Hello friends, grab
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and sit back as
we explore God's word
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together on this
edition of House Calls.
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Hello friends,
welcome to another beautiful
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day in God's word.
Anytime you open the
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book the weather is
fine, and we're going to enjoy
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ourselves as we
continue our journey through the
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book of
Revelation, through the Great
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Controversy, through
the pages of scripture that
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always have a
message for us today.
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So thank you for tuning
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ever miss a House
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I got it. I am not by
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I know that, I have my
good friend John Stanton
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with me. Good to
have you here John.
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It's good to be
here John with you again.
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I like that shirt.
Yeah, I like your shirt too
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you know we're blue, I
guess you got the memo.
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Good to have you here.
You know we're going to
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continue on this
great topic of the Great
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Controversy, and we
know that you've chosen
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to tune in because you
just couldn't wait till this
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program came along
since we laid so much
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foundation on the
last one, but you know what
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before we do anything
we always have prayer.
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So John, would you
pray for us. Let's do that.
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Our Father in Heaven,
once again its time for
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a program where we open
up your word and seek to
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understand more deeply
your plan for us and how
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you're trying to
redeem and save this world.
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Lord, we just pray that
as we talk about this Great
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Controversy that many
out there don't understand
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the battle that truly
is taking place behind the
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scenes, and we just pray
for you to send your spirit
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to give us the words to
share and give those who
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are viewing, who
are watching, who are
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listening the
ability to understand and to
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read along with us, so
that we can more identify
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what the enemy is
doing and how you are seeking
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to work in us to oppose
him and to get this last
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message out to the
world. Thank you Lord for what
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you're going to
do here in Jesus name
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we pray, amen,
amen. As you know we have
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Bible questions, we
always enjoy Bible questions,
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and so if you have
any of those questions
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you'd like to send
to us, send those Bible
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questions to
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That's housecalls@3abn.org.
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and we will try our
best to go to that website,
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type in send and
receive and we'll download your
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questions, but if there
are those of you who still like
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the method called snail
mail, you can send those
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too, we would read it.
But try your best to not
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write in hieroglyphics.
John, I have some people
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that have beautiful handwriting,
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but I have to send it
to Egypt to get it decoded.
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Try to write it so
that we could read it,
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we appreciate it very much.
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What do you have for us John?
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What's our first
question for today?
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Well I've got a question
from Brian, and he's from
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New Hampshire, sounds
so terrific, well he writes
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in a good question
here. He says God's promises
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are often conditional,
the nation of Israel is a
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good example, and with
that being said, here's my
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question, isn't Christ
promised to return to get
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us conditional and that he
told us all about the signs
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of the nearness of
this coming, but said in
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Matthew 24:14 that
this gospel of the kingdom
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shall be preached in the
whole world for a witness
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unto all the nations,
and then the end would come.
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Isn't Christ waiting for
this generation to get the
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gospel to the whole
world because he wants to
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come, but cannot until we do the
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work entrusted to
us. Won't God bury this
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generation and raise
up another and so on until
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his people do what he commanded.
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Now that our SDA
church counts by people
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groups instead of
countries where we're
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about half way to
completing the great
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commission, that's not
too encouraging, even if this
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does not make into
your show please reply it
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by e-mail, okay. Thank
you very much Brian for
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your question. You know
the first thing I want to
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say about the encouraging
part, I was encouraged
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recently because the
reviews send out in their
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news a little blurb
on how that last year the
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Adventist Church
grew by one million, amen.
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And how compared to
fairly recently but years
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ago how we have gained
per capita Adventists to
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world population. So
we are making headway
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if you're looking at
the numbers, okay that's
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just pure
numbers, okay statistician.
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So you know from
that perspective I am
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encouraged, but let me
say this I think Adventist
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to a degree, we often
get so caught up in last day
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events, and how
they're going to unfold that
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we forget maybe or we
miss maybe how God is going
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to work truly. I'm not
talking about the people
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who play a part
in the end of time.
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I think we have the
parties in those identified,
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and we have been blessed
to have those identified to
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us very clearly
through prophecy.
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But I do believe that
to a degree sometimes we
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lock down in our minds
exactly the scenario and
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we try to fit it into
that scenario on our minds,
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those are things that we know.
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That being said
here's what I am pointing at.
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We most of the times as
I've asked congregations,
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what the next significant
in prophetic history is.
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The answer has come
through National Sunday Law,
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we seem to be locked
in to this when is the
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Sunday Law coming,
when is the Sunday Law
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coming thing, and you
know we talked about this
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before, right. And so
we're looking for, okay,
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what political party
needs to be in place, you know
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if this person gets
elected how this might happen.
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We lived the Christian
life for a long time which
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has really lost a lot of
its power, lets admit it, okay.
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The Christian right
has lost a lot of its power
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to a great degree. So
we used to identify them as
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bringing the Sunday
Law in. we talk about these
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secret meetings in
secret rooms about Sabbath,
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and the blue laws
coming about again, you know
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we've talked about
that over and over again.
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But I think we've
missed to a great degree some
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key things in scripture,
okay. And one of those
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things and the part I
am talking about that we've
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missed, okay, is
really summarized in Romans
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9:28, alright.
Romans 9:28 says this,
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for he will finish
the work, speaking of God,
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speaking of Jesus
Christ. He will finish the work
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and cut it short in
righteousness because
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the Lord will make
a short work upon the
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earth, okay. Now that
was a little contrary to our
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question here, the
scenario that one he
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continue it to allow
to pass away, and continue
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on and on until some
generation steps up to
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finish the work, right.
God will finish the work.
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Now what example do we
have of that, I mean you
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know in my mind the
problem with you and
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I John together as while
I am talking you're rolling,
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when you're
talking I am rolling right.
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We're like two marbles
in the gumball machine.
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In my mind I am thinking
of the children of Israel.
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I am thinking of the
nation that he entrusted
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the message to for
thousands of years,
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and they had a lot to
do, and he didn't wait for
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them, they decided to
forfeit it, and so he raised
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up the disciples, yeah.
And you'll find that the
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God has always had
a people, but what the
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confidence is now he
said to us the capping
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off of this thing is
not going to be left to any
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other man, any more
than as Daniel 2:44 says
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that the kingdom
that's going to be established
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is not going to be established
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by other men, right.
God is going to finish
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the work in Romans
9:28, that's right.
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God is going to finish
work, he will finish the
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work and cut it short
in righteousness, so we see
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clearly the example
of fact that God is not
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waiting for man is
when he said in Matthew,
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if the rocks and the
mountains have to cry
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out, it's going to
get done, that's right.
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So, so there is no,
God is not waiting for us.
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Can you imagine the
Lord saying, how much longer
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is going to take you guys,
I really like to come back,
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it's been like three
hundred years overdue.
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God is not doing that,
because the Bible says,
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we don't know
the day nor the hour.
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The angels of heaven
don't know it, but the
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Father knows it.
So he's got that date
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where he is going to
return and the events Isaiah 49.
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I believe its Isaiah
49:12 if I'm not correct
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I will go and look it
up. He says I'm the Lord
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God, declaring the
end from the beginning and
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from ancient times
things that are not yet done
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saying I will do all of
my will or I'll accomplish
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all of my will, so God
is in control of this thing.
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Yes, yes. And what
he, he is indicating here
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and we read it in the
words of Christ, in his,
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in Matthew 24, Luke
21, where what happens is
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the judgments that come
upon the earth at the end
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of time are not
intended to punish us as much as
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they are intended
to wake up the saints.
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And so what I find in
my reading of prophecy is
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that the Sunday
Law comes after the
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judgments of God
begin to be poured out upon
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this earth and the
saints had been awaken or
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at least by those
judgments are called to work.
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And what we also find
even, even in inspiration
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that system why it
even alludes to, how Satan
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himself is here calling
for the Sunday Law to make
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it happen, right.
So knowing those things
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what the real next
significant event we
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should be looking for
is calamity. That's right.
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And that can happen
tomorrow, so the time of
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trouble, the early time
of trouble could be ushered
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in today, tomorrow.
That is the next big
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event and you can't
time that. You can't say well
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the Sunday Law is not
here, so I have a little
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more time to kind of
get right with the Lord.
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You know what, now is
the day, today is the time
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to get ready for the
Lord, because this calamity
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when it comes and
I know you already
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mentioned this
before and what we're
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talking about how, what
we fail to do now in times
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of peace, relative
peace we'll be forced to do
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in times of incredible
stress and severe system,
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severe calamity. So
what I see is that no matter
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what the condition
of God's people are,
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when that calamity
hits, his remnant will
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be called forth to
action. They will engage, they
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will become involved
in the work more seriously
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than they have been
today, that we see today
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and that work will
be finished in quick
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succession
because who's in charge?
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God's in
charge. God's in charge.
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He will use his
armories; he will use his
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warehouses of things
to come upon the earth to
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wake his people up.
They will wake up and this
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work will finish and
you'll find in that period
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of time, the
Sunday Law comes about.
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But it's in response
to what do we do about
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these things
coming upon the earth.
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It won't be some
secret thing that happens
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in a backroom that
all of a sudden we wake up
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and we say whoa,
wow the Sunday Law was
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passed
yesterday, get ready, right.
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We need to get out of
that mind set and get into the
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mind set that, you
know what the end of time
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could come tomorrow.
As far as the day of the
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Lord, the beginning of
the end, and we could be
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facing severe calamity
of which would bring us
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closer and closer to finally
Christ's ultimate return.
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And, and as you look
at the, as you look at
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the train of unfolding events.
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You see that the
Sunday Law has been talked
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about quite often,
quite a bit, referendums and
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people saying well its
important for the family.
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The groundwork is being laid.
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The groundwork is
being laid, the Sunday
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movement as Ellen
White says is making
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its way in
darkness. That's right.
