Hello, friends, grab your
Bible and a friend and sit back
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as we explore
God's word together
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on this edition
of 'House Calls.'
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Well, friends,
welcome to "House Calls"
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as you could see John and
John are in the house today.
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Good to have you here, John.
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It's great to be here, John.
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Looking forward to
another "House Calls" program,
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I am excited about it.
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Yeah, friends, you know, we
want you to just stay tuned,
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sit back, hit the record button.
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This is the program
you don't want to miss.
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Our topic is an
exciting one today,
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'Why did Jesus have to die.'
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We're going to get into
that in various details,
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but you know,
before we do anything,
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we always like to have prayer
and I am going to ask John,
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if he could have
prayer for us today.
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Absolutely, let's do that.
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Dear Father in heaven, we
rely upon you for everything
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and especially
when we open Your Word,
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Lord we want you with
us, to lead and guide us,
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so Father send Your Holy
Spirit, to open our minds,
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to open our hearts
as we study Your Word,
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especially this
important topic today,
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'why did Jesus have to
die' we want to know more.
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So lead us, we pray
in Jesus' name, amen.
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Praise the Lord for that prayer.
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Thank you, John,
I appreciate that.
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You know, this part of our
program is so vitally important,
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because it has to do
with your Bible questions
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and many people have
been sending Bible questions,
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in which, it really
makes this program, what it is,
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that's why it's
entitled "House Calls."
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But some people
are sending in scrolls,
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you know, very,
very thick questions.
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Try to make them
concise and to the point,
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so that we can answer them.
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There sometimes we get
on recipient list. Yeah.
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You know, we have where
one of our "House Calls"
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is one of
hundred different emails.
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We don't have
time to read those,
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we basically just delete them.
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And so I feel bad
about telling you that,
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but if you send us
just as a recipient list,
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if it's not a Bible
question, we had to delete it,
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just for the essence
of time, just to add that
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because I knew that some
people just add us to that,
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but it doesn't really
get through. That's true.
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And so if you-- if
you have a question today,
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you like to send to us, send
that to housecalls@3abn.org,
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that's housecalls@3abn.org.
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And we will try our best
to get to those questions
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and answer them in
the best way we can.
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If it's our opinion we'll say so
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but we like to stick with
the Bible as much as we can.
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So who'd like to
start, John, me or you?
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You go ahead, you start today,
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and my question may
take a little longer.
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Okay, Revelation 14:4.
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You have your Bible turned there
with us to Revelation 14:4.
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Okay, notice the text
and, by the way I am--
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we are having a
Revelation seminar
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at our church,
going through the Bible,
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chapter by
chapter, verse by verse.
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Very interesting text.
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And this is on the heels of
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the description of
144,000, but notice it.
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Revelation 14:4,
"These are the ones"
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speaking of the 144,000,
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"who were not
defiled with women,
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for they are virgins,
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they are the ones
who follow the lamb,
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where ever He goes.
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These were
redeemed from among men,
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being first fruits
to God and to the Lamb."
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It begins by describing
something very important.
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It says first of
all, these are the ones
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who were not defiled with
women for they are virgins.
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Now the Bible, when
the Bible uses the word,
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'in prophecy women'
is describing the church.
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Now the woman is first
introduced in Revelation 12,
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and you'll find a
woman clothed with a sun,
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and the moon and the
stars, meaning natural.
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The glory of God is being
reflected from this woman.
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Then you find in
Revelation 17, another woman.
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She is decked with purple
and scarlet and precious stones
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and she has a
golden cup in her hand,
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full of the blood of the saints.
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And the reason why
it's purple and scarlet,
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she is missing the color, blue.
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Which is the color of
the commandments of God.
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Now this group in Revelation 14,
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they also have
another description.
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Let's look at that
description in Revelation 14:12,
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and showing that
they are the ones
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who are honoring
the commandments of God,
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so they would have blue,
represented in their garments.
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It says, "Here is the
patience of the saints.
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Here are those who keep
the commandments of God,
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and the faith of Jesus."
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But now going back
to Revelation 14:4,
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the reason why I say, they
were not defiled with women
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for they are virgins is,
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at a time when the people of God
are having to take a firm stand.
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This is the time where
the 144,000 are sealed.
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It's a time where the world
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is correlates into
two particular groups.
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Those who have
stood for the truth,
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and those who are yet
to either hear the truth
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or those who have
turned away from the truth.
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So the 144,000 are
pure. Their message is pure.
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They are sealed
in the pure gospel.
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And they go forth to
proclaim this message.
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And what they
proclaim is totally undefiled.
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It's pure, that's why the
Bible says they are virgins.
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As a matter of fact,
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when you look at the
other portions of this,
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look at verse 5,
Revelation 14:5, it says,
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"And in their mouth
was found no deceit,
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or no guile"
depending on the translation,
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"for they are without
fault before the throne of God."
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In other words,
they don't tell a lie.
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They're telling the
truth. Truth about what?
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Truth about the gospel message.
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You could register in
on anytime you like, John.
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Well, I like--what you're
saying is absolutely true.
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And I think one of the
things interesting of verse 4,
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talking about them
being first fruits to God.
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You were saying that these were,
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this is talking about a
group who were sealed to God,
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they were sealed in the truth.
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And as we read about
the 144,000 in Chapter 7,
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it talks about
that they are sealed
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before the four winds
are released. That's right.
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So by the time when the
four winds are released,
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the time of trouble
comes upon the earth,
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the 144, 000 have been sealed.
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So when it says
'their first fruit
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it means they're sealed first,
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they've been
judged as not defiled,
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they've been judged as clean,
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they have been judged
as dedicated and loyal
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to their God and their Savior.
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And as keeping the
commandments of God as well.
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So, they're sealed in,
they're ready for the work,
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that they're going to
do, they're called to do
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during that time of trouble.
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That's right, as
a matter of fact,
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if you compare
that with the condition,
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because Revelation
talks about seven churches.
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So if the woman
represents the church,
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we are in essence
talking about seven women.
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But if you look at
Isaiah 4:1, go there with us,
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I want you to see this,
"The condition of the woman"
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or the 'women,' Isaiah 4:1,
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and this is-- the
context here is the,
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in that day, the motive
in the day of God, it says,
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"In that day seven women shall
take hold of one man, saying,
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We will eat our own
bread, and wear our own apparel,
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only let us be
called by your name,
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to take away our reproach."
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So the name that they're
going to be associated with
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will definitely
take away their reproach.
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In other words, give
me the name of Jesus,
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give me the Christian name.
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So this is not talking about--
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this is not
talking about paganism,
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this is not
talking about witchcraft,
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this is talking about those who
are under the banner of Christ,
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but they have their own bread,
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meaning their own teachings.
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They have their own
apparel, their own clothing,
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their own righteousness.
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They don't want
that from Jesus Christ,
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they don't want His teachings.
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And so look at the contrast
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between this
description here in Isaiah 4:1,
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and the description
given in Revelation 14:4,
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they are not
defiled, these are defiled.
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They have their own message,
their own righteousness,
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they just want Jesus' name.
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But these have
not only the name,
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but they have the
message, and they are undefiled.
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Yeah, and if you
read on in Isaiah 4:2,
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it says, "In that
day, the branch of the Lord
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shall be beautiful and glorious,
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and the fruit of the
earth shall be excellent
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and appealing for those
of Israel who have escaped."
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And it says, "And
it shall come to pass,
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he who is left in Zion, remains"
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this is talking about
the remnant. That's right.
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"Remains in
Jerusalem, will be called holy,
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every one who is recorded
among the living in Jerusalem."
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So it's talking
about those who are left
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not the ones who are
saying, we have our own brand,
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we have our own thing. Right.
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Those who are left, who remain,
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who are part of the
remnant, are called holy.
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That's right. So yes, very good.
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So in a nutshell I believe,
that's what is, it's talking,
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and this is a,
this text is symbolic,
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in a sense of the
women, the first fruits,
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but the Lamb is
a symbol of Christ,
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and so the other part we
didn't emphasize very much
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is these are the ones who follow
the Lamb where ever He goes.
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So Jesus directs
and as a matter of fact,
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when the Bible says, they
follow the Lamb where He goes,
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that's what a disciple is.
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He says, take up
your cross and follow Me.
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They have decided to do that,
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but in this context
they are sealed already,
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and wherever He
directs them to go,
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they will follow Him.
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And what's so
important about that,
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is there is a
multitude still to be won,
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during this time of tribulation,
during this time of trouble,
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not when the doors
of probation are closed,
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but when 144,000 are sealed,
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there will go forth to
proclaim the message of God,
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more fully, the loud
cry of Revelation 18.
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Very good. Thank you.
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Here's a question from
Bob, and he is sending it in.
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He doesn't say
exactly where he is from,
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but thank you Bob for
sending this question.
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It's kind of a
question, that's asking us
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to clarify an
earlier statement. All right.
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He says, on a
recent House Calls program,
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the two Johns indicated that
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the tribulation in
Mathew 24:32 and 33,
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refers to the time of
trouble of Daniel 12:1,
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instead of the days
immediately following
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the great papal
persecution of the Dark Ages.
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A reading of Desire
Of Ages, page 631 and 632
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puts these events in
a different perspective,
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than that
presented on House Calls.
