Hello friends grab
your Bible and a friend
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and sit back as
we explore God's word
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together on this
edition of House Calls.
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Welcome to another
House Calls program,
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where we begin our
journey together our
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excursion as it where
through the word of God,
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and you know it's a
journey that we always
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get something
new and exciting one,
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we take that
journey together so welcome,
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my name is John
Lomacang and I have in the
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studio with me my very
good friend John Stanton.
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It's good to be here
John, with you in the studio
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opening the word of
God as we always do,
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that's right. And
you know its realty fun
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because when we sit
down for this program
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we are not we don't have a
whole script, that's right.
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We don't know what
the Lord is gonna to do
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and so we know
that each time though
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we get together God does bless,
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and we are looking
forward to that today.
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And in order for that to
happen I think you should
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have some prayer so
that our listeners and
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viewers could also
follow us under the impression
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of the Holy Spirit,
let's do that. Dear Father in
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Heaven, we are so
thankful for the opportunity
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yet again to study
your word and we don't take
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this lately, we ask for
the power of your Holy Spirit
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to lead us and guide
us through it's pages,
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the pages of your word
so that we may understand
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more fully your plan for
us and the various teachings
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and the things you want to
let us know that are in it,
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thank you so much
for being here with us
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today in Jesus name, amen, amen.
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And friends as you
know this also was a program
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but that makes the
program lot of fun so
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let's begin with a
question, I want to John begin,
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alright, this
question if from David,
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alright and I doesn't
see where David is from here,
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but he brings a
pretty good question here.
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He says on the
recent show you were talking
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about the Bride of
Christ being the New Jerusalem,
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and not the people,
could it be both and he talks
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about Revelation 21:9
and 10 talks about the
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lamb's wife coming
down out of heaven which
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is the New Jerusalem, right.
We know that text very well.
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David you are
absolutely right, it is both.
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You know, I would say
what is the city without
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the people in it?
Right. So the New Jerusalem
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is the city full of God's
people and so that's really
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what is happening
Jesus said in His promise
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to return that He
was going to prepare
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a place for us, right.
And that place is for us.
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So, the church is
described as the woman
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in the Bible, the New
Jerusalem is described
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as the Bride. I think
probably to be a little
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more specific about why
the bride is the New Jerusalem
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and why we made that
statement was because
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in the context of time
John at the end where the
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New Jerusalem comes
down which has God's people
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in it, it is
spoken of as the bride,
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because it's the combination
of the coming together
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finally between Jesus
and His people face to face.
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And so that's one of
the reasons why Revelation
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speaks of the bride
being the New Jerusalem,
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but it is also people,
it's also God's church because
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they are the woman
spoken of through the Bible
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as well
symbolically. And you know,
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even add to that I
think that sometimes that
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misconception comes
in when we try to apply
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every application and
scripture to mean that
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in every instance the
church represents the bride,
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because you will find the
Parable of the Ten Virgins
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of the church there
is spoken of as five wise
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and five foolish,
and they were preparing
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to meet the bridegroom,
and they were waiting
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at the house of the
bride see so you see clearly
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in the Parable of
the Ten Virgins those who
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are wise were the
ones waiting and they were
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waiting and they had
the holy spirit those
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who were foolish didn't
and so when the call was
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made behold the
bridegroom is coming go out
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to meet them those
who were without enough
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oil didn't realize
until then that they were not
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sufficiently prepared
for the coming of the Lord
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and they were left
out, they did not get an
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opportunity to go to
the wedding feast as it
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were in Revelation. So,
but what you have as John
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just pointed out so
wonderfully is that when
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the Lord presents the kingdom,
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when Jesus presents
the kingdom to His father,
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it is in fact the
fulfillment of when
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He said everyone
that you've given to me
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no one has been
able to snatch them out
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of my hand, and He is
presenting to the Father.
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Jesus being the first fruits,
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he is presenting the
harvest that's why you
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find in the Bible
there is a harvest spoken of,
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He sends His angels
forth to gather the harvest,
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he gathers the
wheat into his barn,
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and so the barn there
would be synonymous to the
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wedding feast and we
are the guest and what
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would have wedding
feast be without guest?
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How wonderful will the
kingdom be with the people
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of God in it. So, therefore,
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when Paul the Apostle
says husbands love your
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wives as Christ has
loved the church and gave
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himself for her in
that comparison Christ
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is referred to us the
husband man and the church
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is referred to as
the wife or the bride.
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So you have to put
the full picture together,
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but what a feast is
going to be and so at the end
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of the thousand years
when the New Jerusalem
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comes down John sees a
picture there as a bride
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adorned for her
husband and when you look
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at the Asian or the
Ancient application of how
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the bride in Asia was
adorned even still today
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if you look at some
of the weddings in India
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and some of the
Asian countries the bride
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is magnificently adorned
as Jerusalem is described
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under the book of
the Revelation adorned
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for her husband. John
think about that all the
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foundations of precious stones,
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the streets of gold,
the gates made of pearl
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and that's the
picture of the middle eastern
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bride adorned for her husband.
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Angie and I had a
chance, so we were going to,
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I forget where it
was, but oh it was one of
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Mark Finley's evangelistic
series and after the
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meeting that night it
was in large auditorium,
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we stayed by I think it
was the ending of the meeting
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so we stay little bit
and in that same complex,
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they were there was
a wedding being hosted
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an Indian wedding and
that was the first time
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I ever saw the Bible
symbols really played out
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[No Sound], because
the bride was presented
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at night and I
thought we never had wedding's
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that late at night
and we were talking about
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10 or 10:30 at night
and then they had this big
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carriage that was
carrying the bride carried
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by five or six guys
you know sorry eight guys
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and the bride was in
there and when they opened
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whey they removed the
canopy and the curtains
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this bride was adorned
with I don't think there
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was any precious stones
that she didn't have worn.
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Amazing, yeah, but
then in front of her were
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like the Ten Virgins,
young Indian girls all
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beautifully adorned,
wonderfully dressed leading
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the way and then
the bridegroom came
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in to meet the
bride I thought, wow
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that's the picture that
Jesus show in the Bible.
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So truly, he loves
us as much as a husband
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loves his bride and
he is going to adorn us
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with His
righteousness like a bride
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is adorned on her wedding day.
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Yeah, you know, I
like what you are saying
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also about the
interpretation thing,
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you know, being
taking one interpretation
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and holding faster
that throughout because
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sometimes there is
some various interpretations
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of things, and even the
Bible itself gives those
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different kinds of
even though maybe one symbol
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a coupe of different
things that it can mean one
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of them is beast,
right. You know I mean Daniel
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7 says, in verse 17
that the great beast,
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which are four or four
kings then we read down
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little further it
says, a fourth beast shall be
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fourth kingdom. So the
king always has a kingdom
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so we know those
are connected, but a
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beast can mean a king
isolated or it can mean
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a kingdom, that's
right and we know that too
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because even in
Revelation itself you go there
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when you talk about
these several beasts
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and all of the sudden
you know in Revelation 12
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it introduce a Fiery
Red Dragon well what's
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the dragon? A
beast, it's a beast, yeah,
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but that dragon we know
a little bit later after
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Revelation 12:3 it
introduces that dragon,
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it says in verse 9,
that's the dragon was that
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serpent of old
called the Devil and Satan.
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So he is the king, that's
right, but he is the beast,
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that's right. So, see
those are some of things
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that we can get caught up in,
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so defining a symbol
that we can't understand
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maybe it's got a little
bit of larger perspective
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or meaning to it. So
the context is the vital
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importance, the application
you make is always based
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on the context and
that's a good illustration
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because Revelation
we don't want take this
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question about
the Revelation but you
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have opened a door
there, which you should not
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have but I am walking through,
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I am walking through.
In Revelation you have,
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you have a beast,
there are two beasts of
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Revelation
chapter 13 the first beast
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and the second beast
and when you see the beast
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rising up out of the
earth you see a rise of a king
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and a kingdom talked
about [No Sound]. I'll
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leave it right there,
but you know you are talking
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about the third
beast Revelation 17,
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let's leave that for
now, yeah I am leaving that
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one alone for now. I
have a question here;
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it says good day
sirs John and John,
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blessings in the name of Jesus,
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I just want to make a
comment on the text you
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were talking about on
House Calls of Philippians 2:12,
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Paul is here saying
"work out your own salvation
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with fear and
trembling." Salvation is free,
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it is not of our own
as you've rightly said but
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here he is saying
workout your individual
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relationship with God and
he stresses the seriousness
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of with fear and
trembling for it is God which
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worked in you both
to will and to do of his
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good pleasure.
Thank you for that comment
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and I think that
what's you are pointing out
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although you didn't
ask a question I think what
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you're pointing out
is the word "workout."
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True is salvation
Ephesians 2 verse 8 and 9
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for by grace are
you saved through faith
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and that not of yourselves,
it is the gift of God
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not of works and
he mentioned both,
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but I think you are
also familiar with the fact
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that in James the Bible
says, faith without works
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is dead. Abraham
showed his salvation
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by his works and so
James says you show me
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your salvation, your
faith without your works
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and I'll show you
my faith by my works,
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but I think what is
pointed out here when he says
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work out your own salvation
with fear and trembling.
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John, the Apostle in 1st
John 3:3 adds his comment
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to that and I believe
this is what he meant,
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and everyone who has
this hope in him purifies
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himself just as he is
pure. Now you know we cannot
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purify ourselves, can the
Ethiopian change his skin?
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Can the leopard
change his spots?
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How can we that are
accustomed to do an Evil
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and do Good? We can't do that.