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The leaders are
concealing the true issues
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from the people, and
they themselves do not know
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where the undercurrent
is tending. That's right.
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So, so you could jump
in the river with this
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movement, but as
the undercurrent's gonna
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carry it in the
completely different direction.
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It's gonna turn you up
side down and then they
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would say those
who have been standing
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behind this, you have a
lot of stores that wanna
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stay closed on
Sunday. You have some states
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that wanna pass laws to
prevent shopping on Sunday.
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I did a sermon not too
long ago on this called
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Sunday Mask.
That shows that we're
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in the midst of a
strong push, the people of the
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world, some of them
have even gone so far
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calling Sabbath Sunday
or calling Sunday Sabbath.
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They're just determined
that the world is in the
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condition its in because
they're violating Sunday.
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So you could see that
there will be little spurts
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here and there, but
the one that's gonna come
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and tie it all together
as you just so wonderfully
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put John is when
Satan shows upon the scene
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in the midst of
calamity. He's going to say well
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the answer is, if we
honor this new day of worship
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all these calamities will
seize and those calamities
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according to
First Thessalonians 5,
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listen to this. If
you have Bibles turn to
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First Thessalonians
chapter 5, Jesus says,
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but concerning the times
and the seasons, brethren,
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you have no need that
I should write to you.
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For you yourselves
know perfectly that the day
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of the Lord so comes
as a thief in the night.
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For when they say,
"Peace and safety!"
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then sudden
destruction comes upon them,
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as labor pains
upon a pregnant woman,
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and they shall not
escape. But you, brethren,
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are not in darkness,
so that this day should
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overtake you as a thief.
So we're not in darkness.
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We see what's
happening, we see what's coming.
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The Lord is saying
let the others know
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that this is coming.
That's the responsibility
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we have, but I like
the whole question is whose
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gonna finish the work John?
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Whose's gonna finish the work?
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The Lord's
gonna finish the work.
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Yes, you know and
there is no doubt.
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I understand Brian
who sent this question in.
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There is a lack of
workers, or labors in the
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harvest field. That's
right. You know and we aren't
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doing what we need to
be doing, but God is going
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to not wait for us
to get our act together.
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He's going to bring
about events that put us into
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action, that causes us
to have to respond and to
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move, rather
than just sit back and
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wait for us to
get our act together.
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My mother used to say if
I put some fire under you,
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you'd move. And I think
that the Lord is going to
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do that in a number
of ways. He's going to
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allow the events of the
earth to light up the hearts
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and wake up the sleeping saints.
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Yeah, I believe that's coming.
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Thanks for that John.
It's a very good question.
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This one is from Shelbyville,
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Kentucky and
from the Beach family,
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kind of amazing from
Kentucky and the only
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beach they have there
is a river that's running
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through it, don't have
any ocean. See an ocean
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is a real beach,
but the question is very
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pertinent and I
wanna answer it delicately
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because it says I'm
sure you wouldn't remember
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me and so it seems we
met in 2003, that person
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was a volunteer. Okay
yeah and we had studies
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at Dee's house I
remember that day
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a lot of people were there.
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The question is,
children that died
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before the age of
accountability will
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they be in heaven?
I'm thinking about my
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grand babies who are
not yet two years old
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and whose parents my
sons and daughters have
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not given their hearts
to God. You know what's
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so tough about a
question like this John
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and the person who
wrote the question if
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you listen to
the program let me,
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let me profess
it by saying this.
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My answer
wouldn't determine whether
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they're saved or
whether they're lost,
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because of one major
factor I'm not the judge.
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God is the judge. Whether or not
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you talked about
children that maybe,
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that may die before
the age of accountability.
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My understanding of
it is that the salvation
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of the parents will be
the determining factor;
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you know the
righteousness of the
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mother, the
righteousness of the father.
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The word of hope that
I, I've read in this letter
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is you says, you say
that your son and daughter
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have not yet given
their lives or their hearts to
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God. One of the
things that you may, you may
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have done this before,
but I don't know if you
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say your son and your daughter,
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you know if you give
your heart to the Lord
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you'll see your children again.
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You love your
children and you should give
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your heart to the
Lord. On the other side of
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that, I don't have
any scriptural evidence
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anywhere to
suggest otherwise, but I do
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know that the other
suggested possibility
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would be, it would be
as though these children
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had not been which
means they're not going
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to suffer the fires
of destruction because
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they didn't give
their hearts to the Lord,
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but it's such a
gray area in the topics.
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Let me, let me
strengthen you up by
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saying this, the Lord
has made provision for
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salvation, the Lord has made
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provision for
salvation. We're praying that we
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follow the
conditions for salvation and
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so I honestly this
is one of those John,
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there's no
scriptural answers to this,
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to give you a
particular affirmative,
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yes they're going to
be saved no matter what
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because salvation is
not something that is a no
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matter what situation,
and so we must be born again.
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How does someone who is
not born be saved and then
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Jesus said well his
righteousness will be
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imputed and imparted to them.
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When you don't know
whether or not there
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is a Lord and whether
or not you're going to
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saved. It's a very
hard question to answer,
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but I would say
this, when we get to the
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kingdom, we're not
going to be in heaven
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say, you know it
would have been so much
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better here. If so
and so was here or if
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so and so was here.
I think that the Lord
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in his mercy is
going to make sure that
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everyone who can
be saved, everyone who
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can be saved will be
saved. He's trying to get
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people in not keep them out.
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Not willing that
any should perish.
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That's right, good, good answer.
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You know this
question is kind of an
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encouraging one, at
the same time it's a
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question that we've
received fairly often
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quite a few
questions like this come in.
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And it says it's from
Albert, and he is from
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Papua New Guinea,
oh. And it says that he
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praises the Lord
that 3ABN is now in his
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country, okay. And he
loves all the programs.
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He's a member of
the Pentecostal Church,
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but he says he's
not ashamed to say that
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to the viewers
worldwide that SDA
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preachers teach and
preach truth nothing
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but truth. Praise
the Lord. Without fear or
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favor and they're
not motivated by prior
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circumstances or whatever, amen.
00:19:09.03\00:19:10.89
They are humble and
willing to pay the price
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for proclaiming the
truth, so he is, he is
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impressed. He's
convicted that what
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he's hearing is
truth and praise the Lord,
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so we thank you
Albert for sharing that,
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that's encouraging.
But he has a question here
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too and he says, he,
that is the devil became
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what he is because he
decided to wage war in
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heaven against God and
his angels as a result of
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his pride. Lucifer
was with God in heaven
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commanding the angels
and there was no sin or
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evil in heaven. Who
tricked Lucifer into
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believing that we
would be like God?
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If the answer is his
own pride then where did
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this pride come from,
if there was no evil in
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heaven in the first
place? And so there is a verse,
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a scripture that I like
to kind of start off with
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here and John
maybe you're going to the
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same one. We
often think alike, okay.
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Ezekiel 28:15, Ezekiel
28:15 gets us a little bit
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into the mind and
the heart of Lucifer when
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he had cherished
pride and inequity in it.
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And so I'm turning
here to Ezekiel 28.
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That's right, right
before Daniel. In verse 15,
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lets see. Let's start
off a little earlier here.
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I'll start with verse
11, "Take up a lamentation
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upon the King of
Tyre, and say to him,
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Thus saith the Lord
God; You were the seal
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of perfection, full
of wisdom and perfect in
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beauty. You were
in Eden, the garden of
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God; every
precious stone was your
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covering, the
sardius, topaz, and diamond,
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beryl, onyx, and
jasper, sapphire, turquoise,
00:20:48.68\00:20:51.10
and emerald with
gold: the workmanship of
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your tabrets and pipes
was prepared for you on
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the day that you
created. He was born to leave
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the choir. Oh I like that one.
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And he was an
credible singer. Verse 14,
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"You were the
anointed cherub who covers;
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in other words he was
first in line of the angels.
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I established
you, God put him there.
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you were on the
holy mountain of God,
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you walked back
and forth in the midst
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of the fiery stones.
You were perfect in your
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ways from the day
you were created until
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iniquity was found
in you. That's right.
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There was no iniquity
outside of Satan himself.
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No iniquity outside of
him, iniquity was found
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in Satan himself who
looked in the mirror and
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said and began to
really think of himself as
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being beautiful in
and of himself and pride
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took route. And that
pride that took route,
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he began to think about
it. In fact if you wanna
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know what sin does, I
have said this several
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times and maybe it's a
little confusing to some
00:21:52.98\00:21:54.75
who I've said this to
but I will say it again.
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I don't think that
Satan even understood what
00:21:58.77\00:22:00.96
sin did when it hit
him. He hardly knew what
00:22:00.99\00:22:04.92
hit him when it hit
him, but when sin has a way
00:22:04.95\00:22:09.02
of just destroying
everything it comes in
00:22:09.05\00:22:13.13
contact with, right.
Sin is an animal in itself.
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I'm not saying it's a
thinking thing it's just,
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diabolical in
nature, horrible, diabolical.
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So when it took him
over, when it got a hold
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of him, he hardly knew
what hit him and it just
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he got worse and
worse and worse until he,
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the initiator of sin,
the birth of sin, until he
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became something he
could probably hardly
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conceive of when it
started, before it started.
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But let me read me a
verse here, that I think
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gives us a little bit
of what sin does and what
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sin did to Satan to
say that when iniquity was
00:22:49.06\00:22:52.02
found in him what
had happened as he looked
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upon his own beauty,
okay. James 1, verse 13,
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alright, good
passage. Let no one say when
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he's tempted, I
am tempted by God.
00:23:03.85\00:23:05.91
This applies to Satan
too, right. God didn't
00:23:06.53\00:23:08.87
tempt Satan, God
didn't moved Satan to sin,
00:23:08.90\00:23:11.13
God didn't create
any I didn't hang any
00:23:11.16\00:23:13.91
evil within Satan
himself. carrot in front of him.
