Hello friends, grab your Bible and a friend 00:00:01.98\00:00:02.95 and sit back as we explore God's word 00:00:02.96\00:00:04.69 together on this edition of House Calls. 00:00:04.70\00:00:06.98 Welcome friends to another House Calls 00:00:22.28\00:00:23.81 program my name is John Lomacang 00:00:23.82\00:00:25.55 and I have with me in the studio John Stanton, 00:00:25.56\00:00:27.76 good to have you here John. It's great 00:00:27.77\00:00:29.45 to be here John. It seems like its been 00:00:29.46\00:00:31.48 a little while since we have actually 00:00:31.49\00:00:32.87 come to sit in these seats and open the word 00:00:32.88\00:00:35.50 of God, but you know what from week to week 00:00:35.51\00:00:37.26 we know that these programs continue on 00:00:37.27\00:00:39.53 and people are enjoying them and we just 00:00:39.54\00:00:41.40 thank you for your feedback. That's right 00:00:41.41\00:00:43.22 we're back in the saddle enjoying what the Lord 00:00:43.23\00:00:45.03 has called us together to do. And so friends 00:00:45.04\00:00:47.55 we wanna encourage you to sit back, 00:00:47.56\00:00:49.11 hit record, this is a program you absolutely 00:00:49.12\00:00:52.33 don't wanna miss. We haven't talked about 00:00:52.34\00:00:53.68 this before. If you ever had problems 00:00:53.69\00:00:55.94 with the shadows of things to come 00:00:55.95\00:00:57.96 and expressing the ceremonial verses 00:00:57.97\00:01:00.34 the more or lot. This is the program that 00:01:00.35\00:01:02.32 you definitely want to record. But before we do 00:01:02.33\00:01:04.84 anything more we need to have some prayer 00:01:04.85\00:01:06.76 John. Let's do that, lets do that. 00:01:06.77\00:01:08.15 Father in Heaven, we just ask that 00:01:08.16\00:01:09.86 you would bless us with your presence. 00:01:09.87\00:01:11.92 Send the Holy Spirit Lord, to lead 00:01:11.93\00:01:14.15 and guide us through this study today 00:01:14.16\00:01:15.76 and we just pray that you'll open our hearts 00:01:15.77\00:01:18.18 and we may understand the words that 00:01:18.19\00:01:19.77 you bring to our, our eyes here, 00:01:19.78\00:01:23.35 but Lord even more than that, 00:01:23.36\00:01:24.63 that we will obey and follow these things 00:01:24.64\00:01:27.18 that you reveal to us. In Jesus 00:01:27.19\00:01:28.97 name we pray amen, amen. 00:01:28.98\00:01:31.66 Well friends, as you know this program 00:01:31.67\00:01:33.73 is made of your questions and your 00:01:33.74\00:01:35.14 comments and I know you would like to 00:01:35.15\00:01:36.54 send them to us, if you like to do so send 00:01:36.55\00:01:38.80 those to housecalls@3abn.org 00:01:38.81\00:01:41.07 that's housecalls@3abn.org 00:01:41.08\00:01:43.66 and we'll download those Bible questions 00:01:43.67\00:01:45.37 and try our best to answer them. 00:01:45.38\00:01:48.19 Today we're gonna begin with John, 00:01:48.20\00:01:49.87 the guy over there. What do you have today John? 00:01:49.88\00:01:52.07 John, I have some couple of real good questions 00:01:52.08\00:01:55.40 in fact just a comment on the questions. 00:01:55.41\00:01:57.80 Okay. We get lot of them and so it is tough 00:01:57.81\00:02:00.67 to get to all of them. That's true. 00:02:00.68\00:02:01.94 And one of the things we try to do is group 00:02:01.95\00:02:03.88 similar questions together, yeah, 00:02:03.89\00:02:05.93 that are often repeated and then answer 00:02:05.94\00:02:08.47 those on the program so some of these have 00:02:08.48\00:02:11.23 come several times and now we're getting 00:02:11.24\00:02:12.79 to those. So this first one is from Damia 00:02:12.80\00:02:17.81 and she is from Jamaica. And she's got a great 00:02:17.82\00:02:22.49 question here. She says that we need 00:02:22.50\00:02:24.82 the statement at one point that leaves her 00:02:24.83\00:02:27.42 to wonder and we said there is never a point 00:02:27.43\00:02:30.75 to where you cannot be saved. 00:02:30.76\00:02:32.32 Isn't that a contradiction to what 00:02:32.33\00:02:35.37 the investigative judgment is about, 00:02:35.38\00:02:37.02 bearing in mind probation. 00:02:37.03\00:02:38.89 My understanding is that once, 00:02:38.90\00:02:41.11 one cannot be saved after his or her 00:02:41.12\00:02:43.41 probation closes. And also isn't the 00:02:43.42\00:02:46.49 Holy Spirit slowly being withdrawn from 00:02:46.50\00:02:48.08 the earth. Let's answer the last question 00:02:48.09\00:02:51.79 that slow, but sure we know the Holy Spirit 00:02:51.80\00:02:53.94 will be withdrawn from those who don't follow 00:02:53.95\00:02:57.16 the Lord. Who have pushed him off, 00:02:57.17\00:02:58.97 who have rejected his moving to him, 00:02:58.98\00:03:01.34 so that, that is happening though 00:03:01.35\00:03:03.00 and has been happening for quite sometime. 00:03:03.01\00:03:05.32 But let's talk about in the context 00:03:05.33\00:03:06.51 of the first question there. Is there a point, 00:03:06.52\00:03:09.95 ever a point where we're past whether or not 00:03:09.96\00:03:12.62 we can be saved and as far as the time 00:03:12.63\00:03:15.34 is concerned, there is coming a time John 00:03:15.35\00:03:17.82 where probation for salvation 00:03:17.83\00:03:20.42 will be closed. Right. In fact if you go back 00:03:20.43\00:03:23.97 to Daniel chapter 9 you will see 00:03:23.98\00:03:26.35 at the beginning of that chapter there is a 00:03:26.36\00:03:27.68 probation period given to the Jewish nation, 00:03:27.69\00:03:30.21 right, for probation and that was to bring 00:03:30.22\00:03:32.87 in the ministry of the Messiah, Jesus Christ 00:03:32.88\00:03:37.49 to usher in righteousness, 00:03:37.50\00:03:39.22 to make sure they put away their sins 00:03:39.23\00:03:40.75 all those things that were very important 00:03:40.76\00:03:42.16 to do, right, as part of their receiving of 00:03:42.17\00:03:44.32 Christ into their overall ministry 00:03:44.33\00:03:46.69 to the world. And we know that, 00:03:46.70\00:03:48.67 that probation passed for them as a nation 00:03:48.68\00:03:50.89 of God's people proclaiming the gospel 00:03:50.90\00:03:52.78 which is the only reason why we have a church. 00:03:52.79\00:03:54.32 There would have been no church had Israel 00:03:54.33\00:03:57.97 as a nation fulfilled their mission. 00:03:57.98\00:03:59.93 The probation closed with them. 00:03:59.94\00:04:01.60 As will probation will close for the church 00:04:01.61\00:04:04.27 in the last days, which is that people 00:04:04.28\00:04:06.78 will have a time where salvation will, 00:04:06.79\00:04:10.52 that opportunity to be saved will be closed 00:04:10.53\00:04:12.67 because Jesus is coming very, very soon. 00:04:12.68\00:04:15.33 But in terms of an individual. I don't 00:04:15.34\00:04:21.65 personally; I don't see what the Bible says 00:04:21.66\00:04:24.19 that any of us is beyond the reach of salvation 00:04:24.20\00:04:27.40 from God. Some will say well you know 00:04:27.41\00:04:30.13 what about the unpardonable sin. 00:04:30.14\00:04:31.49 Well its not God's problem when we commit 00:04:32.23\00:04:35.80 the unpardonable sin. It's our issue, 00:04:35.81\00:04:37.38 so anybody that wants to be saved I believe 00:04:37.39\00:04:40.76 God will never in anywise cast out, 00:04:40.77\00:04:43.54 so He offers salvation will continue to that 00:04:43.55\00:04:45.71 until probation does close to anyone 00:04:45.72\00:04:48.26 who wants to be saved. And so several things 00:04:48.27\00:04:52.58 that we talked about here to answer 00:04:52.59\00:04:53.69 this question, but I think hopefully we have 00:04:53.70\00:04:55.21 covered the context of what we were saying 00:04:55.22\00:04:57.44 that originally in it. Right. And then 00:04:57.45\00:04:59.62 of course acknowledging that they will come 00:04:59.63\00:05:01.23 in time in the future where probation 00:05:01.24\00:05:02.93 will close as it did once, it will close 00:05:02.94\00:05:05.12 for the church and for all the people 00:05:05.13\00:05:06.68 on the earth. Well you know probation closes 00:05:06.69\00:05:08.81 two ways. It closes corporately 00:05:08.82\00:05:12.86 and that's what you're talking about 00:05:12.87\00:05:14.49 for all humanity. But then also, when I said 00:05:14.50\00:05:17.86 corporately I'm specifying 00:05:17.87\00:05:20.09 for the church, because the Bible says in Acts, 00:05:20.10\00:05:22.34 First Peter 4:17, for the time has come 00:05:22.35\00:05:26.75 for judgment to begin at the house of God. 00:05:26.76\00:05:29.39 And if it begin at us first what shall be 00:05:29.40\00:05:32.62 the end of those who obey not the gospel 00:05:32.63\00:05:34.33 of God, if the righteous fiercely be saved. 00:05:34.34\00:05:36.51 Right. Where shall the sinner and ungodly 00:05:36.52\00:05:38.65 appear, so it starts with the church, 00:05:38.66\00:05:41.51 Ezekiel 9, brings that out began at Jerusalem. 00:05:41.52\00:05:45.27 Right. The sealing takes place among those who 00:05:45.28\00:05:49.89 have known the message of Revelation chapter 7. 00:05:49.90\00:05:52.69 So that's the corporate aspect of it 00:05:52.70\00:05:54.56 and then after that it then it goes on 00:05:54.57\00:05:56.64 to the world. Right. But then the individual 00:05:56.65\00:06:00.36 aspects of what we talked about here 00:06:00.37\00:06:01.69 there is never time if you, if you're alive. 00:06:01.70\00:06:04.14 And, and you haven't grieved 00:06:04.15\00:06:07.56 to the Holy Spirit. There is no point 00:06:07.57\00:06:09.80 at which you cannot be saved. Right. 00:06:09.81\00:06:11.57 As long as you are alive, 00:06:11.58\00:06:12.78 but when you die your probation individually 00:06:12.79\00:06:14.99 closes, so this individual probation, 00:06:15.00\00:06:17.07 corporate probation for the church 00:06:17.08\00:06:18.86 and then probation for mankind in general, 00:06:18.87\00:06:21.49 that's where Revelation 22 verse 11 and 12 says. 00:06:21.50\00:06:24.17 Verse 11 says, He that is unjust, 00:06:24.18\00:06:27.26 let him be unjust still; and he that is filthy, 00:06:27.27\00:06:29.25 let him be filthy still. Beyond that point 00:06:29.26\00:06:31.20 there is no chance for anyone to be saved, 00:06:31.21\00:06:32.94 because the mediation of Christ has ended. 00:06:32.95\00:06:35.90 The work of Christ in the heavenly sanctuary 00:06:35.91\00:06:38.66 is done. He is no longer our mediator. 00:06:38.67\00:06:41.71 Now we live in this presence of God 00:06:41.72\00:06:43.54 without a mediator, that is without the 00:06:43.55\00:06:46.17 word of Christ. So there is no more 00:06:46.18\00:06:47.99 mediation work and that's where the 00:06:48.00\00:06:50.16 probation closes. And this is, 00:06:50.17\00:06:51.78 I don't want to jump ahead, but this is where 00:06:51.79\00:06:54.04 the shadow and the type verses the anti-type 00:06:54.05\00:06:58.31 the real comes into play here, 00:06:58.32\00:07:00.51 because what we see in the old service. 