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And the Bible also says
there is none that's good,
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no not one even
our righteousness
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is as filthy rags. So
this is not talking about self
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purification what I
believe it means is as the Lord
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has made you pure
see to it that you stand
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in that purity, see
to it that you maintain
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that purity. In
Revelation John says in this way
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I blessed to see that
"keeps his garment less
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he walk naked and
they see his shame."
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So the Lord is saying
we have a responsibility
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that when the Lord
establishes us in a
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relationship with him
we've got to maintain that
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relationship, and you
are married I am married
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and you know that
to be married means
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that both have to
work on relationship.
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You can't say I am
married and my husband knows it,
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I am married my wife knows it,
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and I don't have to do
anything to maintain that
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relationship. The
ceremony is the beginning,
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oh that's right. It
is not the end result.
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You know, the other
thing part of that text
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I think this really key
here is that you see two
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predominant words there
that are very, very small.
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You have the
working out and you have the
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working in, God does
working us that's right.
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We do the work to
get things out of us,
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so in other words
that working out of our own
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salvation is often an
effort to make sure that
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we remain pure by
eliminating those things
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and getting rid of those
things that we've held unto.
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So, in a way you could
say the working out of our
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salvation is a
working out of own brand,
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our own desire, it's our
own inherited sinful tendencies
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and allow God then as
we've push those things
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out to work in us,
only that which he can do,
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but we can't do it. So,
work out, get rid of it,
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let God work in, let
his spirit work within us.
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You know you have
to empty something
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in order for to be
filled and the Lord says to us
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you've got to give
yourself as a willing vessel
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so that you could
allow me to empty you out,
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so that I can fill you
up, because I think of,
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I think of bottle of
water or glass of water,
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if you just empty the
glass and you don't fill it
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up while flies could fly
in it, ants could get into it,
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bugs could get into it,
but they are less likely
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to even want to get into that,
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if this water or
something that has filled up
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the content of the
glass. And so just being empty
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is not salvation,
being emptied of sin
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is not salvation, but
being filled by the Holy Spirit
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is where the
salvation and the power to live
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that Christian life comes from.
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So yeah, we have to
work that out because
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you know work it
out I mean, math problem
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work it out, your
difficult situation work it out,
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the Lord puts into our
hands the responsibility
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of maintaining or walk with him,
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and He says draw
near to me that work it
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and I'll draw near
to you and so thank you
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for that question.
This question is from
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Gale in Alaska. She
says since they're referring
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to the woman as the
church in Genesis when
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it says that I'll
put enmity between you
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and the woman and
between your seed and her
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seed or they talking
about the church there too
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or are they talking
about Jesus and the church?
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Okay, this is I know
this can be a little bit
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confusing this is
where you got a symbol that
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can refer to a couple
of different things and
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it's depends upon how
you're looking at this.
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But in Genesis 3:15,
there is a clear reference
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to Eve herself
and her descendants,
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because God is
speaking to the serpent he is
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pointing to the
serpent and he said between
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your seed and her
seed and so this is clear
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reference to those
who are God's people not
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just the church the
New Testament Church,
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but the woman refers
to God's people even in
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Old Testament times.
So, he is pointing to Eve
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and he is pointing to
Satan saying your seed
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and her seed so any
descendant of Eve that
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is faithful to the Lord
is spoken of as a woman.
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Now there is also
a reference clearly
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to Jesus here,
because one of those seeds
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is the seed which the
new King James Version
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capitalizes seed there
because it's a reference
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to Christ Himself being
the seed of our salvation
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and our hope, our
greatest hope and so,
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there is enmity,
enmity there. Now,
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if you look at
Revelation 12 okay.
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We're gonna find
that the woman is spoken
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of prior to the birth of Christ,
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who is the seed in that context.
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And it says here in
verse 2 or verse 1 it talks
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about the woman and
then verse 2 it says,
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being with child she
cried out in labor and in pain
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to give birth that
introduces same there in
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verse 3 and 4, and
then it says she verse 5
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she bore a male child
who was to rule all nations
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with a rod of iron and
her child was caught up
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to God and His
throne, then the woman fled
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into the wilderness. See
right there in two verses
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you've got the woman
being Israel nationally
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which you know was
prior to the rejection
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of the gospel and
then it goes to verse 6
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which is the woman the
church of a New Testament,
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right. So, that's the
woman down through time
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and I believe you can
start with Adam and Eve
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descendants and
that how enmity was put
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between them and the serpent,
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and a reference clear
reference to the church
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of the Old Testament
in Bible, in Christ time
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where Christ is the
seed. So you have a couple
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of things there, and
they are both correct.
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Yeah, that's true. I think
that the point is well made
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I don't think I have to
add too much for that but
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I think it's Galatians
3:19, talks about Christ
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as the seed of promise
until the seed should come,
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and the woman, she
has had this constant
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description in the
Bible to represent the people
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of God in some cases you
looked at Genesis chapter 3
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after these verse 14
when I'll put enmity between
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you and the woman
between your seed and
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her seed and what the
Lord in essence is saying
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there is, there is gonna
be a hatred between Satan
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and the church, and
the church and Satan.
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In other words Satan
should hate the things
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the church does and
the church should hate
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the things that Satan
does, there is gonna be
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this uncomfortable, this
discomfort enmity between
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both of you and I'm
gonna keep it that way.
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You know what's nice about
that when I talk about that
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prophecy or even
discover what that really meant
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the Lord in the
essence saying I'm gonna put
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within your heart hatred
for the things that Satan
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wants to give you, and
I'm gonna put and is already
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in his heart a hatred
for the things that Christ
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has given to his church,
right, that's why he came
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after the woman in the garden.
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He came after Eve in the garden,
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actually she went to
the tree, but that woman
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being deceived the
Lord said from now on
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I'm gonna put this such
a hatred between the two
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of you that the church
and Satan should never unite,
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that's why when you
have phrases like the church
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of Satan this is
most ridiculous term,
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because he has never
spoken of having a bride,
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but he has spoken of
as trying to take the
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affections of the bride
of Christ away from Christ,
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and so to speak draw
her affections away from
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being a legend to her
Lord that's why you find
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in Revelation when
you have another picture
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of the woman in
Revelation 17 she is referred
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to as the whore
the harlot of Babylon,
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who prostitutes
itself and causes the kings
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of the earth to commit
fornication that is to fall
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into her unfaithfulness.
We're gonna talk about
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that more today in
our program entitles
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spiritualism, but
that's true it makes a lot of
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sense there. There is
another question here,
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the ram, this person
didn't put the name but
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the question is
still is good one,
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the ram that was
caught in the bush took
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the place of Isaac,
can Isaac be seen as a type
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of Christ though he was not
slain if yes please explain,
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if no please
explain. In this sense,
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I saw and many of us see
Isaac is a type of Christ
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because his father
required of him complete
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obedience and as
the New Testament speaks
00:19:31.51\00:19:34.73
about Christ
obedient even unto the death.
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Isaac who is obviously a
lot younger than his father
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and I don't know
if Abraham was yeah I
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think that point he
was past a hundreds years
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old but Isaac who was a
lot stronger than his father,
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who was a lot
younger than his father
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at that point he
had been submissive
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to the desires of
his father and so,
00:19:54.12\00:19:56.36
when Abraham got to
the place of the sacrifice
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Isaac laid down he
didn't fire his father,
00:20:00.03\00:20:02.53
but he did ask the
question which doesn't make
00:20:03.15\00:20:05.11
him the exact
Christ so in one sense,
00:20:05.14\00:20:07.93
he was an example of
the Christ being willing
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to give his life as a
sacrifice for humanity.
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The other part he
was the Christ says when
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Genesis 22:18 makes
the statement in your seed
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all the nations of the
earth shall be blessed.
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So you have
Abraham, you have Isaac,
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then you have Jacob,
and when you continue
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to follow that line
all the way through Jesus
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even identifies himself
through the line Abraham,
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Isaac, Jacob, and in that
sense his lineage open the
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way for the incarnation
of Christ on this earth,
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but the other thing
is when Isaac was laying
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on the altar to show
that he is not the Christ
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he asks his father,
he says father where
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is the sacrifice
and he is lying there,
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and then Abraham
responded the Lord who
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provide himself a
lamb. Well you know we read
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through that so
quickly one of my favorite
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teachers Dr.
Leslie Hardy who taught at
00:21:07.40\00:21:10.02
Andrews University,
who is a New Testament
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I mean the Old Testament
scholar and also he had
00:21:12.66\00:21:15.62
the I won't say to
corner it, but very few people
00:21:16.30\00:21:17.68
had an understanding of
the sanctuary as he did.
00:21:17.71\00:21:19.71
He said what the
Hebrew actually meant was God
00:21:20.82\00:21:23.35
will provide
himself dash a lamb.
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He was the lamb being provided,
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so when he saw the
ram in the thicket,
00:21:30.34\00:21:31.77
he was the one
that was being provided,
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he wasn't looking
for a ram to replace him,
00:21:33.96\00:21:38.77
but he was providing
himself as the sacrifice,
00:21:38.80\00:21:42.07
but Isaac, yes in
a lot of particular
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is a type of Christ,
but only in some particulars
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by the way you
will find that in many
00:21:48.63\00:21:50.28
Old Testament
prophets, you find that in many
00:21:50.31\00:21:53.36
Old Testament teachers
for example Elisha, he was
00:21:53.39\00:21:55.55
the type of Christ,
Isaiah type of Christ,
00:21:57.86\00:22:01.31
Moses clearly, Moses
leading the people out of
00:22:02.01\00:22:04.16
bondage, his
statement blot me out, okay,
00:22:04.19\00:22:06.08
or brought the people out there,
00:22:06.11\00:22:07.41
there you go blot me
out, interceder, intersession,
00:22:07.44\00:22:09.71
yeah. So, you see
clearly is the lot of language
00:22:10.50\00:22:12.39
in the Old
Testament and the Lord intense
00:22:12.42\00:22:14.17
for those picture
words, those word pictures
00:22:14.20\00:22:16.16
to be there so that we
could understand better
00:22:16.19\00:22:18.01
what is the work was
going to be when he came.
