Hello friends, grab
your Bible and a friend
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and sit back as
we explore God's word
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together on this
edition of House Calls.
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Welcome to the Bible
journey, that's exactly
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what I said, a Bible
journey. We don't know
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where it's going
to end, at least today
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we don't know but in
eternity hopefully we'll
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all be in the
kingdom together to see
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the living word. But
today welcome to House Calls
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where we speak
about the written word,
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and I'm not by
myself, I have my good friend
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John Stanton. It's
good to be here John,
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studying the word
together. That's right,
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the best place to be,
and by the way this is
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the best place
on earth right now.
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At least we think
so, if we didn't think so
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we wouldn't be here, so
thank you for joining us,
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sit back do not be in
a hurry, hit the record
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button, we're
going to get into the
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word of God today. And
before we do that though
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we always pray
and ask for the Lord
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to lead in our study.
Let's start, let's do that.
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Dear Father in heaven,
we're so grateful to be
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able to come
before your throne here,
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asking for your Holy
Spirit for to lead and
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guide us through your
word. We have some topics
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set here before us,
but Father, we want your
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leading and your
guidance to take us through
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your word, and to
teach us things that maybe
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we haven't thought about before.
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Lord, we just pray
that this whole study
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and everything that is
done will bring honor to
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your name, and it
will give you primary the
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glory in all things,
in Jesus name amen, amen.
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Well, friends as many
of you know this program
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has a lot to do
with Bible questions,
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and where do we get
those questions from?
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We get them from
you, and so before we go
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into our topic
today, which is about
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relationships and we
lay the foundation I believe
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our last program
we'd like to encourage you
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if you have any
Bible questions you wanna
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send to us, send those
to housecalls@3abn.org,
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that's housecalls@3abn.org
and we go to the
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Internet type it
in, download it and
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here they are. So,
when you send questions,
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I think you can
guarantee that they maybe
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addressed or answered
if you make them succinct
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into the point,
when you make them books
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we try to send them off
to the Library of Congress
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but they don't accept it either.
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Anyhow we're here today
and John is going to begin
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with out first Bible
question, what do you
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have for us John?
Well, I have a question that
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has come up several
times in the past and
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you know we try to,
to explain it and to
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share at least
biblically with some good
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hermeneutics,
okay, you know when I say
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what that word hermeneutics says
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a lot of people don't
pay a lot of attention to it.
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But hermeneutics are
something that brings all
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the scriptures together,
the harmony of everything
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together as we
interpret maybe a verse or
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a passage in its
proper context. And so anyway
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this one is often
taken out of context John,
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this scripture that
this question comes from.
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This Gallon Nancy
says, that she is currently
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conducting a Bible
study with a lady who's been
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taught the Genesis
6:1 to 4 teaches that
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evil angels come down
from heaven, had relations
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with women and produce
giants, I mean with men,
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with humans, okay.
Relations with women,
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oh I got it,
humans and produce giants,
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I'm having trouble
finding the proper scripture
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to show that
the sons of God were
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descendants of Seth
and the daughters of men
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were descendants of
Cain. She wants to know
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specifically where
the Bible says this.
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Okay, well thank
you very much Nancy for
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sending this question
in. The Bible is actually
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very clear about
that, that the two chapters
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previous to Genesis
chapter 6 do reveal very
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clearly and succinctly
the genealogy of Cain,
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and the genealogy
of Seth, and in fact in
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genealogy of
Seth, Adam is mentioned.
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So, it starts with Adam.
In the genealogy of Cain,
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guess who that starts
with? Cain, so clearly
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we have two descendants,
Adam who was created by
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God himself, is spoken
of as having a line down
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through Seth and so
we have his genealogy.
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Starting with chapter
5 all down through well
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the entire chapter,
chapter 5 down through verse 32
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is all about the
godly that is Seth's line
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beginning with Adam.
Now, Cain, Cain's line
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begins at Genesis 4
verse 16 and it goes on
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there down and talks
about his line and that is
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speaking of the
ungodly or those that were not
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the sons of God,
but the sons of men.
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And so then when
you get to the chapter 6
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you actually see the
conflict, the controversy
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really begin to unfold
John, as I think probably
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where as maybe the
Great Controversy begins
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in chapter 3 with
the temptation of Eve and
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then the fall of
both Adam and Eve.
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We find in chapter 6
the controversy of the
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descendants of
those beginning to unfold,
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the controversy
between the sons of God
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and the sons of men,
or the daughters of men
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as referred to here.
And we'll pick it up with
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the verse 1: Now it
came to pass, when men
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began to multiply on
the face of the earth,
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and daughters were
born to them, that the
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sons of God saw
the daughters of men,
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that they were
beautiful; and they took wives
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for themselves of
all whom they chose.
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Okay, alright, so
let's look at this first John
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because there is
something that I think
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those who teach
falsely scripture.
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We'll try to do that we
as honest seekers of God's
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word should make
sure that we do not
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allow them to do it.
And I'm speaking very much
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in legal language
here, because this is,
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this is often what
has happened, what happens
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in a court room, where
a lawyer will try to pull
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in some presuppositions
and things that really
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aren't true, premise
that is false, right,
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build off that premises,
to premise to establish
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some kind of a logic
conclusion, a logical
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conclusion that is
false. And so here's what I
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mean by that,
immediately when anyone is
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discussing this
passage, sons of God,
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daughters of men
they do one specific thing
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pertaining to the
fallen angels. And that is
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Satan and the third
of the angels that were
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cast out of heaven
and here's what they do,
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here's where the
false premise comes.
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They immediately
scribe to them the ability
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to propagate, to
procreate, right, that's right.
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That is an
assumption that you have to make
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in this passage to
interpret the way that
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many interpret it today
which is that evil angels
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saw the women that
were beautiful, came down
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took wives of them,
and had relations with them
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and then they had
giants that were born to them
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which are descendants
of these fallen angels.
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And you have to, to
accept that kind of a
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conclusion or
interpretation of this,
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you have to say as a
premise that angels have
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the ability to
procreate. And that's called
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another theological
term I say Jesus adding,
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adding new text,
something it's not there, right.
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There is not a single,
not one scripture anywhere
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in God's word that
ever even implies that
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angels were given
the ability to procreate,
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no, it just doesn't
exist. Matter of fact when
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the Bible refers to
sons of God, the only time
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you can find a phrase
that you could try your
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best to twist as in
Job 2:1 when it says:
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And there was a day
when the sons of God
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came to present
themselves before the Lord,
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and Satan came also
among them to present
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himself before the
Lord. That's the only place
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that you could, you
know you could twist
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and then you find the
other verse, these are the
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verses that they
take out of context though
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in Job 38 verse 7:
When the morning stars
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sang together, and
all the sons of God
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shouted for joy? Showing
two different categories,
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the morning stars
which are the angels,
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stars were
angels, singing together,
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and the sons of
God godly, godly men,
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rejoiced and
sang before the Lord.
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But the proper context
for those, the inference
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here in Genesis 6 is
in John 1 and verse 12
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and in Romans 8 and verse 14
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and Romans 8 and
verse 19, and here they are.
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But as many, this
is John 1 verse 12:
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But as many as
receive him, to them he gave
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power to become the sons of God,
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and so when it talks
about the sons of God
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came unto the
daughter of men. You followed
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the history and this
is something that is very
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interesting, as long
as the children of Israel,
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as long as godly men
remains separate from
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ungodly women. This
is the foundation for
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much of what Solomon
writes, strange women
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will turn your
heart away from God,
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as long as they remains
separate, then there was
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no degradation of
the morality of the races
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that God created. And
the biggest concern was
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that these women
would get them to begin to
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worship their false
Gods that were from these
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other nations, and that
was the biggest concern,
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the Lord knew that would happen.
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Example Ahab and
Jezebel, right, prime example,
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example Samson and
Delilah, right, you see
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those examples you find
again Samson, a man that
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God chose, Delilah, a
woman God did not choose,
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the daughters of
men, the daughter of man.
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Jezebel, the daughter
of man, Ethbaal that was
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the God that they
worshiped, Baal the God
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tbat she
worshiped, daughters of men.
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Ahab, God choose
him a King, son of God,
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but when he linked
himself what happened?
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He went down, she
didn't come up, right,
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and see then what
happens. So, and then
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Romans 1:14, Romans
8:14: For as many as are
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led by the Spirit of
God, they are the sons of God.
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And so John you have
the proper context here,
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this is not talking
about angels procreating and
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impregnating them,
because angels are not
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beings that were told to
be fruitful and multiply.
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That's right, in fact
they serve the Lord in
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the heavens and they
were the host and if the
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word angel is
messenger or one who ministers,
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and so they were
the ones that did God's
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bidding as things
needed to go forward and,
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and the government
begin to operate and
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you know we have this
very narrow minded view
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too that maybe this
world is the only one,
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earth is the only
world that God created.
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I believe differently,
and I believe that God's
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government was not
only created and established
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by Him based upon
His laws, but the ones
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that He choose to
begin to put into operation
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and to conduct
the operation of that
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government were the
heavenly host, right,
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the angels. They
were never told to be
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fruitful and multiply,
no. If that was the case
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what would the
angels, the fallen angels be
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doing most significantly
after He only took a third,
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He would try to procreate
as fast as He could evil,
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evil angels to grow
His army and to be able to
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conquer the enemy,
the foe which was God's,
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God's army. There
is no evidence of that
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happening, no, not at
all. And so here's why
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I start off that way,
because usually I started
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off by saying well
the sons of God are these,
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the sons and
daughters of men are these,
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which you stated
very clearly, that's an
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important point.
But the reasons I say it
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because the burden
of proof is not on you
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to prove that this isn't
fallen angels were having
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relationships with
men or with women, right.
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The burden of proof
is on them to show that
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angels have the
ability to procreate, because
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there is no
evidence whatsoever of that
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anywhere in scripture.