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Well, that's a
matter of perspective.
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But let's clarify, John, here,
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what in fact we
did say about that.
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I was reading
Mathew 24:32 and 33,
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and I don't think that
those are the quick verses
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that he means to put in here.
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Because it's not talking about
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any tribulation
in those two verses.
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I believe Bob is speaking of--
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because I remember
talking about the verses
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regarding the great tribulation
from verse 21 and 22.
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So I'm going to read,
21 and 22 here. All right.
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And we'll talk about
those in its proper context.
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Verse 21, "For then,
there will be great tribulation
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such as has not been
since the beginning of the world
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until this time,
no, nor ever shall be.
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And unless those
days were shortened,
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no flesh would be
saved, but for the elect's sake
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those days will be shortened."
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This verse as
we have said before
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refers to the time of trouble,
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a great tribulation,
not in period or duration,
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because it says, the
days are shortened. Right.
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But a great
tribulation in intensity
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and we've said
it before as well,
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that this compares to
the scripture in Daniel 12,
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and I'll read that very quickly
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because you'll see
very similar language
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occurring in verse 1 here.
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Daniel 12:1, "And at that
time Michael shall stand up,
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the great prince who stands
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watch over the
sons of your people,
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and there shall
be a time of trouble,
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such as never was since there
was a nation even to that time."
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So you see, same
language there. That's right.
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Great
tribulation, such as never was,
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the time of trouble,
a time such as never was
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and so there we
find the connecting link.
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Now if you want to refer
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to the 1260 years
of papal persecution,
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back up a little more
in Mathew 24 to verse 9.
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Verse 8 talks about some things,
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you know, nation
rising against nation,
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being the
beginning of the sorrows
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and then in verse 9, it says,
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"Then they will deliver you
up to tribulation and kill you
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and you will be hated by
all nations for My name's sake.
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And then many will be offended,
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will betray one another,
and will hate one another."
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And then it goes down.
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So that's the
period of tribulation
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which is the time of the
1260 years of persecution,
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but the end is not yet,
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because that period
was not the end. Right.
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That period was a
tribulation period
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and the end
came, finally we know,
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at the very end of that time,
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as we ushered into 1844
and the events following that,
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being the time
of the unofficially.
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So Jesus is very, I
think He is very poignant here,
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He is very accurate
here, when He goes through
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a segment of a
tribulation period, John,
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to then the things that happened
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the gospel being
preached to all the world
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and then a great
tribulation happening,
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and then in fact
tribulation is mentioned again,
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in verse 29, where it says,
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"Immediately after the
tribulation of those days
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the sun will be darkened,
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and the moon will
not give its light,
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and the stars
will fall from heaven."
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Now I believe that tribulation
which is saying of those days
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is also the great tribulation,
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and I think this is where some
get kind of mixed up or confused
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because many will say,
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and I know you've done
some studying into this.
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and talking on this point
to, John, that they referred to,
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these days of the sun growing
dark had already happened
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You know, we are
talking about 17AD,
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we're talking about-- 1755.
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1755, Yeah, well,
1833 with the stars fell,
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with the meteoroid shower,
so we talk about those events
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that's already
occurring, but you know,
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Jesus speaks of in Mathew
21, these things happening
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in the context of
the very last days,
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again on a global scale. Right.
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And the Bible is very,
very consistent on this matter,
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and that it speaks often of
something happening locally,
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that will eventually
in its literal context
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happening globally. Right.
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And we find that as
well, where there was a picture
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or shadow of the last day events
happening in 17AD, in 1833,
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that will happen on a global
scale at the very end of time,
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and I believe that's
what this is speaking of here.
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And if you want take a
look quickly at Luke 21.
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It puts in context what
is being spoken of there
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by Jesus regarding
the sun growing dark.
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I'll just read that John,
and then I'll let you chime in.
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Sure. In verse 25--
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now this is Luke's
record of the same message
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that Jesus is
giving only Luke, he gives,
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gives some additional
detail on what Jesus is saying.
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It says in 25, there
will be signs in the sun,
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in the moon and in the
stars, and on the earth,
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distress of
nations with perplexity,
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that sea and the waves roaring.
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Men's hearts
failing them from fear,
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and the
expectation of those things
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which are coming upon the earth,
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for the powers of the
heaven will be shaken."
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And then notice right
there within the context here,
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"Then they will
see the Son of Man
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coming in a cloud with
power and great glory."
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So this happens right
before Jesus comes back.
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It also happens in
the context of people
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who are with perplexity,
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nations that
brings into that context,
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not just one nation,
not just a local issue,
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but a global issue where
nations are coming together
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saying, John, look,
what's coming upon the earth,
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what are we going to do
and the sun is growing dark,
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the moon isn't giving its light,
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but the moon's turned to blood.
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And people are saying,
this is an incredible time,
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things have changed,
God's dealings are not the same,
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what shall we do.
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As a matter of fact, John,
this text gives such foundation
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to that very timeframe
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that is just before the coming
of the Lord, that verse 28 says,
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"Now when these things
begin to happen, look up,
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and lift up your heads because
your redemption draws near."
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So now if you look at
the timeframes of the events
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that have been recorded,
1755, Lisbon earthquake,
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1780, the great dark day, 1833,
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all these events that happened,
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those all those events
chimed in didn't happen,
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I use the phrase
here, before 1844.
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And the early advent believers
lead out by William Miller,
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a Baptist preacher, and
those who have been coming
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from other
movements during that time,
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they were no Seventh-day
Adventists at that time.
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Sabbath keeping started a little
later on, as a matter of fact.
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Even after 1844. In 1850s.
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Se in the 1850s, They got back
to the message of the Sabbath.
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So those believers who
had gone back to the Bible,
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had come to the
conclusion in their study
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that, Jesus was coming in 1844.
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So notice the context of that,
all these events had to happen
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in order to convince them that
Jesus was ready to come in 1844,
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so the last of these
recorded events was 1833,
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eleven years earlier. All right.
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The great tribulation,
that's often referred to,
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as from 538 to 1798,
1798 is only 46 years earlier.
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So when you look
at the papal reign
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from 538 to 1798, 1260 years.
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By no means is that
time period cut short,
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to save a person's life, because
you die of natural causes.
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Right. You see.
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So but all these events
had to happen before 1844
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in order for those who believe
that Jesus was coming then
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to be convinced that
everything was fulfilled. Right.
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But if you look at these,
Jesus is saying in verses 28,
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"Now when these
things begin to happen,
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look up, and lift up your heads,
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because your
redemption draws near."
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Mathew also adds
another component to this,
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and I want to go
back to Mathew 24,
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because Jesus
also used the phrase,
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the parable of the fig tree.
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Look at Mathew 24:27, it
says, "For as lightning coming"
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just as the second coming,
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"For as the
lightning comes from the east,
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and flashes to the west,
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so also will the
coming of the Son of Man be.
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For wherever the carcass is,
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there the eagles
will be gathered together.
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That's the great supper
talked about in Revelation.
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But notice this, "Immediately
after the tribulation
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of those days, the
sun will be darkened,
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the moon will
not give its light,
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the stars will
fall from heaven."
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But this is the part that we
often have no application for,
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this didn't happened in
1833, in 1780, not at all.
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"The powers of
heavens will be shaken."
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But notice the
word, in verse 30,
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'then' it's
talking about a sequential,
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a sequence of events
happening one after the other,
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after the
other, after the other,
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not hundreds of
years spanning between them
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because verse 30
says, "Then the Son of Man
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will appear in heaven
and then all the tribes'
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not just a
certain part of the earth,
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not just the upper northeast.
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Right, all the tribes. Right.
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"Then all the tribes
of the earth will mourn,
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and they will see
the Son of Man coming
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on the clouds of heaven
with power and great glory."
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But now notice the context,
and He will send His angels,
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okay, we know that,
that's the coming of the Lord.
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But now what does Jesus say,
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"Now learn the
parable of the fig tree
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when its branches
already become tender
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and put forth leaves,
you know the summer's near."
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So like wise, here's
again, just like Luke.
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"When you see all these things,
know it is near at the door."
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And how near is it?
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He says, one
generation, won't pass.
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Right, because that
generation will all,
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see all these things. Thank you.
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"Assuredly I say
it to you" verse 34,
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"This generation" that is
the one it sees all these things
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"Will by no means pass till
all these things take place."
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And speaking of that generation
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will see the Lord
in the cloud's coming.
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So we are not
denying any of the events
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that happened,
Lisbon earthquake.
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Somebody talked about
that as the great earthquake.
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Well, now have we had any
greater earthquakes since then.
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Just a few years ago, I
think it was December 26,
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2004, 2005 around that
time, with that earthquake
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that happened in the Pacific Rim
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and over 300, 000 lives were
lost from the ensuing tsunami,
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way larger than 60,000 people
died in the Lisbon earthquake.
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The earthquake in China.
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Okay, earthquake in--
Okay, so we've had much huger
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and I am using
this word loosely here,
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much larger earthquakes
than the earthquake in 1755.
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You know, another
point here too is,
00:21:07.28\00:21:09.20
that not only does
the Lord work in shadows,
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or type and then
antitype, on a global scale.
