25:58.74\00:26:01.33
there is
fulfilling on both sides.
00:26:01.34\00:26:03.23
The type and anti-type,
do you hear what I'm saying?
00:26:03.24\00:26:04.90
Right, there is not always,
there is not always that echo
00:26:04.91\00:26:07.40
and then the re-echo.
Yeah. There is not constant.
00:26:07.41\00:26:09.29
So when you reading,
in fact, when you read
00:26:09.30\00:26:11.03
some of the prophesies
of Christ it will be giving
00:26:11.04\00:26:13.47
a prophesy about
something entirely else,
00:26:13.48\00:26:15.32
some different
application referring to maybe
00:26:15.33\00:26:18.92
the nation of Israel then
all of a sudden in the middle,
00:26:18.93\00:26:20.55
one verse. Here's
Jesus, it talks about Jesus.
00:26:20.56\00:26:23.73
You know the one
that would appear
00:26:24.08\00:26:25.45
and so forth and so on.
00:26:25.46\00:26:26.71
We don't have enough
time to go into those.
00:26:27.33\00:26:28.88
But, this is what
we're dealing with
00:26:28.89\00:26:31.37
when we're reading prophesy,
and it's really important
00:26:31.38\00:26:33.52
understand that
it can be complicated
00:26:33.53\00:26:35.89
but you have to replace some
general principles and rules
00:26:36.39\00:26:38.49
to understand what's going on,
00:26:38.50\00:26:39.48
in the local perspective
as the prophesy was given
00:26:39.49\00:26:42.18
and then the
antitypical fulfillment.
00:26:42.19\00:26:44.10
That's right. And some
people try to some people
00:26:44.11\00:26:46.44
stumble over
themselves by trying to get
00:26:46.94\00:26:48.81
too many symbols to
apply to too many things
00:26:48.82\00:26:51.41
and almost some people
also make some prophesies
00:26:51.42\00:26:54.80
repeat all the time.
This say, will this apply
00:26:54.81\00:26:57.30
to Israel but this also
applies to the end time,
00:26:57.31\00:26:59.56
they're applied in Micah
there but it also applies
00:26:59.57\00:27:01.29
to the end time. Be very,
very careful when you do that,
00:27:01.30\00:27:04.00
because as John just said.
00:27:04.01\00:27:05.51
everything
doesn't apply to both.
00:27:05.52\00:27:06.49
Everything
doesn't apply to both.
00:27:06.50\00:27:07.76
You have to
remember that the prophecy
00:27:07.77\00:27:09.88
of Jonah for example, it
had its fulfillment in Nineveh.
00:27:09.89\00:27:12.63
Are there people
that do what Jonah did?
00:27:13.95\00:27:16.25
Yes. There are people
that go the opposite way
00:27:16.28\00:27:18.13
when God tries to lead
them but don't keep applying
00:27:18.14\00:27:20.50
that prophecy to
Jonah. The only thing
00:27:20.51\00:27:22.48
that was applied
to Jonah more than
00:27:22.49\00:27:23.64
once was when Jesus
says as he was in the belly
00:27:23.65\00:27:27.03
of the fish three
days and three nights,
00:27:27.04\00:27:28.45
soul of the son of man
be in the heart of the earth
00:27:28.46\00:27:30.17
yeah, three days
and three nights.
00:27:30.18\00:27:31.43
That's how Jesus applied
but he didn't go past that.
00:27:31.44\00:27:33.50
Right. And I think
you and I have dealt
00:27:33.51\00:27:35.66
with this several
times and have been through
00:27:35.67\00:27:37.90
seminars and things that
would be present on prophesy,
00:27:38.46\00:27:41.21
but you know the reading
00:27:41.22\00:27:42.19
of Revelation 8
and 9 and 10 and 11.
00:27:42.20\00:27:46.39
You can make that application
to things in history.
00:27:46.82\00:27:49.21
That's right. You
can and absolutely
00:27:49.22\00:27:51.30
and we don't
second guess or question
00:27:51.31\00:27:53.76
some of the application
that people have made
00:27:53.77\00:27:55.37
in those
prophesies, but also we think
00:27:55.38\00:27:57.06
that you would be blind
not to recognize the literal
00:27:57.45\00:28:00.71
antitypical fulfillment of
these events at the end of time.
00:28:00.72\00:28:03.83
Like a broad, yeah,
and appointed purpose
00:28:03.84\00:28:09.50
for these
prophesies to be written.
00:28:09.51\00:28:11.06
And so that you could literally
now establish a timeline.
00:28:11.52\00:28:14.11
A timeline in the sense
like Jesus said in Matthew 24,
00:28:14.49\00:28:17.13
when all these things
begin to come to pass,
00:28:17.14\00:28:19.15
Luke know that it is
near even at the door.
00:28:20.61\00:28:23.34
Matthew lift up as the
parable of the fig tree,
00:28:23.35\00:28:27.33
you know, the summer's near.
00:28:27.34\00:28:28.33
Even so you know
that when all these things
00:28:28.34\00:28:29.67
begin to happen, well
Jesus is near even at the door.
00:28:29.68\00:28:32.37
If they were not
things we don't know the day
00:28:32.82\00:28:34.55
nor the hour but the
Lord does give us indications
00:28:34.56\00:28:36.50
as to how near it
is. And Nahum 3 verse 7,
00:28:36.51\00:28:39.33
the wonderful encouragement is,
00:28:39.34\00:28:41.40
he says, surely the
Lord God does nothing,
00:28:41.41\00:28:43.72
except he revealed his
secrets to his servants,
00:28:43.73\00:28:46.62
the prophets. And
when you look at the word
00:28:46.63\00:28:48.55
servants in Revelation,
the reason why the devil
00:28:48.56\00:28:50.86
is angry is
because the servants of God
00:28:50.87\00:28:53.04
in the last days
will understand prophesies
00:28:53.05\00:28:55.48
so well that he
wants to shut them up
00:28:55.49\00:28:58.13
and he can't do it,
because the servants of God
00:28:58.56\00:29:00.98
are revealing now to the world,
00:29:00.99\00:29:02.51
the final events as
they are drawing to a close.
00:29:03.18\00:29:06.63
So anyway, one
quick question here.
00:29:06.64\00:29:09.25
I thought this is a really
nice one and you know what,
00:29:09.26\00:29:11.55
I think everybody is
sincere but sometimes
00:29:11.99\00:29:14.44
I wanna make sure the reason
I am reading this question
00:29:14.45\00:29:17.09
so that you don't misunderstand
00:29:17.10\00:29:18.52
what we do here at House Calls.