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Do you have anything
else that we could through
00:22:20.83\00:22:21.80
for the next 3 minutes?
Not for three minutes, okay.
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I don't know maybe
you have a quick question
00:22:28.48\00:22:29.66
there too. Well let's
see what we have here I think
00:22:29.69\00:22:32.09
I may come up with
one okay here we have one.
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What is your
explanation of what Jesus meant
00:22:35.23\00:22:38.29
with the word sword to
His disciples in Luke 22
00:22:39.36\00:22:42.53
verse 36 to 38? Let's
look at that very quickly
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that's the very
interesting passage because
00:22:46.83\00:22:48.97
we know that the person
maybe eluting to the idea
00:22:49.00\00:22:52.37
that Jesus is a
non-violent Jesus.
00:22:52.40\00:22:55.76
He is a non-violent
Lord. Why would he say
00:22:55.79\00:22:58.72
to the disciples? If
you don't have swords sell
00:22:58.75\00:23:01.82
your garments and buy one.
00:23:01.85\00:23:03.78
Well, you will notice
in this the word sword
00:23:04.57\00:23:07.18
there didn't mean a
long, long sword it meant
00:23:07.21\00:23:09.96
like a short roman
sword which we would term
00:23:09.99\00:23:13.01
nowadays a knife, but
not a little pen knife
00:23:13.04\00:23:17.16
but something that has
some size to it that they
00:23:17.19\00:23:19.76
would put a little
sheet or small holster
00:23:19.79\00:23:22.27
on their side. What
was meant by that was
00:23:22.30\00:23:25.29
in the days of Christ
that was not an uncommon
00:23:25.32\00:23:28.38
thing for Romans and
Roman citizens to have
00:23:28.41\00:23:30.85
a sword and many of
them believe that in their
00:23:30.88\00:23:33.26
journey they need it protection.
00:23:33.29\00:23:34.81
Well, you will also
discover that Jesus was
00:23:34.84\00:23:37.67
in essence saying to
them get a knife because
00:23:37.70\00:23:40.24
you may have to kill
somebody along the way
00:23:40.27\00:23:41.43
to Jerusalem, he
didn't believe in that because
00:23:41.46\00:23:43.73
you remember when the
air of one of the Roman
00:23:43.76\00:23:46.66
soldiers was cut off
Jesus rebuked his disciples
00:23:46.69\00:23:51.01
for doing that he
says put away your sword.
00:23:51.04\00:23:53.14
Notice, that meant he
had one put away your sword,
00:23:54.06\00:23:57.70
he had one Jesus was
in essence saying make
00:23:57.73\00:24:00.89
it visible so that people
will think you will use it,
00:24:00.92\00:24:03.43
but you're gonna use it,
but the thing that throws
00:24:03.46\00:24:06.78
us into a tizzy here
and I think what the person
00:24:06.81\00:24:08.78
was meaning is,
so then should be buy
00:24:08.81\00:24:11.30
a weapon and let
people see it but not use it,
00:24:11.33\00:24:14.89
it's taking the verse literally,
00:24:15.92\00:24:16.98
it's taking the verse
literally, but you will
00:24:17.01\00:24:19.66
also make the
statement as Revelation 13 says,
00:24:19.69\00:24:22.40
he who kills with the
sword must be killed with the
00:24:23.26\00:24:27.41
sword, what was even
greater than the physical
00:24:27.44\00:24:29.74
sword was Jesus saying to them,
00:24:29.77\00:24:31.20
you pay special
attention on your garments,
00:24:31.23\00:24:34.45
but what you need
is the sword and Paul
00:24:35.06\00:24:36.62
the apostle made it
very clear in Ephesians 4
00:24:36.65\00:24:38.51
and Ephesians 5, that the sword,
00:24:39.38\00:24:41.44
the sword of the
spirit is the word of God
00:24:41.47\00:24:44.56
and what was the
instrument that they use in
00:24:44.59\00:24:47.23
New Testament times
to bring about thousands
00:24:47.26\00:24:49.95
of conversions, they
use the sword of the spirit
00:24:49.98\00:24:52.82
which is the word of
God, and finally in the
00:24:52.85\00:24:56.74
Book of Acts you
don't see one example
00:24:56.77\00:24:58.58
of violence on the
part of the disciples,
00:24:58.61\00:25:01.01
right, but you see the
converse where there was
00:25:01.04\00:25:03.06
a lot of violence
perpetuated against them
00:25:03.09\00:25:04.87
but you saw no
instance where the disciples
00:25:05.52\00:25:07.55
decided to take
their swords out and defend
00:25:07.58\00:25:09.62
themselves against
the Romans or anybody
00:25:09.65\00:25:11.65
who sought to do them any harm.
00:25:11.68\00:25:13.58
So Jesus was not
saying let's be violent in our
00:25:14.27\00:25:18.15
approach to the
Gospel and which is amazing
00:25:18.18\00:25:20.75
to me nowadays John
because there is so many
00:25:20.78\00:25:22.17
Christians had so
pro-gun. I'm having a hard time
00:25:22.20\00:25:25.50
thinking that you know
Christians can surround
00:25:25.53\00:25:27.20
themselves with so
many guns and they say
00:25:27.23\00:25:30.74
while we are peaceful
nonviolent but as like
00:25:30.77\00:25:34.73
they are getting ready
for revolution, it seems
00:25:34.76\00:25:36.04
opposite to what Jesus
talks about in his word.
00:25:36.75\00:25:38.75
You know, I also
think that this passage here
00:25:38.78\00:25:40.61
is speaking to a great
degree spiritually because
00:25:40.64\00:25:43.69
if you remember
when Jesus first send his
00:25:43.72\00:25:45.32
disciples out he told
them to go out without any
00:25:45.35\00:25:49.19
money you know without
their nap sack and without,
00:25:49.22\00:25:52.55
without sandals and
he asks them here in
00:25:52.58\00:25:56.25
verse 35 did you
like anything and they
00:25:56.28\00:25:58.62
said nothing. So he was
trying to teach dependents
00:25:58.65\00:26:01.92
now he is saying, go
out, take the things that you
00:26:01.95\00:26:04.92
need but know that
you're totally dependent
00:26:04.95\00:26:07.72
upon me for
everything, that's right.
00:26:07.75\00:26:09.15
And so that's,
that's the principle of what
00:26:09.18\00:26:10.92
we have here in this highly
figurative it is not meant
00:26:10.95\00:26:14.38
to be taken literally
as into by guns as you say.
00:26:14.41\00:26:17.68
And that's what lot
of Christians nowadays
00:26:18.29\00:26:19.58
they said that
they were referred to be
00:26:19.61\00:26:21.36
noncombatants in the
military they prefer to go
00:26:21.39\00:26:24.66
into some role
maybe emetic or whatever
00:26:24.69\00:26:27.69
noncombatant life
taking role in the military.
00:26:27.72\00:26:30.53
However, you will
discover that there those
00:26:30.56\00:26:34.55
who would be under
possible persecution
00:26:34.58\00:26:37.65
John chapter 16
verse 1 to 3 and Jesus says
00:26:37.68\00:26:40.50
those who killed
you will do so because
00:26:40.53\00:26:43.45
they are thinking
that they are doing service
00:26:43.48\00:26:45.16
to God but they will
do this to you because
00:26:45.19\00:26:47.15
they haven't known
Jesus and they haven't
00:26:47.18\00:26:49.03
known the father. So
we serve a very nonviolent
00:26:49.06\00:26:52.13
Lord and that's the
picture of the kingdom of
00:26:52.16\00:26:55.51
God, the prince of peace
not the prince of violence,
00:26:55.54\00:26:58.43
amen. Well thank
you for your questions
00:26:58.46\00:27:01.35
and your comments, we
always enjoy being able
00:27:01.38\00:27:04.36
to answer those
hopefully we didn't do violence
00:27:04.39\00:27:06.64
in any of our answers,
but if you have anymore
00:27:06.67\00:27:08.77
questions or
comments you like to sent
00:27:08.80\00:27:10.18
to us here at 3abn send them to
00:27:10.21\00:27:12.40
housecalls@3abn.org,
that's housecalls@3abn.org
00:27:12.43\00:27:17.31
and we will try our
best to answer them.
00:27:18.03\00:27:19.48
We're gonna open the
door today and I used
00:27:20.44\00:27:22.30
that word figuratively
because you will discover
00:27:22.33\00:27:25.26
in our topic the
door has been opened.
00:27:25.29\00:27:26.99
We're gonna talk
about spiritualism today,
00:27:27.82\00:27:29.35
we talked about
Revelation in some particular
00:27:30.12\00:27:33.19
areas we talked about
the kings and the beasts
00:27:33.22\00:27:36.09
of Revelation and
we used the phrase
00:27:36.12\00:27:38.40
I think a number of
programs ago the great
00:27:38.43\00:27:40.99
controversy. Well there
is an aspect to the great
00:27:41.02\00:27:43.72
controversy that many
people are unaware of,
00:27:43.75\00:27:45.87
and it is the word spiritualism.
