Hello, friends, grab your Bible and a friend 00:00:01.06\00:00:02.68 and sit back as we explore God's word together 00:00:02.71\00:00:05.16 on this edition of "House Calls." 00:00:05.19\00:00:07.89 Friends, welcome to the most exciting 00:00:22.59\00:00:24.41 program in the world, "House Calls." 00:00:24.44\00:00:26.29 And you know why, because we are living in a world 00:00:26.32\00:00:29.23 where the Bible needs to be talked about 00:00:29.26\00:00:31.19 and it's happening here, so welcome. 00:00:31.22\00:00:33.26 My name is John Lomacang, and I have my buddy 00:00:33.29\00:00:35.32 in the studio with me, Pastor John Stanton. 00:00:35.35\00:00:37.55 Good to have you here stretch. 00:00:37.58\00:00:38.61 John, it's good to be here again for another exciting program. 00:00:38.64\00:00:41.21 I'm excited about this program, 00:00:41.24\00:00:42.48 some hot button issues coming up. 00:00:42.51\00:00:44.00 That's right, that's right. 00:00:44.03\00:00:45.13 You know, we like to talk about things 00:00:45.16\00:00:46.39 that are interesting to you 00:00:46.42\00:00:48.27 and many have fed us emails 00:00:48.30\00:00:50.76 about how important it is to get back to the truth and so. 00:00:50.79\00:00:53.62 One of the topics we're gonna be talking about today 00:00:53.65\00:00:55.59 is entitled "To tell the truth." 00:00:55.62\00:00:57.72 What does it mean to tell the truth? 00:00:57.75\00:01:00.45 But before we do any of that, 00:01:00.48\00:01:02.10 we want to go to the Lord in prayer. 00:01:02.13\00:01:03.65 So, John, let's have a prayer together. 00:01:03.68\00:01:05.68 Our Father in heaven, we're so thankful again 00:01:05.71\00:01:07.65 to be able to come before Your throne 00:01:07.68\00:01:09.30 and seek wisdom and strength and knowledge. 00:01:09.33\00:01:11.35 And we just pray that You will send us Your Holy Spirit 00:01:11.38\00:01:14.15 to lead and guide us through our study, 00:01:14.18\00:01:15.62 bless everyone who joins us for this program as well. 00:01:15.65\00:01:18.80 May we draw closer to You because we know more about You 00:01:18.83\00:01:21.57 and Your plan for our lives, in Jesus' name, amen. Amen. 00:01:21.60\00:01:25.46 And friends, as you know 00:01:25.49\00:01:26.74 you Bible questions are big part of this program. 00:01:26.77\00:01:29.54 And many of you are very faithful. 00:01:29.57\00:01:31.11 Some of you are just like clockwork, 00:01:31.14\00:01:33.09 we can count on your emails coming through 00:01:33.12\00:01:34.80 and all the Bible questions. 00:01:34.83\00:01:36.24 Some of you send us snail mail 00:01:36.27\00:01:38.72 that is by the post office that stamped. 00:01:38.75\00:01:41.36 And some of you really enjoy doing that 00:01:41.39\00:01:43.18 and there are those of you who don't have typewriters 00:01:43.21\00:01:45.01 and we appreciate that too. 00:01:45.04\00:01:46.26 So today we're gonna begin our program 00:01:46.29\00:01:48.21 by entertaining your questions and if you have any of them, 00:01:48.24\00:01:51.66 you can send those to housecalls@3abn.org, 00:01:51.69\00:01:55.23 that's housecalls@3abn.org. 00:01:55.26\00:01:58.11 We download those questions and try our best 00:01:58.14\00:02:01.03 to go to God's word and answer them for you. 00:02:01.06\00:02:03.08 And if it's our opinion, 00:02:03.11\00:02:05.27 we're going to say it's our opinion. 00:02:05.30\00:02:06.95 But we'd like to stick to the word of God. 00:02:06.98\00:02:08.92 Today let's start with our first question. 00:02:08.95\00:02:11.31 John, what do you have for us? 00:02:11.34\00:02:12.93 I've got a question with regard to the Old Testament and-- 00:02:12.96\00:02:18.16 yeah, it's a New Testament word actually, 00:02:18.19\00:02:19.67 but with regard to Abraham and his ancestry. Okay. 00:02:19.70\00:02:25.63 And not only where is he from, but who he was 00:02:25.66\00:02:29.00 and it says here, the question specifically says, 00:02:29.03\00:02:31.74 "On the show you mentioned that Abraham was not a Jew 00:02:31.77\00:02:34.24 and that he was a Chaldean. 00:02:34.27\00:02:36.38 I'm a Seventh-day Adventist 00:02:36.41\00:02:37.63 and I'm confused about what you said 00:02:37.66\00:02:40.42 so would you please explain it further. 00:02:40.45\00:02:43.58 And if this is true where did the first Jew 00:02:43.61\00:02:45.48 come on the scene from, was it Jacob?" 00:02:45.51\00:02:49.39 And there is actually good guess. Okay. 00:02:49.42\00:02:51.62 But let's talk about here Abraham first. 00:02:51.65\00:02:54.63 We find that in Genesis 11:31, it says this in regard 00:02:54.66\00:03:00.15 to Abraham and his father and his-- 00:03:00.18\00:03:05.11 I believe his-- yeah, his father here. 00:03:05.14\00:03:07.06 It says, "And Terah took his son Abram and his grandson Lot, 00:03:07.09\00:03:11.92 the son of Haran, and his daughter-in-law Sarah, 00:03:11.95\00:03:15.61 or actually Sarai at the time. 00:03:15.64\00:03:17.82 his son Abram's wife, and they went out with them 00:03:17.85\00:03:21.27 from Ur of the Chaldeans to go to the land of Canaan." 00:03:21.30\00:03:25.87 So here we find that his family was from Ur, John, 00:03:25.90\00:03:31.04 which was part of the land of the Chaldeans. 00:03:31.07\00:03:33.35 So he was Chaldean so to speak. 00:03:33.38\00:03:35.63 Now that's why we said that Abraham was not a Jew. 00:03:35.66\00:03:40.47 Now specifically with regard to the word Jew, 00:03:40.50\00:03:43.67 that wasn't really applied to God's people 00:03:43.70\00:03:46.44 until after the divided kingdom following Solomon's reign 00:03:46.47\00:03:50.72 we had Solomon's son and then of course 00:03:50.75\00:03:53.08 he rebelled against the Lord 00:03:53.11\00:03:54.37 and that's where Jeroboam came into play 00:03:54.40\00:03:56.68 to take Israel, the northern kingdom 00:03:56.71\00:03:59.40 which had 10 of the 12 tribes 00:03:59.43\00:04:02.12 and as that divided eventually over time. 00:04:02.15\00:04:05.04 We know that the northern kingdom 00:04:05.07\00:04:06.34 was besieged and taken over by Assyria. 00:04:06.37\00:04:09.91 They were scattered and then the southern kingdom of Judah 00:04:09.94\00:04:13.56 which had grown was taken captive and brought to Babylon. 00:04:13.59\00:04:16.98 After seven years plus they return to Jerusalem 00:04:17.01\00:04:20.23 to rebuild the city, to rebuild the temple. 00:04:20.26\00:04:22.14 And then from that point on, we get into the segment between 00:04:22.17\00:04:25.79 kind of the Old Testament and New Testament 00:04:25.82\00:04:28.61 and by the time we get to the New Testament 00:04:28.64\00:04:30.66 writings of Jesus' first advent, 00:04:30.69\00:04:32.53 they were referred to as Jews which was short for Judah. 00:04:32.56\00:04:37.24 So that's where the word Jews comes from. 00:04:37.27\00:04:39.59 Now if you go back far enough 00:04:39.62\00:04:40.96 although the word Jew wasn't part of Israel at the time. 00:04:40.99\00:04:45.89 The word Israel itself was applied to Jacob the first time. 00:04:45.92\00:04:50.10 And so that was a good guess 00:04:50.13\00:04:52.24 as far as where these names go back, 00:04:52.27\00:04:54.13 how far they go back to. 00:04:54.16\00:04:55.80 But Jacob who was the son of Isaac 00:04:55.83\00:04:59.84 was first known with his new name 00:04:59.87\00:05:03.26 after wrestling with God that night where he wrestle with Him 00:05:03.29\00:05:06.49 and he didn't concur but he struggled, 00:05:06.52\00:05:10.40 he wrestle with God and he overcame or at least he-- 00:05:10.43\00:05:13.82 what's the word I'm looking for it talks about, 00:05:13.85\00:05:15.89 he was an overcomer. He prevailed. 00:05:15.92\00:05:17.08 He prevailed to receive the blessing from the Lord 00:05:17.11\00:05:20.68 and from that point on, God called him Israel, 00:05:20.71\00:05:23.06 your name should be called Israel. 00:05:23.09\00:05:25.06 And so that's where Israel which apply to both kingdoms, 00:05:25.09\00:05:28.58 both the north and the south 00:05:28.61\00:05:29.64 even though they were divided came from. 00:05:29.67\00:05:32.03 So that little history 00:05:32.06\00:05:33.09 into where these names come from in the Bible. 00:05:33.12\00:05:36.56 That was good, that was good that you walked us through that. 00:05:36.59\00:05:39.52 Glad that you hit the record button to follow that. 00:05:39.55\00:05:41.82 You could rewind that later on 00:05:41.85\00:05:42.94 and look at the history that John just laid out for us. 00:05:42.97\00:05:45.71 It's important to know why we are where we are today 00:05:45.74\00:05:49.30 and what we believe and how God led 00:05:49.33\00:05:51.82 in the choosing of a special people. 00:05:51.85\00:05:55.16 They were special not because they had a different blood type 00:05:55.19\00:05:58.20 or because their DNA-- let me not use that phrase 00:05:58.23\00:06:01.49 or that word but because their nationality. 00:06:01.52\00:06:04.66 They were not special because of nationality. 00:06:04.69\00:06:06.37 They were special because 00:06:06.40\00:06:07.43 they were chosen by God for a particular purpose. 00:06:07.46\00:06:11.35 And so you find in and believe its Romans 9:6 where it says, 00:06:11.38\00:06:17.82 "They that are of Israel are not all Israel." 00:06:17.85\00:06:22.50 And so you clearly see that 00:06:22.53\00:06:24.42 it is not so much our physical birth 00:06:24.45\00:06:27.23 but it's our spiritual birth that makes the difference 00:06:27.26\00:06:29.26 and that was very important. 00:06:29.29\00:06:30.78 But something aside to add about where Abraham is from. 00:06:30.81\00:06:33.83 And by the way the name Abram, you know, 00:06:33.86\00:06:36.09 when the promise that God had made with him was covenanted, 00:06:36.12\00:06:39.16 He called him Abraham now which is a beautiful thing 00:06:39.19\00:06:42.49 and changed Sarah's name from Sarai to Sarah 00:06:42.52\00:06:45.50 showing that the covenant that He had made with them 00:06:45.53\00:06:47.86 had now have been enforce. 00:06:47.89\00:06:49.60 And what a beautiful covenant to say 00:06:49.63\00:06:51.15 to a couple that don't have any children at all. 00:06:51.18\00:06:54.69 He said one day your seed would be like the stars of the sky. 00:06:54.72\00:06:59.34 That's an amazing thing and God did fulfill that promise. 00:06:59.37\00:07:02.59 But in Genesis 15:7 the Lord even confirms 00:07:02.62\00:07:06.61 what you just read 00:07:06.64\00:07:09.09 "Then He said to him" that is the Lord said to Abraham. 