00:07:00.52\00:07:02.24 The sanctuary service on the earth was that 00:07:02.25\00:07:05.03 there was a time where the mediation 00:07:05.04\00:07:07.54 of the high priest did cease, it did end. 00:07:07.55\00:07:09.59 And that was the day that it was a very 00:07:09.60\00:07:12.35 solemn day where the people afflicted 00:07:12.36\00:07:14.98 their souls or what they did was they searched 00:07:14.99\00:07:17.06 their souls to see whether or not there was 00:07:17.07\00:07:18.57 a sin between them and their God. That's right. 00:07:18.58\00:07:20.33 They needed to be confessed. 00:07:20.34\00:07:21.57 And so that is typified then to the reality 00:07:21.58\00:07:25.71 of now which is we're living in a time where 00:07:25.72\00:07:28.30 we need to search our own souls to see 00:07:28.31\00:07:30.68 those sins or find those sins that are between us 00:07:30.69\00:07:33.35 and our God, to put them away, to confess them 00:07:33.36\00:07:36.50 allow him to cleanse those sins from us, 00:07:36.51\00:07:38.45 so when probation or that mediation from the 00:07:38.46\00:07:41.14 high priest Jesus Christ ceases 00:07:41.15\00:07:43.11 we will be cleaned. That's right. 00:07:43.12\00:07:44.92 The atonement is referred to as at 00:07:44.93\00:07:47.26 one moment, go to remember that. 00:07:47.27\00:07:48.87 When the atonement work was done. 00:07:48.88\00:07:50.18 If the sins of the people were confessed 00:07:50.19\00:07:52.26 they were forgiven and blotted out, 00:07:52.27\00:07:54.29 if they were not confessed, 00:07:54.30\00:07:55.58 there was no more sacrifice for them. 00:07:55.59\00:07:58.75 Right. Very good point though, 00:07:58.76\00:08:00.06 thank you for that John. Here is another one, 00:08:00.07\00:08:02.24 I think the person's name is Tasha. 00:08:02.25\00:08:06.46 Thank you Tasha. John, John, 00:08:06.47\00:08:10.01 I guess that's you and me. 00:08:10.02\00:08:11.15 I'm a Baptized Christian and I know that 00:08:11.16\00:08:14.61 Jesus has paid for my sins, but there is 00:08:14.62\00:08:17.98 one sin that I committed against someone 00:08:17.99\00:08:21.16 a while before my Baptism that 00:08:21.17\00:08:23.57 consistently haunts me. Could you please 00:08:23.58\00:08:26.50 tell me, what do I have do to put my past 00:08:26.51\00:08:31.04 behind me? How am I sure that 00:08:31.05\00:08:33.68 this sin is covered and forgotten? 00:08:33.69\00:08:36.63 Tasha, here is the answer of the question 00:08:36.64\00:08:39.47 first of all. First John 1:9 here is the 00:08:39.48\00:08:42.99 first promise that the Lord makes to us. 00:08:43.00\00:08:44.84 If we confess our sins, He is faithful 00:08:44.85\00:08:48.42 and just to forgive us our sins, 00:08:48.43\00:08:50.15 and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 00:08:50.16\00:08:51.76 That's the promise He makes. So whatever sin 00:08:51.77\00:08:53.80 we confess Jesus is faithful to forgive us 00:08:53.81\00:08:57.38 and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 00:08:57.39\00:09:00.21 That's a promise, that's not gonna change. 00:09:00.22\00:09:01.74 But sometimes we sin against another person 00:09:01.75\00:09:04.66 and that's why the Bible tells us also to confess 00:09:04.67\00:09:07.82 our faults one to another. 00:09:07.83\00:09:09.54 If I were to a sin of a public nature 00:09:10.29\00:09:14.51 or a sin of a, that has injured someone 00:09:14.52\00:09:17.43 and I said Lord forgive me for injuring that 00:09:17.44\00:09:21.82 individual. Well they'll never know that I've 00:09:21.83\00:09:24.62 asked for that sin to be forgiven. 00:09:24.63\00:09:26.83 But if I go to them and said okay I've asked 00:09:26.84\00:09:30.50 the Lord to forgive me of what 00:09:30.51\00:09:31.52 I've done to you. Will you also forgive me, 00:09:31.53\00:09:34.27 that's the ministry of reconciliation. 00:09:34.28\00:09:36.78 And so the Lord has not only given us 00:09:36.79\00:09:38.61 the word of reconciliation his word, 00:09:38.62\00:09:40.70 his promise, but also the ministry 00:09:40.71\00:09:43.37 of reconciliation that we go and reconcile 00:09:43.38\00:09:45.98 that we become one with each other. 00:09:45.99\00:09:49.07 Let me read that text for you here now. 00:09:49.08\00:09:51.16 Second Corinthians 5 verse 18 and 19 00:09:51.17\00:09:55.09 and the Bible reads as follows. Now all things 00:09:55.10\00:09:58.07 are of God, who has reconciled us to himself 00:09:58.08\00:10:02.56 through Jesus Christ. That's the forgiveness 00:10:02.57\00:10:05.78 of our sin. Jesus is the one that brings us 00:10:05.79\00:10:08.08 back to the Father. And has given us 00:10:08.09\00:10:11.03 look at the counterpart to that. 00:10:11.04\00:10:13.87 The ministry of reconciliation. 00:10:13.88\00:10:16.83 When you reconcile with someone 00:10:16.84\00:10:18.95 when their hearts are open to it 00:10:18.96\00:10:20.54 and I'll share in a moment about 00:10:20.55\00:10:23.17 a situation where people's hearts are not 00:10:23.18\00:10:24.75 necessarily at the moment open to it. 00:10:24.76\00:10:26.63 But the Lord has given us the ministry of 00:10:26.64\00:10:29.28 reconciliation and He has committed to us 00:10:29.29\00:10:31.82 the word of reconciliation. 00:10:31.83\00:10:33.73 So, when you pray and ask God to work through 00:10:33.74\00:10:36.07 you to mend a break or an infraction in a 00:10:36.08\00:10:40.08 relationship between you and someone else. 00:10:40.09\00:10:41.65 He will give you the words of reconciliation 00:10:41.66\00:10:43.93 to make the ministry of reconciliation 00:10:43.94\00:10:46.21 an affective mending of that broken 00:10:46.22\00:10:48.89 relationship. But sometimes we have 00:10:48.90\00:10:51.84 to say, lets flip that around, if somebody 00:10:51.85\00:10:54.81 has done you something wrong, 00:10:54.82\00:10:56.12 not everybody is willing to put that 00:10:56.13\00:10:59.64 behind them and so maybe like Jesus 00:10:59.65\00:11:02.01 did on the cross, you will say Father 00:11:02.02\00:11:03.40 forgive them for they not what they do 00:11:03.41\00:11:05.75 and give the Lord the time to soften 00:11:05.76\00:11:07.97 their hearts to comeback and apologize 00:11:07.98\00:11:11.08 to you for what has been done. 00:11:11.09\00:11:12.48 The apology sometimes is not necessary to go 00:11:12.49\00:11:16.05 overall the details, but to say you know 00:11:16.06\00:11:18.07 I have, I have, I'm broken before the Lord. 00:11:18.08\00:11:20.33 I want to simply say all that I've put you 00:11:20.34\00:11:23.83 through. Matter of fact John once I received 00:11:23.84\00:11:25.62 an e-mail from someone and it was 00:11:25.63\00:11:28.99 really, really interesting. 00:11:29.00\00:11:30.48 Matter of fact it was not an e-mail, 00:11:31.97\00:11:34.61 it was an actual visit from someone 00:11:34.62\00:11:36.21 and they said I wanted to apologize to you 00:11:36.22\00:11:38.98 for all the trouble that we put you 00:11:38.99\00:11:41.06 and your family through. I know that 00:11:41.07\00:11:42.94 there has been some things done in the past 00:11:42.95\00:11:45.56 that have really hurt you and injured you 00:11:45.57\00:11:48.06 and I just want to apologize, 00:11:48.07\00:11:49.35 because I wanna go to the kingdom. 00:11:49.36\00:11:50.89 And I don't want this to be against me 00:11:50.90\00:11:53.47 when the Lord comes. And so if there is 00:11:53.48\00:11:55.92 something that's bothering you, 00:11:55.93\00:11:57.20 I will suggest that you can get in touch 00:11:57.21\00:11:59.60 with the person. You would say to them, 00:11:59.61\00:12:01.25 well I'm a Christian now what I did when 00:12:01.26\00:12:02.74 I was not a Christian, I now see that 00:12:02.75\00:12:05.25 it was wrong. And I want to ask your forgiveness 00:12:05.26\00:12:08.07 of that, will you please forgive me? 00:12:08.08\00:12:09.88 And you know what, give them time to think 00:12:09.89\00:12:11.72 about that and to come to the point where 00:12:11.73\00:12:13.53 they could honestly let that thing go. 00:12:13.54\00:12:15.33 Don't say that I've asked for your 00:12:15.34\00:12:17.68 forgiveness, now give it to me. 00:12:17.69\00:12:18.82 Right 'cause if they don't, you still 00:12:18.83\00:12:20.52 need to accept that. Right, you got to accept 00:12:20.53\00:12:22.31 the fact that well. This is one of those things 00:12:22.32\00:12:24.77 that gonna have to be give at the time 00:12:24.78\00:12:26.54 and to God's grace. Right, I agree. Okay. 00:12:26.55\00:12:30.96 In fact, I think Jesus even talked about 00:12:30.97\00:12:33.54 how if you're to bring offerings, 00:12:33.55\00:12:35.17 if you're bringing an offering to the alter. 00:12:35.18\00:12:36.73 And you remember at that point something 00:12:36.74\00:12:39.54 you've against your brother. 00:12:39.55\00:12:41.02 It says leave your offerings. That's not 00:12:41.03\00:12:44.10 the most important part, the most important part 00:12:44.11\00:12:46.02 is that you reconcile to your brother. 00:12:46.03\00:12:47.68 And then comeback. And then comeback 00:12:47.69\00:12:49.57 and you can give your offerings. 00:12:49.58\00:12:50.58 Now I now that, that's talking in the context 00:12:50.59\00:12:52.20 of brother and sister in Christ, 00:12:52.21\00:12:54.31 but still I think if the Lord is bringing this 00:12:54.32\00:12:57.06 to your memory where you're convicted of it. 00:12:57.07\00:12:59.96 You know I think your e-mail there, 00:12:59.97\00:13:01.80 it talks about how they, they're not at peace 00:13:01.81\00:13:04.21 that means the Holy Spirit is working 00:13:04.22\00:13:05.78 on them somehow to go back 00:13:05.79\00:13:07.37 and reconcile the situation that's 00:13:07.38\00:13:09.62 you need to engage in that ministry of 00:13:09.63\00:13:11.11 reconciliation to go back to him or her 00:13:11.12\00:13:13.08 to help to turn that situation around. 00:13:13.09\00:13:15.73 Yeah, I remember the situation John. 00:13:15.74\00:13:17.45 And this, this is before I was converted. 00:13:17.46\00:13:20.67 I remember a young man who was just kind 00:13:22.06\00:13:25.89 of a hoodlum mentality, that's a New York word, 00:13:25.90\00:13:28.43 a hoodlum, meaning he was just kind of like 00:13:28.44\00:13:30.90 a rebel. And visited my house when we were 00:13:30.91\00:13:35.08 teenagers and I had a new guitar 00:13:35.09\00:13:37.01 and I told him don't sit on my guitar, 00:13:37.02\00:13:39.85 don't touch it. And he picked it up 00:13:39.86\00:13:41.83 and threw it on the ground. My new guitar 00:13:41.84\00:13:44.84 and I punched him in the mouth 00:13:44.85\00:13:46.16 and knocked his teeth out. 00:13:46.17\00:13:47.15 Broke one of his teeth. And I've apologized, 00:13:47.16\00:13:52.41 I want you to know that that's not hanging over 00:13:52.42\00:13:54.10 my head. And I even asked him 00:13:54.11\00:13:56.10 I said see what, and I said see what you've 00:13:56.11\00:13:58.63 made me do. Well, he didn't make me do that, 00:13:58.64\00:14:01.51 but we reconciled the situation, 00:14:01.52\00:14:05.30 fortunately I did knock it out, loosened it up. 00:14:05.31\00:14:08.30 Right. And he kind of straightened it back up 00:14:08.31\00:14:10.61 and the Lord was gracious, he forgave me 00:14:10.62\00:14:14.68 for that terrible infraction. 