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What we find here
even with disasters,
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is that God gives us glimpses
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of what will come
during the time of trouble,
00:21:22.52\00:21:24.61
through the natural disasters,
that have been coming,
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we've been
seeing those over time.
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But this person,
references The Desire of Ages
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and if you also
references to Great Controversy,
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you'll find that what we find on
a local scale around the world
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will happen globally even with
disasters at the end of time.
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Because she describes, thousands
of cities will be destroyed.
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In other words wiped
out, thousands. Right.
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That is much larger than
anything we've experienced
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on a individual local scale even
if it does kill 300,000 people.
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We are talking about
millions, at a time wiped out
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and perishing
in the city. Right.
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Repeated thousands of times.
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So the time of
trouble that is coming,
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and I am not
trying to scare everybody,
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is going to be so much greater.
00:22:10.50\00:22:12.10
So much more
significant and powerful,
00:22:12.13\00:22:14.53
than anything this
world has ever seen.
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And you and I can go
into lot more detail,
00:22:17.46\00:22:20.34
on what it's going to be about,
00:22:20.37\00:22:22.15
but anyway that's the
context of Christ description
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of last day events
there in Mathew 24.
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And we were in
Revelation 7, a moment ago.
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I want you to look at
that very briefly here.
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Because Revelation 7 also
brings in the very same phrase,
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Great Tribulation. That's right.
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The 144,000 have a function,
they are not just sealed
00:22:42.52\00:22:48.26
because they are
chosen as the first fruits.
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They have a
function and they're chosen
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to proclaim a
message, but to whom
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and then what's
going to be the response
00:22:58.85\00:23:00.55
to the
proclamation of this message?
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Well that's
spelled out in Revelation.
00:23:02.94\00:23:04.89
Because
00:23:04.92\00:23:07.03
John shows another
group, look at verse 9.
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"After these things I looked
and behold a great multitude,
00:23:10.12\00:23:15.49
which no one could number,
of all nations, tribes, peoples,
00:23:15.52\00:23:21.02
and tongues" and where are they?
00:23:21.05\00:23:23.11
"Standing before the
throne, and before the Lamb,
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clothed with white robes with
palm branches in their hands.
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And crying out
with a loud voice,
00:23:31.00\00:23:32.36
saying, salvation
belongs to our God
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who sits on the
throne, in to the Lamb.
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All the angels
sit around the throne,
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and the elders and
the four living creatures,
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and fell on their faces before
the throne and worshipped God,"
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and it says what they said,
00:23:45.82\00:23:47.13
but now look at verse
13 because the question is,
00:23:47.16\00:23:50.17
"Then one of the
elders answered, saying to me,
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Who are these
arrayed in white robes?"
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and here's the key question,
"And where did they come from?"
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"And I said to him, Sir,
you know, so he said to me,
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These are the ones who come
out of the great tribulation,
00:24:05.37\00:24:10.74
and washed their
robes, and made them white
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in the blood of the Lamb."
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Notice it says, these
are the ones who come out.
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Yes. Now read Revelation 18:1.
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How do they come
out? How do they come out?
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It's one of the commands
00:24:26.46\00:24:28.43
given by God's people in those
last days. Actually verse 4.
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Verse 4 it says, "The
voice came from heaven,
00:24:33.20\00:24:35.44
saying, Come out of her,
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my people, that lest
you share in her sins,
00:24:36.81\00:24:39.53
and lest you
receive of her plagues."
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Okay, now notice the Bible says,
00:24:41.42\00:24:43.17
the voice came from heaven.
00:24:43.20\00:24:44.71
You got to keep this in mind.
00:24:44.74\00:24:46.53
God is not going to be
yelling down from the sky.
00:24:46.56\00:24:50.86
In the same way the
messages of the three angles
00:24:50.89\00:24:54.09
that talked about,
flying in the midst of heaven.
00:24:54.12\00:24:56.47
I want to put
the context to that.
00:24:56.50\00:24:58.82
So the-when it says,
the voice from the heaven.
00:24:58.85\00:25:01.82
In another words, this
is heaven's message to you.
00:25:01.85\00:25:05.30
This is not a
loudspeaker coming from heaven,
00:25:05.33\00:25:08.18
this is heaven's message,
00:25:08.21\00:25:09.34
just as the first angel
flying in the midst of heaven,
00:25:09.37\00:25:12.11
the second
angel, the third angel.
00:25:12.14\00:25:14.09
And you notice
the second angel says,
00:25:14.12\00:25:15.47
'Babylon has
fallen' but it's not said
00:25:15.50\00:25:17.56
with a loud
voice in Revelation 14.
00:25:17.59\00:25:20.91
It's said with a loud
voice in Revelation 18,
00:25:20.94\00:25:23.96
and that's the reason
why, 144,000 are sealed.
00:25:23.99\00:25:28.17
And I know, John,
00:25:28.20\00:25:29.26
we could do this for
the rest of the program.
00:25:29.29\00:25:32.06
The reason why
the 144,000 are sealed
00:25:32.09\00:25:33.88
as they sent this
message, the message reached
00:25:33.91\00:25:36.92
its pinnacle at
that particular point.
00:25:36.95\00:25:39.92
Because the entire earth
is now ripe for the harvest.
00:25:39.95\00:25:45.01
Come out of her my people,
and that's why Revelation 7:14
00:25:45.04\00:25:49.47
says, "They came out"
they came out, what timeframe?
00:25:49.50\00:25:53.75
Out of the great tribulation.
00:25:53.78\00:25:56.25
And that large multitude that's
going to come out of the great,
00:25:56.28\00:25:59.81
that's going to come out
and join the people of God,
00:25:59.84\00:26:02.12
are going to come out during
a time of great tribulation,
00:26:02.15\00:26:05.21
that for God's, in God's plan,
He's going to cut it short.
00:26:05.24\00:26:10.78
So that no flesh-- so
that some flesh will be saved.
00:26:10.81\00:26:14.79
Because the time is so severe.
00:26:14.82\00:26:16.16
Yeah, it's going
to be terribly severe.
00:26:16.19\00:26:18.30
You've anything else.
00:26:18.33\00:26:19.36
Well, I think we are about ready
to go with our topic, today.
00:26:19.39\00:26:22.58
Okay. Which I am excited about.
00:26:22.61\00:26:24.41
Let me go ahead and ask
if anybody has any questions,
00:26:24.44\00:26:26.38
you know, we talked
about a lot here today.
00:26:26.41\00:26:29.38
We didn't get to all
the questions but, you know,
00:26:29.41\00:26:31.44
we do have some
upcoming programs,
00:26:31.47\00:26:32.85
so you do stay
tuned for that next week.
00:26:32.88\00:26:35.71
But if you have any
more Bible questions,
00:26:35.74\00:26:38.33
may be about the tribulation,
about the time of trouble,
00:26:38.36\00:26:40.57
about the
144,000, great multitude,
00:26:40.60\00:26:42.86
or anything that we
talked about here today.
00:26:42.89\00:26:44.36
Send those questions
to housecalls@3abn.org,
00:26:44.39\00:26:48.06
that's housecalls@3abn.org.
00:26:48.09\00:26:50.60
And either Pastor John
or Pastor John will respond.
00:26:50.63\00:26:53.80
We really
appreciate that very much.
00:26:53.83\00:26:56.18
Now, John, this topic of,
why did Jesus have to die.
00:26:56.21\00:26:59.94
Since I did so
much talking here,
00:26:59.97\00:27:01.21
let me go ahead and let
you chime in on this one.
00:27:01.24\00:27:03.98
Well, it's a
topic that, a question,
00:27:04.01\00:27:06.45
that I think
needs to be answered.
00:27:06.48\00:27:10.39
Because there are so many
Christians throughout the world
00:27:10.42\00:27:12.93
who have heard
very simple answers,
00:27:12.96\00:27:16.04
for why Jesus is their Savior.
00:27:16.07\00:27:18.55
Why they've put their
faith and trust in Him,
00:27:18.58\00:27:20.67
to save them from their
sins and why he had to die.
00:27:20.70\00:27:25.49
But there is a depth I believe
00:27:25.52\00:27:27.80
to answering that
question that we all--
00:27:27.83\00:27:30.17
that will enhance our
salvation experience. Okay.
00:27:30.20\00:27:33.91
That if answered
correctly, if we really know,
00:27:33.94\00:27:37.14
why did Jesus, the Son
of God have to come to die,
00:27:37.17\00:27:40.68
to pay the price for our sins.
00:27:40.71\00:27:42.74
If we understand
that, I think that our life,
00:27:42.77\00:27:45.37
our spiritual life could be
transformed in a way that may be
00:27:45.40\00:27:49.32
many are not
transformed to this day.
00:27:49.35\00:27:52.70
Because I've
asked, I mean as a pastor,
00:27:52.73\00:27:54.12
you asked this question,
why do you believe in Jesus?
00:27:54.15\00:27:59.04
You know, well,
because Jesus is my Savior.
00:27:59.07\00:28:02.77
You know, He saved me,
and He forgave my sins and--
00:28:02.80\00:28:05.95
What does that mean? How
did He forgive your sins?
00:28:05.98\00:28:08.66
Well, these questions
become difficult to answer.
00:28:08.69\00:28:11.50
In this program we are going
to commit at this question.
