Hello, friends, grab
your Bible and a friend
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and sit back as we
explore God's word together
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on this edition
of "House Calls."
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Hello, friends,
welcome to the most informative
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Bible program in the world.
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That's exactly what I believe,
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that's why I am in this program,
we welcome to "House Calls."
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This is a walk through the Bible
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and I am not by myself,
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I have my good
friend, John Stanton with me.
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It's good to be here, John.
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And back talking
about God's word,
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which is the funniest
thing for you and I to do.
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That's right. We
could possibly do.
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Isn't the best Bible
program in the world?
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Well, it's that.
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And, you know, this is
the best job in the world
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to be called by God to really
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give Him honor and
glory, it's a wonderful thing.
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And by the way
the reason I said,
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it's the best Bible
program in the world
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it's because, not
because of John and I,
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but because we are imparting
to you the Word of God,
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the best book in the world.
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So if you have the
best book in the world,
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it's got to be the
best program in the world.
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That's right and
there are lot other
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best programs in the world
that open up God's Word, so.
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That's right, and
that's what 3ABN is all about.
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Amen, amen.
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John, let's get
started off with prayer.
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I think that would be
good. And we dive right on them.
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Dear Father in heaven,
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we are so blessed to be
able to have this program.
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And we just pray
that you'll guide us,
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lead us here today,
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and also for our
viewers or listeners,
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and may they have
their hearts open their mind,
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expanded to hear your
voice, in Jesus' name, amen.
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And friends,
once again thank you
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for sending
your Bible questions,
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you know that
without your questions,
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this program will
be kind of boring.
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We like those challenging
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and so if you have any at all,
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you can send them
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And we will download them
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And there are some of you
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We say, snail mail
because it has a stamp on it.
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That's why they
have increased postage,
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because of email.
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But send them anyway,
because we do open them,
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whether they are first,
second or eve third request.
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We'll eventually get to them.
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John, someone told me recently
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that the best
part of the program
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is the questions
and the answers. Wow.
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So praise the Lord,
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you know, I think a lot
of people are out there,
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wondering how
to answer questions
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because people
want to know about God,
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they want to know what
God's word says. That's right.
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So it's fun to just be able
to share that with them, so.
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And since we're
going to do that,
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John, why don't
you just dive right in,
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and give us the
first question for today.
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Let's do that.
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This one is from Cathy
in Mount Vernon, Illinois.
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Wow, it's far.
That's far away, isn't it?
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Just up this tree here,
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Cathy says,
"Dear, John and John,
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I would like to say
first, God bless you both.
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We love to watch your program
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and all of the programs on 3ABN.
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You have been a blessing to us."
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Thank you very much, Cathy.
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It says, "The
Sabbath school lesson
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we've been studying here
recently is on discipleship
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and during the class
recently we talked about,
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John the Baptist and Jesus.
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Our question is,
did Jesus actually
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baptized any of His followers,
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or was it only John,
that did the baptizing?
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Thank you for your
help with this issue.
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May God continue to
lead you?" Thank you, Cathy.
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Actually the Bible is very
clear on who did the baptizing.
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If you turn with
us to John 4:1-2,
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it explains here, how
the process of baptizing went
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and Jesus'
involvement with that.
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It says here, "Therefore,
when the Lord knew that
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that Pharisees had
heard that Jesus made
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and baptized more
disciples than John.
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And then in parenthesis,
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most Bibles will have
this in parenthesis, it says,
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"(Though Jesus Himself did not
baptized but His disciples,)."
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So clarification right
there that even though,
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it's spoken of as Jesus
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being involved in
the baptizing process,
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He Himself did
not do the baptizing,
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John, but His disciples did.
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It's like when Mark Finley
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or any of the
evangelists go overseas
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and they have a lot of baptisms,
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the evangelists would
stand on the shore and say,
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"I baptize you in
the name of the Father,
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the Son and the Holy Ghost."
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And the pastors will
do all the baptizing,
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but the preparation, I
believe, for the baptism,
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was done by the Lord.
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And also He
trained His disciples
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for that 3 ½ year period,
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how to prepare
people for baptism.
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And there's
probably a reason for that,
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you know, to avoid people
running around and saying,
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"Well, I was actually
baptized by Jesus Himself."
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You know, with somehow
may be that was a higher
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or a better baptism than others,
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so probably He stayed
away from that controversy
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and let His disciples to
do that, so just a thought.
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And I liked that in another way,
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another lesson
out of that would be
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for Him to communicate that,
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Yes, I sent people
forth, the baptism,
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the commission to baptize,
I actually modeled that,
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I showed my
disciples how to baptize.
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And so, very
good, very good point.
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Very good quick question,
and I think right to the point.
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Another one here, Mathew 8:12.
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This is an
interesting question, John.
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You know, I never
think of this question.
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Out of all the
questions you get sometimes,
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you know those
questions that are really
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kind of make you
smile before you read it.
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This is one of those questions.
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Mathew 8:12,
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"But the sons of the kingdom
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will be cast out
into outer darkness"
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that's sons of the
kingdom of the wicked one.
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"There will be weeping
and gnashing of teeth."
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As I read, I
think of the question.
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Somebody says, somebody
wrote in the question, and asked
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but what if the
person does not have teeth,
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how would they be
weeping, the gnashing of teeth.
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And I thought
about that and I said,
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I hope you aren't asking
this question for yourself
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because that in essence says,
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you're planning
to be lost. Yeah.
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And I hope that's
not the application.
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Secondly, I don't think,
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John, at that point that
people can be worried about
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whether or not
they have teeth. Yeah.
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You know, I even think
or you think about this
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and the emphasis is
not the teeth. Right.
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The emphasis is that,
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you know they're
arriving in pain-- I'm lost.
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And most of the
time if you have teeth,
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you are gnashing your
teeth, when you do that,
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but if you don't have teeth,
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it be the weeping and gnashing
of gums is what we speak so.
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That it may be silent
anguish but anguish is anguish,
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whether you-- That's the key.
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It's anguish
anyway. It's anguish.
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You know, I heard,
years ago, somebody once said,
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you know, you snore so sold,
my teeth rattle, and he said,
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"well, moved them
further from the bed."
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And this is one
of those situations.
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Honestly there are
people that don't have teeth,
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but that's not the issue here,
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the issue is, the
anguish of being lost.
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And I think Revelation 16:10
gives us another side of that,
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because they're
going to be those,
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who won't be
gnashing their teeth
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but listen to what it says,
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"Then the fifth
angel poured out his bowl
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on the throne of the beast,
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and his kingdom
became full of darkness,
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and they gnawed their tongues
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because of the pain."
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So they-- you know the tongues,
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because of the pain
that they're experiencing,
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they're gnawing their tongues,
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rather than
gnashing and weeping.
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You see, rather than gnashing
their teeth and weeping,
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they're gnawing
their tongues with pain.
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Yeah, key part being there,
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the pain and the anguish
that people go through so.
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Boy, you wouldn't be
thinking about teeth,
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anymore than a person
whose, whose house is on fire.
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He is wondering, well, should I
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run out of my house
with the suit on or not.
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You know that's a
last thought in your mind.
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That's right. Okay.
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John, this next
question is from Carroll,
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and she says here,
during the morning there was,
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during the worship hour,
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there was a
pastor who was preaching,
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and he spoke
about the sons of God,
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in reference to Job 1,
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and being the
leaders of another planets
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that came to see how God
would handle Satan's accusations
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with regard to Job,
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and accusations in
general with regard to God.
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It says here, I know that
we've heard that pastors on 3ABN
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say that the ones in Genesis
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are mere mortals
from here on earth,
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but I'd like to know
more about the sons of God
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and where they are from.
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So let's just
share a few things here,
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I know that John
you have some ideas
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and thoughts about
that from the Word of God
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and we'll turn
first of all to Genesis 6,
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and we'll look at
that passage. All right.
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And let's pull from that passage
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the context
here, because remember,
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you don't want to
take a single word
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and just run with it.
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A lot of people will
use a lot of assumptions
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when they interpret
text, and you can't do that.
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You know the Bible
actually cautions against that.
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It refers to that as
private interpretation. Right.
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And when you use assumptions,
personal assumptions
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to explain a text
or a specific passage
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that isn't
balanced by a hermeneutical
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comparison to other scriptures,
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to pull that in together,
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it's your own
private interpretation.
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So we want to stay
away from that. Okay.
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Genesis 6:1 says,
"Now it came to pass,
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when men began to multiply
on the face of the earth,
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and daughters were born to them,
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that the sons of God
saw the daughters of men
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that they were beautiful
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and they took
wives for themselves
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all of whom they chose.
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And the Lord said, My spirit
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shall not always
strive with man forever,
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for he is indeed flesh,
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yet his days shall be
one hundred and twenty years.
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There were giants on
the earth in those days,
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and also afterward,
when the sons of God
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came in to the daughters of men,
and they bore children to them,
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those who were mighty men,
were of old, men of renown."
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And then of course I'll
finish with the verse 5 here,
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"Since then the Lord saw
that the wickedness of men
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was great on the earth,
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and that every intent of
the thoughts of his heart
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were only evil continually."
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Now the emphasis here,
that we see over and over again
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is man flesh, man flesh.
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There's no
indication here, John,
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that angels have anything to do
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with what's
going on here. Right.
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That the word
angel doesn't appear,
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but man and flesh do.
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Even those born to
this unholy alliance
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are referred to as
being fleshy or being man.
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So they are not
spiritual beings,
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they're not
angelic beings at all,
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at least from the text we
can't infuse that in there.
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I would like to suggest to here
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as we dive in to the
subject a little bit more,
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that nowhere do
we find in scripture,
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anywhere in
scripture, and you let us know
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if you find something,
but we haven't found any,
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we have done a lot of searching.
