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Welcome to another
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exciting Bible
centered Christ centered program
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and I'm glad you're
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excited is because I'm
not there by myself, my
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good friend John
Stanton's with me.
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And it's good to be
here John and of course
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we're not excited just
because we're here either
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but God's spirit
is here with us too.
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of grace through prayer.
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Lets do that, dear
Father in heaven again we
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appeal to you that
you will send your Holy
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Spirit, Lord, that you
will open up our eyes and
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our ears to your voice
and may we have a fuller
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understanding of your
word and how it speaks
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to us. In Jesus name, Amen.
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John, what do you
have for us today in our
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Bible questions?
Well, I've got a question
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here from Devin
from Pennsylvania. Okay.
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And he says here, hi
John and John, I heard that
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the woman represents
the church and I want to
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know where in the
Bible it says this?
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Thank you. Okay.
There's a few places
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in the Bible we can go
to answer this question,
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the most often sided
answer to this question
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is Jeremiah 6 verse
2. Okay. So, we can read
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that one here
first, Jeremiah 6:2.
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That's in the book of
Jeremiah, that's the Old
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Testament by the way
so turn there with us.
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Okay, I've got it here
Jeremiah 6 verse 2, okay,
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it says I have likened
the daughter of Zion to a
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a lovely and
delicate woman. Okay. So, God
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views his people in
Zion as a lovely delicate
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woman, a woman.
Okay. Yeah, sometimes he
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speaks of it as the
remnant, as the daughter
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of Zion as well, we
find that through scriptures,
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but also I think the
other way to answer this
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question John is
that we see in the New
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Testament how Christ
is the bridegroom and he
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has a bride. So again
we find not only is she a
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woman but she is a
woman that God wants to
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marry. He wants them
to be as one. Jesus speaks
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of also in his, John
17, in his prayer. How he
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wants us to be one with
him as they are one that
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we would be one
with them, and that the
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oneness of
marriage as well. Right.
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There's all kinds of
things. It is the atonement,
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reconciliation, where
we come together as one.
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See so everything
points to not only God's
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people being a woman
but God's people being
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married to him and
coming together with him.
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You find also on the
scriptures that there is a
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passage in the book of
Ephesians 5 and verse 27
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and when the Lord
through inspiration speaks to
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Paul the Apostle he
does a comparison, he talks
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to the husband and
the wife. He says husbands
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love your wives also
as Christ love the church
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and gave himself for
it. See, husbands love your
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wives, as Christ the
husband man loves the
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church his bride and
here in Ephesians 5 verse
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27, it says it this
way, speaking of Christ that
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He, that is Christ,
might present her, that is his
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church, to
Himself a glorious church,
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not having spot or
wrinkle or any such thing,
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but that she should be
holy and without blemish.
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So husbands, so
husbands ought to love their
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own wives as their
own bodies; he who loves
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his wife loves
himself. And now listen to what,
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for no one ever
hated his own flesh, but
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nourishes and cherishes
it, just as the Lord does
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his church. And so
you clearly see the
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comparison, a woman,
glorious church he refers
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to her as a her not
having spot or wrinkle,
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husband and wife.
Yeah, in fact when we get,
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finally get down to
Revelation 21, we see
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that the holy city
is coming down, the New
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Jerusalem, as it says
prepares a bride adorned
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for her husband. And
as that New Jerusalem
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comes down the Saints
are in it. That's right.
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Okay so, it's not the
just the city but the city full
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of it's, of his people.
They finally been married
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to him and they will
live with him forever.
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So, all throughout the
Bible we find this that
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his people are a
woman he treats kindly and
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gently and brings them
along and takes care of
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them. And there they
end up being his bride.
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That's a very good
parallel you brought up
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because there are some
people that just say the
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New Jerusalem is his
bride, but a city without
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the people in it
is of really no value.
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That's right.
When the Holy City, New
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Jerusalem is descended
from heaven, the saints
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have been there for
a 1000 years already.
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The city descends and
then the saints descend
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to be in that city.
They are not in it when
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it descends but the
saints descend after the
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city and they enter
into the city and what makes
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the city glorious is
that they bring the glory of
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God into it, the glory
of Lord is in there, being
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reflected through
the spotless wrinkle free
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lives of his church.
Let me go to the next
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question we have
here, this is a lengthy one,
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I wanna go ahead and
read it, because its;
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it's a personative, they
just put the initials M.J,
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I don't know if that is
a Michael Jackson I don't
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know, but M.J,
Michael Jordan maybe.
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Michael Jordan
maybe. Okay, but here it is,
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Dear Pastor Lomacang,
I don't have a question
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for you at the moment,
but just a few comments
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on your telecast
and they give the date,
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I like the informal
format of your discussion
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of Bible topics
however. I couldn't help notice
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your analysis of the
prophecy in Matthew 24
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and Mark. That was
contrary to the way I
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see it, although your
opinion does agree with
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the view point
listed in the SDA Bible
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commentary, that's
Seventh-Day Adventist.
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SDA, Seventh-Day
Adventists have a habit
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of excluding
ethnic Israel or Jews from
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end-time prophecies.
They always say there is
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neither Jew nor gentile
we are all one in Christ.
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Let me just add a
little comment right there, we
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don't say that, the
Bible says that. That's right.
