Hello, friends, grab your Bible and a friend 00:00:01.06\00:00:02.73 and sit back as we explore God's word together 00:00:02.76\00:00:05.22 on this edition of "House Calls." 00:00:05.25\00:00:07.37 Welcome to the place 00:00:22.79\00:00:24.06 where it's really happening as a church. 00:00:24.09\00:00:26.48 This is the place you ought to be, 00:00:26.51\00:00:27.86 so hit the record button, 00:00:27.89\00:00:29.19 you don't want to miss this program. 00:00:29.22\00:00:30.96 It's going to be really dead on 00:00:30.99\00:00:33.60 as we trust in the Holy Spirit 00:00:33.63\00:00:35.29 to bring to you what God has laid in our hearts. 00:00:35.32\00:00:38.05 And you know what, I am not alone, 00:00:38.08\00:00:39.38 I got my friend here with me, John. 00:00:39.41\00:00:40.56 Good to have you here, John. 00:00:40.59\00:00:41.62 It's great to be here, John, as usual. 00:00:41.65\00:00:43.61 I tell you, it's always good 00:00:43.64\00:00:44.69 when we're in the saddle together. That's right. 00:00:44.72\00:00:46.98 This way when we get those letters say, 00:00:47.01\00:00:49.06 Dear John, we really don't know who you mean. 00:00:49.09\00:00:51.59 You mean both of us or either of us. 00:00:51.62\00:00:53.50 We really appreciate that. 00:00:53.53\00:00:54.63 Even if they disagree, I can just think that 00:00:54.66\00:00:56.33 they're disagreeing with you. 00:00:56.36\00:00:59.28 Well, thank you for joining us, 00:00:59.31\00:01:00.63 but you know, we always like to begin with prayer 00:01:00.66\00:01:02.34 before we go into anything having to do with the Bible. 00:01:02.37\00:01:04.47 So bow your heads with us. Let's do that. 00:01:04.50\00:01:07.04 Dear Father, again we come before Your throne 00:01:07.07\00:01:09.21 and asking for wisdom and strength 00:01:09.24\00:01:12.24 and that Your Holy Spirit will guide us through Your word. 00:01:12.27\00:01:15.56 The truth is so important 00:01:15.59\00:01:17.21 and we just pray that you help us to know the truth. 00:01:17.24\00:01:20.29 And see how much it will make us free. 00:01:20.32\00:01:23.01 We just thank You for that 00:01:23.04\00:01:24.15 and look forward to You spending this time with us 00:01:24.18\00:01:27.08 and us with those who are watching or listening today, 00:01:27.11\00:01:29.75 in Jesus' name, amen. Amen. 00:01:29.78\00:01:32.61 Well, friends, you know, 00:01:32.64\00:01:33.75 this is greatly a part about this program, 00:01:33.78\00:01:37.48 there's a part about this program 00:01:37.51\00:01:38.80 that really makes a difference. 00:01:38.83\00:01:39.91 And it's your Bible questions, 00:01:39.94\00:01:41.40 that's right, Bible questions that you send to us 00:01:41.43\00:01:44.94 and we really appreciate whatever you send. 00:01:44.97\00:01:47.59 I know some of the questions are deep. 00:01:47.62\00:01:49.38 Some of you have the mind of a theologian, 00:01:49.41\00:01:51.63 thank you for that. 00:01:51.66\00:01:52.69 But try to make those questions concise and filter them down 00:01:52.72\00:01:55.80 because when we get past two pages, 00:01:55.83\00:01:58.02 we kind of wonder what's the question. 00:01:58.05\00:01:59.79 So try to do that in the very beginning. 00:01:59.82\00:02:01.70 And if you do have any questions, 00:02:01.73\00:02:02.83 you want to send to us, 00:02:02.86\00:02:03.93 you can send them to housecalls@3abn.org, 00:02:03.96\00:02:07.31 that's housecalls@3abn.org 00:02:07.34\00:02:10.83 has something to do with being organized, exactly. 00:02:10.86\00:02:13.83 So send those questions there. 00:02:13.86\00:02:15.44 And today we are going to dive into it 00:02:15.47\00:02:17.59 by having John bring us our first question. 00:02:17.62\00:02:20.08 John, this first question comes from Connard. 00:02:20.11\00:02:24.34 And he is asking us question in regard to 2 Peter 2:20-22. 00:02:24.37\00:02:31.89 So let's all turn there. 2 Peter 2:20. 00:02:31.92\00:02:38.34 And here's this question, he says, 00:02:38.37\00:02:41.55 you brought up a topic on how someone would know 00:02:41.58\00:02:44.64 if this were to happen to him in 2 Peter 2:20-22, 00:02:44.67\00:02:50.50 and so basically he is asking us to clarify our comments so. 00:02:50.53\00:02:54.83 How we would know that this was happening to us 00:02:54.86\00:02:58.36 in 2 Peter 2:20. 00:02:58.39\00:03:00.44 So I'm going to read this passage here first 00:03:00.47\00:03:02.71 and then we can talk a little bit about it. 00:03:02.74\00:03:04.42 All right, read it for me. Okay. 00:03:04.45\00:03:07.47 2 Peter 2:20, "For if after they have 00:03:07.50\00:03:14.20 escaped the pollutions of this world 00:03:14.23\00:03:16.66 through the knowledge of the Lord 00:03:16.69\00:03:18.89 and Savior Jesus Christ, 00:03:18.92\00:03:20.81 they are again entangled in them, and overcome, 00:03:20.84\00:03:24.29 the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. 00:03:24.32\00:03:27.69 For it would've been better 00:03:27.72\00:03:28.91 for them not to have known the way of righteousness, 00:03:28.94\00:03:32.03 than having known it, 00:03:32.06\00:03:33.49 to turn from the Holy commandment 00:03:33.52\00:03:35.06 delivered to them. 00:03:35.09\00:03:36.70 But it has happened to them according to the true proverb, 00:03:36.73\00:03:39.73 a dog returns to his own vomit, 00:03:39.76\00:03:42.77 and the sow having washed to her wallowing in the mire." 00:03:42.80\00:03:48.96 Okay, obviously something that 00:03:48.99\00:03:51.40 none of us want to happen to us. 00:03:51.43\00:03:54.12 But let's explore a little bit, 00:03:54.15\00:03:56.31 what Peter is talking about here in this passage. 00:03:56.34\00:04:00.04 Clearly those who have escaped this world, 00:04:00.07\00:04:02.86 the pollutions of this world 00:04:02.89\00:04:04.63 into a knowledge of the Lord 00:04:04.66\00:04:05.89 and Savior Jesus Christ is talking about 00:04:05.92\00:04:07.56 someone who is being converted. Right. 00:04:07.59\00:04:10.13 Who is being converted, 00:04:10.16\00:04:11.62 who has accepted Jesus as their Savior, 00:04:11.65\00:04:14.05 who has read and studied His word, 00:04:14.08\00:04:16.73 which has made them free from the power of sin. 00:04:16.76\00:04:20.72 So clearly there's been a deliverance here 00:04:20.75\00:04:23.11 in this passage from someone who has being converted, 00:04:23.14\00:04:27.57 who has accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior. That's right. 00:04:27.60\00:04:30.56 But this then, it goes on to talk about 00:04:30.59\00:04:32.77 someone who had experienced that, 00:04:32.80\00:04:35.22 but then something else they've also experienced. 00:04:35.25\00:04:37.44 It says that they are again entangled in them 00:04:37.47\00:04:40.54 that is this world of sin and will overcome. 00:04:40.57\00:04:44.47 And of course, then they said the result here is 00:04:44.50\00:04:47.25 that the latter end is worse for them than the beginning, 00:04:47.28\00:04:49.90 which we know, includes the lake of fire 00:04:49.93\00:04:52.66 at the end of time, which no one wants, 00:04:52.69\00:04:54.81 none of us want to experience. 00:04:54.84\00:04:56.01 So good question here, how do we know 00:04:56.04\00:04:58.15 if this is happened to us 00:04:58.18\00:05:00.08 and you know, this is very similar, 00:05:00.11\00:05:02.05 John to another question that we get at times, 00:05:02.08\00:05:05.12 which is how do we know 00:05:05.15\00:05:06.72 if we committed the unpardonable sin. 00:05:06.75\00:05:09.78 And so a very good question, 00:05:09.81\00:05:11.72 my answer and I know your answer is been, 00:05:11.75\00:05:14.06 but if you're really worried or concerned about it happening, 00:05:14.09\00:05:16.35 that you want to be saved, it hasn't happened. Right. 00:05:16.38\00:05:18.45 Because part of committing the unpardonable sin 00:05:18.48\00:05:20.88 is a lack of caring about 00:05:20.91\00:05:22.14 spiritual things anyway in the first place. 00:05:22.17\00:05:24.44 And God can't redeem someone who doesn't care. 00:05:24.47\00:05:26.91 Okay, so this has to deal with the same issue. 00:05:26.94\00:05:30.41 And I agree there's a connection here. 00:05:30.44\00:05:32.25 But notice a couple of key words 00:05:32.28\00:05:33.82 that I want to bring out here before we understand 00:05:33.85\00:05:37.61 what has happened to a person who is entangled 00:05:37.64\00:05:41.21 in the pollutions of the world and overcome? 00:05:41.24\00:05:45.19 First of all, first key word 00:05:45.22\00:05:47.24 I want to bring up here is overcome. 00:05:47.27\00:05:51.95 Clearly the person that has been entangled 00:05:51.98\00:05:54.17 in the pollutions of the world isn't just entangled in there. 00:05:54.20\00:05:58.18 I mean, in other words, they just haven't committed 00:05:58.21\00:06:00.19 some of the old sins that they used to commit. 00:06:00.22\00:06:02.22 They have then overcome. Right. 00:06:02.25\00:06:05.31 Okay, this is the key. 00:06:05.34\00:06:07.30 In other words, they are, 00:06:07.33\00:06:10.85 they are no longer interested 00:06:10.88\00:06:12.43 in being spiritually committed to Christ, 00:06:12.46\00:06:14.63 they've been overcome by the pollutions of the world 00:06:14.66\00:06:18.40 and that means that they are no longer interested 00:06:18.43\00:06:21.51 or no longer susceptible to the power of the Holy Spirit. 00:06:21.54\00:06:25.45 Now if this were to stop with just simply saying, 00:06:25.48\00:06:27.89 they've been entangled by the pollutions of this world, 00:06:27.92\00:06:30.95 I would say, the text would be difficult for us to understand. 00:06:30.98\00:06:33.86 Because God is a forgiving God, 00:06:33.89\00:06:35.53 He doesn't say that when you sin, 00:06:35.56\00:06:36.73 or when you commit some of the old sins 00:06:36.76\00:06:38.24 you used to do that He leaves you alone 00:06:38.27\00:06:40.03 and never accepts you again. 00:06:40.06\00:06:42.03 So God is merciful, but the issue here is, 00:06:42.06\00:06:46.52 what is your desire? 00:06:46.55\00:06:49.08 Is your desire to remain entangled, 00:06:49.11\00:06:50.97 to just go back to that world of sin 00:06:51.00\00:06:52.86 and live in it and ignore the salvation 00:06:52.89\00:06:55.64 that you had once received? 00:06:55.67\00:06:57.42 If that is your desire, 00:06:57.45\00:06:58.86 I would say that it has overcome you again. 00:06:58.89\00:07:01.39 You've been overcome completely by the world, 00:07:01.42\00:07:04.10 and so I say that the word overcome there 00:07:04.13\00:07:06.11 is the keyword to this passage. 00:07:06.14\00:07:08.47 The second one is in verse 21, 00:07:08.50\00:07:12.39 it says, "It would have been better for them 00:07:12.42\00:07:14.17 not to have known the way of righteousness, 00:07:14.20\00:07:16.07 than having known it, 00:07:16.10\00:07:17.54 to turn from the holy commandment 00:07:17.57\00:07:19.66 delivered to them." 00:07:19.69\00:07:21.00 So the person that has been overcome 00:07:21.03\00:07:22.65 has also deliberately turned. Right. 00:07:22.68\00:07:25.96 See the intent here, John. 00:07:25.99\00:07:27.96 They have turned from the holy commandment. 