00:07:09.12\00:07:13.25 "I am the Lord, who brought you out of Ur of the Chaldeans, 00:07:13.28\00:07:17.55 to give you this land to inherit it." 00:07:17.58\00:07:20.24 And if you look at where Ur was, Ur was in southern Babylon. 00:07:20.27\00:07:24.32 So years ago I've said that Abraham was Babylonian 00:07:24.35\00:07:27.27 and by birth and nationality, yes he was 00:07:27.30\00:07:30.38 because Ur was the southern providence 00:07:30.41\00:07:32.32 of the Babylonian empire. 00:07:32.35\00:07:35.16 So here's the beautiful thing about that. 00:07:35.19\00:07:37.05 The Lord can take somebody from Babylon 00:07:37.08\00:07:39.77 and give him the inheritance of the kingdom of God. 00:07:39.80\00:07:42.26 Amazing, and look at this, look at the parallel. 00:07:42.29\00:07:44.77 In the last days, the Lord is gonna call people out of Babylon 00:07:44.80\00:07:48.60 and then give them the designation of His chosen people 00:07:48.63\00:07:53.40 come out of her my people. 00:07:53.43\00:07:54.69 He did that to Abraham and his wife. 00:07:54.72\00:07:57.09 And He's gonna do that in the last days also again. 00:07:57.12\00:07:58.82 You know, the interesting thing to you that we talked about here 00:07:58.85\00:08:02.41 how Israel is about prevailing, it's about, you know, 00:08:02.44\00:08:05.94 wrestling with God and staying and clinging 00:08:05.97\00:08:07.84 and staying close overcoming. 00:08:07.87\00:08:09.64 You know, we talk about faith being the victory 00:08:09.67\00:08:12.82 that we have 'cause it's all by faith. 00:08:12.85\00:08:14.96 By faith we cling to God, by faith we overcome, 00:08:14.99\00:08:17.19 by faith we prevailed because it's His strength. 00:08:17.22\00:08:19.25 And so when it says there 00:08:19.28\00:08:22.46 that all Israel or Israel is not all Israel. 00:08:22.49\00:08:27.02 Really what we're talking about that word Israel 00:08:27.05\00:08:28.98 is an issue of faith when you get to the New Testament. 00:08:29.01\00:08:32.81 So those Paul says, "Who are by faith are Israel." 00:08:32.84\00:08:36.20 Right. And so the real issue is not 00:08:36.23\00:08:38.93 whether or not you're descendants as a race of Abraham 00:08:38.96\00:08:42.23 which was a big issue for the Pharisees, 00:08:42.26\00:08:44.49 Sadducees at that time. 00:08:44.52\00:08:46.06 The issue was whether you are not gonna-- 00:08:46.09\00:08:47.49 you put your faith in Jesus Christ 00:08:47.52\00:08:49.70 and you're gonna becoming overcomer through Him. 00:08:49.73\00:08:52.39 And so that's why we have said several times 00:08:52.42\00:08:54.26 that we do not believe in some kind of a dual covenant here 00:08:54.29\00:08:57.78 where Israel as a nation has a covenant with God still 00:08:57.81\00:09:01.13 and now Israel, the church has a covenant with God. 00:09:01.16\00:09:04.21 But there is only been one everlasting covenant. 00:09:04.24\00:09:07.05 It was first came through Abraham and then came through-- 00:09:07.08\00:09:10.48 it was reiterated actually through Abraham 00:09:10.51\00:09:11.95 'cause he had a covenant with Noah too. 00:09:11.98\00:09:14.05 But then he came down through them until the time of Christ 00:09:14.08\00:09:18.72 which was a probationary period for the nation of Israel 00:09:18.75\00:09:22.17 and then afterwards was given to the church. 00:09:22.20\00:09:24.85 So that's why we say several times, 00:09:24.88\00:09:26.65 you will hear us say that church, 00:09:26.68\00:09:28.15 the church of Christ today is Israel, spiritual Israel. 00:09:28.18\00:09:33.02 But in the sense it's always been 00:09:33.05\00:09:34.35 a spiritual application that word, hasn't it? Right. 00:09:34.38\00:09:37.17 Those who are of Christ's are Abraham's seed 00:09:37.20\00:09:41.42 and heir according to the promise. 00:09:41.45\00:09:43.41 So it's always been spiritual designation. 00:09:43.44\00:09:45.18 We know that a salvation is not a first birth, 00:09:45.21\00:09:48.38 it's always the second birth, it's a new birth. 00:09:48.41\00:09:50.77 And anyone whose is the part 00:09:50.80\00:09:51.84 of the new birth is in fact spiritual Israel 00:09:51.87\00:09:54.95 that's what the Lord makes it very, very clear. 00:09:54.98\00:09:56.73 So when you get down to Revelation, John, 00:09:56.76\00:09:58.03 and this is something that 00:09:58.06\00:09:59.12 you and I both really enjoy studying. 00:09:59.15\00:10:01.97 Revelation is a spiritual book for a spiritual people. 00:10:02.00\00:10:05.90 It's not a book designated for just one particular race 00:10:05.93\00:10:10.02 but in fact a book for a spiritual people, 00:10:10.05\00:10:12.93 calling them out of darkness into this marvelous life. 00:10:12.96\00:10:15.71 And you know the Apostle Paul does a wonderful job about that. 00:10:15.74\00:10:18.89 He says, at one time we were not a people 00:10:18.92\00:10:22.57 but now we are a people. 00:10:22.60\00:10:24.88 And so that's the beautiful thing. 00:10:24.91\00:10:26.77 The Lord can extend an invitation 00:10:26.80\00:10:28.93 to somebody who is not His 00:10:28.96\00:10:30.93 but then by accepting the invitation, they become His. 00:10:30.96\00:10:35.21 But thank you very much. 00:10:35.24\00:10:36.51 And our last text to that Nehemiah 9:7 00:10:36.54\00:10:41.24 once again the Bible says 00:10:41.27\00:10:43.52 confirming what you just pointed out about Abraham. 00:10:43.55\00:10:46.49 "You are the Lord God, who chose Abram, 00:10:46.52\00:10:51.04 and brought him out of Ur of the Chaldeans, 00:10:51.07\00:10:53.98 and gave him the name Abraham." 00:10:54.01\00:10:57.31 You see, so that's showing the transition 00:10:57.34\00:10:59.56 and then it says "You found his heart faithful before you, 00:10:59.59\00:11:03.53 and made a covenant with him 00:11:03.56\00:11:05.46 to give him the land of the Canaanites, the Hittites, 00:11:05.49\00:11:07.54 the Amorites, the Perizzites, 00:11:07.57\00:11:08.68 the Jebusites, and the Girgashites 00:11:08.71\00:11:11.35 and to give it to his descendants." 00:11:11.38\00:11:13.32 And so you clearly see that 00:11:13.35\00:11:14.40 the promise that God made to Abraham 00:11:14.43\00:11:16.08 at that point was when his name changed 00:11:16.11\00:11:18.40 and it wasn't the same thing with his son Jacob. 00:11:18.43\00:11:21.29 He went from Jacob to Israel. Yeah, that's right. 00:11:21.32\00:11:25.50 When God makes a covenant 00:11:25.53\00:11:26.84 and friends, look at that whole thing, 00:11:26.87\00:11:28.29 when we get to heaven we're gonna have a new name. 00:11:28.32\00:11:31.33 There's another topic all together. 00:11:31.36\00:11:33.38 It's not gonna be our name, 00:11:33.41\00:11:34.85 His name is gonna be on our foreheads, 00:11:34.88\00:11:37.45 that's the new name since God is above. 00:11:37.48\00:11:39.44 And we thank you for that question. 00:11:39.47\00:11:41.40 Here's another one. 00:11:41.43\00:11:44.59 Dear John, it could be anyone of us. 00:11:44.62\00:11:47.28 Thank you so much. 00:11:47.31\00:11:48.76 Please help me out with Revelation 14:4. 00:11:48.79\00:11:52.76 Go with us to Revelation 14:4 00:11:52.79\00:11:54.59 and by the way that is the second place in Revelation 00:11:54.62\00:11:57.90 or the second place in the Bible 00:11:57.93\00:11:59.15 you find that 144,000 talked about. 00:11:59.18\00:12:01.86 The first place in Revelation 7 00:12:01.89\00:12:03.93 the choosing and the sealing of the 144,000. 00:12:03.96\00:12:06.69 And then Revelation 14, the message of the 144,000. 00:12:06.72\00:12:11.83 A lot of times we take them out of the equation, 00:12:11.86\00:12:14.12 but before you find the first, second, 00:12:14.15\00:12:16.18 and third Angel's message you find the 144,000. 00:12:16.21\00:12:20.19 Those who are going to proclaim this message, 00:12:20.22\00:12:23.68 very exclusive message. 00:12:23.71\00:12:25.52 The message is exclusive for the carriers, 00:12:25.55\00:12:28.55 but it's inclusive for the world. 00:12:28.58\00:12:31.34 Revelation 14:4 describes who the 144,000 are. 00:12:31.37\00:12:36.64 "These are the ones who were not defiled with women, 00:12:36.67\00:12:42.17 for they are virgins. 00:12:42.20\00:12:44.94 These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. 00:12:44.97\00:12:51.71 These were redeemed from among men, 00:12:51.74\00:12:54.16 being first fruits to God and to the Lamb." 00:12:54.19\00:12:58.25 Now that's a big passage and there are a lot of points 00:12:58.28\00:13:01.04 that were brought on that passage. 00:13:01.07\00:13:02.21 One of the first one it says, 00:13:02.24\00:13:03.52 "These are the ones who were not defiled with women." 00:13:03.55\00:13:07.44 Well, we know in prophecy 00:13:07.47\00:13:08.63 that when the Bible uses the phrase woman 00:13:08.66\00:13:11.31 or the word woman it designates to church. 00:13:11.34\00:13:14.71 And so clearly if I would begin with the beginning 00:13:14.74\00:13:18.77 it says for they are virgins meaning pure. 00:13:18.80\00:13:21.88 They were not defiled by the teachings of other churches. 00:13:21.91\00:13:27.24 Matter of fact go with us to Revelation 17. 00:13:27.27\00:13:29.27 I want you to see something here because in Revelation 17, 00:13:29.30\00:13:34.63 you find a condition but you find another woman 00:13:34.66\00:13:38.94 that's not described as pure. 00:13:38.97\00:13:41.58 As a matter of fact, she is anything but pure. 00:13:41.61\00:13:44.55 Revelation 17:1. 00:13:44.58\00:13:46.84 Why don't you read that for us, John? 00:13:46.87\00:13:48.24 Revelation 17:1. 00:13:48.27\00:13:51.75 "One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls 00:13:51.78\00:13:54.19 came and talked with me, 00:13:54.22\00:13:55.81 saying, 'Come, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot 00:13:55.84\00:13:58.82 who sits on many waters.'" 00:13:58.85\00:14:00.38 And look at verse 4. 00:14:00.41\00:14:03.60 "The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, 00:14:03.63\00:14:06.56 and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, 00:14:06.59\00:14:09.85 having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations 00:14:09.88\00:14:13.06 and the filthiness of her fornication." 00:14:13.09\00:14:15.37 And just add verse 5 there. 00:14:15.40\00:14:16.82 "And on her forehead a name was written, 00:14:16.85\00:14:20.06 Mystery, Babylon the great, the mother of harlots 00:14:20.09\00:14:23.01 and the abominations of the earth." 