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Nowhere do we find any evidence
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that angels have the
ability to procreate.
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Right, in that context.
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Infact, we find
suggested, and I say suggested
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because it's my
opinion that is suggested,
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that one of the reasons
why Satan attacked Adam and Eve
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and attacks God creation
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was because he was jealous
that they could procreate.
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I mean, think about
this, God creates Adam and Eve
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and says, "Be
fruitful and multiply."
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Right and
that's not a commission
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He gave to the
angels. And Satan has a third.
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Now do you think Satan would
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like to multiply
his forces. Right.
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He would like to, but he can't,
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why because he's got a third
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and it's all he's
ever going to have
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and they can't expand
their kingdom by procreating,
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so he sees Adam
and Eve procreating
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and he says, we can't do that.
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But you know what,
if we take them down,
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then they can procreate
and expand our kingdom.
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So every evidence
suggests in the Bible at least,
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that there is no
ability to procreate
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given to the angels
whatsoever. That's right.
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So to infuse that into
Genesis 6 is just beyond
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what scripture actually gives
us with regard to the angels,
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your thoughts on that, John.
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And I know that, you know, this
is pretty clear on our minds.
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We've been
studying this for a while,
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but most have been
taught that these are angels
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somehow mating
with men and women.
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Well, the Bible uses the phrase,
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sons of God in two particulars.
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And I think that
the most important thing
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we have to do
and, John, you said,
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well, is look at the context.
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That is important because
you'll also find in Job 1:6
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where the Bible says,
"They came with a sons of God,
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came to present
themselves before the God,
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and Satan came also."
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And the question was,
where did you come from?
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And Satan said, from
going back and forth,
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and to and fro on the earth.
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So he came as a
representative of earth.
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And we know that
there was a time,
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right at the time of
the creation of the world,
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there was just Adam and Eve.
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So they couldn't be
sons of God on the earth,
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because multiplying in
the races did not begin yet,
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so in that context,
you'll see clearly that,
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that is alluding to the
fact that there are other worlds
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on fallen beings,
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where they came to present
themselves before the Lord.
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And Satan came as a
representative of the earth.
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But in the
context of the Genesis 6,
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that's not what
suggested there at all.
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Because they made it
very, very clear in verse 1,
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"Now it came to pass
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when men began to multiply
on the face of the earth
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and daughters
were born to them."
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This is earth,
this is right away
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giving the
application where it is,
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that's the sons of Gods,
saw the daughters of man,
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that they were
beautiful, you see.
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And when you
look at the context,
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and when you
study the history here,
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you see that one of the things
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that caused the degradation
of the people of God is that,
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the context here is,
the daughters were fair,
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the daughters of
men were beautiful.
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And you'll see
that, the context is,
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the men who worshipped God,
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looked more at the
beauty of the women,
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than the
allegiance of the woman. Yeah.
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And that's where
the degradation came in
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and that pattern is
carried through our scripture,
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when men focused more
on beauty of the woman
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than her allegiance, is
when the degradation began.
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You'll find that the children
of Israel were always safe
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until the Philistine
women came into the camp
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and they were very beautiful.
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And there is no
sin in being beautiful.
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But they focused
more on the woman's beauty
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than her allegiance to God.
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And so that's what's
talked about here, rather than
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beings coming
from another worlds
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coming down and
populating the earth,
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because here is
the problem here,
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and you made the point
very clear, and I reiterate it,
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is that angels are
not procreative beings.
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Angels are not given
the ability to procreate.
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Yet, we find that they
were, probably gender neutral.
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There's no
indication if there's any gender
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with regard to angels.
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Right, you just find names
like Gabriel, like Lucifer.
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Those are some of the
names you have in scriptures,
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those are two of the
names you have in scripture.
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Even, Michael the archangel,
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which is a
representation of Christ,
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but you don't have,
you never heard of Deborah,
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the angel or Susan
the angel, you don't know.
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So in the context of
working alongside with God
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in ministry beings,
these are ministering spirits,
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and spirits are not
procreative, ministering beings,
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angels with two
and four and six wings,
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they don't have the
ability to create another angel
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that has two or
four or six wings.
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So there is no
procreative thing here.
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So that's why, and
in fact what you said,
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which I am just
saying all over again,
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no evidence that
these were heavenly beings.
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And you
mentioned in Job 1 there,
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with regard to the
sons of God came before God
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and if you look at the
one-- all the references--
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take if you have a concordance
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or even a problem that you
have like a software program,
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type in sons of God
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and look at all the references
to sons of God. Oh, yeah.
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It's only used in the context
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of those who are
lead by the Spirit of God,
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I am quoting
there from Romans 8:14.
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So those who are
lead by the Spirit of God
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are called sons of God.
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When Satan appeared
before God, in Job 1,
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with all the other sons of
God, it's like God was saying,
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all these
people, I know are mine,
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because My Spirit
operates within them,
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but what are
you doing here? Why?
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Because you don't operate
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or you don't put
your trust and confidence,
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you weren't lead by My Spirit.
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So Satan was unique in
that group, with that respect
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because he wasn't
lead by God's Spirit.
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He was in rebellion,
he was rebellious angel.
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So anyway, everything
there points to the fact that,
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this scripture is
often misinterpreted
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and that gives you a
little more background on that.
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The only time there
will be anything like angels
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or close to being like
angels is in the resurrection.
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You'll find, matter
of fact, Mathew 5:9,
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"Blessed are the peacemakers
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for they shall be
called the sons of God." Yeah.
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But I want to
share this one also that
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this does not talk about
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before the
creation of the world,
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this is not talking
about an Adam's day,
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this is not talking
about in the days of Noah,
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this is not talking
about in the days of Christ,
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this is talking about
after the resurrection.
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Luke 20:36, speaking about
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the things that we
have, we can look forward to
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but the things that we
cannot look forward to.
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It says, "But those
who are counted worthy
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to attain that age"
that is the age to come.
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"And the
resurrections from the dead
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neither marry nor
are given in marriage.
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Nor can they die anymore,
for they are equal to the angels
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and are sons of God,
being sons of the resurrection."
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See, there are two things
that we will have that of--
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You give the scripture
reference again for them.
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That is a Luke 20:35-36.
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Now the reason why it says
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they are equal to
angels is because there,
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there is no death,
the angels don't die.
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That the angels are with God,
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don't die and
neither will we die,
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that's what the
equality of angels come in.
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Not now all of a sudden we are,
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we have lost
what God has given us
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the ability to do
it in the beginning
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nor has the angels gained
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what God has not given
them the ability to do,
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you see, there's no switching
of roles here at all. Good.
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Well, I have another
question here, I think.
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What happens to people
and let me read this letter
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because this is the
person that sent the request.
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Speaking about, I
work in the medical field
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with patients who have
multiple personalities.
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Some are nice
people and some are not.
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Some could even be
very evil or very scorn.
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When Jesus
judges in the last days,
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who does He judge to be fair?
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In another
words, which personality
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is He going to judge?
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These patients I care
for are one person one day
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and another the next day.
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First of all, I
understand the context of that,
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because, you know the
Bible even suggests that,
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we are the same way
before we come to Christ.
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Because there's an old
man, there's a new man.
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We put on the new
man, which is Christ
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because the old man that we
have when we were born as Adam.
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So to some degree, we
have two personalities.
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Jesus came to put one to death,
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so that the new one Christ
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could reign in
through our lives.
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But I would say
this, first of all,
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to answer the question
with an authoritative answer,
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I almost have to have
to the sovereignty of God
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to know, how this
person needs to be assigned.
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But I don't have
that sovereignty,
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I cannot see beyond the surface.
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Now I want to give
you the scriptures,
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so that will encourage you
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because God
doesn't see as we see,
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as you know the Bible says,
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it's high as the
heavens are above the earth,
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His ways are above are ways,
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and His thoughts
are above our thoughts.
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And the Bible says, He
does not see as men sees.
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Men looks at the
outward appearance,
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God looks at the heart.
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So there may be
individuals who are held captive
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in this multiple personality
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and we see one
thing, but God sees another.
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Someone also told me about this
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and I am not a doctor, so
if, I am incorrect on this,
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you know, I'll
appreciate your emails.
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Sometimes people
are thinking something
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but don't have
the ability either
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because of the
debilitating disease to say it.
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I even know that some people who
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are challenged with Alzheimer's
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sometimes, they want
to communicate to you,
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but then at the end, they're
just shaking their heads.
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You know sometimes
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I am not going to go down
the list of diseases here,
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but the experiences have been
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science has discovered that
sometimes people with autism,
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and they'll say,
well, they don't think like
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regular child does, but
they are very intelligent.
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And so I even
heard of young kids,
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who said, you know there
was a program on Oprah Winfrey,
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and I am using
this as a reference,
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where they said, it's not--
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the problem is not how
your child is being taught,
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but the problem
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but the challenge is
how your child is wired.
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Because some children
learn differently than others
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and so this
program was designed that,
00:21:01.94\00:21:04.85
if you understand
how the child thinks,
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then you could understand,
how to teach that child
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and by and large, you
know the prodigy children,
00:21:09.94\00:21:13.54
they call them
prodigal or prodigy children,
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very, very intelligent,
00:21:15.69\00:21:17.91
they are so far
ahead of the normal mind
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that they have to be
taught quite differently.
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But in this context,
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I think that the personality
is going to be judged
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are somewhat based on
these two Bible verses.
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As I mentioned a moment ago,
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what God sees and what we see
is something totally different.
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Proverbs 23:7, "For as He
thinks in his heart, so is He."
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So the Lord sees
what's in the heart,
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not just what's
coming out of the mouth?
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All right. All right.
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Now Hebrews 4:12,
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"For the word of God
is living and powerful,
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and sharper than
any two edged sword,
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piercing even to the
division of soul and spirit,
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and adjoins and marrow,
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and is a
discerner of the thoughts
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and intents of the heart."