00:29:18.53\00:29:20.04
This is from
Australia as a matter of fact,
00:29:21.57\00:29:23.41
Stanthorpe,
Australia, go on give the name.
00:29:24.02\00:29:28.14
Thank you so
much for sending it.
00:29:29.33\00:29:30.40
On the satellite
channel one Adventist people
00:29:30.41\00:29:32.42
who are showing
scenes of the places
00:29:32.43\00:29:34.68
where the apostles preached.
00:29:34.69\00:29:36.33
He pointed out the marble ruins
00:29:37.03\00:29:38.69
with multiple engravings of eggs
00:29:38.70\00:29:41.87
because they
represented the fertility cult.
00:29:41.88\00:29:45.83
And then the person
asked this question.
00:29:46.51\00:29:47.95
Is this why you have
egg symbols as a backdrop
00:29:47.96\00:29:51.37
on your House Calls? Now,
just do this very quickly,
00:29:51.38\00:29:54.86
take a shot of John.
If you can do that for me
00:29:54.87\00:29:56.80
but the camera
want to show somebody.
00:29:56.81\00:29:58.55
Behind John you could see
that there are like on the shelf
00:29:58.56\00:30:00.95
looks like three
little stands of eggs on it,
00:30:00.96\00:30:03.67
that has absolutely no
bearing to any support of eggs
00:30:03.68\00:30:10.40
or symbols of
paganistic believes.
00:30:10.41\00:30:12.41
Pure
coincidences. That's decoration.
00:30:12.42\00:30:13.69
Yeah. Now it is like
if you eat your eggs,
00:30:14.33\00:30:15.66
or if you have an egg in
your house all of a sudden
00:30:15.67\00:30:17.09
you know
worshiping the fertility God.
00:30:17.10\00:30:18.91
People worship moon,
people worship the Sun,
00:30:19.84\00:30:23.14
because we walk in
the light of the Sun.
00:30:23.55\00:30:25.20
we don't bow down to
the light of the Sun.
00:30:25.59\00:30:27.38
Right. And so thank you
very much for that question.
00:30:27.39\00:30:29.85
And this one last one
John. Let's help this person
00:30:30.24\00:30:33.14
here with this. Go
to, read this for me
00:30:33.15\00:30:35.74
John 15 verse
5. John 15 verse 5,
00:30:35.75\00:30:38.41
this person
evidently misunderstood
00:30:39.02\00:30:40.95
when we talked about keeping
00:30:40.96\00:30:43.27
the commandments of
God. And the question
00:30:43.28\00:30:44.74
a few weeks ago was
is it necessary to keep
00:30:44.75\00:30:47.16
the commandments to be saved.
00:30:47.17\00:30:48.35
And we said, and we
added to qualify to that
00:30:48.36\00:30:52.79
but I think the
person only thought that
00:30:52.80\00:30:54.24
we meant in order
to be saved, you better
00:30:54.25\00:30:56.53
find a way to keep the
commandments to be saved.
00:30:56.54\00:30:58.45
Well what we have
to keep in mind, John?
00:30:58.46\00:31:01.43
If you read John
Chapter 15 and verse 5,
00:31:01.44\00:31:05.89
read that for us. I am the vine,
00:31:05.90\00:31:07.42
ye are the
branches. That's right.
00:31:07.43\00:31:09.76
He who abideth in me, and
I in him bears much fruit,
00:31:10.12\00:31:13.03
for without me you
can do nothing. Okay.
00:31:13.04\00:31:15.61
Now, John 14 verse
15. If you love me,
00:31:15.62\00:31:21.12
keep my commandments. Okay.
By abiding in Christ's divine,
00:31:21.13\00:31:24.97
without him we can't do
it. With him, Philippians 4:13,
00:31:24.98\00:31:29.19
I can do all things
through Christ who strengths me.
00:31:29.20\00:31:31.15
And to verify that we spent
a lot of time in Revelation.
00:31:31.16\00:31:33.90
And Revelation says it
very, very clearly the last day
00:31:33.91\00:31:37.10
people of the Lord
will not be those who ignore
00:31:37.11\00:31:40.10
the commandments
of God but the reason
00:31:40.11\00:31:41.76
why the devil
will be upset with them
00:31:41.77\00:31:43.18
is because Revelation 17 says,
00:31:43.19\00:31:44.83
Revelation 12 verse 17
00:31:44.84\00:31:47.32
The dragon is enraged
who angry with the woman
00:31:47.77\00:31:50.06
went to make war with
the rest of her spring
00:31:50.07\00:31:52.04
who keep the
commandments of God.
00:31:52.05\00:31:54.50
So, by the strength of Jesus,
by the indwelling Holy Spirit,
00:31:54.51\00:31:58.59
by being connected to
the vine they will be able
00:31:58.60\00:32:01.76
by his strength to live in
harmony with the commandments.
00:32:01.77\00:32:05.03
Can you ignore the
commandments and violate
00:32:05.04\00:32:06.93
them and be saved?
No. But are they the means
00:32:06.94\00:32:10.27
by which you are saved?
No. And here is another way
00:32:10.28\00:32:12.62
of saying that.
Yeah. There are two sides
00:32:12.63\00:32:15.54
of an equation,
an equal side. Okay.
00:32:15.55\00:32:17.76
Two sides of an
equation, either you are,
00:32:17.77\00:32:20.16
before you, let
me put it this way.
00:32:20.17\00:32:23.13
Before you accept
Christ, keeping the commandments
00:32:23.14\00:32:25.39
of God will do
nothing. Before you meet Christ
00:32:25.40\00:32:29.48
and accept him as your
Savior, commandments means
00:32:29.49\00:32:31.24
nothing to you,
because they are fruitless.
00:32:31.25\00:32:32.73
Why keep them?
Because you are not,
00:32:33.28\00:32:34.84
you don't have
Christ. Don't have him.
00:32:34.85\00:32:36.32
After you accept
Christ as your savior you see
00:32:36.33\00:32:40.25
these commands, these
things that God that he would,
00:32:40.26\00:32:43.11
ask of you in your life
and your commitment to him
00:32:43.12\00:32:45.48
such as if you love
me, keep my commandments.
00:32:45.49\00:32:47.93
Then those things
like the commandments
00:32:47.94\00:32:50.50
become important in your
life. So when people talk about,
00:32:50.51\00:32:54.29
you know, legalism and
other things I would say
00:32:54.30\00:32:56.00
which side of the
equation you are talking about?