00:14:23.04\00:14:25.81 Okay, now notice something. 00:14:25.84\00:14:27.31 In Revelation 14, it says, 00:14:27.34\00:14:28.92 these were not defiled with women, for they are virgins. 00:14:28.95\00:14:32.65 But you go to Revelation 17 you clearly see a different 00:14:32.68\00:14:35.23 system altogether talked about, 00:14:35.26\00:14:37.09 a system of complete defilement. 00:14:37.12\00:14:40.43 She is referred to as a great harlot, 00:14:40.46\00:14:43.20 not just a harlot, a great harlot. 00:14:43.23\00:14:45.46 She is referred to as the mother of harlots 00:14:45.49\00:14:50.04 and abominations of the earth, 00:14:50.07\00:14:52.00 so if you partake of what she is selling, 00:14:52.03\00:14:55.09 you will definitely be defiled. 00:14:55.12\00:14:56.76 As a matter of fact, verse 6 talks about-- 00:14:56.79\00:15:00.25 matter of fact, verse 2. Sorry before verse 6. 00:15:00.28\00:15:03.01 Verse 2 says, "With whom 00:15:03.04\00:15:05.19 the kings of the earth were made drunk 00:15:05.22\00:15:09.55 with the wine of her fornication. 00:15:09.58\00:15:12.70 The kings of the earth committed fornication, 00:15:12.73\00:15:14.98 and the inhabitants of the earth 00:15:15.01\00:15:16.50 were made drunk with the wine of her fornication." 00:15:16.53\00:15:19.06 So you clearly see 00:15:19.09\00:15:20.69 the inhabitance of the earth may drunk, 00:15:20.72\00:15:22.65 the kings committed fornication, they were not clean, 00:15:22.68\00:15:26.40 they were defiled, so the contrast is 00:15:26.43\00:15:29.81 Revelation is talking about a people that are not defiled, 00:15:29.84\00:15:32.78 a people that are not polluted, 00:15:32.81\00:15:35.49 a people that are true to the Lord God 00:15:35.52\00:15:38.24 as the woman described in Revelation 12. 00:15:38.27\00:15:41.27 Look at that with us. 00:15:41.30\00:15:43.59 That woman was not decked with gold 00:15:43.62\00:15:47.08 and precious stones and pearls. 00:15:47.11\00:15:48.94 And by the way, John, I want to add this. 00:15:48.97\00:15:52.05 The woman of Revelation 17 had on purple and red. 00:15:52.08\00:15:57.59 It's nothing wrong with the color purple and red. 00:15:57.62\00:15:59.48 The question is what didn't she have on. 00:15:59.51\00:16:02.36 She didn't have on the color of blue. 00:16:02.39\00:16:05.15 And the color blue is the color that's symbolic 00:16:05.18\00:16:07.42 with the commandments of God. 00:16:07.45\00:16:09.77 So you see that in this system of worship 00:16:09.80\00:16:12.68 the commandments of God were omitted 00:16:12.71\00:16:14.40 or most specifically were changed, 00:16:14.43\00:16:19.01 were diverted, were broken down 00:16:19.04\00:16:22.54 as the word I used just a moment ago 00:16:22.57\00:16:25.21 polluted or diluted, 00:16:25.24\00:16:27.94 that's the word I'm looking for. 00:16:27.97\00:16:29.63 But look at Revelation 12:1. The contrast is amazing. 00:16:29.66\00:16:34.27 "Now a great sign appeared in heaven, 00:16:34.30\00:16:37.13 a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, 00:16:37.16\00:16:42.00 and on her head a garland or crown of twelve stars." 00:16:42.03\00:16:47.67 And when you look at that whole parallel, 00:16:47.70\00:16:50.22 you begin to see that the reason why this woman 00:16:50.25\00:16:52.11 is the one that's designated is pure, 00:16:52.14\00:16:54.45 is this is the one that Satan is upset with. 00:16:54.48\00:16:56.77 And by the way you can guarantee that 00:16:56.80\00:16:58.32 if the devil is upset with you, you're doing something right. 00:16:58.35\00:17:01.35 Read for us, John, Revelation 12:17. 00:17:01.38\00:17:04.57 Notice how angry the devil is 00:17:04.60\00:17:06.58 and what his attitude toward this woman is. 00:17:06.61\00:17:09.91 "And the dragon was enraged with the woman, 00:17:09.94\00:17:12.42 and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring." 00:17:12.45\00:17:16.42 King James Version says, remnant there which is a key word. 00:17:16.45\00:17:20.03 "Who keep the commandments of God 00:17:20.06\00:17:21.85 and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." 00:17:21.88\00:17:24.85 So you see there, that woman 00:17:24.88\00:17:26.64 is a woman that's associated with 00:17:26.67\00:17:28.91 keeping the commandments of God and the devil is upset. 00:17:28.94\00:17:32.29 She also has the testimony of Jesus Christ 00:17:32.32\00:17:34.84 which Revelation 19:10 says, 00:17:34.87\00:17:36.59 "The gift of the Spirit of Prophecy." 00:17:36.62\00:17:39.53 But let's look at the rest of the aspects of that 00:17:39.56\00:17:41.35 and you could chime in anytime you'd like in that verse. 00:17:41.38\00:17:43.65 Well, you know, I was focusing on that word remnant. 00:17:43.68\00:17:46.35 It's interesting that Babylon has a remnant. Very good point. 00:17:46.38\00:17:50.22 Because she is the mother of harlots 00:17:50.25\00:17:52.52 which means she has children. That's right. 00:17:52.55\00:17:54.67 And those children play a big part in the end times, 00:17:54.70\00:17:57.85 in last days as the Book of Revelation tells us. 00:17:57.88\00:18:00.57 The woman of Revelation 12 has a remnant. That's right. 00:18:00.60\00:18:03.70 And this is the one 00:18:03.73\00:18:04.76 that the dragon is very angry with at the end of time. 00:18:04.79\00:18:07.42 But specifically that remnant, the 144, 000 00:18:07.45\00:18:10.93 he is very angry with because they are doing the work 00:18:10.96\00:18:14.07 that God has called them to do. 00:18:14.10\00:18:16.38 And it says there in the passage we already ready in Chapter 14, 00:18:16.41\00:18:19.55 "They are firstfruits to God and to the Lamb." 00:18:19.58\00:18:23.48 Now that word firstfruits 00:18:23.51\00:18:25.06 tells us a little bit about the remnant or the 144,000 00:18:25.09\00:18:29.38 because firstfruits that were part of the culture 00:18:29.41\00:18:34.86 and part of the life of the nation of Israel 00:18:34.89\00:18:39.25 were the very firstfruit that came from the harvest 00:18:39.28\00:18:41.96 and that firstfruit was brought 00:18:41.99\00:18:44.38 and dedicated to God as an offering. 00:18:44.41\00:18:46.87 And so we see here in the remnant or the 144, 000 00:18:46.90\00:18:51.16 that they are the first ones 00:18:51.19\00:18:52.74 that are redeemed from the earth by God. 00:18:52.77\00:18:56.20 And they're redeemed for a specific purpose, all right. 00:18:56.23\00:19:00.23 That's why Revelation 7 says that they were sealed 00:19:00.26\00:19:03.65 prior to the four winds being released to blow upon the earth 00:19:03.68\00:19:08.18 which is the coming of the time of trouble. 00:19:08.21\00:19:10.48 So they were sealed, they were firstfruits, 00:19:10.51\00:19:12.65 they were prepared for a message to give to the world 00:19:12.68\00:19:17.88 during the time the four winds were released. 00:19:17.91\00:19:20.71 And for that message you just have to 00:19:20.74\00:19:22.67 read on little further in Revelation 14, 00:19:22.70\00:19:25.08 the Three Angels' messages from verse 6-11. 00:19:25.11\00:19:31.59 So anyway just to give you 00:19:31.62\00:19:32.65 a little picture of the last days. 00:19:32.68\00:19:34.20 Now if you want to see those who were not firstfruits, 00:19:34.23\00:19:37.16 who were redeemed at the end of time, 00:19:37.19\00:19:39.36 then look at the second part of Revelation 7 00:19:39.39\00:19:41.39 which is the great multitude, all right. 00:19:41.42\00:19:44.49 So all these things play a part, 00:19:44.52\00:19:46.53 they come in together here as you read the Book of Revelation. 00:19:46.56\00:19:48.92 Just want to give you those pieces to fit everything in here 00:19:48.95\00:19:51.72 as we talked about the firstfruit or the 144,000. 00:19:51.75\00:19:55.00 I'm glad you brought that up because in 1 Corinthians 15, 00:19:55.03\00:19:59.16 Paul the Apostle described Jesus 00:19:59.19\00:20:01.56 as the firstfruits of those that slept. 00:20:01.59\00:20:04.95 Meaning, He is the first one to conquer the grave, 00:20:04.98\00:20:09.06 but He is not the only one 00:20:09.09\00:20:10.30 that's going to conquer the grave. 00:20:10.33\00:20:12.04 Those of us who are laid to rest before Jesus comes, 00:20:12.07\00:20:16.67 1 Corinthians 15 is going to say when they are resurrected. 00:20:16.70\00:20:19.07 "O death, where is thy sting? 00:20:19.10\00:20:21.01 O grave, where is thy victory?" 00:20:21.04\00:20:22.81 At the resurrection they will be conquerors of death 00:20:22.84\00:20:25.26 but not on their own but through Christ. 00:20:25.29\00:20:27.59 But the harvest-- let's get back to that 00:20:27.62\00:20:29.43 because that's a very good point. 00:20:29.46\00:20:30.52 I'm glad you brought that out. 00:20:30.55\00:20:33.12 In Exodus 23:16 the Bible talks about the harvest. 00:20:33.15\00:20:37.20 And when the time of the harvest came, 00:20:37.23\00:20:39.80 the firstfruits always represented the best. 00:20:39.83\00:20:43.29 I'm going to give you the first. 00:20:43.32\00:20:45.27 When a person--that's why when we return tithes to the Lord, 00:20:45.30\00:20:49.43 it should be our firstfruits not what's left. Right, right. 00:20:49.46\00:20:52.73 You know, a lot of people 00:20:52.76\00:20:53.79 that don't give a return tithe to the Lord, they don't think 00:20:53.82\00:20:57.33 if it is the firstfruits, the first obligation. 00:20:57.36\00:21:00.08 The Lord wants our first, 00:21:00.11\00:21:01.30 because the first always represents the best. 00:21:01.33\00:21:03.26 Let me go ahead and read the text 00:21:03.29\00:21:04.32 that I was referring to in Exodus 23:16. 00:21:04.35\00:21:07.71 "And the Feast of Harvest, the firstfruits of your labors 00:21:07.74\00:21:12.61 which you have sown in the field, 00:21:12.64\00:21:14.39 and the Feast of Ingathering at the end of the year, 00:21:14.42\00:21:18.76 when you have gathered in 00:21:18.79\00:21:20.63 the fruit of your labors from the field." 00:21:20.66\00:21:24.30 And so notice the firstfruits are the fruit of the labors. 00:21:24.33\00:21:28.46 Fruit of whose labor though will be the firstfruits? 00:21:28.49\00:21:31.42 The fruits of the Lord's labor. 00:21:31.45\00:21:33.72 He says the harvest is ripe but the laborers are few. 00:21:33.75\00:21:38.22 Pray that the Lord of the harvest 00:21:38.25\00:21:39.72 will sent forth laborers into the field. 