00:27:45.90\00:27:48.50
What is
spiritualism? How does it work?
00:27:48.53\00:27:50.94
How could we avoid
it? When do we know
00:27:50.97\00:27:53.85
and how do we know
that we maybe in danger
00:27:53.88\00:27:56.17
of being influenced by
it, our church is infected
00:27:56.20\00:27:59.25
by it, and how do we
know it's being used on us
00:27:59.28\00:28:03.37
and so you have to
keep in mind that we are
00:28:03.40\00:28:06.26
in a controversy
against an enemy who uses
00:28:07.17\00:28:10.27
deception as his
greatest element and
00:28:10.30\00:28:13.26
spiritualism has it's
part to play in deceiving
00:28:13.29\00:28:16.66
humanity and deceiving
the world into thinking
00:28:16.69\00:28:19.80
that they are doing
right when in fact they are
00:28:19.83\00:28:20.80
doing wrong. John
what I would like to do,
00:28:20.81\00:28:23.95
you may I think
you're gonna let's say
00:28:23.98\00:28:25.92
something
before I turn the page.
00:28:25.95\00:28:27.17
Well you know
spiritualism goes way,
00:28:27.20\00:28:28.17
way back and we find
spiritualism initially
00:28:28.18\00:28:31.12
in the garden where
the serpent was talking
00:28:31.15\00:28:34.78
with Eve and
there is this you know
00:28:34.81\00:28:37.40
we use the word
channeling today,
00:28:37.43\00:28:39.18
right you know speaking of that,
00:28:39.21\00:28:40.64
but you know the
voices if it was coming
00:28:40.67\00:28:42.40
through that
serpent and Eve you know
00:28:42.43\00:28:45.31
clearly was deceived
by that, and so he used
00:28:45.34\00:28:47.72
deception way back
when through communication
00:28:47.75\00:28:51.89
with Eve who was
one of God's children
00:28:53.06\00:28:55.12
unto this very day,
I think the one of the
00:28:55.15\00:28:58.55
biggest things we find
with the word spiritualism
00:28:58.58\00:29:00.68
is and it's definition,
is that it is Satan's way
00:29:00.71\00:29:04.36
of practicing
deception by either by some
00:29:04.39\00:29:08.18
way of
communicating with people,
00:29:08.21\00:29:10.87
whether that be
direct communication like
00:29:12.37\00:29:13.88
a channeling thing
into séance or whether
00:29:13.91\00:29:16.82
it would be through
you know cards or pamphlets
00:29:16.85\00:29:19.03
and other things that
he has that he uses through
00:29:19.06\00:29:21.78
those who are into that
kind of thing or whether
00:29:21.81\00:29:26.11
it would be even
deception as far as God's
00:29:26.14\00:29:28.06
word because I
believe the Satan twists
00:29:28.09\00:29:30.74
the words of God as he
did in the garden saying
00:29:30.77\00:29:33.10
didn't God's say
right, that's right,
00:29:33.13\00:29:35.40
that's what he said
he refereed to God that
00:29:35.43\00:29:36.73
when he met with
Jesus during he temptation
00:29:36.76\00:29:38.81
was you know,
trying to quote scripture
00:29:38.84\00:29:41.83
and didn't really
quoted exactly correct
00:29:41.86\00:29:43.69
and that's kind of
Satan's things so the underlying
00:29:43.72\00:29:46.58
foundation is
deception, but the other aspect
00:29:46.61\00:29:49.67
of spiritualism is
communication, that's right.
00:29:49.70\00:29:52.11
And there is got to be
a communication element
00:29:52.69\00:29:54.05
for that deception
and so spiritualism is as
00:29:54.08\00:29:56.67
we talk about it
communicating or trying
00:29:56.70\00:29:58.76
to reach God's
people in many ways with his
00:29:58.79\00:30:02.52
deception in the
things that he is trying to
00:30:02.55\00:30:05.14
accomplish setting
him up for his great
00:30:05.17\00:30:07.45
appearance in the very
last day the combination
00:30:07.48\00:30:09.88
of that
spiritualism, that's right.
00:30:09.91\00:30:12.82
That's why I want to
begin with this very important
00:30:12.85\00:30:15.12
text because when
you look at the enfolding
00:30:15.15\00:30:17.11
of spiritualism it has a
birth place and this is an
00:30:17.14\00:30:21.65
amazing thing that
I'm gonna go to this text
00:30:21.68\00:30:23.24
to talk about birth
place of spiritualism
00:30:23.27\00:30:26.24
and not gonna say
it's heaven I'm gonna say
00:30:26.27\00:30:29.71
it's well let's not
let me not jump the gun go
00:30:29.74\00:30:32.47
with me to Isaiah
chapter 14, let's look at the
00:30:32.50\00:30:35.38
birth of spiritualism.
Isaiah chapter 14 and
00:30:35.41\00:30:39.73
beginning with verse
12, there was a controversy
00:30:39.76\00:30:43.72
that began and the
Lord addresses it in such
00:30:43.75\00:30:46.38
a wonderful way He
uses word pictures here
00:30:46.41\00:30:48.70
to describe how
this controversies?
00:30:48.73\00:30:51.26
How the seed of this
controversy was planted
00:30:51.29\00:30:53.64
and how we've come
down today to define
00:30:53.67\00:30:56.33
this word
spiritualism. And by the way,
00:30:56.36\00:30:59.33
let me just do this
very quickly spiritualism
00:30:59.36\00:31:01.71
in it's definition in
many different dictionaries
00:31:01.74\00:31:05.00
go in different
directions, but spiritualism
00:31:05.03\00:31:07.79
is the appeal to a God
or deity outside of the
00:31:07.82\00:31:12.83
supreme God or
person setting themselves up
00:31:12.86\00:31:17.02
to be a deity or
supreme God and but you will
00:31:17.05\00:31:20.85
discover that they
are many more tentacles
00:31:20.88\00:31:23.29
that flow off of that beast,
00:31:23.32\00:31:25.33
if I could use the
octopus as an example today.
00:31:25.36\00:31:27.81
The core of that is the,
well let me read for you,
00:31:28.99\00:31:32.84
Isaiah 14 verse 12,
I am trying to explain
00:31:34.21\00:31:37.46
what I can just
going to read it, is this,
00:31:37.49\00:31:39.46
"How art thou fallen
from heaven, O Lucifer,
00:31:39.49\00:31:42.27
son of the morning!
First of all you have to keep
00:31:43.15\00:31:46.84
in mind that spiritualism
was started with an angel,
00:31:46.87\00:31:49.23
it wasn't
started with an earthly,
00:31:50.25\00:31:51.22
it was started with an
angel and he was called
00:31:51.23\00:31:53.44
the son of the
morning or the morning star
00:31:53.47\00:31:55.52
that's why
Revelation so significant when
00:31:56.33\00:31:57.97
it talks about stars,
the stars that had fallen.
00:31:58.00\00:31:59.91
In Luke 10:18 Jesus
saw a Satan like lightening
00:32:00.90\00:32:03.41
fall from heaven, He continues,
00:32:03.44\00:32:05.72
He says how are you
cut down to the ground
00:32:06.41\00:32:08.69
you who weakened the nations.
00:32:08.72\00:32:10.71
So, once again you
see that at the core base
00:32:11.55\00:32:16.02
of understanding how
spiritualism began the
00:32:16.75\00:32:18.94
purpose of it was to
weaken not to strengthen,
00:32:18.97\00:32:21.70
but to weaken the
nations and then you find
00:32:21.73\00:32:25.28
where the core
of it is. Verse 13
00:32:25.31\00:32:28.64
of Isaiah chapter 14, for
you have set in your heart
00:32:28.67\00:32:32.75
the birth place of
spiritualism was in the
00:32:32.78\00:32:35.76
of Satan in the
heart heart of adversary,
00:32:35.79\00:32:38.01
in the heart of one who
was an angel at one time
00:32:38.04\00:32:40.99
and he made some
claims, and the one that
00:32:41.02\00:32:43.63
I want to focus on
primarily is at the end
00:32:43.66\00:32:46.28
of verse 14, I will
be like the most high.
00:32:46.31\00:32:50.07
And John you talked
about this a moment ago
00:32:51.16\00:32:52.59
in the Garden of Eden
when Satan said to Eve
00:32:53.24\00:32:55.61
if you disobeyed God
you will be like God.
00:32:56.94\00:32:59.44
See he instantly
began to put into impact,
00:33:00.44\00:33:02.72
he instantly began to
try out that thing he said
00:33:02.75\00:33:05.27
I would be like the
most high and he said not
00:33:05.30\00:33:06.92
Eve if you disobey
God you will be like God,
00:33:06.95\00:33:09.82
knowing good and evil,
and so at the very core of
00:33:09.85\00:33:12.65
spiritualism you find
the replacement of the deity
00:33:12.68\00:33:16.32
the true deity God the
Father the supreme ruler
00:33:16.35\00:33:20.95
of the entire
universe, Satan intending to
00:33:20.98\00:33:24.57
replace of that. But, I
want to build on that but
00:33:24.60\00:33:28.24
I'm gonna give you a
chance to just register right
00:33:28.27\00:33:29.25
here. Well, we are
kind of going back in forth
00:33:29.28\00:33:31.36
between that in Genesis
right when we are talking
00:33:31.39\00:33:34.76
about the
foundations here of spiritualism
00:33:34.79\00:33:36.67
what he tries to use
clearly, he is trying to
00:33:36.70\00:33:39.30
replace the worship
of God with the worship
00:33:39.33\00:33:41.74
of himself that's
right, and whether that be
00:33:41.77\00:33:43.88
the adoration,
whether that be just an
00:33:43.91\00:33:46.13
acknowledgement
of his existence,
00:33:46.16\00:33:47.52
whether they
know it's him or not,
00:33:47.55\00:33:49.27
but any attention
given to him that's what the
00:33:49.98\00:33:51.91
Devil wants, he
wants attention. And so
00:33:51.94\00:33:53.80
how can
spiritualism operate in a realm
00:33:54.56\00:33:58.47
that is not Biblical in
a Non-Biblical or secular
00:33:58.50\00:34:03.86
world view, but we see
that everywhere don't we,
00:34:03.89\00:34:05.88
we see you know
deception and stuff happening
00:34:05.91\00:34:08.34
through mediums and
sorceries and witchcraft
00:34:08.37\00:34:11.93
and other tings
like that they don't know
00:34:11.96\00:34:13.35
where it's coming
from, but you know
00:34:13.38\00:34:14.74
what if you ask
them they know it's real.