00:14:14.69\00:14:16.54 That terrible transgression. 00:14:16.55\00:14:18.59 And he still has his tooth, and never it 00:14:18.60\00:14:20.62 had to taken out and it, however it works. 00:14:20.63\00:14:23.38 The roots were strong enough to keep it 00:14:23.39\00:14:25.73 in there. Good. But you know if you have 00:14:25.74\00:14:28.51 those kinds of experiences in your life 00:14:28.52\00:14:30.17 and you use the word of haunts you 00:14:30.18\00:14:31.77 and this is a very strong phrase 00:14:31.78\00:14:33.83 haunts you. That means the Spirit of God 00:14:33.84\00:14:36.33 is convicting your heart to deal 00:14:36.34\00:14:38.06 with that situation. Right, right. 00:14:38.07\00:14:40.53 Very good, here is another question 00:14:40.54\00:14:43.05 I have from Wayne. And he says hello 00:14:43.06\00:14:46.69 John and John and all others, 00:14:46.70\00:14:47.82 I have a question can you tell me 00:14:47.83\00:14:50.47 what the seven spirits of God mentioned 00:14:50.48\00:14:52.62 in Revelation 3:1, 4:5 and 5:6 are. Okay. 00:14:52.63\00:14:55.98 And so thank you for in advance for, for that 00:14:55.99\00:15:00.71 and may you continue to be a blessing 00:15:00.72\00:15:02.84 in the ministry. Thank you very much, 00:15:02.85\00:15:04.32 we appreciate that Wayne. Let's go to two 00:15:04.33\00:15:07.06 texts here I think if we connect these it will 00:15:07.07\00:15:08.97 help a little bit for us to understand. Alright. 00:15:08.98\00:15:10.71 The first one is Revelation 3 verse, 00:15:10.72\00:15:13.68 excuse me 4 verse 5. Okay. 00:15:13.69\00:15:16.38 Revelation 4 verse 5. That's the last book 00:15:16.39\00:15:20.11 of the Bible right John? It is the 00:15:20.12\00:15:21.44 last book of the Bible. Revelation 4 00:15:21.45\00:15:23.12 verse 5 okay. And the seven spirits of God 00:15:23.13\00:15:25.41 are only mentioned specifically 00:15:25.42\00:15:26.99 John in Revelation. You can't go another place 00:15:27.00\00:15:29.79 in the Bible where it says seven 00:15:29.80\00:15:30.96 spirits of God. Right. Okay, so we're going 00:15:30.97\00:15:34.86 to the book of Revelation, three places 00:15:34.87\00:15:36.46 it's mentioned here as Wayne gives here 00:15:36.47\00:15:39.45 Revelation 3:1, 4:5 and 5, chapter 5 verse 6. 00:15:39.46\00:15:43.91 Okay so Revelation 4 verse 5 we will go ahead 00:15:43.92\00:15:47.51 and read that here. It says, And from 00:15:47.52\00:15:50.75 the throne proceeded lightnings, thundering 00:15:50.76\00:15:52.80 and voices, seven lamps of fire were burning 00:15:52.81\00:15:56.44 before the throne, which are the 00:15:56.45\00:15:58.72 seven spirits of God. And you can see 00:15:58.73\00:16:00.38 in the other couple of verses what the 00:16:00.39\00:16:01.81 spirits of God are also doing. 00:16:01.82\00:16:03.28 But it never really gives a definitive 00:16:03.29\00:16:05.13 answer there, but if we connect the dots 00:16:05.14\00:16:07.17 I think we can come up with a good conclusion, 00:16:07.18\00:16:11.26 okay, what these seven spirits of God are. 00:16:11.27\00:16:13.50 Now lets turn to Revelation 1 verse 20, 00:16:13.51\00:16:17.65 now remember the seven spirits of God 00:16:19.92\00:16:21.40 are the fire that's coming okay 00:16:21.41\00:16:24.04 from the lamps, now look at this. 00:16:24.05\00:16:25.82 Revelation 1 verse 20 it says, 00:16:25.83\00:16:31.30 The mystery of the seven stars which you saw 00:16:31.31\00:16:34.02 in my right hand and the seven golden lamp 00:16:34.03\00:16:36.78 stands, so now we are talking about the lamp 00:16:36.79\00:16:39.28 stands not the actual burning fire 00:16:39.29\00:16:41.62 on the lamp. Right. And it says then, 00:16:41.63\00:16:44.46 The seven stars are the seven angels 00:16:44.47\00:16:46.50 of the seven churches and the seven lamp 00:16:46.51\00:16:48.96 stands which you saw are the seven churches. 00:16:48.97\00:16:51.57 So as the lamp stands themselves 00:16:51.58\00:16:54.86 which hold the fire are the seven churches. 00:16:54.87\00:16:58.15 Now the fire is burning above are from those 00:16:58.16\00:17:01.40 lamp stands and the seven spirits of God 00:17:01.41\00:17:03.47 are the fire that's coming, then that is 00:17:03.48\00:17:07.08 God's work within the seven churches. 00:17:07.09\00:17:10.11 And we know that Revelation 2 and 3 00:17:10.12\00:17:13.97 talking about the seven different churches 00:17:13.98\00:17:15.73 and we believe that, it was a historicist 00:17:15.74\00:17:18.12 approach to Revelation that is showing 00:17:18.13\00:17:20.72 not only things are going on in the 00:17:20.73\00:17:22.45 seven churches at the time John wrote it, 00:17:22.46\00:17:24.28 but it means to point us down through time 00:17:24.29\00:17:27.59 to the history of God's church. 00:17:27.60\00:17:29.50 The end being the church of Laodicea. 00:17:29.51\00:17:32.29 So throughout history God has had his spirit 00:17:32.88\00:17:36.40 working in the church at that time 00:17:36.41\00:17:38.26 and He's worked mightily and we find in fact 00:17:38.27\00:17:40.75 in this the context of Revelation 1 00:17:40.76\00:17:43.68 that Jesus himself is walking in the midst of 00:17:43.69\00:17:46.28 the lamp stands. That's right. 00:17:46.29\00:17:47.75 So Jesus is working through the power 00:17:47.76\00:17:49.71 of the Holy Spirit in a united way to bring 00:17:49.72\00:17:52.79 about strength and vigor and energy 00:17:52.80\00:17:55.50 and success for the ministry of the churches 00:17:55.51\00:17:58.37 and that power comes from the Holy Spirit 00:17:58.38\00:18:00.76 itself. So I think that's what the 00:18:00.77\00:18:03.00 seven spirits of God are working in the churches. 00:18:03.01\00:18:06.04 Right, the Holy Spirit of God working 00:18:06.05\00:18:07.87 throughout the generation of the 00:18:07.88\00:18:09.61 New Testament churches and the number 7 00:18:09.62\00:18:12.36 as you know denotes completeness. Yes. 00:18:12.37\00:18:15.60 The complete work of God's Holy Spirit 00:18:15.61\00:18:18.04 working throughout the churches, 00:18:18.05\00:18:19.58 seven being the affect and the application 00:18:19.59\00:18:22.41 of that, thank you very much for that question. 00:18:22.42\00:18:23.97 Here is another one. It says I enjoy 00:18:24.88\00:18:27.51 your program. Thank you very much. 00:18:27.52\00:18:29.81 We like questions and comments like that. 00:18:29.82\00:18:31.66 This is from Beverly, sometimes people ask 00:18:31.67\00:18:35.56 questions that I've also wondered about, 00:18:35.57\00:18:38.11 forgive me if someone has already asked, 00:18:38.12\00:18:40.48 asked this question. Now this was based 00:18:40.49\00:18:44.01 on the Sabbath school lesson and I won't tell 00:18:44.02\00:18:46.01 which one it is, because I don't want to date 00:18:46.02\00:18:47.94 the program. But the quotation 00:18:47.95\00:18:50.42 read as follows, there is no question 00:18:50.43\00:18:52.92 that there will be people in heaven 00:18:52.93\00:18:54.86 who have never heard the gospel. 00:18:54.87\00:18:56.99 How can that be? God commands us to go 00:18:57.00\00:19:00.73 unto all the world and preach the gospel, 00:19:00.74\00:19:04.23 then he will come. I've always been under 00:19:04.24\00:19:06.87 the assumption that everyone on earth, 00:19:06.88\00:19:08.65 everybody on earth must have been told about 00:19:08.66\00:19:12.43 the gospel truth before God can come again. 00:19:12.44\00:19:16.37 This statement from the Sabbath School lesson 00:19:17.35\00:19:20.06 sounds like we don't have to wait until 00:19:20.07\00:19:21.61 everyone knows the truth before God, 00:19:21.62\00:19:25.73 Jesus comes again. Well let me encourage you. 00:19:25.74\00:19:29.62 There will be the gospel being preached 00:19:29.63\00:19:33.89 in the New Testament is not the only gospel. 00:19:33.90\00:19:38.73 The knowledge of Christ, the gospel was 00:19:38.74\00:19:41.41 preached in the Old Testament, 00:19:41.42\00:19:42.71 the gospel was preached in all the ages not 00:19:42.72\00:19:45.91 necessarily is mentioning the name 00:19:45.92\00:19:48.17 Jesus in the Old Testament 00:19:48.18\00:19:49.58 or not necessarily even mentioning the name 00:19:49.59\00:19:51.73 Jesus among heathens. But the Bible 00:19:51.74\00:19:54.55 makes it clear in Romans 1 and I'm gonna read 00:19:54.56\00:19:57.37 from verse 16 to 21 that there is gonna be 00:19:57.38\00:20:00.19 no one that has an excuse to say 00:20:00.20\00:20:02.56 what we haven't heard in the gospel. 00:20:02.57\00:20:03.98 Because even David's Psalms talks about 00:20:03.99\00:20:06.60 creation in and of itself, there is no 00:20:06.61\00:20:10.00 place where their voice is not heard. 00:20:10.01\00:20:12.98 And if the heaven is declared the 00:20:12.99\00:20:14.92 glory of God and their voice is heard 00:20:14.93\00:20:17.79 everywhere and the glory of God has been seen 00:20:17.80\00:20:20.57 and heard everywhere. Acknowledging 00:20:20.58\00:20:22.81 the fact and this is amazing how some 00:20:22.82\00:20:24.82 scientists nowadays John are, are pushing hard 00:20:24.83\00:20:27.55 to keep the word intelligence out of the 00:20:27.56\00:20:30.86 science community, because of it, 00:20:30.87\00:20:32.20 this is a strangest thing. If you see that 00:20:32.21\00:20:34.40 science shows that we are surrounded by 00:20:34.41\00:20:37.41 intelligent design then you have to 00:20:37.42\00:20:40.76 conclude that, that intelligent design came 00:20:40.77\00:20:42.91 from an intelligent being. Nothing 00:20:42.92\00:20:45.49 intelligent just showed up. You know 00:20:45.50\00:20:47.33 there is a new vehicle that came out now, 00:20:47.34\00:20:49.37 I don't mention which one it is, but 00:20:49.38\00:20:50.79 a new very hi-tech foreign vehicle. 00:20:50.80\00:20:52.63 And then what's so unique about it is 00:20:52.64\00:20:55.75 not only does it, that you know, 00:20:55.76\00:20:57.73 like you know you are the reverse sign 00:20:57.74\00:21:00.49 when you're getting close to a car 00:21:00.50\00:21:01.56 how that sonar it beep ups, beep, beep, beep 00:21:01.57\00:21:05.17 as you're get closer and closer, 00:21:05.18\00:21:06.23 but there are some vehicles that have it 00:21:06.24\00:21:07.94 for the front letting you know you're getting 00:21:07.95\00:21:09.30 too closer to the vehicle in front of you, 00:21:09.31\00:21:10.43 but this new vehicle now has a device built 00:21:10.44\00:21:13.89 into it where if you, if you, for whatever 00:21:13.90\00:21:16.23 reason don't stop soon enough it'll stop 00:21:16.24\00:21:18.90 the vehicle for you. In the same way the Lord 00:21:18.91\00:21:21.37 has built into his word, means where by 00:21:21.38\00:21:23.82 we will know that just as a vehicle 00:21:23.83\00:21:26.26 we'll have no excuse for hitting another one. 00:21:26.27\00:21:28.32 We will have no excuse for saying 00:21:28.33\00:21:30.32 we haven't heard the gospel. 