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He was perfect. For
God cannot be tempted
00:23:15.26\00:23:17.88
by evil, nor does he
himself tempt anyone,
00:23:18.10\00:23:20.40
and you're right he
didn't hold any carrot
00:23:20.43\00:23:21.79
in front of Satan to
say hey take this 'cause we
00:23:21.82\00:23:23.68
got to get this over with, okay.
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Verse 14, but each
one is tempted when he is
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drawn away by his
own desires, and enticed.
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Then when desire has
conceived, it gives birth
00:23:36.11\00:23:39.29
to sin and sin when
it's full grown bring forth
00:23:39.32\00:23:42.35
death, perfect.
Satan himself began to
00:23:42.38\00:23:47.08
conceive sin by
his own desires and his
00:23:47.11\00:23:49.45
imagination and he
enticed himself right into it.
00:23:49.48\00:23:52.32
Right, his own
desires. His own desires, and
00:23:52.65\00:23:55.32
then when his
desires conceived it says it
00:23:55.35\00:23:57.83
gave birth to sin.
There it was and he couldn't
00:23:57.86\00:24:01.75
turn the course. That
is the easiest explanation
00:24:01.78\00:24:05.61
we can give you for
what happened to Satan
00:24:05.64\00:24:08.65
from the very beginning.
And I believe he had an
00:24:08.68\00:24:12.02
opportunity to turn
back, God wouldn't say
00:24:12.05\00:24:14.18
oh you stepped out of
line, you're out of here.
00:24:14.21\00:24:16.18
He had an opportunity
to turn back but when
00:24:16.63\00:24:18.20
he went point, when
he went beyond the point
00:24:18.23\00:24:20.47
yes, of
reconciliation is when the war,
00:24:20.71\00:24:23.80
we're gonna talk
about that war again in the
00:24:23.83\00:24:25.09
Great Controversy.
If you saw the last
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program, you know
what I'm talking about,
00:24:27.27\00:24:28.71
when you go past the
point of reconciliation,
00:24:29.62\00:24:32.90
when you go past
the point of redemption,
00:24:32.93\00:24:34.69
even in the book
of Hebrews it says for
00:24:35.28\00:24:37.03
those who continue
to sin, there no longer
00:24:37.06\00:24:39.13
remains a sacrifice for
sin, but a certain fearful
00:24:39.16\00:24:41.75
looking for of
the judgment to come.
00:24:41.78\00:24:43.52
So for those who
are just past the point
00:24:43.86\00:24:45.64
of even the appeal of
God. It becomes a practice.
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Yes, and that's why it
says iniquity was found in him.
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There we go. It was cherished.
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This is what I want,
I'm gonna hold on to this
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and God there is
nothing you can do,
00:24:57.95\00:24:59.42
and that's
exactly what the case was.
00:25:00.21\00:25:01.87
When we get to
the point where we are
00:25:02.17\00:25:03.44
beyond God's appeal.
Well God is not going
00:25:03.47\00:25:06.24
to say okay I
have one more choice.
00:25:06.27\00:25:08.08
He doesn't through a
rope out and drag our
00:25:08.29\00:25:09.99
sin against our will
and truly there are some
00:25:10.02\00:25:13.03
people that won't be
in heaven merely because
00:25:13.06\00:25:15.20
of the fact that it
will be hell for them if God
00:25:15.23\00:25:17.52
saved them against their desire.
00:25:17.55\00:25:19.38
So this iniquity
was found in him.
00:25:20.16\00:25:21.62
It was his own
desire that led to his own
00:25:21.82\00:25:24.07
downfall. I do not
believe that God just
00:25:24.10\00:25:26.16
stood by and let
it happen either.
00:25:26.19\00:25:27.59
No, he didn't. I
think that as he began to
00:25:27.62\00:25:29.92
cherish these
thoughts as it says and became,
00:25:29.95\00:25:32.30
they became a desire of
his before he got to the
00:25:32.33\00:25:34.38
point of fully having
iniquity, giving birth to
00:25:34.41\00:25:37.96
iniquity in himself.
But God met with him and
00:25:37.99\00:25:41.37
said Satan this
is what's, I mean
00:25:41.40\00:25:43.64
Lucifer at the
time. This is what's
00:25:43.67\00:25:45.33
happening in you.
The feelings you are
00:25:45.36\00:25:47.06
starting to
experience they're not healthy.
00:25:47.09\00:25:48.73
They are gonna
take you down the wrong
00:25:49.10\00:25:50.11
road, if you go far
with this, if you keep going
00:25:50.14\00:25:52.54
with this, you're
gonna go past the point of
00:25:52.57\00:25:55.06
return to where there
is no way I can redeem you.
00:25:55.09\00:25:58.15
And so Satan began as he
cherished these thoughts.
00:25:58.96\00:26:02.21
He saw both options,
he saw both sides and
00:26:02.65\00:26:05.04
when he finally
made that decision,
00:26:05.07\00:26:06.61
his final decision,
he made it on the side of
00:26:07.40\00:26:10.01
sin, and there
was no turning back.
00:26:10.04\00:26:13.15
But I believe the
Lord, John, was very
00:26:13.85\00:26:15.55
pro-active in
trying to get him to go
00:26:15.58\00:26:18.23
from those desires to
acting on those desires
00:26:19.02\00:26:23.09
and making them his decision.
00:26:23.12\00:26:24.40
Yeah, as you were talking John,
00:26:25.24\00:26:26.47
I looked up a text
here Ecclesiastes 7 in verse
00:26:26.82\00:26:29.34
17 and it says do
not, this is I like the
00:26:29.37\00:26:34.05
way it reads
it. Do not be overly
00:26:34.08\00:26:37.49
wicked, nor be
foolish: Why should you die
00:26:37.52\00:26:41.34
before your time?
So the Lord is saying
00:26:41.37\00:26:43.83
there is a point
of beyond which the
00:26:43.86\00:26:46.47
mercy of God
ceases to chase you.
00:26:46.50\00:26:49.55
Why die before your
time? And years ago,
00:26:49.95\00:26:53.14
I won't mention his
name, but there is a guy
00:26:55.06\00:26:56.30
that wrote a song
called only the good
00:26:56.33\00:26:58.02
die young, I don't
agree, when you're good,
00:26:58.05\00:27:00.88
the Bible says
goodness and mercy shall follow
00:27:01.22\00:27:03.18
you all the days of your life.
00:27:03.21\00:27:04.35
You'll dwell in
the house of the Lord
00:27:05.07\00:27:06.16
forever and the
Bible promises that we will
00:27:06.19\00:27:08.84
have long life as a
blessing, so that idea
00:27:08.87\00:27:11.20
that only the good
die young is kind of
00:27:11.23\00:27:12.76
ridiculous idea, it
was a concept brought up by
00:27:12.79\00:27:15.23
very famous
musician, but Satan passed the
00:27:15.64\00:27:18.59
point of no return
thus God said I can no
00:27:18.62\00:27:22.04
longer do anything for
you. I will not save you
00:27:22.07\00:27:24.20
against your
will. As you were saying
00:27:24.23\00:27:27.63
you know when you're
talking, another text
00:27:27.79\00:27:29.45
pops up, so we got
to keep going with this,
00:27:29.48\00:27:31.14
but First John chapter
5, okay. Beginning with
00:27:31.65\00:27:35.19
verse 16 it says, if
anyone sees his brother
00:27:35.22\00:27:37.09
sinning a sin which
does not lead to death.
00:27:37.12\00:27:38.90
He will ask, and he
will give him life for those
00:27:40.06\00:27:42.26
who commit sin
not leading to death.
00:27:42.37\00:27:43.99
There is sin leading
to death, and I do not say
00:27:44.53\00:27:47.37
that he should pray about that.
00:27:47.40\00:27:48.57
All unrighteousness is
sin, and there is a sin
00:27:49.47\00:27:52.15
leading or not leading
to death. That's right.
00:27:52.18\00:27:55.24
In other words, there
is sin that can occur in
00:27:55.27\00:27:58.71
your heart that
takes you beyond a point
00:27:58.74\00:28:00.95
which there is no
return. Leading to death.
00:28:00.98\00:28:03.54
That leads to death
and you can't even raise
00:28:03.84\00:28:06.23
someone out of that.
They're gone, they've
00:28:06.26\00:28:08.76
gone beyond that.
Because it's their choice.
00:28:08.79\00:28:10.63
They did unpardonable
sin, their choice they
00:28:10.66\00:28:12.07
know it, they
know all the evidence,
00:28:12.10\00:28:14.02
they've got all the
facts and they have clearly
00:28:14.21\00:28:16.89
made a decision that
they do not want God,
00:28:16.92\00:28:18.89
they want this,
wow. And that you cannot
00:28:19.26\00:28:22.01
turn someone back,
that's the unpardonable
00:28:22.04\00:28:23.80
sin when the
Holy Spirit can't even
00:28:23.83\00:28:25.95
impress upon somebody to turn.
00:28:25.98\00:28:27.51
They're even so aware
of their sin that they
00:28:28.14\00:28:30.04
know the Holy
Spirit is working on them
00:28:30.07\00:28:31.40
and they tell the
Holy Spirit go away, right.
00:28:31.43\00:28:33.99
I'm not interested, oh
boy. And that's the part
00:28:34.68\00:28:38.16
that I believe
the Pharisees got to,
00:28:38.19\00:28:39.93
because see the
Pharisees they said
00:28:41.43\00:28:44.42
we're lovers of
evil. When God, when Jesus
00:28:44.45\00:28:48.71
spoke of them, he
said you are, you're like
00:28:48.74\00:28:51.69
your father the
devil. You love evil and
00:28:51.72\00:28:56.12
you've even
invented and think about it,
00:28:56.15\00:28:58.07
and that's what
was in their heart.