00:07:27.99\00:07:30.60 In another words, they don't want 00:07:30.63\00:07:32.24 what is spiritually benefiting them, 00:07:32.27\00:07:34.36 which is the word of God, 00:07:34.39\00:07:35.52 which is Jesus Christ who would save them. 00:07:35.55\00:07:37.36 They now want the things of the world. That's right. 00:07:37.39\00:07:40.03 They have turned the side from that 00:07:40.06\00:07:42.19 back into a world 00:07:42.22\00:07:43.79 full of unrighteousness and full of sin. 00:07:43.82\00:07:46.26 So there is a deliberate action here. 00:07:46.29\00:07:48.76 And I would say an unpardonable sin of sorts, 00:07:48.79\00:07:51.08 not that God cannot forgive certain sins, 00:07:51.11\00:07:54.30 but that He is unable to forgive them 00:07:54.33\00:07:56.57 because of our desire for sin itself. 00:07:56.60\00:07:59.12 We don't want Him, 00:07:59.15\00:08:00.21 we don't want the Holy Spirits work on our life. 00:08:00.24\00:08:02.29 We'd rather have the world of sins, 00:08:02.32\00:08:03.69 so we've been overcome by. 00:08:03.72\00:08:05.10 We've turned from God 00:08:05.13\00:08:06.39 and we are now living in the world. 00:08:06.42\00:08:07.74 So this is the context of the person who can't be saved. 00:08:07.77\00:08:12.79 Not because God doesn't want to save them, 00:08:12.82\00:08:15.30 it's because they don't want to be saved. 00:08:15.33\00:08:17.09 They turn from the living God. 00:08:17.12\00:08:19.46 And so I would suggest that if, 00:08:19.49\00:08:22.00 you know, if you think, or have any question, 00:08:22.03\00:08:24.22 or any concern, or worry that this is happened to you, 00:08:24.25\00:08:27.44 but you want to be saved, 00:08:27.47\00:08:29.20 this isn't really speaking about your condition 00:08:29.23\00:08:31.35 because it's speaking about a condition 00:08:31.38\00:08:32.86 of someone who has turned away from God 00:08:32.89\00:08:35.15 and deliberately entangle themselves 00:08:35.18\00:08:36.84 with the world again, 00:08:36.87\00:08:38.05 and don't really be want to be part of it. 00:08:38.08\00:08:40.75 You know, you also add to that. 00:08:40.78\00:08:44.15 There is another text here. 00:08:44.18\00:08:45.62 This is talking about a complete shut off. 00:08:45.65\00:08:47.66 Not just, oh, I don't want to be 00:08:47.69\00:08:49.46 bothered right now. That's right. 00:08:49.49\00:08:50.85 This is talking about a complete shut off, 00:08:50.88\00:08:52.48 Lord I've made up my mind, I don't want to go that way. 00:08:52.51\00:08:56.76 Don't bother me. 00:08:56.79\00:08:58.16 And you'll find in the Bible it says, 00:08:58.19\00:09:00.54 it speaks of a man by the name of Demas. 00:09:00.57\00:09:03.80 In the Bible the last commentary we have of Demas, 00:09:03.83\00:09:06.52 who once was an apostle in the New Testament. 00:09:06.55\00:09:08.80 It says, "Demas has forsaken Me, 00:09:08.83\00:09:13.04 having loved this present world." 00:09:13.07\00:09:15.60 You also hear that said of many of those 00:09:15.63\00:09:17.41 who walked with Christ, 00:09:17.44\00:09:18.65 it says, and they walked with Him no more. 00:09:18.68\00:09:21.57 You see, so when you get the last commentary, 00:09:21.60\00:09:24.72 it says there's a shutoff, 00:09:24.75\00:09:26.08 there the valve has bee shut off. 00:09:26.11\00:09:27.69 They don't really care about spiritual things any longer 00:09:27.72\00:09:31.18 and that was the case when it came to Demas, 00:09:31.21\00:09:34.05 whom he also talked about the disciples 00:09:34.08\00:09:35.81 who were once working for Jesus. 00:09:35.84\00:09:38.97 But 2 Timothy, I want you to see 2 Timothy 2:25. 00:09:39.00\00:09:45.54 Want to go ahead and punch that one up here, 00:09:45.57\00:09:47.98 2 Timothy 2:25. 00:09:48.01\00:09:52.85 With modern technology nowadays, notice this text. 00:09:52.88\00:09:56.34 In this text, by the way he's referring to those 00:09:56.37\00:09:58.64 who may find themselves going in that direction 00:09:58.67\00:10:01.06 but haven't ended up there yet. 00:10:01.09\00:10:03.02 There's a still a chance for them to be saved, 00:10:03.05\00:10:05.28 because Lord talks to us about how we should handle people 00:10:05.31\00:10:10.23 that are going in a wrong direction. 00:10:10.26\00:10:12.61 And notice the difference, 00:10:12.64\00:10:14.56 verse 24 let me begin there, 2 Timothy 2:24, 00:10:14.59\00:10:18.84 "And the servant of the Lord 00:10:18.87\00:10:20.95 must not quarrel or must not strive, 00:10:20.98\00:10:23.87 but be gentle to all, able to teach in patient." 00:10:23.90\00:10:29.75 In humility correcting those who are in opposition, 00:10:29.78\00:10:33.68 or as the King James version says, 00:10:33.71\00:10:35.38 'that oppose themselves.' 00:10:35.41\00:10:37.82 You know there are some people that say one thing, do another. 00:10:37.85\00:10:41.42 Like the two sons, one says 00:10:41.45\00:10:42.66 I am not going to go, but he went. 00:10:42.69\00:10:43.87 The other says, I am going but I didn't go. 00:10:43.90\00:10:45.76 That's kind of the same situation. 00:10:45.79\00:10:47.83 "Who are in opposition, 00:10:47.86\00:10:49.62 if God perhaps will grant them repentance 00:10:49.65\00:10:54.09 so that they may know the truth?" 00:10:54.12\00:10:56.84 See, "And that they may come to their senses 00:10:56.87\00:11:01.15 and escape the snare of the devil, 00:11:01.18\00:11:03.60 having been taken captive by Him to do His will." 00:11:03.63\00:11:07.89 So there are some people that are taken captive. 00:11:07.92\00:11:10.10 I mean you can be in the worst situation 00:11:10.13\00:11:11.57 of being taken captive by the devil to do His will. 00:11:11.60\00:11:14.17 But even in this situation Lord says, 00:11:14.20\00:11:16.03 when you find a person like that, 00:11:16.06\00:11:17.94 which is unlike the person 00:11:17.97\00:11:19.14 that's described there in 2 Peter. 00:11:19.17\00:11:22.91 This person has a redemptive value. 00:11:22.94\00:11:24.52 They could be turned around again. 00:11:24.55\00:11:27.12 They could be lead in the right direction. 00:11:27.15\00:11:28.95 And so the question I think 00:11:28.98\00:11:31.25 the person will be asking himself 00:11:31.28\00:11:32.66 in an overall sense is, is it too late for me? 00:11:32.69\00:11:35.49 Well, if you're concerned about 00:11:35.52\00:11:36.55 whether or not it's too late for you, 00:11:36.58\00:11:37.61 it's not too late for you. 00:11:37.64\00:11:38.67 That's right. Okay. 00:11:38.70\00:11:39.73 Now the other question that comes out of this too, 00:11:39.76\00:11:41.11 John, which is one of those things 00:11:41.14\00:11:42.44 that the, the world, 00:11:42.47\00:11:45.30 the Christian world at large teaches is, 00:11:45.33\00:11:47.09 "Can you loose your salvation?" 00:11:47.12\00:11:50.30 And I would have to answer from the text 00:11:50.33\00:11:53.00 that was brought up here in 2 Peter 00:11:53.03\00:11:55.94 and there are several other texts as well, 00:11:55.97\00:11:57.94 that yes you can. 00:11:57.97\00:12:00.88 It's a choice that we all make. 00:12:00.91\00:12:02.93 Remember salvation is a choice to be saved, 00:12:02.96\00:12:05.45 but also we can't choose. 00:12:05.48\00:12:07.64 We don't give up our right to choose, 00:12:07.67\00:12:10.08 at the time we're saved. 00:12:10.11\00:12:11.42 We can choose also to walk away from the Lord. 00:12:11.45\00:12:14.09 And you talked about the commentary 00:12:14.12\00:12:15.76 of Demas and some others. 00:12:15.79\00:12:17.35 The person here that was once saved 00:12:17.38\00:12:20.26 and had experienced the saving grace of Jesus Christ 00:12:20.29\00:12:22.93 who has walked away, 00:12:22.96\00:12:23.99 in a deliberate way turned from the commandment 00:12:24.02\00:12:26.73 that we can walk away from Christ. Right. 00:12:26.76\00:12:29.90 It is possible to do that. 00:12:29.93\00:12:31.67 Now I agree the Bible also says, 00:12:31.70\00:12:34.42 the devil can't snatch us 00:12:34.45\00:12:35.85 or take us away against our choice 00:12:35.88\00:12:39.25 and that's the part the text 00:12:39.28\00:12:40.37 doesn't say there, but it implies. 00:12:40.40\00:12:42.19 The devil can't take us away, 00:12:42.22\00:12:44.12 unless we choose to walk away 00:12:44.15\00:12:46.23 and that's where God doesn't allow us 00:12:46.26\00:12:47.88 to slip up ever away from His hand 00:12:47.91\00:12:49.91 but that doesn't mean that we can't walk away, 00:12:49.94\00:12:52.32 we cannot choose to walk away from Jesus, our Savior. 00:12:52.35\00:12:56.90 So can someone be lost after they're saved? Absolutely. 00:12:56.93\00:13:00.27 I think the Bible is very clear on that 00:13:00.30\00:13:01.60 and very consistent on that. 00:13:01.63\00:13:02.70 You have to really, 00:13:02.73\00:13:03.99 if you accept that once you're saved 00:13:04.02\00:13:05.47 you're always saved, you have to be, 00:13:05.50\00:13:08.39 you have to ignore several texts 00:13:08.42\00:13:12.36 that are glaringly clear that, that is infact, not the case. 00:13:12.39\00:13:18.08 Right, the saving is that's what-- 00:13:18.11\00:13:19.76 it's a saving relationship. 00:13:19.79\00:13:21.86 And we know that that once saved always saved 00:13:21.89\00:13:25.36 concept is forgetting justification, 00:13:25.39\00:13:29.49 sanctification, glorification. It's a process. 00:13:29.52\00:13:33.71 You know that when you got married 00:13:33.74\00:13:34.77 and on the day you got married, 00:13:34.80\00:13:35.83 you are really in love 00:13:35.86\00:13:36.89 but if you've been married for 25 years, 00:13:36.92\00:13:38.82 you really at least you should be in love, 00:13:38.85\00:13:41.74 stronger than you were when you first got married. 00:13:41.77\00:13:44.18 Here's another text I want to point out 00:13:44.21\00:13:45.83 because we talked about those who are unable to comeback, 00:13:45.86\00:13:50.96 those who have just turned away from the holy commandment. 00:13:50.99\00:13:54.06 Here is the situation, this is a caution by the way 00:13:54.09\00:13:57.03 because this is about one of the disciples of Jesus. 00:13:57.06\00:14:01.24 You know his name, his name is Judas. 00:14:01.27\00:14:03.06 He did a couple of things but he did them too late. 00:14:03.09\00:14:05.51 Listen to this. 00:14:05.54\00:14:06.90 This is Mathew 27:3, "Then Judas his betrayer, 00:14:06.93\00:14:12.87 seeing that he had been condemned," 00:14:12.90\00:14:15.92 that is, that Jesus is being condemned to death, 00:14:15.95\00:14:19.18 "was remorseful" he felt remorsed, 00:14:19.21\00:14:23.00 "and brought back the 30 pieces of silver 00:14:23.03\00:14:25.39 to the chief priest and elders." 00:14:25.42\00:14:27.33 He felt remorse. Okay. 00:14:27.36\00:14:30.60 "Saying, I have sinned in by betraying innocent blood. 00:14:30.63\00:14:34.98 And they said, what is that to us? 00:14:35.01\00:14:37.28 You see to it." Then he go, he confess. 00:14:37.31\00:14:40.21 He was remorseful, then he confessed. 00:14:40.24\00:14:42.72 But look at verse 5, 00:14:42.75\00:14:45.25 "Then he threw down the pieces of silver in the temple, 00:14:45.28\00:14:47.97 and departed, and went and hanged himself." 