In fact all the evidence
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John, there is, this
is, I wouldn't call it
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acts of Jesus, I
would say is probably good
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acts of Jesus which is
what we're suppose to be
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doing, pulling out of
the text what's there,
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I think it's there is
good evidence, so to suggest
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that one of the reasons
that Satan was so jealous
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Adam and Eve was
their ability to procreate.
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Right. they could
not, that's a very good.
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He could not, they
could. He looked upon them
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as hey what's going on
here, and sought to bring
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that, them down. He
also saw a way that he
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could create a vast
army of people that would
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be sympathizers of
his, you know not just the
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third that he took,
but hey if I can get them
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who can procreate
to propagate evil,
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I can have a kingdom of
my own. You see there is
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evidence that suggests
that he couldn't which is
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why he sought the
world to take it down because
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they could, Adam and
Eve could. That's right.
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So, I'm looking here
and I'm saying the evidence
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of burden of proof is
on them to establish that
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there is an ability of
the angels, the fallen angels
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to procreate,
it's just not there.
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And angels are never
referred to as beings that
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formed in the image of
God, or even men or women,
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men or women, right
they're not referred to
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in a context of
agenda, very, very good point.
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Who said the angels
are men, who says they
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are women, they
are not them neither.
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And they only take on
the form of the appearance
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that, that the Lord
allows them to in order to
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communicate to us.
But here's the point,
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well here's another
scripture I should say to
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build this point on,
Hebrews 1 verse 13 and 14
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once again given the
clear identity of who
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the angels are. But
to which of the angels
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did He said any
time: Sit at My right hand,
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till I make your
enemies your footstool?
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Are they not all
ministering spirits sent
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forth to minister for
those who will inherit
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salvation? They are
not procreating beings,
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they are ministering
spirits, and so you are
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talking about some
serious stuff here, yeah.
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You know, I don't
want to even go down that
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road, yeah. It just,
it doesn't make sense,
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it just really is an
argument that makes me
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say oh! I don't
even know where the basis
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for this is coming
from, because there's a lot of
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thought doesn't go
into it. You know the
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last thing I would say
will, some would suggest
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well how did giant,
how are there giants then?
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Well, the record in
history will establish
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and show can show
very clearly that as you go
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back in time, there
maybe sometimes where they
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were some very small
you know men and women
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during times especially
with earth was challenged
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through disasters and
other things that happened.
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But some of the record,
the fossilized record is
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actually showing that
there were some pretty
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tall beings that
existed back in time.
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That's right, so you
know, that's your lineage
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for example, that's
right. You're 6' 9½, 6' 10;
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surely John is from
the lineage of Enoch,
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the giants. Surely
I'm, I'm not a descendant of
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the daughter of
men now. Tribe of Gad,
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remember that, but
anyway all jokes aside
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truly friends what
we're saying here is
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the creation of men,
the creation of man formed
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in the image of
God, women taken from the
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side of men. When one
goes away, strays away,
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daughters of men, one
is called to follow God,
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sons of God, that's
simply what that's saying,
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that's the best way
to, nothing more than that,
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that's right. Here's
another text, they just
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gave me the text and
I think that they want
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an answer to this.
Please help me understand
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this verse I am a
Sabbath keeper and the text
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that they're asking
for, matter of fact go
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with us to Colossians 2
verse 16, John this is a,
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this is kind of
a, this is a regular,
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common one yup. Yeah
this guys shows up a lot.
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We try not to give it
as much press as others
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give it, because if
we answer this every time
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it came up, we'd
answer it in every program,
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every program,
almost every program.
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Colossians 2 we're
gonna read verse, start with
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verse 14, okay,
speaking of Christ and
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not legalism, this
particular text by the way
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we're referring to the
importance of Christology
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centering our hopes
on Christ. But Paul was
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addressing an issue
that, that was bordering on
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legalism where people
were talking about meats
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and drinks and new
moons and Sabbaths.
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And by the way let's
go ahead and I'll read
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this together, it
says speaking about Christ:
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"Having wiped out
the handwriting of
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requirements that
was against us, which was
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contrary to us. And He
has taken it out of the
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way having
nailed it to the cross.
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Having disarmed
principalities and powers,
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He made a public
spectacle of them,
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triumphing over them in
it." So let no one judge
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you in food or in
drink, or regarding a festival
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or a new moon or
Sabbaths, key part of the verse:
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Which are a
shadow of things to come,
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but the substance is
of Christ. Now how could
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festivals and new
moons and Sabbath be a
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shadow of things to
come, this Sabbaths and I think
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that's the focal
point of the question,
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a new moon or
Sabbaths, meat or drinks.
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If you look at that
entire context you'll see the
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Bible talks about a
ceremonial system that had
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everything to do
with meats and drinks and,
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various washings
and carnal ordinances,
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go with me to the
book of Hebrews. Hebrews,
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I refer to as the,
some people look at Hebrew
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almost as a displaced
book, because it has so
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much Old
Testament language in it.
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But Hebrews is
not a displaced book,
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let's go ahead and I'm
gonna read to you verse,
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verse 1 of Hebrews
chapter 10, verse 1 of Hebrews
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chapter 10: For the
law, having a shadow of good
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things to come, and
not the very image of
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those things, can
never with these same
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sacrifices, which they
continually, which they
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continually year by
year, which they offer
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continually year
by year make those who
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approach perfect. For
then would they have a
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ceased to be
offered? For the worshipers,
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once purged,
would have had no more
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conscience of sins.
But in those sacrifices
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there is a
reminder of sins every year,
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every year, in other
words. So, the shadow
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involves
sacrifices, the shadow involves
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sacrifices, not
the moral law of God,
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not the moral law
of God. Matter of fact,
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when you look at the
ordinances let's go back
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to Hebrews 9,
Hebrews 9 and it says,
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now in verse 6,
Hebrews 9 verse 6:
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Now when these things
had been thus prepared,
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the priests always went
into the first part of the
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tabernacle,
performing the services.
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But into the second
part the high priest went
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alone once a
year, not without blood,
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which he offered
for himself and for the
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people's sins
committed in ignorance.
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The Holy Spirit
indicating this, that the way
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into the Holiest of
All was not yet made
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manifest while the
first tabernacle was
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still standing. And
let's look at this verse 10,
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it talks about
what these things were,
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it says speaking
about these ordinances
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if you look at verse
9: Even the first covenant
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had ordinances of
divine service and the
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earthly sanctuary.
But verse 10 tells you
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what they stood in
concerning only with
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foods or meat as
the King James Version
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says and drinks
various washings and fleshy or
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carnal ordinances,
imposed until the time
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of reformation.
Breaking all that down is simply
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this, the Sabbaths
that were referred to the,
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they are outlined and
let's look at few of those
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Sabbaths, because
there are many Sabbaths
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referred to in
the Old Testament.
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And by the way these
Sabbaths are ceremonial
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observances and but
the Bible Sabbath that was
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blessed by God the
weekly Seventh-day Sabbath
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was made at the end
of creation week before
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sin ever entered
the world. Do you wanna
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register on that
before we go any further?
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No, the point is very
well made and the thing
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I would add is that
the ceremonial Sabbaths
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were always
referred to by the Lord as
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belonging to
Israel, right, where as the
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Seventh-day Sabbath
he always referred to
00:20:44.17\00:20:45.80
as being his very
own. As the matter of fact
00:20:45.81\00:20:47.92
he referred to the
ceremony Sabbaths as
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her Sabbaths in
Hosea, right. Her Sabbaths,
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but when he referred to
his, he says my Sabbaths,
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but now let's look at
some Sabbaths that refer to,
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and by the way the word
Sabbath means convocation.
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So, there were many
Sabbaths talked about
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in the ceremonial
system that had nothing to do
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with the weekly
Sabbath that was given at the
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end of creation week.
Let's look at Leviticus
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chapter 23 turn
your Bibles there,
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Leviticus chapter 23
alright, and we're going
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to see some here. Okay,
and I'm turning to that,
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and here we are okay, okay
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Leviticus chapter 23
verse, verse let's start
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with verse 39,
I'm gonna jump around
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a little bit here.
"Also on the fifteenth day of
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the seventh month,
when you have gather in
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the fruit of the
land, you shall keep the
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feast of the
Lord for seven days;
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when on the first day
there shall be a sabbath-rest,
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and on the eighth
day a sabbath-rest.
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Notice that, not
seventh day, it says first day
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and eighth day, these
were ceremonial rituals,
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and notice what he is
referring to the feast of
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the Lord. But now
let's look at verse 24:
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"Speak to the
children of Israel, saying:
00:22:12.67\00:22:15.68
'In the seventh
month, on the first day of
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the month, you
shall have a sabbath-rest,
00:22:19.69\00:22:23.25
a memorial of
blowing of trumpets,
00:22:23.26\00:22:25.89
a holy convocation.
And these weren't falling
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always on the
seventh day, no it was rare
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in fact, that they
did, these were following on
00:22:32.94\00:22:35.32
various days
according to whenever that
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like in this case the
first day of the month
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in the seventh month fell on.
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Here's another one of
verse, verse 32, verse 32:
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It shall be to you a
Sabbath of solemn rest,
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you shall afflict your
souls; on the ninth day
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of the month at evening,
from evening to evening,
00:23:00.64\00:23:03.32
you shall
celebrate your Sabbath."
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So you see there when was this,
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the ninth day you
have the first day,
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you have the eight
day, you have the ninth day,
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you also had the
seventh year rest which was
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refer to as a cycle
or like a jubilee cycle,
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but here's another
one, verse, verse 2,
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well actually
verse, Leviticus chapter 25
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verse 2 and verse 4:
"Speak to the children of
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Israel, and say to
them, When you come into the
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land which I give you,
then the land shall keep
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a Sabbath to the
Lord, the land now.