00:32:56.01\00:32:57.67
What do you mean? Its
like before you accept
00:32:57.68\00:33:00.01
Christ or after
you accept Christ,
00:33:00.02\00:33:01.22
because before you
accept Christ I agree with you
00:33:01.23\00:33:02.97
keeping the
commandments does nothing.
00:33:02.98\00:33:04.17
But you after accept
Christ as your Savior,
00:33:04.18\00:33:06.86
I would have to
disagree with you.
00:33:06.87\00:33:08.82
Because keeping the commandments
00:33:08.83\00:33:10.44
is something that He
clearly asked us to do
00:33:10.45\00:33:12.06
as we abide in him
and as we show our love
00:33:12.07\00:33:15.63
for him and bare fruit
for him, we are keeping
00:33:15.64\00:33:17.70
his commandments. So never keep
00:33:17.71\00:33:19.99
the commandments to be saved.
00:33:20.00\00:33:21.66
We keep the
commandments because we have
00:33:21.67\00:33:23.62
already been saved and
add to that if you want
00:33:23.63\00:33:27.20
keeping your
commandments and you say
00:33:27.21\00:33:28.82
you are saved. James
says that's impossible.
00:33:28.83\00:33:31.03
That's right. So,
if you have been saved
00:33:32.96\00:33:36.39
but then don't keep
the commandments of God
00:33:36.40\00:33:38.32
then I would say you
are in jeopardy of losing
00:33:38.33\00:33:40.47
that salvation because
there is not fruit in you
00:33:40.48\00:33:42.95
and it's
impossible for you to be saved
00:33:42.96\00:33:44.65
and not keep the
commandments of God.
00:33:44.66\00:33:46.31
So which side of the
equation are you talking
00:33:46.32\00:33:49.60
about when you
say, do you have to keep
00:33:49.61\00:33:51.97
the commandments
of God? And to say
00:33:51.98\00:33:53.55
I love the Lord, but don't keep
00:33:53.56\00:33:56.02
the commandments
it's not possible.
00:33:56.03\00:33:57.70
It's not possible.
First John 2 verse 3 and 4,
00:33:57.71\00:34:02.68
verse 4. He who says I
know him and does not keep
00:34:02.69\00:34:06.03
his commandments is
a liar and the truth
00:34:06.04\00:34:07.63
is not in him, that's
the authority of God's word.
00:34:07.64\00:34:09.40
But here is the way
that Jesus illustrates
00:34:09.85\00:34:11.62
it and by the way
he is our best example.
00:34:11.63\00:34:13.45
Notice how Jesus
put it in the same book,
00:34:13.46\00:34:15.56
John Chapter 15 and verse 10.
00:34:15.57\00:34:17.59
If you keep my commandments
you will abide in my love,
00:34:17.60\00:34:21.94
just as I have kept
my father's commandments
00:34:21.95\00:34:25.09
and abided in his love.
When you abide in the love
00:34:25.10\00:34:27.88
of Jesus, you will
keep his commandments.
00:34:27.89\00:34:30.08
He says if you
keep my commandments
00:34:30.09\00:34:31.58
you will abide in my
love. Otherwise if you love me,
00:34:31.59\00:34:33.66
keep my commandments.
That's what he said
00:34:33.67\00:34:35.74
it in the chapter before
that. So, it's not possible
00:34:35.75\00:34:37.96
to say I love the Lord.
But man that's Sabbath thing,
00:34:37.97\00:34:41.30
I don't know
what to do with that.
00:34:41.31\00:34:42.72
I'm just not even
gonna deal with that one.
00:34:42.73\00:34:44.07
I'm just gonna forget
that. We can't do that.
00:34:44.08\00:34:46.59
It's by the love of
Christ abiding in us that we
00:34:46.60\00:34:49.22
are enabled to live in
harmony with his commandments.
00:34:49.23\00:34:51.55
So thank you for the
question. But we don't have,
00:34:51.56\00:34:53.89
as the person implied here John.
00:34:53.90\00:34:56.07
Of course if John
Lomacang and Stanton
00:34:56.08\00:35:00.33
are not sinners these
words would not apply to you.
00:35:00.34\00:35:02.88
You have perfect freedom
to appear in the judgment
00:35:03.53\00:35:05.92
in your own perfect
obedience to the law of God.
00:35:05.93\00:35:08.44
How are you counteracting
the counterfeit with this kind
00:35:09.29\00:35:11.70
of legalistic teaching
going forth to the whole world?
00:35:11.71\00:35:14.91
And sorry if you
misunderstood us,
00:35:15.45\00:35:17.59
but if we ever teach
that you can give the
00:35:18.04\00:35:19.79
commandments without
Jesus either we were tongue-tied
00:35:19.80\00:35:23.77
and just sick within
ourselves or missed the bull by
00:35:23.78\00:35:27.10
thousand miles. But the
reason why there are two
00:35:27.11\00:35:28.92
of us if John misstates it
I'll correct him and vice versa.
00:35:28.93\00:35:32.23
That's right. So we do
believe that the commandments
00:35:32.24\00:35:34.13
of God are widely important
to our saving relationship
00:35:34.14\00:35:36.83
with Jesus, cannot, you cannot
go to heaven by breaking them.
00:35:36.84\00:35:40.54
But they are not the
standard of your salvation,
00:35:40.80\00:35:42.53
Jesus is. And when you
are in him, you will walk in
00:35:42.81\00:35:45.58
his commandments.
That's right. Right.
00:35:45.59\00:35:47.15
Thank you for your
questions and comments
00:35:47.99\00:35:49.57
and by the way I know we've
started up your righteous mind.
00:35:49.88\00:35:52.69
If you would like to send
us a question or even a comment
00:35:53.12\00:35:55.41
you can send those
to housecalls@3abn.org,
00:35:55.92\00:35:58.92
that's housecalls@3abn.org,
and we would enjoy continuing
00:35:58.93\00:36:02.93
to walk with you in the word.
00:36:02.94\00:36:03.97
John, take us back
into our topic today.
00:36:04.76\00:36:06.83
We've been talking
about walking in the spirit,
00:36:06.84\00:36:08.55
so widely important
to this walk with Christ.
00:36:09.09\00:36:12.13
And it's a good safe way
too from the question that
00:36:12.37\00:36:13.99
we just had because we
talked about abiding in Christ.