00:21:30.33\00:21:31.54 And so I wanna expand that, 00:21:31.55\00:21:33.16 because there was a time in the history 00:21:33.17\00:21:34.77 where the gospel wasn't being preached 00:21:34.78\00:21:36.80 as it is now. You know that commission 00:21:36.81\00:21:39.36 to go into all the world and preach the gospel 00:21:39.37\00:21:40.82 was given to the disciples. 00:21:40.83\00:21:41.99 So is that to say that prior to that there was 00:21:42.00\00:21:44.93 no gospel being preached? No the gospel 00:21:44.94\00:21:47.01 was being preached. Matter of fact today 00:21:47.02\00:21:48.89 we're gonna talk about that how it was 00:21:48.90\00:21:50.64 being preached in type and then later on 00:21:50.65\00:21:53.37 in anti-type. Let me read the text for you. 00:21:53.38\00:21:55.28 Romans 1 verse 16 to verse 21, 00:21:55.29\00:21:59.27 Paul begins by saying, For I'm not ashamed 00:21:59.28\00:22:03.08 of the gospel of Christ. For it is the power 00:22:03.09\00:22:06.32 of God to salvation, for everyone who believes, 00:22:06.33\00:22:12.45 for the Jew first and also for the Greek. 00:22:12.46\00:22:15.58 For in it the righteousness of God 00:22:16.78\00:22:19.91 is revealed from faith to faith as it is 00:22:19.92\00:22:22.83 written the just shall live by his faith. 00:22:22.84\00:22:25.74 Now follow carefully, For the wrath of God 00:22:25.75\00:22:28.95 is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness 00:22:28.96\00:22:31.40 and unrighteousness of men, who suppress 00:22:31.41\00:22:34.34 the truth in unrighteousness. 00:22:34.35\00:22:36.40 Because what maybe known of God is manifest 00:22:36.41\00:22:40.86 in them for God has shown it to them. 00:22:40.87\00:22:45.82 Watch this, verse 20. For since the creation 00:22:46.96\00:22:50.39 of the world, now notice how far back we go. 00:22:50.40\00:22:53.43 For since the creation of the world 00:22:53.44\00:22:55.78 his invisible attributes are clearly seen. 00:22:55.79\00:22:59.44 Being understood by the things that are made, 00:23:00.34\00:23:03.39 even notice what else was revealed. 00:23:03.40\00:23:06.03 Even his eternal power and God had 00:23:06.04\00:23:08.60 and watch this, so that they are without excuse. 00:23:08.61\00:23:13.67 So there is no time that somebody can say 00:23:13.68\00:23:16.99 well I have an excuse. No. If you've been 00:23:17.00\00:23:19.50 here since the creation of this world, 00:23:19.51\00:23:21.12 you have no excuse. So in that sense 00:23:21.13\00:23:24.76 there is not a generation who hasn't 00:23:24.77\00:23:26.95 heard our presentation to let them know 00:23:26.96\00:23:29.30 that God is God. Whether they called on the name 00:23:29.31\00:23:33.56 of God in the Old Testament. 00:23:33.57\00:23:34.96 Whether they called on the name of Jesus 00:23:34.97\00:23:37.05 in the New Testament, same person. 00:23:37.06\00:23:38.94 Only one way to be saved and clearly 00:23:38.95\00:23:42.91 here is the reason why many probably 00:23:42.92\00:23:45.82 won't be saved. Well let me just rephrase that, 00:23:45.83\00:23:48.22 many won't be saved, because although 00:23:48.23\00:23:50.24 they knew God, verse 21, although 00:23:50.25\00:23:52.09 they knew God they did not glorify him as God. 00:23:52.10\00:23:54.60 And so clearly when this passage says 00:23:54.61\00:23:57.20 there is no question that there will be 00:23:57.21\00:23:59.33 people heaven who never heard the gospel. 00:23:59.34\00:24:01.64 It maybe talking about the gospel 00:24:01.65\00:24:05.53 presentation of today. Yeah I mean this are 00:24:05.54\00:24:07.84 the simple ways of presenting the gospel. 00:24:07.85\00:24:09.21 Yeah. Whether they have the preaching 00:24:09.22\00:24:10.60 of Christ in this ministry and where 00:24:10.61\00:24:12.45 he's done, right, and that appeal draws hearts 00:24:12.46\00:24:14.96 to them. But you know the gospel is being 00:24:14.97\00:24:16.73 preached through nature as well, 00:24:16.74\00:24:19.00 so there are those who have received the gospel 00:24:19.01\00:24:21.79 through, through what they see in creation, 00:24:21.80\00:24:24.56 a loving God who, who's created them 00:24:24.57\00:24:27.11 and wants a relationship with them. 00:24:27.12\00:24:28.72 And they see to draw that into that 00:24:28.73\00:24:30.67 relationship, we draw close to the God. 00:24:30.68\00:24:32.46 The creator God who established that 00:24:32.47\00:24:35.07 relationship with them and so they're, 00:24:35.08\00:24:36.69 there is that gospel being preached as well, 00:24:36.70\00:24:39.11 not just the preaching of the ministry of 00:24:39.12\00:24:41.84 Jesus Christ and what he's done. 00:24:41.85\00:24:44.10 Now, you know some would take to the nth degree 00:24:44.11\00:24:48.86 and I say nth degree, but I mean its, 00:24:48.87\00:24:51.09 you know this, you have heard this where only 00:24:51.10\00:24:54.98 through Christ and accepting Christ 00:24:54.99\00:24:56.79 can you be saved. You know and that's the 00:24:56.80\00:24:58.57 statement that we know was accurate, 00:24:58.58\00:25:00.05 but the meaning of that statement isn't always 00:25:00.06\00:25:02.17 clear, because we're clear with 00:25:02.18\00:25:04.57 what we're saying here, that some may not have 00:25:04.58\00:25:05.86 heard the name of Jesus Christ 00:25:05.87\00:25:07.44 and still be saved. That's right. 00:25:07.45\00:25:09.02 I think what, what that text is saying 00:25:09.03\00:25:10.84 more is that if it wasn't for Christ 00:25:10.85\00:25:14.57 and what he did, no one could be saved. 00:25:14.58\00:25:16.97 Exactly. More than just accepting 00:25:16.98\00:25:20.54 the name as you hear it and then by mentally 00:25:20.55\00:25:23.57 sensing, I'm following Jesus. 00:25:23.58\00:25:25.19 And by faith is well. So what it's really saying 00:25:25.20\00:25:28.82 is without what Christ did for us, 00:25:28.83\00:25:30.67 we, no one will be saved. Whether they've 00:25:30.68\00:25:33.78 heard of Jesus Christ or not. Now I'm gonna, 00:25:33.79\00:25:36.50 I'm gonna, I'm gonna piggy back on what 00:25:36.51\00:25:37.53 you said. I'm gonna tell you something else from 00:25:37.54\00:25:39.06 Romans 2 verse 14. Okay. Romans 2:14. 00:25:39.07\00:25:42.40 For when Gentiles who do not have the law, 00:25:42.41\00:25:45.86 by nature do the things in the law. 00:25:45.87\00:25:49.28 These although not having the law are a law 00:25:49.29\00:25:52.35 to themselves. Who show the work of the law 00:25:52.36\00:25:55.66 written in their hearts. Their conscience 00:25:55.67\00:25:58.32 also bearing witness and between themselves 00:25:58.33\00:26:01.04 their thoughts accusing or else excusing 00:26:01.05\00:26:03.64 them in the day when God will judge 00:26:03.65\00:26:06.26 the secretes of men by Jesus Christ 00:26:06.27\00:26:08.17 according to my gospel. So there are those 00:26:08.18\00:26:11.19 who don't have the law, who don't have 00:26:11.20\00:26:14.30 all the things that the Jews have, 00:26:14.31\00:26:16.30 the oracles of God, the ceremonial laws, 00:26:16.31\00:26:18.78 the things that drove them to Christ. 00:26:18.79\00:26:20.32 Yet they obey the things of the Lord, 00:26:20.33\00:26:23.19 because it's in their hearts. And you see 00:26:23.20\00:26:25.44 they are lost because they didn't hear 00:26:25.45\00:26:27.91 about the law, but they're obeying it. 00:26:27.92\00:26:29.52 No, no. Yeah that's where the text to whom 00:26:29.53\00:26:33.22 much is given, much is required. Yeah. 00:26:33.23\00:26:36.12 And you also find in First Peter 3 00:26:36.13\00:26:38.65 and I don't want to, I may open another 00:26:38.66\00:26:41.24 can of worms here, but the gospel 00:26:41.25\00:26:43.50 was also preached in Old Testament times. 00:26:43.51\00:26:45.89 Those who perished in the flood, 00:26:45.90\00:26:48.45 the gospel was preached to them. 00:26:48.46\00:26:51.41 And the gospel was before the Cross, 00:26:51.42\00:26:54.06 notice that the gospel, the good news 00:26:54.07\00:26:56.47 that simple word gospel means the good news. 00:26:56.48\00:26:59.32 There was good news before the Cross, 00:26:59.33\00:27:01.21 but that good news was, was pertinent, 00:27:01.22\00:27:04.29 was subject to the Cross, you see 00:27:04.30\00:27:07.16 they look to the coming Messiah, 00:27:07.17\00:27:08.91 now we look back to the Messiah who came. 00:27:08.92\00:27:12.35 So the Cross is the central focus of it all. 00:27:12.36\00:27:14.78 And First Peter 3 and verse 18 talks about 00:27:14.79\00:27:18.10 it this way, For Christ also suffered 00:27:18.11\00:27:20.56 once for sins, the just for the unjust 00:27:20.57\00:27:23.91 that he might bring us to God. 00:27:23.92\00:27:25.86 Being put to death in the flesh, 00:27:25.87\00:27:28.16 but made alive by the Spirit. 00:27:28.17\00:27:30.23 By whom he also went and preached to spirits 00:27:30.24\00:27:33.94 in prison, who formally were disobedient 00:27:33.95\00:27:37.11 when once the divine long suffering waited 00:27:37.12\00:27:40.25 in the days of Noah, while the Ark was being 00:27:40.26\00:27:42.81 prepared. So what happen is those spirits, 00:27:42.82\00:27:45.95 those who are once in prison in the past, 00:27:45.96\00:27:48.94 in the prison house of sin that's what 00:27:48.95\00:27:51.15 the reference is being made to. 00:27:51.16\00:27:52.61 The Lord through the same Holy Spirit 00:27:52.62\00:27:54.39 preached to them. That's right. 00:27:54.40\00:27:56.73 So the spirit of God has never been inactive, 00:27:56.74\00:27:59.39 but we can go down many, many more roads, 00:27:59.40\00:28:02.48 but I don't, when it comes to this. 00:28:02.49\00:28:05.16 I think that's, that's a particular application 00:28:05.17\00:28:07.88 rather than a broad statement saying that 00:28:07.89\00:28:09.92 people will never have heard the gospel 00:28:09.93\00:28:11.89 in any age. But not heard the gospel 00:28:11.90\00:28:14.32 as it pertains the way that the apostles 00:28:14.33\00:28:16.26 preached in the New Testament times. 00:28:16.27\00:28:18.05 Right, right. Anyway we have. 00:28:18.06\00:28:20.60 Actually a good transition 00:28:20.61\00:28:21.58 to our topic too. Matter of fact its good. 00:28:21.59\00:28:24.45 Because you're talking about the shadows, 00:28:24.46\00:28:25.76 you know back then being preached to, 00:28:25.77\00:28:27.59 they were being preached the gospel, 00:28:27.60\00:28:29.35 but Jesus had not come. That's right. 00:28:29.36\00:28:31.57 But there was something in place back 00:28:31.58\00:28:33.18 then that pointed them to Jesus who would come. 00:28:33.19\00:28:36.17 And that's what we really wanna talk about 00:28:36.18\00:28:38.54 today are the shadows of the past, 00:28:38.55\00:28:42.69 of the Old Testament that pointed to Jesus, 00:28:42.70\00:28:44.98 the Messiah who would come and fulfill 00:28:44.99\00:28:47.20 all those things being the reality, 00:28:47.21\00:28:49.90 not the shadow, but the reality. 