00:34:14.77\00:34:16.78
Oh they know it; there is
no doubt that is not real so
00:34:16.81\00:34:19.27
they know that. So
that's one realm in the realm
00:34:19.30\00:34:22.97
of a Biblical world
view those who have a view
00:34:23.00\00:34:25.90
of God and understand
his existence he attacks
00:34:25.93\00:34:29.50
them especially through
what even using the word
00:34:29.53\00:34:33.69
in another things and
we see that demonstrated
00:34:33.72\00:34:35.43
in the garden where
he knew that Eve knew
00:34:35.46\00:34:38.45
God quite well, and
all he could do was work
00:34:38.48\00:34:42.85
to try and turn
the words of God around
00:34:42.88\00:34:45.35
so maybe she might
fall underneath his power.
00:34:45.38\00:34:48.38
Now I think, the other
part of that is you know
00:34:49.15\00:34:51.81
we talked about he
said didn't God say you know
00:34:51.84\00:34:54.86
he alludes to you, you
will be like God we talked
00:34:54.89\00:34:58.00
about those
aspects, but the other part
00:34:58.03\00:34:59.43
is he said you
will not surely die.
00:34:59.46\00:35:02.79
So his other foundation there,
00:35:03.75\00:35:05.31
then with spiritualism
is the realm of the dead.
00:35:06.57\00:35:09.65
To use and employ
spiritualism is a tool
00:35:11.37\00:35:14.31
he has got to convince
especially those who are
00:35:15.79\00:35:19.85
God's people but
even more just you know
00:35:19.88\00:35:22.49
the world in general
he is got to convince them
00:35:22.52\00:35:24.36
that when you die you
are not really dead because
00:35:24.39\00:35:28.02
if Satan would appear
to someone and say you know
00:35:28.05\00:35:31.30
I am Satan, I am the
deceiver of the world
00:35:31.98\00:35:34.19
I have something to say to you,
00:35:34.22\00:35:35.32
are people gonna
listen? No, but if he appears
00:35:35.35\00:35:39.04
as a Familiar Spirit
then that opens up or breaks
00:35:40.01\00:35:45.40
down the barriers, it
opens up a door for someone to
00:35:45.43\00:35:48.28
say well this is my
loved one or this is someone
00:35:48.49\00:35:50.54
that I'm familiar
with, this is something that
00:35:50.57\00:35:52.20
I can understand
and then they listen and
00:35:52.23\00:35:54.71
communicate with that
and so that's the other
00:35:54.74\00:35:56.53
foundation of spiritualism
John I know you have a lot
00:35:56.56\00:35:58.28
to say, oh no,
probably do even a program
00:35:58.31\00:36:00.90
on the issue of death,
but familiar spirit there
00:36:00.93\00:36:05.83
is reason for that word
given to spirits in that
00:36:05.86\00:36:09.01
realm using that
deception to reach the world.
00:36:09.04\00:36:12.04
And that's why
when Jesus talks about
00:36:12.07\00:36:14.12
John's vision that
was given in Revelation,
00:36:15.48\00:36:17.53
he mentioned it
very clear he says,
00:36:17.56\00:36:20.28
Revelation 12 in
verse 9 speaking about
00:36:21.66\00:36:23.62
this how art thou
fallen from heaven when
00:36:23.65\00:36:26.12
Satan fell, he brought
one-third of the angels
00:36:26.15\00:36:29.72
with him so you have to
keep in mind that very core
00:36:29.75\00:36:32.15
of
spiritualism, it's an angelic,
00:36:32.18\00:36:34.08
it's an anglican attack.
It is angels that were ones
00:36:34.11\00:36:38.40
in a divine realm. It's
angels that were once in
00:36:38.43\00:36:41.53
the presence of holiness,
so they understand better
00:36:41.56\00:36:44.70
than us the
strength that they have at
00:36:44.73\00:36:48.02
their disposal but we
are the ones who are if
00:36:48.05\00:36:50.79
we are not
protected and that's the word
00:36:50.82\00:36:53.34
I would like to use
here, if we are not protected
00:36:53.37\00:36:54.90
then we become
instant subjects and instant
00:36:54.93\00:36:57.41
victims of spiritualism,
but the Bible points
00:36:57.44\00:37:00.59
out once again what this
art is, and the claims made
00:37:00.62\00:37:03.75
by Satan let's look at
this spiritualistic father
00:37:03.78\00:37:07.92
or the person who
brought spiritualism
00:37:07.95\00:37:10.24
into existence
the devil himself.
00:37:10.27\00:37:12.04
Revelation 12 and 9
says, so the great dragon
00:37:12.70\00:37:15.13
was cast out,
that serpent of old,
00:37:15.16\00:37:18.45
called the Devil and Satan,
00:37:18.48\00:37:20.42
who deceives the whole world.
00:37:20.45\00:37:23.12
He was cast to the
earth and his angels were cast
00:37:23.89\00:37:26.12
out with him. John, I
guess it's been a while now.
00:37:26.15\00:37:32.07
You know we are
getting older but
00:37:33.39\00:37:34.36
don't tell anybody.
Sometimes you say the
00:37:34.37\00:37:36.71
other day and you
know I like for example
00:37:36.74\00:37:38.59
I thought that in 1994 I
heard that date yesterday
00:37:38.62\00:37:42.28
in 1994, so that wasn't
too long ago and somebody
00:37:42.31\00:37:44.10
said that was, that
was 14 years ago 1994
00:37:44.13\00:37:47.48
was 14 years ago
anyway that's not the topic
00:37:47.51\00:37:50.10
but I just had to
make a side bar on that
00:37:50.13\00:37:51.89
times does fly,
but when you look at
00:37:51.92\00:37:54.16
what's happening
in our world today,
00:37:54.19\00:37:55.55
the generation
that we are now in seems
00:37:55.58\00:37:59.07
to be enamored by
things that are things
00:37:59.10\00:38:02.61
that are
unexplainable. The unexplainable
00:38:02.64\00:38:06.74
phenomenon, the
mysterious things that
00:38:06.77\00:38:10.67
are happening in
someone's homes and people's
00:38:10.70\00:38:13.84
homes the light that
seems to go on and off
00:38:14.80\00:38:16.61
without anybody
turning the switch on and off
00:38:16.64\00:38:18.21
and the bulbs that being
replaced and it continues
00:38:18.24\00:38:20.50
happening there is
nothing wrong with the lamp
00:38:20.53\00:38:21.85
and they put a new
lamp and the light keeps
00:38:21.88\00:38:23.81
going on and off and
somebody says once well
00:38:23.84\00:38:26.23
when you look at when
you look at that light
00:38:26.26\00:38:28.26
it's sending a
decoded message, Moscode,
00:38:28.29\00:38:30.54
but nobody is
manipulating the lamp, yeah.
00:38:30.57\00:38:33.14
So this must be a
spiritualistic force,
00:38:33.17\00:38:34.63
even UFOs, UFO,
even the UFO programs out
00:38:34.66\00:38:37.54
these days or they are
on everyday just about, but
00:38:37.57\00:38:39.78
people failed to
realize that behind all of this
00:38:39.81\00:38:42.93
is as an enemy who
has gone so far as in this
00:38:42.96\00:38:47.95
way we are heading
with the program who
00:38:47.98\00:38:49.66
has gone so far as
even in stilling into his
00:38:49.69\00:38:52.31
arsenal ministers
and even the patterns
00:38:52.34\00:38:57.54
of Christianity,
that's right. Let's go
00:38:57.57\00:38:59.50
with the text and
then we would bounce
00:39:00.05\00:39:01.29
this back and forth
here. 2nd Corinthians
00:39:01.32\00:39:04.60
chapter 11 and verse 13,
00:39:04.63\00:39:06.29
very powerful text
because lot of times people
00:39:06.32\00:39:08.99
say well, he can't be
lying to me he is a minister.
00:39:09.02\00:39:13.38
Well, the Bible has
a different approach
00:39:14.21\00:39:16.64
to that. 2nd
Corinthians chapter 11 verse 13
00:39:16.67\00:39:21.12
and verse 14, you
got that John read that
00:39:21.15\00:39:24.08
for us and, then
you know I read away
00:39:24.11\00:39:27.08
something there,
verse 13, yeah it says, for
00:39:27.11\00:39:30.36
such our false
apostles, deceitful workers,
00:39:30.39\00:39:34.64
transforming themselves
into apostles of Christ.
00:39:35.47\00:39:38.10
Okay before you got
to the verse so you find
00:39:38.13\00:39:39.79
transforming, another
word what they are and
00:39:39.82\00:39:44.39
what they look like,
a two different things,
00:39:44.42\00:39:46.46
two different things.