00:36:14.00\00:36:16.26
So wonderful, yeah. So
when you are abiding in
00:36:16.72\00:36:18.47
Christ that means the
presence of Christ is with in
00:36:18.48\00:36:20.70
you and you will
become one with Christ,
00:36:20.71\00:36:22.68
you are abiding in
him. And, so, I think John,
00:36:22.87\00:36:26.64
we covered pretty well
last time the importance of
00:36:27.71\00:36:30.06
receiving the Holy Spirit
and what the Holy Spirit is for
00:36:30.07\00:36:33.15
that is to help us to live
like Christians and the bare
00:36:33.37\00:36:35.44
fruit as Christians. And to
manifest Christ in our lives.
00:36:35.45\00:36:39.52
But now we wanna kind of
go from here and talk about
00:36:40.12\00:36:42.82
some of the elementary or
some of the practices and the
00:36:44.14\00:36:47.78
changes that will occur in life,
00:36:47.79\00:36:49.30
when the Holy
Spirit resides there.
00:36:50.19\00:36:52.07
And I think you had some
things that you specifically
00:36:52.37\00:36:54.12
had done that you would
like to cover on those things.
00:36:55.24\00:36:57.20
You know, where are these
changes that occur in our heart,
00:36:57.64\00:37:02.08
in our mind as the Holy Spirit
then fills us and gives us
00:37:02.09\00:37:05.52
the ability to keep the
law of God and to walk in
00:37:05.53\00:37:09.04
all his ways? Let's go
to Galatians chapter 5.
00:37:09.05\00:37:12.39
This is a, we read
in the Book of Romans,
00:37:13.32\00:37:16.78
Paul in Romans chapter 8,
he talks about walking in the
00:37:16.79\00:37:19.68
spirit as compared
to walking in the flesh,
00:37:19.69\00:37:22.08
living in the spirit as
compared to living in the flesh.
00:37:22.27\00:37:24.91
And the comparisons are
so striking that we have to
00:37:25.08\00:37:27.70
take time to look at that
and then he addresses that
00:37:28.47\00:37:30.50
again in Galatians chapter
5 and he starts with verse 16.
00:37:30.51\00:37:35.58
How wonderful it is though John,
00:37:37.01\00:37:38.78
that he talks about the law
of God here in this chapter 2
00:37:40.01\00:37:42.92
but let's start with
verse 16 John and we would
00:37:42.93\00:37:46.19
walk down. And I'll just
go ahead and read as you get
00:37:46.20\00:37:48.88
some other points together
here. Galatians 5 verse 16,
00:37:48.89\00:37:52.24
follow him carefully. I
say then, Paul is admonishing,
00:37:52.99\00:37:57.13
walk in the Spirit, and ye
shall not fulfill the lust of
00:37:57.76\00:38:02.99
the flesh. Here
is the great battle.
00:38:03.00\00:38:05.98
For the flesh lusts against the
spirit and the spirit against
00:38:07.51\00:38:12.28
the flesh, and these
are contrary to one another.
00:38:12.29\00:38:15.96
So that you do not do
the things that you wish.
00:38:16.43\00:38:19.63
Now the reason why Paul is
not anonymous in the series
00:38:19.76\00:38:21.84
because he said in Romans
7, what I wanna do I can't,
00:38:21.85\00:38:24.86
what I hate doing
that's why I do, I'm wretched,
00:38:25.31\00:38:28.36
I need deliverance.
He says the deliverance
00:38:28.63\00:38:30.80
comes when we are
walking in the spirit.
00:38:30.81\00:38:33.12
And the reason why
he says there is a great
00:38:33.49\00:38:35.39
controversy everyday. If
we put to death all these
00:38:35.40\00:38:39.40
fleshy desires then we
are walking in the spirit and
00:38:39.49\00:38:42.53
there is life there. But
I like you, I don't know if
00:38:42.54\00:38:44.34
you are there John
if you could continue,
00:38:44.35\00:38:46.03
and we are gonna go
ahead and outline the works of
00:38:47.92\00:38:50.85
the flesh. And I want
you to walk through them
00:38:50.90\00:38:52.50
very slowly, because
sometimes you find people that
00:38:52.51\00:38:56.63
are walking in the building
of the church but they are
00:38:56.64\00:38:59.14
not necessarily walking in
the spirit, in the Holy Spirit.
00:38:59.15\00:39:02.90
They are walking in the
building, they are walking
00:39:03.16\00:39:05.44
through the pews, they
are walking on the rostrum.
00:39:05.57\00:39:08.17
But they are not
walking in the spirit.
00:39:08.27\00:39:09.70
Look at the identity of
all of those who are walking
00:39:09.89\00:39:12.73
in the flesh. Verse 19,
Now the words of the flesh
00:39:12.74\00:39:16.54
are evident which are adultery,
fornication, uncleanness,
00:39:16.55\00:39:23.25
lewdness, idolatry,
sorcery, hatred, contentions,
00:39:23.83\00:39:29.66
jealousies, outbursts of
wrath, selfish ambitions,
00:39:29.98\00:39:34.18
dissensions, heresies,
envy, murders, drunkenness,
00:39:34.42\00:39:39.07
revelries, and the like,
of which I tell you beforehand
00:39:39.27\00:39:43.92
just as I told you in time
past. That those who practice
00:39:43.93\00:39:48.35
such things will not inherit
the kingdom of God. Okay.
00:39:48.36\00:39:52.00
Notice that that's a quite
list anywhere from selfishness
00:39:52.19\00:39:55.69
to sorcery from
murder to contention.
00:39:55.97\00:40:00.69
Notice he doesn't put
murder and contention in a
00:40:00.73\00:40:03.47
lesser category, he says
a murderer somebody doing
00:40:04.26\00:40:07.08
life of murder is in the
same condemnation in the flesh
00:40:07.09\00:40:10.65
as a person who
loves to contend.
00:40:10.66\00:40:12.54
Notice, he talks about people
that are outbursts of wrath,
00:40:13.14\00:40:19.45
can't control their
temper, temper tantrums,
00:40:19.79\00:40:21.78
temper tantrums. How are
you gonna be in the spirit
00:40:21.79\00:40:25.07
and you can't control your
temper or more specifically
00:40:25.08\00:40:28.51
when you are in the spirit
you yield your temper to the
00:40:28.78\00:40:31.20
control of the
Holy Spirit. It's right.