00:28:49.91\00:28:51.48 John, you and I, we're both looking forward to, 00:28:51.49\00:28:55.24 I'm sure the Sun. The warmth of the Sun. 00:28:55.25\00:28:57.69 There is no, nothing like a warm nice 00:28:57.70\00:28:59.02 sunny day. We're coming off the hills of some 00:28:59.03\00:29:01.89 cold winter weather and I can't wait for that. 00:29:01.90\00:29:04.25 But one of the things that Sun brings 00:29:04.26\00:29:05.59 are shadows. Yeah. So you're walking down 00:29:05.60\00:29:08.49 the street and you look and you see your shadow. 00:29:08.50\00:29:10.10 Now if you're a young kid remember you used 00:29:10.11\00:29:11.77 to like to try and step on shadows 00:29:11.78\00:29:13.14 and having fun with those shadows. 00:29:13.15\00:29:14.38 But when you step on and you don't feel 00:29:14.39\00:29:16.56 anything different. Right. Okay, 00:29:16.57\00:29:18.15 it's just an image or a little picture of what 00:29:18.16\00:29:20.97 the real is. And so the Bible does talk about 00:29:20.98\00:29:25.09 shadows and the reality. And the Old Testament 00:29:25.10\00:29:29.18 has a lot to do with shadows and pointing 00:29:29.19\00:29:31.43 to Jesus who was the reality. 00:29:31.44\00:29:32.92 And I think today and many of you out there 00:29:32.93\00:29:36.58 may have heard this from your Pastors 00:29:36.59\00:29:38.22 or from your churches that you attend, 00:29:38.23\00:29:39.92 this teaching that somehow the shadows 00:29:40.50\00:29:43.46 of the past not only are removed or obsolete, 00:29:43.47\00:29:49.25 they're in the past only, but you've heard 00:29:49.36\00:29:51.53 that they are so done away with, 00:29:51.54\00:29:52.78 that they have no application 00:29:52.79\00:29:54.13 for the future. And this we would like to debunk 00:29:54.14\00:29:57.49 today that shadows were there to teach us 00:29:57.50\00:30:01.24 something. They teach them something, 00:30:01.25\00:30:03.76 but also they still teach us something 00:30:03.77\00:30:05.70 today about the ministry of Jesus. 00:30:05.71\00:30:07.56 What he's doing now and also all the other 00:30:07.57\00:30:10.80 doctrines and truths we find in his word, 00:30:10.81\00:30:13.00 how those apply and how they were shadows 00:30:13.01\00:30:15.50 of the past. Many of them pointing 00:30:15.51\00:30:16.96 to the reality of the future as well. 00:30:16.97\00:30:18.39 So John it's an exciting topic, I know that 00:30:18.40\00:30:20.86 you and I really have never talked about 00:30:20.87\00:30:22.31 this in detail on this program, shadows 00:30:22.32\00:30:24.38 and the reality. But I think it's time 00:30:24.39\00:30:26.68 that we do, because this is a very deceptive 00:30:26.69\00:30:29.57 twist on the scripture that if we don't, 00:30:29.58\00:30:33.03 if one doesn't get the difference between 00:30:33.04\00:30:36.26 the shadows and the reality 00:30:36.27\00:30:37.48 and how that all works. I think they can be 00:30:37.49\00:30:39.58 led down a path that is error, filled with error 00:30:39.59\00:30:43.17 and see that there are things that apply today, 00:30:43.18\00:30:45.52 that are very important in our spiritual life 00:30:45.53\00:30:47.46 as Christians that we can completely eliminate 00:30:47.47\00:30:49.99 and just, and get rid off just 00:30:50.00\00:30:52.18 by the mere fact that we think well they're 00:30:52.19\00:30:54.14 Old Testament teachings and they don't apply 00:30:54.15\00:30:56.25 to today, but in fact they do. 00:30:56.26\00:30:57.80 They do apply to today and as we transition 00:30:57.81\00:31:00.62 to that very important part, don't forget 00:31:00.63\00:31:02.28 if you have any Bible questions 00:31:02.29\00:31:03.38 and we have talked about a lot today. 00:31:03.39\00:31:04.77 If you have any Bible questions that 00:31:04.78\00:31:06.62 you like to submit to us send them 00:31:06.63\00:31:08.00 to housecalls@3abn.org that's 00:31:08.01\00:31:10.90 housecalls@3abn.org and once again 00:31:10.91\00:31:14.40 we will make our best attempt by God's leading 00:31:14.41\00:31:16.60 Holy Spirit to answer those questions. 00:31:16.61\00:31:18.30 The text I wanna begin with today John 00:31:18.31\00:31:20.84 is a text that people have sighted, 00:31:20.85\00:31:22.81 you know there are, there are darling texts, 00:31:22.82\00:31:26.57 there are, there are favorite texts 00:31:26.58\00:31:30.79 in various denominations that people use to 00:31:30.80\00:31:35.66 buttress their beliefs or to prove their point. 00:31:35.67\00:31:39.31 This one verse has, has been so unjustly 00:31:39.32\00:31:43.70 accused of getting rid of what it never got rid 00:31:43.71\00:31:46.95 of that we want to begin with this today. 00:31:46.96\00:31:49.93 Yeah. Now let I'm gonna say that again. 00:31:49.94\00:31:51.81 This text has been so unjustly accused 00:31:51.82\00:31:54.36 and misused and pointed to as the culprit 00:31:54.37\00:32:00.64 as the one who had in these words. 00:32:00.65\00:32:03.42 These are the words often used to make it 00:32:03.43\00:32:06.33 appear though the thing that we're gonna refer 00:32:06.34\00:32:08.69 to is none void and done away with it never 00:32:08.70\00:32:11.29 to rise again. And I'm gonna go ahead, 00:32:11.30\00:32:13.34 have you read that John. We're gonna turn 00:32:13.35\00:32:16.45 to Colossians 2 and we are gonna go from 00:32:16.46\00:32:20.05 verse 14 down to verse 17, but if you want 00:32:20.06\00:32:24.49 to get the context of it. If you read 00:32:24.50\00:32:26.80 the earlier verses and maybe we should do 00:32:26.81\00:32:28.89 this John because. I think we should start 00:32:28.90\00:32:32.03 with 13, you pick up a good bit of the context 00:32:32.04\00:32:34.16 there anyway. Yeah right, that 00:32:34.17\00:32:35.68 matter of fact I was gonna go to 11, but 00:32:35.69\00:32:37.59 13 will be fine because we know. 00:32:37.60\00:32:40.01 13 I think pulls the whole picture together 00:32:40.02\00:32:42.10 very well. Pointing out what the content 00:32:42.11\00:32:46.26 and the context of this whole passage is about. 00:32:46.27\00:32:50.78 So John start with us, start by 00:32:50.79\00:32:53.75 reading verse 13. Colossians 2 beginning 00:32:53.76\00:32:55.66 with verse 13, verse 13 yeah. 00:32:55.67\00:32:57.31 And you, being dead in your trespasses 00:32:57.32\00:33:00.26 and this uncircumcision of your flesh. 00:33:00.27\00:33:03.08 He has made alive together with him, 00:33:03.09\00:33:06.12 having forgiven you all trespasses. 00:33:06.13\00:33:08.88 That's good news. Right. We were once dead 00:33:08.89\00:33:10.99 and our trespass is down, He's forgiven us 00:33:11.00\00:33:12.70 and made us alive and having forgiven us. 00:33:12.71\00:33:15.39 Having also, verse 14, having wiped out 00:33:15.40\00:33:19.13 the handwriting of requirements that was 00:33:19.14\00:33:21.43 against us, which was contrary to us. 00:33:21.44\00:33:24.49 And he has taken it out of the way having 00:33:24.50\00:33:27.49 nailed it to the cross. Having disarmed 00:33:27.50\00:33:31.56 principalities and the powers, 00:33:31.57\00:33:32.99 He made a public spectacle of them 00:33:33.00\00:33:35.25 triumphing over them in it. 00:33:35.26\00:33:37.15 So let no one judge you in food, 00:33:37.16\00:33:39.79 or in drink, or in regarding a festival, 00:33:39.80\00:33:41.85 or a new moon or a Sabbath, 00:33:41.86\00:33:43.28 which are a shadow of the things to come; 00:33:43.29\00:33:45.49 but the substance is of Christ. 00:33:45.50\00:33:47.84 Now what I want to do also, because the verse 00:33:49.62\00:33:52.52 that we just read I'm gonna go and turn 00:33:52.53\00:33:54.91 to it here in my, I gonna use my computer. 00:33:54.92\00:33:57.51 I don't want you guys to think I'm sneaking up 00:33:57.52\00:34:00.06 on you, but I wanna go ahead and look at verse 00:34:00.07\00:34:02.99 the same thing again in the King James Version. 00:34:03.00\00:34:07.15 This is the one often used. 00:34:07.16\00:34:08.74 The New King James Version is very clear, 00:34:08.75\00:34:12.11 but the version that is often used is used 00:34:12.12\00:34:15.72 to give strength to the argument, 00:34:15.73\00:34:18.43 so let me read that again. Just verse 14 00:34:18.44\00:34:20.21 and there is a particular word 00:34:20.22\00:34:23.64 in verse 14 that if you, if you exclude 00:34:23.65\00:34:26.45 this word it begins to loose the context, 00:34:26.46\00:34:30.39 but listen how it reads in the 00:34:30.40\00:34:32.42 King James Version. Blotting out 00:34:32.43\00:34:34.78 the handwriting of ordinances that was 00:34:34.79\00:34:38.47 against us, which was contrary to us, 00:34:38.48\00:34:41.83 and took it out of the way, 00:34:41.84\00:34:43.69 nailing it to the cross. And I'm gonna just go 00:34:43.70\00:34:48.64 to verse 16, because it uses the two verses. 00:34:48.65\00:34:50.53 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, 00:34:50.54\00:34:53.61 or in drink, or in respect of a Holy day, 00:34:53.62\00:34:57.70 or of the new moon, or of the Sabbath days. 00:34:57.71\00:35:01.46 Now you notice, it's referred to as Sabbaths 00:35:01.47\00:35:05.00 in the New King James Version and Sabbath days 00:35:05.01\00:35:09.47 the word days was added by the translators 00:35:09.48\00:35:12.21 to show that it was more than one. Right. 00:35:12.22\00:35:14.99 Sabbaths, and so let me go ahead 00:35:15.00\00:35:18.54 and give you my thesis right here or my, 00:35:18.55\00:35:20.64 my yeah I'll use the word thesis that's gonna 00:35:20.65\00:35:22.77 sounds good. People often use this verse 00:35:22.78\00:35:25.21 to say that the Sabbath of creation the 00:35:25.22\00:35:29.84 Seventh-day Sabbath is no longer in affect, 00:35:29.85\00:35:33.30 because it was a shadow. Now lets go ahead 00:35:33.31\00:35:37.25 and for a brief moment and John we could 00:35:37.26\00:35:39.19 jump back and forth on this, 00:35:39.20\00:35:40.80 I want us both to register on this before 00:35:40.81\00:35:42.44 we get into the Bible texts. And then 00:35:42.45\00:35:44.74 after this we gonna go to Ephesians 2 00:35:44.75\00:35:46.64 and look at this very same application, 00:35:46.65\00:35:49.47 Paul said to the Colossians as well as 00:35:49.48\00:35:52.18 to the Ephesians the very same passage. 00:35:52.19\00:35:54.59 We emphasize at both times. And the word I 00:35:54.60\00:35:56.96 want you to catch is the phrase or the word 00:35:56.97\00:36:01.24 ordinances. We're gonna look at ordinances 00:36:01.25\00:36:04.07 and we're gonna look at how they applied to, 00:36:04.08\00:36:06.20 how they were against us, how they became 00:36:06.21\00:36:10.65 contrary to us. Now here is my spiel. 