00:28:58.58\00:28:59.98
Of course it looked
like they were all clean on
00:29:00.01\00:29:01.27
the outside, but you
see there are several things
00:29:01.30\00:29:03.65
in the Bible that tell
us that you can't go back
00:29:03.68\00:29:05.73
past the point of no return.
00:29:06.16\00:29:08.09
But I will say to
someone who thinks
00:29:08.96\00:29:10.24
that they've
committed the unpardonable sin,
00:29:10.27\00:29:11.74
if they're worried
about having done that.
00:29:12.66\00:29:14.15
I always say well
don't worry about that,
00:29:14.18\00:29:16.03
because if
you're worried about it,
00:29:16.06\00:29:17.15
you haven't gone
there, because you want
00:29:17.90\00:29:20.13
righteousness. You
want God to restore
00:29:20.16\00:29:23.08
you and to put
righteousness back
00:29:23.11\00:29:24.85
within your heart,
right. It's only those who say,
00:29:24.88\00:29:27.22
you know that
righteousness stuff,
00:29:27.25\00:29:28.31
don't want it. I
rather be you know,
00:29:28.34\00:29:32.01
I rather choose sin
and they knowingly do that
00:29:32.04\00:29:34.39
and Satan had gotten
to that point, so anyway.
00:29:34.42\00:29:36.92
That's a good
question. Several different
00:29:36.95\00:29:38.36
aspects of what sin
will do to you, but clearly
00:29:38.39\00:29:41.00
had done to Satan
from the beginning.
00:29:41.03\00:29:42.41
Bottom-line God
didn't do it, Satan chose it.
00:29:42.44\00:29:45.15
That's right. I
think we need to end there
00:29:45.71\00:29:46.78
because, yeah, we
have some topics to cover
00:29:46.81\00:29:48.30
here, but friends
once again thank you
00:29:48.33\00:29:50.11
for you questions.
As you see we try our
00:29:50.14\00:29:52.25
best to come from
all different angles,
00:29:52.28\00:29:54.38
but if you have an
angle that we haven't covered
00:29:54.77\00:29:56.71
or a question that
we, you like an answer to,
00:29:56.74\00:29:59.27
send that question
to housecall@3abn.org.
00:29:59.30\00:30:02.21
That's housecall@3abn.org
00:30:02.24\00:30:04.30
and John and John
will hopefully do their
00:30:04.96\00:30:07.57
best to answer your questions.
00:30:07.60\00:30:08.94
John, we really
had, we do our best to
00:30:09.50\00:30:10.74
hopefully be able to
answer those questions.
00:30:10.77\00:30:12.47
We get a lot of
them. Yeah that's what
00:30:12.92\00:30:14.51
I meant. Is that
what you said, whatever he
00:30:14.54\00:30:17.16
said I agree. We got,
we have a lot of questions
00:30:17.19\00:30:19.78
and we try our best.
We don't always get to
00:30:19.81\00:30:21.77
all of them, but thank
you for sending them in.
00:30:21.80\00:30:24.09
They, our viewers,
our listeners are a big
00:30:24.12\00:30:26.39
part of the program. We
couldn't do this with them.
00:30:26.42\00:30:28.45
And you know we love
to preach, but this is not
00:30:28.76\00:30:30.56
a preach
program, sometimes we get
00:30:30.59\00:30:32.05
excited and get all
fired up and our fireworks
00:30:32.08\00:30:33.96
start going off, but
this is not a preach program,
00:30:33.99\00:30:35.79
because we want you
to stay on top and see
00:30:36.18\00:30:37.66
what the word of God
says which is our segue
00:30:37.69\00:30:40.07
into our topic that
we started on our last
00:30:40.10\00:30:42.79
program, the Great Controversy.
00:30:42.82\00:30:44.66
I wanna go back to
Revelation 12 and if
00:30:45.04\00:30:46.71
you have your
Bibles go there with us,
00:30:46.74\00:30:48.07
Revelation chapter
12, it's funny how the
00:30:48.10\00:30:52.15
woman in
Revelation, the dragon in
00:30:52.18\00:30:55.47
Revelation has
12, what's the number
00:30:55.50\00:31:00.27
there, yeah the
woman had 12 stars on her
00:31:00.30\00:31:02.76
crown, and its in
Revelation chapter 12,
00:31:02.79\00:31:06.32
I'm just trying to
find out. Well we looked at
00:31:06.35\00:31:07.71
the various aspects
of this, the Red Dragon
00:31:07.74\00:31:10.16
being introduced,
how the Jesus was born to
00:31:10.19\00:31:13.93
the woman and how he
attacked and persecuted
00:31:13.96\00:31:17.49
to try and kill this
child, to kill Jesus and how
00:31:17.52\00:31:21.48
war broke out in
heaven, in fact we even
00:31:21.51\00:31:22.88
talked about Genesis.
How war broke out in heaven.
00:31:22.91\00:31:24.99
He was cast to the
earth that serpent, yes.
00:31:25.39\00:31:28.32
And how the serpent
we find in Genesis trying
00:31:28.35\00:31:30.77
to, it deceiving Eve
and of course Adam and
00:31:30.80\00:31:33.94
Eve falling into sin and
I think the last thing we
00:31:33.97\00:31:36.52
talked about was Satan
claimed from that point
00:31:36.55\00:31:40.46
on, Satan claimed
the earth was his.
00:31:40.49\00:31:42.55
Oh okay right.
He claimed the earth
00:31:42.96\00:31:44.77
was his, but God said
not so fast, not so quick.
00:31:44.80\00:31:49.53
And I know that you,
you think that you've
00:31:49.56\00:31:51.95
got everything in
your side here now that say
00:31:51.98\00:31:53.94
Adam and Eve have
fallen, but I'm not done.
00:31:53.97\00:31:55.78
And so the springboard
text, I think we got to
00:31:56.79\00:31:58.56
give today. There's a
couple of, we're gonna
00:31:58.59\00:32:00.03
go to Job chapter 1.
Right but let's finish the
00:32:00.06\00:32:02.21
Genesis story.
Because there's this promise
00:32:02.24\00:32:04.96
there, alright.
Let's look at the promise.
00:32:04.99\00:32:06.48
Look at the screen board text.
00:32:06.67\00:32:07.82
After the fall
here of Adam and Eve.
00:32:09.62\00:32:11.65
Genesis chapter 3.
It's in Genesis chapter 3,
00:32:11.68\00:32:13.83
we're gonna see that
Jesus, God, in Genesis
00:32:14.81\00:32:20.54
is coming to find
Adam and Eve and I believe
00:32:20.57\00:32:24.45
of course he knew
exactly where Adam
00:32:24.48\00:32:25.86
and Eve were, but
he was asking them more
00:32:25.89\00:32:28.80
or less to examine
themselves as to where
00:32:28.83\00:32:30.54
they were and they
had spiritually died.
00:32:30.57\00:32:32.59
We know that and
that death has already
00:32:32.62\00:32:35.15
spiritually began to
take place, but God wanted
00:32:35.18\00:32:38.09
to instill hope and
not just hope for Adam and
00:32:38.12\00:32:40.92
Eve, because all of
us today have Adam and
00:32:40.95\00:32:43.91
Eve as our father, as
our parents and we have
00:32:43.94\00:32:48.42
fallen into sin because of that.
00:32:48.45\00:32:50.67
We are all sinful human beings.
00:32:50.78\00:32:52.38
But God says this
here with regard to
00:32:53.30\00:32:55.94
Adam and Eve and the human race.
00:32:57.88\00:32:59.58
In verse 15, I will
put enmity between you
00:33:00.18\00:33:05.16
and the what? Woman,
woman, now we already
00:33:05.19\00:33:08.39
talked about the woman
in Revelation didn't we.
00:33:08.42\00:33:10.29
The woman being
God's people and between
00:33:10.32\00:33:15.80
your seed and her seed.
My Bible capitalizes that
00:33:15.83\00:33:20.05
because Jesus is
identified here as well.
00:33:20.08\00:33:23.16
But his Satan seed was
not capitalized, but the
00:33:23.19\00:33:25.72
woman seed is, the
woman seed is capitalized
00:33:25.75\00:33:27.84
that's where
Jesus comes through.
00:33:27.87\00:33:29.30
And he shall bruise
your head and you shall
00:33:29.33\00:33:33.05
bruise his heel. So we
find here that a promise
00:33:33.08\00:33:38.29
is given to Adam and
Eve that a seed would
00:33:38.32\00:33:41.45
come through the
woman, the descendants of the
00:33:41.48\00:33:44.38
people of God who
would bring about salvation.
00:33:44.41\00:33:47.19
Satan would attack the
seed, bruise the seed's
00:33:47.22\00:33:50.83
heel, but what in the
end happens is, Satan's
00:33:50.86\00:33:54.58
head is bruised which
are wounded, which is a
00:33:54.61\00:33:57.56
mortal wound that
Satan suffers to finally end
00:33:57.59\00:34:01.40
the controversy.
Go ahead, I'm almost
00:34:01.43\00:34:05.16
without a word.
Hold your peace, okay.
00:34:05.19\00:34:07.38
This is an amazing
thing because you know when
00:34:09.51\00:34:11.08
you talk about this
fall here in Genesis,
00:34:11.11\00:34:13.14
the controversy
is, I want to show two
00:34:13.17\00:34:16.54
comparisons in
Genesis 2 verse 25, the Lord
00:34:16.57\00:34:22.32
joined Adam and Eve
together, that's we call
00:34:22.35\00:34:24.33
the first wedding
there in the Garden of Eden,
00:34:24.36\00:34:26.34
the garden wedding,
but it says in verse 25 and
00:34:26.37\00:34:30.33
they were both
naked, the man and his wife
00:34:30.36\00:34:32.66
and they were not
ashamed, meaning they
00:34:32.69\00:34:35.40
did not need physical
clothing, but they still
00:34:35.43\00:34:37.78
had the glory of God,
right. After they sinned
00:34:37.81\00:34:42.45
their nakedness
now was obvious, yeah.