00:21:39.75\00:21:42.44 And so those who come in are the firstfruits, 00:21:42.47\00:21:45.90 those who are chosen to bringing 00:21:45.93\00:21:47.73 the rest of the harvest are the firstfruits. 00:21:47.76\00:21:50.98 Follow me carefully. 00:21:51.01\00:21:52.22 Those chosen are the firstfruits from the Lord's harvest. 00:21:52.25\00:21:56.77 But the firstfruits bring in the rest of the harvest. 00:21:56.80\00:22:00.16 You're getting my point? 00:22:00.19\00:22:01.24 The multitude that you point out 00:22:01.27\00:22:02.65 that no one could number. 00:22:02.68\00:22:03.75 Yeah, and that's why in Revelation 14 00:22:03.78\00:22:05.28 you see the structure of the 144,000 00:22:05.31\00:22:07.98 which is the first half of that chapter 00:22:08.01\00:22:10.20 and the next half of the chapter 00:22:10.23\00:22:11.62 is all about the rest of the harvest. 00:22:11.65\00:22:13.47 It says, "The grapes are now fully ripe." 00:22:13.50\00:22:16.84 Why are they ripe because the Three Angels' Messages 00:22:16.87\00:22:19.48 smacked out in the middle of it, 00:22:19.51\00:22:20.55 have already been given, 00:22:20.58\00:22:21.61 they had been accepted and they now go forward. 00:22:21.64\00:22:24.71 Now there is something that I saw several years ago, 00:22:24.74\00:22:28.03 that was really key to help me understand this little better 00:22:28.06\00:22:30.79 and that's Revelation 15. 00:22:30.82\00:22:34.27 And I'll just mention this here 00:22:34.30\00:22:35.33 just to finish up our question here, John, 00:22:35.36\00:22:37.55 that we're getting the aspects 00:22:37.58\00:22:38.68 that aren't really asked there but. 00:22:38.71\00:22:40.88 If you look here-- Revelation 15 what verse? 00:22:40.91\00:22:43.91 Revelation 15 and I'm reading from-- 00:22:43.94\00:22:48.13 let's see verse 2. All right. 00:22:48.16\00:22:51.79 It says, "I saw something 00:22:51.82\00:22:53.02 like a sea of glass mingled with fire, 00:22:53.05\00:22:56.58 and those who have had victory over the beast, 00:22:56.61\00:22:59.12 over his image and over his mark, 00:22:59.15\00:23:00.84 and over the number of his name, 00:23:00.87\00:23:02.17 standing on the sea of glass, having harps of God." 00:23:02.20\00:23:04.09 Now first of all, what does a sea represent? 00:23:04.12\00:23:07.36 Water. Right. 00:23:07.39\00:23:08.79 The great number of people, right. 00:23:08.82\00:23:10.34 And so those who have had victorious standing on the sea. 00:23:10.37\00:23:13.72 So there is a great number of people here. 00:23:13.75\00:23:15.29 and I would refer to this 00:23:15.32\00:23:16.35 as the great multitude speaking of here. 00:23:16.38\00:23:18.57 And it says, "They sing the song of Moses, 00:23:18.60\00:23:21.08 the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, 00:23:21.11\00:23:22.86 saying, "Great and marvelous are Your works, Lord God Almighty! 00:23:22.89\00:23:27.01 Just and true are Your ways, O King of saints!" 00:23:27.04\00:23:29.22 Now look at this verse 4, it's really key. 00:23:29.25\00:23:32.37 If you know anything about the Three Angels' Messages, 00:23:32.40\00:23:35.43 this should ring loud and clear. 00:23:35.46\00:23:37.04 So the 144,000 have given this message, 00:23:37.07\00:23:39.96 they've declared this message. 00:23:39.99\00:23:41.42 And the great multitude have been redeemed 00:23:41.45\00:23:44.36 because of their receiving of that truth. 00:23:44.39\00:23:47.30 Now listen to what they say. 00:23:47.33\00:23:49.19 "Who shall not fear You, O Lord God, 00:23:49.22\00:23:55.17 and glorify Your name? For You alone are holy. 00:23:55.20\00:23:59.89 For all nations shall come and worship before You, 00:23:59.92\00:24:03.64 for Your judgments have been manifested." 00:24:03.67\00:24:07.56 Now what do you think of when you see those words. 00:24:07.59\00:24:10.58 John, fear, glorify, worship, judgments? 00:24:10.61\00:24:15.16 First angel's message. The First angel's message. 00:24:15.19\00:24:17.39 Fear God, give glory to Him 00:24:17.42\00:24:19.21 for the hour of His judgment has come, worship Him. 00:24:19.24\00:24:22.33 So I would say the great multitude have got the message. 00:24:22.36\00:24:26.02 Right, they got the message. 00:24:26.05\00:24:27.08 They receive the message 00:24:27.11\00:24:28.20 and they have become part of the redeem 00:24:28.23\00:24:32.18 or they have been joined with the firstfruit of God 00:24:32.21\00:24:34.43 as the total redeemed at the end of time. 00:24:34.46\00:24:36.71 Matter of fact, Revelation 15:4 is a statement of preparation. 00:24:36.74\00:24:40.25 Now we're prepared, now we are ready. 00:24:40.28\00:24:43.43 The Lord has call those out that are going to respond to Him. 00:24:43.46\00:24:46.26 Now we are ready, go ahead and send the judgments of God. 00:24:46.29\00:24:49.85 That is go ahead and send the judgments of God 00:24:49.88\00:24:51.57 that are not mixed with God's mercy. 00:24:51.60\00:24:54.28 That's the key because there are judgments 00:24:54.31\00:24:56.07 talked about in Revelation that are mixed with God's mercy, 00:24:56.10\00:24:58.64 but when you get to the seven last plagues. 00:24:58.67\00:25:00.80 The reason why it's called seven last 00:25:00.83\00:25:03.31 is because they are unmixed with the mercy of God 00:25:03.34\00:25:06.39 and a lot of people have a hard time thinking of that 00:25:06.42\00:25:09.08 as the time where God's mercy is withdrawn. 00:25:09.11\00:25:12.23 God is never, not a merciful God 00:25:12.26\00:25:14.91 but He withdraws His mercy from the finally impenitent, 00:25:14.94\00:25:18.12 those who refuse to repent. 00:25:18.15\00:25:21.41 But God is always a merciful God. 00:25:21.44\00:25:23.34 Just that in those last judgments, 00:25:23.37\00:25:24.98 it's the consuming judgments rather than 00:25:25.01\00:25:27.74 judgments to lead men's heart to repentance. 00:25:27.77\00:25:31.26 What else is left in here in verse 4? 00:25:31.29\00:25:33.69 There is so much in just that one verse. 00:25:33.72\00:25:35.11 Thank you for the question. It's a rich question. 00:25:35.14\00:25:38.06 Of the last part it says in verse 4, 00:25:38.09\00:25:41.29 well, we've talked about redeemed, 00:25:41.32\00:25:42.63 the firstfruits and it says 00:25:42.66\00:25:44.88 they follow the Lamb wherever He goes. 00:25:44.91\00:25:47.64 You will find one of the most important things 00:25:47.67\00:25:50.25 is when they follow the Lamb wherever He goes, 00:25:50.28\00:25:53.11 the commission is, go ye therefore 00:25:53.14\00:25:56.11 and preach the gospel to every nation. 00:25:56.14\00:25:59.20 And this is the time 00:25:59.23\00:26:00.61 how wonderful it is on Revelation 14:4 00:26:00.64\00:26:03.69 that the very people that are waiting 00:26:03.72\00:26:05.47 for the message are the ones that are sent 00:26:05.50\00:26:08.30 and the Lamb is the one that sends them 00:26:08.33\00:26:10.53 and wherever the Lamb is gonna go, 00:26:10.56\00:26:12.36 they are going to go now. 00:26:12.39\00:26:14.15 I want to lean back to something here, John, 00:26:14.18\00:26:15.65 as I wrap up this question. 00:26:15.68\00:26:17.34 Many years ago there was a poem about Mary had a little Lamb. 00:26:17.37\00:26:21.43 And it says wherever Mary went, the Lamb was sure to go. 00:26:21.46\00:26:25.85 But that was a fable, that was teaching 00:26:25.88\00:26:27.69 the old adage that, you know, Mary was supreme to Christ. 00:26:27.72\00:26:32.29 But this is the proper context. 00:26:32.32\00:26:34.03 Wherever the Lamb goes, people follow Him. 00:26:34.06\00:26:37.64 Not wherever Mary goes, the Lamb follows her. 00:26:37.67\00:26:40.29 We are followers of Christ. 00:26:40.32\00:26:42.14 Christ is not the follower of Mary. 00:26:42.17\00:26:44.60 And so that's the beautiful context there. 00:26:44.63\00:26:46.33 So the point of it, winding it up. 00:26:46.36\00:26:48.39 They were not defiled pure gospel, 00:26:48.42\00:26:50.67 they follow the Lamb 00:26:50.70\00:26:51.81 wherever He sends them, wherever He leads. 00:26:51.84\00:26:54.05 And lastly, they are the firstfruits 00:26:54.08\00:26:57.07 but not the only fruits. 00:26:57.10\00:26:59.32 And in their mouths, 00:26:59.35\00:27:00.60 last part verse 5, was found no deceit." 00:27:00.63\00:27:03.38 In other words their message is true, 00:27:03.41\00:27:06.06 unadulterated and pure. 00:27:06.09\00:27:08.10 They are preaching the true and everlasting gospel 00:27:08.13\00:27:10.63 that will lead people to a knowledge of the truth. 00:27:10.66\00:27:13.14 Amen. Okay. 00:27:13.17\00:27:14.50 You know, I think that's probably all we have time for 00:27:14.53\00:27:16.79 as far as our questions today. 00:27:16.82\00:27:18.26 That's right, so if you have anymore questions. 00:27:18.29\00:27:20.32 If we've opened the door to something 00:27:20.35\00:27:21.81 that has triggered a thought or question, 00:27:21.84\00:27:24.00 send your questions to 3ABN 00:27:24.03\00:27:26.48 that is to House Calls program at housecalls@3abn.org, 00:27:26.51\00:27:30.93 that's housecalls@3abn.org. 00:27:30.96\00:27:34.20 And we would tremendously appreciate 00:27:34.23\00:27:36.18 getting a chance to respond to it. 00:27:36.21\00:27:38.10 We have some more about wine and other things 00:27:38.13\00:27:40.28 that we will entertain on a future program. 00:27:40.31\00:27:43.45 But let's dive into the topic for today. 00:27:43.48\00:27:45.35 You know, friends, this is a topic that really excites me 00:27:45.38\00:27:49.25 and I believe that, you know, John and I share, 00:27:49.28\00:27:51.72 there is a similar excitement because we are-- 00:27:51.75\00:27:54.37 what I would refer to as sentinels, 00:27:54.40\00:27:57.27 I'm gonna use that word, champions of the truth. 00:27:57.30\00:28:00.97 People who love the Lord and love even more, 00:28:01.00\00:28:04.48 proclaiming His message and His truth. 00:28:04.51\00:28:07.59 And, John, there is a growing tendency in our world today 00:28:07.62\00:28:11.70 to shy away from the word truth in Christian circles. 00:28:11.73\00:28:18.05 Some people think that the word truth is divisive, 00:28:18.08\00:28:22.13 suggesting exclusivity and leaning toward elitism. 00:28:22.16\00:28:27.96 And so nowadays when people say or when we say, 00:28:27.99\00:28:31.48 well, this is the truth about that particular topic 00:28:31.51\00:28:33.73 or this is the truth about that topic. 