00:14:48.00\00:14:51.46 Okay, you discover here. 00:14:51.49\00:14:53.04 He was remorseful, he confessed, 00:14:53.07\00:14:56.32 but his remorse and confession was too late. 00:14:56.35\00:14:59.37 And so as Jeremiah says, 00:14:59.40\00:15:01.46 we want to make sure that if we are remorseful, 00:15:01.49\00:15:03.46 that we confess while we have time. 00:15:03.49\00:15:05.64 The harvest is ripe. 00:15:05.67\00:15:08.45 The harvest that Jeremiah talks about 00:15:08.48\00:15:10.58 is the harvest that's past. 00:15:10.61\00:15:12.72 So at the time of the harvest, 00:15:12.75\00:15:13.84 when the harvesting is done, you can't be a fruit 00:15:13.87\00:15:17.00 and if you say "What about me?" 00:15:17.03\00:15:18.98 The harvest is done, there are no labors, 00:15:19.01\00:15:20.78 nobody's gathering anything, 00:15:20.81\00:15:22.26 you are left in the field 00:15:22.29\00:15:23.49 to burn with the rest of the refuse. 00:15:23.52\00:15:25.40 So if your heart is feeling condemned, 00:15:25.43\00:15:27.48 the time to repent 00:15:27.51\00:15:28.75 is to repent now while there is still time. 00:15:28.78\00:15:30.29 You know, and I would just say 00:15:30.32\00:15:31.35 Judas was remorseful, as you said. 00:15:31.38\00:15:33.31 And he confessed but he was not repenting. No. 00:15:33.34\00:15:35.81 Because God will never turn away 00:15:35.84\00:15:37.30 from someone who has repentant heart. 00:15:37.33\00:15:40.01 Because repentance includes turning around 00:15:40.04\00:15:41.69 and going the other direction. 00:15:41.72\00:15:43.32 So while he was remorseful, he felt sorrow, he confessed, 00:15:43.35\00:15:48.42 he knew that he'd done wrong, he wasn't willing to change. 00:15:48.45\00:15:52.57 Deep down in his heart there was no repentance there 00:15:52.60\00:15:55.32 and instead he hung himself. 00:15:55.35\00:15:57.13 And so there are many who I believe, 00:15:57.16\00:15:59.28 John who, you know, they do feel sorry for their sins. 00:15:59.31\00:16:05.09 They do confess their sins 00:16:05.12\00:16:07.14 but turning from their current way, 00:16:07.17\00:16:11.37 the direction they are going and following God's way 00:16:11.40\00:16:14.14 according to His word, 00:16:14.17\00:16:15.38 is something that many are unwilling to take the step, 00:16:15.41\00:16:17.78 that final step to do. 00:16:17.81\00:16:19.39 And so I would suggest that many of you, 00:16:19.42\00:16:22.38 if you are feeling sorrow 00:16:22.41\00:16:24.74 and you have confessed your sins, 00:16:24.77\00:16:26.92 read God's word and as you draw closer to Him 00:16:26.95\00:16:28.99 in your relationship with Him. 00:16:29.02\00:16:30.05 You'll see not only is he loving 00:16:30.08\00:16:32.12 but He wants to save you and help you turn. 00:16:32.15\00:16:35.90 Remember repentance, John, is a, or what you call it. 00:16:35.93\00:16:39.82 It's also a gift from God. 00:16:39.85\00:16:42.19 You know we can have sorrow, 00:16:42.22\00:16:43.59 we can if we want to confess but sometimes we need to pray, 00:16:43.62\00:16:46.46 Lord, put the desire within me. That is very good. 00:16:46.49\00:16:49.29 To want to not do this kind of thing anymore, 00:16:49.32\00:16:52.30 to be more repentant, 00:16:52.33\00:16:54.06 and if we ask, we're giving God the will, 00:16:54.09\00:16:56.77 or giving our will to God 00:16:56.80\00:16:58.14 and asking God to make that change within our lives, 00:16:58.17\00:17:00.72 and He can help us turn around. 00:17:00.75\00:17:02.52 He can help us turn the other direction. 00:17:02.55\00:17:04.42 And so these all are steps are part of our salvation. 00:17:04.45\00:17:07.61 You know, John you mentioned that, 00:17:07.64\00:17:09.08 you know salvation isn't just a one step process, 00:17:09.11\00:17:11.07 this isn't just been saved from the penalty of sin, 00:17:11.10\00:17:13.94 which is death. 00:17:13.97\00:17:15.47 It's also our sanctification that we grow in Christ 00:17:15.50\00:17:19.37 and we become, not only are we sanctified, 00:17:19.40\00:17:22.74 or we made Holy, we begin to do Holy things, 00:17:22.77\00:17:26.18 rather than doing sinful things. 00:17:26.21\00:17:28.31 And I notice that there are several references in the Bible 00:17:28.34\00:17:31.13 to those who are being saved, 00:17:31.16\00:17:33.13 or they've been saved, they've been justified 00:17:33.16\00:17:34.76 but they continued to be saved everyday. That's right. 00:17:34.79\00:17:37.42 And remember God wants to save you everyday. 00:17:37.45\00:17:40.59 And through Jesus, He can give you 00:17:40.62\00:17:42.20 the power of salvation from sin everyday, 00:17:42.23\00:17:46.52 but we need to live constantly with the attitude 00:17:46.55\00:17:48.87 and desire within our heart to live a pure and holy life. 00:17:48.90\00:17:52.43 You know I am glad that you mentioned that John 00:17:52.46\00:17:53.75 because there's a passage in the Bible 00:17:53.78\00:17:55.15 that lot of people kind of ignore, 00:17:55.18\00:17:57.00 but it says 1 Corinthians 1:18, 00:17:57.03\00:18:00.46 "For the message of the cross is foolishness 00:18:00.49\00:18:03.14 to those who are perishing." 00:18:03.17\00:18:04.81 Notice they are perishing, they're not-- 00:18:04.84\00:18:06.63 In the process of perishing. Exactly. 00:18:06.66\00:18:09.03 But to us who are being saved, it is a power of God. 00:18:09.06\00:18:12.89 Notice, perishing, process, being saved, process. 00:18:12.92\00:18:17.96 So don't forget those things. 00:18:17.99\00:18:19.25 Lot of times we say, are saved. 00:18:19.28\00:18:21.17 It's like saying, "I am lost." 00:18:21.20\00:18:23.30 You do want people to say, "I am lost." 00:18:23.33\00:18:25.09 I am being lost is probably more accurate. Exactly. 00:18:25.12\00:18:27.47 There's still a chance for them to be saved. 00:18:27.50\00:18:29.86 I am being saved. I am in the process. 00:18:29.89\00:18:31.85 God is perfecting in me more and more His character everyday. 00:18:31.88\00:18:34.90 He began it, and He is an author-- 00:18:34.93\00:18:36.35 He is the author of it and he will complete it. 00:18:36.38\00:18:38.37 He's going to complete it, so don't forget. 00:18:38.40\00:18:40.36 But here's another question we have. 00:18:40.39\00:18:42.63 Thank you Jenny, I won't give the last name, 00:18:42.66\00:18:45.18 it would be a dead giveaway. 00:18:45.21\00:18:46.85 "I believe like you do, 00:18:46.88\00:18:48.13 that the Bible makes itself very clear 00:18:48.16\00:18:50.08 that the wages of sin is death. 00:18:50.11\00:18:52.40 However what do I say 00:18:52.43\00:18:53.95 to those who bring up the story of rich man 00:18:53.98\00:18:57.10 and Lazarus? 00:18:57.13\00:18:58.95 I have heard you said that was just a story 00:18:58.98\00:19:02.07 that was popular in those days 00:19:02.10\00:19:03.87 and that Jesus was just using it to make a point? 00:19:03.90\00:19:06.87 I have two questions about that theory however. 00:19:06.90\00:19:09.57 First one is, why would Jesus use an inaccurate story 00:19:09.60\00:19:12.39 to make a point instead of one of His own parables? 00:19:12.42\00:19:16.62 The second is, why would that be 00:19:16.65\00:19:18.41 a popular story among the Jews 00:19:18.44\00:19:20.88 when they knew that the soul that sins it shall die?" 00:19:20.91\00:19:24.47 That is the point, okay. 00:19:24.50\00:19:26.60 "Or that they just got into corrupted 00:19:26.63\00:19:29.59 by the cultures around them." 00:19:29.62\00:19:31.47 Okay, that's the point. 00:19:31.50\00:19:32.87 Thank you very much for the question, Jenny. 00:19:32.90\00:19:35.66 The rich man and Lazarus is a parable in fact. 00:19:35.69\00:19:39.44 One of the point you actually 00:19:39.47\00:19:40.68 answered the question right in the question. 00:19:40.71\00:19:42.19 Yeah, she did. 00:19:42.22\00:19:43.25 Because the Jews have become so corrupted by that idea. 00:19:43.28\00:19:48.42 One of the things, many of the things 00:19:48.45\00:19:49.94 that were floating around was the idea that, 00:19:49.97\00:19:51.98 first of all if you're child of Abraham, you are set. 00:19:52.01\00:19:55.64 So Jesus said, okay you are child of Abraham. 00:19:55.67\00:19:58.23 Secondly, a theory came to the surface that 00:19:58.26\00:20:00.53 Abraham's bosom was a parabolical way of saying, 00:20:00.56\00:20:03.15 you're safe in heaven. You got it made, you know. 00:20:03.18\00:20:07.08 There's a phrases nowadays, burning in the bosom. 00:20:07.11\00:20:09.86 A confirmation that what I believe is in fact soul. 00:20:09.89\00:20:13.51 So in the case of the Jews of that day, 00:20:13.54\00:20:15.83 they had been affected by something called Neo-Platonism. 00:20:15.86\00:20:18.63 That's the common term for it nowadays. 00:20:18.66\00:20:20.77 Meaning they believed in the immortality of the soul. 00:20:20.80\00:20:23.77 It came from the Greeks. 00:20:23.80\00:20:25.31 It came from the Greeks schools of that day. 00:20:25.34\00:20:27.63 It began to infiltrate the schools of the day 00:20:27.66\00:20:30.18 that also was able to infiltrate the minds of the Pharisees 00:20:30.21\00:20:33.63 and Scribes in the scenes and all those who began to teach 00:20:33.66\00:20:36.58 and those who were a part of the sanctuary services. 00:20:36.61\00:20:40.09 They adopted the mindset, 00:20:40.12\00:20:41.52 so Jesus came to them, in the same way He says, 00:20:41.55\00:20:45.32 "I am, I am the resurrection and the life." 00:20:45.35\00:20:48.37 He did it at a time, when they believed that, 00:20:48.40\00:20:51.27 when literally Lazarus had died, 00:20:51.30\00:20:53.51 they believe that the soul took three days 00:20:53.54\00:20:56.50 to come back into the body 00:20:56.53\00:20:57.86 and if it succeeded after three days, 00:20:57.89\00:20:59.82 then He came back to life. 00:20:59.85\00:21:01.33 That's why Jesus stayed away four days 00:21:01.36\00:21:03.56 for his friend Lazarus. 00:21:03.59\00:21:05.15 And then he said to Mary and Martha, 00:21:05.18\00:21:07.06 "I am the resurrection and the life." 00:21:07.09\00:21:10.00 He had to dispel a lot of beliefs 00:21:10.03\00:21:11.62 that became accepted by the Jews of his day. 00:21:11.65\00:21:14.69 And one of those was the parable. 00:21:14.72\00:21:18.23 And Jesus used a fictitious Lazarus, 00:21:18.26\00:21:20.65 because this was the story given before Lazarus had have died. 00:21:20.68\00:21:24.43 This was not of Lazarus, 00:21:24.46\00:21:25.97 referred to as the brother of Mary and Martha. 00:21:26.00\00:21:29.19 This was a different Lazarus altogether. 00:21:29.22\00:21:31.18 But he used them to compare him 00:21:31.21\00:21:33.32 to the people of the day that had needs. 00:21:33.35\00:21:35.68 And the issue of the story was, 00:21:35.71\00:21:37.95 Lazarus had a need in his life, that the Jews ignored. 