00:36:10.66\00:36:13.66 The Sabbath that was created at the end 00:36:13.67\00:36:18.56 of creation it was created before the sin. 00:36:18.57\00:36:20.81 Just like the marriage institution was created 00:36:20.82\00:36:23.84 before the sin. Two things God established 00:36:23.85\00:36:26.85 in the very beginning was the Sabbath, 00:36:26.86\00:36:28.37 husband and wife and the, sorry the 00:36:28.38\00:36:33.91 marriage institution, husband and wife 00:36:33.92\00:36:35.95 and the Sabbath. Husband in heaven and wife 00:36:35.96\00:36:39.82 on earth okay. So you need to look at both 00:36:39.83\00:36:42.53 of those as husband and wife institutions 00:36:42.54\00:36:44.20 and both of them the marriage on earth 00:36:44.21\00:36:47.06 is a sign between man and woman that God 00:36:47.07\00:36:49.77 has sanctified them. Follow me carefully. 00:36:49.78\00:36:51.72 And the Seventh-day Sabbath is a sign 00:36:51.73\00:36:55.68 between God in heaven and man on earth 00:36:55.69\00:36:58.40 that we are sanctified. I don't know 00:36:58.41\00:36:59.98 if you ever caught that before, 00:36:59.99\00:37:01.12 both are symbols of sanctification and both, 00:37:01.13\00:37:04.24 the man and the woman were sanctified before 00:37:04.25\00:37:09.06 sin by the marriage institution and humanity 00:37:09.07\00:37:13.30 is continually sanctified by its 00:37:13.31\00:37:15.65 observance of the Seventh-day Sabbath. 00:37:15.66\00:37:18.40 Both of those things established before 00:37:18.41\00:37:21.05 the sin. Right. Let me let you register on that 00:37:21.06\00:37:22.72 before we go any further. No, I think, 00:37:22.73\00:37:24.35 I think you've said it very clear. 00:37:24.36\00:37:25.83 There's nothing, there is no problem 00:37:25.84\00:37:27.64 with the Seventh-day Sabbath or with 00:37:27.65\00:37:30.09 marriage, because there was no problem 00:37:30.10\00:37:32.57 at the time anyway, there was no sin. 00:37:32.58\00:37:34.20 Okay, so now has marriage been done 00:37:34.21\00:37:35.99 away with? No. Has they be an attempt 00:37:36.00\00:37:39.25 to redefine marriage? Absolutely, okay. 00:37:39.26\00:37:41.07 Has the Seventh-day Sabbath be done 00:37:41.08\00:37:43.70 away with? No. Has they been in an attempt 00:37:43.71\00:37:45.59 to redefine it? Yes, okay. Somewhat 00:37:45.60\00:37:47.75 successfully. Very, very successfully in both 00:37:47.76\00:37:50.95 cases there is a pushing for many laws 00:37:50.96\00:37:53.73 and props this and prop that to redefine 00:37:53.74\00:37:58.54 marriage and they say well as long you love 00:37:58.55\00:38:00.09 somebody that's all that matters. 00:38:00.10\00:38:01.23 That's not God's economy. God established 00:38:01.24\00:38:03.79 and I say this unapologetically, 00:38:03.80\00:38:05.69 but scripturally God established marriage 00:38:05.70\00:38:07.70 should be between a man and a woman. 00:38:07.71\00:38:09.34 And just because I love somebody 00:38:09.35\00:38:12.16 of the same sex does not negate 00:38:12.17\00:38:14.77 God's requirements. That's right. 00:38:14.78\00:38:16.70 You can't modify that and say it's based 00:38:16.71\00:38:19.83 on love. It's based on the image of God 00:38:19.84\00:38:21.13 and the human race. Not based on the word 00:38:21.14\00:38:23.50 love which is in fact love is God 00:38:23.51\00:38:25.40 and God is love. But it's based on 00:38:25.41\00:38:26.80 completing the image of God and the human race. 00:38:26.81\00:38:29.00 Any attack on the marriage institution 00:38:29.01\00:38:31.10 the way that God established 00:38:31.11\00:38:32.14 it is an attack on God's image. That's right. 00:38:32.15\00:38:35.20 In the human race, in the same way 00:38:35.21\00:38:37.16 the marriage being a sign of God's divinity 00:38:37.17\00:38:40.75 the Seventh-day Sabbath is a sign 00:38:40.76\00:38:43.04 of his divinity also. Once again saying 00:38:43.05\00:38:45.83 the text to the divinity of Christ through 00:38:45.84\00:38:47.18 both of those institutions. 00:38:47.19\00:38:48.23 And so John, let me you register 00:38:48.24\00:38:51.50 because I could keep going on here 00:38:51.51\00:38:52.79 and I wanna, I wanna regroup by going 00:38:52.80\00:38:54.83 to the Ephesians 2 here and then 00:38:54.84\00:38:56.44 talking about ordinance. Okay, to back up 00:38:56.45\00:38:59.78 and give context to all of Paul's writing. 00:38:59.79\00:39:01.80 Right. Because I think we need to do that. 00:39:01.81\00:39:04.03 Paul, the apostle of the Gentiles he's spoken of 00:39:04.04\00:39:07.94 sometimes. Was dealing with the early church 00:39:07.95\00:39:11.03 that was made up of Jews and Gentiles. 00:39:11.04\00:39:13.67 Both completely different backgrounds 00:39:14.87\00:39:16.96 and there was this constant debate, 00:39:16.97\00:39:19.48 this is constant struggle for control 00:39:19.49\00:39:22.33 or superiority or whatever it maybe 00:39:22.34\00:39:25.01 between the Jews and Gentiles, 00:39:25.02\00:39:27.02 because the Jews thought that, 00:39:27.03\00:39:28.85 many of those things that they have always 00:39:28.86\00:39:30.59 done as shadows. Were still applicable 00:39:30.60\00:39:35.11 in the church. And those are the things 00:39:35.12\00:39:36.73 that we mentioned here in verse 16, foods 00:39:36.74\00:39:40.97 and you've eaten, drinks, drink, food 00:39:40.98\00:39:43.36 and drink offering and you have got 00:39:43.37\00:39:44.67 the festivals that you observe 00:39:44.68\00:39:46.09 and the new moons and Sabbath, 00:39:46.10\00:39:47.37 those things they continually try to bring 00:39:47.38\00:39:50.95 into the church and keep their established. 00:39:50.96\00:39:53.21 And Paul, in writing this was saying is not 00:39:53.22\00:39:56.79 about that anymore. It's not about that 00:39:56.80\00:39:59.35 and he has really writing to many of the 00:39:59.36\00:40:01.23 Jews in the church that were being very 00:40:01.24\00:40:02.93 dogmatic about this. You ever met somebody 00:40:02.94\00:40:04.96 dogmatic, I used to be dogmatic. 00:40:04.97\00:40:07.81 Win the argument, it doesn't matter 00:40:07.82\00:40:10.56 if you win the friendship, win the 00:40:10.57\00:40:12.01 argument you know and hammer it as well as 00:40:12.02\00:40:15.64 you can and you're good. And I think many 00:40:15.65\00:40:18.90 to a great degree the teachers of the law 00:40:18.91\00:40:21.23 and those that were now part of the early church 00:40:21.24\00:40:23.67 were trying to keep these things going 00:40:23.68\00:40:26.01 forward in the new covenant era 00:40:26.02\00:40:28.04 of the early church. And so Paul here is writing 00:40:28.05\00:40:31.74 on that. He is saying no, no, no, 00:40:31.75\00:40:34.73 those pointing to Christ and we're gonna get 00:40:34.74\00:40:36.98 to Colossians. Colossians talks a lot 00:40:36.99\00:40:38.70 about this. Right. Those pointing to Christ 00:40:38.71\00:40:41.66 leading us to Christ and his ministry 00:40:41.67\00:40:43.90 and once Christ is here those aren't important 00:40:43.91\00:40:46.81 anymore. Right. But what we will find 00:40:46.82\00:40:49.22 as we do a little further digging 00:40:49.23\00:40:50.74 in this passage here is that we're not talking 00:40:50.75\00:40:53.65 about the moral law of God. 00:40:53.66\00:40:55.38 The Ten Commandment law of God, 00:40:55.39\00:40:56.99 because that was never called a shadow. 00:40:57.00\00:40:58.60 But we are talking about the ceremonial law 00:40:58.61\00:41:02.59 that was given through the written 00:41:02.60\00:41:04.77 law of Moses. And so I will bring one thing 00:41:04.78\00:41:08.19 as we transition one text. Okay. 00:41:08.20\00:41:10.31 I will bring here to the plate, 00:41:10.32\00:41:11.29 to the table. Many more but just go ahead. 00:41:11.30\00:41:13.03 Many more but here is one that we can kind 00:41:13.04\00:41:14.21 of spring board from and I'm reading from 00:41:14.22\00:41:16.01 Deuteronomy chapter 31. Okay 00:41:16.02\00:41:18.22 Deuteronomy chapter 31. And this is beginning 00:41:18.23\00:41:19.96 with verse 24. So it was when Moses had 00:41:19.97\00:41:25.82 completed writing the words of this law 00:41:25.83\00:41:28.43 in a book, when they were finished that 00:41:28.44\00:41:31.81 Moses commanded the Levites, 00:41:31.82\00:41:33.53 who bore the Ark of the Covenant of the Lord 00:41:33.54\00:41:35.11 saying: Take this Book of the Law, 00:41:35.12\00:41:38.23 put it beside the Ark of the Covenant of the Lord 00:41:38.24\00:41:42.05 your God, that it maybe there as a witness 00:41:42.06\00:41:44.19 against you. Okay. So now remember in the 00:41:44.20\00:41:49.95 ark of the covenant, the law of God written 00:41:49.96\00:41:53.13 by God's own finger on tablets of stone was 00:41:53.14\00:41:56.66 put inside. On the inside. Inside 00:41:56.67\00:41:59.96 of the ark and the mercy seat was close over it. 00:41:59.97\00:42:02.59 This law, notice it says, this law. 00:42:02.60\00:42:06.37 It's a different law John. It's a different 00:42:06.38\00:42:08.84 law Moses was instructed by God 00:42:08.85\00:42:11.68 and he is instructing the Levites 00:42:11.69\00:42:12.94 to put it beside the Ark of the covenant. 00:42:12.95\00:42:15.35 That was Deuteronomy what? Deuteronomy 00:42:15.36\00:42:17.46 31, 24 to 26. It wasn't to go inside. 00:42:17.47\00:42:21.18 It was a law yes, but it was to go beside the Ark 00:42:21.19\00:42:24.85 of the covenant. Not in the inside, 00:42:24.86\00:42:26.08 because it did not have the place that 00:42:26.09\00:42:28.77 the Decalogue. The moral law God had. 00:42:28.78\00:42:31.69 And dec means how many. Ten, ten 00:42:31.70\00:42:33.92 that's what we call the Decalogue. 00:42:33.93\00:42:35.46 So it did not have that kind of place 00:42:35.47\00:42:38.20 in position, because why? Because 00:42:38.21\00:42:41.65 it was a witness against them. That's right. 00:42:41.66\00:42:44.41 Because of their sins. That's right. 00:42:44.42\00:42:46.36 And not only it was a witness, 00:42:46.37\00:42:48.65 that word witness there is a very interesting 00:42:48.66\00:42:50.59 word. It means it was a testimony against them. 00:42:50.60\00:42:54.92 It told them that they needed a savior. 00:42:54.93\00:42:58.67 It told them, they needed redemption 00:42:58.68\00:43:00.80 and that the redemption could only come outside 00:43:00.81\00:43:03.76 of their own works. But no matter 00:43:03.77\00:43:06.47 what they can do. And this image is just 00:43:06.48\00:43:09.90 coming to mind I'm getting excited 00:43:09.91\00:43:10.88 now John. Okay you go ahead. 00:43:10.89\00:43:12.39 No matter what they can do, 00:43:12.40\00:43:14.07 they couldn't take the observation of this law 00:43:14.08\00:43:16.90 on the outside and get themselves on the inside 00:43:16.91\00:43:19.86 of the ark. In harmony with the 00:43:19.87\00:43:22.29 Ten Commandment law of God. Right. 