00:28:33.76\00:28:36.71 Sometimes people say, well, are you saying that 00:28:36.74\00:28:39.60 because we don't agree with what you teach, 00:28:39.63\00:28:41.76 that somehow we are lost 00:28:41.79\00:28:43.30 or we are wrong or we're not really Christians? 00:28:43.33\00:28:46.75 But I think that where we're headed 00:28:46.78\00:28:48.56 with this particular program is 00:28:48.59\00:28:50.55 in a world where pluralism and diversity 00:28:50.58\00:28:54.55 has taken over the landscape 00:28:54.58\00:28:57.65 and what I mean by that is some people say that 00:28:57.68\00:28:59.86 well, in the pluralistic postmodern society, 00:28:59.89\00:29:03.83 you can hear the phrases like, there's got to be 00:29:03.86\00:29:06.71 more than one interpretation of that Bible text. 00:29:06.74\00:29:09.39 And one of the ones, John, that people really fight against 00:29:09.42\00:29:11.48 is if you love me, keep my commandments. 00:29:11.51\00:29:15.25 And people say, well, there's got to be 00:29:15.28\00:29:17.17 more than one interpretation to that text. 00:29:17.20\00:29:19.93 And so in a society where pluralism has taken over 00:29:19.96\00:29:23.10 the landscape even in Christianity, 00:29:23.13\00:29:26.62 many that are highly educated 00:29:26.65\00:29:28.86 used the Bible now as a book of suggestions 00:29:28.89\00:29:31.88 rather than a book of as a guidepost 00:29:31.91\00:29:35.36 to teachings that are affirm and sure. 00:29:35.39\00:29:39.45 And so in a pluralistic society, people say, 00:29:39.48\00:29:42.45 how do you know that I'm wrong and you are right 00:29:42.48\00:29:44.47 or how do you know that I'm right and you are wrong. 00:29:44.50\00:29:47.23 See, so what makes you so different than us. 00:29:47.26\00:29:50.38 And so nowadays instead of going straight to the Bible 00:29:50.41\00:29:53.24 and say this is what it means and nothing else, 00:29:53.27\00:29:56.67 we're now living in a pluralistic society 00:29:56.70\00:29:59.08 and straight forward Bible truths 00:29:59.11\00:30:01.30 have been replaced with shades of gray. 00:30:01.33\00:30:03.95 You know, I think the other thing too is that 00:30:03.98\00:30:07.83 there is truth and then there is the way that people look at it. 00:30:07.86\00:30:12.56 And when we say that there is truth, 00:30:12.59\00:30:15.59 I think we're talking about something 00:30:15.62\00:30:17.28 that maybe is a little different than others talk about, 00:30:17.31\00:30:20.78 when they talk about truth. 00:30:20.81\00:30:21.89 And I'm not saying just John and I, 00:30:21.92\00:30:23.58 I'm just saying that those who read the word 00:30:23.61\00:30:27.62 understand truth or see the truth in a different light 00:30:27.65\00:30:30.55 because when you follow the word of God, 00:30:30.58\00:30:34.75 that is the truth, okay. That's right. 00:30:34.78\00:30:37.91 But if you're not following the word of God, 00:30:37.94\00:30:39.80 then truth is gonna be something else to you. 00:30:39.83\00:30:43.41 And the Bible says very clear 00:30:43.44\00:30:45.06 and we read this in the Gospel of John 17:17 00:30:45.09\00:30:48.25 "Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth." 00:30:48.28\00:30:54.11 Okay, pretty clear. Very straight forward. 00:30:54.14\00:30:56.13 So if John or I'm talking about truth today in this program, 00:30:56.16\00:31:01.41 what we are depending upon, 00:31:01.44\00:31:02.89 where we're standing on is not what we believe. 00:31:02.92\00:31:05.81 We're saying, this is what the word of God says. 00:31:05.84\00:31:10.14 And the word of God is truth. 00:31:10.17\00:31:12.56 So there are those out in the world say, 00:31:12.59\00:31:14.00 well, you-- that's the way that you see it 00:31:14.03\00:31:15.38 or that's the way that-- 00:31:15.41\00:31:16.47 Will, I would suggest that if someone 00:31:16.50\00:31:20.45 has another foundation of truth, 00:31:20.48\00:31:23.46 then they would come up with a different conclusion. 00:31:23.49\00:31:26.01 But what we're saying is 00:31:26.04\00:31:27.37 we're standing on the word of God 00:31:27.40\00:31:29.08 and this is what the word of God says is truth. 00:31:29.11\00:31:32.06 So, you know, we don't want to offend. 00:31:32.09\00:31:35.73 No one is looking to offend somebody by saying, 00:31:35.76\00:31:37.40 well, I'm sharing the truth with you, 00:31:37.43\00:31:38.92 I'm gonna give you what the truth is 00:31:38.95\00:31:40.85 because we're not saying it's my truth, 00:31:40.88\00:31:42.44 this isn't John's truth, this isn't my truth, 00:31:42.47\00:31:45.44 this is what God's word says is truth. 00:31:45.47\00:31:48.49 And truth also comes by a preponderance 00:31:48.52\00:31:51.27 of the evidence of all of God's word, 00:31:51.30\00:31:53.70 it's not just one text taken 00:31:53.73\00:31:56.50 the way that someone wants to read it 00:31:56.53\00:31:58.16 because if you compare that one text with just the text itself 00:31:58.19\00:32:03.45 or even yourself, it's gonna be your world view. 00:32:03.48\00:32:06.36 It's gonna be your thoughts and your truth 00:32:06.39\00:32:09.16 which where it's what the Bible calls a private interpretation. 00:32:09.19\00:32:12.18 Right, very good point. 00:32:12.21\00:32:13.24 But the truth that this is talking about 00:32:13.27\00:32:15.33 as the truth of God's word 00:32:15.36\00:32:16.45 that is more than just single text here, 00:32:16.48\00:32:18.44 it is the Bible put together in its entirety 00:32:18.47\00:32:21.17 and that's what we seek to share with you each and every week. 00:32:21.20\00:32:24.36 So I just want to qualify truth there 00:32:24.39\00:32:26.47 as we begin to talk about it today. 00:32:26.50\00:32:28.50 The other thing that, you know, 00:32:28.53\00:32:30.66 I'm using this word postmodernism and diversity 00:32:30.69\00:32:36.73 and I'll also add another word ecumenical. 00:32:36.76\00:32:40.55 There is this pushed to correlates together 00:32:40.58\00:32:42.81 into a particular thought pattern 00:32:42.84\00:32:45.09 and if you don't correlates into that thought pattern, 00:32:45.12\00:32:46.92 you are seen as an outsider-- there is even a new definition. 00:32:46.95\00:32:51.01 A few years ago the pope clearly defined, 00:32:51.04\00:32:56.72 gave a new definition for what a Christian is. 00:32:56.75\00:32:59.88 And unless you fell onto that definition, 00:32:59.91\00:33:03.34 then you are outside of the realm 00:33:03.37\00:33:05.68 of what a "Christian is." 00:33:05.71\00:33:08.53 But another word that has come to the forefront 00:33:08.56\00:33:11.17 that has been used to water down 00:33:11.20\00:33:13.84 the truth of God's word is a word relevance. 00:33:13.87\00:33:17.65 Is it relevant to our society, is it relevant to the church. 00:33:17.68\00:33:21.34 And what so deceptive about relevance is 00:33:21.37\00:33:25.00 it doesn't deny the truth, it just argues 00:33:25.03\00:33:28.41 whether or not it's relevant, 00:33:28.44\00:33:30.66 whether or not it matters anymore. 00:33:30.69\00:33:32.55 And so, you know, we have to look at that 00:33:32.58\00:33:35.01 and so you look at the two categories. 00:33:35.04\00:33:37.81 One is the attack, Satan seeks to attack something to kill it 00:33:37.84\00:33:40.93 and if he can't kill it he seeks to modify it or water it down. 00:33:40.96\00:33:45.78 And so one would be getting rid of the word truth altogether 00:33:45.81\00:33:48.97 and the other one would be, 00:33:49.00\00:33:51.46 does it really matter, is it really relevant. 00:33:51.49\00:33:54.00 And John, remember in the Book of Daniel, 00:33:54.03\00:33:56.80 one of the things that the Bible says the antichrist had done 00:33:56.83\00:34:00.00 was he cast truth to the ground, you see. 00:34:00.03\00:34:04.01 And we're living in that day and age 00:34:04.04\00:34:05.31 where truth has been cast to the ground. 00:34:05.34\00:34:08.03 And how strange it is at a time 00:34:08.06\00:34:10.00 where there seems to be more Christians 00:34:10.03\00:34:11.75 and more Bibles than ever before, 00:34:11.78\00:34:14.20 we're looking for the truth. 00:34:14.23\00:34:15.87 And so that's why the program is entitled "To tell the truth." 00:34:15.90\00:34:18.66 And lies are never--are rarely completely manufactured. 00:34:18.69\00:34:24.48 Lies are usually variance of the truth 00:34:24.51\00:34:26.58 to be a successful lie. 00:34:26.61\00:34:29.78 You know, if someone hit you with the direct question. 00:34:29.81\00:34:32.86 You know, where were you on such and such a time. 00:34:32.89\00:34:35.60 You know, the truth is you were gone. 00:34:35.63\00:34:39.38 So you can't say, I was here right under your nose. 00:34:39.41\00:34:45.30 The truth is it has to be a-- 00:34:45.33\00:34:46.81 the lie has to be adopted off of some element of truth. 00:34:46.84\00:34:49.87 I was gone but here's where I was, okay. 00:34:49.90\00:34:53.31 So when devil manufactures or puts together a lie, 00:34:53.34\00:34:56.54 he doesn't do it entirely apart from some truth. 00:34:56.57\00:35:01.80 He takes elements of truth 00:35:01.83\00:35:03.12 and then mingles the lie, his lie with it 00:35:03.15\00:35:06.36 and he distorts what is called truth to fit his pattern. 00:35:06.39\00:35:10.37 I want to read a text here just briefly 00:35:10.40\00:35:12.40 from 2 Thessalonians 2. Okay. 00:35:12.43\00:35:15.71 And some strong words about the truth 00:35:15.74\00:35:18.18 but I think it's a good one to springboard off of 00:35:18.21\00:35:20.24 because we do need to understand I believe, 00:35:20.27\00:35:22.02 the God's word tells us we need to search for 00:35:22.05\00:35:25.21 and understand the truth 00:35:25.24\00:35:26.27 because it is an issue of being saved or lost. 00:35:26.30\00:35:30.43 It can be that important. And I believe is that important. 00:35:30.46\00:35:35.48 And it says here in 2 Thessalonians 2:9. 00:35:35.51\00:35:38.31 "The coming of the lawless one 00:35:38.34\00:35:40.40 is according to the working of Satan, 00:35:40.43\00:35:41.85 with all power, signs, and--" what kind of wonders? 00:35:41.88\00:35:44.26 Lying. "Lying wonders. 00:35:44.29\00:35:47.44 And with all unrighteous deception." 00:35:47.47\00:35:50.21 Notice he's gonna deceive not only live but deceive. 00:35:50.24\00:35:53.39 "Among those who perish, 00:35:53.42\00:35:55.29 because they did not receive the love of a truth." 00:35:55.32\00:35:58.51 The truth. What? 00:35:58.54\00:36:01.08 Love of the truth. I thought it was a truth. 