What they look like ministers
00:39:46.49\00:39:48.88
for Christ
apostles for Christ, right.
00:39:48.91\00:39:50.71
And no wonder verse
14, for Satan himself
00:39:51.43\00:39:54.51
transforms himself
into an angel of light,
00:39:54.54\00:39:57.03
therefore it is no
great thing if his ministers
00:39:58.63\00:40:02.77
also transform
themselves in the ministers
00:40:02.80\00:40:05.65
of righteousness
whose end will be according
00:40:05.68\00:40:08.13
to their works. You
know John one of the first
00:40:08.16\00:40:10.74
things I think about you know,
00:40:10.77\00:40:12.21
when I think things
like that are miracle
00:40:12.24\00:40:15.69
working ministers. I
don't say that there aren't
00:40:15.72\00:40:20.27
miracles today, okay
we know miracles happen
00:40:20.30\00:40:22.73
still, but you
know some have said how
00:40:22.76\00:40:26.41
do you know whether or
not a miracle is of God?
00:40:26.44\00:40:29.92
How do you know if
someone really is of God
00:40:31.24\00:40:33.07
and the Bible is
pretty clear of how you know
00:40:33.87\00:40:36.22
somebody is from God or if not,
00:40:37.05\00:40:39.16
and if you can find
that text if you would like
00:40:39.82\00:40:43.27
to allow the
testimony but as we think about
00:40:43.30\00:40:47.37
that God's ministers
lift up his word, right,
00:40:47.40\00:40:52.36
they focus on his
word because the word
00:40:52.39\00:40:53.94
is the truth about
God and so let no one
00:40:53.97\00:40:57.37
anybody that tries
to break down the word
00:40:57.40\00:40:59.49
to say well you know
it's stories that are old
00:40:59.52\00:41:02.39
or you know it may
not be exactly accurate
00:41:02.42\00:41:05.09
it's been you know
handed down for so many
00:41:05.12\00:41:06.65
thousands of years or
anybody that tries to break
00:41:06.68\00:41:09.46
down God's word is
really a minister of
00:41:09.49\00:41:13.06
unrighteousness, of
unrighteousness that's
00:41:13.09\00:41:14.77
right. Is the minister
that is working on the side
00:41:14.80\00:41:16.97
of deception to
break down the word of God
00:41:17.00\00:41:20.51
and his truth?
And, so anyway we,
00:41:20.54\00:41:24.08
as we see this
battle shape up this great
00:41:24.11\00:41:27.19
controversy you've
already mentioned that
00:41:27.22\00:41:28.68
shape up clearly the
battle this coming from
00:41:28.71\00:41:31.42
the enemy of spiritualism
has entered the church,
00:41:31.45\00:41:35.64
and the church is
it doesn't recognize
00:41:36.51\00:41:39.11
it to a great degree the
church of large Chrisendom,
00:41:39.14\00:41:41.69
doesn't realize
the deception the death
00:41:42.46\00:41:44.52
of the deception upon
which it is being levied
00:41:44.55\00:41:47.78
upon them, when we
read the text when you just
00:41:47.81\00:41:50.68
read that text in 2nd
Corinthians 11 verse 13,
00:41:50.71\00:41:53.04
14 or 12 to 14 I believe it was.
00:41:53.07\00:41:55.94
One thing I wonder just
bring it to this picture
00:41:57.58\00:42:00.08
right now is that Paul
was correct when he says
00:42:00.11\00:42:04.79
"we wrestle not
against flesh and blood",
00:42:04.82\00:42:08.04
but against
principalities, against powers,
00:42:09.07\00:42:11.42
against the rulers of
the darkness of this world,
00:42:11.45\00:42:15.03
against spiritual
wickedness and some of the
00:42:15.06\00:42:18.37
translations says
in heavenly places what
00:42:18.40\00:42:20.59
it meant is in high
places and when you look
00:42:20.62\00:42:23.71
at that in the Old
Testament comparison
00:42:23.74\00:42:25.44
just put that
phrase high places.
00:42:25.47\00:42:27.76
You will discover
that high places met that
00:42:27.79\00:42:30.32
in the mountains and in
the groves where the altars
00:42:30.35\00:42:32.65
of God were, the
altars of God were either torn
00:42:32.68\00:42:35.89
down or right next
to the altars of God
00:42:35.92\00:42:38.99
where false altars
built, right next to the altars
00:42:39.02\00:42:43.08
of God false, by
the church of the dead,
00:42:43.11\00:42:45.30
by the people of the
God, by the ones that God
00:42:45.33\00:42:47.92
had called they built by
those altars of God false
00:42:47.95\00:42:51.72
altars either to
Malico or Baal or to Ashtoreth
00:42:51.75\00:42:55.64
or to you name it the
Gods of the Old Testament,
00:42:55.67\00:42:59.73
false Gods of the Old
Testament and they led
00:42:59.76\00:43:02.01
people into this
spiritualistic worship,
00:43:02.04\00:43:03.79
but it was worship
and so when you look
00:43:03.82\00:43:07.05
at that text that we
just read there don't be
00:43:07.08\00:43:09.63
surprise for Satan
transforms himself into an
00:43:09.66\00:43:12.01
angel of light I can
help to think about all these
00:43:12.04\00:43:14.40
many accounts where people said.
00:43:14.43\00:43:15.56
Well I died and I
went toward the light
00:43:16.50\00:43:20.86
and when you follow
the account just that they
00:43:24.03\00:43:25.87
give you know my
soul left my body they say
00:43:25.90\00:43:28.98
and this is not
scriptural but I went toward
00:43:29.01\00:43:31.11
the light, I embarrassed
by the light it was the book
00:43:31.14\00:43:34.16
that was written,
and all these phenomenon
00:43:34.19\00:43:36.95
and what is amazing
to me is many years ago
00:43:36.98\00:43:39.47
and I am talking
20 or more years ago
00:43:39.50\00:43:41.61
you didn't have
that kind of phenomenon
00:43:41.64\00:43:43.32
talked about but it
seems to it about 20 years ago
00:43:43.35\00:43:45.75
or sooner it just
seems to have mushroomed
00:43:45.78\00:43:48.61
into all these
programs talking about dying and
00:43:48.64\00:43:52.16
going towards the
light, embraced by the light,
00:43:52.19\00:43:54.59
angels in the outfield,
touched by an angel and
00:43:54.62\00:43:57.95
then all of the
sudden people were saying
00:43:58.93\00:44:00.21
well I want to have
him came back and we had
00:44:00.24\00:44:02.23
a talk with an
angel and it was Jesus and
00:44:02.26\00:44:04.70
I saw him but he send
me back and I am thinking
00:44:04.73\00:44:07.35
Satan is working so
much of his art of deception
00:44:07.38\00:44:11.05
that some of them have
come back with messages
00:44:11.08\00:44:13.47
that contradict,
strongly contradict the Bible
00:44:13.50\00:44:17.24
and they say but
the Lord told me I know
00:44:18.33\00:44:20.16
this is here in Bible
but the Lord told me and
00:44:20.19\00:44:21.97
that's the angel of
light that thing appear to me.
00:44:22.00\00:44:25.82
You know, and just a
quick reference to some
00:44:25.85\00:44:28.35
of the deception
there of that we know
00:44:28.38\00:44:29.93
that prior to, well
1st Corinthians 15 towards
00:44:29.96\00:44:33.61
the end of that
chapter it says that we will
00:44:33.64\00:44:35.46
have a change that
comes that our moral bodies
00:44:35.49\00:44:37.96
will put on
immortality and from that point
00:44:37.99\00:44:41.25
on we will be
righteous you know in God side
00:44:41.28\00:44:43.95
now prior to that time
we know that God dwells
00:44:43.98\00:44:46.02
in unapproachable
light. So we cannot approach
00:44:46.05\00:44:50.61
God prior to that time
which is the resurrection
00:44:50.64\00:44:54.05
at the end of 1st
Corinthians 15 right
00:44:54.79\00:44:56.31
around verse 51 to 55,
and so when we hear stories
00:44:56.34\00:45:00.45
or when we hear people
tell us story well I went,
00:45:00.48\00:45:02.55
I had this clear you
know picture of going
00:45:02.58\00:45:06.49
towards the light that
God call me into the light.
00:45:06.52\00:45:08.66
You know, I say
right then they contradicts
00:45:08.69\00:45:10.97
the scriptures
which says that God dwells
00:45:11.00\00:45:12.91
an unapproachable
light, especially time the time
00:45:12.94\00:45:15.66
prior to when our
change actually occurs,
00:45:15.69\00:45:18.12
that's right in
1st Corinthians 15,
00:45:18.15\00:45:20.26
and all this comes
together and I mentioned
00:45:20.29\00:45:22.83
this text earlier I
read a piece of it but
00:45:22.86\00:45:25.19
its Isaiah speaking of
the light Isaiah 8 verse 20,
00:45:25.22\00:45:29.86
says to the Law and
to the testimony that is
00:45:31.07\00:45:34.11
the law which was
often spoke of as the first
00:45:34.14\00:45:38.06
five books of the Old
Testament which was the
00:45:38.09\00:45:41.51
Pentateuch, okay
that law and the testimony
00:45:41.54\00:45:44.63
also of the prophets
okay the prophets of God
00:45:44.66\00:45:47.78
that we find in the
books throughout the scriptures
00:45:47.81\00:45:50.20
as well, if they don't
it says if they don't speak
00:45:50.23\00:45:53.12
according to this
word that's the word of God
00:45:53.15\00:45:55.31
it is because there
is no light in them.