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So it not only goes
to the, what he thinks
00:22:00.15\00:22:02.94
but the thoughts and intentions.
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Motives. The motives.
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And sometimes a person's motive
00:22:07.20\00:22:10.26
is even more important
than the actual actions.
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The one you're talking
about addictions. Oh, yeah.
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Understanding how steep
some of these addictions are.
00:22:16.98\00:22:19.91
So you know what are
the motives of that person,
00:22:19.94\00:22:21.58
where is the desire and
God looks at those motives.
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We are walking
through a hospital sometime
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and I have seen
some situations where
00:22:27.54\00:22:29.44
you're walking to
the ward of a hospital
00:22:29.47\00:22:30.96
where there seems to
be people that are just,
00:22:30.99\00:22:33.38
you can't communicate
with them, but the nurses say,
00:22:33.41\00:22:35.50
I understand exactly
what they're trying to say,
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because they all of a sudden
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are able to
communicate on that level.
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And God sees further
than even that nurse can.
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Good stuff.
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Let's look at one more question,
I think we can get in here.
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This one is from Vern
and he is saying here,
00:22:48.14\00:22:53.26
that he has been
Seventh-day Adventist Christian
00:22:53.29\00:22:56.16
for about the last three years,
00:22:56.19\00:22:58.25
and he's had a lot of
reform and changes in his life,
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the God is doing a lot of
powerful things in his life.
00:23:01.25\00:23:03.27
Praise the
Lord, Vern by the way.
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Give him the
glory, that's great.
00:23:05.98\00:23:07.84
And-- but then he says here,
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that one thing that he just
can't seemed to quit is smoking.
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He is just beaten
himself up over this,
00:23:14.32\00:23:17.23
he can't, speaking of addiction,
00:23:17.26\00:23:19.25
he can't seem to
overcome this thing
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but he's changed in so
many other areas of his life,
00:23:20.77\00:23:23.75
and so he is wondering here,
00:23:23.78\00:23:26.73
should he continue
look down upon himself
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or will he really find
faith and victory in Christ.
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What is our hope
that we can give him?
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And so we just like
to kind of encourage you,
00:23:35.21\00:23:37.06
here Vern that, you know,
00:23:37.09\00:23:40.45
we are talking
about addictions here,
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addictions are so very
very difficult to understand.
00:23:41.74\00:23:46.79
They are strong, they
have a lot of power over us,
00:23:46.82\00:23:49.03
because our minds
are wired as such that
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we are just so used
to doing these habits
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that it just takes
time to break out of them.
00:23:53.50\00:23:55.46
In fact the Lord is the
only one that can cut those,
00:23:55.49\00:23:58.36
super highways of our brain
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that incline us to do
this repeated actions.
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Smoking is very
much one of those.
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In fact sometimes it's not just
the nicotine, that's addictive
00:24:04.40\00:24:07.75
but the habit of how you do it,
00:24:07.78\00:24:09.58
and when you do it
and all those others--
00:24:09.61\00:24:10.83
You train
yourself, yeah. You do.
00:24:10.86\00:24:12.27
You just train
yourself for a life time
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sometimes to do those things.
00:24:13.96\00:24:15.80
So God
recognizes that I believe.
00:24:15.83\00:24:18.41
And although
you've had some reforms
00:24:18.44\00:24:19.90
and some changes in your life,
00:24:19.93\00:24:20.96
some wonderful
things God is doing,
00:24:20.99\00:24:22.65
God is not given up on
changing your habit of smoking.
00:24:22.68\00:24:27.53
So one thing you
should never do is give up,
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because God doesn't want you
to destroy your body by smoking.
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We can just say
that right there.
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So no one should say,
00:24:36.42\00:24:37.45
well I am never going
to get rid of this habit,
00:24:37.48\00:24:39.02
because God
just, you know hasn't,
00:24:39.05\00:24:40.53
you know I just
can't find the victory.
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Through Christ and through God,
all things are possible, right.
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We know that from His word.
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So the issue
here is never give up.
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Keep trying,
keep putting yourself
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under the strength
00:24:56.63\00:24:58.68
and the power
of the Holy Spirit.
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Ask for the Holy Spirit
everyday to give you the power
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and strength to
overcome and never stop trying,
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but there's something
else that goes with that,
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that should be your motive.
00:25:08.27\00:25:09.36
But the other
part is build yourself
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some relationship
within the church community,
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a friend or
someone you can trust,
00:25:14.50\00:25:17.28
some accountability partner.
00:25:17.31\00:25:19.76
Ask them or ask somebody
who is trained in these areas
00:25:19.79\00:25:23.24
of quitting
smoking and other things
00:25:23.27\00:25:24.95
to help you to overcome.
00:25:24.98\00:25:26.97
And you may say, well I've tried
00:25:27.00\00:25:28.07
all these
different kinds of programs
00:25:28.10\00:25:29.34
and nothing has
worked, but keep trying.
00:25:29.37\00:25:32.02
I mean something we
have found story after story,
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John, and you've
heard this as well
00:25:34.56\00:25:35.68
that God has miraculously
delivered people from smoking.
00:25:35.71\00:25:38.78
I think that's the key there.
00:25:38.81\00:25:40.53
And it's just, you
just can't give up though.
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Here's a thing,
don't ever resort to say,
00:25:42.62\00:25:44.13
well, I just, I am never
going to get rid of this habit.
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God will give you
deliverance from that habit,
00:25:46.42\00:25:49.81
just keep on pursuing
this different avenues
00:25:49.84\00:25:52.50
and God's strength
to help you overcome.
00:25:52.53\00:25:54.94
I believe also you
have to claim a victory,
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1 Corinthians 15:57, I
believe it is where it says,
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"But thanks to be to God,
which gives us the victory
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through our Lord Jesus Christ."
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I sat a person down once,
and I said to that person,
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do you believe that
00:26:09.84\00:26:11.19
Jesus is able to give
you the victory over smoking.
00:26:11.22\00:26:13.83
He said, yes.
00:26:13.86\00:26:15.13
I said, do you think that
00:26:15.16\00:26:16.19
the cigarette is
greater than the Lord?
00:26:16.22\00:26:18.34
He said, no.
00:26:18.37\00:26:19.73
I said, do you think
that the cigarette is greater
00:26:19.76\00:26:21.97
than Jesus' ability
to deliver? He said, no.
00:26:22.00\00:26:25.78
I said, so let's go
ahead and claim the victory
00:26:25.81\00:26:28.24
and let's live in the
victory. He says, okay.
00:26:28.27\00:26:31.20
We prayed, we anointed
him, claim the victory.
00:26:31.23\00:26:33.92
And then I said, now
do you have any cigarettes
00:26:33.95\00:26:36.62
in your truck at
all? He said, yeah.
00:26:36.65\00:26:39.55
I said well go get them for me.
00:26:39.58\00:26:40.61
He said, "Well, can I
smoke those last ones."
00:26:40.64\00:26:43.99
I said, you
haven't claimed the victory
00:26:44.02\00:26:46.65
because the addiction,
he was so used to the habit.
00:26:46.68\00:26:51.75
He was still leaving
the avenue open there.
00:26:51.78\00:26:53.89
Right, he was not,
he was not allowing
00:26:53.92\00:26:57.06
the propitiation of
Christ to take effect.
00:26:57.09\00:26:59.75
He was not
allowing the substitution,
00:26:59.78\00:27:02.78
and that's what
that is all about.
00:27:02.81\00:27:04.41
You see, when you
take something away,
00:27:04.44\00:27:05.74
it has to be immediately
replaced with something else.
00:27:05.77\00:27:08.51
That's the other
thing I was going to say.
00:27:08.54\00:27:09.57
You have to, but I can't carry,
00:27:09.60\00:27:13.37
I can't play on
two basket ball teams
00:27:13.40\00:27:15.01
at the same
time, it's impossible,
00:27:15.04\00:27:17.94
for me to play for the
Lakers and the New York Knicks,
00:27:17.97\00:27:21.00
when they are
playing against each other.
00:27:21.03\00:27:23.33
You've got to decide
whose team you're on,
00:27:23.36\00:27:26.24
put on the uniform
and play like a champion
00:27:26.27\00:27:29.18
because the Lord
gives you the victory.
00:27:29.21\00:27:30.88
Then there are those,
who sometimes honestly,
00:27:30.91\00:27:33.38
the chemicals and they say,
well the chemical addiction,
00:27:33.41\00:27:36.40
well, I've been smoking so long.
00:27:36.43\00:27:38.25
The reason I am so adamant
about this, is my mother,
00:27:38.28\00:27:41.86
and she is now
resting now in the Lord,
00:27:41.89\00:27:43.62
she was a two to
three pack smoker a day,
00:27:43.65\00:27:46.50
she was an alcoholic,
00:27:46.53\00:27:48.06
but she, I said, mom,
go and claim the victory,
00:27:48.09\00:27:50.32
she went to a pastor, prayed
00:27:50.35\00:27:52.43
and from that day to the day
00:27:52.46\00:27:53.66
she passed away
the craving was gone,
00:27:53.69\00:27:56.24
the addiction was gone.
00:27:56.27\00:27:58.05
The desire for it was
gone, I mean instantly--
00:27:58.08\00:28:01.73
Because of her
willingness to cooperate
00:28:01.76\00:28:03.32
and to claim that victory
and to walk in the victory.
00:28:03.35\00:28:06.48
You got to walk in the victory.
00:28:06.51\00:28:07.91
You know, the other part too
00:28:07.94\00:28:08.98
you made an
interesting comment there
00:28:09.01\00:28:10.75
and I thought you're
going to head this direction
00:28:10.78\00:28:11.99
but I'll emphasize what
you were saying, was that,
00:28:12.02\00:28:14.41
you got to replace the habit
with something else. Instantly.