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But Mark chapter 2
verse 27 and 28 says,
00:23:39.50\00:23:42.07
the Sabbath was made
for man, but here you find
00:23:42.08\00:23:45.02
the land and what
that actually meant was
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every seven years
when they follow the
00:23:47.94\00:23:49.68
agricultural
cycles. In the seventh year
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if I had seven parcels
of land, I would let the
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land that I build,
that I harvested rest in the
00:23:56.36\00:24:00.69
seventh year. So, that
it will replenish itself
00:24:00.70\00:24:03.53
that was the land
taking rest. Here's another one
00:24:03.54\00:24:06.76
look at verse 4 of
Leviticus chapter 25:
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But in the seventh
year there shall be a
00:24:11.31\00:24:14.28
Sabbath of solemn
rest for the land,
00:24:14.29\00:24:17.27
a Sabbath to the
Lord. You shall neither sow
00:24:17.86\00:24:21.29
your field nor
prune your vineyard.
00:24:21.30\00:24:24.16
All these Sabbath
rests, these were shadows
00:24:24.53\00:24:27.22
though, of over to
come and by the way
00:24:27.23\00:24:30.04
some of the other
ones John you had the
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Passover which
was the Sabbath rest,
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you have the Feast of
Tabernacles as Sabbath
00:24:34.46\00:24:36.31
rest, you have the
Feast of Wheat or the
00:24:36.32\00:24:39.77
Wave Sheaf offering,
all these were referred
00:24:39.78\00:24:41.57
to as Sabbaths
but what do they mean?
00:24:41.58\00:24:43.29
They pointed to the
coming of the Messiah,
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and I wind it up by
going to the book of Galatians,
00:24:45.98\00:24:48.60
all these things
were shadows that's why
00:24:48.96\00:24:50.93
the Bible says Paul
was saying let no one judge
00:24:50.94\00:24:54.27
you now in meats and
drinks, and new moon,
00:24:54.28\00:24:56.14
and Sabbaths, because
the substance has come,
00:24:56.15\00:24:59.54
the substance has come and the
00:24:59.55\00:25:01.28
substance is Christ.
That's to whom all these
00:25:01.29\00:25:05.29
ceremonies pointed
and here's the point,
00:25:05.30\00:25:08.17
you wanna make a
point before I go further.
00:25:08.18\00:25:09.79
No, finish your
point. Okay, hear this,
00:25:10.33\00:25:12.12
Galatians 3 verse
19, Galatians 3 verse 19:
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What purpose then
does the law serve?
00:25:18.88\00:25:21.60
And catch this: It
was added because of
00:25:22.08\00:25:26.55
transgressions, till
the Seed should come to whom
00:25:26.56\00:25:30.40
the promise was
made; and it was appointed
00:25:30.41\00:25:33.31
through angels by
the hand of a mediator.
00:25:33.32\00:25:37.57
Now, these ceremonial
rituals were not in the
00:25:37.58\00:25:40.28
beginning when God
bless the world at the
00:25:40.29\00:25:42.70
end of creation
week, they were added after
00:25:42.71\00:25:45.38
the fall of men, and
they were added for a time
00:25:45.39\00:25:48.20
until the seed should
come and who is the seed?
00:25:48.21\00:25:51.78
The seed is Christ,
alright these were the shadows,
00:25:52.32\00:25:54.79
that's a nutshell of
it. Yeah you know Daniel
00:25:55.29\00:25:56.92
also in his prayer, in
Daniel 9 talks about these
00:25:57.44\00:26:01.71
two laws that's what
he was essentially saying
00:26:01.72\00:26:03.52
here, there are two
laws that refer to throughout
00:26:03.53\00:26:06.57
the New Testament
and the Old Testament,
00:26:06.58\00:26:08.93
but what happens
is when you get to the
00:26:08.94\00:26:11.64
New Testament, it's a
little less clear until you
00:26:11.65\00:26:15.41
really dive into the
language which law its
00:26:15.42\00:26:17.74
referring to, you
know what I'm saying?
00:26:17.75\00:26:19.38
In the Old
Testament you really know,
00:26:19.39\00:26:20.67
because the context
is there and they are
00:26:20.68\00:26:22.36
clearly talking about
the law in its form, right.
00:26:22.37\00:26:26.08
But in New
Testament, so many times
00:26:26.09\00:26:27.65
just says law,
right, into the law.
00:26:27.66\00:26:29.35
So, we have to go back
and link the language of
00:26:29.36\00:26:32.62
the context of the
New Testament back to
00:26:32.63\00:26:34.90
the old to see. And if
you look in Daniel chapter 9,
00:26:34.91\00:26:38.13
Daniel 9, lets go
there, verse 10, okay, and 11,
00:26:38.14\00:26:42.30
you'll see something
here that Daniel is praying
00:26:42.31\00:26:44.25
recognizing the
two although the bases,
00:26:44.26\00:26:49.29
the reasons for the
two laws and he says
00:26:49.30\00:26:51.70
here in verse 10:
We have not obeyed,
00:26:51.71\00:26:54.28
speaking to the
Lord in his prayer,
00:26:54.29\00:26:55.76
we have not obeyed the
voice of the Lord our God
00:26:55.77\00:26:58.36
to walk in His laws,
which He has set before us by
00:26:58.81\00:27:01.94
His servants the
prophets. Yes, all Israel
00:27:01.95\00:27:05.27
has transgressed
Your law, okay, now okay,
00:27:05.28\00:27:09.85
so His law the law
of God, and then what is
00:27:09.86\00:27:13.84
happened and has
departed so as not to
00:27:13.85\00:27:15.91
obey Your voice;
therefore the curse of the oath
00:27:15.92\00:27:18.22
written in the Law
of Moses, that's right,
00:27:18.23\00:27:20.73
Moses law, okay
that's isn't God's law,
00:27:20.74\00:27:23.15
one refer to His law of
Moses the servant of God
00:27:23.82\00:27:26.83
has been poured out
on us, because we have
00:27:26.84\00:27:28.70
sinned against Him.
So, the reason I bring
00:27:28.71\00:27:31.45
that passage up is
because John the law of
00:27:31.46\00:27:34.07
God has always
existed, that's right,
00:27:34.08\00:27:36.69
the Ten Commandment
law of God has always
00:27:36.70\00:27:38.36
existed, and it's
because of the, the people sin
00:27:38.37\00:27:42.39
against that law,
that the law of Moses
00:27:42.40\00:27:45.94
and it ceremonies were
added to the list of all
00:27:45.95\00:27:50.17
the laws given to the
children of Israel, right.
00:27:50.18\00:27:52.68
That's why in the
most holy place you had
00:27:53.19\00:27:56.77
the Ark of the
Covenant, the covenant being the
00:27:56.78\00:28:00.97
foundation of His
plan of salvation and the
00:28:00.98\00:28:04.23
Ten Commandment law
that resides in that
00:28:04.24\00:28:06.40
Ark of the
Covenant, that's right.
00:28:06.41\00:28:08.03
Then you have the
Law of Moses which they
00:28:08.04\00:28:09.81
placed outside of the
Ark against it as a witness,
00:28:09.82\00:28:13.53
a testimony against the
children of Israel on the
00:28:13.54\00:28:15.80
side to testify to
them that they broke
00:28:15.81\00:28:18.58
the foundational law of God.
00:28:18.59\00:28:20.63
So, as Paul is coming
back here in Colossians 2
00:28:21.59\00:28:24.02
what he is saying to
the people here in the
00:28:24.03\00:28:25.73
church is, some of you
are fighting about going
00:28:25.74\00:28:28.20
back to this Law of
Moses, and the ceremony
00:28:28.21\00:28:31.37
specifically the
ceremonies that were added
00:28:31.38\00:28:33.47
because of the
laws you transgressed
00:28:33.48\00:28:36.13
God's
commandment you transgressed.
00:28:36.14\00:28:38.59
But when Christ went
to the cross he nailed
00:28:39.20\00:28:42.17
those ceremonies, He
fulfilled all those things
00:28:42.18\00:28:44.28
and He put them on
the cross along with the
00:28:44.29\00:28:47.02
reality of the
sacrifice Himself.
00:28:47.03\00:28:49.91
And from here
going forward by faith we
00:28:50.63\00:28:52.86
trust in Jesus, who has
accomplished those things
00:28:52.87\00:28:55.99
for us, yet it
doesn't change the standing of
00:28:56.00\00:28:58.37
the moral law of
God, the Ten Commandments.
00:28:58.38\00:29:00.08
No it doesn't. And
so Paul is saying here
00:29:00.09\00:29:02.69
nothing to do about
the Ten Commandments,
00:29:03.10\00:29:04.55
but the law of
the ceremonies of the
00:29:04.56\00:29:06.86
sanctuary, and the
sacrifices that they point
00:29:06.87\00:29:10.21
to Christ, and
so people throw out
00:29:10.22\00:29:13.61
what you call the
baby with the bath water
00:29:13.62\00:29:15.32
they say oh! This
is all the Law of God;
00:29:15.33\00:29:16.97
this is the Ten
Commandments not so,
00:29:16.98\00:29:18.96
right. The
reference here clearly is to
00:29:18.97\00:29:21.44
the Law of Moses
specifically with regard
00:29:21.45\00:29:23.64
to the ceremonies.
And so if you followed the
00:29:23.65\00:29:25.53
shadow which is the
tail of the actual image,
00:29:25.54\00:29:28.51
why would you need
the shadow when you
00:29:28.94\00:29:30.90
get to the image, that's right.
00:29:30.91\00:29:32.52
You don't need
the shadow any longer,
00:29:32.95\00:29:34.20
the ceremony of
the lamb that was slain
00:29:34.63\00:29:36.71
in the Old
Testament referred to the lamb
00:29:36.72\00:29:38.84
Christ Jesus, that's
why when Jesus was crucified
00:29:38.85\00:29:41.19
the lamb, the
physical little lamb that was
00:29:41.63\00:29:44.17
about to be killed was set free,
00:29:44.18\00:29:45.58
because the lamb of God Jesus
00:29:45.59\00:29:47.63
was the one that
has given His life.