00:28:11.53\00:28:14.52
Why did Jesus have to
die from difficult angles?
00:28:14.55\00:28:17.74
You and I, I know
there's a lot of different
00:28:17.77\00:28:19.06
directions we can go here,
and I've had people asked me,
00:28:19.09\00:28:22.28
and I know you've
had people asked you.
00:28:22.31\00:28:23.76
How do you plan
for these programs?
00:28:23.79\00:28:26.15
You know, what do you guys
have a script or what do you do?
00:28:26.18\00:28:28.80
They are always
surprised when I say,
00:28:28.83\00:28:30.68
"we don't really
plan for these programs."
00:28:30.71\00:28:34.03
These programs are designed,
00:28:34.06\00:28:35.35
I believe to be lead
by the Spirit of the God.
00:28:35.38\00:28:38.23
And we come, we talk
about a topic beforehand,
00:28:38.26\00:28:40.52
what we like to
talk about generally.
00:28:40.55\00:28:42.45
We may bring some
text or some things
00:28:42.48\00:28:44.19
may be to held in front
of us, but we have no script.
00:28:44.22\00:28:46.88
Right. And today
we have no script.
00:28:46.91\00:28:49.35
And so we just want
to answer the best we can
00:28:49.38\00:28:51.72
as two pastors
in your living room
00:28:51.75\00:28:53.30
or in your
vehicle if you're driving,
00:28:53.33\00:28:55.66
answering the question,
why did Jesus, have to die?
00:28:55.69\00:28:59.29
And so, John, I just kind
of springboard from there,
00:28:59.32\00:29:01.45
and I think, the
place to start is,
00:29:01.48\00:29:05.03
this one text, and then we
kind of go off with that. Okay.
00:29:05.06\00:29:10.10
Jesus is being described
as a Lamb, the Lamb of God.
00:29:10.13\00:29:16.19
And John even proclaimed as
he was coming down to the water,
00:29:16.22\00:29:19.77
where he was baptizing,
John proclaimed that Jesus,
00:29:19.80\00:29:22.87
behold the Lamb of God,
00:29:22.90\00:29:24.90
who takes away
the sin of the world.
00:29:24.93\00:29:29.03
So clearly, we have a
lamb associated with sin.
00:29:29.06\00:29:32.34
We have imagery there
00:29:32.37\00:29:33.51
that is associated
with the sanctuary service.
00:29:33.54\00:29:36.33
And the ceremonial sacrifices
that were going on in Israel
00:29:36.36\00:29:39.28
and have been going
on for quite some time.
00:29:39.31\00:29:42.09
But if you go
back even before that,
00:29:42.12\00:29:43.55
you'll find that these
sacrifices began immediately
00:29:43.58\00:29:46.01
after sin entered
the picture. Right.
00:29:46.04\00:29:48.33
Because we have Cain and
Abel, and the two altars there.
00:29:48.36\00:29:51.01
And how Cain or how Cain
brought the wrong sacrifice
00:29:51.04\00:29:53.82
which was the
fruit of his own hand,
00:29:53.85\00:29:55.73
and Abel brought the
sacrifice of the lamb,
00:29:55.76\00:29:58.35
which pointed to Christ.
00:29:58.38\00:30:00.75
Even before the whole ceremonial
00:30:00.78\00:30:02.42
sacrificial
system came into place,
00:30:02.45\00:30:04.50
at least became the fixture
through the law of Moses.
00:30:04.53\00:30:09.32
But let's take a look at
one text here in Revelation,
00:30:09.35\00:30:12.50
and we were just in
Revelation answering a question.
00:30:12.53\00:30:15.74
But in Revelation
13:8, it says this.
00:30:15.77\00:30:23.69
And this is in
reference to the worship,
00:30:23.72\00:30:28.01
initially the worship
of this first beast power.
00:30:28.04\00:30:30.27
"All who dwell on the
earth will worship him"
00:30:30.30\00:30:32.89
speaking of the first beast,
00:30:32.92\00:30:34.35
"Whose names have not been
written in the book of life."
00:30:34.38\00:30:37.73
And then he goes on to
say, "Of the Lamb slain
00:30:37.76\00:30:40.61
from how far before" the
foundation of the world."
00:30:40.64\00:30:43.44
the foundation of the world.
00:30:43.47\00:30:45.41
Jesus knew that He was
going to give up His life.
00:30:45.44\00:30:50.68
He was going to
die on man's behalf,
00:30:50.71\00:30:53.14
even before the
world was created.
00:30:53.17\00:30:56.08
Now that's an amazing fact to me
00:30:56.11\00:30:57.43
and I know you want to
chime in on this little bit,
00:30:57.46\00:30:59.11
but it's an
amazing thought to think,
00:30:59.14\00:31:00.25
that even before
He created the world,
00:31:00.28\00:31:03.14
before even the world
is in its perfect way,
00:31:03.17\00:31:06.92
He came into existence.
00:31:06.95\00:31:08.48
He knew that sin would
enter the picture one day
00:31:08.51\00:31:11.45
and that He would have to die,
00:31:11.48\00:31:13.47
He would be slain.
Yet He still created us.
00:31:13.50\00:31:17.17
Well, you know,
00:31:17.20\00:31:18.58
that's a beautiful
picture to know that
00:31:18.61\00:31:20.24
He had the plan of salvation
in place before it was needed,
00:31:20.27\00:31:24.29
but I want to approach it also
from this perspective in Romans.
00:31:24.32\00:31:28.27
I think for me, as I
springboard into this topic
00:31:28.30\00:31:31.98
"why did Jesus have to die."
00:31:32.01\00:31:34.03
I'm going to go to, what I would
referred to as in very broad,
00:31:34.06\00:31:41.09
a very multi-dimensional process
but in a very simple text.
00:31:41.12\00:31:48.15
The reason why
Jesus had to die was this,
00:31:48.18\00:31:50.67
"For the wages of sin is death."
00:31:50.70\00:31:55.38
Why would you have to die?
Well, that's what sin requires.
00:31:55.41\00:31:58.27
For the wages of sin is death.
00:31:58.30\00:32:00.47
Before we even
get down to the gift,
00:32:00.50\00:32:02.19
the gift was,
what would come after.
00:32:02.22\00:32:04.43
So built into this plan
of salvation was two things.
00:32:04.46\00:32:07.82
I have a way to pay the
price for what they would do,
00:32:07.85\00:32:11.24
if they do it, and I
have a way to bring them back.
00:32:11.27\00:32:14.99
And there's
nothing they could do
00:32:15.02\00:32:17.22
to warrant that of themselves.
00:32:17.25\00:32:18.71
It's going to be a gift. Right.
00:32:18.74\00:32:20.30
and so you see salvation,
John, is not just a gift,
00:32:20.33\00:32:24.43
but it's a gift to specifically
to those who accept this gift,
00:32:24.46\00:32:27.80
and why do we all
have to accept it.
00:32:27.83\00:32:29.81
Another verse, you have
both verses of verse 23,
00:32:29.84\00:32:33.46
but in two different chapters.
00:32:33.49\00:32:35.14
Romans 3:23,
whydo we need Jesus,
00:32:35.17\00:32:42.01
why did He have to die?
00:32:42.04\00:32:43.14
"For all have sinned, and
fall short of the glory of God."
00:32:43.17\00:32:48.47
So when you look at that,
when you begin to see that,
00:32:48.50\00:32:51.36
before we can get into the lamb,
00:32:51.39\00:32:54.48
we are going to get into some
very figurative language today,
00:32:54.51\00:32:57.74
even some prophecies that are
been fulfilled aboutthe Messiah,
00:32:57.77\00:33:00.40
and how they all fit into the
timeframe of why He had to die,
00:33:00.43\00:33:03.74
or the theme of
why He had to die.
00:33:03.77\00:33:05.64
The bottom line is, He
had to die because of sin.
00:33:05.67\00:33:11.73
You know, you said that.
It's a sin, it is a sin problem.
00:33:11.76\00:33:14.50
The sin problem, the sin
problem required payment.
00:33:14.53\00:33:18.10
And so somebody say,
why do I have to pay?
00:33:18.13\00:33:20.04
Because it requires payment.
The wages of sin is death.
00:33:20.07\00:33:24.26
And we'll go to the
gift of God in just a moment.
00:33:24.29\00:33:26.47
But to me
that's the first thing,
00:33:26.50\00:33:28.19
wages, that's why He had to die.
00:33:28.22\00:33:30.37
And you know what?
00:33:30.40\00:33:31.44
To me, John, it's
really, when you think of that
00:33:31.47\00:33:34.82
from the beginning of the world,
00:33:34.85\00:33:36.25
when Adam and Eve
fell into transgression.
00:33:36.28\00:33:40.59
There was no doubt in
the mind of the Father,
00:33:40.62\00:33:43.54
the Son and the Holy Spirit,
that the Redeemer's plan,
00:33:43.57\00:33:46.30
that was now in
place, it wasn't,
00:33:46.33\00:33:49.48
they didn't have
to figure it out,
00:33:49.51\00:33:51.03
it was now in effect.
00:33:51.06\00:33:52.84
And you know what's
so wonderful about that,
00:33:52.87\00:33:55.31
as people talked
about Jesus' coming,
00:33:55.34\00:33:57.20
'you know, one day
the Messiah would come'
00:33:57.23\00:33:59.11
one day the messiah would come.