00:21:37.98\00:21:42.06 Lazarus wanted food, 00:21:42.09\00:21:43.55 which was the teaching of the Jews, 00:21:43.58\00:21:45.51 that they didn't give it to him. 00:21:45.54\00:21:47.07 Lazarus is a man who had sores 00:21:47.10\00:21:49.59 and the Gentiles were referred to as dogs. 00:21:49.62\00:21:52.08 So Jesus says, you guys say that you are part of kingdom 00:21:52.11\00:21:55.16 but there are people that have needs 00:21:55.19\00:21:56.75 that are not even being taken here by you, 00:21:56.78\00:21:59.13 they're being ignored by you, 00:21:59.16\00:22:00.33 but look at what the Gentiles are doing? 00:22:00.36\00:22:02.18 The dogs came and licked Lazarus' sores. 00:22:02.21\00:22:05.45 So he used the language of the day. 00:22:05.48\00:22:07.50 And to show that it was a language of the day. 00:22:07.53\00:22:08.98 When a Samaritan woman came to Jesus 00:22:09.01\00:22:10.58 and his disciples were there. He said, "It's not good. 00:22:10.61\00:22:14.02 It is not good to take children's food 00:22:14.05\00:22:16.09 and give it to dogs." 00:22:16.12\00:22:18.06 And they knew exactly what He meant. 00:22:18.09\00:22:19.89 He had to break down the prejudices 00:22:19.92\00:22:21.99 by the statements that existed in His day. 00:22:22.02\00:22:24.60 So Jesus used those parables not to buy into that 00:22:24.63\00:22:29.02 but He used the very same teachings 00:22:29.05\00:22:30.55 that they had already accepted to undo it 00:22:30.58\00:22:33.32 and show them that he is the real issue. 00:22:33.35\00:22:35.95 And you notice a number of things 00:22:35.98\00:22:37.65 that were somewhat elusive, not elusively, 00:22:37.68\00:22:40.94 but somewhat alluded to the truths 00:22:40.97\00:22:43.28 of that Jesus referred to. 00:22:43.31\00:22:46.53 One of those was that the rich man said, 00:22:46.56\00:22:50.25 I have five brothers. 00:22:50.28\00:22:52.01 Well, how many books that they've put their trust in. 00:22:52.04\00:22:54.25 The Pentateuch, the first five books of the Bible. 00:22:54.28\00:22:57.20 Go and tell them, and Jesus says, 00:22:57.23\00:22:59.25 even if one rose from the dead, you really wouldn't believe it. 00:22:59.28\00:23:02.37 And what happens when Jesus rose from the dead, 00:23:02.40\00:23:04.47 they didn't believe it. 00:23:04.50\00:23:06.03 So this is not just the parable 00:23:06.06\00:23:07.37 but Jesus interlaced in this parable a number of things. 00:23:07.40\00:23:11.09 One when your life ends, 00:23:11.12\00:23:13.73 there is no way that you can communicate truth 00:23:13.76\00:23:16.85 to those who are already lost. 00:23:16.88\00:23:18.85 In other words, there's a great gulf fixed 00:23:18.88\00:23:20.42 between the saved and the lost, 00:23:20.45\00:23:21.73 that was the truth 00:23:21.76\00:23:22.79 Jesus injected into that particular teaching, 00:23:22.82\00:23:25.18 so inaccurate parable. 00:23:25.21\00:23:27.80 The parable, if you made it literal, very inaccurate. 00:23:27.83\00:23:32.18 But that's the whole purpose of the parable. 00:23:32.21\00:23:34.17 It's supposed to not have a direct message. 00:23:34.20\00:23:36.66 Matter of fact, let me give you 00:23:36.69\00:23:38.66 a couple of the passages that Jesus used 00:23:38.69\00:23:40.59 and the reason why He used parables 00:23:40.62\00:23:42.18 at that time to His people. 00:23:42.21\00:23:44.93 Go with us to Mathew 13:13, and-- 00:23:44.96\00:23:51.40 let's go here. 00:23:51.43\00:23:54.16 Mathew 13-- yeah, here I am. 00:23:54.19\00:23:59.22 I'll start with Mathew 13:13. 00:23:59.25\00:24:01.12 Okay, I'm going up to it now, don't turn away, here is. 00:24:01.15\00:24:04.32 Okay, Mathew 13:13, 00:24:04.35\00:24:06.41 do you have it, John by the way. 00:24:06.44\00:24:07.73 Yeah, therefore. Why don't you read verse 13, 14. 00:24:07.76\00:24:09.49 "Therefore I speak to them in parables, 00:24:09.52\00:24:11.52 because seeing they do not see, 00:24:11.55\00:24:13.08 and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.' 00:24:13.11\00:24:15.91 Okay, notice what he says, and seeing, these people, 00:24:15.94\00:24:19.45 the Jews, didn't just begin to see, 00:24:19.48\00:24:21.89 they've been seeing all their lives 00:24:21.92\00:24:23.24 but just they do not see it. 00:24:23.27\00:24:26.11 They've been hearing for centuries, 00:24:26.14\00:24:28.66 but they just don't understand it. 00:24:28.69\00:24:31.74 And look at verse 14. 00:24:31.77\00:24:32.92 Matter of fact that goes back to the Prophet Isaiah. 00:24:32.95\00:24:36.52 "And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, 00:24:36.55\00:24:39.28 which says, hearing you will hear, 00:24:39.31\00:24:41.59 and shall not understand, 00:24:41.62\00:24:43.39 and seeing you will see, and not perceive" 00:24:43.42\00:24:46.10 For the hearts of this people have growing dull, 00:24:46.13\00:24:48.74 and their ears are hard of hearing, 00:24:48.77\00:24:50.83 and their eyes they have closed, 00:24:50.86\00:24:52.88 lest they should see with their eyes, 00:24:52.91\00:24:54.40 and hear with their ears, lest they should understand 00:24:54.43\00:24:56.78 with their hearts in turn so I should heal them." 00:24:56.81\00:25:00.07 So what do you think the problem was, John? 00:25:00.10\00:25:02.74 The problem was that they weren't hearing 00:25:02.77\00:25:04.77 and listening, seeing the truth. 00:25:04.80\00:25:06.16 Self-inflicted. 00:25:06.19\00:25:08.50 And so the parable was there, because the Lord says, 00:25:08.53\00:25:11.92 I didn't just start talking to them 00:25:11.95\00:25:13.37 I've been saying this for centuries. 00:25:13.40\00:25:15.50 And also the context of this parable. 00:25:15.53\00:25:17.72 If you look at the discussion between Jesus 00:25:17.75\00:25:20.99 and the people that were standing there, 00:25:21.02\00:25:23.23 had nothing to do with what happens 00:25:23.26\00:25:24.46 when you die. No. 00:25:24.49\00:25:25.86 It's just nothing at all, in fact Jesus, 00:25:25.89\00:25:27.39 always the parables, if you want to understand the parable, 00:25:27.42\00:25:30.02 look it in the context with which the parable begins. 00:25:30.05\00:25:33.17 Where, why he brings it up. 00:25:33.20\00:25:34.83 It's usually in the discussion of what is occurring 00:25:34.86\00:25:37.37 or that the conversation is going on between Jesus 00:25:37.40\00:25:40.30 and those around Him. 00:25:40.33\00:25:41.84 And in this case, there was no discussion 00:25:41.87\00:25:43.55 about what happens when you die. No. 00:25:43.58\00:25:45.40 This parable was not meant to talk about that at all. No. 00:25:45.43\00:25:48.52 It was not about a condition in death, 00:25:48.55\00:25:50.37 or what will happen as you said John after you die. 00:25:50.40\00:25:53.33 A couple of passages, Psalms 78:2, 00:25:53.36\00:25:56.88 David Psalmist wrote this about what Jesus would do, 00:25:56.91\00:26:00.26 "I will open my mouth in a parable. 00:26:00.29\00:26:03.40 I will utter dark sayings of old." 00:26:03.43\00:26:06.69 Verse 3, "Which we have heard and known" 00:26:06.72\00:26:09.33 he wasn't saying anything new. "And our fathers have told us." 00:26:09.36\00:26:13.40 "We would not hide them from our children 00:26:13.43\00:26:15.47 telling to the generation to come the praises of the Lord 00:26:15.50\00:26:19.99 and his strength, and his wonderful works 00:26:20.02\00:26:22.49 that he has done." 00:26:22.52\00:26:24.15 So the testimony was established there 00:26:24.18\00:26:26.87 and also in Ezekiel now, 00:26:26.90\00:26:29.01 Ezekiel 17:2, "Son of man, posed a riddle, 00:26:29.04\00:26:34.00 and speak a parable to the house of Israel." 00:26:34.03\00:26:37.16 You notice what happened to the house of Israel. 00:26:37.19\00:26:39.06 Now why? Because he had been so clear to them. 00:26:39.09\00:26:41.61 Now he says, they're not getting it. 00:26:41.64\00:26:43.18 Let me use some object lessons. 00:26:43.21\00:26:45.14 So when you look at the story of here in Ezekiel 17, 00:26:45.17\00:26:50.09 the Lord brings out a truth through a picture. 00:26:50.12\00:26:55.99 And he talks about the parable of the eagle. 00:26:56.02\00:26:58.25 And last one Ezekiel 24:3, 00:26:58.28\00:27:02.09 "An utter of parable to the rebellious house 00:27:02.12\00:27:06.53 and say to them, thus says the Lord God." 00:27:06.56\00:27:10.27 And he starts with the parable again. 00:27:10.30\00:27:12.30 So notice this. 00:27:12.33\00:27:13.57 They have been used from generations to generations 00:27:13.60\00:27:15.61 to generations, the Lord speaking to them in parables. 00:27:15.64\00:27:17.91 But now when Jesus comes, 00:27:17.94\00:27:19.05 He says, I'm going to speak with them 00:27:19.08\00:27:20.11 because they haven't hard in the past, 00:27:20.14\00:27:23.04 and they're not hearing it now. 00:27:23.07\00:27:24.81 So that was just a confirmation 00:27:24.84\00:27:26.23 that He was speaking to the same people. 00:27:26.26\00:27:28.92 You know if, even if for the sake of argument, 00:27:28.95\00:27:32.04 you were to give someone this hope. 00:27:32.07\00:27:33.93 And we are talking about the subject 00:27:33.96\00:27:34.99 of what happens when you die, 00:27:35.02\00:27:36.37 you know there's your consciousness beyond death. 00:27:36.40\00:27:39.11 Are people's souls apart from the body 00:27:39.14\00:27:40.89 living in heaven right now? 00:27:40.92\00:27:43.31 Let's say you give them that some of these texts 00:27:43.34\00:27:46.35 that they bring up or prove that happens, 00:27:46.38\00:27:48.16 and there's may be, what four or five in whole Bible. 00:27:48.19\00:27:51.58 Argument, yeah. 00:27:51.61\00:27:52.73 Just for argument sake, let's say you give them that 00:27:52.76\00:27:55.51 and now you have a problem because there are many texts, 00:27:55.54\00:27:59.90 probably hundreds that tell you, 00:27:59.93\00:28:03.45 that when you die, you rest in the grave 00:28:03.48\00:28:06.03 and you don't know anything. 00:28:06.06\00:28:08.01 The dead know nothing. Right. 00:28:08.04\00:28:09.46 Because they have no part in anything 00:28:09.49\00:28:10.81 that goes on under the sun. That's right. 00:28:10.84\00:28:12.44 And the soul that sin shall die, 00:28:12.47\00:28:15.17 I mean I can, we can talk about hundreds of texts. 00:28:15.20\00:28:18.37 So you have a problem, 00:28:18.40\00:28:19.47 because now you make the Bible inconsistent. Right. 00:28:19.50\00:28:22.86 It is contradictory. It contradicts itself. 00:28:22.89\00:28:25.76 And now you start tearing down the word. 00:28:25.79\00:28:27.83 So the burden of proof is not on us, 00:28:27.86\00:28:30.92 to establish that when you die, 00:28:30.95\00:28:32.81 you rest in the grave until the resurrection 00:28:32.84\00:28:35.24 not knowing a thing that's going on 00:28:35.27\00:28:37.12 and then at the resurrection you're brought back to life, 00:28:37.15\00:28:40.02 body, soul everything together to go to heaven. 00:28:40.05\00:28:44.26 And so the burden of proof is not on us, 00:28:44.29\00:28:47.41 it's on someone else, 00:28:47.44\00:28:48.54 who is trying to take these other texts 00:28:48.57\00:28:50.46 out of the text of all of scripture, 00:28:50.49\00:28:52.98 these other texts that clearly establish the truth. 00:28:53.01\00:28:56.90 And you have a problem with God's word now. That's right. 