00:45:55.34\00:46:00.18
So anyone that speaks
or say something contrary
00:46:01.57\00:46:04.64
to God's word, he is a
minister of unrighteousness,
00:46:04.67\00:46:08.57
there are the ones
that are working the error
00:46:08.60\00:46:10.57
in opposition to the
true light of the Gospel.
00:46:10.60\00:46:14.26
And when Jesus gave
when this text was given
00:46:15.02\00:46:17.05
by the Lord here in
Isaiah 8 verse 20, I was
00:46:17.08\00:46:19.35
amazed that the
context was just as powerful
00:46:20.76\00:46:23.75
in the protection
against spiritualism.
00:46:23.78\00:46:25.97
You see the law of God
is also a protection against
00:46:26.00\00:46:28.34
spiritualism
because verse 19 was talking
00:46:28.37\00:46:31.19
about that very
working art of spiritualism.
00:46:31.22\00:46:34.55
Let me read it to you,
and when they say to you
00:46:34.58\00:46:37.27
this is in Isaiah 8
verse 19 and when they say
00:46:37.30\00:46:39.67
to you seek those who
are mediums and wizards,
00:46:39.70\00:46:43.73
who whisper and
murder should not a people
00:46:45.65\00:46:49.35
seek their God,
should they seek the dead
00:46:49.38\00:46:52.79
on behalf of the
living, that's right,
00:46:52.82\00:46:54.90
you see and that's why
when this text was given
00:46:55.58\00:46:57.41
it was given us a
protection against being drawn
00:46:57.44\00:47:00.14
and by spiritualism
being drawn and by séances
00:47:00.17\00:47:04.04
or contacting the dead
or conjuring up spirits,
00:47:04.07\00:47:08.99
familiar spirits as it
where, which we get the
00:47:09.54\00:47:11.58
word family, where
people sometimes say I know
00:47:11.61\00:47:14.13
my mom and dad die
but I went to see a
00:47:14.16\00:47:16.12
spirit today and I
saw my mom and she gave
00:47:16.67\00:47:20.81
me a message, oh,
that's not your mother
00:47:22.72\00:47:23.69
that's a familiar
spirit, that's right.
00:47:23.70\00:47:24.91
And that's what the
Bible was saying here,
00:47:24.94\00:47:26.72
don't go after
people that wizards,
00:47:26.75\00:47:28.99
which is a witch, a
male witch or mediums
00:47:30.14\00:47:34.44
a medium is a person
that says they are between
00:47:34.47\00:47:36.73
you and the dead
that person of the middle
00:47:36.76\00:47:39.81
that's why they called
the medium they are between
00:47:39.84\00:47:41.89
the living they say in
the dead or now if your mom
00:47:41.92\00:47:45.83
or your dad who has
died is not talking to you
00:47:45.86\00:47:48.84
then who is sending
messages, that's right.
00:47:48.87\00:47:51.89
Now John what
about this question?
00:47:52.37\00:47:53.34
Answer this and
then go on, okay.
00:47:53.36\00:47:55.07
They sometimes say
well nobody could have
00:47:55.75\00:47:58.04
known that but my
mother what your answer
00:47:58.07\00:48:00.49
to that? Well I
mean how easier it is it
00:48:00.52\00:48:02.33
for the devil and
his angels who know every
00:48:02.36\00:48:04.50
word that you've ever
said in your lifetime,
00:48:04.53\00:48:07.07
you ever experience
you've had to know exactly
00:48:07.10\00:48:09.10
how to use it.
Exactly, ammunition,
00:48:10.03\00:48:12.04
it's just so easy for
them to reproduce that.
00:48:12.07\00:48:14.46
Now, but I think
what is even more amazing
00:48:14.49\00:48:16.78
of this verse in Isaiah
you talked about you know
00:48:16.81\00:48:19.90
the mediums and
spirits and that kind of thing
00:48:19.93\00:48:21.70
what is common to
all of them is the light,
00:48:22.65\00:48:24.71
there is they are going
to the light or they saw
00:48:25.70\00:48:27.70
a light or there is a
shadow of light around the
00:48:27.73\00:48:29.87
person that they see
in the sands or there
00:48:29.90\00:48:32.59
is a light that appeared to them
00:48:32.80\00:48:33.77
and here it says
there is no light in them.
00:48:33.78\00:48:37.35
I think the first no
light in them is trying
00:48:37.38\00:48:40.43
to tell us more than
just no light of God,
00:48:40.46\00:48:42.54
it saying that these
people are saying I went
00:48:42.57\00:48:45.40
to the light and this
verse is saying no, no,
00:48:45.43\00:48:47.97
no, no, no there was
no light of God there,
00:48:48.00\00:48:50.43
that's right, that's
a very good application.
00:48:50.46\00:48:52.57
I never saw that in
that way their before,
00:48:52.60\00:48:54.55
but it's pretty clear,
because they went to get
00:48:54.58\00:48:56.73
light but there
is no light in them,
00:48:56.76\00:48:58.89
there you go they
went to get knowledge
00:48:58.92\00:49:01.02
but there is no
knowledge in them,
00:49:01.05\00:49:02.38
by the way they
goes back to the tree
00:49:02.41\00:49:04.08
of the knowledge
of good and evil and
00:49:04.11\00:49:05.82
knowledge that God
never intended for us to have.
00:49:05.85\00:49:07.95
You don't have to
have the knowledge
00:49:07.98\00:49:09.45
of let me just use an
application you don't have
00:49:09.48\00:49:11.66
to get drunk in
order to appreciate not
00:49:11.69\00:49:13.88
getting drunk, you
don't have to be an alcoholic
00:49:13.91\00:49:16.05
or smoke or drink or
take drugs or do anything
00:49:16.08\00:49:19.51
elicit to say oh I
appreciate not doing that.
00:49:19.54\00:49:22.43
Matter of fact, sometimes
we glorify that so much
00:49:22.46\00:49:24.97
of people that have
been delivered from that we
00:49:25.00\00:49:27.15
almost make those
who never done it appears
00:49:27.18\00:49:29.14
though that they
well you miss something
00:49:29.17\00:49:30.83
or I really appreciate
been a Christian because
00:49:30.86\00:49:33.09
I used to be so bad,
you don't have to go to the
00:49:33.12\00:49:35.45
tree of the
knowledge of evil in order to
00:49:35.48\00:49:37.80
appreciate the
knowledge of good or the light
00:49:37.83\00:49:40.37
of God. And when you
say that, this light that
00:49:40.40\00:49:44.14
they say they have
I don't want to run
00:49:44.17\00:49:46.30
past that statement of
the fact that you talked
00:49:46.33\00:49:48.72
about Jesus dwells in
an unapproachable light,
00:49:48.75\00:49:51.54
I want to actually read
the text because somebody
00:49:51.57\00:49:54.52
watching this
program may have themselves
00:49:54.55\00:49:57.80
either heard about it
or may have said themselves
00:49:57.83\00:50:00.91
I thought I was dead,
I saw this great light.
00:50:02.35\00:50:04.32
And we can go toward
that light until we are made
00:50:05.42\00:50:07.62
immortal that's what
you are talking about,
00:50:07.65\00:50:09.97
yeah, but here is
the text 1st Corinthians,
00:50:10.76\00:50:12.97
First Timothy 6 and
verse 16 and it's speaks about
00:50:13.64\00:50:16.63
God it says who only
has immortality dwelling
00:50:16.66\00:50:21.83
in the light which
no man can approach unto
00:50:21.86\00:50:26.72
whom no man has
seen nor can see,
00:50:27.78\00:50:32.27
get that again,
dwelling in an unapproachable
00:50:32.30\00:50:35.82
light which no man can approach,
00:50:35.85\00:50:37.73
whom no man has
seen nor can see.
00:50:38.99\00:50:42.67
So if you are saying a
light and you are saying
00:50:43.35\00:50:45.81
you've been
embraced by God and he sent
00:50:45.84\00:50:48.43
you back I must on
the word of God say that,
00:50:48.46\00:50:51.54
that's not the light
of Jesus because mortals
00:50:51.57\00:50:55.55
cannot approach
in immortal light,
00:50:55.58\00:50:58.01
because only
God has immortality.
00:50:59.42\00:51:00.75
We will be consumed by
that flame which Lord is,
00:51:00.78\00:51:04.64
that's right, that's
right. It would be so bright;
00:51:04.67\00:51:05.82
you couldn't not
approach it, right and this is
00:51:05.85\00:51:09.19
God's word really
wants to protect us from this
00:51:09.22\00:51:12.65
and so we read in 1st
John 4 verse 1 beloved
00:51:13.58\00:51:15.99
do not believe every
spirit, but do what John
00:51:16.02\00:51:20.19
test or try the spirits,
whether they are of God,
00:51:20.85\00:51:25.33
because many false
prophets have gone out
00:51:26.36\00:51:27.87
into the world.
You see, false prophets
00:51:27.90\00:51:30.53
and false teachings
and these ministers of
00:51:30.56\00:51:33.27
unrighteousness have
come into the church have
00:51:33.30\00:51:35.47
gone out into the
world and they are teaching
00:51:35.50\00:51:37.16
these things that are not right,
00:51:37.19\00:51:38.30
and so God's word says
don't believe everything
00:51:38.33\00:51:41.36
you hear test it, that's right,
00:51:41.39\00:51:44.19
test the spirits that
they say they are communicating
00:51:44.22\00:51:47.27
with or even test
the things that they are
00:51:47.30\00:51:50.19
teaching you by the
word of God, because
00:51:50.22\00:51:53.33
if you don't you could
fall into that hypnotism
00:51:53.36\00:51:58.07
or hypnotic
spiritualistic kind of thing
00:51:58.10\00:52:01.68
that we are talking
about we don't understand,
00:52:01.71\00:52:03.20
I wish people
could understand how
00:52:03.23\00:52:05.03
strong this is.