00:28:14.44\00:28:17.31
Just like when you
become a Christian,
00:28:17.34\00:28:19.29
you've got to
replace with what you read
00:28:19.32\00:28:21.11
with the word of God
because the word of God
00:28:21.14\00:28:23.15
gives you power and
strength. You like to read?
00:28:23.18\00:28:25.00
But yeah, but even in
the aspect of what we do,
00:28:25.03\00:28:29.76
surrounding when we eat,
00:28:29.79\00:28:31.38
surrounding when we're
hanging out with our friends
00:28:31.41\00:28:32.91
and those other
things, you got to replace
00:28:32.94\00:28:34.35
what you used to do,
smoke with other things,
00:28:34.38\00:28:37.95
so some people
say, well, you know,
00:28:37.98\00:28:40.23
we need to pick up the habit
for a while of chewing gum,
00:28:40.26\00:28:43.62
you know, or they
need to pick up the habit
00:28:43.65\00:28:45.46
of you know, doing
something else like,
00:28:45.49\00:28:49.06
one person did lemons.
00:28:49.09\00:28:50.90
Every time they had the
desire to pick up and smoke,
00:28:50.93\00:28:53.39
they enjoyed
lemons, so they had lemons,
00:28:53.42\00:28:55.31
they would always cut up
and they started eating lemons
00:28:55.34\00:28:57.03
and they build the lemon
habit over the smoking habit.
00:28:57.06\00:29:00.53
They replaced it.
00:29:00.56\00:29:01.59
So they replaced it there,
00:29:01.62\00:29:02.93
so physically there
are things you need to do,
00:29:02.96\00:29:05.90
but as you do
those, you link the victory
00:29:05.93\00:29:09.36
and you walk forward
in victory in Christ.
00:29:09.39\00:29:12.04
So couple of
aspects that we hope
00:29:12.07\00:29:13.83
that we can give you
to encourage you there,
00:29:13.86\00:29:16.43
because through Christ
all things are possible.
00:29:16.46\00:29:19.00
That's exactly.
00:29:19.03\00:29:20.62
I can do all things through
Christ who strengthens me.
00:29:20.65\00:29:22.90
Thank you, for all your
Bible comments and questions
00:29:22.93\00:29:25.67
and as we mentioned before.
00:29:25.70\00:29:26.93
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00:29:26.96\00:29:28.90
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00:29:28.93\00:29:33.20
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00:29:33.23\00:29:37.66
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00:29:37.69\00:29:40.51
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00:29:40.54\00:29:43.53
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00:29:43.56\00:29:47.53
Thank you for all of
your comments and questions.
00:29:47.56\00:29:50.02
And today we are going into
00:29:50.05\00:29:52.66
the next part of
the topic of salvation.
00:29:52.69\00:29:56.05
John, this is such
an interesting topic.
00:29:56.08\00:29:58.98
On our last
program, we made some headway
00:29:59.01\00:30:01.84
but today we're going to
dive in little more deeply
00:30:01.87\00:30:04.08
into this
program about salvation
00:30:04.11\00:30:05.88
because everyone
wants to be saved.
00:30:05.91\00:30:07.90
I went to a
church not too long ago,
00:30:07.93\00:30:09.82
when I asked this question,
in the midst of the sermon.
00:30:09.85\00:30:14.08
I said, if you want to
go to hell, raise your hand.
00:30:14.11\00:30:18.08
There was little
kid raises his hand
00:30:18.11\00:30:20.46
and obviously he
didn't understand.
00:30:20.49\00:30:22.34
But no one else
raised their hand.
00:30:22.37\00:30:23.89
And I said, what
amazes me is that,
00:30:23.92\00:30:26.24
none of you raised your hand,
00:30:26.27\00:30:27.38
yet when the
call is going to be,
00:30:27.41\00:30:28.67
when the call is made
at the end of the sermon,
00:30:28.70\00:30:30.67
I wonder how many of you
00:30:30.70\00:30:31.73
are going to
respond to go to heaven.
00:30:31.76\00:30:34.00
Now praise God, the response
was tremendous at the very end
00:30:34.03\00:30:38.96
because I believe that
I laid the foundation--
00:30:38.99\00:30:40.63
the break seems
hold on them earlier.
00:30:40.66\00:30:42.99
They said, no one
wants to go to hell.
00:30:43.02\00:30:44.30
So when I made the
call to go to heaven,
00:30:44.33\00:30:46.26
everybody should respond. Sure.
00:30:46.29\00:30:47.91
And there was a
tremendous response to that.
00:30:47.94\00:30:49.97
But when we think of salvation,
this is something people need,
00:30:50.00\00:30:54.62
and it's a gift.
00:30:54.65\00:30:57.49
So let's go ahead,
00:30:57.52\00:30:59.21
I know we started with the
most popular text last week.
00:30:59.24\00:31:03.00
Let's do that
again on this program.
00:31:03.03\00:31:05.76
For those who may have
missed the last broadcast,
00:31:05.79\00:31:08.12
begin with the central text.
00:31:08.15\00:31:10.97
And the one that I am
thinking of is Ephesians 2:8-9,
00:31:11.00\00:31:15.59
but I want to go a
different route this week
00:31:15.62\00:31:17.15
and start with John 3:16.
00:31:17.18\00:31:19.17
Yeah, we talked
just to recap last time
00:31:19.20\00:31:22.05
about the three
aspects of that salvation,
00:31:22.08\00:31:24.80
linking together, justification,
00:31:24.83\00:31:27.53
sanctification
and glorification.
00:31:27.56\00:31:29.83
We didn't talk a
lot about glorification,
00:31:29.86\00:31:31.38
but glorification is of course,
00:31:31.41\00:31:33.46
entering into the
kingdom with a new body,
00:31:33.49\00:31:35.51
an incorruptible body
living eternally with Christ.
00:31:35.54\00:31:39.36
So those three
aspects we talked about
00:31:39.39\00:31:42.67
and to compare those three,
00:31:42.70\00:31:44.80
I think we defined that
as justification as being
00:31:44.83\00:31:47.57
delivered from
the penalty of sin.
00:31:47.60\00:31:50.32
Sanctification
delivered from the power of sin.
00:31:50.35\00:31:53.91
And then glorification delivered
from the presence of sin.
00:31:53.94\00:31:57.34
That sin is no more.
00:31:57.37\00:31:59.22
So now, now let's go back
to a more practical aspect.
00:31:59.25\00:32:03.09
We talked about the
theology a little bit.
00:32:03.12\00:32:05.75
Now let's go to
the practical aspect,
00:32:05.78\00:32:07.07
the most popular text
in the Bible. Oh, I think--
00:32:07.10\00:32:09.63
I agree, let's go there,
John, you have that probably.
00:32:09.66\00:32:11.76
You know, I don't know how,
00:32:11.79\00:32:12.87
I don't know if we get
this text when we're born.
00:32:12.90\00:32:15.89
I don't know if
this is the same thing,
00:32:15.92\00:32:17.12
they give us a baby blanket
00:32:17.15\00:32:18.32
and then they give us John 3:16,
00:32:18.35\00:32:19.73
but everybody knows this
Bible verse. That's right.
00:32:19.76\00:32:24.23
We all know the
King James Version.
00:32:24.26\00:32:26.25
The atheists could
do this text by memory.
00:32:26.28\00:32:29.00
I think it's part
of come into the world,
00:32:29.03\00:32:30.72
the Lord says,
I'm going to make sure
00:32:30.75\00:32:32.24
that on the day you come out,
00:32:32.27\00:32:33.33
you have absolutely no excuse.
00:32:33.36\00:32:35.70
For God so loved the world.
00:32:35.73\00:32:39.30
Notice John, in California,
you know kids would say,
00:32:39.33\00:32:41.67
I so love the
car or I so don't--
00:32:41.70\00:32:44.78
I'm so, you know,
yeah the emphasis.
00:32:44.81\00:32:48.47
The Lord had that
long before us. Yeah.
00:32:48.50\00:32:50.68
I don't just love
you, I so loved the world,
00:32:50.71\00:32:53.43
for God so loved the world
00:32:53.46\00:32:54.73
that He gave His
only begotten son
00:32:54.76\00:32:57.38
that whomsoever,
00:32:57.41\00:33:01.16
I mean, that's an
invitation to everybody.
00:33:01.19\00:33:04.19
I am whomsoever-
whosoever believed in Him,
00:33:04.22\00:33:07.97
should not perish,
00:33:08.00\00:33:10.28
but have
everlasting life. That's right.
00:33:10.31\00:33:14.61
Salvation, ever lasting
life, offered to everybody.
00:33:14.64\00:33:20.96
There's no essence
for anybody to be lost,
00:33:20.99\00:33:23.15
but why is it that
people don't accept salvation.
00:33:23.18\00:33:25.86
Let's begin to break this
down into the context here.
00:33:25.89\00:33:27.71
Yeah, this text
is so clear here,
00:33:27.74\00:33:29.48
and so good for
us to start, John,
00:33:29.51\00:33:31.12
because it gives a
two dichotomies here.
00:33:31.15\00:33:33.97
You have those who
are lost, were born
00:33:34.00\00:33:37.31
because of Adam and Eve sin,
00:33:37.34\00:33:39.08
that's been
passing death down to us
00:33:39.11\00:33:40.76
and sin down to
us for a long time.
00:33:40.79\00:33:42.58
Every human being is being born
00:33:42.61\00:33:44.84
with a fallen
state, a sinful state.
00:33:44.87\00:33:48.69
And as we grow into
our age of capability
00:33:48.72\00:33:52.76
and other things we find that,
00:33:52.79\00:33:54.07
the sins that we are
committing doom us to,
00:33:54.10\00:33:56.57
to not only death but
to eternal death. Right.