00:28:56.93\00:29:00.12 You know, you got to be very careful 00:29:00.15\00:29:01.76 when you are reading any of these texts, 00:29:01.79\00:29:03.79 to make sure you're reading the preponderance 00:29:03.82\00:29:05.42 of the evidence, all the other texts, 00:29:05.45\00:29:06.91 everything else that deals with the subject 00:29:06.94\00:29:08.36 and putting it together. 00:29:08.39\00:29:09.64 Right, like a house, you put all the pieces together 00:29:09.67\00:29:12.33 and it doesn't become a car, 00:29:12.36\00:29:14.12 but if you just take a screw may be, 00:29:14.15\00:29:17.79 or a piece of metal from the building site, 00:29:17.82\00:29:20.87 and say, this came from a car, 00:29:20.90\00:29:22.74 somebody says, show me all the rest of it. 00:29:22.77\00:29:25.26 And he goes, it's not a car, it's a house. 00:29:25.29\00:29:27.37 So that's the thing you have to be very careful, 00:29:27.40\00:29:28.84 don't take a single text 00:29:28.87\00:29:29.93 and build a whole teaching around it, 00:29:29.96\00:29:31.85 because not even Jesus did that. Right. 00:29:31.88\00:29:34.77 Well, thank you for your questions 00:29:34.80\00:29:36.11 as you know, we don't always have time 00:29:36.14\00:29:37.78 to go through all the questions, 00:29:37.81\00:29:38.85 but if you have anymore, 00:29:38.88\00:29:40.29 if we've awaken within your mind 00:29:40.32\00:29:41.61 something you like to ask us, 00:29:41.64\00:29:43.59 send those questions to housecalls@3abn.org. 00:29:43.62\00:29:46.37 That's housecalls@3abn.org. 00:29:46.40\00:29:49.61 And we will get those answers to you 00:29:49.64\00:29:51.85 from the word of God as is our custom. 00:29:51.88\00:29:54.41 Thank you very much. 00:29:54.44\00:29:56.38 We're going to dive back into our topic 00:29:56.41\00:29:58.33 entitled "To tell the truth." 00:29:58.36\00:30:01.58 We've talked about some things in our prior program 00:30:01.61\00:30:04.71 and to set the stage again 00:30:04.74\00:30:07.14 to going back with that topic of discussion. 00:30:07.17\00:30:09.73 We talked about pluralism, relevancy, tolerance. 00:30:09.76\00:30:16.52 These phrases and words that have now 00:30:16.55\00:30:20.11 dived into Christian church 00:30:20.14\00:30:21.65 are swimming in the same pool with Christians, 00:30:21.68\00:30:24.50 and but are completely opposed to the word of God. 00:30:24.53\00:30:27.90 Here Christians are saying, 00:30:27.93\00:30:29.20 now since we are in the same pool now, 00:30:29.23\00:30:31.58 let's go ahead and listen to what they have to say. 00:30:31.61\00:30:33.81 And by the way, John, when you think about it, 00:30:33.84\00:30:37.06 pluralism was introduced at the tree 00:30:37.09\00:30:38.76 of the knowledge of good and evil. 00:30:38.79\00:30:40.63 Because they say, the devil said to Eve, 00:30:40.66\00:30:44.00 did God really say. 00:30:44.03\00:30:45.17 And he said, well, let me give my view point 00:30:45.20\00:30:47.32 that's what I think God said, 00:30:47.35\00:30:48.84 and he introduced another viewpoint. 00:30:48.87\00:30:51.58 He says, you will not surely die, 00:30:51.61\00:30:53.11 so the topic was death. 00:30:53.14\00:30:54.89 The topic was death, follow me. 00:30:54.92\00:30:55.99 Topic is death, Jesus says, you will surely die, 00:30:56.02\00:30:58.53 Satan says, you will not surely die. 00:30:58.56\00:31:00.39 Pluralism, right there. 00:31:00.42\00:31:01.89 So pluralism was in our world from the very beginning 00:31:01.92\00:31:04.63 but now it's found a home 00:31:04.66\00:31:06.60 and it's being sold through Christianity 00:31:06.63\00:31:09.61 to the rest of the Christian world. 00:31:09.64\00:31:11.95 And we are now down to the place 00:31:11.98\00:31:13.38 where it says, does it really matter. 00:31:13.41\00:31:15.75 Is it relevant? 00:31:15.78\00:31:17.42 Are you sure that your perception 00:31:17.45\00:31:19.20 is more important than my perception. 00:31:19.23\00:31:21.83 Look at all that's being done, 00:31:21.86\00:31:22.89 why are we spending time on things that are dividing us. 00:31:22.92\00:31:26.71 So let's find in what I am hearing being said, John is. 00:31:26.74\00:31:30.06 Let's find out what divides us and stop believing that. 00:31:30.09\00:31:33.80 But the problem is, if it's from God's word, 00:31:33.83\00:31:37.20 then we have to prefer the word of God over just the division. 00:31:37.23\00:31:41.90 And didn't Jesus say, 00:31:41.93\00:31:42.96 He came to bring us sword? Right. 00:31:42.99\00:31:45.39 So, there's some relevance there. 00:31:45.42\00:31:47.49 The truth is not always comfortable. 00:31:47.52\00:31:52.18 You know-- 00:31:52.21\00:31:53.58 I think I first heard it from Pastor Murray, 00:31:53.61\00:31:56.36 he says I came to comfort the afflicted 00:31:56.39\00:31:59.50 but afflict the comfortable. 00:31:59.53\00:32:02.55 And in many respects that's exactly what the truth does. 00:32:02.58\00:32:04.81 When you find the truth, it doesn't make you comfortable, 00:32:04.84\00:32:06.85 it makes you uncomfortable, 00:32:06.88\00:32:08.80 because you're out of harmony with God's word 00:32:08.83\00:32:12.02 and you are unreconciled with God, 00:32:12.05\00:32:14.11 but then He brings comfort through the truth, 00:32:14.14\00:32:16.33 because we begin to change our lives 00:32:16.36\00:32:18.13 and live according to the truth. 00:32:18.16\00:32:20.30 And so when we are talking about 00:32:20.33\00:32:21.51 a lot of these issues and there's someone's reluctance 00:32:21.54\00:32:24.03 or a desire to find another truth, 00:32:24.06\00:32:26.20 or another way of seeing the truth. 00:32:26.23\00:32:28.44 And pluralism, you know, 00:32:28.47\00:32:29.54 the different truths that are out there, 00:32:29.57\00:32:32.33 you know, we are saying that 00:32:32.36\00:32:33.39 people don't like this discomfort, 00:32:33.42\00:32:35.67 but they're not willing to push through it. 00:32:35.70\00:32:37.86 They would rather just stay and be comfortable. 00:32:37.89\00:32:39.92 I can't tell you how many times that I've done a series, 00:32:39.95\00:32:43.62 or we've done, I've done Bible studies, 00:32:43.65\00:32:47.20 where at the final, at the end of that it comes 00:32:47.23\00:32:49.67 to where they are going to make a decision. 00:32:49.70\00:32:51.84 And a lot of them have said 00:32:51.87\00:32:53.87 and I hear this over ago, over and over again 00:32:53.90\00:32:56.04 this is good information. 00:32:56.07\00:32:58.48 Now this is, I see the truth in this, 00:32:58.51\00:33:01.68 but they don't want to change. Isn't that ridiculous. 00:33:01.71\00:33:03.89 You ask them, so you see the truth of the Sabbath, 00:33:03.92\00:33:07.54 or you see the truth of what happens 00:33:07.57\00:33:09.89 when you die or you see the truth about God's church 00:33:09.92\00:33:13.09 and how God is using His church 00:33:13.12\00:33:14.90 to finish the work in the last days 00:33:14.93\00:33:16.59 and the prophecies and, 00:33:16.62\00:33:18.18 and you don't want to follow it? Right. 00:33:18.21\00:33:20.54 Or I have to say, I don't know, 00:33:20.57\00:33:23.82 I just feel like, you know, my whole church, 00:33:23.85\00:33:25.88 you know we love the Lord, 00:33:25.91\00:33:27.21 and excuse, I can't tell you, 00:33:27.24\00:33:30.08 how many different excuses I've heard 00:33:30.11\00:33:32.34 to resist following the truth. Right. 00:33:32.37\00:33:35.64 And it's almost like John, there is we've taken away 00:33:35.67\00:33:39.28 "Christianity itself at large" 00:33:39.31\00:33:42.75 we have taken away an accountability. Yes. 00:33:42.78\00:33:45.90 For living for God. 00:33:45.93\00:33:47.37 But somehow we can say that we live for Jesus 00:33:47.40\00:33:50.88 but not live for Jesus, or follow His truth. 00:33:50.91\00:33:54.62 And we talked last, in the last program 00:33:54.65\00:33:56.52 about being a slave to righteousness. 00:33:56.55\00:33:58.51 So what does a slave does, do? 00:33:58.54\00:34:00.40 He serves, we serve Christ. 00:34:00.43\00:34:02.70 We've become a slave to Christ. 00:34:02.73\00:34:03.81 We're obligated now 00:34:03.84\00:34:05.51 to follow His ways and His teachings. 00:34:05.54\00:34:08.07 You know, we want to be a disciple 00:34:08.10\00:34:09.96 but not listen to Him, or follow His examples. 00:34:09.99\00:34:12.72 You know the meaning of disciple is 00:34:12.75\00:34:16.16 that I follow my master's teachings. 00:34:16.19\00:34:18.29 I will learn from my master. 00:34:18.32\00:34:19.63 I will follow him and obey him that is what a disciple is. 00:34:19.66\00:34:23.43 But we want be a disciple and then do what we want to do, 00:34:23.46\00:34:27.36 rather than following the word of God. 00:34:27.39\00:34:29.31 And it just, it's an amazing thing, 00:34:29.34\00:34:31.82 I believe that the Bible clearly says that 00:34:31.85\00:34:34.03 in the last days, this kind of thing will happen? 00:34:34.06\00:34:36.41 Oh, yeah. 00:34:36.44\00:34:37.62 And we are seeing it happen, which is another reason 00:34:37.65\00:34:39.43 why I believe we are so close to the end of time. 00:34:39.46\00:34:42.54 John, I struggle and I know you struggle with this, 00:34:42.57\00:34:44.80 why aren't we seeing the numbers in North America? 00:34:44.83\00:34:48.59 Why aren't we seeing the conversions? 00:34:48.62\00:34:50.66 That may be we had once seen it at one point of time, 00:34:50.69\00:34:52.89 why are we seeing so few come to the truth? 00:34:52.92\00:34:55.31 Why don't we even have to have a-- 00:34:55.34\00:34:59.20 what do you call it, some kind of a program 00:34:59.23\00:35:02.31 or drive to have more baptisms this year, 00:35:02.34\00:35:05.53 or more conversions through the preaching of the truth. 00:35:05.56\00:35:08.91 And without actually seeing this kind of thing 00:35:08.94\00:35:12.01 that is happening in India, it's happening in Africa. 00:35:12.04\00:35:15.81 It's happening in so many parts of the undeveloped world, 00:35:15.84\00:35:19.15 thousands coming to the knowledge of the truth, 00:35:19.18\00:35:21.32 so finding such a wonderful precious gem of God's truth 00:35:21.35\00:35:26.28 and following and being baptized into it, 00:35:26.31\00:35:28.84 we're just not seeing it here. 00:35:28.87\00:35:30.04 You know I believe that in America, 00:35:30.07\00:35:31.46 we have to get to where they are already are in India, 00:35:31.49\00:35:33.99 rather than them getting to where we are in America. 00:35:34.02\00:35:36.52 When they get to where we are, 00:35:36.55\00:35:37.58 they begin to not treasure the truth, 00:35:37.61\00:35:40.15 but when we get to where they are, 00:35:40.18\00:35:41.52 we begin to see that the only thing 00:35:41.55\00:35:42.67 that really does matter is the truth. Yeah. 00:35:42.70\00:35:44.47 It does really matter. 00:35:44.50\00:35:45.89 Jesus made a point very clear in Luke 6:46. 00:35:45.92\00:35:49.63 And I've talked about Mathew 7:21-23, 00:35:49.66\00:35:51.91 many saying Lord, Lord. 00:35:51.94\00:35:53.37 Even Jesus say, I never knew you. 00:35:53.40\00:35:54.96 Well, here's the reason why. 00:35:54.99\00:35:56.62 Luke 6:46, "But why do you call me Lord, Lord. 00:35:56.65\00:36:01.26 And do not do the things which I say." 00:36:01.29\00:36:05.30 Talk about the word Lord. 00:36:05.33\00:36:07.05 Because I mean, that's what we study. 