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You see one of the
things we want to point
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out from the very
outside is that any comments
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we make that includes
scripture, let me read
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the text that you are
referring to here, they say
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there is neither Jew
nor gentile, we are all one
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in Christ. Galatians 3
verse 28, this is the Bible
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saying and not
Seventh-day Adventist,
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we're just reading what
the Bible says. There is
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neither Jew nor
Greek, there is neither slave
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nor free, there is
neither male nor female; for
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you are all one in
Christ Jesus. And if you are
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Christ's, then you are
Abraham's seed and heirs
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according to the
promise. What the Bible is in
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essence saying that
if you're a woman or man
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you got to give the
same account. If you're Jew
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or Greek you got to
give the same account,
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if you are slave or
you are free you've got to
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give the same account
to Christ there is a level
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platform to everyone
who is saved and we'll
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bring this home in
just a few moments as to why
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we say what we do
about the facts at the broad
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stage, the stage has
been broadened in the issue
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of salvation rather
than narrowed to represent
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just a particular
nation. Any comment before I
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go on? Well, yeah, I
was gonna say you know it
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talks about there is
neither Jew nor Greek,
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the same, in that same
book we've got in chapter
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10, 11 excuse me of
Romans, Paul is talking
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about how the
branch was broken off, the
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branch of Israel was
broken off. But, by faith
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they can be grafted
back in. Right, so when
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we say there is
neither Jew nor Greek, nor male
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nor female when we
quote that from Paul what
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we're saying is that
and what he saying is that
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by faith we were all
one in Christ, that if you
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don't believe in Christ
that your race, that your
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gender, that your
age, that your and there is
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nothing that
commends you to him. Right,
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connects you with him
except faith and faith is
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the only thing that
will graft them back in.
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So, this person
immediately starting from
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a premise that we say
that the Jews aren't part
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of God's people today
as far as the ones that
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share the gospel and
it's interesting, we're
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talking about this at
the time that we're talking
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about the harvest and
the works in the harvest.
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That's true. But
anyway we're saying that
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because it's very
true, that God did have to
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break them off, but yet
he didn't cast them away,
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he wants to graft
them back in by faith and
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that's why Paul is
saying neither Jew nor Greek,
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nor male or female. And
a very interesting story
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if you follow the Bible
about this rejection that
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Jesus obviously made
it out to the Jews. He did
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meter it out to the
nation; he metered it out to
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the leaders. Right.
The leaders were the ones,
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the Pharisees, the
scribes, the Essenes, the
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Sadducees, these are
the ones that plotted to
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reject him and in
Matthew even at his
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resurrection the Jews,
the leaders of the Jews
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were the ones who
gathered the Roman
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soldiers together
and says tell us what
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happened. And they
said he rose, well he wasn't
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there and they paid
them a price. Bible says
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this, they paid them
a price and they said to
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them if you say, that
you saw Jesus resurrected
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if you say that he is
not there we'll secure you,
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we will come after
you. And the Bible says this
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saying is commonly
reported among the Jews
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even to this day. So,
many of them believe that
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the resurrection was a
hoax, that somebody stole
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the body of Jesus
away, hid him somewhere else
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to perpetuate this lie
they believe that Jesus
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rose and now is in
heaven. He said tell them his
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disciples came and
stole him by night. Well,
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that's not true,
because the Romans secured the
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tomb with a centurion,
a 100 soldiers guard that
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tomb during the night
and those 100 soldiers
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were only immobilized
by the descend of the
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angel. When the angel
rolled away the stone,
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the brightest of the
angels will cause them to
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fall back like dead
man. It was not the disciples
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that came and beat
them up during the night and
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to prove that the
disciples were hiding for
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fear of the Jews.
Yeah. See so this is all a
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premise of no foundation.
And Paul is not saying
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that Jews aren't
saved either. No, but
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individually they
must be saved as they're
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grafted back in as a
people chosen by God to
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finish the work
that is now the church.
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Right, no preeminence,
he's saying. He says
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anybody who comes
through these gates will
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come through Jesus'
blood. That's right. And
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that's why he says by
faith and I'm glad you
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brought that up
because by faith means by faith
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in Jesus Christ,
Jesus made the statement in
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John 14 verse 1 to 3,
he says you believe in
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God, believe also in
me. They believed in God
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but they did not
believe in Jesus they rejected
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the Messiah, the
Messiah. They didn't accept
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him and then John the
Baptist said, behold the
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lamb of God, they
rejected the lamb of God.
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So, how can you by
national birth say that I
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have preeminence
no matter what? Right.
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That I have a right
no matter what? No, you
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don't, that's where
the neither Jew nor Greek,
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neither slave nor
free, neither bond nor female
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neither male, you
know the whole thing
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together. It's all
through Christ Jesus. Let me
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read continually
because I think this is a very
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interesting letter I
think somebody else who
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maybe thinking along
these lines could be,
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it could be cleared up
as we address this fully
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John. Adventists have
the habit of saying that
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there is neither Jew
nor gentile we are all one
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in Christ, but that's
the scripture. In other words
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modern Israel is no
longer relevant in end
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time prophecies,
since the Jews were rejected
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by Jesus. There is now
only one Israel and that
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is spiritual Israel, you
got it, that's the point.