00:40:31.21\00:40:33.84
So, these are things that
we often see in and amongst
00:40:34.20\00:40:37.72
our church members and
they are singing more like Jesus
00:40:37.73\00:40:42.45
I would know and you know
we understand that there was
00:40:42.46\00:40:44.46
a growth aspect to this
too. But you know, John,
00:40:44.47\00:40:47.07
if you have been a Christian
for any number of years
00:40:47.23\00:40:50.09
and there is no evident
growth in that person's life,
00:40:50.30\00:40:53.65
we are asking ourselves
the question, are they,
00:40:54.15\00:40:56.38
are they fulfilled in just the
label or they, are they living
00:40:56.64\00:41:01.47
a fulfilling life,
because of this spirit. Right.
00:41:01.48\00:41:04.81
You know, one of the texts
that come to mind that isn't
00:41:05.46\00:41:08.26
usually associated with exactly
with the work of the spirit
00:41:08.27\00:41:11.75
but it's there to imply there
is First John 1:9. Oh, yes.
00:41:11.87\00:41:16.43
If we confess our sins he
is faithful and just to forgive
00:41:16.69\00:41:20.41
us our sins. Now that's
the part that happens when we
00:41:20.42\00:41:23.49
accept Christ. We repentant,
we confess and Jesus says,
00:41:23.50\00:41:28.33
by my atoning sacrifice
my blood I forgive you.
00:41:28.71\00:41:31.94
But in the rest of
the verse comes to play,
00:41:32.41\00:41:35.08
and to cleanse you
from all unrighteousness.
00:41:35.63\00:41:39.22
Now, the word
unrighteousness or even the word
00:41:39.23\00:41:42.23
righteousness or the righteous
acts are doings what we do.
00:41:42.24\00:41:45.71
And that cleansing, in
addition to the forgiveness that
00:41:46.63\00:41:49.77
we first receive the cleansing
work is done by none other
00:41:49.78\00:41:54.23
than the Holy Spirit. So
when I say the Holy Spirit,
00:41:54.24\00:41:57.73
I specifically mention that for
that verse it's implied there,
00:41:57.74\00:42:00.29
because the cleansing process
is the Holy Spirit's work.
00:42:00.94\00:42:04.71
Now, I take, I give you
that cleanness as a foundation
00:42:05.79\00:42:11.94
for the text I'm
about to read from Ezekiel.
00:42:11.95\00:42:13.76
And it's Ezekiel chapter 36
and it begins with verse 24,
00:42:15.14\00:42:20.61
and this is a promise
that God made to the people of
00:42:20.62\00:42:23.29
Israel and remember the
people of Israel were rebelling
00:42:23.30\00:42:26.77
against him, they were in
harlotry, they were in outright
00:42:26.78\00:42:30.41
not only rebellion but they
were in idol worship and they
00:42:30.42\00:42:33.25
were doing all those
things that we just read. Right.
00:42:33.26\00:42:35.74
And God is
saying, you are my people,
00:42:35.98\00:42:37.67
this should not be. But
then he provides a solution and
00:42:37.68\00:42:42.87
listen to the solution that
we find in Ezekiel 36 beginning
00:42:42.88\00:42:45.90
with verse 24. For I will
take you from among the nations,
00:42:45.91\00:42:50.82
gather you out of all countries,
and bring you into your
00:42:51.68\00:42:54.57
own land. Then will I
sprinkle clean water on you,
00:42:54.58\00:42:59.86
and ye shall be clean. I
will cleanse you from all your
00:43:00.40\00:43:04.00
filthiness, and from all your
idols. I will give you a new
00:43:04.22\00:43:08.36
heart and put a
new spirit within you.
00:43:08.37\00:43:11.93
I will take the heart of
stone out of your flesh and
00:43:12.25\00:43:14.95
give you heart of
flesh, and look at this,
00:43:14.96\00:43:17.31
I will put my spirit
within you and cause you to walk
00:43:17.52\00:43:22.55
in my statutes. You will
keep my judgments and do them.
00:43:22.67\00:43:27.84
What verse again and
chapter? Ezekiel 36 beginning
00:43:27.85\00:43:30.72
with verse 24
through verse 27. Okay.
00:43:30.73\00:43:34.40
You see the
process here of going from,
00:43:34.59\00:43:36.96
taking his people from a
state of rebellion that when
00:43:36.97\00:43:40.99
they repent and turn from
their sins what he will do
00:43:41.00\00:43:43.33
with them? He will put
them and set them up in their
00:43:43.34\00:43:45.63
own land. They will be
sprinkled with clean water,
00:43:45.64\00:43:49.61
that is a cleansing that
begins to occur and part of
00:43:49.62\00:43:51.95
that cleansing the,, is
giving them a new heart and it's
00:43:51.96\00:43:55.44
putting the spirit of God
with in them and then I like the
00:43:55.45\00:43:58.65
word cause. Cause you to
walk in my statutes and you
00:43:58.66\00:44:02.95
will keep my judgments
and do them. Remember we said
00:44:02.96\00:44:05.25
in answering the question,
that before you accept Christ,
00:44:05.26\00:44:07.96
before you receive his
spirit you cannot keep the
00:44:08.03\00:44:10.35
commandments of
God, your mind is carnal,
00:44:10.36\00:44:13.57
it's not able to follow
in the ways of God. Right.
00:44:13.58\00:44:16.74
But when the Holy Spirit
comes into your life after he
00:44:17.23\00:44:20.89
forgives you from those
past sins, he sprinkles you,
00:44:20.90\00:44:23.83
he cleans you, he puts the
Holy Spirit in you that begins
00:44:23.84\00:44:26.42
to work. And then that
alone the spirit causes you,
00:44:26.43\00:44:29.82
in other words it motivates
you. It puts a new desires,
00:44:29.94\00:44:33.72
so you desire to
keep the commandments,
00:44:33.73\00:44:36.78
follow God's ways and do
the things that are according
00:44:37.23\00:44:40.48
to his plan in your life.
You know what's so wonderful
00:44:40.49\00:44:44.08
about that, there needs to
be evidence to us that we are
00:44:44.09\00:44:47.15
walking in the
spirit. We need to know,
00:44:47.16\00:44:50.33
we need to have a
point of reference.
00:44:50.34\00:44:52.03
Lot of people, matter of
fact, First John 2 verse 3 when
00:44:52.36\00:44:56.47
Jesus says and here by we
do know that we know him if
00:44:56.48\00:44:59.52
we keep his commandments,
right, we know that.
00:44:59.53\00:45:02.01
We don't need
anybody to tell us that,
00:45:02.49\00:45:04.65
if I'm walking in my
house I know I'm home.