00:33:59.14\00:34:00.43
Well, you know what's
so beautiful about that.
00:34:00.46\00:34:01.85
It wasn't a one day thing.
00:34:01.88\00:34:03.46
Jesus came the day
they sinned He showed up.
00:34:03.49\00:34:07.55
And go with us to Genesis 3,
00:34:07.58\00:34:08.85
and I would just
jump back to you.
00:34:08.88\00:34:10.47
Would you go and do that.
00:34:10.50\00:34:11.81
Let's go to Genesis 3,
and what I'll say to is,
00:34:11.84\00:34:13.97
we're turning there to Genesis 3
00:34:14.00\00:34:15.79
is that if there
was no plan in place,
00:34:15.82\00:34:19.48
when Eve sinned she would
have dropped dead on the spot.
00:34:19.51\00:34:24.87
Very good point. Think about it.
00:34:24.90\00:34:26.25
I mean, if there
was no plan in place,
00:34:26.28\00:34:29.17
God's mercy could not
have been put in effect.
00:34:29.20\00:34:34.10
Right, there was
no padding at all.
00:34:34.13\00:34:35.32
There was no room, no latitude.
00:34:35.35\00:34:37.64
But she did not drop
dead, Adam did not drop dead.
00:34:37.67\00:34:41.09
Instead God came
looking for them,
00:34:41.12\00:34:43.97
because He had a
plan. That's right.
00:34:44.00\00:34:46.79
And that's the
wonderful thing about the Lord.
00:34:46.82\00:34:49.17
You know, He showed up--
00:34:49.20\00:34:50.45
He didn't show up
necessarily 4,000 years later,
00:34:50.48\00:34:53.44
which in fact we look at
the redemption of the cross,
00:34:53.47\00:34:56.20
truly 4,000 plus years
later, but He came that day,
00:34:56.23\00:34:59.74
and I like the way that
Genesis 3 brings this out,
00:34:59.77\00:35:03.31
it says, "And I heard," verse 8,
00:35:03.34\00:35:07.84
"And I heard the
sound of the Lord God
00:35:07.87\00:35:11.89
walking in the garden
in the cool of the day,
00:35:11.92\00:35:15.84
and Adam and his
wife hid themselves
00:35:15.87\00:35:18.31
from the presence of the Lord
amongst the trees of the garden.
00:35:18.34\00:35:22.41
And the Lord God called to Adam,
and said to him, where are you?"
00:35:22.44\00:35:27.31
And you know why he hid, while
you read the rest of the story,
00:35:27.34\00:35:29.86
he hid because he was afraid.
00:35:29.89\00:35:31.53
I'm going to stop at
the point right there,
00:35:31.56\00:35:33.74
the Lord came and
called Adam, where are you?
00:35:33.77\00:35:36.82
And you know what, that has
been the theme of salvation.
00:35:36.85\00:35:39.94
The Lord coming after us,
not us going after the Lord.
00:35:39.97\00:35:44.50
That's why I'm always
turned off when people say,
00:35:44.53\00:35:45.98
well, I'll decide
whether or not I went to church,
00:35:46.01\00:35:49.15
and that's where I found Jesus.
00:35:49.18\00:35:51.02
No, He found you before
you even entered the building.
00:35:51.05\00:35:53.69
Where are you, get you to
where you're supposed to be.
00:35:53.72\00:35:56.68
Even though Adam and Eve sinned.
00:35:56.71\00:35:59.07
Right. God looked for them.
00:35:59.10\00:36:01.73
And here's the grace of
God is bigger than our sin.
00:36:01.76\00:36:07.26
That's right.
00:36:07.29\00:36:08.72
But it doesn't make
insignificant our sin. No.
00:36:08.75\00:36:13.16
Sin is an issue that
had to be dealt with,
00:36:13.19\00:36:14.88
and if you want any
other, there is no better answer
00:36:14.91\00:36:17.65
I would say, to that,
to knowing that's the case,
00:36:17.68\00:36:21.32
than the fact that Jesus
had died because of our sin.
00:36:21.35\00:36:24.31
Right. He died to
take away our sins.
00:36:24.34\00:36:26.94
So sin is a big
issue for the Lord,
00:36:26.97\00:36:30.16
and often, you
know, John, as a pastor,
00:36:30.19\00:36:31.84
you know the
most difficult sermons
00:36:31.87\00:36:33.38
for us to preach
are sermons about sin.
00:36:33.41\00:36:36.45
'Cause people don't want
to hear about that. Yeah.
00:36:36.48\00:36:39.45
They don't want to
hear about their sins. No.
00:36:39.48\00:36:43.00
And in fact last
Sabbath we had communion.
00:36:43.03\00:36:47.35
And communion is the time where
we can take some latitude there
00:36:47.38\00:36:50.82
to talk about
sin, because Jesus did,
00:36:50.85\00:36:52.97
you know, it's all
about Jesus' death.
00:36:53.00\00:36:54.47
His broken body.
He shed blood for us.
00:36:54.50\00:36:57.16
And it's hard to
go through a communion
00:36:57.19\00:36:58.38
without thinking
or talking about sin.
00:36:58.41\00:37:00.83
So I took some
opportunity to talk about that,
00:37:00.86\00:37:03.20
and one of the
questions we looked at was,
00:37:03.23\00:37:05.87
why did Jesus have to die.
00:37:05.90\00:37:07.81
Why are we here
doing this, you know,
00:37:07.84\00:37:09.99
partaking of the
bread and the juice here
00:37:10.02\00:37:12.84
representing
Christ's body and His blood.
00:37:12.87\00:37:16.24
We are doing that
because we are sinners.
00:37:16.27\00:37:19.45
And we will be sinners
until we are glorified.
00:37:19.48\00:37:23.94
That's right. And so
sin exists even today.
00:37:23.97\00:37:27.76
Although it was dealt
with in two different phases,
00:37:27.79\00:37:30.29
we have old covenant where it
was dealt with by the sacrifices
00:37:30.32\00:37:34.29
the ceremonies that
pointed to the Lamb of God,
00:37:34.32\00:37:37.00
who would come and take
away the sin of the world.
00:37:37.03\00:37:40.52
Before Christ
dealt with in type,
00:37:40.55\00:37:43.33
which is by the shedding of
the blood of goats and bulls
00:37:43.36\00:37:46.11
and the other things that,
they used for sacrifices then
00:37:46.14\00:37:50.27
and then after Christ came,
00:37:50.30\00:37:52.34
the sin problem is still
being dealt with by Jesus--
00:37:52.37\00:37:55.54
in Hebrews it's talking
about, in the heavenly sanctuary
00:37:55.57\00:37:58.26
whereby His own
blood shed for us,
00:37:58.29\00:38:00.98
He applies that still for
us in the heavenly sanctuary,
00:38:01.01\00:38:04.46
for the sins that
we commit to this day.
00:38:04.49\00:38:06.43
And, John, what amazes
me, is that we have any debate
00:38:06.46\00:38:11.52
whatsoever, as
to whether or not,
00:38:11.55\00:38:15.41
the law of God
is still in effect.
00:38:15.44\00:38:19.54
That's a good one, John.
00:38:19.57\00:38:20.87
Because if Jesus is still
dealing with our sin problem,
00:38:20.90\00:38:24.29
a law must still be in effect,
but if there's no law in effect,
00:38:24.32\00:38:28.83
we are not
sinners. That's right.
00:38:28.86\00:38:30.86
Where there's no law, the
Bible says, there is no sin.
00:38:30.89\00:38:34.11
There can't be--
There cannot be--
00:38:34.14\00:38:37.40
if a police
officer pulls you over
00:38:37.43\00:38:39.74
and says, you were speeding.
00:38:39.77\00:38:43.08
He will pull you over anywhere,
00:38:43.11\00:38:44.64
except on the
autobahn for speeding,
00:38:44.67\00:38:47.39
because there's
no law for speeding.
00:38:47.42\00:38:49.27
I also learned this in this,
00:38:49.30\00:38:50.64
if this is not true,
somebody let me know,
00:38:50.67\00:38:53.48
may be not in
the city of Manila.
00:38:53.51\00:38:55.51
I am sure that you can't drive
00:38:55.54\00:38:56.57
through Manila,
Philippines wildly,
00:38:56.60\00:38:59.24
but I notice as I was
driving in the Philippines,
00:38:59.27\00:39:01.63
one of the drivers said to me,
we have no speed limits here.
00:39:01.66\00:39:06.00
And I thought, you
know, I haven't seen any.
00:39:06.03\00:39:09.41
He said, you know, they
figured, we know how to drive,
00:39:09.44\00:39:13.36
we are not going to--
00:39:13.39\00:39:14.90
I mean there are some
people that drive really crazy,
00:39:14.93\00:39:16.50
it depends on where you are,
00:39:16.53\00:39:18.29
quite a difference
in the outer provinces,
00:39:18.32\00:39:22.23
as compared to Manila.
00:39:22.26\00:39:23.57
But people do drive
with some, aggressiveness.
00:39:23.60\00:39:27.15
My point being made is
that if there were no laws
00:39:27.18\00:39:30.51
against speeding then
you couldn't be stopped
00:39:30.54\00:39:33.47
and given a
citation for speeding.