00:33:56.60\00:34:00.09
And so this scriptures clearly
gives us the dichotomy here,
00:34:00.12\00:34:03.67
that there's a
death waiting at the door,
00:34:03.70\00:34:05.64
there's an eternal
death waiting at the door
00:34:05.67\00:34:06.93
but God loved us too much to
leave us there. That's right.
00:34:06.96\00:34:11.21
And so we all need salvation.
00:34:11.24\00:34:13.04
And here we had God
enters into the picture.
00:34:13.07\00:34:15.84
And this is
something I said often,
00:34:15.87\00:34:17.39
John, that Christianity
provides the only avenue
00:34:17.42\00:34:22.27
for being saved
from certain death,
00:34:22.30\00:34:25.13
because it says that God,
00:34:25.16\00:34:27.19
the creator of
the world stepped in
00:34:27.22\00:34:29.39
and provided the way.
00:34:29.42\00:34:31.30
Other religions, that you'll
find in this world teach this,
00:34:31.33\00:34:33.76
somehow we can
arise above our condition
00:34:33.79\00:34:37.69
in doing enough to be
able to receive from God,
00:34:37.72\00:34:41.29
a satisfactory stamp that says,
00:34:41.32\00:34:43.19
we have done enough
to get to the next level,
00:34:43.22\00:34:45.12
to get to heaven.
00:34:45.15\00:34:46.18
Whether that be reincarnation
00:34:46.21\00:34:48.53
which some teach,
whether that be paradise
00:34:48.56\00:34:51.81
where you have virgin
women waiting for you,
00:34:51.84\00:34:54.61
whether that be all
these other different aspects
00:34:54.64\00:34:56.60
of what is the perfect,
you know, heaven to them.
00:34:56.63\00:34:59.68
But God says, that
Jesus took our place,
00:34:59.71\00:35:03.50
took that penalty on our behalf.
00:35:03.53\00:35:05.63
And now gives it to us freely,
00:35:05.66\00:35:07.97
which is where we started
our last text, Ephesians 2:8-9.
00:35:08.00\00:35:11.32
So this is the
place we got to start,
00:35:11.35\00:35:13.15
because God
gives us eternal life
00:35:13.18\00:35:15.63
where before were all
we had, all we deserved,
00:35:15.66\00:35:18.75
all we were
getting was eternal death.
00:35:18.78\00:35:21.63
Salvation at the
core, what is it.
00:35:21.66\00:35:25.58
And I want to look at two sides.
00:35:25.61\00:35:28.45
I am going to
start in Genesis 1,
00:35:28.48\00:35:31.00
because it is important to see,
00:35:31.03\00:35:32.79
if the Lord wants to
restore us to before sin.
00:35:32.82\00:35:36.52
It's important for us to
see, what we were before sin.
00:35:36.55\00:35:40.76
We always say
salvation. What is salvation?
00:35:40.79\00:35:43.25
It's restoration to
what we were before sin,
00:35:43.28\00:35:46.64
because if sin
never entered the world,
00:35:46.67\00:35:48.34
that's the nature we would have.
00:35:48.37\00:35:50.63
That's the
nature we would possess.
00:35:50.66\00:35:52.04
Another need for salvation
too is redemption. Right.
00:35:52.07\00:35:54.65
And redemption
is a redeeming back,
00:35:54.68\00:35:56.63
it's pulling it
back to where it was,
00:35:56.66\00:35:58.41
putting in back on to
that level where it was before.
00:35:58.44\00:36:01.43
I know my New York
accent may get in the way here
00:36:01.46\00:36:03.11
but, a pawn, p-a-w-n shop.
00:36:03.14\00:36:07.04
I may want you to
sermonize it. I know.
00:36:07.07\00:36:09.00
How many of you
ever been to a pawn shop
00:36:09.03\00:36:11.35
and no one raised their
hand and I wondered why.
00:36:11.38\00:36:13.68
And they said, my
accent, it sounded different,
00:36:13.71\00:36:16.38
I said, you know
on the military bases
00:36:16.41\00:36:18.46
where you go, buy
things, 'oh-okay!'
00:36:18.49\00:36:20.95
I know, what
you're talking about,
00:36:20.98\00:36:22.20
yeah, in fact, Rochelle
and I still laugh at them,
00:36:22.23\00:36:23.81
because we looked around, we
knew what you were to saying,
00:36:23.84\00:36:26.48
and everybody was like...
00:36:26.51\00:36:27.92
but what you didn't see,
00:36:27.95\00:36:29.35
John was a couple
of people are like--
00:36:29.38\00:36:33.41
and, of course,
when you explained it,
00:36:33.44\00:36:34.54
they said, oh. Exactly.
00:36:34.57\00:36:36.97
But anyway one of
those funny things
00:36:37.00\00:36:38.38
that happen at times.
00:36:38.41\00:36:39.44
And I thought redemption value,
00:36:39.47\00:36:41.27
because when you go and you,
00:36:41.30\00:36:42.55
you pawn your
guitar, or your walkie-talkie
00:36:42.58\00:36:44.73
or whatever instrument you have,
00:36:44.76\00:36:46.90
and people want extra money.
00:36:46.93\00:36:49.42
You get this little ticket,
00:36:49.45\00:36:51.34
that you're able to
bring it back to the shop
00:36:51.37\00:36:54.45
and you're able
to redeem the item.
00:36:54.48\00:36:57.63
Well, you know friends,
00:36:57.66\00:36:59.12
Jesus when He-- his
son was that ticket.
00:36:59.15\00:37:05.19
Over
simplification of who Jesus is,
00:37:05.22\00:37:07.03
but He is the redeeming ticket.
00:37:07.06\00:37:09.19
Satan sold us off
at next to nothing,
00:37:09.22\00:37:12.66
left us in somebody' possession,
the possession of sin
00:37:12.69\00:37:16.40
and God sent His
son with redeeming value
00:37:16.43\00:37:19.86
and paid for us,
more than we were worth.
00:37:19.89\00:37:22.09
That's right. I
mean that to me is great.
00:37:22.12\00:37:24.03
Praise the Lord and you're
talking about Genesis 1 here.
00:37:24.06\00:37:27.20
We got to look
how He created us.
00:37:27.23\00:37:29.65
And I'm going to
read from Genesis 1:26.
00:37:29.68\00:37:31.41
That's from verse
26 and 27, that's--
00:37:31.44\00:37:33.19
"God said, Let us
make man in our image."
00:37:33.22\00:37:36.09
So God when He
created us, human beings,
00:37:36.12\00:37:39.46
He made us like
Him in character.
00:37:39.49\00:37:42.04
He didn't make us Gods,
00:37:42.07\00:37:43.19
as some religions teach,
I want to emphasize that.
00:37:43.22\00:37:45.12
He didn't make us
Gods, He made us human,
00:37:45.15\00:37:47.34
we were immortal,
00:37:47.37\00:37:48.49
we were eternal in
the life He gave us,
00:37:48.52\00:37:50.88
but He made us
man as human beings,
00:37:50.91\00:37:53.44
in the image of God.
Let's correct some over here.
00:37:53.47\00:37:55.76
He didn't make us immortal,
00:37:55.79\00:37:57.11
but we had as long as
we ate of the tree of life,
00:37:57.14\00:38:00.80
that life was sustained.
00:38:00.83\00:38:02.04
We didn't have
the immortality yet.
00:38:02.07\00:38:03.90
No, yeah, and
clearly, yes, that's true.
00:38:03.93\00:38:06.14
And--but He gave us that
immortality through that tree,
00:38:06.17\00:38:10.06
but He wouldn't take away
from us that we had clearly.
00:38:10.09\00:38:13.19
And it says that,
"According to our likeness,
00:38:13.22\00:38:17.50
let them have dominion
over the fish of the sea,
00:38:17.53\00:38:20.10
over the birds of
the air, over the cattle,
00:38:20.13\00:38:22.22
over all the earth, and
over every creeping thing
00:38:22.25\00:38:24.21
that creeps on the earth.
00:38:24.24\00:38:25.63
So God created
man in his own image,
00:38:25.66\00:38:28.56
in the image of
God he created him,
00:38:28.59\00:38:30.15
male and female
he created them."
00:38:30.18\00:38:36.03
And of course, verse 31 says
00:38:36.06\00:38:37.81
"Everything that God
saw he says, was very good.
00:38:37.84\00:38:41.93
He declared it very good.
00:38:41.96\00:38:43.62
So, John, we were created,
00:38:43.65\00:38:45.29
perfect,
sinless, untainted by sin.
00:38:45.32\00:38:50.09
And it didn't mean that
sin yet hadn't reared his head,
00:38:50.12\00:38:52.70
because it had.
00:38:52.73\00:38:53.76
Sin was out there but
we were created sinless.
00:38:53.79\00:38:58.31
It was like that
mosquito outside on the porch,
00:38:58.34\00:39:00.95
you know, I'll
hear in Thompsonville,
00:39:00.98\00:39:02.58
the one thing we
have is critters.
00:39:02.61\00:39:06.26
And at night, in summer time,
00:39:06.29\00:39:07.65
especially if you
have a yellow light
00:39:07.68\00:39:08.78
on the back porch,
you can see millions of,
00:39:08.81\00:39:12.12
you name it,
mosquitoes, flies, moths,
00:39:12.15\00:39:16.70
and they are
outside as long as you keep
00:39:16.73\00:39:18.36
the door shut,
everything is fine.
00:39:18.39\00:39:21.61
And that was the case.
00:39:21.64\00:39:22.70
This picture that
John just read about here,
00:39:22.73\00:39:24.52
was the door to sin was shut.
00:39:24.55\00:39:26.83
So we have the image of God.