00:43:22.30\00:43:23.99 There was always gonna be an outside 00:43:24.00\00:43:25.52 observance, but still it pointed them 00:43:25.53\00:43:28.30 to what God wanted ultimately 00:43:28.31\00:43:30.20 for their lives on the inside the Ark of, 00:43:30.21\00:43:34.36 or the Ark containing the Decalogue, 00:43:34.37\00:43:36.22 the Ten Commandments of God. Right. 00:43:36.23\00:43:38.26 And so here we are finding I think 00:43:38.27\00:43:40.08 in this text John clearly diminution 00:43:40.09\00:43:42.06 between two laws one on the inside 00:43:42.07\00:43:45.01 the Ten Commandments which God wrote 00:43:45.02\00:43:46.47 with his own finger and one on the outside 00:43:46.48\00:43:48.79 that was placed the only temporary as a witness 00:43:48.80\00:43:50.70 against them by Moses himself 00:43:50.71\00:43:53.21 not to be placed inside the Ark. 00:43:53.22\00:43:55.53 And do you know what I also like to add to that 00:43:55.54\00:43:57.18 John and that's a very powerful point friends 00:43:57.19\00:43:58.98 don't miss that, the ceremonial laws 00:43:58.99\00:44:01.79 which were written in a book and they were 00:44:01.80\00:44:05.79 referred to as the Torah the Pentateuch, 00:44:05.80\00:44:08.42 first five books of the Bible, the Torah 00:44:08.43\00:44:10.28 and these were about 640 laws 00:44:10.29\00:44:13.41 and you'll find them in Exodus, Leviticus, 00:44:13.42\00:44:17.96 Numbers and Deuteronomy. You will find them 00:44:17.97\00:44:20.63 in those books all the specifics 00:44:20.64\00:44:22.78 and we're gonna make some, we're gonna make 00:44:22.79\00:44:23.94 some references to that and not just 00:44:23.95\00:44:25.22 this program, but we're gonna work on another 00:44:25.23\00:44:26.62 program with this, helping you understand 00:44:26.63\00:44:28.35 the shadows, because a lot of times people say, 00:44:28.36\00:44:29.92 well the Sabbath of the fourth commandment 00:44:29.93\00:44:33.19 it was a shadow, we don't keep that anymore 00:44:33.20\00:44:36.20 although we keep the Ten Commandments, 00:44:36.21\00:44:38.28 but we don't keep the Sabbath. 00:44:38.29\00:44:40.60 You know the funny thing about that John 00:44:40.61\00:44:42.24 and let me use this illustration. 00:44:42.25\00:44:43.41 And by the way before I even use 00:44:43.42\00:44:45.19 the illustration, I'm gonna go 00:44:45.20\00:44:46.51 and read a text that shows the difference 00:44:46.52\00:44:48.68 between what John read in Deuteronomy 31 00:44:48.69\00:44:51.18 verse 24 to 26. And what the Bible says 00:44:51.19\00:44:54.46 about the Ten Commandments. 00:44:54.47\00:44:55.81 The other writing of them in the book of 00:44:55.82\00:44:58.81 Deuteronomy chapter 5 and listen to what 00:44:58.82\00:45:00.43 the Lord says in verse 22. After the 00:45:00.44\00:45:03.93 Ten Commandments are written all ten of them. 00:45:03.94\00:45:05.82 It's in Exodus 20 and Deuteronomy chapter 5 00:45:05.83\00:45:08.18 listen to it what it said in verse 22. 00:45:08.19\00:45:11.07 These words the Lord spoke to all 00:45:11.08\00:45:14.11 your assembly in the mountain from the midst 00:45:14.12\00:45:18.38 of the fire, the cloud and the thick darkness 00:45:18.39\00:45:21.14 with a loud voice: and follow these next 00:45:21.15\00:45:24.36 five words and He added no more. 00:45:24.37\00:45:28.28 Ten Commandments and he added no more. 00:45:28.29\00:45:33.33 Do you mean all those inquiry things 00:45:33.34\00:45:35.33 I go through line at the grocery store 00:45:35.34\00:45:37.01 that says they found another three or five 00:45:37.02\00:45:38.99 or eight commandments that can't be true. 00:45:39.00\00:45:40.76 And not only, terrible. But listen 00:45:40.77\00:45:43.55 what it goes on to, it only says and he added 00:45:43.56\00:45:47.24 no more in verse 22. But it goes on to say, 00:45:47.25\00:45:49.72 and he wrote them on two tablets of stone 00:45:49.73\00:45:54.20 and gave them to me. That is to Moses. Yes. 00:45:54.21\00:45:57.19 He wrote them on two tablets of stone. 00:45:57.20\00:45:59.30 Stone tablets, not in a book. That's right. 00:45:59.31\00:46:03.26 Only ten, he added no more. 00:46:03.27\00:46:05.43 So you clearly see two, two different laws 00:46:05.44\00:46:08.83 here. But I wanna also show that the 00:46:08.84\00:46:11.81 ceremonial law was added, because the 00:46:11.82\00:46:15.61 moral law was violated. Galatians 3:19 00:46:15.62\00:46:20.15 John read that for us. Galatians 3:19, 00:46:20.16\00:46:23.26 now we have to define something here, 00:46:23.27\00:46:25.53 First John chapter 3 verse 4 and 5. 00:46:26.52\00:46:30.28 The Bible makes it very clear that sin is 00:46:30.29\00:46:32.13 the transgression of the law. 00:46:32.14\00:46:33.75 Sin is the transgression of violation of the law. 00:46:33.76\00:46:36.70 When the law of God the Ten Commandments 00:46:36.71\00:46:38.51 were violated, that was from the very beginning 00:46:38.52\00:46:41.32 when Adam and Eve sinned, the commandments 00:46:41.33\00:46:43.71 of God were violated. When Cain killed Abel 00:46:43.72\00:46:46.65 the commandments were violated, 00:46:46.66\00:46:48.24 so he added now another system of types, 00:46:48.25\00:46:52.63 of washings, of ordinances, 00:46:52.64\00:46:55.55 of ceremonies of, ceremonial Sabbaths, 00:46:55.56\00:46:58.31 many Sabbaths to lead them back to Christ. 00:46:58.32\00:47:02.62 But going to read Galatians. 00:47:03.96\00:47:05.28 And lead them into harmony with the law 00:47:05.29\00:47:07.29 that was broken that's thing. Harmony with it. 00:47:07.30\00:47:09.64 Right, right. And so I'm reading from 00:47:09.65\00:47:11.74 Galatians 3 verse 19, what purpose then does 00:47:11.75\00:47:14.78 the law serve. It was added because of 00:47:14.79\00:47:17.85 transgressions. Till the Seed that is capital 00:47:17.86\00:47:22.00 Seed Jesus should come to whom the promise 00:47:22.01\00:47:27.04 was made. Okay. And it was appointed 00:47:27.05\00:47:29.27 through angels by the hand of the mediator. 00:47:29.28\00:47:31.94 Okay, it was appointed to angels by the hand 00:47:31.95\00:47:34.18 of the, the mediator is Christ, but get this, 00:47:34.19\00:47:36.39 it was added and follow this till the seed. 00:47:36.40\00:47:40.07 Added came inn, till the seed go out. 00:47:40.08\00:47:44.40 It had a time flame, it had a time period. 00:47:44.41\00:47:46.66 It was a time line. It was added. 00:47:46.67\00:47:48.64 But when something is added, it comes out 00:47:48.65\00:47:50.38 a particular time. It comes in after until, 00:47:50.39\00:47:53.61 it has an ending point. I'll be coming 00:47:53.62\00:47:57.49 to your house, added to the company 00:47:57.50\00:47:59.17 until 5 O'clock tomorrow evening, 00:47:59.18\00:48:01.32 then I'm gonna leave. Have a time flame. 00:48:01.33\00:48:03.32 And so clearly this law had a time flame 00:48:03.33\00:48:05.39 and to show you when John read Colossians 2 00:48:05.40\00:48:08.36 he began with verse 13 that brought in the word 00:48:08.37\00:48:11.42 circumcision, uncircumcision, 00:48:11.43\00:48:14.37 but lets see what Paul says here in 00:48:14.38\00:48:16.96 First Corinthian 7:19 then I'm gonna use 00:48:16.97\00:48:19.86 the illustration that was so clearly 00:48:19.87\00:48:21.94 pointed out, blotting it out, 00:48:21.95\00:48:24.18 taking it out of the way, nailing it 00:48:25.43\00:48:27.89 to the cross, I'm gonna point that out here. 00:48:27.90\00:48:29.30 But listen to what Paul says in 00:48:29.31\00:48:30.86 First Corinthian 7:19 circumcision is nothing, 00:48:30.87\00:48:35.08 that was the part of the ceremonial law. 00:48:35.09\00:48:37.30 You will read the Ten Commandments 00:48:37.31\00:48:38.58 and you will not find anything about 00:48:38.59\00:48:40.41 circumcision. Circumcision is nothing, 00:48:40.42\00:48:43.22 and uncircumcision is nothing, 00:48:43.23\00:48:45.35 but keeping of the commandments of God 00:48:45.36\00:48:47.77 is what matters. Here we go. 00:48:47.78\00:48:50.02 Notice circumcision, ceremonial law, 00:48:50.03\00:48:52.87 uncircumcision doesn't really matter. 00:48:52.88\00:48:54.67 Wait now, Paul wrote that? Paul wrote that. 00:48:54.68\00:48:56.87 So he will be contradicting himself. 00:48:56.88\00:48:58.72 Right. If he did in fact mean that the 00:48:58.73\00:49:01.09 Ten Commandments were done away with in 00:49:01.10\00:49:02.67 Colossians 2 Right. So it can't mean 00:49:02.68\00:49:04.95 that the Ten Commandments were 00:49:04.96\00:49:05.93 done away it. No, he couldn't mean that. 00:49:05.94\00:49:07.74 Not at all. He referred to it as a handwriting 00:49:07.75\00:49:11.04 of ordinances. And we gonna talk about 00:49:11.05\00:49:12.52 those ordinances in just a moment, 00:49:12.53\00:49:13.67 but now how many commandments 00:49:13.68\00:49:14.92 are there John? There are ten. 00:49:14.93\00:49:16.44 Okay now watch this. I'm gonna use my 00:49:16.45\00:49:19.17 phone as an illustration here for just a 00:49:19.18\00:49:20.71 brief moment. Really what kind, 00:49:20.72\00:49:22.64 it doesn't really matter, but each phone 00:49:22.65\00:49:23.92 has 10 digits from one all the way down 00:49:23.93\00:49:26.38 to zero alright. Now I'm gonna use this phone 00:49:26.39\00:49:29.27 in the illustration of the Ten Commandments. 00:49:29.28\00:49:30.86 Ten digits on this phone, but I'm also 00:49:30.87\00:49:33.75 gonna begin by the illustration of this 00:49:33.76\00:49:36.69 being the ceremonial law. That means 00:49:36.70\00:49:39.84 we are by God is communicating with men. 00:49:39.85\00:49:42.30 In Exodus chapter 25 verse 8 and 9 he says, 00:49:42.31\00:49:45.12 let them make a sanctuary that 00:49:45.13\00:49:47.02 I may dwell among them. And the one he made, 00:49:47.03\00:49:49.77 he made it from a pattern shown 00:49:49.78\00:49:51.75 to Moses when he was in the mount. 00:49:52.54\00:49:53.74 The pattern was from an original that exists 00:49:53.75\00:49:55.96 in heaven and we even hear that when Jesus 00:49:55.97\00:49:59.40 sat down on the right hand of his Father 00:49:59.41\00:50:01.23 and the true tabernacle not made with hands, 00:50:01.24\00:50:05.95 that is not of this building. So, you had 00:50:05.96\00:50:08.77 a system put in place and let's refer to this 00:50:08.78\00:50:11.36 phone as a ceremonial system 00:50:11.37\00:50:12.95 and the Lord communicated. 00:50:12.96\00:50:14.70 Now, if John was in Europe and I'm here 00:50:14.71\00:50:16.73 in America and I didn't see him 00:50:16.74\00:50:18.52 the only way I could communicate him, 00:50:18.53\00:50:20.35 with him is through this phone. 00:50:20.36\00:50:21.82 I dial the number John, are you there? 00:50:21.83\00:50:24.34 Yes and everything on this phone enables me 00:50:24.35\00:50:27.42 to communicate to him and him to communicate 00:50:27.43\00:50:29.70 with me, but now while John is sitting right 00:50:29.71\00:50:31.90 in front of me can you imagine the ridiculous 00:50:31.91\00:50:34.94 stupidity of picking up his phone 00:50:34.95\00:50:37.61 and saying John, are you there 00:50:37.62\00:50:38.69 and I'm looking right at him, the phone then 00:50:38.70\00:50:41.93 becomes something that's contrary. 