00:29:47.64\00:29:49.40
When the high
priest, when the, the temple
00:29:49.84\00:29:52.95
curtains were torn
from top to bottom bringing
00:29:52.96\00:29:55.56
to end the earthly
high priest function,
00:29:55.57\00:29:57.84
because Jesus now
become the higher priest,
00:29:57.85\00:30:00.10
all those were
shadows. The Candelabra,
00:30:00.11\00:30:04.31
the seven golden candlesticks,
00:30:04.32\00:30:05.72
pointing to Jesus
the light of the world.
00:30:05.73\00:30:08.35
The Laver which was
water pointed to Jesus,
00:30:08.83\00:30:11.32
the water of life.
The table of Showbread
00:30:11.33\00:30:14.50
pointed to Jesus,
the bread of life,
00:30:14.51\00:30:16.31
why do we need to go
back to that Showbread
00:30:16.32\00:30:18.29
after Jesus comes when
we got the bread of life
00:30:18.30\00:30:20.84
right among us, that's right.
00:30:20.85\00:30:22.32
See, so that's what
it's saying all these were
00:30:22.33\00:30:23.98
shadows of things and
they were all encroached,
00:30:23.99\00:30:26.75
and all the
observances were encroached in
00:30:26.76\00:30:28.56
something
called Sabbaths plural,
00:30:28.57\00:30:31.48
that's why you find
meats, drinks, holidays,
00:30:31.49\00:30:34.70
holy days, new moons
and sabbath days that's
00:30:34.71\00:30:37.04
what you find. Let me give them
00:30:37.05\00:30:38.02
one more text and some
of you like to write down
00:30:38.03\00:30:39.60
text and I'm not
gonna read this one but you
00:30:39.61\00:30:41.24
like to write them
down compares specifically
00:30:41.25\00:30:43.99
Colossians 2:14 and 16
with 1 Chronicles 23:31,
00:30:44.00\00:30:51.62
okay. Do your own research,
00:30:51.63\00:30:53.94
I want you to compare
those two and see what
00:30:53.95\00:30:55.94
Paul possibly could
be referring to in this
00:30:55.95\00:30:58.58
passage as you go
back to 1 Chronicles 23:31,
00:30:58.59\00:31:01.52
okay, alright, good.
Wow, we covered some pretty
00:31:01.53\00:31:06.05
good questions here
today, some of that required
00:31:06.06\00:31:08.04
sometime. But thank
you for your questions
00:31:08.05\00:31:10.19
and your comments.
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00:31:10.20\00:31:12.13
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00:31:12.14\00:31:14.48
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00:31:14.49\00:31:17.57
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00:31:17.58\00:31:21.83
appreciate your
participation in making
00:31:21.84\00:31:24.40
this program all that it is.
00:31:24.41\00:31:25.73
Well, we're gonna
continue in relationships
00:31:25.74\00:31:30.04
John we started by
laying the foundation,
00:31:30.05\00:31:31.92
looking back in the
Garden of Eden when God bless
00:31:31.93\00:31:35.13
the earth with
a man and a woman.
00:31:35.14\00:31:37.90
Pastor C.A once said he says:
00:31:37.91\00:31:40.88
we all have different mothers,
00:31:42.19\00:31:43.46
but we have the same father.
00:31:43.47\00:31:45.52
Now, when you think about that,
00:31:45.53\00:31:47.13
Adam is our
father, Eve is the original
00:31:47.83\00:31:50.85
mother right, but what
he in essence is saying
00:31:50.86\00:31:53.77
we're all have
the Lord as our God,
00:31:53.78\00:31:55.98
but in the earth the
gift that God has given be
00:31:55.99\00:32:00.17
fruitful and multiply,
and replenish the earth.
00:32:00.18\00:32:03.99
So, a lot of
people nowadays and you
00:32:05.73\00:32:07.49
kind of a tongue-in-cheek
say you're my brother
00:32:07.50\00:32:10.88
from another mother.
You know, you heard that
00:32:10.89\00:32:13.21
phrase before? Yeah, yeah,
00:32:13.22\00:32:14.19
my brother from another mother.
00:32:14.20\00:32:15.96
But we talked about
how important it is not to
00:32:15.97\00:32:19.60
get caught up in the
ethereal transient things
00:32:19.61\00:32:22.78
that people think
are the foundation of
00:32:22.79\00:32:25.33
relationships. You
know if I brought some
00:32:25.34\00:32:28.09
shingles to your
house to put on the roof,
00:32:28.10\00:32:30.27
and I didn't lay a foundation,
00:32:30.28\00:32:32.26
didn't put walls
up, didn't have anything
00:32:32.27\00:32:33.89
to put on there
you'll say what's,
00:32:33.90\00:32:35.09
what's that all about?
Well, I don't want it to
00:32:35.10\00:32:37.11
rain on you when it
rains where is the rest of
00:32:37.12\00:32:40.58
it you see? And
many people start from
00:32:40.59\00:32:42.50
the top instead of
from the bottom, yeah.
00:32:42.51\00:32:44.16
So, let's look at some
of these things, alright.
00:32:44.17\00:32:45.98
Let's do that,
we're talking about
00:32:45.99\00:32:47.75
relationships now and
I, you know naturally when
00:32:47.76\00:32:50.55
you go back to relationships,
00:32:50.56\00:32:51.76
you've got to
start with the marriage
00:32:51.77\00:32:53.19
relationship which is
where we began here in the
00:32:53.20\00:32:56.05
last program. And then
as we move forward here
00:32:56.06\00:32:58.54
to talk about the
marriage relationship I
00:32:58.55\00:33:00.11
think one of the
things we covered is,
00:33:00.12\00:33:01.38
how can a marriage
become not just a marriage but
00:33:01.39\00:33:04.83
a great marriage?
What kind of things do
00:33:04.84\00:33:07.35
you need to do, we talked about
00:33:07.36\00:33:08.44
some things
leading up to marriage.
00:33:08.45\00:33:09.63
You know how you're
coding them and making sure
00:33:09.64\00:33:13.67
that your mind is
working, not just your
00:33:13.68\00:33:15.10
emotions, that's right.
You're trusting the Lord,
00:33:15.11\00:33:17.33
you are saying Lord if
this isn't meant to be I'm
00:33:17.34\00:33:19.87
okay with you ending
this relationship early.
00:33:19.88\00:33:22.41
I think John you made
the comment it's better
00:33:22.42\00:33:24.12
to cry now than
later, that's right.
00:33:24.13\00:33:26.28
So there are lots of
things we saw as far as
00:33:26.29\00:33:28.06
leading up to
marriage and what to look for,
00:33:28.07\00:33:29.79
and making sure
that you are compatible,
00:33:29.80\00:33:31.17
having some counseling
that you go through making
00:33:31.18\00:33:34.08
sure that you are
compatible in other ways,
00:33:34.09\00:33:35.70
not just your belief system.
00:33:35.71\00:33:37.18
But, now we're
getting to, we are starting to
00:33:37.19\00:33:40.16
talk to those who are married,
00:33:40.17\00:33:41.29
and how do you stay married?
00:33:41.30\00:33:43.19
How do you make your
marriage an effective
00:33:43.20\00:33:45.18
marriage, one that is
successful that honors God
00:33:45.19\00:33:48.29
and gives Him glory?
And there are several
00:33:48.30\00:33:50.28
things that we haven't
talked about yet that we
00:33:50.29\00:33:52.31
would like to do.
But one of them that we
00:33:52.32\00:33:54.47
did mention was that
you never stop coding your
00:33:54.48\00:33:58.58
spouse, that's
right. You do those things
00:33:58.59\00:34:01.52
that let them know
that you are thinking
00:34:01.53\00:34:03.72
about them. I
think come on guys,
00:34:03.73\00:34:05.81
one of the biggest
knocks on us is we far too few
00:34:05.82\00:34:09.96
times do we ever
let them know in someway
00:34:09.97\00:34:13.89
whether be flowers,
little gifts something that
00:34:13.90\00:34:15.95
we were thinking
about them that day.
00:34:15.96\00:34:18.09
We just, we're not
wired, when our spouse,
00:34:18.82\00:34:23.57
my wife comes to
me and says John,
00:34:23.58\00:34:26.04
I was thinking about you today.
00:34:26.05\00:34:27.27
I'm thinking
cool, you know hope they
00:34:27.28\00:34:29.69
were good thoughts.
But if I say to her, honey,
00:34:29.70\00:34:34.37
my day was busy but I
was thinking about you
00:34:34.38\00:34:37.03
today. She goes
really; it's more to her that
00:34:37.04\00:34:42.62
means more to her,
because she operates
00:34:42.63\00:34:45.41
from an emotional
connection perspective,
00:34:45.42\00:34:48.30
it's a oneness she has with me,
00:34:48.31\00:34:50.24
and she wants to know
that I'm thinking about her
00:34:50.25\00:34:52.56
more than I care about that,
00:34:52.57\00:34:54.26
yes it's important that
my wife thinks about me,
00:34:54.27\00:34:56.23
but it doesn't make me melt,
00:34:56.24\00:34:58.16
what makes me melt,
you should melt John,
00:34:58.83\00:35:00.46
what makes me melt is
when she dresses up really
00:35:00.47\00:35:03.01
pretty and she looks great.
00:35:03.02\00:35:04.76
And I'm in love with
her more than by the way
00:35:04.77\00:35:07.55
that she is
pretty, but she does things
00:35:07.56\00:35:09.93
in a way that appeals
to me that wow she really,
00:35:09.94\00:35:13.05
she is dressing up so
she can attract me that's
00:35:13.06\00:35:15.81
something I'm
visual, you know we are
00:35:15.82\00:35:17.64
visual beings. And
so we just operate on
00:35:17.65\00:35:20.18
different levels,
and we have to recognize
00:35:20.19\00:35:22.20
that in our
marriage because then they
00:35:22.21\00:35:24.66
will know, they will
sense that we do care about
00:35:24.67\00:35:27.87
them and love
them. You know people get
00:35:27.88\00:35:30.11
married a lot of
times and they forget what
00:35:30.12\00:35:32.71
really got that spark going.