00:39:33.50\00:39:35.71
There could be no
law, there could be no sin
00:39:35.74\00:39:38.42
against what's
existing in the world today,
00:39:38.45\00:39:40.51
if there is no law.
00:39:40.54\00:39:42.40
Jesus would not have to die
00:39:42.43\00:39:44.21
if there wasn't a law
in effect that city had to.
00:39:44.24\00:39:46.78
And yet people,
Christians today teach that,
00:39:46.81\00:39:50.05
by Jesus' death on the
cross, He did away with the law.
00:39:50.08\00:39:55.30
I mean if you
understand why Jesus had to die,
00:39:55.33\00:39:58.12
that question
doesn't even come into play.
00:39:58.15\00:40:01.70
Because we don't get a ticket
and then the officers turns
00:40:01.73\00:40:05.98
and says to us, now
that you had your ticket,
00:40:06.01\00:40:07.98
the law isn't in effect anymore,
00:40:08.01\00:40:09.59
go out speed as
much as you want.
00:40:09.62\00:40:10.95
I mean, that's insane. Right.
00:40:10.98\00:40:13.29
We get a ticket to
remind us-- It's backward.
00:40:13.32\00:40:15.51
That the law is
still in effect. Right.
00:40:15.54\00:40:17.33
So we come to Jesus, and we
receive from Him forgiveness,
00:40:17.36\00:40:21.26
because we are
reminded by the law
00:40:21.29\00:40:23.29
that is still in effect,
that we are sinners still.
00:40:23.32\00:40:25.79
It's almost like Jesus
died and saying, you know what,
00:40:25.82\00:40:27.62
I had to die to get rid of this
law because it's ridiculous.
00:40:27.65\00:40:31.91
And then but in the reality
of it if the law was an issue,
00:40:31.94\00:40:35.82
He would have gotten rid of it
00:40:35.85\00:40:37.14
rather than
gotten rid of Himself.
00:40:37.17\00:40:39.27
That is, He would
have killed the law,
00:40:39.30\00:40:41.85
rather than had to be killed.
00:40:41.88\00:40:44.09
And if the law
could have been changed,
00:40:44.12\00:40:46.13
He would have
changed it after sin,
00:40:46.16\00:40:48.23
so they wouldn't have to die.
00:40:48.26\00:40:50.72
In fact, one of the texts
that I wrote down here, this is,
00:40:50.75\00:40:53.58
I was jotting down some
notes was, God Himself says,
00:40:53.61\00:40:56.73
"I am God, I do
not change." Right.
00:40:56.76\00:41:00.48
And His law,
representing His character,
00:41:00.51\00:41:03.22
we see as there's some all kinds
of verses we can go into here,
00:41:03.25\00:41:07.11
you know Exodus
33:34 where Jesus meeting
00:41:07.14\00:41:10.66
or God is meeting
with Moses on the mountain,
00:41:10.69\00:41:13.49
and Moses says,
"Show me Your glory."
00:41:13.52\00:41:16.40
And so He says, "I'll make all
my goodness pass before you."
00:41:16.43\00:41:19.52
And what does He do?
00:41:19.55\00:41:20.58
He takes two tablets of
stone-- And give it to him.
00:41:20.61\00:41:23.20
Pens it out of the
rock, gives them to Moses
00:41:23.23\00:41:25.20
and he proclaims His name,
00:41:25.23\00:41:27.69
which is His
character and gives him His law.
00:41:27.72\00:41:30.66
So His law is as
much a part of Him,
00:41:30.69\00:41:32.53
He cannot get rid of that
as much as He can change it.
00:41:32.56\00:41:36.19
And so one of the
reasons, Jesus had to die
00:41:36.22\00:41:38.88
was because the
law is unchangeable,
00:41:38.91\00:41:42.33
it is immutable,
it cannot be changed,
00:41:42.36\00:41:44.76
so Jesus paid the
price for you and for me.
00:41:44.79\00:41:49.14
So for us to say, well, I have
accepted Jesus as my savior,
00:41:49.17\00:41:51.73
so I don't have to
obey the law anymore,
00:41:51.76\00:41:53.17
I don't have to keep the law,
00:41:53.20\00:41:54.23
it's not in
effect for me any more.
00:41:54.26\00:41:55.50
It's not reading
salvation, or the plan,
00:41:55.53\00:41:59.09
God's plan of salvation
correctly throughout scripture.
00:41:59.12\00:42:03.64
Going into another
passage in the Bible in Titus.
00:42:03.67\00:42:06.91
That's right, after
the book of 2 Timothy,
00:42:06.94\00:42:08.39
I want you to look at
that with us Titus 2:11-14,
00:42:08.42\00:42:14.38
because you know,
Ephesians 2:8 and 9 says
00:42:14.41\00:42:17.04
"For by grace are
you saved through faith.
00:42:17.07\00:42:20.55
And that not of yourselves,
it is the gift of God,
00:42:20.58\00:42:23.04
Not of works, lest
any man should boast."
00:42:23.07\00:42:25.07
So we have this saving
relationship with Christ,
00:42:25.10\00:42:27.14
which is based on His grace.
00:42:27.17\00:42:29.31
But now, how many of us
are in need of that grace.
00:42:29.34\00:42:32.64
I want you to read for us, John,
Titus 2:11 down to verse 14.
00:42:32.67\00:42:37.86
Okay. And I'll emphasize that.
00:42:37.89\00:42:39.41
"For the grace of
God that bring salvation
00:42:39.44\00:42:42.01
has appeared to all men."
00:42:42.04\00:42:43.68
Right, now why?
00:42:43.71\00:42:44.74
Because all have
sinned. Go ahead.
00:42:44.77\00:42:46.59
"Teaching us"
now listen to this,
00:42:46.62\00:42:48.07
grace of God is also
teaching us something. Right.
00:42:48.10\00:42:51.15
Teaches us "That, denying
ungodliness and worldly lusts,
00:42:51.18\00:42:55.51
that we should live
soberly, righteously,
00:42:55.54\00:42:57.68
and Godly, in this present age.
00:42:57.71\00:43:00.81
Looking for the blessed
hope, and glorious appearing
00:43:00.84\00:43:03.16
of our great God
and Savior Jesus Christ.
00:43:03.19\00:43:06.04
Who gave himself for
us, that He might redeem us
00:43:06.07\00:43:08.55
from every lawless
deed and purify for Himself,
00:43:08.58\00:43:11.89
His own special people,
zealous for good works."
00:43:11.92\00:43:15.69
John, this tells me
00:43:15.72\00:43:17.27
that salvation is more than
just a one time deal. Right.
00:43:17.30\00:43:20.79
Salvation is something that,
00:43:20.82\00:43:22.72
God brings through by His grace
to us every day of our life.
00:43:22.75\00:43:26.39
Right, because we are learning.
00:43:26.42\00:43:28.31
Matter of fact-- the whole,
00:43:28.34\00:43:29.40
and you made references to
the sanctuary a moment ago,
00:43:29.43\00:43:31.22
the Lamb, that take
away the sin of the world.
00:43:31.25\00:43:33.21
That entire system
was a system of learning.
00:43:33.24\00:43:35.51
They learned through
that system of sacrifices,
00:43:35.54\00:43:38.12
what the whole
process of sacrifice,
00:43:38.15\00:43:40.65
what the whole process
of salvation was all about.
00:43:40.68\00:43:44.31
Not only was the lamb slain,
but notice something here,
00:43:44.34\00:43:47.81
and I want to look at
verse 14 again, because it says,
00:43:47.84\00:43:50.99
"Who gave Himself for
us, the lamb being slain"
00:43:51.02\00:43:54.25
that's the beginning.
"He gave Himself for us",
00:43:54.28\00:43:56.85
but what was the whole purpose
of giving Himself for us?
00:43:56.88\00:43:59.94
Not only the
second answer would be,
00:43:59.97\00:44:02.16
the first answer would be
00:44:02.19\00:44:03.22
the reason why Jesus had
to die is because of sin.
00:44:03.25\00:44:05.28
The second answer
would be, to redeem us. Yes.
00:44:05.31\00:44:08.72
Okay, the second
answer would be to redeem.
00:44:08.75\00:44:11.09
He didn't just die for our
sins but He died to redeem us.
00:44:11.12\00:44:16.01
You know the
word 'redeem' there.
00:44:16.04\00:44:17.34
You ever went to
buy the army bases,
00:44:17.37\00:44:20.00
people taking radios and cameras
00:44:20.03\00:44:22.49
and they get this
ticket at the pawn shop there,
00:44:22.52\00:44:25.64
and they go back
and they say, well,
00:44:25.67\00:44:28.40
I've come to claim
my item, that I put on,
00:44:28.43\00:44:30.62
I needed, you know,
$40, because I was short.
00:44:30.65\00:44:33.34
That has redemption value.
00:44:33.37\00:44:35.38
So Jesus came to redeem us,
00:44:35.41\00:44:38.57
but notice what He
came to redeem us from,
00:44:38.60\00:44:40.75
every lawless deed.
00:44:40.78\00:44:43.17
That means, all of those deeds
00:44:43.20\00:44:44.61
that were out of
harmony with the law,
00:44:44.64\00:44:47.43
is what I've come
to redeem you from.