00:36:07.08\00:36:08.83 We got to talk about that 00:36:08.86\00:36:09.89 because we call Jesus our Savior. Right. 00:36:09.92\00:36:12.57 There are very few who call Him, or they call Him Lord, 00:36:12.60\00:36:14.83 but they don't make Him their Lord. 00:36:14.86\00:36:16.25 Right, Lord is in the same context of landlord. 00:36:16.28\00:36:19.25 He is in charge, he is the owner. 00:36:19.28\00:36:21.93 He is not in the passenger seat, he is the driver. 00:36:21.96\00:36:25.10 He's calling the shots 00:36:25.13\00:36:26.63 and people want Jesus for the salvation part, 00:36:26.66\00:36:29.14 you know they want, they like the Jesus part. 00:36:29.17\00:36:31.31 He saves us from our sins, He is our savior. 00:36:31.34\00:36:33.46 But He is our Lord also. 00:36:33.49\00:36:35.47 And that means, He tells you what to do 00:36:35.50\00:36:37.54 and those who have a problem with that 00:36:37.57\00:36:39.38 are in the pluralistic society nowadays, always saying, 00:36:39.41\00:36:43.76 well it doesn't, you know, 00:36:43.79\00:36:45.35 that's good enough for you, this is good enough for me. 00:36:45.38\00:36:47.62 That's why John, we begin to see people 00:36:47.65\00:36:49.95 that are falling away and saying, well, 00:36:49.98\00:36:53.62 if that's what your denomination teaches, 00:36:53.65\00:36:55.64 that's not what my denomination teaches. 00:36:55.67\00:36:57.69 And we have this denominationalism 00:36:57.72\00:37:00.58 and there's even the inference of non-denominationalism, 00:37:00.61\00:37:05.98 which is another cloak, of throwing out doctrines, 00:37:06.01\00:37:10.23 which infact if you're teaching from the Bible, it is doctrines. 00:37:10.26\00:37:13.95 Because the word doctrine 00:37:13.98\00:37:15.01 simply is another word for teachings. 00:37:15.04\00:37:17.38 Right. You see. 00:37:17.41\00:37:18.44 So you can't really get around that. 00:37:18.47\00:37:20.45 And non-denominational that word it's almost like 00:37:20.48\00:37:22.89 there is a pride element there with casting off 00:37:22.92\00:37:25.94 the baggage that holds denominational churches. 00:37:25.97\00:37:28.94 They say it's a real baggage or something, 00:37:28.97\00:37:31.03 but anyway it's almost like, what we're non-denominational 00:37:31.06\00:37:34.27 so, you know what that tells me sometimes 00:37:34.30\00:37:36.62 is more things are acceptable here in our church than 00:37:36.65\00:37:40.02 may be are acceptable in some other churches 00:37:40.05\00:37:41.69 and I find that sad. That's exactly what the case is. 00:37:41.72\00:37:44.85 They say well, if you couldn't do it in your church, 00:37:44.88\00:37:46.92 it's fine here. 00:37:46.95\00:37:48.63 And the other thing of this, 00:37:48.66\00:37:50.34 we have brought the world upto the church, 00:37:50.37\00:37:53.42 sorry, the church, 00:37:53.45\00:37:54.88 the world has brought the church down to the world. 00:37:54.91\00:37:58.09 Not the other way around. 00:37:58.12\00:37:59.15 Because the church is supposed to bring the world up, 00:37:59.18\00:38:01.96 meaning giving it new direction, 00:38:01.99\00:38:04.44 but you begin to see that it's not doing that. 00:38:04.47\00:38:07.36 Let me dive into some Bible text here. 00:38:07.39\00:38:09.38 Look at, we wrote down a little, 00:38:09.41\00:38:11.62 just to keep ourselves fluid here. 00:38:11.65\00:38:15.15 I want to show you one here 00:38:15.18\00:38:17.19 in number 37 here, text number 37. 00:38:17.22\00:38:22.67 And by the way 1 Timothy 2:4, 00:38:22.70\00:38:25.71 Jesus says who desires, who desires all men to be saved 00:38:25.74\00:38:29.84 and to come to the knowledge of the truth. And. 00:38:29.87\00:38:33.89 Right, and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 00:38:33.92\00:38:37.41 But look at 2 Timothy 3:7, 00:38:37.44\00:38:40.17 "Always learning but never able to come 00:38:40.20\00:38:43.11 to the knowledge of the truth." You see. 00:38:43.14\00:38:45.37 People are always learning, they are always studying 00:38:45.40\00:38:47.53 but they never actually come to the truth. 00:38:47.56\00:38:49.35 Let's go and illustrate. 00:38:49.38\00:38:50.75 I'm saved, sanctified, 00:38:50.78\00:38:54.09 but I don't these truth things are not really relevant. 00:38:54.12\00:38:56.45 He doesn't only want men to be saved 00:38:56.48\00:38:58.59 and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 00:38:58.62\00:39:01.42 But men are always learning 00:39:01.45\00:39:02.83 and John look at the bookstores nowadays. 00:39:02.86\00:39:04.66 Christian bookstores are places 00:39:04.69\00:39:06.58 where people go to better their lives, 00:39:06.61\00:39:08.68 a very good thing. 00:39:08.71\00:39:12.90 But you can go to any stores, you go to Barnes and Nobles 00:39:12.93\00:39:15.89 or Blue Dolphins or you know, you name it. 00:39:15.92\00:39:20.25 You can just go to any bookstore and get the same books 00:39:20.28\00:39:22.31 that you find in the Christian book store 00:39:22.34\00:39:23.45 because all of that is pointing nowadays to temporary stuff, 00:39:23.48\00:39:28.76 they are ever learning. 00:39:28.79\00:39:31.41 But they are never able to come to the knowledge of truth, 00:39:31.44\00:39:33.46 that the truth is not acceptable. 00:39:33.49\00:39:36.38 I have to share this story. Go ahead. 00:39:36.41\00:39:38.74 We have, I have a member in our church 00:39:38.77\00:39:41.35 who is in charge of our Bible program, 00:39:41.38\00:39:44.19 correspondence Bible studies 00:39:44.22\00:39:45.93 or assigning somebody to do personal Bible studies 00:39:45.96\00:39:48.84 for somebody who's asked. 00:39:48.87\00:39:50.56 Anyway they said, they came to me one day 00:39:50.59\00:39:52.81 and they said, I have this lady 00:39:52.84\00:39:55.04 and she has taken Amazing Facts Bible study courses 00:39:55.07\00:39:58.83 and Discovery Bible study courses, 00:39:58.86\00:40:00.42 both the beginning and the advanced, 00:40:00.45\00:40:02.20 and she just will not make a decision. 00:40:02.23\00:40:06.40 And I said, you need to set an appointment 00:40:06.43\00:40:08.32 and I will go with you. 00:40:08.35\00:40:09.48 Let's go see her, let's go see her. 00:40:09.51\00:40:12.32 I didn't know who she was, I didn't know what to expect. 00:40:12.35\00:40:14.75 So she made this appointment 00:40:14.78\00:40:15.88 and we both went over to visit this lady 00:40:15.91\00:40:19.05 and a dear lady, very nice, very kind, 00:40:19.08\00:40:21.48 her husband was not a Christian at all. 00:40:21.51\00:40:24.34 He was in the next room, had the TV going 00:40:24.37\00:40:26.70 but we sat in her kitchen and I just talked to her 00:40:26.73\00:40:29.91 just, I know just let her the first time, 00:40:29.94\00:40:32.03 just to find a little about her, and she talked, and talked, 00:40:32.06\00:40:35.43 and talked, and talked 00:40:35.46\00:40:37.11 and then she told the story of a God convicted her once 00:40:37.14\00:40:40.44 that she talks too much. 00:40:40.47\00:40:43.37 And that she needs to listen to the Lord more 00:40:43.40\00:40:46.60 and to really hear what He is saying and follow that. 00:40:46.63\00:40:50.58 And then she continued to talk and to talk and to talk. 00:40:50.61\00:40:54.43 And of course, you know, what I was starting 00:40:54.46\00:40:55.71 to conclude myself there, I couldn't even get a word in, 00:40:55.74\00:40:58.13 I mean, she just constantly talked. 00:40:58.16\00:41:01.04 And I said, I have to stop you, 00:41:01.07\00:41:02.81 let me just ask you a few questions 00:41:02.84\00:41:04.86 and I pressed her a little bit 00:41:04.89\00:41:06.04 on the some of the stuff that she has learned. 00:41:06.07\00:41:08.04 I said, what do you gather from this. 00:41:08.07\00:41:10.24 And, you know, she talked and she talked some more 00:41:10.27\00:41:12.52 and talked around the subject 00:41:12.55\00:41:14.15 and I just got, I got tired, John. 00:41:14.18\00:41:16.45 I got tired, I was exhausted, 00:41:16.48\00:41:19.68 after talking and sitting with this lady for an hour. 00:41:19.71\00:41:22.96 I could not get her anywhere close to making a decision 00:41:22.99\00:41:26.47 on any of these things that she had learned. 00:41:26.50\00:41:28.52 Do it with the other word, shut up. 00:41:28.55\00:41:31.72 Anyway I've looked, finally I looked over the girl, 00:41:31.75\00:41:34.40 that the lady in our church who set up the meeting 00:41:34.43\00:41:39.72 and I talked to this girl as well, 00:41:39.75\00:41:42.06 I said to her very specifically 00:41:42.09\00:41:43.37 and I said, you have been learning 00:41:43.40\00:41:45.38 and studying many things 00:41:45.41\00:41:46.63 and am I take it with me from your studies 00:41:46.66\00:41:50.99 that you don't want to change the way 00:41:51.02\00:41:53.97 that you are following the Lord. 00:41:54.00\00:41:57.51 The Lord has taught you some new things 00:41:57.54\00:41:59.15 that you're not going to follow those things. 00:41:59.18\00:42:02.16 She said, well, I just, and she talked, 00:42:02.19\00:42:04.40 and she talked and she kept talking. 00:42:04.43\00:42:07.55 And finally I said, you know, what I really got to get going. 00:42:07.58\00:42:11.13 I said we've been here in hour, a pleasure to meet you. 00:42:11.16\00:42:14.64 I prayed with her there. 00:42:14.67\00:42:15.73 We had some good prayer time there to close and we left. 00:42:15.76\00:42:19.15 And my counsel to the girl who set up the meeting was, 00:42:19.18\00:42:23.43 you're done, you're done. 00:42:23.46\00:42:26.48 It's time that this lady will take more of your time 00:42:26.51\00:42:30.91 and she will never come to the knowledge of the truth. 00:42:30.94\00:42:33.10 She will take more of your time 00:42:33.13\00:42:34.76 away from those who are opened to the truth. 00:42:34.79\00:42:37.32 You need to be seeking out 00:42:37.35\00:42:38.38 those who are opened to the truth. 00:42:38.41\00:42:40.00 And so these texts are very relevant in the story 00:42:40.03\00:42:43.85 and that is there are some who study and study and study, 00:42:43.88\00:42:46.52 but they never come to the knowledge of the truth. 00:42:46.55\00:42:48.88 God is looking for those who will make Him their Savior 00:42:48.91\00:42:52.38 but also would make Him their Lord, 00:42:52.41\00:42:56.13 and they will follow Him in His teaching 00:42:56.16\00:42:58.56 and put it into the practice 00:42:58.59\00:43:00.58 as John, 1 John, we looked to this before. 00:43:00.61\00:43:03.39 Those don't let someone deceive you, 00:43:03.42\00:43:05.41 John it says, he who practices righteousness 00:43:05.44\00:43:08.64 is righteous. Right. 00:43:08.67\00:43:10.00 Not just someone who talks 00:43:10.03\00:43:11.66 about righteousness. That's right. 00:43:11.69\00:43:12.91 You got to practice, 00:43:12.94\00:43:13.97 you got to put God's teaching into practice, 00:43:14.00\00:43:15.90 then you are His disciple. 