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Spiritual, those who
are born again, that's why
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Jesus came to
Nicodemus in John chapter 4, and
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in John chapter 3 and
he says you must be born
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again. Nicodemus, a
Jewish ruler, Nicodemus
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a very wealthy man
once gain of the lineage,
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thought that the
lineage gave him preeminence
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when Jesus says
you must be born again.
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And he went into
that dialogue do I go back
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into mother's womb
and come back out, he said
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no, you must be born
of the water and of the
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spirit. Once again
showing that his natural
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birth wasn't good
enough but John let's dissect
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this. Go to Romans 9
verse 6 and read that for
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me. Go to Romans 9
and verse 6 and read that
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for me. We're gonna
talk about spiritual
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Israel and this is a
very important point and you
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may not know that the
sons of Jacob, Jacob's
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name was changed from
Jacob to Israel at a very
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pivotal movement when
he wrestled with Christ,
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when he rested with
the angel and he prevailed
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and the word there
prevail means he overcame
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and his name was
changed from Jacob to
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Israel. So, when the
Bible says the children of
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Israel it simply
means the children of Jacob.
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Out of this seed a
promised nation came with
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a mission, but read
what the Bible says about
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this nation in
Romans 9 and verse 6.
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But it is not that the
word of God has taken no
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effect. For they are not
all Israel who are Israel.
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Okay, who are of
Israel. Yeah, who are of
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Israel, yes, nor are
they all children because they
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are the seed of
Abraham; and in another words
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lineage. Right. But,
"In Isaac shall or your seed
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shall be called."
That is those who are the
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children of the
flesh, these are not the
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children of God; but
the children of the promise
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are counted as the
seed. And that's why it's by
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faith. Okay, so it by
flesh? No. Read that text
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again which says the
children of flesh, not the
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children of flesh,
I think verse 8 or so.
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Yeah, that is those
who are the children of the
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flesh, these are not
the children of God; but the
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children of the promise
are counted as the seed.
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Okay, so here what is
being said by Paul the
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Apostle, he is
saying that's why we must be
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born of the water and
of the spirit because we
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were first born of
the flesh and that's what
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Jesus means when he
says flesh and blood,
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the natural birth does
not give us preeminence
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nor give us right. So
the question would be what
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position does the Jews
have in reference to the
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standing with God
and their prominence with
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God. We're gonna go
through, I want to read a
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little bit more
because I know you may be
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listening and say, well
that's not all I said and
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I wanna honor that.
In Matthew 24:32, Jesus
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specifically
mentions the fig tree, you'll
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notice an old
testament scripture that the fig
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tree always refers to
the physical nation of
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Israel. One problem I
have with SDA is, of with
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the SDA view is that
it doesn't substantiate
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other Biblical text
that mention the Jewish
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nation, for example in
Romans 11. Paul negates
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the impression that
Jews have been permanently
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rejected and you just
read that. God had not
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cast away His
people? Which he foreknew.
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No, he hasn't. And I
said it wasn't the people it
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was the nation.
But, I like what you said
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because how are
they being accepted now.
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They're being grafted
back in by faith in Jesus.
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Okay by what
again? Faith in Jesus.
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Okay, not by national
origin but by faith in
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Jesus. For we are all
saved by grace through
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faith. It's not a national
thing, it's not a racial
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thing, it's not an ethnic
thing, it's not an origin.
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Even as the leaders
and the nation, this day
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they're not believers in
Jesus. They have no faith
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or trust in Jesus. You
cannot say they're God's
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children. Right, I
don't understand how you,
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how that can be
missed though, that simple
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statement, they
cannot be God's children by
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definition that they
are not believers or had,
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don't put their faith in Jesus.
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And that seems pretty
simple John, but I think
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that. It doesn't mean
God has rejected them?
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It doesn't mean that
God says you can't be
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saved. That's
right, that's right, that's
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right. Yeah, it
doesn't mean that God says you
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can't be saved because
salvation is for everyone,
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but you got to, will
walk though a couple of
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scriptures here
because I think we're gonna
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spend some time on
this one, it does require
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some approach. Here is
another I'm going to go
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further, it says that
even Ellen White and this
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person's letter says,
even Ellen White states
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the Jews are to play
an important part in the
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later day events, not a
problem, but they're not
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the ones to be the
only ones to play a part in
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the later day events.
And you'll discover today
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that around the world
there is a significant
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event and a lot of
people up to 1948 and when
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Jews returned to their
land and this great battle
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in the middle east
over the temple mount.
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Some people look at
that as a great significance,
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is it gonna be the
Palestinians or the
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Israelites, who is
gonna get preeminence in that
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spot. They're fighting
for the temple dome or for
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the, the word
escapes me of the phrase, the
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dome of the rock.
They want that spot because
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they believe it's
very, very holy, and then you
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have this long
standing thousands of years of
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holy war between one
son of Abraham and the
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other son of Abraham
because they both believe
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in the preeminence
here. But, now let me finish
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it up. The facts are
that Jesus cursed the fig tree
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and it is not to bear
any fruit again, spiritual
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fruit that is, well
you made the point. But, he
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didn't say the fig
tree, he didn't say the tree
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would never grow
again, which it has.
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According to Paul,
blindness in part has
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happened to Israel
until the fullness of the
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Gentiles be come in.