00:39:26.86\00:39:28.72
Why do we need salvation?
00:39:28.75\00:39:31.00
Because we lost
the image of God.
00:39:31.03\00:39:34.17
We yielded to sin, we
opened that door to sin.
00:39:34.20\00:39:36.54
Yielding to sin, and that
is the story of Genesis 3.
00:39:36.57\00:39:40.41
That whole controversy,
and the fall of the man,
00:39:40.44\00:39:45.75
and losing the
beauty that God gave us,
00:39:45.78\00:39:48.30
losing our stand with God.
00:39:48.33\00:39:50.92
Yielding to the
temptation, Adam hid himself,
00:39:50.95\00:39:55.77
and when Lord
came looking for Adam,
00:39:55.80\00:39:57.84
in that fallen state,
00:39:57.87\00:39:59.82
he could not at that moment
00:39:59.85\00:40:02.17
restore Adam to
his rightful place,
00:40:02.20\00:40:05.44
because this whole thing
of sin had to run its course,
00:40:05.47\00:40:09.52
and here we are, for
thousands of years man are
00:40:09.55\00:40:13.30
and women and children,
boys and girls were all victims
00:40:13.33\00:40:16.61
of the nature that
was passed on. Yeah.
00:40:16.64\00:40:19.98
1 Corinthians 15-22,
"For as in Adam all die,
00:40:20.01\00:40:23.88
even so in Christ
shall all be made alive."
00:40:23.91\00:40:27.21
So we are born, John
and I were born on that,
00:40:27.24\00:40:30.70
as an Adam we all die.
00:40:30.73\00:40:33.06
And so if you are
watching this program,
00:40:33.09\00:40:34.46
listening to this
program, keep this in mind,
00:40:34.49\00:40:37.26
it doesn't matter
your financial status,
00:40:37.29\00:40:39.49
your educational, your
place, your neighborhood
00:40:39.52\00:40:42.05
where you live, how
many people know you,
00:40:42.08\00:40:43.94
how famous you are,
or how insignificant
00:40:43.97\00:40:45.88
you may find yourself to be,
00:40:45.91\00:40:47.58
everyone of us, if we are
not in the nature of Christ,
00:40:47.61\00:40:50.63
if we are not born
again, we need to be born
00:40:50.66\00:40:53.99
because we are
in that Adam nature,
00:40:54.02\00:40:55.74
and as an Adam
all die. That's right.
00:40:55.77\00:40:58.73
You see, that perish aside,
00:40:58.76\00:41:00.71
that's exactly
where we are right now.
00:41:00.74\00:41:04.39
And the reason
why we are there is
00:41:04.42\00:41:05.85
because of the command of God,
00:41:05.88\00:41:07.87
He gave them,
not to eat of a tree
00:41:07.90\00:41:10.20
of the knowledge
of good and evil.
00:41:10.23\00:41:11.42
And of course, we
know, for those of you
00:41:11.45\00:41:12.95
who know the rest of the story,
00:41:12.98\00:41:14.74
Eve wondered from Adam's side,
00:41:14.77\00:41:16.70
she was tempted by
Satan, she ate of that fruit,
00:41:16.73\00:41:19.77
gave it to Adam and
he ate them of that fruit
00:41:19.80\00:41:21.80
and we have this death,
00:41:21.83\00:41:23.53
you know,
nature passed on to us,
00:41:23.56\00:41:24.94
and the sinful nature
passed on to us. Now--
00:41:24.97\00:41:28.21
But talk about this, John,
I know you're going to do it,
00:41:28.24\00:41:30.53
but just talk about
that, because the Lord says,
00:41:30.56\00:41:33.10
the day you eat of this
tree, you shall surely die,
00:41:33.13\00:41:35.89
Adam didn't die that
die, but what did die?
00:41:35.92\00:41:38.61
Spiritually he died. Okay.
00:41:38.64\00:41:40.10
His sins separated him from God,
00:41:40.13\00:41:42.06
and we find in the
rest of the scripture,
00:41:42.09\00:41:43.29
telling us that
sin does exactly that.
00:41:43.32\00:41:46.12
It separates us from God.
00:41:46.15\00:41:48.23
So it fractured
everything that we had in God,
00:41:48.26\00:41:53.50
the image that was given to man,
00:41:53.53\00:41:55.01
the God's image
that was put in man,
00:41:55.04\00:41:57.12
when He created
him, it fractured that,
00:41:57.15\00:41:59.11
so we were separated from him.
00:41:59.14\00:42:00.40
So it talks about that too.
00:42:00.43\00:42:03.27
So when you are
created, when you're born,
00:42:03.30\00:42:07.93
you're born as an old
man state, the carnal nature,
00:42:07.96\00:42:12.30
and you do not have within you,
00:42:12.33\00:42:14.10
because you are
in a fallen nature,
00:42:14.13\00:42:15.17
you don't have
within you, God's image.
00:42:15.20\00:42:18.84
Right, you don't
have this inherent desire
00:42:18.87\00:42:21.47
just to be perfect, okay.
00:42:21.50\00:42:23.63
So you have in fact
one text is good for that
00:42:23.66\00:42:25.89
is Romans 3:23, we
read the last time.
00:42:25.92\00:42:28.91
Yes, yes. Here it is.
00:42:28.94\00:42:30.95
You're at there. Okay.
00:42:30.98\00:42:32.31
Romans 3:23,
"For all have sinned,
00:42:32.34\00:42:37.21
and fall short of
the glory of God."
00:42:37.24\00:42:40.84
And it is a good text because
00:42:40.87\00:42:42.33
the sin is missing
the mark there. Right.
00:42:42.36\00:42:44.90
We're born missing it,
we can't hit it ourselves.
00:42:44.93\00:42:48.71
We'll fall short of God's glory,
00:42:48.74\00:42:50.59
what He had given
us from the beginning.
00:42:50.62\00:42:52.54
He designed that we
would have our glory.
00:42:52.57\00:42:56.03
But now we don't have
it and we need salvation.
00:42:56.06\00:42:59.43
And the other thing about it is,
00:42:59.46\00:43:00.60
one of the reasons why
we must be born again is
00:43:00.63\00:43:02.32
because we cannot-we cannot
even be cloned into being good.
00:43:02.35\00:43:06.52
You know, there is this
cloning thing going on nowadays
00:43:06.55\00:43:08.50
that people want to have
it, maintain a thorough bred
00:43:08.53\00:43:10.94
and so they get the
dog, they clone the dog,
00:43:10.97\00:43:13.42
or they clone the
cow, or they clone the goat
00:43:13.45\00:43:15.18
or they are into
this cloning aspect.
00:43:15.21\00:43:17.50
Salvation is not cloning.
00:43:17.53\00:43:19.87
Salvation is being born again,
00:43:19.90\00:43:21.19
because we are born unable,
we all sin, we all fall short.
00:43:21.22\00:43:26.28
So you cannot create
anybody from the womb,
00:43:26.31\00:43:29.33
nobody can come into the world,
00:43:29.36\00:43:30.69
that would be--
that will make the mark.
00:43:30.72\00:43:33.30
Because that nature
00:43:33.33\00:43:34.41
that Adam passed
on to every one of us,
00:43:34.44\00:43:36.60
we possess at the time of birth.
00:43:36.63\00:43:40.94
How is this different
from the phrase, original sin?
00:43:40.97\00:43:44.77
You know, that
phrase original sin.
00:43:44.80\00:43:47.61
It's just amazing.
00:43:47.64\00:43:48.92
But let me not go
down that path right now.
00:43:48.95\00:43:51.14
And may be you could
submit that question,
00:43:51.17\00:43:52.65
I just kind of doing out there.
00:43:52.68\00:43:53.96
Yeah, I'm going
to read, Romans 6:23,
00:43:53.99\00:43:56.92
because we needed to transition
00:43:56.95\00:43:58.01
to kind of what the
result is of this. Yes.
00:43:58.04\00:44:00.85
"The wages of sin
which Adam and Eve committed
00:44:00.88\00:44:03.58
and pass on to us is death"
00:44:03.61\00:44:07.65
but the gift of God,
notice what is it, it's a gift,
00:44:07.68\00:44:11.53
"the gift of God is
eternal life in whom,
00:44:11.56\00:44:15.15
Christ, Jesus our Lord."
Okay, so clearly it's a gift.
00:44:15.18\00:44:18.99
And we read that from
last, in our last program
00:44:19.02\00:44:20.88
Ephesians 2:8-9 that
God's gift comes by grace,
00:44:20.91\00:44:26.16
through faith in Jesus Christ.
00:44:26.19\00:44:29.20
And so for those of
you who may have heard,
00:44:29.23\00:44:32.44
let's deal with
this right upfront.
00:44:32.47\00:44:34.19
They may have heard, well
those Seventh day Adventist
00:44:34.22\00:44:35.95
and they keep the law
00:44:35.98\00:44:37.72
and you know,
they are little bit of,
00:44:37.75\00:44:39.83
they focus on the
legal aspects of salvation,
00:44:39.86\00:44:42.34
all the things you need to do.
00:44:42.37\00:44:43.97
Let's dispel
that. Right. Right here.
00:44:44.00\00:44:47.17
The Seventh-day
Adventist Christian
00:44:47.20\00:44:49.89
from what we find in God's word
00:44:49.92\00:44:51.95
that eternal life, the
gift that we receive is free.
00:44:51.98\00:44:56.06
That's right.
00:44:56.09\00:44:57.83
I-the sermon I
preached this last Sabbath was,
00:44:57.86\00:45:04.51
going for gold.
00:45:04.54\00:45:06.14
Of course, playing on
the Olympics, going for gold.