00:44:47.46\00:44:49.82
Now are we still being
redeemed today? Absolutely.
00:44:49.85\00:44:52.10
So there are deeds that
are still outside of the law.
00:44:52.13\00:44:54.24
That's right, and we're
talking about here really is,
00:44:54.27\00:44:57.66
Christ dying for our sins
and paying the penalty. Right.
00:44:57.69\00:45:01.68
But as you said,
several times before too,
00:45:01.71\00:45:04.08
it's not just redeeming us
from the penalty of sin. Right.
00:45:04.11\00:45:07.40
Which is death, He is redeeming
us from the power of sin. Right.
00:45:07.43\00:45:11.53
which is giving us that
holy life today. To everyday.
00:45:11.56\00:45:15.21
So Christ death is not
just about justifying us,
00:45:15.24\00:45:19.90
it's about sanctifying us,
it's about changing our life.
00:45:19.93\00:45:24.31
So if we just depend upon Christ
00:45:24.34\00:45:26.12
and just say,
well, I believe in Jesus
00:45:26.15\00:45:28.12
because He forgave me of my sins
and I don't have to die anymore.
00:45:28.15\00:45:31.67
And that's as far as we go,
00:45:31.70\00:45:32.95
we miss the other entire half
00:45:32.98\00:45:35.26
of the reason for
Christ dying on the cross.
00:45:35.29\00:45:40.02
The other reason is
that everyday I wake up,
00:45:40.05\00:45:42.81
I'm going to be tempted,
this flesh is still mortal.
00:45:42.84\00:45:47.51
It's going to pull
me constantly to sin.
00:45:47.54\00:45:51.98
And the only one that can
deliver me from that is Jesus.
00:45:52.01\00:45:56.32
And what He has done for me.
00:45:56.35\00:45:59.54
And so, you know,
00:45:59.57\00:46:01.38
this part I think
sometimes is overlooked.
00:46:01.41\00:46:04.68
This part of why Jesus
died for us is overlooked.
00:46:04.71\00:46:07.95
He died, so that we
might also be delivered
00:46:07.98\00:46:11.84
from the power of sin
in our life. That's right.
00:46:11.87\00:46:13.78
As a matter of
fact, I have the three P's
00:46:13.81\00:46:15.33
and John just reiterated
that, and I liked that.
00:46:15.36\00:46:18.41
Once from the penalty of
sin, that is justification,
00:46:18.44\00:46:22.49
then the power of
sin, that's sanctification,
00:46:22.52\00:46:25.77
then finally from
the presence of sin,
00:46:25.80\00:46:27.77
that's when He comes
back, that's glorification.
00:46:27.80\00:46:30.17
Another way I like
to look at that is,
00:46:30.20\00:46:31.62
Jesus first saves us
from the curse of sin,
00:46:31.65\00:46:34.38
that's justification.
00:46:34.41\00:46:35.99
Then everyday from
the confines of sin,
00:46:36.02\00:46:39.46
because sin will confine you.
00:46:39.49\00:46:41.53
That's daily, but then finally
00:46:41.56\00:46:42.99
He will save us from
the condition of sin.
00:46:43.02\00:46:45.51
There will be no more condition.
00:46:45.54\00:46:47.58
He's going to change
the world and make it,
00:46:47.61\00:46:49.56
He's going to change
that whole sinful atmosphere
00:46:49.59\00:46:52.75
and make it sinless.
00:46:52.78\00:46:54.67
The conditions of sin
will be finally erased,
00:46:54.70\00:46:56.87
so I have some
C's with that also.
00:46:56.90\00:46:58.69
That's good. But
let's go to the next part.
00:46:58.72\00:47:01.58
Now the spring boarding
off of your last text there,
00:47:01.61\00:47:04.75
we are talking about that God
is calling us to a holy life.
00:47:04.78\00:47:09.04
I use this text
in my last message
00:47:09.07\00:47:10.99
with our congregation
here as we were preparing for,
00:47:11.02\00:47:15.22
for communion and
it's found in 1 Peter,
00:47:15.25\00:47:19.28
1 Peter 2:21. All right.
00:47:19.31\00:47:26.03
You know there are
many today that wonder
00:47:26.06\00:47:27.75
what's God's
calling is on their life.
00:47:27.78\00:47:31.06
You know, why does God
have me where He has me today.
00:47:31.09\00:47:34.42
What is He
called me to do in life?
00:47:34.45\00:47:37.25
And I like the way the
Peter start with this, John.
00:47:37.28\00:47:39.76
In verse 21 it says,
"For to this you were called."
00:47:39.79\00:47:43.05
Okay. It's like
okay, now I am listening.
00:47:43.08\00:47:45.50
And if I am reading
this text, I perked up
00:47:45.53\00:47:47.34
and I said okay,
I am listening now.
00:47:47.37\00:47:49.88
"For the what
purpose was I called." Right.
00:47:49.91\00:47:52.41
"Because Christ
also suffered for us,
00:47:52.44\00:47:54.96
leaving us an example, okay.
00:47:54.99\00:47:59.05
That you should
follow His steps.
00:47:59.08\00:48:02.25
Who committed no sin nor
was deceit found in his mouth."
00:48:02.28\00:48:05.40
Okay, so we are
supposed to follow his example
00:48:05.43\00:48:07.69
by committing no sin and not
allowing ourselves to deceive.
00:48:07.72\00:48:12.02
And who, when he was reviled,
did not revile and return."
00:48:12.05\00:48:15.57
You means, I don't lash back,
00:48:15.60\00:48:17.15
like Jesus didn't lash
out and back at somebody.
00:48:17.18\00:48:19.97
"And when he
suffered, he did not threaten
00:48:20.00\00:48:22.65
but committed himself to
him who judges righteously."
00:48:22.68\00:48:25.84
So we do things differently
than the world does them.
00:48:25.87\00:48:28.91
And then look at this, verse 24,
00:48:28.94\00:48:31.37
"Who himself bore our
sins in his own body on a tree"
00:48:31.40\00:48:34.95
referring to the cross,
why did Jesus have to die?
00:48:34.98\00:48:37.86
"That we, having died to sins,
might live for righteousness,
00:48:37.89\00:48:42.68
by whose stripes
you were healed."
00:48:42.71\00:48:44.91
You see, Jesus died for us.
00:48:44.94\00:48:47.74
And He is calling us notice
this to this you were called,
00:48:47.77\00:48:50.61
He's calling us to
die to our sins as well.
00:48:50.64\00:48:56.34
So somehow Jesus is dying
on that cross and in His death,
00:48:56.37\00:49:01.61
He is also calling us
to die to our sins as well.
00:49:01.64\00:49:07.64
And so we find text after
text, Paul talks about how--
00:49:07.67\00:49:11.82
he no longer lives, but
its Christ who lives in him.
00:49:11.85\00:49:15.48
Because this flesh that
he lives in now he's died to,
00:49:15.51\00:49:18.98
because he's now
living in the spirit.
00:49:19.01\00:49:21.25
And several other times
00:49:21.28\00:49:22.31
he talks about
how we are in Christ,
00:49:22.34\00:49:25.64
as He is dying on the
cross, our sins are in Him,
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we are dying on to our
sins, by the cross as well.
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And I have some
of those texts here,
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and we could
probably, you are probably
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looking up at one of
them or several of them,
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but Galatians,
let see Galatians 6:14
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I have that one
jotted down here.
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We'll just give you a few
here to emphasize this point.
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Another one I want to add--
You have another one there.
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Another one I want to add,
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He calls us not only to,
He didn't come just to die
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because of sin,
He came to redeem us
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and I want to build further on
what you've just talked about.
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Calling us to righteousness.
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He's also come to
make us righteous.
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Why else He had to die,
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and the dying
part was the payment.
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The Romans, here it is.
Let me just read it out.
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I was going to turn to here,
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but let me just
go ahead and read it,
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since we're talking
about that Romans 6,
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here it is- the third reason.
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You're reading some of
the text, I was going to read.
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There we go, how do we
get there we have no script.
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Starting with verse 4.
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It says, "Therefore we were
buried with him" Romans 6:4,
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"Therefore we were buried with
him through baptism into death."
00:50:38.88\00:50:44.01
Notice why did Jesus had to
die. We enter into His death.
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He died, we entered into
it. But we don't stay dead.
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You know, if you go
to a church that's dead,
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they've just
been baptized. Yeah.
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They got to be resurrected.
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No, they're
still under the water.
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You got to come
out of the water.
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Okay, I like that one.
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Water baptism, now they
need Holy Spirit baptism.
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"Buried with him
through baptism into death,
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that just as Christ
was raised from the dead
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by the glory of the Father
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even so we also should
walk in newness of life.
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For if we have
been united together
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in the likeness of His death,
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certainly we also shall be
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in the likeness
of his resurrection."
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So it's not just the deaththing,
it's a resurrection thing.
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But not
resurrection from the grave,
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but resurrection
from the grave of sin.
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The next text, "Knowing this,
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that our old man
was crucified with him."
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It talks about, so we
shall no longer be slave to sin.
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Right, "that the body
of sin" the body of sin,
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you know why it
calls it the body of sin?