00:34:42.48\00:34:46.19
It was now visible,
rather than shrouded in
00:34:46.22\00:34:49.93
the glorious light
of God. The nakedness
00:34:49.96\00:34:52.14
that they had was now
visible, because it says
00:34:52.17\00:34:55.16
when the Lord came
to look for them in
00:34:55.19\00:34:59.51
Genesis 3 verse 8 and
they heard the sound of
00:34:59.54\00:35:01.69
the Lord God walking
in the garden in the cool
00:35:01.72\00:35:03.56
of the day. And
Adam and his wife hid
00:35:03.59\00:35:06.13
themselves from the
presence of the Lord
00:35:06.16\00:35:08.08
God among the
trees of the garden.
00:35:08.11\00:35:09.69
And when the Lord
called Adam, he says where
00:35:09.72\00:35:12.24
are you? Not looking for
location, but confession?
00:35:12.27\00:35:15.08
He said I heard your
voice in the garden and
00:35:15.11\00:35:17.19
I was afraid because
I was naked and I hid
00:35:17.22\00:35:19.63
myself, and the
Lord says in verse 11.
00:35:19.66\00:35:22.00
Who told you that
you were naked? Who told
00:35:22.03\00:35:23.00
you, you were naked?
See, see so this is like,
00:35:23.01\00:35:26.15
it's like the Lord
like saying who told you
00:35:26.18\00:35:29.17
that you were naked,
and then he goes to the
00:35:29.20\00:35:31.15
next question. Have
you eaten of the tree which
00:35:31.18\00:35:32.84
I commanded you
that you should not eat?
00:35:32.87\00:35:34.74
And then the man
said the woman whom you
00:35:34.77\00:35:37.25
gave to be with me,
she gave me of the tree and
00:35:37.28\00:35:39.63
I ate. First
domestic dispute recorded in
00:35:39.66\00:35:43.75
scripture. I would hate
to say, I don't think it
00:35:43.78\00:35:46.88
was recorded, but Eve
probably felt like hitting
00:35:46.91\00:35:49.22
Adam upside the
head with a bamboo bush,
00:35:49.25\00:35:51.56
or hit him with the
same fruit she made him eat,
00:35:51.59\00:35:54.32
but she probably felt
like throwing the seed
00:35:54.35\00:35:55.71
at him. And then
here's where the comments
00:35:55.74\00:35:58.88
come in, and the Lord
God said to the woman,
00:35:58.91\00:36:02.45
what is this that you
have done? And the woman
00:36:02.48\00:36:04.54
said the serpent
deceived me and I ate.
00:36:04.57\00:36:06.84
She points to somebody
else. See, so right there
00:36:06.87\00:36:08.64
when we read Second
Timothy chapter 2 verse 14,
00:36:08.67\00:36:11.69
the serpent
admitted, I deceived her,
00:36:11.72\00:36:16.42
I deceived her, he
didn't say a word, but that's
00:36:16.45\00:36:20.20
why Paul recorded yes.
The woman was deceived.
00:36:20.23\00:36:24.70
Adam opened his
eyes wide and walked into
00:36:24.73\00:36:27.78
this plot and that's
where you get Romans chapter 5
00:36:27.81\00:36:30.34
and verse 12. What I
want to show you there
00:36:30.37\00:36:31.98
before we go to
Job, because now because
00:36:32.01\00:36:34.08
of this entrance
of sin in the world,
00:36:34.11\00:36:35.71
Satan's gonna
have another claim and
00:36:35.74\00:36:37.71
you're gonna go to
that claim in just a moment
00:36:37.74\00:36:39.05
in the book of
Job. But in Romans 5:12
00:36:39.08\00:36:41.88
it doesn't say that by
Eve sin came into the world.
00:36:41.91\00:36:45.30
It says by one man
sin entered the world and
00:36:45.33\00:36:50.14
death through sin and
thus death spread to all
00:36:50.17\00:36:54.41
that one man is Adam.
00:36:54.44\00:36:57.20
First Corinthians
15 verse 22 says as in
00:36:57.23\00:36:59.92
Adam all die, even so
in Christ all shall be made
00:36:59.95\00:37:03.49
alive. So the Bible
makes it very, very clear
00:37:03.52\00:37:05.15
that Adam was the one
that caused sin to come
00:37:05.18\00:37:07.36
into the world, but
when that sin came into the
00:37:07.39\00:37:10.39
world, Satan thought
hey, I won. I got my own
00:37:10.42\00:37:17.71
earth, thus we go
to Job. That's right.
00:37:17.74\00:37:20.86
There are so many
parallels here too,
00:37:20.89\00:37:23.37
it's just amazing. The
Genesis 3 and the fall to
00:37:23.40\00:37:26.49
Revelation chapter 12.
It's in there. You know
00:37:26.52\00:37:28.59
the woman is there,
the seed which is the child
00:37:28.62\00:37:32.24
that comes through
in Revelation 12 and we
00:37:32.27\00:37:36.03
talk about you know
the serpent being in the
00:37:36.06\00:37:38.83
garden, so there is
so much here, but now
00:37:38.86\00:37:41.62
we're going to the
rest of the story, which is
00:37:41.65\00:37:45.08
the claim is made by
Satan that this world is
00:37:45.11\00:37:47.26
now his. But God has
something to say about
00:37:47.29\00:37:50.66
that. John why don't
you read start reading
00:37:50.69\00:37:52.92
Job chapter 1 and
I'll pick up where.
00:37:52.95\00:37:54.88
Okay while I'm
turning there, I am just gonna
00:37:54.91\00:37:56.83
quote Galatians 3:14,
because in Galatians 3:14
00:37:56.86\00:38:00.53
the Bible says that
the law, for God the law
00:38:00.56\00:38:04.30
was added till
the seed should come.
00:38:04.33\00:38:06.64
See, so this ceremony
law that existed to talk,
00:38:06.67\00:38:09.35
to teach people about
God, to teach people about
00:38:09.38\00:38:12.13
the plan of salvation.
It was there put in place
00:38:12.16\00:38:14.95
until the seed should
come to whom the promise
00:38:14.98\00:38:18.37
was made. So when
the promise was made in
00:38:18.40\00:38:20.68
Genesis 3 verse 14
everybody was looking
00:38:20.71\00:38:24.19
for that child to be
born, woman thought that
00:38:24.22\00:38:27.52
their son would be
the Messiah and Paul says
00:38:27.55\00:38:30.26
clearly in
Galatians 3:14, they were all
00:38:30.29\00:38:32.28
waiting for the seed
to come and that seed was
00:38:32.31\00:38:34.60
Christ, so that's why
that language, the seed,
00:38:34.63\00:38:37.59
here what am I
going, Job, okay. Job 1.
00:38:37.62\00:38:39.83
I'm doing a job trying to
find Job, okay here it is.
00:38:39.86\00:38:43.44
Job chapter 1 and
put the context together,
00:38:43.47\00:38:48.00
Job was the greatest man
of the people of the East.
00:38:48.03\00:38:54.32
Job chapter 1 and
verse 3 and when the Lord
00:38:54.35\00:38:56.78
said that you're
greatest, you're the greatest
00:38:56.81\00:38:59.87
and I know that Mohammed
Ali said that but sorry,
00:38:59.90\00:39:02.42
Job was the greatest.
Now verse 6 of Job chapter 1.
00:39:02.45\00:39:06.96
Now there was a day
when the sons of God
00:39:06.99\00:39:09.34
came to present
themselves before the Lord
00:39:09.37\00:39:12.14
and Satan also came
among them. First thing
00:39:12.17\00:39:14.71
friends a Bible
doesn't stay where this meeting
00:39:14.74\00:39:16.29
took place. And the
Lord said to Satan from
00:39:16.32\00:39:19.28
where do you come, so
Satan answered the Lord
00:39:19.31\00:39:21.42
and said from going to
and fro on the earth and
00:39:21.45\00:39:23.74
from walking
back and forth on it.
00:39:23.77\00:39:26.11
That was his, he
thought the earth was his.
00:39:26.72\00:39:28.86
He says where you
come from, I'm here as
00:39:29.11\00:39:31.01
a representative of the earth.
00:39:31.04\00:39:32.28
He thought the earth was his.
00:39:33.39\00:39:34.62
He just snatched the
authority that God gave
00:39:34.99\00:39:38.75
to Adam and he
became subject now.
00:39:38.78\00:39:41.44
Adam became a subject
now to the nature that
00:39:41.86\00:39:44.51
was passed onto
him from Satan himself,
00:39:44.54\00:39:47.80
but in fact and we
showed you that just as
00:39:48.16\00:39:50.92
I simply show you that
Satan came to make claims.
00:39:50.95\00:39:54.23
He says Lord if
you take what Job has,
00:39:54.26\00:39:56.45
I'm sure that Job
is going to curse you,
00:39:56.48\00:39:58.60
praise the Lord
John, Job did not curse God
00:39:59.16\00:40:01.14
to his face and die.
What else you want to
00:40:01.17\00:40:02.72
point out in there?
Well you know there is
00:40:02.75\00:40:04.37
something that just
jumps out at you when
00:40:04.40\00:40:06.21
you read this
passage, okay, because Satan
00:40:06.24\00:40:07.70
is stepping up to a
place where he does not belong.
00:40:07.73\00:40:10.28
When, when the
Lord said to Satan from
00:40:11.39\00:40:12.74
where do you come from?
It's almost the language
00:40:12.77\00:40:15.34
is almost like you
don't belong here, right.
00:40:15.37\00:40:18.29
And what are you
doing here? Okay.
00:40:18.32\00:40:20.03
And so you know
that being the case,
00:40:20.28\00:40:22.33
you know that something becomes
00:40:22.55\00:40:23.52
very obvious to us.