00:45:04.88\00:45:07.38
You don't need, you don't
have to ring my doorbell and
00:45:08.24\00:45:09.89
say John, did you
know that your home,
00:45:09.90\00:45:11.54
I'm using a very
loose illustration here.
00:45:11.95\00:45:14.00
But some people need to
know that they are in Christ,
00:45:14.46\00:45:17.55
they are abiding in Christ,
they are walking in the spirit
00:45:17.56\00:45:21.41
and they need that reference
and I like the way that
00:45:21.87\00:45:24.05
in Ezekiel 37, I preach
the sermon called dry bones.
00:45:24.06\00:45:28.99
You know
everybody talks about that.
00:45:29.00\00:45:31.14
But look at, look at
verse 13 of Ezekiel chapter 37.
00:45:32.10\00:45:37.30
Then you shall know that
I am the Lord when I have
00:45:43.43\00:45:48.17
opened your graves. Oh,
my people and brought you
00:45:48.18\00:45:53.46
up from your graves.
There are a lot of, Oh,
00:45:53.52\00:45:58.24
I don't want to start a
fire John, but I'm gonna start
00:45:58.25\00:46:00.55
to fire. There are a
lot of dead churches.
00:46:00.56\00:46:03.59
People go to the mausoleum,
because they are dead.
00:46:03.60\00:46:07.93
They don't go to
church to worship, right.
00:46:07.94\00:46:10.43
They go to the
mausoleum because they are like,
00:46:10.70\00:46:12.78
they are not walking in the
spirit. They are walking in the
00:46:13.18\00:46:15.02
flesh. They are walking dead
men. Dead men walking as the,
00:46:15.03\00:46:19.44
one of the sermon titles I
have there because they have
00:46:19.88\00:46:22.69
not allowed the spirit of
God to dwell in their lives and
00:46:22.87\00:46:27.61
that's why verse
14 is not a reality.
00:46:27.62\00:46:29.81
Read verse 14 for us,
notice what the Lord is saying,
00:46:29.82\00:46:32.14
he would do. I will put my
spirit in you and you shall live
00:46:32.15\00:46:36.11
and I will place you in your
own land then you shall know
00:46:37.04\00:46:40.56
that I the Lord have
spoken it and performed it,
00:46:40.57\00:46:43.04
says the Lord. Notice,
right away who is doing that?
00:46:43.23\00:46:45.66
The Lord is doing that. He
is not only spoken it but he
00:46:45.67\00:46:48.30
is the one doing it and
that's the whole reference when
00:46:48.31\00:46:50.75
the prophet was
asked, can these bones live?
00:46:51.02\00:46:53.77
And he says well you know
Lord, so this is what the Lord
00:46:55.22\00:46:58.11
will do he will make them
breathe, bring them back from
00:46:58.12\00:47:00.58
their grave to be able to live
in to the true spirit of life,
00:47:00.59\00:47:06.36
through the holy
spirit. And notice he says,
00:47:06.37\00:47:07.96
I cause you to live. You've
got to have, when you go to
00:47:07.97\00:47:12.18
a football game there is
no doubt that those people are
00:47:12.19\00:47:14.81
there for the, they
all unified for one reason.
00:47:14.82\00:47:17.66
Now they may not all support
the same teams but they are,
00:47:17.87\00:47:20.96
they want to see if their
team wins and they are lively
00:47:20.97\00:47:23.62
and vibrant and they are
involved. It is impossible to
00:47:23.63\00:47:27.06
be a Christian and not be
involved and say you are live.
00:47:27.07\00:47:30.28
Can you imagine John? Go
into a football game and you
00:47:30.75\00:47:35.40
are neither supporting,
you are supporting neither team
00:47:35.41\00:47:39.35
and so you sit there.
That your time, I'm not doing
00:47:39.82\00:47:46.62
anything for those of
you who will on the radio.
00:47:46.63\00:47:48.56
No response. You will not
throw whether the ball goes
00:47:50.66\00:47:53.76
that direction or that direction
whether they tumble over
00:47:53.77\00:47:56.32
here or tumble over there.
And when the ball goes the
00:47:56.33\00:47:58.47
field goal, somebody
crosses the goal line.
00:47:58.48\00:48:00.37
Someone has got to
ask you, why are you here?
00:48:01.93\00:48:03.95
Yeah. I mean literally somebody
will say, first of all they
00:48:04.49\00:48:07.80
will jump up because
their team gets the score and
00:48:07.81\00:48:09.73
they are assuming that one
your team when the next team
00:48:09.74\00:48:11.79
scores, you are gonna jump
up. And then next team scores,
00:48:11.80\00:48:14.10
like that guy hasn't moved
all game. He almost want to
00:48:14.11\00:48:17.83
check his pulse or her
pulse and so the point of the
00:48:17.84\00:48:19.96
matter is, we have to
have a living vibrant breathing
00:48:19.97\00:48:22.85
relationship in Jesus Christ
as the spirit abides in us.
00:48:22.86\00:48:26.20
You know the one text it is
commonly misunderstood John,
00:48:26.67\00:48:30.61
is speaking of this very issue
found in First Peter chapter 3.
00:48:31.12\00:48:34.50
Okay, let's go there,
First Peter chapter 3.
00:48:34.58\00:48:37.50
Okay, I went all the way to
Revelation and I don't know.
00:48:38.68\00:48:40.81
First Peter 3 and
verse 18, you know,
00:48:41.39\00:48:43.55
and there is a entire
denomination that stands very,
00:48:43.94\00:48:48.87
this is one of their
main passengers in the Bible,
00:48:48.88\00:48:51.11
that stands
strong on this passage.
00:48:51.12\00:48:53.08
And it's because
of a misunderstanding.
00:48:53.53\00:48:55.15
Okay, I'm gonna go ahead
and circle that one I haven't
00:48:55.24\00:48:57.14
turn. Verse 18, For Christ
also suffered once for sins,
00:48:57.15\00:49:00.72
the just for the unjust,
that he might bring us to God,
00:49:00.73\00:49:03.76
being put to death in the flesh,
but made alive by the Spirit.
00:49:04.61\00:49:07.86
So the context here is being
put to death and then alive
00:49:07.87\00:49:12.09
by the spirit we live in
Christ we have a live through
00:49:12.10\00:49:15.15
the spirit. Oh, God,
got you. And verse 19,
00:49:15.16\00:49:17.49
by whom also he that is
Jesus, went and preached to the
00:49:17.57\00:49:20.79
spirits in prison.