00:36:01.11\00:36:05.28 No, it does say the love of the truth 00:36:05.31\00:36:07.39 and so there is one truth not a truth, 00:36:07.42\00:36:10.25 but the truth that they might be what? 00:36:10.28\00:36:13.33 Saved. "Saved. 00:36:13.36\00:36:15.14 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion." 00:36:15.17\00:36:19.23 In other words they are confused about it. 00:36:19.26\00:36:20.89 "That they should believe the lie." 00:36:20.92\00:36:23.06 Notice the comparison the truth, the lie. 00:36:23.09\00:36:25.86 The lie, there is the truth and the lie, 00:36:25.89\00:36:28.22 not a truth and a lie. 00:36:28.25\00:36:30.37 This is the ultimate truth, 00:36:30.40\00:36:31.47 the ultimate lie that opposes it. 00:36:31.50\00:36:33.90 That they all maybe condemned who did not believe-- 00:36:33.93\00:36:37.63 not a truth again but the truth again. 00:36:37.66\00:36:40.85 But had pleasured in unrighteousness. 00:36:40.88\00:36:44.24 So you see, they were saved, John, 00:36:44.27\00:36:46.24 or lost because of the fact 00:36:46.27\00:36:48.71 they did not receive the truth, not a truth. 00:36:48.74\00:36:52.55 It doesn't matter that you believe something. 00:36:52.58\00:36:55.60 It matters that you believe the truth 00:36:55.63\00:36:58.31 or the right thing and that is what God's word says. 00:36:58.34\00:37:02.58 So if you say, well, no it's not how I see it. 00:37:02.61\00:37:06.63 And you oppose or have a different view of something 00:37:06.66\00:37:09.46 than someone else does, one of you is wrong. 00:37:09.49\00:37:12.89 That's right. Or maybe both. 00:37:12.92\00:37:15.30 But there is always a right and a wrong. 00:37:15.33\00:37:18.24 And I understand there is a gray area when it comes to ethics. 00:37:18.27\00:37:21.56 Okay, the application of ethics here 00:37:21.59\00:37:24.28 but we're talking about God's word does, 00:37:24.31\00:37:26.65 it is black and white, it does have truth, 00:37:26.68\00:37:28.31 it does have error and that's what I believe 00:37:28.34\00:37:30.48 Paul is talking about in his letter 00:37:30.51\00:37:32.58 to the Thessalonica Church. Right. 00:37:32.61\00:37:35.93 The other way that Satan is fighting 00:37:35.96\00:37:37.57 against truth today is couple of questions. 00:37:37.60\00:37:41.04 Does it really matter, you know, 00:37:41.07\00:37:43.48 people get down to that, "Well, does it really matter?" 00:37:43.51\00:37:45.59 And we're gonna intersperse throughout our discussion here, 00:37:45.62\00:37:48.73 some of the topics that have fallen 00:37:48.76\00:37:50.69 into the category of does it really matter. 00:37:50.72\00:37:53.50 One of those that really 00:37:53.53\00:37:56.68 is a hot button is the Sabbath truth. 00:37:56.71\00:38:00.33 Does it really matter? 00:38:00.36\00:38:02.71 I mean, you find-- if you look at the world 00:38:02.74\00:38:05.08 and the way the world has been established 00:38:05.11\00:38:07.20 in observance of a particular day, 00:38:07.23\00:38:09.54 then Sunday has risen to the forefront 00:38:09.57\00:38:11.51 kind of like somebody taken a brand new toothpaste tube 00:38:11.54\00:38:14.69 and just squeezing that whole thing, 00:38:14.72\00:38:15.99 it just, you know, it's full. 00:38:16.02\00:38:18.69 As compare to the Sabbath 00:38:18.72\00:38:20.15 is almost like a toothpaste tube with nothing left in it. 00:38:20.18\00:38:23.21 And you're trying to squeeze out and say I have toothpaste 00:38:23.24\00:38:25.55 and somebody says well, it's so little, 00:38:25.58\00:38:27.87 why even pay attention to it you got a full tube here. 00:38:27.90\00:38:31.34 And so the world is full when it comes to its adherence 00:38:31.37\00:38:34.96 and allegiance to the first day of the week. 00:38:34.99\00:38:37.91 I mean, that's the dictionary 00:38:37.94\00:38:38.97 called Sunday the first day of the week. 00:38:39.00\00:38:41.19 But a lot of people that honor the first of the week 00:38:41.22\00:38:44.78 and do so in lieu of the Sabbath 00:38:44.81\00:38:47.71 they say, "Well, does it really matter 00:38:47.74\00:38:49.81 more than a relationship with Jesus. 00:38:49.84\00:38:52.13 And so John, I mean, how do you answer that? 00:38:52.16\00:38:54.35 Somebody says, "Okay, you are keeping the Sabbath, 00:38:54.38\00:38:56.46 but is it more important than a relationship with Jesus?" 00:38:56.49\00:39:01.40 This is tough, that's a tough question 00:39:01.43\00:39:03.02 but I mean, you know, we know the answer 00:39:03.05\00:39:04.49 but does the Sabbath really matter, 00:39:04.52\00:39:07.18 as you compare with the relationship with Jesus, 00:39:07.21\00:39:09.40 you know, I had relationship with Him 00:39:09.43\00:39:11.02 and you got the Sabbath, does it really matter? 00:39:11.05\00:39:12.84 I mean, let's look at that. 00:39:12.87\00:39:14.01 You know, and we could apply this to anything, 00:39:14.04\00:39:15.07 I mean, we're talking about the Sabbath 00:39:15.10\00:39:16.13 and we'll talk a little bit more about it here. 00:39:16.16\00:39:18.04 But, you know, with any truth in God's word 00:39:18.07\00:39:20.56 does it really matter more than the relationship with Jesus. 00:39:20.59\00:39:23.31 Well, you know, the question we got to ask ourselves is 00:39:23.34\00:39:25.81 what does the relationship with Jesus mean, right. 00:39:25.84\00:39:29.69 I mean, what is the relationship with Jesus mean? 00:39:29.72\00:39:31.83 Does my relationship with John 00:39:31.86\00:39:34.43 mean that I can do anything I want 00:39:34.46\00:39:37.18 or believe anything I want about him 00:39:37.21\00:39:39.14 and our relationship is still maintain 00:39:39.17\00:39:42.74 at the same level or degree. 00:39:42.77\00:39:45.77 Could I believe the worst about him? 00:39:45.80\00:39:47.22 Can I believe things that are untrue about him 00:39:47.25\00:39:49.34 and operate off of that foundation, 00:39:49.37\00:39:52.22 that foundation of error about him 00:39:52.25\00:39:53.93 and still call him my good friend? 00:39:53.96\00:39:57.28 I would say that he would suggest 00:39:57.31\00:39:59.46 or tell me if I were to do that, come on, John, 00:39:59.49\00:40:03.44 you know what I mean, I didn't do that. 00:40:03.47\00:40:06.67 Well, how could you believe that about me? 00:40:06.70\00:40:08.45 Or I mean, a relationship is built on truth. That's right. 00:40:08.48\00:40:15.97 It's built on trust and if it's not built on that, 00:40:16.00\00:40:19.87 if I don't know where you are coming from 00:40:19.90\00:40:21.57 and you don't where I'm coming from in our relationship, 00:40:21.60\00:40:23.62 it's not a strong relationship. That's right. 00:40:23.65\00:40:25.46 So you know, is the relationship more important? 00:40:25.49\00:40:28.37 Both are important. It's not one or the other. 00:40:28.40\00:40:32.15 Truth is important to our relationship with Jesus. 00:40:32.18\00:40:35.29 And anyway weighing on that 00:40:35.32\00:40:37.29 'cause I have some other things I'd like to-- 00:40:37.32\00:40:39.10 You know, and I'm gonna just go ahead and make the point 00:40:39.13\00:40:41.69 based on what we just talked about 00:40:41.72\00:40:42.75 in the context of the Sabbath. 00:40:42.78\00:40:45.27 If the Sabbath were not important 00:40:45.30\00:40:49.33 or if the relationship with Jesus was more important, 00:40:49.36\00:40:54.11 then you have a really difficult time 00:40:54.14\00:40:56.97 saying that all that is based on the Bible. 00:40:57.00\00:40:59.20 Let me put those two together. 00:40:59.23\00:41:01.08 When Jesus says in Ezekiel 20:12. 00:41:01.11\00:41:05.02 "Moreover or furthermore I also gave them My Sabbaths 00:41:05.05\00:41:08.62 to be a sign between them and Me, that they might know 00:41:08.65\00:41:12.35 that I am the Lord who sanctifies them." 00:41:12.38\00:41:15.10 The Sabbath is a sign of a relationship. 00:41:15.13\00:41:18.00 Let me use the comparison now. 00:41:18.03\00:41:20.06 It's like my wife saying to me, 00:41:20.09\00:41:21.56 "Honey, you forgot our anniversary." 00:41:21.59\00:41:24.69 And I say to her, "Honey, what's more important, 00:41:24.72\00:41:27.08 our anniversary or our relationship. 00:41:27.11\00:41:29.59 And she says to me, 00:41:29.62\00:41:30.85 our anniversary is a sign of our relationship. 00:41:30.88\00:41:34.76 If you love me, our anniversary 00:41:34.79\00:41:36.96 would be something you would remember. 00:41:36.99\00:41:38.63 And so to separate the two is to say that 00:41:38.66\00:41:40.40 we don't understand really what the relationship with Christ is. 00:41:40.43\00:41:43.18 A relationship with Christ does not omit truth. 00:41:43.21\00:41:47.82 Our relationship with Christ includes truth. 00:41:47.85\00:41:51.22 So the Sabbath being the truth cannot be omitted 00:41:51.25\00:41:54.39 and then all of the sudden we say 00:41:54.42\00:41:55.47 our relationship with Christ is as relevant as yours 00:41:55.50\00:41:58.42 because we forget and you remember 00:41:58.45\00:42:01.55 or because we remember and you forget. 00:42:01.58\00:42:04.16 You cannot say the Lord asks us 00:42:04.19\00:42:06.78 to remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. 00:42:06.81\00:42:09.19 And you say Lord, I am not gonna remember that, 00:42:09.22\00:42:12.10 I'm just gonna have a relationship with you. 00:42:12.13\00:42:14.42 It doesn't make sense. 00:42:14.45\00:42:15.80 But that's what happening in our world today. 00:42:15.83\00:42:18.31 In a pluralistic, postmodern, ecumenical society 00:42:18.34\00:42:22.10 where everybody is pushing us all 00:42:22.13\00:42:23.67 to get back into same tube of toothpaste. 00:42:23.70\00:42:26.50 People are saying, well, now what do we unload 00:42:26.53\00:42:29.42 to get into this toothpaste tube. 00:42:29.45\00:42:31.22 And a number of years ago, John, 00:42:31.25\00:42:32.42 I heard that it was at a Promise Keepers Convention 00:42:32.45\00:42:36.65 where I'm not gonna mention the person's name but he says, 00:42:36.68\00:42:39.47 "Okay at the count of three everybody, 00:42:39.50\00:42:41.52 you know, mentioned their denomination 00:42:41.55\00:42:43.55 and all the men, thousands of men 00:42:43.58\00:42:46.23 mentioned their denominations and you can imagine 00:42:46.26\00:42:48.46 all the names flying through the air. 00:42:48.49\00:42:50.38 It sound like battle of Armageddon, 00:42:50.41\00:42:52.09 it sound like just confusion. 00:42:52.12\00:42:54.15 And then he says, okay, okay, now let's do that over again. 