00:45:06.17\00:45:08.79
And the second
part of that title was
00:45:08.82\00:45:13.31
the 'Divine law of reciprocity'
00:45:13.34\00:45:16.30
which is they are coming back
00:45:16.33\00:45:18.73
you know, as someone gives,
00:45:18.76\00:45:20.42
the natural
inclination of someone
00:45:20.45\00:45:21.79
is to want to give back,
00:45:21.82\00:45:23.93
God operates within that law
and He instill that within us.
00:45:23.96\00:45:26.92
When God gives us
salvation it's a free gift,
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but there is
reciprocity attached to it,
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because He wants us to respond
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and He built within us
the natural inclination
00:45:37.09\00:45:39.15
to want to respond
to God. The vacuum.
00:45:39.18\00:45:43.37
Yeah, they are saying,
00:45:43.40\00:45:44.54
you gave me such
an incredible gift,
00:45:44.57\00:45:47.20
I want to respond to
you by giving you my best.
00:45:47.23\00:45:50.76
And in my relationship
with Rochelle, yours in Angie.
00:45:50.79\00:45:54.10
If our
relationship was one sided,
00:45:54.13\00:45:56.26
if it was a bunch
of take, take, take,
00:45:56.29\00:45:59.63
how long would that
relationship really last?
00:45:59.66\00:46:01.80
Wow, it wouldn't last very long.
00:46:01.83\00:46:04.12
But you know when
Rochelle does something for me
00:46:04.15\00:46:06.49
that's really nice,
I say within myself,
00:46:06.52\00:46:10.21
well, I want to do
something back for her.
00:46:10.24\00:46:12.72
I want to give
something back to her,
00:46:12.75\00:46:13.93
it's just built within me.
00:46:13.96\00:46:15.56
And that's why I called
the divine law of reciprocity.
00:46:15.59\00:46:17.94
Naturally God gave us
00:46:17.97\00:46:19.15
the inclination to
want to do something good
00:46:19.18\00:46:20.79
back to somebody else.
00:46:20.82\00:46:21.85
But here's what we teach in
Christianity today at large.
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We often say that God
gave us the free gift,
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with no inclination to respond,
00:46:28.52\00:46:31.67
and you don't have to respond,
00:46:31.70\00:46:32.99
you don't have to
respond on that inclination
00:46:33.02\00:46:34.58
that He gave you to give back.
00:46:34.61\00:46:36.49
You just walk in the
gift and you're fine.
00:46:36.52\00:46:39.73
But I believe, rather than tying
00:46:39.76\00:46:42.16
a legalistic approach to this,
00:46:42.19\00:46:43.40
that we have to keep
the commandments of God,
00:46:43.43\00:46:45.13
what I'm saying here is
that God gives us the free gift,
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and builds within us the
desire to give back to Him,
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which is in what
form, following His ways,
00:46:50.89\00:46:53.64
keeping His love,
walking in His spirit.
00:46:53.67\00:46:55.82
Those things that are
part of the whole relationship
00:46:55.85\00:46:59.18
that God has given to us.
00:46:59.21\00:47:01.59
So when you meet the Lord,
00:47:01.62\00:47:04.25
when you meet Jesus and you say,
00:47:04.28\00:47:06.27
"I understand the gift
You have given me Lord,
00:47:06.30\00:47:08.51
You've died for me,
00:47:08.54\00:47:09.57
You've paid the
penalty for my penalty,
00:47:09.60\00:47:11.92
the penalty of death,
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I want to respond to you
and when I respond to you,
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I am giving you my all."
That's not legalism, John.
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That is God willing us to
have relationship with Him.
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And when we aren't giving back,
00:47:23.67\00:47:25.23
when we are not
following His ways,
00:47:25.26\00:47:27.16
what we are saying is
that's a fracture relationship,
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it's not whole. Right.
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The whole part is not there.
00:47:31.20\00:47:32.25
We need to respond in
the way that it gives us back
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and that's not legalism.
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Keeping the commandments of God
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is our best response
00:47:37.49\00:47:39.24
for what He has
given freely to us.
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When you say freely, I like that
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because I was
reading as you were-
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actually was glancing at it
00:47:47.10\00:47:48.13
as you were making
that comment that--
00:47:48.16\00:47:50.88
let's reiterate
this, Ephesians 2:8-9, "
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For by grace are you
saved through faith."
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Now what John was saying is
exactly what the Bible says.
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We are saved by
grace through faith.
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But Paul asked the
question in Romans 3:31,
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"Do we make void
the law through faith?"
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And he says,
"Certainly not or God forbid.
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On the contrary,
we establish the law."
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You see that faith
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through which we were
saved is also the faith
00:48:17.16\00:48:19.69
through which we establish
God's law in our lives.
00:48:19.72\00:48:23.15
So that faith is
not a free will faith,
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that term is so misused.
00:48:26.86\00:48:29.39
I've seen you know,
church free will this
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and free will
that, almost like to say,
00:48:31.47\00:48:33.36
my will is up to me.
00:48:33.39\00:48:35.03
Nobody can tell me
what to do with my will.
00:48:35.06\00:48:36.95
And they use the word free will
00:48:36.98\00:48:38.82
as a license to
ignore God's law.
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But listen to
the salvation again,
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Romans 5:17,
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"For if by one man's offense
death reigned through the one,"
00:48:46.29\00:48:50.29
Romans 5:17,
00:48:50.32\00:48:52.38
"Much more those who
receive abundance of grace
00:48:52.41\00:48:57.36
and of the gift of righteousness
00:48:57.39\00:49:00.08
will reign in life
through the One, Jesus Christ."
00:49:00.11\00:49:04.46
Now verse 18, "Therefore,
as through one man's offense,"
00:49:04.49\00:49:10.22
that is Adam,
"Judgment came to all men,
00:49:10.25\00:49:13.07
resulting in condemnation,"
that's the downside,
00:49:13.10\00:49:18.08
"Even so through one Man's
righteous act, " that's Christ,
00:49:18.11\00:49:22.53
"The free gift came to all men,
00:49:22.56\00:49:25.53
resulting in
justification of life."
00:49:25.56\00:49:29.10
So one man brought
death, one man brought offence
00:49:29.13\00:49:32.48
but the other one brought life,
00:49:32.51\00:49:33.87
the other one
brought justification.
00:49:33.90\00:49:35.87
See, so we were born in
that death, in that offence
00:49:35.90\00:49:38.96
but salvation
takes you now to the life
00:49:38.99\00:49:42.35
and to the
justification in that life,
00:49:42.38\00:49:44.80
that's why salvation
is so necessary. Yeah.
00:49:44.83\00:49:46.63
It takes you off death row.
00:49:46.66\00:49:49.11
I like the way
you're talking about that
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because the response there
00:49:50.21\00:49:51.58
that we give in giving
back to God is the relationship,
00:49:51.61\00:49:54.92
the ongoing relationship
we have with Him in salvation.
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And that means He
wants to appropriate to us
00:49:58.34\00:50:02.30
His perfect life.
00:50:02.33\00:50:04.38
Oh, wonderful. Okay.
00:50:04.41\00:50:05.85
So in this aspect
there is no other savior.
00:50:05.88\00:50:09.34
You cannot find another savior
00:50:09.37\00:50:10.51
because there is
not perfect being
00:50:10.54\00:50:12.69
that has ever walked
this earth in our shoes
00:50:12.72\00:50:15.21
that can give us a
perfect life freely
00:50:15.24\00:50:18.43
which we can't do ourselves.
00:50:18.46\00:50:20.47
So well, many
religions would teach you do--
00:50:20.50\00:50:22.65
you know, achieve profession
by doing the best you can.
00:50:22.68\00:50:26.24
You know, make sure
you find it within yourself
00:50:26.27\00:50:28.56
to rise above that sin
00:50:28.59\00:50:30.65
and get in that level
that God will accept you.
00:50:30.68\00:50:34.27
Jesus says, "I've done it."
00:50:34.30\00:50:36.70
I didn't know-- I
don't committed no sin,
00:50:36.73\00:50:39.40
your sin was put on me,
00:50:39.43\00:50:41.19
I bought but now I
give you in exchange
00:50:41.22\00:50:43.32
for that my perfect life.
00:50:43.35\00:50:45.51
And so when we talk
about Jesus as our savior,
00:50:45.54\00:50:47.50
there is none other who
can give me a perfect life
00:50:47.53\00:50:51.15
and declare me righteous in Him
00:50:51.18\00:50:53.22
because I believe in Him.
00:50:53.25\00:50:54.90
And so, John, there
is a transaction here.
00:50:54.93\00:50:57.78
Salvation is about not just--
00:50:57.81\00:51:01.45
not just receiving
salvation, eternal life
00:51:01.48\00:51:04.54
but it's walking
in the newness of life
00:51:04.57\00:51:06.77
that God gives us
through Jesus every day,
00:51:06.80\00:51:09.44
so that we are
seen as perfect in Him.
00:51:09.47\00:51:13.16
You put on this
robe of righteousness
00:51:13.19\00:51:15.49
that it now allows the glory
of God to be seen in our lives.
00:51:15.52\00:51:19.67
And it cannot be one way,
it has to be a transaction.
00:51:19.70\00:51:23.54
Matter of fact here is
that transaction summarized,
00:51:23.57\00:51:26.49
Romans 5:19,
00:51:26.52\00:51:28.20
"For by one man's disobedience
many were made sinners,
00:51:28.23\00:51:32.44
so also by one Man's obedience
many will be made righteous."
00:51:32.47\00:51:37.89
That's transaction.
00:51:37.92\00:51:39.34
You took from Adam something
that messed your life up.
00:51:39.37\00:51:41.83
Now take from Christ
00:51:41.86\00:51:42.89
something that will put
your life together, you see.
00:51:42.92\00:51:45.26
And here's what
we see sometimes,
00:51:45.29\00:51:46.63
now you receive Christ obedience
00:51:46.66\00:51:48.18
so now go out and do
what you want to do. Oh.