Some will say okay,
00:49:20.80\00:49:24.45
see their spirits down in
hell right down when they are
00:49:24.46\00:49:27.28
in prison and Christ went
down to preach them for a while.
00:49:27.29\00:49:30.31
Watch out. And that's true.
That's not what it's talking
00:49:30.32\00:49:33.61
about here. This says who
formally were disobedient when
00:49:33.62\00:49:37.15
once the divine long-suffering
waited in the days of Noah,
00:49:37.16\00:49:39.97
while the Ark was
being prepared in which few,
00:49:40.35\00:49:42.89
that is eight souls
were saved through water.
00:49:42.90\00:49:45.47
And then it talks about
the subject of baptism and how
00:49:46.69\00:49:49.54
you know we die to our
old sins and we live to God.
00:49:49.55\00:49:52.55
But notice here verse,
chapter 4 verse 1 therefore
00:49:53.54\00:49:55.96
since Christ suffered for
us in the flesh armed yourself
00:49:55.97\00:49:58.51
also with the same mind
for he who has suffered in the
00:49:58.60\00:50:01.15
flesh has ceased from sin
that he no longer should live
00:50:01.16\00:50:05.12
the rest of the time in the
flesh knowing the lusts of men
00:50:05.13\00:50:07.60
but for the will of God. In
other words she is no longer
00:50:07.61\00:50:10.08
dead, but his alive
to the spirit, right.
00:50:10.29\00:50:14.42
So, when Christ's speaking
to or pushing to the but the
00:50:14.43\00:50:18.06
spirits in speaking
to those who are dead,
00:50:18.32\00:50:21.02
if you wanna know how I
write that conclusion look at
00:50:21.03\00:50:25.26
First Peter 4 verse 6, okay,
" For this is the reason the
00:50:25.27\00:50:30.51
gospel was preached
also those who are what,
00:50:30.52\00:50:33.42
dead, dead, same reference
same point Peters making here,
00:50:33.64\00:50:37.03
but he calls them instead
of the spirit and prison now he
00:50:37.04\00:50:39.00
calls them dead. By the
way when you are dead to the
00:50:39.01\00:50:42.81
spirit of God, you are
in prison, who is prison,
00:50:42.82\00:50:47.81
that's right, same
as prison, that's right,
00:50:48.16\00:50:50.30
you're in bondage of sin.
Paul refers over and over again
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to those who understand and
those who are captive to Satan,
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they are in the bondage
of sin they are captive,
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then here for this reason
the gospel is preached also
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to those who are dead that
they might be judged according
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to men in the flesh, but live
according to God in the spirit.
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Again referring to if you're
dead you're living in the flesh
00:51:09.74\00:51:12.59
if you live, if you're
alive you're living in the
00:51:12.71\00:51:14.63
spirit of God. That's all
this passage is talking about,
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but of course we know
there's a whole doctrine made
00:51:18.33\00:51:20.03
upon you know about those
who are alive we need to be
00:51:20.04\00:51:22.98
preach so they can
have a chance to be saved,
00:51:22.99\00:51:24.72
after they have already
died and gonna to hell, anyway.
00:51:24.73\00:51:29.09
That's I am so glad
you brought that up, John,
00:51:29.59\00:51:32.04
because you connected
two things here that a lot of
00:51:32.05\00:51:33.90
people don't necessarily
do. You connected this example
00:51:33.91\00:51:37.41
that's often used to say
the when Jesus died he went to
00:51:37.42\00:51:40.11
hell and preached a sermon
to those who were in the flood
00:51:40.12\00:51:43.54
and were not saved at that
time. But show you that he was
00:51:43.55\00:51:46.79
not reversing the process,
he's saying only 8 were saved
00:51:46.80\00:51:49.85
back then, right, and what
you have to keep in mind is
00:51:49.86\00:51:53.05
Bible says is its pointed
unto men who wants to die and
00:51:53.06\00:51:57.37
after that the
judgment, not the salvation.
00:51:57.59\00:52:00.21
Right, you don't die and
he say oh let me give another
00:52:00.33\00:52:04.29
chance to be saved, that's why
today is the day of salvation,
00:52:04.30\00:52:07.64
today is the time of
acceptance of Christ.
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Now, let me ignore Jesus
when I die maybe he'll come and
00:52:10.03\00:52:13.18
preach to me in
prisons too. You understand how
00:52:13.19\00:52:15.02
diabolical that is, we have
this putted off and if even if
00:52:15.03\00:52:19.05
you mess up and even if
you just don't even get around
00:52:19.06\00:52:21.85
to it, you get a
chance when you go to hell.
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And I am in the context of what
people think about this text,
00:52:25.86\00:52:28.36
right, when you go to
hell, there will be a sermon
00:52:28.37\00:52:31.07
down there. Okay, we
have some, I am just,
00:52:31.08\00:52:33.87
I'm gonna be
very cynical on this.
00:52:33.88\00:52:35.44
We just have some new
people that are and this is the
00:52:35.45\00:52:37.60
ideology people have,
they think when you're wicked,
00:52:37.61\00:52:39.93
you die and go to hell.
And, now, but the Bible,
00:52:39.94\00:52:44.27
but you know the
let me finish my story,
00:52:44.73\00:52:45.97
they think you're
wicked and die and go to hell
00:52:45.98\00:52:47.46
and down there you
get a second chance.
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Why do you think
they baptize the dead...
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they baptized for the
dead. Very good point.
00:52:52.70\00:52:55.18
It's from all from this
passage, a lot of there process,
00:52:55.57\00:52:58.37
a lot of the things they
that are done here today are by
00:52:58.38\00:53:01.22
some are because of
a misinterpretation of
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scripture. But when
you apply correctly,
00:53:03.35\00:53:05.98
you know the reason for
The Rich Man and Lazarus'
00:53:06.51\00:53:09.10
story now. All of a sudden
it becomes clear that when
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you die there is no
second chance, right.
00:53:12.75\00:53:16.21
And that's the parable of
the rich man notice what he said
00:53:16.79\00:53:19.40
very, very carefully he
says, Jesus said to him,
00:53:19.41\00:53:23.14
there is a great gulf fixed,
there is a great gulf fixed.
00:53:23.51\00:53:29.06
Luke chapter 16, okay
verse 26, Beside all this,
00:53:30.31\00:53:36.22
between us and you
there is a great gulf fixed.