00:43:15.93\00:43:17.68 And I am sorry there are some today 00:43:17.71\00:43:19.04 who will never get there. 00:43:19.07\00:43:20.44 And I feel sorrow for them, John. 00:43:20.47\00:43:22.79 It's not like, don't think I'm just casting them off. 00:43:22.82\00:43:26.39 Even Jesus Himself said, 00:43:26.42\00:43:27.67 that if His disciples if you go into the town 00:43:27.70\00:43:29.82 and they don't receive you, 00:43:29.85\00:43:31.46 a symbolically, shake the dust off your feet 00:43:31.49\00:43:33.63 and keep moving, get to someone who will hear 00:43:33.66\00:43:35.97 and who will understand 00:43:36.00\00:43:37.49 and I have to sometimes reluctantly take that advice. 00:43:37.52\00:43:41.68 And it is true, when you have done 00:43:41.71\00:43:43.56 all that you can, all that you can 00:43:43.59\00:43:47.17 and although you have been impressed to do by God, 00:43:47.20\00:43:49.75 then you really can't do anymore. 00:43:49.78\00:43:51.46 Sometimes we have to allow, 00:43:51.49\00:43:53.09 and this is the only encouragement 00:43:53.12\00:43:54.52 I get from what you've said to me. 00:43:54.55\00:43:56.44 One plants, one waters, but God gives the increase. 00:43:56.47\00:44:01.06 So that the seeds have been planted 00:44:01.09\00:44:03.34 but they have been watered 00:44:03.37\00:44:04.67 but somebody's got to come along one day, 00:44:04.70\00:44:07.28 let me give you a story. It has to be somebody else. 00:44:07.31\00:44:08.52 Somebody's got to somebody else. Yeah. 00:44:08.55\00:44:10.35 Your work like you said, your work is done. 00:44:10.38\00:44:12.72 I was invited to a country to do a one-week evangelistic series 00:44:12.75\00:44:17.95 and I was there and the pastor, 00:44:17.98\00:44:19.79 well, pastor who, is there anybody here particularly, 00:44:19.82\00:44:21.97 we are talking about baptism this week, 00:44:22.00\00:44:23.21 anybody here particular-- 00:44:23.24\00:44:24.82 and we mentioned a brother, whose wife attended the church 00:44:24.85\00:44:29.00 and, he had been coming with her for years. 00:44:29.03\00:44:33.10 He said but this man just would not make up his mind. 00:44:33.13\00:44:35.96 I've done everything I could, may be we could visit him. 00:44:35.99\00:44:39.41 I went to visit him and asked him a few questions 00:44:39.44\00:44:42.16 and I says, what would change 00:44:42.19\00:44:44.25 if you gave your life to the Lord. 00:44:44.28\00:44:45.31 Well, do you still party and dance anywhere? No. 00:44:45.34\00:44:48.25 Do you still drink? No. 00:44:48.28\00:44:50.37 Do you go to church with your wife? 00:44:50.40\00:44:51.46 Yeah, periodically I go with her. 00:44:51.49\00:44:53.39 Any smoking anything? No. 00:44:53.42\00:44:55.29 Any running around? No. 00:44:55.32\00:44:57.93 Are you, do you have an honest relationship 00:44:57.96\00:44:59.57 in your marriage. Yes. 00:44:59.60\00:45:02.42 So what would change? Well, really nothing. 00:45:02.45\00:45:05.08 Nothing, much would change. 00:45:05.11\00:45:06.70 I said, yes. Something will change. 00:45:06.73\00:45:08.03 You know what will change. 00:45:08.06\00:45:09.66 You as the head of this household will open the door 00:45:09.69\00:45:11.90 for God to bring blessings into this family. 00:45:11.93\00:45:15.26 Right now it's partial, 00:45:15.29\00:45:16.85 because you haven't made up your mind to serve the Lord. 00:45:16.88\00:45:18.98 But if you open the door to allow the Lord to come in, 00:45:19.01\00:45:22.05 He sat and scratched his head 00:45:22.08\00:45:23.66 and I am thinking if I scratched my head that long 00:45:23.69\00:45:25.21 I'd be pulling my hair out. 00:45:25.24\00:45:27.21 Finally, I said I tell you what, 00:45:27.24\00:45:29.69 and here's what I would encourage 00:45:29.72\00:45:31.63 those of you who are in the tough situations, 00:45:31.66\00:45:33.60 say to people that are tottering on the fence. 00:45:33.63\00:45:35.88 You know, since you've been studying, 00:45:35.91\00:45:38.25 let me pray with you and claim you for the Lord. 00:45:38.28\00:45:41.08 And we're going to prepare for your baptism 00:45:41.11\00:45:42.48 next week, is that okay. 00:45:42.51\00:45:44.82 And I said, now, we want you to be in the kingdom, 00:45:44.85\00:45:46.69 the Lord does too. Next let's do that next week. 00:45:46.72\00:45:49.32 You already know everything else. 00:45:49.35\00:45:50.99 The next step is completing the process, 00:45:51.02\00:45:53.09 are you ready for that, and you know what, 00:45:53.12\00:45:54.59 he got baptized the very next day. 00:45:54.62\00:45:56.72 It was so exciting, 00:45:56.75\00:45:58.28 and we have a picture of him there getting baptized together, 00:45:58.31\00:46:02.44 and it was a wonderful thing, wonderful occasion. 00:46:02.47\00:46:05.57 And the Lord was praised by that 00:46:05.60\00:46:07.90 but here's what I want to encourage you. 00:46:07.93\00:46:09.74 You have done all that you could do, 00:46:09.77\00:46:11.72 but God's got to send somebody 00:46:11.75\00:46:12.92 with of totally different approach, 00:46:12.95\00:46:14.56 may be on the day when this lady is done talking. Yeah. 00:46:14.59\00:46:20.27 So just get into the kingdom. Yeah. 00:46:20.30\00:46:21.88 But let's dive back into the topic here, John. 00:46:21.91\00:46:24.21 Friends look with us to 2 Timothy 4, 2 Timothy 4. 00:46:24.24\00:46:28.96 Here's what we are up against, here's what we are up against. 00:46:28.99\00:46:31.40 And we've talked about some of the topics. 00:46:31.43\00:46:32.63 I think we mentioned the Sabbath, 00:46:32.66\00:46:34.53 on the endangered species list, didn't we John? Yes. 00:46:34.56\00:46:37.99 We talked about the commandments. 00:46:38.02\00:46:39.15 What's the another topic that's on the endangered species list? 00:46:39.18\00:46:44.17 Well, we're talking about the gifted prophecies, 00:46:44.20\00:46:46.69 another one of them, 00:46:46.72\00:46:47.85 that somehow may be that gift isn't going to be relevant 00:46:47.88\00:46:50.96 in the last days, or relevant even during our times. 00:46:50.99\00:46:54.45 And I think there are many who again, 00:46:54.48\00:46:57.72 they get very uncomfortable 00:46:57.75\00:46:58.78 when you are talking about the gift of prophecy. 00:46:58.81\00:47:00.13 In fact I find that one of the most difficult things 00:47:00.16\00:47:02.00 for Adventist in particularly talk about, 00:47:02.03\00:47:04.96 as they are giving maybe studies for baptism, 00:47:04.99\00:47:06.95 or talking about getting someone 00:47:06.98\00:47:09.03 to commit to following the truth. 00:47:09.06\00:47:11.60 Is the gift of prophecy, 00:47:11.63\00:47:12.76 it's just is a difficult topic for some people to understand 00:47:12.79\00:47:15.70 and instead of going forward to explain 00:47:15.73\00:47:17.36 that we back off. Right. 00:47:17.39\00:47:18.69 And we compromise, or even in our own lives. 00:47:18.72\00:47:22.17 Somehow that gift can be used in a way to convict us of wrong 00:47:22.20\00:47:25.94 as it was used in David's day. That's right. 00:47:25.97\00:47:28.71 You know and King David, he was doing wrong 00:47:28.74\00:47:31.39 but somehow he hadn't awakened 00:47:31.42\00:47:33.50 in his mind to how much wrong he was doing. 00:47:33.53\00:47:37.33 God sent Nathan, the prophet. That's right. 00:47:37.36\00:47:39.76 And under inspiration, 00:47:39.79\00:47:40.86 Nathan told him a story which was very convicting. 00:47:40.89\00:47:43.81 And I believe today we still can find that prophecy 00:47:43.84\00:47:47.26 and that gift can be used in the church 00:47:47.29\00:47:50.10 to help us follow the truth, or it isn't the truth, 00:47:50.13\00:47:54.31 the essence of the truth itself, the prophet 00:47:54.34\00:47:57.16 but it points us to the truth of God's word, 00:47:57.19\00:47:59.60 that's the tried, the right world of gift of prophecy 00:47:59.63\00:48:01.84 and I believe it is still alive today. 00:48:01.87\00:48:03.49 That's right and in some Seventh-day Christians 00:48:03.52\00:48:06.35 who are looking for-- 00:48:06.38\00:48:08.77 I would say meandering and amazed of mediocrity, 00:48:08.80\00:48:12.16 they kind of want to be in the mix, 00:48:12.19\00:48:13.29 that's the word I've used or the phrase I've used. 00:48:13.32\00:48:16.18 They sometimes minimized the fact that 00:48:16.21\00:48:18.14 God has gifted this Seventh-day Adventist church 00:48:18.17\00:48:21.19 with the gift of prophecy 00:48:21.22\00:48:22.91 through not only the work of the Holy Spirit 00:48:22.94\00:48:25.26 but specifically through the life of Ellen White, 00:48:25.29\00:48:27.70 which for many people that are in this modern, 00:48:27.73\00:48:30.10 postmodern society they say, 00:48:30.13\00:48:31.35 well, is she relevant any longer? 00:48:31.38\00:48:33.43 Well, if you ask commentators nowadays somebody, 00:48:33.46\00:48:37.70 I don't want to mention names here 00:48:37.73\00:48:38.97 but one of the world renowned motivational speakers. 00:48:39.00\00:48:42.73 Somebody talked about going to spend hundreds of dollars 00:48:42.76\00:48:44.99 if I will listen to this person, very, very well known. 00:48:45.02\00:48:48.29 And they said, and the things 00:48:48.32\00:48:50.06 that this person is saying about health, 00:48:50.09\00:48:52.94 sounds like we believe 00:48:52.97\00:48:54.26 and after one of the presentations 00:48:54.29\00:48:55.57 they went to this gentleman 00:48:55.60\00:48:56.63 and asked could I ask you some questions 00:48:56.66\00:48:59.73 and he showed them his notes and John, 00:48:59.76\00:49:02.75 references from Counsels on Diets and Foods, 00:49:02.78\00:49:06.14 Ministry of Healing. 00:49:06.17\00:49:08.11 This motivational heavily, very expensive gentleman 00:49:08.14\00:49:12.08 that pays you know, they pay thousands 00:49:12.11\00:49:14.70 to hear him speak to crowd 00:49:14.73\00:49:16.10 and change their minds of corporate executives. 00:49:16.13\00:49:18.18 He had just packaged what was already there. 00:49:18.21\00:49:20.21 He's taken it from Ellen White's book, 00:49:20.24\00:49:22.41 Counsels on Diet and Food, Ministry of Healing. 00:49:22.44\00:49:25.74 There's another Dr. Chow, 00:49:25.77\00:49:27.06 years ago the story was told about him 00:49:27.09\00:49:28.85 in the late to early '90s late 80s 00:49:28.88\00:49:33.70 when his church had 50,000 members at a time 00:49:33.73\00:49:35.85 and he told two Adventist pastors. 00:49:35.88\00:49:37.70 If you'd simply follow 00:49:37.73\00:49:39.68 the book evangelism in gospel work is your church 00:49:39.71\00:49:41.98 would grow as wide as this church is growing. 00:49:42.01\00:49:44.56 What's happening nowadays in this pluralistic world, 00:49:44.59\00:49:46.87 we're beginning to throw out the distinctive messages, 00:49:46.90\00:49:50.11 and accept things that are not really 00:49:50.14\00:49:53.74 "relevant" to salvation any longer. 00:49:53.77\00:49:55.83 You know, the question also begs, 00:49:55.86\00:49:57.48 you know, we know we are told that 00:49:57.51\00:50:01.15 in the very last days that God would call men servants 00:50:01.18\00:50:05.44 and maid servants, His prophets again to service. 