00:35:32.72\00:35:34.97
And I always say it this way,
00:35:35.51\00:35:36.95
some people when they
first meet they are face
00:35:36.96\00:35:39.02
to face when they,
when they start living,
00:35:39.03\00:35:41.17
when they get married
they are back to back,
00:35:41.18\00:35:43.63
they look in
different directions.
00:35:43.64\00:35:44.92
Remember face to
face is the most important
00:35:45.74\00:35:47.73
thing, when a person
make eye contact with you
00:35:47.74\00:35:50.11
and you, it's
impossible to smile,
00:35:50.12\00:35:53.52
I always did
this exercise when I'm
00:35:53.53\00:35:54.99
doing seminars.
I always say smile
00:35:55.00\00:35:57.19
as much as you can say
to somebody I really hate
00:35:57.20\00:36:00.03
you, I really do, I
mean you wouldn't take
00:36:00.04\00:36:02.52
them seriously, yeah,
this really doesn't work
00:36:02.53\00:36:04.71
or you frown and
say I really love you.
00:36:04.72\00:36:08.75
Try to just make
it as more bitterness,
00:36:08.76\00:36:11.90
unpleasant as
possible, lets say I love you,
00:36:11.91\00:36:14.49
I don't believe a word of that.
00:36:14.50\00:36:15.78
You see, but
connect them together,
00:36:15.79\00:36:18.56
and a lot of times
people forget that it is when
00:36:18.57\00:36:21.59
the thoughts are not guarded,
00:36:21.60\00:36:23.67
that the relationship
starts being chiseled
00:36:23.68\00:36:26.25
apart, did you get that?
00:36:26.26\00:36:27.48
It's not just the nice
things, the flowers and
00:36:27.49\00:36:29.80
spending time
together, but when the thoughts
00:36:29.81\00:36:32.45
are not guarded and
when the thoughts are not
00:36:32.46\00:36:35.17
invested on each
other, then the chiseling or
00:36:35.18\00:36:38.36
the erosion in the
relationship begin.
00:36:38.37\00:36:40.56
And trust breaks down,
yeah, and you know what
00:36:40.57\00:36:42.73
it's not always
thoughts on other,
00:36:42.74\00:36:44.55
another man or another woman,
00:36:44.56\00:36:46.11
but sometimes
people become workaholics,
00:36:46.12\00:36:48.94
or very career minded
or some others put all
00:36:48.95\00:36:53.36
their attention
on their children.
00:36:53.37\00:36:54.94
And the father feels
like one of the children and
00:36:54.95\00:36:57.60
then father is told to
call his wife mom in the
00:36:57.61\00:37:01.52
presence of the kids,
so he calls her mamma.
00:37:01.53\00:37:04.43
I've heard this is ridiculous;
00:37:04.44\00:37:06.68
parents have done that
to try to condition their
00:37:06.69\00:37:09.44
children to call
the mother mamma.
00:37:09.45\00:37:11.11
And then mothers
you hear them say,
00:37:11.12\00:37:13.30
the dad say well call me papa.
00:37:13.31\00:37:15.06
So, you know she say
papa and she's calling her
00:37:15.07\00:37:18.28
husband papa,
and I've heard older
00:37:18.29\00:37:20.22
people doing this,
and I said how long
00:37:20.23\00:37:22.19
you guys are married? 61 years,
00:37:22.20\00:37:24.07
why are you still
calling your husband papa,
00:37:24.08\00:37:26.45
when the kids have
grown up and moved away?
00:37:26.46\00:37:28.31
Yeah, they did that
when they were children and
00:37:28.32\00:37:30.11
what it does? It
tends to chisel away
00:37:30.12\00:37:33.16
at the intimacy,
yeah, that God intends
00:37:33.17\00:37:36.30
for wife and husband to have,
00:37:36.31\00:37:37.52
one principle I'll
show you the scripture here.
00:37:37.53\00:37:39.54
Love your children, be
in love with your mate,
00:37:40.31\00:37:43.95
don't be in love
with your children?
00:37:43.96\00:37:45.86
Right, some
people are in love with
00:37:45.87\00:37:47.85
their children.
Love your children,
00:37:47.86\00:37:50.39
but be in love with
your mate, your husband,
00:37:50.40\00:37:52.95
or your wife, or your husband,
00:37:52.96\00:37:54.38
your mate is first.
Right, your mate is first,
00:37:54.39\00:37:56.25
you know the
children came along,
00:37:56.26\00:37:59.08
you have to mold
them and shape them,
00:37:59.09\00:38:00.19
and don't, another
point is don't seek to be your
00:38:00.20\00:38:03.58
children's best
friend, but be the best friend
00:38:03.59\00:38:06.95
of your husband or wife, right.
00:38:06.96\00:38:08.59
You have to be the
parent of the children,
00:38:08.60\00:38:10.22
they may not like
what you, how you parent?
00:38:10.23\00:38:12.19
But here's a few
text to guard your heart,
00:38:12.20\00:38:15.63
to guard your
thoughts. I like that,
00:38:15.64\00:38:18.88
don't let your senses trap you,
00:38:18.89\00:38:21.65
because it could
happen, alright here's one.
00:38:21.66\00:38:24.72
Proverbs 23 verse 7:
For as he thinketh in
00:38:24.73\00:38:29.24
his heart, so is he.
Right, and I must say,
00:38:29.25\00:38:32.91
the more you think
about the more you become
00:38:32.92\00:38:33.98
what you are thinking about.
00:38:33.99\00:38:34.98
That's right, yeah, you
know I one of the little
00:38:34.99\00:38:37.56
things, let's do
some practical, okay.
00:38:37.57\00:38:39.59
We've done counseling
before, we've experience
00:38:39.60\00:38:42.05
the stuff and you
many more years than I have
00:38:42.06\00:38:44.11
but think about this
let's say that you're tired
00:38:44.12\00:38:50.22
of your wife
telling you what to do.
00:38:50.23\00:38:51.97
And you start getting
this attitude she's really
00:38:53.58\00:38:56.39
controlling, she is
just a controlling person,
00:38:56.40\00:38:59.77
the more I think about
her being a controlling
00:39:00.87\00:39:03.09
person I start to look
that everything she does
00:39:03.10\00:39:05.54
how controlling it
is. Right, all of a sudden
00:39:05.55\00:39:07.76
you put, and another
thing for her just telling
00:39:07.77\00:39:09.55
me to pick up my
underwear off the floor.
00:39:09.56\00:39:11.55
By the way I don't
usually have to be told
00:39:12.60\00:39:14.28
to do that, but
little things like this,
00:39:14.29\00:39:16.98
you know put your books away,
00:39:16.99\00:39:19.39
you know clean up the
office is really kind,
00:39:19.40\00:39:22.52
your side of the
office is really,
00:39:22.53\00:39:23.64
I'm just giving you
some examples, for example,
00:39:23.65\00:39:25.64
the more I hear maybe
some of those suggestions
00:39:25.65\00:39:28.15
from my wife, rather
than thinking them as okay
00:39:28.16\00:39:30.81
honey I love too, you
know sorry about that.
00:39:30.82\00:39:32.45
And having a loving
interaction I think she
00:39:32.46\00:39:35.43
is really
controlling, and I start to
00:39:35.44\00:39:37.37
dwell on that, and
then I start disliking her
00:39:37.38\00:39:40.43
for being so
controlling, or fighting back,
00:39:40.44\00:39:42.43
and we're fighting back
and I become controlling.
00:39:42.44\00:39:44.75
And these things stream roll,
00:39:44.76\00:39:46.82
they start innocently
or maybe not so innocently,
00:39:46.83\00:39:49.67
but they start intentionally or
00:39:49.68\00:39:51.63
and then they
become intentional, yeah,
00:39:51.64\00:39:54.10
like a war, and
destroys relationship,
00:39:54.11\00:39:56.23
little things like
that, right, and it's amazing
00:39:56.24\00:39:58.67
what can happen.
Let's talk about and
00:39:58.68\00:40:00.52
sometimes the reason
why it's important to guard
00:40:00.53\00:40:02.77
your thoughts
that scripture says:
00:40:02.78\00:40:04.29
For as he thinks in
his heart, so is he.
00:40:04.30\00:40:06.16
Make sure that you
know what your spouse said
00:40:07.06\00:40:10.48
because sometimes
especially in a heated
00:40:10.49\00:40:13.05
moment, and I teach
couples about active
00:40:13.06\00:40:15.94
listening, and how to
ask for what you want,
00:40:15.95\00:40:19.70
and know that
you're going to get it,
00:40:19.71\00:40:20.83
as compared to
passive listening.
00:40:20.84\00:40:23.10
Some of us are
passive in our listening;
00:40:23.11\00:40:25.34
we would listen long
enough for that person to
00:40:25.35\00:40:27.87
stop what he or she says,
00:40:27.88\00:40:29.36
so that we could respond.
00:40:29.37\00:40:30.65
You know we're
waiting, we think about the
00:40:31.48\00:40:32.53
next thing we wanna
say. You know, we wanna,
00:40:32.54\00:40:34.51
we wanna come back
just like tit for tat,
00:40:34.52\00:40:37.44
instead of listening
and say am I hearing you
00:40:37.45\00:40:41.95
say you know a lot
of times we do that to
00:40:41.96\00:40:44.56
strangers. I once said
to a person if he was to
00:40:44.57\00:40:47.47
treat each other like
you treat strangers then
00:40:47.48\00:40:49.39
you would have a
great relationship,
00:40:49.40\00:40:50.64
because we always put
our best foot forward when
00:40:50.65\00:40:52.60
we meet strangers.