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Because that's the
thing that keeps us bound.
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Remember Romans 7, he
says, "O wretched man that I am,
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Who will deliver
me," Romans 7:24,
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"Who will deliver me
from this body of death?"
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See the body of this death,
primarily is the real way,
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it is said the
body of this death.
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And, you know, I am besides,
00:52:04.15\00:52:05.73
I am taking a detour
here real quick. Okay.
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But some referred that as well,
00:52:08.15\00:52:09.67
we want to get out of
this body and go to heaven.
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That's not what
Paul was talking about.
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No, not, he's not talking--
00:52:13.12\00:52:14.15
Paul's talking
about being delivered
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from the body of death
that keeps on pushing us to sin,
00:52:15.66\00:52:19.79
while we live on this earth.
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Christ came to
deliver us from that body,
00:52:21.24\00:52:23.20
so that we might
live in righteousness,
00:52:23.23\00:52:25.74
not susceptible
to the mortal flesh
00:52:25.77\00:52:28.19
that's always
tempting us to sin.
00:52:28.22\00:52:30.28
And in that very same
phrase, he talks about, he says,
00:52:30.31\00:52:33.22
"Do not let sin
reign your mortal body."
00:52:33.25\00:52:36.76
The mortal body-- the reason
why we need Jesus every day,
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and this is something else,
00:52:39.75\00:52:40.78
we need Him for not only
for the payment of our sin
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and the
redemption but the holy life,
00:52:44.28\00:52:47.96
but what else
do we need Him for?
00:52:47.99\00:52:49.51
We need Jesus, another
reason why He had to die is,
00:52:49.54\00:52:53.17
there was no ability on our
part to do anything righteous.
00:52:53.20\00:52:58.26
So how can we be righteous,
00:52:58.29\00:53:01.81
if we couldn't even
deliver ourselves from sin?
00:53:01.84\00:53:05.42
So when the Bible says,
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be there for holy as
your father in heaven is holy.
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How can we be holy?
00:53:09.67\00:53:11.25
Jesus, His
holiness is imputed to us,
00:53:11.28\00:53:15.12
and then imparted to us.
00:53:15.15\00:53:17.14
What imputed means
is, we are in fact--
00:53:17.17\00:53:21.36
when He imparts His
righteousness to us,
00:53:21.39\00:53:23.85
He imparts it to us
as a justified saint,
00:53:23.88\00:53:28.70
as a justified
sinner, now a saint.
00:53:28.73\00:53:31.73
But then He
imputes to us everyday.
00:53:31.76\00:53:34.45
We're now living
in His righteousness,
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that's the only way
we'd been declared righteous.
00:53:36.96\00:53:39.93
I know we are talking about
00:53:39.96\00:53:41.03
being crucified in
Christ on the cross
00:53:41.06\00:53:43.81
and crucifying our
flesh and dying to our sin.
00:53:43.84\00:53:47.03
Jesus says it in another way,
00:53:47.06\00:53:49.00
although we're
seeing the same thing.
00:53:49.03\00:53:50.27
What passage are
you? I am in Mathew 16:24.
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All right, let's go there.
00:53:53.93\00:53:55.89
Mathew 16:24, "Jesus
said to his disciples,
00:53:55.92\00:54:00.17
If any one
desires to come after me,
00:54:00.20\00:54:02.67
let him deny himself,"
that is deny that flesh,
00:54:02.70\00:54:07.01
that he's always pulling
us in a different direction.
00:54:07.04\00:54:09.64
"Take up his
cross, and follow me."
00:54:09.67\00:54:14.06
There's the cross
again. That's right.
00:54:14.09\00:54:15.76
Why did Jesus have to die?
00:54:15.79\00:54:17.04
See it's more than just
pain, the penalty for our sins
00:54:17.07\00:54:19.28
is to deliver us
from this sin even today.
00:54:19.31\00:54:22.71
"For whoever desires to
save his life will lose it,
00:54:22.74\00:54:26.82
but whoever loses his
life for my sake will find it."
00:54:26.85\00:54:31.87
So in the cross Jesus
is calling us as well,
00:54:31.90\00:54:36.72
not only to accept
his death on our behalf
00:54:36.75\00:54:39.36
to pay for the
penalty of our sin,
00:54:39.39\00:54:42.42
but he's asking
us to lose our life.
00:54:42.45\00:54:45.71
So that through the
cross as Christ dies,
00:54:45.74\00:54:48.07
we also die to sin,
so we can experience
00:54:48.10\00:54:51.09
the resurrection
power of the Lord.
00:54:51.12\00:54:54.63
And so some of us, I
think today, and you know,
00:54:54.66\00:54:57.85
we John and I, we fall into
this trap as well sometimes.
00:54:57.88\00:55:01.16
We don't allow ourselves
00:55:01.19\00:55:02.42
to experience the
power of the resurrection,
00:55:02.45\00:55:05.79
because we haven't died first.
00:55:05.82\00:55:09.29
We haven't died to the sin
and its passion in our lives,
00:55:09.32\00:55:12.46
and we don't accept
the fact that Jesus died,
00:55:12.49\00:55:16.02
He's trying to help
us die to that as well
00:55:16.05\00:55:18.01
by His experience on the cross.
00:55:18.04\00:55:21.38
So let's make
this practical, John,
00:55:21.41\00:55:23.27
so when someone cut
you off on the road,
00:55:23.30\00:55:26.44
and he makes you
angry, you know those,
00:55:26.47\00:55:29.80
they just, 'this
guy is an idiot.'
00:55:29.83\00:55:31.57
Yeah, we speed up and
try to run off the road.
00:55:31.60\00:55:33.32
Yeah, we get upset and
we start getting all angry
00:55:33.35\00:55:36.08
and you know, my
question for you is,
00:55:36.11\00:55:39.54
die, you are going to die,
00:55:39.57\00:55:42.67
we have to die in that instant.
00:55:42.70\00:55:44.20
You know when these passions
flare up, die, we got to die.
00:55:44.23\00:55:48.21
Yeah, unless you -
00:55:48.24\00:55:49.27
And we can only do that
in a death of the cross,
00:55:49.30\00:55:52.69
or of Christ on the cross,
we can't just die to ourselves,
00:55:52.72\00:55:55.69
we have no strength to die.
00:55:55.72\00:55:57.47
But on the cross we
have the ability to die
00:55:57.50\00:56:00.20
because Christ took our sins.
00:56:00.23\00:56:01.81
You know, you
mentioned that instance,
00:56:01.84\00:56:02.97
I remember it once,
somebody cutting me off,
00:56:03.00\00:56:06.77
matter of fact it
was a teenage girl,
00:56:06.80\00:56:08.57
my wife and I were
in a vehicle together
00:56:08.60\00:56:10.40
and we were in our SUV
and this little small car,
00:56:10.43\00:56:14.69
must have been
size of a Corolla.
00:56:14.72\00:56:17.06
She was
determine to play chicken,
00:56:17.09\00:56:19.16
we went left, she
would cut in front of us,
00:56:19.19\00:56:21.02
we went right, she
cut in front of us,
00:56:21.05\00:56:22.30
and I am
thinking myself, you know,
00:56:22.33\00:56:24.67
every human feeling
rose up in me. I know.
00:56:24.70\00:56:28.45
I am being very candid
about, every human feeling.
00:56:28.48\00:56:31.65
And I'm thinking this
vehicle is 7,000 pounds,
00:56:31.68\00:56:36.54
she's messing around
with her 800 pound car,
00:56:36.57\00:56:39.02
I am just, you know,
and but you know what,
00:56:39.05\00:56:41.39
I contained myself and we did
what any good citizen would do,
00:56:41.42\00:56:45.40
we called the highway patrol,
00:56:45.43\00:56:47.99
while she was cutting us off,
I reported her license plate
00:56:48.02\00:56:51.07
and they said,
we're going to visit her
00:56:51.10\00:56:52.62
because this is dangerous.
00:56:52.65\00:56:53.79
I don't know
what was in her mind
00:56:53.82\00:56:54.85
but she just won't let us pass.
00:56:54.88\00:56:56.41
The whole point of
it, friends is this.
00:56:56.44\00:56:58.56
We went to the one, the only one
00:56:58.59\00:57:00.16
that could save us from
doing something foolish.
00:57:00.19\00:57:03.02
In the context, why
did Jesus have to die?
00:57:03.05\00:57:05.82
He is our Savior, He
is also our Redeemer,
00:57:05.85\00:57:10.06
but the real reason why
went down this line today is,
00:57:10.09\00:57:13.44
He is also our Lord.
00:57:13.47\00:57:15.77
And you've got to
give your life to the Lord,
00:57:15.80\00:57:17.97
not just the one
that is died to save you,
00:57:18.00\00:57:20.23
but the one that
is going to come back
00:57:20.26\00:57:22.07
and you have to give
your life to the Lord,
00:57:22.10\00:57:23.71
the one that wants
to save you from sin
00:57:23.74\00:57:25.39
on the day by day basis.
00:57:25.42\00:57:26.69
So until you come
back again to House Calls,
00:57:26.72\00:57:29.51
we pray that the
Lord of your life,
00:57:29.54\00:57:31.83
you will invite him
in today. God bless you.
00:57:31.86\00:57:35.16