Now I like, I like that
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text. You know what
he is saying here, John,
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is that when the
Jews see the power of the
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gospel among the
gentiles, their eyes will
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be opened. That's what
it's saying. It's not saying
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all of a sudden
they're gonna become relevant
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again, it says when the
gentiles see the power of
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the gospel, when the
Jews see the power of the
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gospel among the
gentiles then their eyes will be
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opened. Go to Acts
chapter 13 and I want you
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to read verse 42 to 46.
And you begin to see that
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that's something
that was emphasized in
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scripture on the day
when Paul and Barnabas
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were preaching in
the city of Antioch.
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Matter of fact, lets
start with not 42, lets start
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with verse 46, well
verse 44 and yeah, verse 44
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to 50, go through that
John and follow us very
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carefully, Acts chapter
13 verse 44 to verse 50.
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On the next Sabbath,
almost the whole city
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came together to
hear the word of God.
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But when the Jews
saw the multitudes,
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they were filled with
envy; and contradicting
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and blaspheming,
they opposed the things
00:20:03.61\00:20:05.40
spoken by Paul. Then
Paul and Barnabas grew
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bold and said, "It was
necessary that the word
00:20:09.27\00:20:11.74
of God should be
spoken to you first; but since
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you reject it, and
judge yourselves unworthy of
00:20:14.86\00:20:17.40
everlasting life,
behold we turn to the Gentiles.
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Okay notice before you
go any further. He said
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it was God's plan that
the; that you receive the
00:20:22.86\00:20:24.99
message first. But,
since you reject it, you see,
00:20:25.17\00:20:32.09
now I want you to get
this because it's not God
00:20:32.69\00:20:35.18
rejecting them, it's
them rejecting the message.
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And I wonder if the
writer here also believes
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the teaching of dual
covenant, because that is
00:20:43.05\00:20:46.55
errant teaching as
well that's out there today,
00:20:47.26\00:20:48.93
which says well that
it's a covenant, that's
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running simultaneously
with the Jews as a
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nation and with the
Gentiles. But what we
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find here is a shift in
the focus of the covenant,
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it's one
everlasting covenant. Right.
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But there would
have been I've made the
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statement several
times before, they would have
00:21:02.01\00:21:03.25
been no church had
the children of Israel,
00:21:03.33\00:21:06.84
had the nation of Israel
fulfilled their calling to
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spread and to be
alight to all the Gentiles.
00:21:09.54\00:21:11.56
Gentiles would have
come into that faith in
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Christ through their
efforts, but because they
00:21:14.73\00:21:17.04
rejected it there the
church was born and the
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Gentiles now have the
gospel to share with the
00:21:19.91\00:21:21.80
world. Right, read
the rest of it. Verse 47,
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for so the Lord has
commanded us: 'I have set
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you as a light to the
Gentiles, that you should
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be for salvation to
the ends of the earth.' Now
00:21:30.41\00:21:33.43
when the Gentiles heard
this, they were glad and
00:21:33.47\00:21:35.35
glorified the word of
the Lord. And as many as
00:21:35.63\00:21:38.26
had been appointed to
eternal life believed.
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And the word of the
Lord was being spread
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throughout all that
region. And verse 40, verse
00:21:43.01\00:21:46.39
50, last one. But
the Jews stirred up the
00:21:46.54\00:21:49.17
devout and prominent
women and the chief men
00:21:49.35\00:21:51.82
of the city, raised up
persecution against Paul
00:21:51.92\00:21:54.76
and Barnabas, and
expelled them from their
00:21:54.79\00:21:57.04
region. Okay, you see
clearly once again even
00:21:57.21\00:22:00.03
as the gospel began
to impact the life of
00:22:00.13\00:22:02.06
Gentiles, the Jews
said we're not gonna have
00:22:02.51\00:22:04.90
this. Now, if you go to
verse 42 to 43 you'll see
00:22:05.00\00:22:10.26
that when Paul and
Barnabas preached and
00:22:10.37\00:22:12.28
the Greeks and
the Gentiles were not
00:22:12.37\00:22:14.17
included they
were happy Oh! What a
00:22:14.77\00:22:16.96
wonderful message,
they commended them,
00:22:17.01\00:22:18.71
they said this is a
beautiful sermon but the
00:22:18.89\00:22:20.87
next Sabbath and
almost the entire city
00:22:21.11\00:22:22.82
came together
including Gentiles, including
00:22:22.87\00:22:26.22
non-Jews that's when
they got upset. And so
00:22:26.63\00:22:29.56
now I want you to
catch the picture, they felt
00:22:29.73\00:22:31.57
that they were
exclusive, but they were not
00:22:31.75\00:22:34.23
exclusive because it
was intended by God that
00:22:34.26\00:22:37.49
the gospel be given to
them but then they carry
00:22:37.52\00:22:41.47
that gospel to the world
like the post office they
00:22:41.57\00:22:43.57
get the mail, but
they carry it to the
00:22:43.73\00:22:45.73
neighborhood. And
you know what John if you
00:22:45.82\00:22:47.23
had a poster worker
that refused to carry the
00:22:47.26\00:22:48.78
mail to the
neighborhood, that poster worker
00:22:48.96\00:22:50.69
will get fired the mail
is still the same, the job is
00:22:50.72\00:22:53.31
still the same. If a
person has a will, a last
00:22:53.35\00:22:55.87
will in testament and
they have two children
00:22:55.94\00:22:57.53
and they have their
names both in the will,
00:22:58.00\00:22:59.79
but before the person
dies one of the children
00:23:00.29\00:23:02.16
denounced the father
and reject the family,
00:23:02.62\00:23:04.89
the father says
there is no way I'm leaving
00:23:05.05\00:23:06.66
anything to you. And
so he takes that person's
00:23:06.69\00:23:09.14
name out of the will,
but the will still stands.