00:53:36.34\00:53:40.09
In other words its firm
its not gonna be change.
00:53:40.43\00:53:42.46
So, that those who wanna
pass from here to you cannot
00:53:42.65\00:53:45.94
no can those from
there pass to us, to us.
00:53:46.72\00:53:49.96
There is no gonna back there
is no gonna forward, right,
00:53:50.30\00:53:53.58
what's done is done
when you die that's it.
00:53:53.78\00:53:55.55
So, when people talk
about the spirit who God,
00:53:55.72\00:53:58.05
Jesus went and preached,
what the Bible in essence
00:53:58.23\00:54:00.53
saying is, in Genesis,
when Jesus says, matter of fact,
00:54:00.54\00:54:04.16
let me give you the
reference right now,
00:54:04.17\00:54:05.45
here is why Peter
referenced that story.
00:54:06.24\00:54:08.16
Genesis 6 and verse 3,
this is what was that story was
00:54:08.95\00:54:12.04
all about, when Peter said
in times past he's preached
00:54:12.05\00:54:15.14
to them, spirits in prison,
he was in essence saying,
00:54:15.15\00:54:19.04
back then in Genesis
Chapter 6 and verse 3,
00:54:19.07\00:54:21.21
The Lord says, My spirit
will not always strive with men,
00:54:21.46\00:54:25.68
there you go, those
man who are in prison,
00:54:25.69\00:54:27.89
and through the Holy
Spirit Jesus preached to them
00:54:27.97\00:54:31.84
way back there in
the times of the flood.
00:54:32.09\00:54:34.28
That's right, because it
was Jesus guiding the affairs of
00:54:34.45\00:54:36.82
the people back then.
Exactly, not a second chance
00:54:36.83\00:54:41.12
after Jesus died, he said
we know I know there a lot of
00:54:41.13\00:54:43.92
people died in the flood.
Let me go and talk to them
00:54:43.93\00:54:45.83
while I'm in the
grave for a few days,
00:54:45.84\00:54:47.33
that's not what is
being taught there so.
00:54:47.95\00:54:49.50
Friends, don't get in that
trap. And that's what the rich
00:54:49.75\00:54:53.77
man Lazarus is all about.
So, when you think about it,
00:54:53.78\00:54:57.19
when you narrow it
down, John, where are headed,
00:54:57.72\00:55:00.25
did you have
something for me right now?
00:55:00.26\00:55:01.63
No, I just think that you
know as we talk about the work
00:55:02.38\00:55:06.48
of the Holy Spirit, you know
what he's doing in our lives.
00:55:06.49\00:55:08.46
Right. He's trying to get
us to pass from dead to life.
00:55:08.59\00:55:11.46
That's right. And without
the Holy Spirit as we are saying
00:55:11.70\00:55:15.20
there lot of people in
church today that are not being,
00:55:15.21\00:55:18.96
they are not operating
or walking in this persons,
00:55:19.02\00:55:21.81
our title of this
program is a walk in the spirit.
00:55:21.82\00:55:25.67
They're not walking in the
spirit and that's why you've
00:55:26.07\00:55:28.39
some who are so
mean-spirited within the church,
00:55:28.40\00:55:31.93
in the way they
treat their brethren,
00:55:32.59\00:55:34.71
their brothers and
sisters, and the way they handle
00:55:34.72\00:55:37.47
situations even if they're
right, the way they handle
00:55:37.48\00:55:40.50
them can be devilish, like
that, that's because they are
00:55:40.51\00:55:44.11
operating based upon
knowledge or truth rather than
00:55:44.12\00:55:47.47
allowing a spirit. I
got to bring this text up,
00:55:47.48\00:55:50.06
John, you go forward.
00:55:50.07\00:55:51.04
Jesus said, I am
seeking those who worship me,
00:55:51.95\00:55:55.41
who worship me in the last
days in spirit and in truth.
00:55:55.64\00:55:58.79
John 4 verse 23
and 24. And often is
00:55:58.94\00:56:02.03
Adventist
Christians, I have to confess,
00:56:02.27\00:56:03.93
we've emphasized, see
the truth, is important,
00:56:04.07\00:56:06.89
is important. Let me turn
the figure right back at you.
00:56:06.90\00:56:09.96
Some of you've the truth are
not worshiping God in spirit.
00:56:10.42\00:56:13.75
That's right. And we are
we point other people has oh
00:56:13.98\00:56:18.39
you think you know when
the slings and the spirit,
00:56:18.40\00:56:20.48
I am speaking in
all these tongues, well,
00:56:20.49\00:56:22.02
you think of spirit,
you don't have the truth,
00:56:22.28\00:56:23.42
that's not truth
about that matter.
00:56:23.43\00:56:24.50
I am sorry but many of you
who are in the truth aren't
00:56:24.51\00:56:27.71
in the spirit, you
have the other problem.
00:56:27.72\00:56:30.13
I'm so glad you mentioned
that I met a young man,
00:56:31.66\00:56:33.56
who had been listening to
3ABN from many, many years,
00:56:33.57\00:56:36.53
he's now convicted of
everything that he had heard,
00:56:36.54\00:56:39.12
but he confessed to me
just exactly what you said.
00:56:39.56\00:56:41.84
He says, I am not have
all my dots, my i's dotted
00:56:41.85\00:56:45.75
and my T's crossed, but
now I need to get back in the
00:56:45.76\00:56:48.39
Bible to learn more about
Jesus, because I want to connect
00:56:48.40\00:56:50.66
the two. And that's
where my text come from,
00:56:50.67\00:56:53.18
a very short one, that you
cannot miss First Thessalonians
00:56:53.19\00:56:57.22
chapter 5 and verse
19, only we has five words,
00:56:57.23\00:57:00.44
"Do Not Quench the Spirit."
Are the other words friends,
00:57:01.20\00:57:06.02
and thank you John,
for being that point up.
00:57:06.03\00:57:07.83
There those who are,
who are in the truth as
00:57:08.60\00:57:12.28
important as being in the
spirit for both are necessary
00:57:12.29\00:57:16.11
for your saving relationship
in Jesus Christ to be a
00:57:16.12\00:57:18.99
thriving one, a vibrant one,
an exciting one and one that
00:57:19.00\00:57:24.41
brings forth fruit
for the glory of God.
00:57:24.65\00:57:26.48
So, ask for the Lord to
come into your life and his
00:57:26.49\00:57:29.56
spirit's power
will make a difference.
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Have a great
day in Christ. Amen.
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