00:50:05.47\00:50:09.30 That's right. That's right. 00:50:09.33\00:50:10.93 And if we can't listen to a prophet 00:50:10.96\00:50:13.02 already that has given us many words of good counsel, 00:50:13.05\00:50:16.40 how we are going to listen at the very end 00:50:16.43\00:50:17.80 when it's a matter of life or death. 00:50:17.83\00:50:20.39 We are not, as a matter of fact we are not. We won't. 00:50:20.42\00:50:23.16 And in fact, how many times do you find in the Old Testament 00:50:23.19\00:50:25.38 where a prophet was well received? 00:50:25.41\00:50:27.59 Oh, what did Jesus, what did Steven say, 00:50:27.62\00:50:30.55 how many times has the Lord sent prophets to you 00:50:30.58\00:50:32.56 that you have not stoned. 00:50:32.59\00:50:34.19 Correct. You see. 00:50:34.22\00:50:36.57 That's a good sermon title, 'the stone age.' 00:50:36.60\00:50:38.49 They've stoned the prophets over and over and over again. 00:50:38.52\00:50:42.06 And that's what happening today. 00:50:42.09\00:50:43.64 The word of God and those who are delivering it 00:50:43.67\00:50:45.63 are being put on the pedestal 00:50:45.66\00:50:46.88 to be stoned not to be directed to. 00:50:46.91\00:50:50.04 About the text I asked you to turn to a moment ago, 00:50:50.07\00:50:52.06 2 Timothy 4:3, 4. 00:50:52.09\00:50:55.92 and that's under the reference number 38 there. 00:50:55.95\00:50:59.30 Notice, read that for us, John, if you have it? 00:50:59.33\00:51:01.64 2 Timothy 4:3, "For the time will come 00:51:01.67\00:51:05.49 when they will not endure sound doctrine, 00:51:05.52\00:51:08.27 but according to their own desires, 00:51:08.30\00:51:11.09 according to what, their own desires 00:51:11.12\00:51:14.76 because they have itching ears, 00:51:14.79\00:51:16.41 in other words they need those ears scratched, 00:51:16.44\00:51:18.57 they need to have to comforting and tickle, 00:51:18.60\00:51:21.62 they will heap up for themselves teachers 00:51:21.65\00:51:25.03 and they will turn their ears away from the truth 00:51:25.06\00:51:28.19 and be turned the side to fables." Wow. 00:51:28.22\00:51:31.23 So what's happening nowadays, I know another words for fables 00:51:31.26\00:51:33.80 and some of you who ought to remember this, 00:51:33.83\00:51:35.74 old lives tales. 00:51:35.77\00:51:38.23 They rather pleasing, in another word, 00:51:38.26\00:51:40.42 the bible uses the word sophistries. 00:51:40.45\00:51:42.69 Oh, that's entertaining. 00:51:42.72\00:51:44.63 And you know, it's sad but a lot of the churches 00:51:44.66\00:51:47.03 nowadays are going towards the direction of entertainment. 00:51:47.06\00:51:50.17 Lights, camera, action. 00:51:50.20\00:51:52.02 And it's great for the feel good mentality 00:51:52.05\00:51:56.85 but it's not doing anything towards the issue of salvation. 00:51:56.88\00:52:00.26 And I did my own word search here. 00:52:00.29\00:52:02.39 And let me just share the statistics 00:52:02.42\00:52:03.93 with you very quickly on the word truth, 00:52:03.96\00:52:06.11 just to show you how relevant 00:52:06.14\00:52:07.59 the Lord believes the truth to be. 00:52:07.62\00:52:09.76 And I used about seven different translations here 00:52:09.79\00:52:12.15 to just kind of statistically look up the word truth, 00:52:12.18\00:52:14.68 just truth, not truth. 00:52:14.71\00:52:17.04 But in the King James Version 00:52:17.07\00:52:18.52 you find the word truth mentioned 235 times. 00:52:18.55\00:52:23.18 The New International version 224 times, 00:52:23.21\00:52:27.04 the New King James Version 223 times, 00:52:27.07\00:52:30.93 the Revised Standard Version, New Revised Standard 146 times, 00:52:30.96\00:52:36.53 the New American Standard, 202 times, 00:52:36.56\00:52:39.23 the New Living Translation 205 times 00:52:39.26\00:52:42.00 and the God's Word translation 254 times. 00:52:42.03\00:52:46.52 Here's my point, not that some had more than the others 00:52:46.55\00:52:49.54 but the fact of the matters is 00:52:49.57\00:52:50.81 they all have the word truth in there. 00:52:50.84\00:52:53.27 Whether it's little as 146 or as much as 254 times, 00:52:53.30\00:52:57.75 the word truth is still there. 00:52:57.78\00:53:00.85 So is truth relevant is the great question we asked today. 00:53:00.88\00:53:05.21 How important it is for us accept to truth. 00:53:05.24\00:53:08.49 I mean what do you think? 00:53:08.52\00:53:10.65 It's a matter of being saved or lost. 00:53:10.68\00:53:13.95 I mean it really is that important. 00:53:13.98\00:53:16.28 You know, if I were to be stung 00:53:16.31\00:53:21.48 or bitten by a snake, 00:53:21.51\00:53:24.65 or if I already have something that would happen to me 00:53:24.68\00:53:26.61 medically that was life or death. 00:53:26.64\00:53:28.54 Would it be important for me to know the treatment 00:53:28.57\00:53:32.59 for that condition? 00:53:32.62\00:53:35.24 Above most importance. 00:53:35.27\00:53:37.08 And if I didn't follow the specific designs 00:53:37.11\00:53:39.70 or a specific treatment 00:53:39.73\00:53:40.95 for curing me of what just happened, 00:53:40.98\00:53:43.33 that condition, I would either die. 00:53:43.36\00:53:47.72 Well, I would die or be severely injured for life. 00:53:47.75\00:53:51.86 It is so essential, it would be 00:53:51.89\00:53:53.31 so essential for me to know what the treatment is 00:53:53.34\00:53:55.46 for what just happened to me. Yes. 00:53:55.49\00:53:58.13 And so the question is, 00:53:58.16\00:53:59.52 you know, do we know is the truth 00:53:59.55\00:54:03.27 that God's word tells us about our condition of sin 00:54:03.30\00:54:07.80 is the truth important 00:54:07.83\00:54:09.66 in getting us out of that condition. 00:54:09.69\00:54:12.85 Or do we really believe that we can claim Jesus as our Savior 00:54:12.88\00:54:18.47 that we can talk about Him as Lord, 00:54:18.50\00:54:20.58 that we can take His name on upon ourselves, 00:54:20.61\00:54:23.26 calling ourselves Christians 00:54:23.29\00:54:24.93 and not follow His prescription, 00:54:24.96\00:54:27.84 His antidote for sin. It's not possible. 00:54:27.87\00:54:30.75 As a matter of fact, you can't even include 00:54:30.78\00:54:32.87 the Holy Spirit in that scenario 00:54:32.90\00:54:34.30 because some people say well, 00:54:34.33\00:54:36.27 the Spirit is working in my life, 00:54:36.30\00:54:37.60 well, how could you say 00:54:37.63\00:54:38.66 the Holy Spirit is working in your life, 00:54:38.69\00:54:41.41 but you continually reject the truth. 00:54:41.44\00:54:44.72 Well, we have to ask ourselves the questions. 00:54:44.75\00:54:47.08 Are we submitting to the work of the Holy Spirit? 00:54:47.11\00:54:49.75 Here's the text that I want you to remember. 00:54:49.78\00:54:51.77 John 16:13, our reference number 30 there. 00:54:51.80\00:54:54.22 It says, "However when he, the Spirit of truth, 00:54:54.25\00:55:00.69 has come, he will guide you into all truth.' 00:55:00.72\00:55:04.87 Notice he doesn't guide into some truth? 00:55:04.90\00:55:06.84 So the question is, are there 00:55:06.87\00:55:08.93 relevant truths or irrelevant truths. 00:55:08.96\00:55:11.02 Well, according to the work of the Holy Spirit, 00:55:11.05\00:55:12.55 there is no such division. Right. 00:55:12.58\00:55:14.96 Now, I got to say this here 00:55:14.99\00:55:16.02 because I don't know the Holy Spirit 00:55:16.05\00:55:17.08 I think is impressing me do it. 00:55:17.11\00:55:18.27 But, you know, many read these texts about the truth, 00:55:18.30\00:55:22.11 and they interpret them this way, John. 00:55:22.14\00:55:25.33 Those that are not following the truth are the heathen. 00:55:25.36\00:55:29.11 And those that are in Christ that name Jesus as their Savior, 00:55:29.14\00:55:32.64 that have accepted Christ as their Savior 00:55:32.67\00:55:34.55 are those living in the truth. 00:55:34.58\00:55:36.37 And they boil down truth as simply, 00:55:36.40\00:55:39.59 have you accepted Jesus 00:55:39.62\00:55:41.30 or are you still a heathen out in the world or an atheist, 00:55:41.33\00:55:44.39 or someone that is not accepting Jesus. 00:55:44.42\00:55:46.37 And that's the truth, that's the clear cut thing, 00:55:46.40\00:55:50.02 that's how they interpret it. 00:55:50.05\00:55:52.22 We read these passages 00:55:52.25\00:55:53.82 because you know what the context is. 00:55:53.85\00:55:56.95 Here's the context, 00:55:56.98\00:55:58.01 let me read this to you. Go for it. 00:55:58.04\00:56:00.24 I want to get heated up here, I don't have time to finish it 00:56:00.27\00:56:02.15 but Jude, turn with me to Jude. Okay. 00:56:02.18\00:56:05.28 One chapter in Jude. I am going to read this for you. 00:56:05.31\00:56:08.87 Verse 3 and 4, 00:56:08.90\00:56:11.49 "Beloved, while I was very diligent 00:56:11.52\00:56:13.10 to write to you concerning our common salvation, 00:56:13.13\00:56:15.67 I found it necessary to write to you, 00:56:15.70\00:56:17.18 exhorting to contend earnestly for the faith 00:56:17.21\00:56:21.01 which was once for all delivered to the saints." 00:56:21.04\00:56:24.13 So who is he talking to? The saints. Look at this. 00:56:24.16\00:56:27.69 "For certain men have crept in unnoticed, 00:56:27.72\00:56:32.25 who long ago were marked out for this condemnation." 00:56:32.28\00:56:34.82 In other words they were chosen by the enemies souls 00:56:34.85\00:56:37.11 to come in and to do some damage. 00:56:37.14\00:56:38.75 That's the good point. 00:56:38.78\00:56:40.78 "Who were marked out for this condemnation, 00:56:40.81\00:56:42.46 ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness. " 00:56:42.49\00:56:46.69 Or another translation says, 00:56:46.72\00:56:47.85 a license for immorality. That's right. 00:56:47.88\00:56:50.30 "And deny the Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ." 00:56:50.33\00:56:54.43 In another words, they're in the church 00:56:54.46\00:56:56.21 they're preaching the grace of God 00:56:56.24\00:56:58.06 but they're turning it into the license for sin, 00:56:58.09\00:57:00.20 a license to disobey God's word 00:57:00.23\00:57:02.70 and what's happening they are denying Jesus in the process. 00:57:02.73\00:57:06.57 That's right, you know, friends, 00:57:06.60\00:57:08.08 I want you to think about what he said 00:57:08.11\00:57:09.56 and rewind that later on but 3 John 1:4 Jesus says, 00:57:09.59\00:57:12.65 "I have no greater joy 00:57:12.68\00:57:14.99 than to hear that my children walk in truth." 00:57:15.02\00:57:18.82 Don't cheap in God's grace 00:57:18.85\00:57:20.59 by saying it does not include the truth. 00:57:20.62\00:57:22.34 Thank you so much for that reference, John. 00:57:22.37\00:57:24.34 The grace of God always includes the truth of Jesus Christ. 00:57:24.37\00:57:27.58 And the only way you'll know that 00:57:27.61\00:57:28.65 is by giving your life to Him 00:57:28.68\00:57:30.59 and the best time to start is today. 00:57:30.62\00:57:33.10 May God continue to bless you. 00:57:33.13\00:57:35.06