The sons of God were
00:40:23.53\00:40:27.12
created beings who
clearly in this context
00:40:27.15\00:40:30.70
are heads of worlds,
right. Okay, there is no other
00:40:30.73\00:40:34.84
explanation for it.
They've got to be heads
00:40:34.87\00:40:36.99
of worlds and here it
is Satan is coming in the
00:40:37.02\00:40:39.85
midst of him, of them
at this council meeting
00:40:39.88\00:40:42.97
and he's an angel.
Angels were not created
00:40:43.00\00:40:46.95
to be heads of worlds,
no. That's a fact and we
00:40:47.31\00:40:50.99
know that angels
are ministering spirits,
00:40:51.02\00:40:53.40
they are there to do
the bidding of God from
00:40:53.43\00:40:56.47
heaven to a minister
and to serve these other
00:40:56.50\00:41:00.30
worlds as they're
needed, okay, right.
00:41:00.33\00:41:02.87
The part of God's working.
00:41:02.90\00:41:04.82
They are the work
of, creation. Yeah.
00:41:05.76\00:41:07.20
They're the work of
beast. Yeah you can say
00:41:07.23\00:41:08.68
that, that's a good word for it.
00:41:08.71\00:41:09.68
So that being the
case, you know it would be
00:41:10.16\00:41:13.77
very appropriate for
God to see when Satan
00:41:13.80\00:41:15.72
comes into this
council meeting, what are you
00:41:15.75\00:41:17.19
doing here? Right,
what you are doing here.
00:41:17.22\00:41:18.71
I'm meeting with my
creation, people that
00:41:18.74\00:41:20.72
are created and set
up and established as
00:41:20.75\00:41:22.37
creators or not
as creator says as
00:41:22.40\00:41:24.31
procreators as
you might say, but as
00:41:25.08\00:41:26.66
leaders of and
stewards of these worlds, right.
00:41:27.08\00:41:30.23
And one of the things
that we find too is that
00:41:31.95\00:41:35.03
often people distort
the passage of Genesis
00:41:35.47\00:41:38.42
chapter 6 where it
talks about you know the
00:41:38.93\00:41:41.55
sons of God came to
the daughters of men,
00:41:41.58\00:41:45.16
saw that they were
beautiful and then the
00:41:45.55\00:41:48.38
giant, there were giants
on the earth in that time
00:41:48.41\00:41:50.28
and so forth. They're
trying to say well this
00:41:50.31\00:41:52.45
is Satan and the angels
coming down to procreate
00:41:52.48\00:41:55.42
with human
beings, but you know what
00:41:55.45\00:41:59.07
nowhere in scripture
do we find any evidence
00:41:59.40\00:42:01.51
what so ever that
angels can procreate, no.
00:42:01.54\00:42:04.75
There's no need
for them to procreate.
00:42:04.78\00:42:06.85
They are not
assigned genders, no.
00:42:07.19\00:42:09.96
You know really
we don't know exactly
00:42:10.50\00:42:12.19
what they look like,
we have pictures of them
00:42:12.22\00:42:13.89
and often they look
like men, because we
00:42:13.92\00:42:15.90
associate strength
with manliness you know
00:42:15.93\00:42:19.21
men, but they're
not men, they're not
00:42:19.61\00:42:21.94
women, they're angels.
Right they don't have a
00:42:21.97\00:42:24.70
procreate gender.
Yeah, so anyway just some
00:42:24.73\00:42:27.74
insights here into
what's going on, Satan
00:42:27.77\00:42:30.42
is appearing he
says I own the earth.
00:42:30.45\00:42:32.81
I belong to the earth
and God says not so fast,
00:42:33.37\00:42:36.51
so he moves from
what you are doing here
00:42:36.54\00:42:38.22
to his charge. He gives
Satan okay, you're here,
00:42:38.74\00:42:41.57
you shouldn't be here,
but your charge is that
00:42:42.06\00:42:44.19
you own the earth,
but I'm wanna tell you,
00:42:44.22\00:42:46.69
have you looked
at Job lately, okay.
00:42:47.73\00:42:50.67
And Job isn't evil
like you are. Job doesn't
00:42:51.27\00:42:54.96
do what you do. Job is
like me. He's righteous,
00:42:54.99\00:42:59.09
he's blameless
before me. Here in Job, Job
00:42:59.36\00:43:02.51
denied all the evil of
his day. Job just remained
00:43:02.54\00:43:05.51
away from it and
that's why Satan said let me
00:43:05.54\00:43:07.99
try him and the
reason why Satan went after
00:43:08.02\00:43:10.60
Job is because he
went after the best of the
00:43:10.63\00:43:13.31
best, because he knew
anything below Job was
00:43:13.34\00:43:15.85
just not really
a challenge, right.
00:43:15.88\00:43:17.30
He said if I can get the
best one, if I can get the
00:43:17.34\00:43:19.59
one that's most devoted
to you then I've finished
00:43:19.62\00:43:22.69
my job because all
the others there is no
00:43:22.72\00:43:24.21
challenge at all.
That's why when you go for
00:43:24.24\00:43:25.97
World Champion you
don't play the worst
00:43:26.00\00:43:28.15
team, you play the
two best. When the boxers
00:43:28.18\00:43:30.78
are fighting for
the World Championship,
00:43:30.81\00:43:32.29
you don't get a guy
that just began to spar the
00:43:32.63\00:43:34.67
week before, you get
the two best that have
00:43:34.70\00:43:36.53
fought their way to
the top, so this is a
00:43:36.56\00:43:38.62
contention here
between the best of the best.
00:43:38.65\00:43:40.78
So Satan says in
other words. Lord give me
00:43:41.12\00:43:43.23
the best you have and
I'll prove to you that
00:43:43.26\00:43:45.26
he's not good enough
and the Lord says wait
00:43:45.29\00:43:46.63
a minute and this
is what's nice about,
00:43:46.66\00:43:48.32
I'm gonna call you Sam,
this is what's nice about
00:43:49.69\00:43:51.80
this John. I don't
know where the Sam came
00:43:51.83\00:43:53.66
from, Ignore that
statement, his name is John.
00:43:53.69\00:43:57.06
But this is where
this comes from, the best
00:43:58.02\00:44:01.97
that man has to offer
is the worst that man has
00:44:02.67\00:44:07.33
to offer when God
is not on his side.
00:44:07.36\00:44:09.90
That's right. Let me
change that when he is
00:44:09.93\00:44:12.26
not on God's side.
Job, although great in the
00:44:12.29\00:44:16.42
earth, great possessions,
great wealth, you are
00:44:16.45\00:44:19.43
the worst when
you're not on God's side.
00:44:19.46\00:44:22.06
Because I always say
intellect and possession
00:44:22.52\00:44:24.97
and power without
God is a dangerous thing.
00:44:25.00\00:44:27.25
That's right. So Job
had all those things,
00:44:27.92\00:44:29.22
what made him great
was not his possessions,
00:44:29.52\00:44:31.56
but he was one that,
one that avoided evil,
00:44:31.82\00:44:34.58
one that feared God
and avoided, he distained
00:44:34.86\00:44:38.61
evil, so Satan says
wait a minute you know I'm
00:44:38.64\00:44:40.99
looking for somebody
and he said I bet you if
00:44:41.02\00:44:43.25
I could touch him, I
bet you if I could take all
00:44:43.28\00:44:45.70
things that he has
from you. He'll curse you,
00:44:45.73\00:44:48.35
he'll curse you to
your face. Well you know
00:44:48.38\00:44:50.53
another thing point
here John and I think this is
00:44:50.56\00:44:52.28
so important.
This is a part of Great
00:44:52.31\00:44:53.65
Controversy, right.
There are people that
00:44:53.68\00:44:55.78
say, God took my
mother or God took my
00:44:55.81\00:44:59.85
niece or God needed
another, another angel
00:45:00.48\00:45:03.37
so he killed my or
allowed my sister to die.
00:45:03.40\00:45:05.68
You read the story of
Job, God didn't do any
00:45:06.35\00:45:09.50
of the afflicting. He
said to Satan go ahead
00:45:09.53\00:45:12.47
take his house, take
his possessions, take all
00:45:12.57\00:45:14.50
that he has, but
just don't take his life.
00:45:14.53\00:45:17.04
You see, so God was
not the one that sent the
00:45:17.64\00:45:21.73
tornado. God was not
the one that send the
00:45:21.76\00:45:24.08
fire to burn up this
stuff. God was not one
00:45:24.11\00:45:26.60
that send the
thieves to raid and
00:45:26.63\00:45:28.12
take all of his
cattle. God does not do that.
00:45:28.15\00:45:30.81
James says every good
and every perfect gift
00:45:31.37\00:45:33.18
comes from God. That's
right, who is the enemy.
00:45:33.21\00:45:35.06
Even Jesus referred
to the fact the enemy has
00:45:36.82\00:45:38.74
done this thing.
You know how they're
00:45:38.77\00:45:40.42
pointing to the
enemy, Matthew 13, whose is
00:45:40.45\00:45:42.52
the source of all the
evil and the bad things that
00:45:42.55\00:45:44.96
happened in this
world, right. You know one of
00:45:44.99\00:45:48.13
the things that I
have learned from here,
00:45:48.16\00:45:49.34
applying this to a
practical level is that in
00:45:49.37\00:45:51.48
my own life, when
I face challenges.
00:45:51.51\00:45:54.14
Could it be that God is
asking me to step up for
00:45:55.96\00:45:59.61
him. Oh undoubtedly.
Could it be that I'm as
00:45:59.64\00:46:03.68
part of the Great
Controversy that when
00:46:03.71\00:46:05.59
these horrible
things happened in my life.
00:46:05.62\00:46:08.19
Whatever challenges
that I face, the God is
00:46:08.91\00:46:11.37
asking me to show
my Godly character.