But here's the key don't
00:40:52.61\00:40:55.72
read into something
more than as being said that
00:40:55.73\00:40:59.78
is a real big part
of the chiseling away of
00:40:59.79\00:41:02.79
relationships, because
somebody may say whatever
00:41:02.80\00:41:07.51
they say, and
the person would say,
00:41:07.52\00:41:09.47
are you calling me
fat? Yeah, yeah, no,
00:41:09.48\00:41:14.47
I'm just saying I
don't like the way that
00:41:14.48\00:41:16.48
dress fits you.
And I may not have
00:41:16.49\00:41:17.89
used the exact
perfect words, right,
00:41:17.90\00:41:19.95
you don't want to read
into the motives I think
00:41:19.96\00:41:21.73
is what we're
saying. I know one,
00:41:21.74\00:41:23.21
Rochelle has
done this a seminar,
00:41:23.22\00:41:25.66
she recently did it on
thinking things through
00:41:25.67\00:41:28.80
clearly. And
she uses the text in
00:41:28.81\00:41:31.43
Philippians 4
verse 8 where it says:
00:41:31.44\00:41:34.85
Finally, my brethren,
whatever things are true,
00:41:34.86\00:41:36.96
and it goes on to say
some other things think on
00:41:36.97\00:41:39.61
these things, she
spends just time on true.
00:41:39.62\00:41:42.04
And in other words
if someone is saying
00:41:42.93\00:41:45.32
something I don't
wanna think something that's
00:41:45.33\00:41:46.86
not true. So,
sometimes I need to ask
00:41:46.87\00:41:49.19
clarification what
you're saying before I assume
00:41:49.20\00:41:51.64
something, because
after when I assume something
00:41:51.65\00:41:53.43
I'm assuming something
that's not true, right.
00:41:53.44\00:41:55.75
And that's what
you're saying you know,
00:41:55.76\00:41:57.52
you are saying I'm
fat, I didn't say that I may
00:41:57.53\00:42:00.15
have pick the
better words but I'm not
00:42:00.16\00:42:01.32
saying that. They are
thinking something that's
00:42:01.33\00:42:03.14
not true that you have
said something that you
00:42:03.15\00:42:06.09
didn't say. I call it
the avalanche, very true.
00:42:06.10\00:42:10.16
When you think
something that's not true it
00:42:10.17\00:42:12.72
avalanches, we
use a phrase snowball,
00:42:12.73\00:42:15.02
but I like the word
avalanche better because
00:42:15.03\00:42:16.52
the snowball sometimes
has to pick up momentum,
00:42:16.53\00:42:18.80
but in some cases it's true.
00:42:18.81\00:42:20.08
Avalanche, you
just self destruct.
00:42:20.09\00:42:22.42
Oh! You don't love me anymore,
00:42:22.43\00:42:24.73
and you know we
have people that come for
00:42:24.74\00:42:26.33
counseling and I
think what was the problem,
00:42:26.34\00:42:28.07
what he said to
me, what did he say?
00:42:28.68\00:42:30.91
And then the guy and
sometimes let me just put
00:42:30.92\00:42:34.23
it in context,
sometimes it's other way
00:42:34.24\00:42:35.95
around what the
wife said to her husband,
00:42:35.96\00:42:37.95
not just also what,
always with the husband
00:42:37.96\00:42:40.36
not just also
what, always with the
00:42:40.37\00:42:41.34
husband says to the wife.
00:42:41.35\00:42:42.32
So, the key
point here is whatever,
00:42:42.33\00:42:43.30
whatever is being said
by your spouse make sure
00:42:43.31\00:42:45.20
that you hear and
understand what is
00:42:45.21\00:42:47.47
being said clarify
and address the issue,
00:42:47.48\00:42:50.67
and when you have a
problem don't ever say.
00:42:50.68\00:42:53.59
If somebody says
and this is the trap,
00:42:53.60\00:42:55.48
what's the problem?
I mean that right away
00:42:55.49\00:42:57.91
says you are the
problem. You know,
00:42:57.92\00:42:59.88
what happens if you
go to a dentist John and
00:42:59.89\00:43:01.87
he says you are the toothache,
00:43:01.88\00:43:03.67
well how do you get
rid of the toothache?
00:43:03.68\00:43:04.84
You get rid off you,
instead of saying you
00:43:04.85\00:43:07.58
have a toothache,
I always say whenever
00:43:07.59\00:43:10.09
there is a challenge
in a marriage say we,
00:43:10.10\00:43:12.84
we have a problem, we
need to find a solution,
00:43:12.85\00:43:16.83
we are in debt,
we have lost our way,
00:43:16.84\00:43:20.61
we need to build a
stronger relationship,
00:43:20.62\00:43:23.04
its a we. You know
and there is other,
00:43:23.05\00:43:25.06
there are two sides to this too,
00:43:25.07\00:43:26.41
and there is
different ways we can say,
00:43:26.42\00:43:28.06
so we say it a
lot of different ways,
00:43:28.07\00:43:29.83
and hope that maybe
it clicks with some.
00:43:29.84\00:43:31.84
But one other way
of saying this is,
00:43:32.36\00:43:33.94
we've got to be
careful that we're not saying
00:43:33.95\00:43:36.09
things that are
offensive, that are offending
00:43:36.10\00:43:38.10
our spouse. Oh! Yeah,
but we also need to make
00:43:38.11\00:43:41.00
sure that we're
not deliberately being
00:43:41.01\00:43:43.55
offended. You can go
around offending somebody
00:43:43.56\00:43:47.94
but that you can go
also around that someone
00:43:47.95\00:43:50.10
who is constantly offended.
00:43:50.11\00:43:51.67
Offense can do that,
and so I don't want to go
00:43:51.68\00:43:54.89
around looking to be
you know who's gonna offend
00:43:54.90\00:43:56.83
me next, and look for
the things that offend you,
00:43:56.84\00:44:00.00
because that
just makes it worse.
00:44:00.01\00:44:01.47
And that works in
relationship even outside
00:44:01.48\00:44:03.10
of marriage, and I
think you are making that
00:44:03.11\00:44:04.69
implementation
there. Yeah, absolutely,
00:44:04.70\00:44:06.29
you know the other
thing to you say it guard
00:44:06.30\00:44:08.03
your thoughts, the
other way of doing that
00:44:08.04\00:44:10.28
is think about what
you're thinking about,
00:44:10.29\00:44:11.70
that's right. Somebody
said think about what you
00:44:11.71\00:44:14.33
are thinking about,
in another words just
00:44:14.34\00:44:15.82
I can't tell you there
is some that just you've
00:44:15.83\00:44:20.10
talked to them individually,
00:44:20.11\00:44:21.57
try to counsel
them. And they just,
00:44:21.58\00:44:24.00
they are talking,
talking, talking, talking,
00:44:24.01\00:44:25.29
talking, and I went
to visit this one girl
00:44:25.30\00:44:28.08
speaking of, you know someone,
00:44:28.09\00:44:29.89
it's not a marriage issue,
00:44:29.90\00:44:30.87
but I went to visit
her, because she had gone
00:44:30.88\00:44:33.44
through Bible
studies and really you know
00:44:33.45\00:44:35.93
honestly 6, 7 different
Bible studies on the same
00:44:35.94\00:44:40.35
kind of stuff.
And I was wondering
00:44:40.36\00:44:42.07
if she's to make a
decision for the Lord,
00:44:42.08\00:44:43.64
so I went to visit her
with the person who was
00:44:44.44\00:44:46.04
doing Bible studies,
and I sat down at the table.
00:44:46.05\00:44:48.53
And I, there from the
moment I went in that door
00:44:49.15\00:44:51.71
she did not stop
talking for about 20 minutes,
00:44:51.72\00:44:55.46
and the next
subject. And I try to jump in
00:44:57.42\00:44:59.11
a couple of time,
she just kept talking,
00:44:59.12\00:45:00.56
was the buzz saw,
and I'm thinking I'm
00:45:00.57\00:45:02.73
starting to conclude
she doesn't want to hear,
00:45:05.17\00:45:06.14
she wants to just talk.
And so sometimes we have
00:45:06.15\00:45:09.20
to think about how
others might perceive us,
00:45:09.21\00:45:12.50
what are we really
saying, are we constantly
00:45:12.51\00:45:15.20
talking, are we
constantly saying things that
00:45:15.21\00:45:17.64
offend others, or are
we constantly defending
00:45:17.65\00:45:20.12
ourselves, are we
constantly talking?
00:45:20.13\00:45:22.06
Let's start thinking
about what we're thinking
00:45:22.07\00:45:23.92
about and not
allow those offenses,
00:45:23.93\00:45:26.95
those damaging things
that we can say in our
00:45:26.96\00:45:30.29
relationships occur.
Some people are socially
00:45:30.30\00:45:33.30
starved and so the
reason why they take seven
00:45:33.31\00:45:35.94
series of the same
lessons because it guarantees
00:45:35.95\00:45:40.80
somebody is gonna be
in their space that they
00:45:40.81\00:45:42.68
can talk to, which they use it
00:45:42.69\00:45:44.52
as a method to communicate,
00:45:44.53\00:45:45.94
but they have so much to say.
00:45:45.95\00:45:47.40
I know people that
sometimes come from
00:45:47.41\00:45:49.14
really, really quiet
homes, when they get out
00:45:49.15\00:45:51.98
in public they
are very vocal and,
00:45:51.99\00:45:53.79
you know just
out there outlandish,
00:45:53.80\00:45:56.48
because they very,
they are in a quiet
00:45:56.49\00:45:58.92
guarded atmosphere sometimes,
00:45:58.93\00:46:00.26
so you don't get
chance to talk very,
00:46:00.27\00:46:01.71
very much. But
here's another one guarding
00:46:01.72\00:46:04.85
your thoughts, another
one Exodus 20 verse 17,
00:46:04.86\00:46:07.89
this is the context of
the marriage and by the
00:46:07.90\00:46:09.38
way John this one
applies broader than just what
00:46:09.39\00:46:11.80
it says: "Thou shall
not covet thy neighbor's
00:46:11.81\00:46:14.66
wife," covet, the word covet.