00:23:09.18\00:23:11.14
He still has a will and
the one that is remaining
00:23:11.63\00:23:13.67
is the one that gets all
the benefit. So, God still
00:23:13.84\00:23:16.32
has a work to be done,
but those who reject the
00:23:16.46\00:23:18.45
work that God has
called them to do is what this
00:23:18.62\00:23:20.46
issue is all about. It's
not about taking the names
00:23:20.56\00:23:23.21
off of the 12 gates
and I think that the person
00:23:23.24\00:23:24.96
got so excited
they even want so far as
00:23:24.99\00:23:26.73
saying that we believe
that the names are gonna
00:23:26.98\00:23:30.30
be taken off the 12
gates and put the names of
00:23:30.39\00:23:32.58
the 12 leaders of
seventh-day Adventist
00:23:32.63\00:23:34.25
church on the 12 gates
of the heaven. I mean I
00:23:34.38\00:23:36.69
think they got a
little carried away there.
00:23:36.78\00:23:38.21
I know you may have
been a little bit upset
00:23:38.62\00:23:40.68
but that's, we know
that's not true and I
00:23:41.23\00:23:42.60
think that's a
cynical statement, that's not
00:23:42.78\00:23:44.48
really warranted in
this understanding or
00:23:44.85\00:23:46.70
misunderstanding.
Now the bottom line is,
00:23:46.80\00:23:49.22
I'll read a few scriptures
and then we'll go ahead
00:23:50.29\00:23:51.59
and wind this up and go
to our topic for the day
00:23:51.65\00:23:53.66
but listen carefully.
Romans 10 verse 12 to 13
00:23:54.31\00:23:57.46
For there is no distinction,
and John by the way,
00:23:58.46\00:24:00.75
I would go to Romans
1 verse 16, I'm gonna go
00:24:01.57\00:24:03.34
to Romans 10 verse 12
to 13, you go to Romans
00:24:03.37\00:24:05.72
1 verse 16. Romans
10 verse 12 and 13,
00:24:05.91\00:24:10.12
for there is no
distinction between Jew and
00:24:10.69\00:24:13.74
Greek, for the same
Lord over all is rich to all
00:24:13.97\00:24:18.25
who call upon Him.
For whoever calls on the
00:24:19.02\00:24:22.60
name of the Lord
shall be saved. See what it
00:24:22.71\00:24:25.90
says, there is no
distinction between the
00:24:26.07\00:24:27.32
Jew and the Greek,
this is New Testament
00:24:27.44\00:24:29.85
theology. Now,
Romans 1 verse 16.
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For I am not ashamed
of the gospel of Christ,
00:24:34.02\00:24:35.99
for it is the power
of God to salvation for
00:24:36.25\00:24:38.73
everyone who
believes, for the Jew first and
00:24:38.98\00:24:41.33
also for the Greek.
Exactly, so why does it
00:24:41.50\00:24:43.80
say for the Jew first
because when you look at
00:24:43.90\00:24:46.16
the Old Testament
the Lord gave them the
00:24:46.19\00:24:48.35
oracles of truth, but
what happen by the time
00:24:48.68\00:24:51.02
that John the Baptist
introduced Jesus, he said
00:24:51.43\00:24:54.19
there is a lamb of God
that takes away the sin
00:24:54.45\00:24:56.27
of the world and from
that day forth the lamb
00:24:56.38\00:24:58.33
was rejected. And
then when the gospel was
00:24:58.63\00:25:00.74
going forth in Acts
chapter 1, when Jesus
00:25:00.96\00:25:04.12
ascended just before
he ascended he said to the
00:25:04.34\00:25:06.27
disciples now the
apostles, he says go first
00:25:06.79\00:25:09.27
to the lost sheep of
the house of Israel. Go to
00:25:10.19\00:25:14.75
the lost sheep of
the house of Israel.
00:25:14.84\00:25:17.09
Give them one more opportunity.
00:25:17.12\00:25:18.09
Give another
opportunity and then when they
00:25:18.28\00:25:19.84
rejected Jesus before
he ascended, before he
00:25:19.96\00:25:21.85
went to the cross he
says behold your house is
00:25:21.88\00:25:24.80
left unto you
desolate. So, he showed
00:25:24.85\00:25:27.58
continually the
reason why he chose another
00:25:27.78\00:25:31.16
people to carry the
gospel is because those
00:25:31.24\00:25:32.93
he had initially
chosen, had chosen not to carry
00:25:32.96\00:25:36.60
it. Can they be saved
today? Any nationality
00:25:36.63\00:25:39.39
can be saved today.
Is there a special work
00:25:39.52\00:25:41.51
to be done for the
Jews in the last days, yes?