00:46:11.40\00:46:13.97
And how often when he
does that, he relies on
00:46:16.04\00:46:18.79
me to do that, I say
I just complain, oh God
00:46:18.82\00:46:22.87
has done this to me,
oh God has done all this
00:46:22.90\00:46:25.17
and that and all, why
is he doing this to me.
00:46:25.20\00:46:27.15
I mean I became a
complainer rather than a
00:46:27.18\00:46:29.61
person that stepped
up that says you know
00:46:30.37\00:46:32.36
what God is my
defender, in spite of
00:46:32.39\00:46:35.90
what's going on
around me. You know I believe
00:46:35.93\00:46:37.60
God is fair. I just
got a cliche, if we comply,
00:46:37.63\00:46:40.04
we won't
complain. You comply with
00:46:40.07\00:46:42.36
God's parameters,
you won't complain about
00:46:43.29\00:46:44.73
God's parameters. That's good.
00:46:44.76\00:46:45.73
So, so we
complain because we don't
00:46:46.36\00:46:48.07
comply. Yeah, but
we complain because we
00:46:48.10\00:46:50.39
don't see the big
picture either and that's one of
00:46:50.42\00:46:52.43
the reasons for
this Great Controversy
00:46:52.46\00:46:54.13
segment that
we're doing here is that
00:46:54.89\00:46:56.56
you know we are part
of that Great Controversy
00:46:57.28\00:46:59.86
going on right now.
And every trial, every
00:46:59.89\00:47:02.53
struggle that you
face, every time the enemy
00:47:02.56\00:47:05.48
comes at you, he's
coming at you because
00:47:05.51\00:47:08.06
you're a child of
God number one and God is
00:47:08.09\00:47:10.49
allowing it to
happen because he wants you
00:47:10.52\00:47:12.38
to show that
you're more like him.
00:47:12.41\00:47:14.99
We reveal through
our struggles who we are
00:47:16.65\00:47:18.86
really like and we
reveal that we are like
00:47:18.89\00:47:22.48
God and are
becoming more and more like
00:47:22.51\00:47:24.04
God because of our,
of the strength that he
00:47:24.07\00:47:26.93
gives us to show
that we are depending upon
00:47:26.96\00:47:29.35
him even in spite of
all the struggles and trials
00:47:29.38\00:47:31.41
we go through. And
so that's a big part of
00:47:31.44\00:47:34.43
the Great Controversy
here. Now I'm looking
00:47:34.46\00:47:36.58
at the time, so
we need to go back to
00:47:36.61\00:47:38.87
Revelation
chapter 12. That's right.
00:47:38.90\00:47:40.64
Let's go to verse,
let's go to verse 10.
00:47:40.67\00:47:44.77
Now this is, this is
so beautiful this takes us
00:47:45.71\00:47:49.18
to the Cross and
you know you can go to
00:47:49.21\00:47:52.94
John 5, you can go
to Matthew chapter 20,
00:47:52.97\00:47:57.05
when Jesus rose from
the death, you see Satan
00:47:57.08\00:47:59.22
thought he had defeated
00:47:59.25\00:48:00.42
Christ until the resurrection.
00:48:00.45\00:48:02.56
When the
resurrection came salvation was
00:48:03.76\00:48:06.23
completed, that's
right. The price that Jesus
00:48:06.26\00:48:09.32
paid for us was he
Jesus was exonerated,
00:48:09.35\00:48:13.29
Jesus was vindicated
and in the resurrection
00:48:13.32\00:48:16.13
because he has said
before he died I'm the
00:48:16.16\00:48:17.80
resurrection in
the life and then here
00:48:17.83\00:48:19.84
I tried to keep him
in the tomb and Satan
00:48:19.87\00:48:21.98
tried to keep him in
the tomb, but when he rose
00:48:22.01\00:48:24.60
this statement
was proclaimed and
00:48:24.63\00:48:26.68
I believe that it's
at that particle juncture
00:48:26.71\00:48:28.64
when it says then
I heard a loud voice
00:48:29.03\00:48:31.52
saying in heaven, now
salvation's strengthen
00:48:31.99\00:48:34.59
and the kingdom of
our God and the power of
00:48:34.62\00:48:36.30
his Christ have come.
For the accuser of our
00:48:36.33\00:48:40.04
brethren, notice what
he does, who accused them
00:48:40.07\00:48:43.51
before our God day
and night has been cast
00:48:43.54\00:48:46.38
what? Down, down
fallen condition that's
00:48:46.41\00:48:49.48
the casting down.
When Satan was cast down,
00:48:49.51\00:48:52.52
he was continually
labeled as the fallen.
00:48:52.83\00:48:55.98
How art thou
fallen? He's fallen, because
00:48:56.81\00:48:59.74
Jesus overcame him
from his own victory,
00:48:59.77\00:49:02.73
but then what about our victory.
00:49:03.00\00:49:04.19
This cast down is
not cast out of heaven.
00:49:04.35\00:49:06.59
This cast is down is
any authority that he
00:49:06.62\00:49:09.64
claimed to this
earth, he now has lost
00:49:09.67\00:49:11.47
completely,
unequivocally it is gone.
00:49:11.88\00:49:14.89
And so by the
Cross and by his the
00:49:15.20\00:49:17.83
Resurrection of Jesus
Christ who now sits at
00:49:17.86\00:49:20.39
the right hand of the
Father, Satan has been
00:49:20.42\00:49:22.50
cast down. So when
Satan tries to remind
00:49:22.53\00:49:28.93
you now and you've
heard this statement
00:49:28.96\00:49:30.41
before of your
past. Remind him of his
00:49:30.44\00:49:33.82
future, because he's
fallen, he's cast down
00:49:33.85\00:49:37.31
and he has no
authority what so ever.
00:49:37.77\00:49:39.37
If Christ has given
you authority and we find
00:49:39.40\00:49:42.81
from Luke that Christ
has given his people in
00:49:42.84\00:49:46.27
the last days authority
over Satan and his angels.
00:49:46.30\00:49:50.45
That we have nothing
to fear and so now I like
00:49:51.15\00:49:55.19
that now, now why?
Because the Cross has
00:49:55.22\00:49:58.67
happened now,
salvation has come.
00:49:58.70\00:50:01.37
I wanna just target
one in here, because,
00:50:01.40\00:50:04.49
you see Satan
claimed to have power that he
00:50:04.84\00:50:07.09
didn't really have.
In Hebrews 12, Hebrews 2
00:50:07.12\00:50:10.85
verse 14 listen to
Jesus' assignment, he says in
00:50:10.88\00:50:15.78
his much then as the
children have partaken
00:50:15.81\00:50:18.16
of flesh and blood
that's that fallen nature.
00:50:18.19\00:50:20.17
He himself Jesus
likewise shared in the
00:50:20.83\00:50:22.94
same that through
death he might destroy him
00:50:22.97\00:50:27.10
who had the power of
death, had the power of
00:50:27.13\00:50:31.27
death that is the
devil and release those who
00:50:31.30\00:50:34.55
through fear of death
for all their lifetime
00:50:35.02\00:50:37.57
subject to bondage.
Satan had the power of
00:50:38.09\00:50:41.44
death, but when
Jesus rose he says in
00:50:41.47\00:50:43.73
Revelation I have the
keys of death and of hell.
00:50:43.76\00:50:48.09
I've got a key, I've
got the keys now, yeah.
00:50:48.21\00:50:50.06
I've got the keys
of death and of hell.
00:50:50.37\00:50:51.57
And so now go to
Revelation chapter 12,
00:50:51.92\00:50:53.39
you see clearly the
rejoicing and it says in
00:50:53.42\00:50:55.94
verse 11 those of
us who overcome, how do
00:50:55.97\00:50:58.06
we overcome. They
overcame him by the
00:50:58.09\00:51:00.27
blood of the lamb,
by the word of their
00:51:00.30\00:51:02.18
testimony and they did
not love, love their lives
00:51:02.21\00:51:05.16
to the death. Why did
they not love their lives
00:51:05.19\00:51:08.25
to the death,
because death no longer was
00:51:08.28\00:51:10.36
their greatest
fear. That's right.
00:51:10.39\00:51:12.13
They had fear of death
Hebrews 2 and verse 15.
00:51:13.09\00:51:15.57
And they were talking
about the persecuted, right.
00:51:15.60\00:51:17.69
They longer had
the fear of death.
00:51:17.72\00:51:19.28
Now the persecuted as
alluding back to verse
00:51:19.42\00:51:21.87
6, were introduced how
the woman fled into the
00:51:21.90\00:51:24.04
wilderness and fled
persecution for that
00:51:24.07\00:51:26.72
1260 years that
they overcame him by the
00:51:26.75\00:51:30.65
blood of the lamb
and by the word of their
00:51:30.68\00:51:32.31
testimony, they
did not love their
00:51:32.34\00:51:34.48
lives to the death.
Now verse 12, read it.
00:51:34.51\00:51:36.68
Let's go on.
Therefore rejoice O heavens,
00:51:36.71\00:51:39.18
and ye that dwell
in them. Woe to the
00:51:39.61\00:51:42.31
inhabitants of
the earth and the sea.
00:51:42.34\00:51:43.91
For the devil has
come down unto you, having
00:51:44.45\00:51:46.15
great wrath,
because he knows that he
00:51:46.18\00:51:48.60
has a short
time. Now summarizing,
00:51:48.63\00:51:52.33
now when the
dragon saw that he had
00:51:53.10\00:51:56.13
persecuted the woman
who gave birth to the
00:51:56.16\00:51:59.67
male child went
after the church.
00:51:59.70\00:52:01.58
Now when the dragon
saw that he had been
00:52:02.44\00:52:03.91
cast to the earth.