00:46:14.67\00:46:17.98
Because there are
some women that covet thy
00:46:17.99\00:46:20.37
neighbor's husband and
there are some men that
00:46:20.38\00:46:23.56
covet thy neighbor's
wife which means who is your
00:46:23.57\00:46:27.02
neighbor anybody that's not you.
00:46:27.03\00:46:28.63
Okay, yeah, so be
content, be content and work
00:46:28.64\00:46:34.37
on your own garden you see.
00:46:34.38\00:46:37.07
So, that whole thing
about coveting what is,
00:46:37.87\00:46:40.31
what is not yours, and
by the way you can't covet
00:46:40.32\00:46:43.70
what already is yours,
and you can't get outside
00:46:43.71\00:46:47.73
of a relationship
where God ordained to be only
00:46:47.74\00:46:50.02
in a relationship. So,
coveting is another part
00:46:50.03\00:46:53.43
one. You know, you
almost wonder if coveting the
00:46:53.44\00:46:56.86
things you already
have might be a good thing
00:46:56.87\00:46:58.82
because it brings contentment.
00:46:58.83\00:47:01.77
I think sometimes maybe
a man if he's not pleased
00:47:01.78\00:47:07.64
with his wife, he fails
to realize how desirable
00:47:07.65\00:47:12.77
she could be to many other men.
00:47:12.78\00:47:14.60
And yet she is
not desirable to him,
00:47:15.78\00:47:17.50
that's right, so
you know you have these
00:47:17.51\00:47:19.87
situations were he
doesn't covet her anymore,
00:47:19.88\00:47:21.82
although she is his
wife. He doesn't admire her.
00:47:21.83\00:47:24.76
He doesn't admire her anymore,
00:47:24.77\00:47:26.10
but he doesn't even want her,
00:47:26.11\00:47:27.55
that's why we
use the word covet,
00:47:27.56\00:47:28.53
I mean covet is a bad
word, but I'm just saying
00:47:28.54\00:47:30.02
that if we would be
more content or covet the
00:47:30.03\00:47:33.35
very things that we
have and be content with
00:47:33.36\00:47:35.33
that, or jealous of
your their own wife,
00:47:35.34\00:47:36.31
jealous of their own wife,
00:47:36.32\00:47:37.31
and not in the bad
way but just wanting her
00:47:37.32\00:47:39.55
with him, just for me, that she,
00:47:39.56\00:47:42.57
he wouldn't be so
willing to just discard her.
00:47:42.58\00:47:45.71
There are so many
other men that would love to
00:47:46.64\00:47:48.25
have a
relationship with my wife,
00:47:48.26\00:47:50.37
I'm privileged to have
the relationship with my
00:47:50.85\00:47:53.44
wife. That's a
very good analogy,
00:47:53.45\00:47:55.11
I said that to my
wife one Sabbath morning,
00:47:55.12\00:47:59.24
and this has happened
on number of occasions,
00:47:59.25\00:48:00.55
sometimes I stand
back and I teach husbands,
00:48:00.56\00:48:02.49
sometime stand back
and look at your wife.
00:48:02.50\00:48:05.58
And look at her the
way you looked at her years
00:48:06.32\00:48:09.20
ago when you first
admire her and just really
00:48:09.21\00:48:11.70
and one day Angie said to me,
00:48:11.71\00:48:13.72
why you're
looking at me that way?
00:48:15.08\00:48:16.09
I said honey I'm
admiring you, because if I don't
00:48:16.68\00:48:22.09
somebody else will
and I don't want to even
00:48:22.10\00:48:24.30
think of that
thought, that's right,
00:48:24.31\00:48:25.67
I'm admiring you.
And she said but you
00:48:25.68\00:48:27.68
are making me uncomfortable,
00:48:27.69\00:48:28.94
I said well I have
the license to make you
00:48:28.95\00:48:30.90
uncomfortable,
that's right, you see,
00:48:30.91\00:48:32.56
so because there are
other men when you feel to
00:48:32.57\00:48:34.84
realize the great
gift that God has placed in
00:48:34.85\00:48:36.64
your hand, people
start coveting when you
00:48:36.65\00:48:41.18
neglect. And you
know what the natural,
00:48:41.19\00:48:43.34
the natural human being
let's use this broad and
00:48:43.35\00:48:47.36
I'm using this and
everybody wants to be
00:48:47.37\00:48:48.94
appreciated, this
is broader than just a
00:48:48.95\00:48:51.33
marriage relationship.
When people don't feel
00:48:51.34\00:48:53.26
that they are being appreciated,
00:48:53.27\00:48:54.73
they're gonna seek
someway of getting that
00:48:54.74\00:48:57.72
appreciation, that's
right. Even the child who
00:48:57.73\00:49:01.00
starts behaving badly
in school because it gets
00:49:01.01\00:49:03.23
them attention at
home, because it's the only
00:49:03.24\00:49:05.57
time the mom and dad
sits down and takes them out
00:49:05.58\00:49:07.70
to dinner and talks to them.
00:49:07.71\00:49:09.07
You see, so the
relationship you are
00:49:09.08\00:49:10.69
talking about here are
broader than just you know
00:49:10.70\00:49:12.82
marriage with husband and wife.
00:49:12.83\00:49:14.08
I like Proverbs 4:23, okay.
00:49:14.09\00:49:16.33
Keep thy heart
with all diligence,
00:49:18.10\00:49:19.98
for out of it are
the issues of life.
00:49:19.99\00:49:21.59
Oh! You know what that means?
00:49:21.60\00:49:23.12
You know so, you know you got
00:49:23.13\00:49:24.84
to keep your heart
and your affections toward
00:49:24.85\00:49:27.01
your wife, because if
you start to look elsewhere
00:49:27.02\00:49:29.92
then you start to be
drawing elsewhere where
00:49:29.93\00:49:32.35
you are gonna go,
eventually you are gonna
00:49:32.36\00:49:34.52
choose the elsewhere.
Yesterday I saw something
00:49:34.53\00:49:36.97
that really
illustrates this text very well,
00:49:36.98\00:49:39.10
I saw a husband and
wife they were at the
00:49:39.11\00:49:40.58
Wal-Mart and keep the
heart with all diligence,
00:49:40.59\00:49:46.72
for out of it are
the issues of life.
00:49:46.73\00:49:48.56
And I would use
this illustration,
00:49:49.28\00:49:50.32
sometimes people say,
well sticks and stones
00:49:50.33\00:49:53.07
may break my bones,
but words will never
00:49:53.08\00:49:55.30
harm me. I had a
little tongue tie there;
00:49:55.31\00:49:56.98
you know words do harm people.
00:49:56.99\00:49:59.05
People say that
words will never harm me,
00:49:59.06\00:50:01.08
this guy had on the t-shirt,
00:50:01.09\00:50:02.64
he's outside
talking, here to children,
00:50:02.65\00:50:05.25
his wife was with
him, he had on the T-shirt
00:50:05.26\00:50:07.71
with an arrow
pointing towards her and it
00:50:07.72\00:50:10.71
probably it says I'm with idiot.
00:50:10.72\00:50:13.07
Oh! No, and I said to my wife,
00:50:13.08\00:50:16.66
can you imagine that
guy wearing that shirt and
00:50:16.67\00:50:20.15
his wife would actually
go to the store with him.
00:50:20.16\00:50:22.88
She's probably weaving
to just try and mask the
00:50:22.89\00:50:25.59
hurt, chuckle
at it or something,
00:50:25.60\00:50:27.33
but it's hurtful.
Everywhere he walks
00:50:27.34\00:50:30.47
with her, the
arrow is pointing to her,
00:50:30.48\00:50:33.10
I'm with idiot and
that's out of the issue and
00:50:33.11\00:50:38.00
the joke. That's not a joke,
00:50:38.01\00:50:40.49
but that's an issue
of life, he essence,
00:50:40.50\00:50:43.89
he in essence something
motivated him to buy that
00:50:43.90\00:50:47.05
shirt,
something motivated him to
00:50:47.06\00:50:48.75
wear that shirt. And he wants to
00:50:48.76\00:50:50.33
make it so clear to
everybody outside of his
00:50:50.34\00:50:52.44
home that he thinks of
his spouse as an idiot,
00:50:52.45\00:50:56.08
and she bears
that, instead of saying I
00:50:56.09\00:50:58.70
refuse to go anywhere
with you with that shirt,
00:50:58.71\00:51:01.26
stand your ground
because for what maybe a joke
00:51:01.27\00:51:05.55
between the two of you
will be perceived as your
00:51:05.56\00:51:08.43
husband or your
wife just really,
00:51:08.44\00:51:10.15
really degrading you
and then what happens is,
00:51:10.16\00:51:13.82
when that day comes to
an end is like so where,
00:51:13.83\00:51:17.83
whatever happened
to your idiot? Who?
00:51:17.84\00:51:20.10
Your wife, you
keep wearing that shirt
00:51:20.11\00:51:22.53
pointing to her, those
are the kind of tags that
00:51:22.54\00:51:24.79
we don't need to
have on each other, no.
00:51:24.80\00:51:26.75
But, now let's talk
about this part John what
00:51:26.76\00:51:29.85
happens when you're
angry, how long should you
00:51:29.86\00:51:31.55
hold on to your
anger, that's a good one?
00:51:31.56\00:51:35.08
Yeah, enough to, I say
long enough to make sure
00:51:35.90\00:51:38.83
that you have
established your rights.
00:51:38.84\00:51:40.92
Okay, obviously you
didn't mean, I'm kidding,
00:51:43.50\00:51:45.67
obviously he didn't
get that from the Bible,
00:51:45.68\00:51:48.72
but that was a pun, you know,
00:51:48.73\00:51:50.68
I know I say that
because that's what people
00:51:50.69\00:51:52.86
are thinking, right,
yeah, you know I mean
00:51:52.87\00:51:56.00
how dare they?