00:42:54.18\00:42:57.16 At the count of three let's all just say 00:42:57.19\00:42:58.60 mention the name Jesus and, you know-- 00:42:58.63\00:43:01.84 To whom you put your faith 00:43:01.87\00:43:02.93 and I think is what you're saying. Yeah. 00:43:02.96\00:43:04.26 Let's mention who you trust for your salvation or, yeah. 00:43:04.29\00:43:07.36 And so he mentioned Jesus. 00:43:07.39\00:43:09.45 And so but the inference was 00:43:09.48\00:43:11.41 get rid of all your beliefs and just look to Jesus. 00:43:11.44\00:43:15.82 And but Jesus doesn't, He is not an advocate of that. 00:43:15.85\00:43:20.08 He is saying, look to Me first 00:43:20.11\00:43:23.56 and those things that you believe about Me 00:43:23.59\00:43:26.29 will strengthen our relationship. 00:43:26.32\00:43:28.59 But we're in the society nowadays that says, 00:43:28.62\00:43:31.63 does it apply to this generation 00:43:31.66\00:43:33.14 like it applied to the generations in the past. 00:43:33.17\00:43:35.38 Well, the question would be, does the Lord change. 00:43:35.41\00:43:37.44 Now the Bible even says, 00:43:37.47\00:43:38.52 "He holds His word above His name." 00:43:38.55\00:43:41.95 Oh, that's right. 00:43:41.98\00:43:43.76 So, you know, this guy is saying, 00:43:43.79\00:43:45.10 let's just all say Jesus, O Jesus, see. 00:43:45.13\00:43:48.30 You know, He says, My word is even above My name, 00:43:48.33\00:43:51.88 that's how valuable His word is when Jesus comes again. 00:43:51.91\00:43:54.61 This is interesting, John. 00:43:54.64\00:43:55.92 When Jesus comes again, if you look at Revelation 19. 00:43:55.95\00:43:59.34 It says that "He is called the word." 00:43:59.37\00:44:03.20 The word, not a word, but the word. 00:44:03.23\00:44:08.06 Why is Jesus come as the judge of the world 00:44:08.09\00:44:11.51 and His name is the word 00:44:11.54\00:44:13.96 because the word is what judges the people. 00:44:13.99\00:44:18.58 So for you to say, 00:44:18.61\00:44:19.64 well, the word isn't so important or truth. 00:44:19.67\00:44:21.66 The truth we've already talked about the truth 00:44:21.69\00:44:23.20 is the word of God that the word is not so important, 00:44:23.23\00:44:27.85 you're actually taking away from God Himself 00:44:27.88\00:44:31.91 because He holds His word even above His name. 00:44:31.94\00:44:34.12 That's right. He-- 00:44:34.15\00:44:35.20 And forbid that we would do that, you know-- 00:44:35.23\00:44:38.73 Matter of fact, if we go to the next verse. 00:44:38.76\00:44:40.60 Think of the word, David says in the text 00:44:40.63\00:44:42.52 that John is refereing to is Psalms 138:2. 00:44:42.55\00:44:45.17 Notice the Lord says, 00:44:45.20\00:44:46.51 "For you have magnified your word above all you name." 00:44:46.54\00:44:52.62 Notice, He didn't minimize His word, 00:44:52.65\00:44:54.98 He magnified His word. 00:44:55.01\00:44:56.87 The word of God Jesus magnified the word, His written word. 00:44:56.90\00:45:02.57 Yeah, Paul talks about the word that sanctifies 00:45:02.60\00:45:05.38 and purifies is able to save your soul. That's right. 00:45:05.41\00:45:08.26 So I mean, the word can save. That's right. 00:45:08.29\00:45:11.19 And anyway we're gonna go 00:45:11.22\00:45:14.14 a lot of directions in this topic I know. 00:45:14.17\00:45:16.17 But I wanted to go one direction here that 00:45:16.20\00:45:18.57 last Sabbath I preached a sermon 00:45:18.60\00:45:20.72 and I come out of from an approach 00:45:20.75\00:45:22.88 that I'd not seen before. 00:45:22.91\00:45:23.98 You know, you got those uh-huh moments. 00:45:24.01\00:45:25.54 I got to preach about that. Well, this was it. 00:45:25.57\00:45:28.12 And I'm going to Romans 6. All right, go to Romans 6. 00:45:28.15\00:45:31.05 You know, we all, if you believe in Jesus 00:45:31.08\00:45:33.50 one of the things he asked you to do 00:45:33.53\00:45:34.76 is your profession of faith, John, is to be baptized. Right. 00:45:34.79\00:45:39.34 And so we declare our faith, our belief in Jesus, 00:45:39.37\00:45:42.26 we're baptized and ecumenism would tell you 00:45:42.29\00:45:45.31 well, you know, the truth isn't the important part, 00:45:45.34\00:45:47.56 just get baptized or just put your faith and trust in Jesus 00:45:47.59\00:45:51.18 and you will be just fine. 00:45:51.21\00:45:52.84 Right, that's the one time deal. 00:45:52.87\00:45:54.62 We're on the heels of Paul's discussion 00:45:54.65\00:45:57.93 about baptism in Romans 6. 00:45:57.96\00:46:01.41 Are these words as he continues on 00:46:01.44\00:46:03.96 to talk about the importance of baptism. 00:46:03.99\00:46:07.08 And so verse 15 is where I'll begin here. 00:46:07.11\00:46:10.82 He says, "What then? 00:46:10.85\00:46:14.63 Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace?" 00:46:14.66\00:46:18.92 And he answers the question for himself, certainly not. 00:46:18.95\00:46:22.90 "Do you not know that 00:46:22.93\00:46:25.06 to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, 00:46:25.09\00:46:27.97 you are that one's slaves whom you obey, 00:46:28.00\00:46:31.25 whether of sin leading to death, 00:46:31.28\00:46:33.25 or of obedience leading to righteousness?" 00:46:33.28\00:46:35.71 And you know, sometimes we ask or we talk about 00:46:35.74\00:46:38.94 well, you have to do this to be saved, 00:46:38.97\00:46:41.00 you have to do this to be saved. 00:46:41.03\00:46:42.42 And well, you know, 00:46:42.45\00:46:43.58 we're not saved by works, we're saved by grace. 00:46:43.61\00:46:46.86 But come on, we in common sense know that as a murderer 00:46:46.89\00:46:51.04 one going around murdering people, 00:46:51.07\00:46:52.63 you're not gonna go to heaven. Right. 00:46:52.66\00:46:54.28 You're running around stealing from people all the time, 00:46:54.31\00:46:55.81 you're not gonna go to heaven, 00:46:55.84\00:46:56.87 you're running on lying constantly, 00:46:56.90\00:46:58.00 you're not gonna go to heaven. 00:46:58.03\00:46:59.06 I mean, these commandments are there to tell us 00:46:59.09\00:47:02.03 not only that we're sinners but we're in a saving relationship 00:47:02.06\00:47:06.01 or lost relationship depending upon 00:47:06.04\00:47:07.50 whether we're committing those or not. 00:47:07.53\00:47:09.11 So sin is an issue to God, that's why Jesus died. 00:47:09.14\00:47:12.89 But as we go on look at what the Bible says, 00:47:12.92\00:47:15.97 look what Paul says after talking about baptism here, 00:47:16.00\00:47:18.99 our obligation to Christ. What verse now? 00:47:19.02\00:47:20.98 I'm in verse 17 now of Romans 6. Okay. 00:47:21.01\00:47:24.01 "But God be thanked that though you were slaves of sin, 00:47:24.04\00:47:28.42 yet you obeyed from the heart 00:47:28.45\00:47:29.79 that form of doctrine which you were delivered." 00:47:29.82\00:47:32.73 Okay, so you did what, you went on to do what? 00:47:32.76\00:47:35.08 Obey. You obey. 00:47:35.11\00:47:37.02 Obey, so obedience is an issue here. 00:47:37.05\00:47:39.44 "And having been set free from sin." 00:47:39.47\00:47:41.75 And here's the key thing. 00:47:41.78\00:47:43.39 "You became slaves of righteousness." 00:47:43.42\00:47:48.34 And I had to think about that one, John, 00:47:48.37\00:47:50.50 you know, because I've always been taught that when I'm free, 00:47:50.53\00:47:53.66 I'm not a slave anymore. 00:47:53.69\00:47:55.90 I'm right? Well, that's true. 00:47:55.93\00:47:58.61 Well, typically people think if you're set free, 00:47:58.64\00:48:00.35 you're no longer a slave but this says 00:48:00.38\00:48:03.17 that I'm set free from sin but I'm a slave to righteousness. 00:48:03.20\00:48:07.07 Now I had to grabble with that a bit. 00:48:07.10\00:48:08.74 Okay. So I read on verse 19. 00:48:08.77\00:48:11.98 "I speak in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh. 00:48:12.01\00:48:15.22 For just as you presented your members 00:48:15.25\00:48:16.86 as slaves of uncleanness, 00:48:16.89\00:48:18.74 and of lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, 00:48:18.77\00:48:21.38 so now you present your members 00:48:21.41\00:48:22.82 as slaves of righteousness for holiness." 00:48:22.85\00:48:28.56 So now wait a minute. 00:48:28.59\00:48:30.45 I have been set free by Jesus, free from the power of sin 00:48:30.48\00:48:35.23 and I'm not--this is saying, I'm not free to do as I please. 00:48:35.26\00:48:40.75 I become a slave to righteousness, to holiness. 00:48:40.78\00:48:45.94 Elsewhere Paul says, "I became a slave to Christ." 00:48:45.97\00:48:49.85 So this is telling me, I'm not free to do as I please, 00:48:49.88\00:48:53.41 I became obliged or obligated to not commit sin 00:48:53.44\00:48:58.73 but to do or to perform acts of holiness. 00:48:58.76\00:49:03.60 So and let me break this down in the practical aspect. 00:49:03.63\00:49:06.80 And I don't know we've shared this before. 00:49:06.83\00:49:08.41 If you get pulled over as a citizen of the United States 00:49:08.44\00:49:12.11 and as a citizen of the State of Illinois 00:49:12.14\00:49:14.14 both of us are right now. 00:49:14.17\00:49:15.83 If I'm driving my car 80 miles an hour-- 00:49:15.86\00:49:19.21 let's make this a little more personal-- 00:49:19.24\00:49:21.09 let me tell you a story 00:49:21.12\00:49:22.33 this is fictitious by the way so I didn't do this. 00:49:22.36\00:49:24.38 I'm driving 90 one day, John, 00:49:24.41\00:49:26.92 and a State police pulled me over. 00:49:26.95\00:49:30.09 And he said, I caught you doing 90 in a 65 zone. 00:49:30.12\00:49:34.84 I'm gonna give you a ticket. Where you doing 90? 00:49:34.87\00:49:38.33 Oh, yeah, I was doing 90. 00:49:38.36\00:49:39.94 You know, I'm a pastor, I need to tell the truth. 00:49:39.97\00:49:42.25 So he comes back and he writes me the ticket, 90 in a 65 zone. 00:49:42.28\00:49:46.63 And then he says to me, John, this is amazing. 00:49:46.66\00:49:48.92 He says, "Here's your ticket for doing 90 00:49:48.95\00:49:52.54 and remember from now on, 00:49:52.57\00:49:55.61 now that you've have this ticket once 00:49:55.64\00:49:57.49 you don't have to keep the speeding laws anymore, 00:49:57.52\00:50:00.90 you can speed as much as you want. 00:50:00.93\00:50:02.35 So you peel out. 00:50:02.38\00:50:03.62 So I peel out in front of them and I get back up to-- 00:50:03.65\00:50:06.01 I go up to 120 miles an hour, screaming 00:50:06.04\00:50:09.20 and he passes me and waves. No way. 00:50:09.23\00:50:12.70 No way it could happen. Right. 