00:25:41.67\00:25:44.28
And when those who are
natural Jews accept the
00:25:45.02\00:25:49.77
gospel of Jesus
Christ then they will have a
00:25:50.15\00:25:52.30
great part to play in
evangelizing other Jews
00:25:52.57\00:25:56.12
to come and accept
the Christ that has been
00:25:56.32\00:25:58.46
accessible all
throughout their existence,
00:25:58.62\00:26:01.14
anything else
John you have for me?
00:26:01.87\00:26:02.93
I think that's
good, it's covered well.
00:26:03.09\00:26:04.46
Okay, anything else
you have as far as another
00:26:05.03\00:26:06.34
question. No, we're,
we're good, we're at 30
00:26:06.67\00:26:08.35
minutes and I think
we ought to go right into
00:26:08.53\00:26:10.20
topic. Okay well
friends. About the harvest.
00:26:10.49\00:26:12.50
So, if you have any
questions, I know we
00:26:13.65\00:26:14.92
talked about a lengthy
topic here about Jews and
00:26:14.99\00:26:16.90
Gentiles, Greeks and all
the like, carrier or send
00:26:17.03\00:26:20.06
your questions to
housecalls@3abn.org don't
00:26:20.19\00:26:23.15
carry them that will
a long way. Once again
00:26:23.41\00:26:25.87
housecalls@3abn.org
if you want to send those
00:26:26.12\00:26:28.86
and snail mail once
again PO Box 220, West
00:26:28.95\00:26:32.58
Frankfurt, Illinois-62896.
We've been enjoying
00:26:32.74\00:26:38.04
this topic about the
harvest John. And I think
00:26:38.13\00:26:40.45
we're gonna continue
on that so I'll go and let
00:26:40.57\00:26:42.10
you segue into the
topic. Well, we covered the
00:26:42.45\00:26:44.64
first part of the harvest
here last time by talking
00:26:44.91\00:26:47.28
about it in the context
of getting ready for the
00:26:47.42\00:26:50.06
second coming for Jesus
to return, right, and we
00:26:50.26\00:26:52.47
saw that when he
returns the harvest is ready,
00:26:52.62\00:26:54.83
it's being gathered,
it had ripened and then he
00:26:54.88\00:26:57.85
takes that harvest
back with him to heaven for
00:26:58.09\00:27:01.51
the 1000 years. Well,
the wicked who are left,
00:27:01.64\00:27:05.21
who are burned at his
second coming which are
00:27:05.31\00:27:07.90
the tares, the chaff,
they are there gathered
00:27:08.04\00:27:11.96
together or bundled
to burn at a later date
00:27:12.13\00:27:14.83
after the 1000 years.
And we see the lake of
00:27:15.01\00:27:17.46
fire comes down out of
heaven at that point in
00:27:17.55\00:27:19.53
Revelation chapter 20.
So, that's the secrets of
00:27:19.69\00:27:22.05
events, in fact we've
even asked them to pull
00:27:22.48\00:27:23.60
out a piece of paper
and continue to draw on this
00:27:23.66\00:27:25.58
time line because they
are some things that are
00:27:25.76\00:27:27.77
being taught today that
do not fit in well at all
00:27:27.87\00:27:31.36
with what the Bible
says about the harvest
00:27:31.94\00:27:33.76
getting it ready in
for Jesus second coming.
00:27:34.10\00:27:35.62
That's right. I think
one of the things we talked
00:27:35.94\00:27:37.66
about off camera,
off program last time was
00:27:37.86\00:27:42.45
that this rapture theory
is teaching that there is
00:27:43.80\00:27:46.82
a snatching out or
early picking of the harvest
00:27:48.10\00:27:50.81
and that the harvest
is left there so that when
00:27:52.14\00:27:54.71
Jesus returns he can
get the rest of it. Right.
00:27:54.85\00:27:57.37
But I've never know
a harvest to be picked
00:27:58.61\00:28:02.46
until it's ripe, that's
right, and so the rapture
00:28:02.72\00:28:06.66
theory even runs
against that, there is no
00:28:06.78\00:28:08.54
picking, God doesn't
pick his harvest before it's
00:28:08.82\00:28:10.53
ripe and the harvest
is all picked together,
00:28:10.74\00:28:12.48
you've got these big
combines that go out you
00:28:12.67\00:28:15.22
know and they have
their time when that harvest
00:28:15.25\00:28:17.33
is ripe they go out
and they pick it all, okay.
00:28:17.53\00:28:20.50
And the owner of it.
No, and I just want to bring
00:28:21.00\00:28:23.82
up one verse here
just to talk about that
00:28:23.93\00:28:25.37
because Jeremiah 20
says, The harvest is
00:28:25.55\00:28:27.99
past, The summer is
ended, And we are not
00:28:28.25\00:28:30.15
saved! Right, so once
it's harvested everyone
00:28:30.42\00:28:32.95
else is lost. There
is not second chance.
00:28:33.11\00:28:35.29
Is that clear or what?