Yeah, I've a friend of
00:51:56.01\00:51:59.94
mine who knows how
to hold the grudge,
00:51:59.95\00:52:02.80
he did real well? Oh! Yeah,
00:52:02.81\00:52:05.29
and he will not talk
to you for X amount of
00:52:05.30\00:52:08.88
time and all the
sudden he will be okay, yeah.
00:52:08.89\00:52:11.02
But he holds on with
his anger, he's upset.
00:52:11.03\00:52:13.87
Is like a clogged
drain, it takes a long time
00:52:13.88\00:52:16.11
to go down, yeah. But
you know think about it,
00:52:16.12\00:52:18.44
when you're living
with your spouse and you're
00:52:18.45\00:52:21.38
doing things like
that you're holding on
00:52:21.39\00:52:22.71
your anger, you're
not talking to him,
00:52:22.72\00:52:24.12
you just shut them
out, how much damage can
00:52:24.13\00:52:26.71
that do in such a
quick period of time?
00:52:26.72\00:52:28.81
The same type of damage
you can do to your sink,
00:52:29.83\00:52:32.85
can you imagine your
sink is clogged and nothing
00:52:32.86\00:52:35.27
can go down, but you
still keep putting more
00:52:35.28\00:52:37.29
dirt, more shavings,
more toothpaste you know
00:52:37.30\00:52:40.97
spitting into the sink
and it just all getting is
00:52:40.98\00:52:43.60
putrefying because you
refuse to get rid of that
00:52:43.61\00:52:46.03
issue that's clogging
up your relationship, yeah.
00:52:46.04\00:52:48.23
And this is what,
this text means I believe
00:52:48.24\00:52:51.16
Ephesians 4 verse 26:
Let not the sun go down
00:52:51.81\00:52:55.84
on your wrath, well
that applies so much I know
00:52:55.85\00:52:58.94
I've had couples that have said.
00:52:58.95\00:53:02.32
And I'm not picking on anyone,
00:53:03.87\00:53:05.43
but this is kind of
more true to women that
00:53:05.44\00:53:07.50
sometimes get
emotional. She hasn't spoken to
00:53:07.51\00:53:09.87
me all week, she
has ignored me all week,
00:53:09.88\00:53:14.15
she got upset with me on Sunday,
00:53:14.16\00:53:15.69
it's Friday night
she hasn't spoken to me
00:53:15.70\00:53:17.31
all week. What about dinner?
00:53:17.32\00:53:19.23
Oh! She gives me
dinner, but she doesn't say a
00:53:19.24\00:53:20.75
single thing, she just
drops it in front of me
00:53:20.76\00:53:22.37
and walks away.
How can you go through
00:53:22.38\00:53:24.69
the day and you know what that,
00:53:24.70\00:53:27.44
that also goes to next
what, you give place to
00:53:27.45\00:53:29.61
the devil, you see and
it chisels away so much.
00:53:29.62\00:53:32.44
And so at the end of
the week what do you say?
00:53:32.45\00:53:34.13
Okay, I'm finally
gonna set you free,
00:53:35.57\00:53:37.46
what have you have done
you punished your spouse
00:53:37.47\00:53:40.86
so much to the point
where that silence has
00:53:40.87\00:53:42.87
become almost a form of
abuse rather than sitting
00:53:42.88\00:53:46.25
down and talking
about it, and admitting the
00:53:46.26\00:53:48.22
place where you
all had the problem.
00:53:48.23\00:53:49.60
And the sun going
down on your wrath,
00:53:49.61\00:53:51.49
it doesn't mean don't
let your wrath in, right.
00:53:51.50\00:53:54.00
It means that don't
let the night come without
00:53:54.01\00:53:56.69
dealing with it face
to face and asking for
00:53:56.70\00:53:59.18
forgiveness or
saying you sorry or at least
00:53:59.19\00:54:01.36
talking through the
issue, because we've all been
00:54:01.37\00:54:04.88
there, I have done it
gone to bed being upset
00:54:04.89\00:54:08.27
and turn out the light
and just fall asleep and
00:54:08.28\00:54:10.98
not deal with it.
And you wake up in
00:54:10.99\00:54:12.31
the morning and what happens,
00:54:12.32\00:54:13.29
you continue right
on, because you went
00:54:13.30\00:54:15.67
to bed upset, you
continue on being upset.
00:54:15.68\00:54:17.65
You've got to deal
with the issue and usually
00:54:18.20\00:54:21.82
that issue is
within ourselves and you
00:54:21.83\00:54:24.87
know one of thing, I
think that comes into
00:54:24.88\00:54:26.19
play here John is
the use of humility.
00:54:26.20\00:54:28.98
I think, if both
parties to a marriage,
00:54:30.09\00:54:34.18
both spouses were more humbled,
00:54:34.19\00:54:36.36
I think they would,
they have so much more an
00:54:37.08\00:54:41.18
easier time at least
dealing with issues and
00:54:41.19\00:54:43.60
stuff, because it
says a lot to go up to your
00:54:43.61\00:54:46.71
spouse and say I
was wrong, right,
00:54:46.72\00:54:49.40
I'm sorry you didn't
may not have appreciate the
00:54:49.41\00:54:54.39
way I interpreted
something you did or
00:54:54.40\00:54:55.99
said but I have no, no
reason to act like that.
00:54:56.00\00:54:59.74
And I was wrong. I
was, I said things hurtful,
00:54:59.75\00:55:01.89
and you know,
that takes humility.
00:55:01.90\00:55:03.42
Oh it sure does.
But it takes strength
00:55:03.43\00:55:05.47
and its strength of
the Lord that makes you
00:55:05.48\00:55:07.25
humble. And try also,
when you have contention
00:55:07.26\00:55:12.66
do the thing, the
humble thing, pray.
00:55:12.67\00:55:17.31
First you may want
to pray if there's a
00:55:18.10\00:55:20.33
contention, say Lord
give me a humble spirit,
00:55:20.34\00:55:22.94
so that I can
approach my wife or my husband
00:55:22.95\00:55:25.44
and say honey, I'm
sorry, let's pray, let's pray.
00:55:25.45\00:55:30.93
Now pray, let's pray together,
00:55:30.94\00:55:33.62
and let's work this thing out.
00:55:33.63\00:55:35.43
Now there are some
people that are just so into
00:55:35.44\00:55:38.93
themselves that they
do everything they can to
00:55:38.94\00:55:40.88
hold on to the anger
as it continues to destroy
00:55:40.89\00:55:43.24
their relationship.
But you know keep Christ at
00:55:43.25\00:55:45.31
the center of your
home, don't go to bed with
00:55:45.32\00:55:47.94
that thought of
anger continuing,
00:55:47.95\00:55:49.68
guard your thoughts
and don't let your senses
00:55:49.69\00:55:51.74
trap you, pray
together. And here's one that I
00:55:51.75\00:55:55.25
think is a cardinal sin
in many relationships is
00:55:55.26\00:55:58.48
people get so angry,
they utter the word divorce.
00:55:58.49\00:56:02.25
My wife and I, 26
years, we have never once
00:56:02.26\00:56:05.11
mentioned the word divorce.
00:56:05.12\00:56:06.97
We haven't
neither. Praise the Lord.
00:56:06.98\00:56:08.52
Because we decided
initially that we would
00:56:08.53\00:56:10.56
never even utter the
word, it's not even an
00:56:10.57\00:56:11.54
option, it's not an
option, not an option.
00:56:11.55\00:56:13.03
But some people say you
know if you don't like it
00:56:13.53\00:56:16.29
leave or hit the
road or I'm done with you,
00:56:16.30\00:56:19.78
I don't love you
anymore, and those are
00:56:19.79\00:56:21.59
hurtful things.
Would you take your
00:56:21.60\00:56:23.37
little poodle who has
just soiled the carpet,
00:56:23.38\00:56:26.96
open the front door
hold it like a football and
00:56:27.82\00:56:29.41
kick it outside.
People wouldn't treat
00:56:29.42\00:56:32.28
their animals that
way, yet we forget the
00:56:32.29\00:56:34.61
greatest gift God has
given to us is our mate.
00:56:34.62\00:56:36.75
And some times we treat
them worse then we would
00:56:36.76\00:56:39.12
to an animal.
Yeah. So we have more
00:56:39.13\00:56:41.55
to cover in upcoming programs.
00:56:41.56\00:56:43.05
Would you, and I
think the point that we're
00:56:43.06\00:56:44.42
making here as we're
wrapping up this segment
00:56:44.43\00:56:46.72
is that is so
important to make sure that the
00:56:46.73\00:56:48.94
Lord is with us and
everything we do in our
00:56:48.95\00:56:51.73
relationship, He
designed marriage,
00:56:51.74\00:56:53.38
He create marriage,
He brought marriage,
00:56:53.39\00:56:54.61
two people
together to make them one,
00:56:54.62\00:56:56.33
and the moment
we start operating,
00:56:56.97\00:56:58.45
you know with a
pompous attitude or being angry
00:56:58.46\00:57:02.35
and not being humble
and everything then we're
00:57:02.36\00:57:05.03
walking out of the
Spirit, we're walking in the
00:57:05.04\00:57:06.94
flesh, and we're
destroying our marriages.
00:57:06.95\00:57:09.05
We've got to get back
with the Lord and let him
00:57:09.06\00:57:11.06
mold and shape us to
the point where the relation
00:57:11.07\00:57:14.71
can begin to function
as God designed it to.
00:57:14.72\00:57:16.80
That's right. You
know friends when the Bible
00:57:16.81\00:57:18.26
says I can do all
things through Christ who
00:57:18.27\00:57:20.27
strengthens me.
It means husband,
00:57:20.28\00:57:23.11
wife, mother, father,
son, daughter, children
00:57:23.12\00:57:26.53
and parents. Let
Christ be the central focus of
00:57:26.54\00:57:29.15
your life and you
will be able to see that,
00:57:29.16\00:57:30.82
it can happen. Begin today,
00:57:30.83\00:57:32.55
have a great
day in Christ. Amen.
00:57:32.56\00:57:34.77