He persecuted the woman
00:52:03.94\00:52:06.68
who gave birth to
the male child and we
00:52:06.91\00:52:08.96
talked about that.
Persecuting the church,
00:52:08.99\00:52:11.33
he not only tried to
marry, but he continued
00:52:11.63\00:52:13.52
persecuting the
church through the dark ages,
00:52:13.55\00:52:15.45
through the New
Testament I talk about
00:52:15.48\00:52:16.75
Roman Emperor
Diocletian, but the woman was
00:52:17.13\00:52:20.45
given two wings of
a great eagle that she
00:52:20.48\00:52:22.92
might fly into the
wilderness to her place,
00:52:22.95\00:52:24.85
where she is nourished
for a time and times and
00:52:25.30\00:52:27.27
half a time from the
presence of the serpent.
00:52:27.30\00:52:29.82
For 1260 years
John you know that, yes.
00:52:30.30\00:52:33.58
In 538 Rome was
given complete power over
00:52:33.97\00:52:38.04
religious and
political affairs and for 1260
00:52:38.07\00:52:40.77
years from 538 to
1798 persecution was
00:52:40.80\00:52:45.15
rampant in Europe.
Trying to stamp out all
00:52:45.18\00:52:48.48
those who were a
legion to God, but what
00:52:48.51\00:52:50.63
happened to the
church. God hid her in the dens
00:52:50.66\00:52:53.94
and the rocks of the mountain.
00:52:53.97\00:52:55.01
You read the story
of the Waldensians.
00:52:55.04\00:52:56.66
Read the story of
the Swiss who hid in the
00:52:57.64\00:53:02.15
dens and the rocks
of the mountains and so
00:53:02.18\00:53:04.21
and even those who
were killed, if one died
00:53:04.82\00:53:07.67
two or three
took his or her place.
00:53:08.04\00:53:09.67
God hid the church
so that Satan couldn't
00:53:10.76\00:53:12.51
wipe her out. And it
says read the next verse.
00:53:12.54\00:53:15.32
Verse 15. So the
serpent spewed out water from
00:53:15.98\00:53:20.83
his mouth like a
flood after the woman,
00:53:20.86\00:53:22.51
that he might
cause her to be carried
00:53:23.33\00:53:25.03
away by the flood.
Now we know that water
00:53:25.06\00:53:27.59
is referred to people,
people. So a great army
00:53:27.62\00:53:31.35
of people came after
this woman, came after
00:53:31.38\00:53:33.39
the church. You
know how that happened.
00:53:34.02\00:53:35.48
During the Dark
Ages, as a counter to the
00:53:36.50\00:53:39.95
Reformation. There
was something called
00:53:39.98\00:53:42.47
the counter
Reformation or the Renaissance
00:53:43.35\00:53:46.35
period, when all this
truth was coming to the
00:53:46.38\00:53:48.40
forefront one of the
ways that they attacked
00:53:48.43\00:53:50.81
the reformers was
they brought out all the
00:53:50.84\00:53:52.41
culture and the art
and the music as accounted
00:53:52.44\00:53:55.32
to the
Reformation, even stain glass.
00:53:55.35\00:53:57.91
Look, do a research
of stain glass even stain
00:53:57.94\00:54:00.61
glass Christians
refused to go into the Roman
00:54:00.64\00:54:03.10
Cathedrals, but when
they change the glass to
00:54:03.13\00:54:05.52
colorful beautiful
glass, the only way to see the
00:54:05.55\00:54:08.49
beauty of the glass
was to go inside the dark
00:54:08.52\00:54:10.26
building, because
the sun shown through it
00:54:10.29\00:54:12.70
and so all these
things that happened during
00:54:13.08\00:54:14.81
the Dark Ages were a
method where by those
00:54:14.84\00:54:17.56
who rejected the
darkness were now
00:54:17.59\00:54:19.83
ward against through
culture, through music,
00:54:19.86\00:54:21.93
through art and that
was the renaissance or the
00:54:21.96\00:54:23.73
counter reformation,
a time of great culture,
00:54:23.76\00:54:26.16
great music, great
science and that was the
00:54:26.59\00:54:29.30
water that Satan
sent after the woman
00:54:29.33\00:54:31.31
through all these
people bringing these things to
00:54:31.34\00:54:33.24
the forefront, but
look at the next verse.
00:54:33.27\00:54:34.45
And we also have in
other words since two
00:54:34.48\00:54:35.86
you have the
armies of Rome who are all
00:54:35.89\00:54:38.75
subject to the Roman
powers, literally going
00:54:38.78\00:54:41.82
off to and to kill and
persecute the saints that
00:54:41.85\00:54:44.56
are staying
faithful. Which was called this
00:54:44.59\00:54:46.89
inquisition, inquisition.
The massacres, over 50
00:54:47.31\00:54:50.40
million Christians were
killed during the Dark Ages.
00:54:50.43\00:54:52.61
Read the next verse.
But the earth helped the
00:54:52.90\00:54:55.67
woman and the earth
opened its mouth and
00:54:55.70\00:54:57.73
swallowed up the
flood which the dragon had
00:54:57.76\00:54:59.52
spewed out of his
mouth. It's very difficult
00:54:59.55\00:55:01.59
in an unpopulated
areas in wilderness
00:55:02.49\00:55:04.42
to find anybody. I
mean just think just think
00:55:04.45\00:55:06.38
I mean these
hikers that will get lost.
00:55:06.41\00:55:07.97
I mean God used the
wilderness so that all
00:55:08.58\00:55:10.70
the people coming
after them couldn't find
00:55:10.73\00:55:12.85
his people. Now
many were found, because
00:55:12.88\00:55:14.72
obviously 50
million martyrs is a huge
00:55:14.75\00:55:18.32
number. But still
the wilderness helped
00:55:18.45\00:55:21.62
preserve the truth
and the Reformation, okay.
00:55:21.65\00:55:25.97
And to the point
where before we read
00:55:26.40\00:55:27.91
this last verse 17.
The point where to this
00:55:27.94\00:55:30.93
very day the
Reformation continues to grow.
00:55:30.96\00:55:33.17
Praise the Lord. The
Reformation continues
00:55:33.90\00:55:35.68
to grow, God's truth
continues to champion
00:55:35.71\00:55:37.98
on, and we believe
that there is still a truth
00:55:38.01\00:55:42.03
being proclaimed even
in your hearing right now.
00:55:42.06\00:55:44.25
Oh. The truth is
being proclaimed in
00:55:44.85\00:55:47.39
opposition to many
who are still in Babylon
00:55:47.42\00:55:51.42
per say. That's why I
want you read verse 17
00:55:51.45\00:55:53.86
this is powerful,
amen. And that brings us to
00:55:53.89\00:55:56.02
verse 17. That's
why I wanted to say that
00:55:56.13\00:55:57.68
verse 17 says and
the dragon was enraged
00:55:57.71\00:56:00.28
with the woman and
he went to make war with
00:56:00.31\00:56:03.20
the rest or the
remnant, that's the last piece.
00:56:03.39\00:56:06.35
Now to, of her offspring
who keep the commandments
00:56:07.60\00:56:10.44
of God and have the
testimony of Jesus Christ.
00:56:10.47\00:56:13.20
I wanna cite the
King James version here
00:56:13.23\00:56:14.99
because it says the
remnant of her seed.
00:56:15.02\00:56:17.70
Seed, yes. And that
links you right back to
00:56:17.73\00:56:20.23
Genesis 3 where
the Lord says I put
00:56:20.26\00:56:22.28
enmity between
your seed and her seed.
00:56:22.31\00:56:24.71
The remnant of her
seed and what did they do
00:56:25.11\00:56:27.02
John, who have the testimony.
00:56:27.05\00:56:29.05
They keep the
commandments of God
00:56:29.08\00:56:30.79
and have the
testimony of Jesus Christ.
00:56:31.23\00:56:33.06
Now friends, you may
see well what does this
00:56:33.31\00:56:34.28
all mean. If you
wanna be a part of the
00:56:34.29\00:56:36.46
remnant, the message is here.
00:56:36.49\00:56:38.74
God's last day
people, God's last day people
00:56:38.77\00:56:40.75
that Satan is angry
with, I rather have Satan
00:56:40.78\00:56:42.99
against me than
Christ against me, see.
00:56:43.02\00:56:45.20
If you want to keep
the commandments of God
00:56:45.67\00:56:47.28
you will be against
Satan. If you avoid the
00:56:47.99\00:56:50.72
Commandments of God
you are on Satan's side.
00:56:50.75\00:56:52.59
Now who would you
rather do that which
00:56:52.62\00:56:54.77
upsets the devil, not
that which denies the Lord.
00:56:55.08\00:56:58.09
Any comments
John before we close.
00:56:58.51\00:56:59.90
Well in the testimony
of Jesus Christ, we know it
00:57:00.12\00:57:02.36
refers to
prophecy, that's right.
00:57:02.39\00:57:03.91
So clearly there's a
prophetic message tied
00:57:04.08\00:57:06.15
to a commandment
keeping people to finish
00:57:06.18\00:57:08.79
the work before
Jesus comes, Revelation.
00:57:08.82\00:57:11.37
We're in that era, we're
in that time and Jesus is
00:57:11.40\00:57:14.65
coming very soon.
That's right they'll have
00:57:14.68\00:57:16.13
they'll have an understanding of
00:57:16.54\00:57:17.79
prophecy through
the gift of prophecy,
00:57:17.82\00:57:20.66
active in the
church. Satan doesn't like it
00:57:21.35\00:57:23.73
when the people
of God understand the
00:57:23.76\00:57:24.93
prophecies of God and
are faithful to the Lord.
00:57:24.96\00:57:27.32
Friends, you
could be one of those,
00:57:27.35\00:57:29.02
choose the Lord and make him
00:57:29.29\00:57:30.87
your Christ
today. God bless you.
00:57:30.90\00:57:33.06