When the harvest is past
00:28:35.73\00:28:40.60
and the summer has
ended the only other
00:28:41.02\00:28:43.32
result is you are not
saved. There is no second
00:28:43.43\00:28:46.63
chance theology in that
at all. You are the chaff,
00:28:46.88\00:28:48.63
you're the tares,
you're remaining to be to have
00:28:48.85\00:28:50.93
one thing happen and
that is to be burned by the
00:28:51.10\00:28:52.83
lake of fire. None of
us want to be there by the
00:28:53.01\00:28:55.36
way and so God is
telling us and we are learning
00:28:55.55\00:28:58.06
through this study that
the time to get ready is
00:28:58.27\00:29:00.80
as the rest of the
harvest gets ready.
00:29:01.15\00:29:02.43
Now some I could hear
this echo already John,
00:29:03.57\00:29:06.24
you ready, good. Well
these is a first fruit
00:29:06.44\00:29:10.54
that is selected
first, but it's still in the
00:29:10.79\00:29:13.70
context of the harvest,
always, you don't pick a
00:29:13.86\00:29:15.86
first fruit before it's
ripe. The first fruit is
00:29:16.07\00:29:19.35
picked, so those can
be the final laborers to
00:29:19.46\00:29:23.13
finish picking the
rest of the harvest or reap,
00:29:23.41\00:29:25.52
helping in the reaping
work of the rest of the
00:29:25.73\00:29:27.10
harvest. Right.
That's know as the 144,000,
00:29:27.28\00:29:29.70
the first fruits to
God, right, so we'll look at
00:29:29.93\00:29:31.70
that in the context of
the time line here, but I
00:29:31.78\00:29:34.64
think to just set the
stage here just notice
00:29:34.67\00:29:36.59
this how the rapture
theory flies in the face,
00:29:36.86\00:29:40.01
it opposes, it is
against the teaching, clear
00:29:40.11\00:29:43.45
teaching of the
harvest that is ready, that is
00:29:43.71\00:29:46.73
ripened and ready to
go for Jesus return as he
00:29:46.93\00:29:51.32
reaps with not only his
early, the early harvest,
00:29:51.62\00:29:55.22
the first fruits but
he reaps by sending his
00:29:55.58\00:29:57.68
angels out to gather
that harvest and it all comes
00:29:57.90\00:30:00.45
in at the same
time. And you know John,
00:30:00.52\00:30:02.50
that is so
wonderfully put together because
00:30:02.67\00:30:04.02
friends you know, a
lot of people that are just
00:30:04.37\00:30:05.67
existing in Christianity
today believing that the
00:30:06.89\00:30:10.26
rapture could happen
at any movement, I mean
00:30:10.72\00:30:13.40
like they could be
driving down the freeway
00:30:13.66\00:30:16.18
and or in a plane or
in an airport or at the
00:30:16.38\00:30:18.93
alter getting married
or whatever and then all of
00:30:19.07\00:30:22.64
a sudden they just
disappear and they say
00:30:22.67\00:30:25.41
huh, we were just
gathered away, gather,
00:30:25.63\00:30:28.86
we were just snatched
away, so they conclude
00:30:29.26\00:30:32.39
that this is the
first fruits were taken.
00:30:32.70\00:30:34.76
And the whole church
they say was taken the
00:30:35.17\00:30:36.57
whole church.
Yeah, the whole Christian
00:30:36.73\00:30:37.96
church, not just a few
people but all those that
00:30:37.99\00:30:40.67
are ready will be
taken away at the time,
00:30:40.70\00:30:42.30
snatched out of the
world and the text that's
00:30:42.52\00:30:45.96
often referred to
in reference to that is
00:30:46.09\00:30:47.62
Revelation chapter
4 and that's why many
00:30:47.95\00:30:49.79
denominations don't
teach past Revelation 4
00:30:50.06\00:30:52.77
because they say, they
say relevant the church
00:30:52.99\00:30:54.90
is not here and then
they say that Revelation 7
00:30:55.00\00:30:57.66
talks about the Jews
evangelizing the world,
00:30:58.18\00:31:00.95
that's the view of
this dispensationalism idea.
00:31:01.47\00:31:04.35
That's why people
had a hard time with this
00:31:05.02\00:31:06.32
context about
whether or not Israel has
00:31:06.69\00:31:08.19
relevance in the last
days. Right, they believe
00:31:08.47\00:31:10.21
that Revelation 7 when
it refers to Israel and
00:31:10.26\00:31:13.14
describes the tribes,
they refer to the literal
00:31:13.89\00:31:16.03
nation. Right, but
we will find that the
00:31:16.22\00:31:17.89
multitudes are involved
in this harvest which are
00:31:18.02\00:31:19.96
also in
Revelation 7. That's right.
00:31:20.04\00:31:21.86
And not only that,
the great harvest in
00:31:22.22\00:31:23.84
Revelation is chapter
14, after chapter 4. So, the
00:31:24.00\00:31:30.42
rapture theory is
completely at odds with
00:31:30.66\00:31:33.34
scripture, that's right,
so the question is do you
00:31:33.47\00:31:35.55
want to accept a
rapture theory that doesn't fit
00:31:35.74\00:31:38.18
or you wanna accept
what the scripture says
00:31:39.11\00:31:40.74
about the harvest
being ripe and getting ready
00:31:41.17\00:31:42.75
for Jesus return. I
need it to be very straight
00:31:42.92\00:31:44.79
here John, because I
know we're kind, we are
00:31:44.91\00:31:47.15
very kind guys, you
could even see it all over
00:31:47.38\00:31:48.87
our face. We smile.