The children nowadays
00:52:05.06\00:52:08.88
I feel badly for many
of the children nowadays
00:52:08.91\00:52:11.05
because what turn
them to cartoon there
00:52:11.08\00:52:14.67
is so much, I want
to open the door we may
00:52:14.70\00:52:17.38
do this on one of
the programs coming up
00:52:17.41\00:52:18.91
kind of just go down the
list of some of the things
00:52:18.94\00:52:20.81
that children
should be aware of,
00:52:20.84\00:52:22.03
because in thumbing
to television I had the
00:52:22.90\00:52:25.26
occasion to stop at
one of those channels
00:52:25.29\00:52:26.94
you know I don't know if
it was Nickelodeon or what,
00:52:27.62\00:52:29.33
I don't know I don't
want to label the channel
00:52:29.36\00:52:30.64
because there are some
good things but I notice
00:52:31.50\00:52:33.68
how evil some of the
shows are you know Gargoyles
00:52:33.71\00:52:37.12
and Demons and
these contorted creatures
00:52:37.15\00:52:40.29
that kids are trying
to look at as role models
00:52:40.32\00:52:43.49
and they want to be
the superhero but when
00:52:43.52\00:52:45.83
we were being raised
you know we had, okay,
00:52:45.86\00:52:48.33
mine we had Iron Man
and we had Incredible Hulk
00:52:48.36\00:52:52.21
they are really fallen
to a category of righteous
00:52:52.24\00:52:55.58
heroes, that's right,
but nowadays it's become
00:52:55.61\00:52:58.17
so demonic and further yet.
00:52:58.20\00:53:00.07
This demonic and you see
there is something behind
00:53:00.10\00:53:04.48
that and I believe
Revelation puts this from
00:53:04.51\00:53:08.57
right on the button
when it reads as follows.
00:53:08.60\00:53:11.18
And go with me to
Revelation chapter 16,
00:53:11.21\00:53:13.50
and the reason I am
doing this when we talked
00:53:14.70\00:53:16.62
about the Babylon
what makes the Babylon
00:53:16.65\00:53:20.43
this is so much a part
of it Revelation chapter 16
00:53:22.49\00:53:24.70
and verse 13 and
verse 14, I saw and I saw
00:53:25.60\00:53:32.12
three unclean
spirits like frogs,
00:53:32.15\00:53:35.46
remember you
said try the spirits,
00:53:35.49\00:53:37.21
because lot of people
say I am under the influence
00:53:37.96\00:53:39.10
of the spirit my
question is I don't doubt
00:53:39.13\00:53:41.30
that but which one,
okay. And it says I saw three
00:53:41.33\00:53:46.83
unclean spirits like
frogs coming out of the mouth
00:53:46.86\00:53:49.11
of the dragon, we
know who that is Satan.
00:53:49.14\00:53:51.96
Out of the mouth of
the beast in this context
00:53:53.27\00:53:56.04
is talking about the
beast rising above the earth
00:53:57.07\00:53:59.36
and out of the mouth
of the false prophet,
00:53:59.39\00:54:01.48
so you find a three full union.
00:54:01.51\00:54:03.63
Spiritualism is very
much a part of that look
00:54:04.58\00:54:08.03
at verse 14 for they
unitedly are the spirits
00:54:08.06\00:54:13.40
of demons performing
signs or working miracles
00:54:13.43\00:54:17.32
as the King James
version says which go out
00:54:17.35\00:54:20.13
to the kings of the
earth and of the whole world
00:54:20.16\00:54:23.10
to gather them to the
battle of that great day
00:54:23.13\00:54:25.81
of God almighty. So
Satan is pulling the world
00:54:25.84\00:54:28.45
together down
this path of demons
00:54:28.48\00:54:31.23
and he is going
to the leaders, he is
00:54:32.37\00:54:34.17
going to the people and
he is getting them ready
00:54:35.27\00:54:37.86
for this final
battle, he is getting them
00:54:37.89\00:54:41.40
ready for his final
battle and by the way
00:54:41.43\00:54:43.36
he is not battling
against Era, he is battling
00:54:44.62\00:54:47.60
against truth, and so
what do you think about
00:54:47.63\00:54:51.59
that John? Well,
Jude go one book before
00:54:51.62\00:54:54.03
that okay Jude just
one chapter there verses 3
00:54:54.06\00:54:57.29
and 4 says beloved
well I was very diligent
00:54:58.99\00:55:01.63
to write to you
concerning our common salvation
00:55:01.66\00:55:03.87
I found it
necessary, necessary what is
00:55:04.85\00:55:08.04
that word? Oh,
absolutely important,
00:55:08.07\00:55:10.55
absolutely
important, she is got to deliver
00:55:10.58\00:55:12.03
this message. He
says it's necessary
00:55:12.06\00:55:14.17
to write you, exhorting
you to contend earnestly
00:55:14.20\00:55:16.99
for the faith which
was once for all delivered
00:55:17.02\00:55:19.70
to the saints. Now
why look at verse 4,
00:55:19.73\00:55:22.87
for certain men
have crept in unnoticed,
00:55:23.89\00:55:26.85
who long ago were marked
out for this condemnation
00:55:27.97\00:55:30.33
ungodly man who
turn the grace of our God
00:55:30.36\00:55:34.14
into lewdness and
deny the only Lord God
00:55:34.17\00:55:37.61
and our lord Jesus Christ.
00:55:37.64\00:55:38.78
I think the new
international version says
00:55:38.81\00:55:41.94
the immortal for this
condemnation they turned
00:55:43.61\00:55:45.00
the grace of God into
licentiousness or being
00:55:45.03\00:55:48.22
a license of immorality,
and so what they are doing
00:55:48.25\00:55:51.99
when they get in, he
is trying to teach the
00:55:52.02\00:55:55.57
church things that are not true,
00:55:55.60\00:55:57.73
things that are
immoral. Now not blatantly
00:55:57.76\00:56:00.34
immoral, it would be
hard for pastor to have
00:56:00.37\00:56:02.39
success coming
into the church saying,
00:56:02.42\00:56:03.83
you can have
adultery, you can have sex
00:56:04.76\00:56:06.25
with anybody you
want to, you can't really
00:56:06.28\00:56:08.62
you are not having to
get lay with that, right,
00:56:08.65\00:56:09.71
but you want to come in
and you might be suggesting
00:56:09.74\00:56:12.93
or teaching something's
that might take people
00:56:12.96\00:56:15.44
a step closer to
spiritualism or the realm
00:56:15.47\00:56:18.52
that opens the
door for spiritualism
00:56:18.55\00:56:21.19
to work it's best, that's right.
00:56:21.22\00:56:22.63
As we, as we identified
this foundation of spiritualism
00:56:22.66\00:56:26.32
we have to give it
some definition here.
00:56:26.35\00:56:28.09
First of all
spiritualism is self exaltation
00:56:29.00\00:56:31.51
that's how the
controversy between good
00:56:31.54\00:56:33.98
and evil began,
Satan saw to exalt himself,
00:56:34.01\00:56:36.86
any system or any
person exalting themselves
00:56:36.89\00:56:39.22
or what they have
above God is laying
00:56:39.25\00:56:42.03
a foundation for spiritualism.
00:56:42.06\00:56:43.31
The father of
spiritualism is the devil,
00:56:44.28\00:56:45.75
the dragon, the
serpent, you give whatever
00:56:45.78\00:56:48.50
title you would
like to have to that.
00:56:48.53\00:56:49.77
What is the basis
spiritualism, the immortality
00:56:51.47\00:56:54.34
of man's nature
and we're gonna unfold
00:56:54.37\00:56:56.78
some more as we go
on but what do you think
00:56:56.81\00:56:58.82
John this is a good
topic? Yeah, I think it's one
00:56:58.85\00:57:01.51
that we need to do, we
needed to do for a while
00:57:01.54\00:57:04.63
because it's so
prevalent today and if it so
00:57:04.66\00:57:07.27
prevalent today that
we know that the Devil
00:57:07.30\00:57:08.82
is gonna work
through this right down
00:57:08.85\00:57:10.19
at the end of time,
we need to make sure that
00:57:10.22\00:57:12.21
people know about it.
And, you will see how much
00:57:12.24\00:57:14.57
the deception is
existing today and we're gonna
00:57:14.60\00:57:17.85
even open the
doors to show you how
00:57:17.88\00:57:19.28
it's existing in
the Christian church.
00:57:19.31\00:57:22.16
So, stay tune to
house calls continued
00:57:22.19\00:57:25.24
to pray that when
the Lord comes you
00:57:25.27\00:57:27.70
won't be a part of
those who are deceived
00:57:27.73\00:57:29.30
you will be
ready to meet he Lord,
00:57:29.33\00:57:30.99
have Him in your
life and begin today.
00:57:31.74\00:57:33.57
isting today and we're gonna
00:57:33.60\00:57:34.57
even open the
doors to show you how
00:57:34.58\00:57:35.55
it's existing in
the Christian church.
00:57:35.56\00:57:36.53
So, stay tune to
house calls continued
00:57:36.54\00:57:37.51
to pray that when
the Lord comes you
00:57:37.52\00:57:38.49