00:50:12.73\00:50:14.75 You know what, we teach this lie. 00:50:14.78\00:50:17.66 Christendom teaches this lie that because we are in Christ, 00:50:17.69\00:50:22.98 we don't have to keep the law anymore. 00:50:23.01\00:50:25.49 Because I'm a citizen of the State 00:50:25.52\00:50:29.37 and I committed sin against it but now I've been set free, 00:50:29.40\00:50:32.15 I don't have to obey the speeding laws anymore 00:50:32.18\00:50:34.08 or other laws whatever that is. 00:50:34.11\00:50:36.09 The Ten Commandments have become 00:50:36.12\00:50:39.83 as I put my will on the side of Christ 00:50:39.86\00:50:42.23 as I put my trust in Him, 00:50:42.26\00:50:43.53 it has become an obligation to me. 00:50:43.56\00:50:46.83 That's why Paul says, I became a slave 00:50:46.86\00:50:49.56 through righteousness, a slave to Christ. 00:50:49.59\00:50:51.52 I become obligated to serve Him in that way now. 00:50:51.55\00:50:55.91 So I'm not free to do as I please, 00:50:55.94\00:50:58.32 I've now became a slave to Him. 00:50:58.35\00:51:00.45 But praise God this Master that I serve now 00:51:00.48\00:51:03.54 loves me more than my own father loves me, 00:51:03.57\00:51:06.48 so I will serve Him out of love, but I will serve Him 00:51:06.51\00:51:10.21 in a way He's called me to serve Him 00:51:10.24\00:51:11.80 in the truth of keeping His commandments. 00:51:11.83\00:51:14.72 He says, "If you love Me, keep My commandments." 00:51:14.75\00:51:18.98 But in the pluralistic world like we've have nowadays 00:51:19.01\00:51:21.93 that has found a home in Christianity and the phrase, 00:51:21.96\00:51:25.46 the argument against that would be. 00:51:25.49\00:51:27.49 Well, I mean, look at all the good 00:51:27.52\00:51:29.48 that's been done by Christians. 00:51:29.51\00:51:31.31 How can we allow our believes to divide us from them. 00:51:31.34\00:51:35.59 And look at how the good that's been done. 00:51:35.62\00:51:37.48 This pluralistic society uses the argument of doing good 00:51:37.51\00:51:40.87 to fight against whether or not 00:51:40.90\00:51:42.30 keeping the commandments of God are relevant anymore. 00:51:42.33\00:51:45.30 The other word is tolerance. 00:51:45.33\00:51:47.07 We're gonna be tolerant of those 00:51:47.10\00:51:49.17 who believe something different than us. 00:51:49.20\00:51:51.18 But let's just entertain that and what would the response be 00:51:51.21\00:51:54.00 to those who say, well, look at all the good work, 00:51:54.03\00:51:58.03 we're feeding the hungry, 00:51:58.06\00:51:59.53 where we have all these societies 00:51:59.56\00:52:01.62 are helping underprivileged kids get a good education. 00:52:01.65\00:52:05.26 We are making sure that the cities 00:52:05.29\00:52:06.90 that are broken down are being built up. 00:52:06.93\00:52:08.25 All these things are good and relevant. 00:52:08.28\00:52:10.24 But Matthew 7:21-23 is put there 00:52:10.27\00:52:16.97 so that we don't think that the things that we do 00:52:17.00\00:52:20.43 now free us from living by the will of God, 00:52:20.46\00:52:24.41 you see, and so when you look at Matthew 7. 00:52:24.44\00:52:26.89 Look at that with me for those of you-- 00:52:26.92\00:52:28.39 some people know it right off back, 00:52:28.42\00:52:30.65 but let me go and read it, Matthew 7:21-23. 00:52:30.68\00:52:37.66 Here it is. Okay, listen to this. 00:52:37.69\00:52:43.12 And this is in the context of the doing all the stuff. 00:52:43.15\00:52:47.18 It's important and everything I've mentioned so far 00:52:47.21\00:52:49.63 that I profess the statement by a good things. 00:52:49.66\00:52:52.40 Yes, it's important to feed the hungry. 00:52:52.43\00:52:54.60 It's important to clothe the naked. 00:52:54.63\00:52:56.63 It's important to make sure 00:52:56.66\00:52:57.69 that underprivileged kids get good education, 00:52:57.72\00:53:00.88 but the church and the government now 00:53:00.91\00:53:02.25 has fought the correlation somewhat 00:53:02.28\00:53:04.19 to better the community very, very relevant. 00:53:04.22\00:53:07.95 But the question I'm leading to is, 00:53:07.98\00:53:09.67 does it all of the sudden now omit us 00:53:09.70\00:53:12.23 from standing firmly on the truths 00:53:12.26\00:53:14.46 that God has taught in His word 00:53:14.49\00:53:16.42 and listen to what Jesus says? 00:53:16.45\00:53:18.42 Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' 00:53:18.45\00:53:24.19 shall enter the kingdom of heaven, 00:53:24.22\00:53:26.05 but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." 00:53:26.08\00:53:31.52 But here's the text. 00:53:31.55\00:53:33.85 "Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, 00:53:33.88\00:53:36.90 have we not prophesied or preached in Your name, 00:53:36.93\00:53:40.72 cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonderful works 00:53:40.75\00:53:46.44 or many wonders in Your name?' 00:53:46.47\00:53:49.07 And then I will declare to them, or profess to them, 00:53:49.10\00:53:53.46 I never knew you, depart from Me, 00:53:53.49\00:53:56.09 you who practice lawlessness or you who work inequity." 00:53:56.12\00:54:01.28 Now why was that so important? 00:54:01.31\00:54:03.01 Notice He says, I never knew you. 00:54:03.04\00:54:04.91 And here's the context, John, 1 John 2:3-4. 00:54:04.94\00:54:08.26 "And hereby we do know that we know him, 00:54:08.29\00:54:11.24 if we keep His commandments." 00:54:11.27\00:54:13.34 1 John 2:4, "He that saith, I know Him, 00:54:13.37\00:54:16.43 and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, 00:54:16.46\00:54:19.55 and the truth is not in him." 00:54:19.58\00:54:23.01 So, John, it doesn't take 00:54:23.04\00:54:24.27 a Christian organization to better communities 00:54:24.30\00:54:26.43 but Christian organizations that are better in communities 00:54:26.46\00:54:29.45 have an extra obligation outside of the-- 00:54:29.48\00:54:31.73 you know, the Red Cross or the-- 00:54:31.76\00:54:34.54 you know, the foundation for the betterment of our community. 00:54:34.57\00:54:37.45 They have an obligation to also teach the truth 00:54:37.48\00:54:41.11 in the context of reaching out and changing peoples lives. 00:54:41.14\00:54:44.14 The group here has put the name of Christ 00:54:44.17\00:54:48.47 as an utterance, just a mere speaking 00:54:48.50\00:54:51.66 of the name above the word of God 00:54:51.69\00:54:56.07 as we already read from Psalms, what was it 123? Yeah. 00:54:56.10\00:55:02.32 That He says, "I magnified My word above My name." 00:55:02.35\00:55:06.25 Psalms 33:2. 138, Psalms 138. 00:55:06.28\00:55:09.98 138, okay, there we go. 00:55:10.01\00:55:11.73 So you have that reference 00:55:11.76\00:55:13.13 but so while God is elevating His word to the highest standard 00:55:13.16\00:55:18.04 these people just speaking the name of Jesus 00:55:18.07\00:55:20.51 have just used that as a way of believing 00:55:20.54\00:55:26.24 or something that has given them enough power 00:55:26.27\00:55:28.90 or given them all that they need for their salvation. 00:55:28.93\00:55:34.09 And what is Jesus' response to that? 00:55:34.12\00:55:36.13 He doesn't even know them. Right. 00:55:36.16\00:55:38.23 So the issue is here 00:55:38.26\00:55:39.76 that there could be people that exist in this world. 00:55:39.79\00:55:42.70 And in fact I think He says many, not some. 00:55:42.73\00:55:45.29 Right, many, that's right. Many, that's more than half. 00:55:45.32\00:55:48.41 Many will say in that day, "Lord, Lord," okay. 00:55:48.44\00:55:53.51 So there are lots of people today, 00:55:53.54\00:55:55.36 who are saying that they are Christian, 00:55:55.39\00:55:56.55 they're taking on the name of Christ 00:55:56.58\00:55:57.82 but they take it on in vain 00:55:57.85\00:55:59.34 because they don't keep His commandments 00:55:59.37\00:56:02.04 or they don't follow His word and what He says in it. 00:56:02.07\00:56:05.23 And even using the phrase, they keep His commandments. 00:56:05.26\00:56:08.05 People say, there you go again with those commandment keeping. 00:56:08.08\00:56:11.28 They're just the commandments this, the commandments that. 00:56:11.31\00:56:14.15 Why do you guys make 00:56:14.18\00:56:15.21 such a big deal about the commandments? 00:56:15.24\00:56:17.35 Well, you know, Jesus made a huge deal. 00:56:17.38\00:56:19.40 He says, "If you love Me, keep My commandments." 00:56:19.43\00:56:24.20 Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. 00:56:24.23\00:56:26.57 You notice the word, keep is being 00:56:26.60\00:56:28.88 coming to the surface over and over again. 00:56:28.91\00:56:30.88 And why would Jesus say, remember, keep, 00:56:30.91\00:56:34.28 if He didn't want us to remember and keep. 00:56:34.31\00:56:36.94 And that what's happening nowadays, 00:56:36.97\00:56:38.27 all these good work organizations, 00:56:38.30\00:56:39.87 all these, you know, get a better portfolio, 00:56:39.90\00:56:43.02 here's how did the seven habits of highly effective Christians 00:56:43.05\00:56:45.67 were following all the secular mindset, 00:56:45.70\00:56:47.80 it's just watering down the truth. 00:56:47.83\00:56:50.14 And we're gonna talk about some other topics 00:56:50.17\00:56:51.87 that are just had been shut off the pavement 00:56:51.90\00:56:55.00 by this whole pluralistic society. 00:56:55.03\00:56:56.91 Yeah, and so you want to stay tune here for this next program 00:56:56.94\00:57:00.03 'cause, John, we're gonna talk about some hot button issues 00:57:00.06\00:57:03.21 just that generally come up 00:57:03.24\00:57:04.79 in topics of conversation between Christians today. 00:57:04.82\00:57:07.91 That's right. And so stay tune for those. 00:57:07.94\00:57:10.46 That's right, because the truth really does matter 00:57:10.49\00:57:12.97 and as you know here at House Calls, 00:57:13.00\00:57:14.73 the reason why we tell it like it is in a loving ways 00:57:14.76\00:57:17.73 because we serve a loving Savior 00:57:17.76\00:57:19.49 who tells like it is in a loving way. 00:57:19.52\00:57:21.98 It's not just about knowing Jesus, 00:57:22.01\00:57:23.77 it's about knowing the truth of His word 00:57:23.80\00:57:26.03 which in fact when you know the truth, 00:57:26.06\00:57:27.87 it will make you free. 00:57:27.90\00:57:28.93 So begin that free relationship in Christ 00:57:28.96\00:57:31.42 by having a good day with Him today. 00:57:31.45\00:57:34.07 God bless you. 00:57:34.10\00:57:35.15