00:51:48.21\00:51:51.97
As if somehow obedience is
not required of the Christian.
00:51:52.00\00:51:55.03
I mean, are we actually saying
that God's Ten Commandments
00:51:55.06\00:51:57.30
are ten suggestions
00:51:57.33\00:51:59.02
or the way you
should live. No, no.
00:51:59.05\00:52:02.03
That's impossible but that's
an entirely different subject,
00:52:02.06\00:52:04.95
and we can talk
about that for a long time.
00:52:04.98\00:52:07.30
But I do want to say this,
00:52:07.33\00:52:08.69
let's open up a small
can of worms here. Okay.
00:52:08.72\00:52:11.55
What we find is
that a lot of people say,
00:52:11.58\00:52:14.31
well, Christ lived out
that perfect life for us.
00:52:14.34\00:52:18.08
But he did that
through His Godness,
00:52:18.11\00:52:21.69
His divine power
that He gives to us.
00:52:21.72\00:52:27.24
But I find that if He
somehow did not conquer
00:52:27.27\00:52:33.19
from our
standpoint, our advantage point
00:52:33.22\00:52:35.61
that He doesn't become a
complete savior for mankind.
00:52:35.64\00:52:39.86
So what we find here is
a little bit of distortion,
00:52:39.89\00:52:42.64
there's a little
disagreement within Christianity
00:52:42.67\00:52:44.30
is to what nature
that Jesus come in.
00:52:44.33\00:52:47.67
You know, did He come in,
00:52:47.70\00:52:50.21
in a perfect
nature of His Godness
00:52:50.24\00:52:52.79
relying on His divinity
00:52:52.82\00:52:54.86
and He wasn't susceptible
to sin when Satan tempted Him.
00:52:54.89\00:52:59.17
You know, there wasn't
even a chance of failure
00:52:59.20\00:53:02.23
or did He come to
be like one of us,
00:53:02.26\00:53:06.34
conquer in from our position
and then He says to us, here,
00:53:06.37\00:53:11.85
now I have given you
the ability to do that.
00:53:11.88\00:53:14.23
Now work with Me,
have a relationship with Me
00:53:14.26\00:53:16.33
to the point where you
now can conquer in my strength
00:53:16.36\00:53:20.56
and I can lift you
by bridging that gulf
00:53:20.59\00:53:25.10
between divinity and humanity.
00:53:25.13\00:53:26.56
I can now allow you to
be a partaker of my divinity
00:53:26.59\00:53:29.80
which is the
power of my resurrection
00:53:29.83\00:53:31.68
to bring you up to
that level of salvation
00:53:31.71\00:53:34.78
where now you are new in Christ.
00:53:34.81\00:53:37.22
See, if Jesus--
00:53:37.25\00:53:39.47
I believe if Jesus didn't
come to be like one of us,
00:53:39.50\00:53:43.46
He cannot be a
complete savior. Right.
00:53:43.49\00:53:47.25
Because He have to live to--
00:53:47.28\00:53:48.45
He came, He had to come
00:53:48.48\00:53:50.55
in the nature of Adam
after the fall. That's right.
00:53:50.58\00:53:53.68
Because there's not way that
00:53:53.71\00:53:54.80
Hebrews 4:15
could have been true,
00:53:54.83\00:53:57.01
"For we do not
have a high priest
00:53:57.04\00:53:58.64
who cannot
sympathize with our weaknesses,"
00:53:58.67\00:54:00.97
He does
sympathize with our weakness
00:54:01.00\00:54:02.52
and here is the reason why,
00:54:02.55\00:54:04.05
"But was in all points tempted
00:54:04.08\00:54:06.98
as we are, now yet without sin."
00:54:07.01\00:54:10.64
The emphasis there is
not on the temptation.
00:54:10.67\00:54:13.09
The emphasis is on the
nature in which He was tempted.
00:54:13.12\00:54:16.32
You get my point, John.
00:54:16.35\00:54:17.56
The emphasis is not,
oh, was He tempted by drugs,
00:54:17.59\00:54:20.31
was He tempted by alcohol,
00:54:20.34\00:54:21.54
was He tempted
by stealing a car,
00:54:21.57\00:54:23.75
was He tempted
by internet theft?
00:54:23.78\00:54:25.97
No that's' not
the emphasis there,
00:54:26.00\00:54:27.33
the emphasis there is
tempted in the very nature
00:54:27.36\00:54:30.63
that we are
tempted in. That's right.
00:54:30.66\00:54:32.31
Because people say, "Well,
how could that be true that
00:54:32.34\00:54:34.32
there were not temptations
then that they are now?"
00:54:34.35\00:54:37.30
That's not the focal
point, the focal point,
00:54:37.33\00:54:39.38
He was tempted in
all points as we are.
00:54:39.41\00:54:42.64
Every point that
He was tempted in,
00:54:42.67\00:54:43.92
he had the same
nature that we have.
00:54:43.95\00:54:45.55
That's' the focal
point of the text.
00:54:45.58\00:54:47.34
So don't look at
the itemization of sin,
00:54:47.37\00:54:49.97
look at the nature in
which the sin comes to us.
00:54:50.00\00:54:53.61
So if a person
is tempted by hunger
00:54:53.64\00:54:56.25
as he was in the wilderness
or tempted for the kingdoms
00:54:56.28\00:54:58.88
and fame of the
world as many people are,
00:54:58.91\00:55:01.49
it's the same nature He
faced those temptations with,
00:55:01.52\00:55:04.93
that's what the
Bible is talking about.
00:55:04.96\00:55:06.98
Hebrews 2:14, "In as much
then as the children of God,
00:55:07.01\00:55:10.70
or children have
partaken of flesh and blood,
00:55:10.73\00:55:13.35
He Himself likewise
shared in the same."
00:55:13.38\00:55:17.67
Verse 17,
"Therefore, in all things
00:55:17.70\00:55:19.98
He had to be made
like His brethren,
00:55:20.01\00:55:23.56
that He might be a merciful
00:55:23.59\00:55:25.41
and faithful High Priest
in things pertaining to God,
00:55:25.44\00:55:27.78
to make propitiation
for the sins of the people
00:55:27.81\00:55:30.47
for in that He Himself
has suffered, being tempted,
00:55:30.50\00:55:32.74
He is able to aid
those who are tempted."
00:55:32.77\00:55:35.40
He overcame from where we are,
00:55:35.43\00:55:39.69
He came down to be a man
00:55:39.72\00:55:40.82
so that we can
overcome though now
00:55:40.85\00:55:43.39
His strength and
His power. That's right.
00:55:43.42\00:55:45.03
There's linking of God
reaching down to humanity
00:55:45.06\00:55:48.00
and now humanity by
faith reaching up to God
00:55:48.03\00:55:51.21
and there is the salvation.
00:55:51.24\00:55:52.92
If we didn't have
that then He would--
00:55:52.95\00:55:56.11
this whole thing about salvation
00:55:56.14\00:55:57.62
would be ethereal
or be unreachable,
00:55:57.65\00:56:00.28
will be in fact a facade.
00:56:00.31\00:56:02.14
Think about what Satan would--
00:56:02.17\00:56:04.55
how Satan will
have a problem if God,
00:56:04.58\00:56:06.43
if Jesus came as God.
00:56:06.46\00:56:08.96
If Jesus really
couldn't be tempted,
00:56:08.99\00:56:11.05
if He really
couldn't have failed,
00:56:11.08\00:56:13.42
why would Satan have
even tempted Him? Right.
00:56:13.45\00:56:15.98
Satan would have claimed foul.
00:56:16.01\00:56:17.80
You can't give them Your
life because I can't tempt You.
00:56:17.83\00:56:20.82
You are not susceptible
to me and You can't overcome.
00:56:20.85\00:56:23.14
There's no
overcoming, You're God.
00:56:23.17\00:56:25.15
He didn't say
that because Satan knew
00:56:25.18\00:56:27.45
that He would come like us
00:56:27.48\00:56:28.99
and if he can
get Christ to fail,
00:56:29.02\00:56:31.03
then the whole world
would be lost to His dominion.
00:56:31.06\00:56:34.14
So, powerful thing,
00:56:34.17\00:56:35.22
I just want to share
that, throw that out there
00:56:35.25\00:56:36.90
because there are
some that believe,
00:56:36.93\00:56:38.66
well, you know,
God can do anything
00:56:38.69\00:56:40.66
because He was God.
00:56:40.69\00:56:41.72
No, He did it
in-- from where we were
00:56:41.75\00:56:45.27
depending upon His
father for the strength
00:56:45.30\00:56:47.09
and now we can depend
upon His father as well
00:56:47.12\00:56:49.55
through the power
of the Holy Spirit.
00:56:49.58\00:56:50.65
Right, we follow,
friends, in essence,
00:56:50.68\00:56:53.24
we follow the pattern of Jesus
00:56:53.27\00:56:55.43
but not just the
pattern of Jesus,
00:56:55.46\00:56:58.27
we are now walking in His life
00:56:58.30\00:57:00.36
or walking in
the newness of life.
00:57:00.39\00:57:02.18
And, John, that newness of life
is the life that Jesus said,
00:57:02.21\00:57:06.25
He had completely regained
00:57:06.28\00:57:09.18
and captured
after the resurrection.
00:57:09.21\00:57:12.28
Now has come
salvation and strength.
00:57:12.31\00:57:15.05
And so friends, as we will
continue in our next program
00:57:15.08\00:57:17.73
the topic of
salvation, know this that,
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that great love that Christ has
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for every one of
us is available today
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and that salvation
is available today.
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Accept the Lord in your life
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and walk in His saving grace
as Christ is your righteousness.
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Have a great
day in Christ. Amen.
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