00:50:41.94\00:50:43.82 So, what do I have to do with this thing 00:50:44.37\00:50:46.20 that's contrary is there anything wrong 00:50:46.21\00:50:47.67 with the phone no. But it's contrary, 00:50:47.68\00:50:50.75 so how am I gonna make this broken 00:50:50.76\00:50:53.07 communication an unbroken communication, 00:50:53.08\00:50:55.25 I've got to take this out of the way. 00:50:55.26\00:50:57.11 And so when the Lord came there was no more 00:50:57.12\00:51:00.32 need for the ceremonial system that kept us 00:51:00.33\00:51:03.25 connected with Christ with what he was going 00:51:03.26\00:51:05.87 to eventually do. There was no need for it 00:51:05.88\00:51:08.86 to be in the middle of us any longer 00:51:08.87\00:51:10.64 so the Lord took that out of the way 00:51:10.65\00:51:13.56 and I could have open communication 00:51:14.49\00:51:16.26 with Christ, that middle wall was removed, 00:51:16.27\00:51:18.81 it was taken out of the way, it was a partition 00:51:18.82\00:51:21.45 until Jesus came, that's why John when he died 00:51:21.46\00:51:25.11 you may notice in Matthew that the curtain 00:51:25.12\00:51:27.75 of the temple, what happened to the curtain 00:51:27.76\00:51:29.07 of the temple, tell us. It was torn 00:51:29.08\00:51:30.84 from top to bottom and why? Because it showed 00:51:30.85\00:51:35.21 revealed complete access now to the presence 00:51:35.22\00:51:38.02 of God through Christ sacrifice. 00:51:38.03\00:51:40.05 There was no more avail it was torn into 00:51:40.06\00:51:42.74 and making the two one now, the lamb 00:51:42.75\00:51:47.22 that was on the altar to be sacrifice 00:51:47.23\00:51:49.12 that day was no longer needed to be sacrifice 00:51:49.13\00:51:52.58 because the lamb of God, John 1:29, 00:51:52.59\00:51:55.28 was the one that was sacrifice. 00:51:56.75\00:51:58.08 Which is why Galatians 3 goes on to say 00:51:58.09\00:51:59.87 in verse 23: But before faith came, 00:51:59.88\00:52:02.26 that is speaking of faith through Christ 00:52:02.27\00:52:04.29 in person that's right, we were kept 00:52:04.30\00:52:08.16 under guard by the law, kept for the faith 00:52:08.17\00:52:10.65 which would afterward be revealed. 00:52:10.66\00:52:12.84 Now revealing is, Jesus revealing himself, 00:52:12.85\00:52:15.66 that's right. Therefore the law was our tutor 00:52:15.67\00:52:18.90 to bring us to Christ, that we might be 00:52:18.91\00:52:21.55 justified by faith. But after faith has come, 00:52:21.56\00:52:24.17 we are no longer under a tutor. 00:52:24.18\00:52:26.46 In other words after Jesus came 00:52:26.47\00:52:28.78 we don't need the sacrifice 00:52:28.79\00:52:30.42 of other things, we have the sacrifice 00:52:30.43\00:52:31.84 of Christ we can depend upon by faith, 00:52:31.85\00:52:33.55 there you go. After I show up back 00:52:33.56\00:52:36.32 from Europe you had me on a trip to Europe 00:52:36.33\00:52:38.05 where did I go by the way? I don't know, 00:52:38.06\00:52:39.10 you went to France, that's why 00:52:39.11\00:52:41.00 I came back from France you don't need 00:52:41.01\00:52:43.76 the phone anymore because I could talk 00:52:43.77\00:52:44.88 to you directly as we're talking together 00:52:44.89\00:52:46.34 and that's what this is saying that law 00:52:46.35\00:52:48.28 that ceremonial law was done away with, 00:52:48.29\00:52:51.52 it was done away with. Now, John, I know 00:52:51.53\00:52:54.77 we're gonna continue on with the analogy 00:52:54.78\00:52:56.29 I have here but in Daniel 9 00:52:56.30\00:52:58.70 also has a similar verse where he is pleading 00:52:58.71\00:53:02.44 to God in behalf of his people that's right. 00:53:02.45\00:53:05.59 And he says: "Yes, all Israel has transgressed 00:53:05.60\00:53:09.60 Your law." What verse you reading, 00:53:09.61\00:53:10.58 I'm reading from Daniel 9 verse 11 okay? 00:53:10.59\00:53:12.42 All Israel has transgressed Your law, 00:53:12.43\00:53:15.35 and has departed so as not to obey Your voice; 00:53:15.36\00:53:18.49 therefore the curse and the oath written 00:53:19.58\00:53:23.88 in the Law of Moses, the servant of God, 00:53:23.89\00:53:26.68 have been poured out on us, 00:53:26.69\00:53:27.90 because we have sinned against him. 00:53:27.91\00:53:29.83 See, before it was just the law of God 00:53:29.84\00:53:32.94 but when they transgressed it 00:53:32.95\00:53:34.37 the Law of Moses was added to draw them 00:53:34.38\00:53:38.33 back because of that transgression, 00:53:38.34\00:53:40.37 because of that curse to draw them back to God. 00:53:40.38\00:53:42.46 So, see repeatedly throughout the Bible 00:53:42.47\00:53:44.57 we have many verses it's not one 00:53:44.58\00:53:46.01 we're reading but over and over again 00:53:46.02\00:53:47.81 we see two laws, one bring them to Christ 00:53:47.82\00:53:50.67 and one which they transgressed that God 00:53:50.68\00:53:55.25 wants to bring them back into harmony with, 00:53:55.26\00:53:57.50 in other words bring them back into keeping 00:53:57.51\00:53:59.28 because by faith through Christ we have a 00:53:59.29\00:54:02.88 perfect life that he offers us 00:54:02.89\00:54:05.30 by his own life. And you know what happened 00:54:05.31\00:54:08.10 and I wanna and the reason why this verse 00:54:08.11\00:54:09.71 came up and we're gonna talk about 00:54:09.72\00:54:11.38 some of the types here and some antitypes 00:54:11.39\00:54:13.04 if we get to at this program that be find 00:54:13.05\00:54:15.66 but if we don't get it in this program 00:54:15.67\00:54:17.71 look for the next program and we will 00:54:17.72\00:54:19.63 cover some of these shadows that existed 00:54:19.64\00:54:22.26 to point us to Christ. Now, what I wanna 00:54:22.27\00:54:24.35 also do John now because there is also another 00:54:24.36\00:54:28.10 segment of Christianity that says 00:54:28.11\00:54:29.58 the Ten Commandments are in effect 00:54:29.59\00:54:31.87 but they only observe 9 and then 00:54:31.88\00:54:34.85 there is a battle to get rid of one of them. 00:54:34.86\00:54:36.73 So, now let's go ahead and say I wanna show 00:54:36.74\00:54:40.47 you friends how Satan has sold you phone 00:54:40.48\00:54:42.81 that doesn't function but he's convinced you 00:54:42.82\00:54:44.85 that it works. I wanna show you how Satan 00:54:44.86\00:54:48.35 has sold you a phone that doesn't function, 00:54:48.36\00:54:51.03 it's broken but he's telling you it works. 00:54:51.04\00:54:53.57 Now, let me go ahead and use the illustration 00:54:53.58\00:54:55.54 make it very obvious, this phone has 00:54:55.55\00:54:58.29 ten digits, Ten Commandments. 00:54:58.30\00:55:01.82 Now, you're transitioning, 00:55:01.83\00:55:02.80 this is not a ceremonial, 00:55:02.81\00:55:03.81 not ceremonial any longer. This is a 00:55:03.82\00:55:04.96 Ten Commandment example, Ten 00:55:04.97\00:55:06.39 Commandment phone. Two sides of the phone, 00:55:06.40\00:55:08.07 ten digits, one all the way down to zero which 00:55:08.08\00:55:13.19 is ten digits. Let's say I get rid of 00:55:13.20\00:55:16.35 digit number four or in this case 00:55:16.36\00:55:18.98 commandment number four, right. 00:55:18.99\00:55:21.38 Digit number four doesn't work John comes 00:55:21.39\00:55:24.22 to my store to buy a phone and I say 00:55:24.23\00:55:26.43 I have a phone I would like to sell you John 00:55:26.44\00:55:28.02 and I'm not telling him that digit number four 00:55:28.88\00:55:31.14 doesn't work. He buys the phone, 00:55:31.15\00:55:33.22 he goes to home and tries to make a phone 00:55:33.23\00:55:34.33 call and discovers that he can't get through 00:55:34.34\00:55:36.79 to most of the people because 00:55:36.80\00:55:38.56 one of the digits don't work. 00:55:38.57\00:55:40.09 He comes back to me and says you know, 00:55:40.10\00:55:42.04 you told me this was a brand new phone 00:55:42.05\00:55:44.83 and there's no scratches on it, 00:55:44.84\00:55:47.13 it will look perfectly intact. And I say, 00:55:47.14\00:55:49.16 John well, okay it's a, the phone is working 00:55:49.17\00:55:53.06 mostly. The only problem is digit number four 00:55:53.07\00:55:57.14 doesn't work, but don't worry about 00:55:57.15\00:55:58.27 that it's still a phone. Digit number four 00:55:58.28\00:56:00.25 is there, but it doesn't work to impressive, 00:56:00.26\00:56:03.34 it doesn't, it doesn't work, you could see it, 00:56:03.35\00:56:05.36 but it doesn't function when you press it, 00:56:05.37\00:56:07.31 right. Now, in Christianity today 00:56:07.32\00:56:10.17 commandment number four doesn't work 00:56:10.18\00:56:12.78 for them because Satan has broken it. 00:56:12.79\00:56:15.94 He has violated it, giving you a phone 00:56:16.99\00:56:20.05 and said to you, it has ten digits don't worry 00:56:20.06\00:56:23.30 about it. It has ten digits; you can see 00:56:23.31\00:56:25.93 ten digits, when you press the fourth one 00:56:25.94\00:56:27.95 it doesn't work. The commandments of God, 00:56:27.96\00:56:30.11 the fourth commandment is not at work in many 00:56:30.12\00:56:32.63 Christian churches because it has been 00:56:32.64\00:56:34.58 violated, broken by the enemy of truth. 00:56:34.59\00:56:38.13 And he is giving everybody else a phone 00:56:38.97\00:56:40.57 Christianity has a phone they think works, 00:56:40.58\00:56:43.25 but that digit is not functioning. 00:56:43.26\00:56:45.64 And we will point out what that digit 00:56:45.65\00:56:47.96 has been replaced with in our 00:56:47.97\00:56:50.21 upcoming programs. You know, 00:56:50.22\00:56:52.24 the we're talking about the shadows here, 00:56:52.25\00:56:56.36 right, kind of keeping the context of what 00:56:56.37\00:56:57.77 our program is here. We're talking about 00:56:57.78\00:56:58.97 the shadows; it is so I can't say 00:56:58.98\00:57:01.94 how important it is to understand 00:57:01.95\00:57:03.21 the difference between the law of God 00:57:03.22\00:57:04.39 and the law of Moses, right, and ceremonial 00:57:04.40\00:57:06.18 laws. And that's why we're gonna spend 00:57:06.19\00:57:08.47 another hope program on this very topic 00:57:08.48\00:57:11.08 because it is so important. 00:57:11.09\00:57:12.54 And I think, if you do get it, 00:57:12.55\00:57:14.63 if you catch it from that point on, 00:57:14.64\00:57:16.67 you'll be able to read scripture much more 00:57:16.68\00:57:18.17 clearly and understand what God 00:57:18.18\00:57:19.71 is trying to tell us. That's right, friends 00:57:19.72\00:57:21.06 so stay tuned for the next 00:57:21.07\00:57:22.23 House Calls program. We're gonna make it 00:57:22.24\00:57:24.05 very clear that the shadow has passed; 00:57:24.06\00:57:26.15 the real has come until we see you again study 00:57:26.16\00:57:29.11 God's word trust Him because Christ is 00:57:29.12\00:57:31.97 waiting to be in your life. 00:57:31.98\00:57:33.12 Have a great day in Christ. 00:57:33.13\00:57:34.82