We try to be kind, but we
00:31:49.14\00:31:52.35
have to be pointed at
times. Books like The Late
00:31:52.41\00:31:55.37
Great Planet
Earth, this new generation
00:31:55.63\00:31:57.64
probably doesn't know
that book, written by Hal
00:31:58.11\00:32:00.02
Lindsey many, many
years ago The Late Great
00:32:00.35\00:32:02.45
Planet Earth, had
espoused a theory that
00:32:02.78\00:32:06.52
was put together by
Scofield, Cyrus I. Scofield,
00:32:06.55\00:32:10.32
the Scofield
translation of the Bible, the
00:32:10.80\00:32:12.34
Scofield study notes.
If you have Scofield study
00:32:12.53\00:32:15.14
notes in your Bible
avoid it. Dispensation.
00:32:15.23\00:32:17.82
Avoid it, it's a dispensation,
00:32:18.10\00:32:19.38
dispensational
theology that came from John
00:32:20.06\00:32:22.84
and Darby, that came
from Francisco Ribera in
00:32:22.94\00:32:28.01
the 1600. Which
connected with that also just as
00:32:28.21\00:32:30.21
a quick note is law and
grace, right, that there is
00:32:30.24\00:32:32.82
no law in the
New Treatment at all,
00:32:32.85\00:32:34.50
when Jesus as he
teaches he says if you love me
00:32:34.59\00:32:37.33
keep my
commandments, right, so I mean,
00:32:37.44\00:32:38.67
even on the surface
you see that there is
00:32:39.02\00:32:40.48
problems with that
dispensation theory.
00:32:40.82\00:32:42.23
Yeah, this dispensation
theology, what it does,
00:32:42.44\00:32:44.35
it brings you now to
the modern day where we
00:32:44.50\00:32:46.20
have these millions
and millions and millions
00:32:46.32\00:32:48.98
and millions of
books written by Tim LaHaye
00:32:49.01\00:32:50.93
and Jerry Jenkins
starting out with the
00:32:50.99\00:32:52.90
you know tribulation
for us, left behind you
00:32:53.24\00:32:56.08
know the
gathering, one is called the
00:32:56.11\00:32:59.64
gathering, that's right.
These are books that were
00:32:59.87\00:33:04.15
greatly circulated, sold
by the millions but it's a
00:33:04.45\00:33:09.48
huge lie. I can't say
it any other way. I don't
00:33:09.94\00:33:12.73
want anybody watching
this program to say will
00:33:12.76\00:33:14.28
they weren't really
clear about whether or not
00:33:14.52\00:33:16.06
where they stood, it's
not the truth, it's not
00:33:16.09\00:33:19.00
truth. And we are
not saying that you're
00:33:19.42\00:33:21.20
intentionally lying,
because I believe that
00:33:21.47\00:33:23.03
they believe the
dispensation theory,
00:33:23.23\00:33:24.95
what I'm saying is,
right, and what I think what
00:33:25.50\00:33:27.36
we're both saying here
is that the Bible doesn't
00:33:27.39\00:33:29.35
agree with what
those books are espousing.
00:33:29.62\00:33:32.55
Right, and on the back
of the books if you turn
00:33:32.91\00:33:34.41
them around and just
at the bottom print right
00:33:34.49\00:33:36.79
above the barcode
you will see a very word,
00:33:36.95\00:33:39.20
a very important word
that will save you time
00:33:39.30\00:33:41.25
from reading the
book. The word is fiction,
00:33:41.42\00:33:43.38
turn it around, look at
the barcode, right above
00:33:44.30\00:33:45.66
the barcode you see
a tiny little about,
00:33:45.71\00:33:47.58
tiny little four point
word that is in text size,
00:33:48.09\00:33:52.27
FICTION, when you
got to the Christian book
00:33:55.47\00:33:56.98
stores, go to the
section that those are sold and
00:33:57.21\00:33:59.89
you see above
the section fiction.
00:34:00.13\00:34:01.83
That means it's not
true, so please don't make
00:34:02.44\00:34:04.86
that which is not
true, take that which is not
00:34:05.07\00:34:07.23
true and try to fit
into the story of the
00:34:07.52\00:34:08.88
scriptures because
you'll discover that you got to
00:34:08.91\00:34:10.72
give up one, why waste
money for that which is
00:34:10.77\00:34:13.42
not bread Jesus said.
Get the bread, this is the
00:34:13.58\00:34:16.85
bread, that will give
you thoughts, this will give
00:34:17.17\00:34:19.56
you nourishment,
that will give you sloth
00:34:19.68\00:34:21.93
and chaff, this will
give you wheat. Right, and
00:34:22.03\00:34:24.52
so that's what you
want but now keep going
00:34:24.55\00:34:26.48
John. Because we just
talked about, we segued
00:34:26.64\00:34:28.90
to the harvest is
past, the summer is ended,
00:34:29.06\00:34:30.60
and when then the
harvest is past and the
00:34:30.94\00:34:32.29
summer is ended
there is no second chance,
00:34:32.41\00:34:34.78
there is nobody else
waiting and around for
00:34:35.26\00:34:36.45
another harvest. When
the combines go though,
00:34:36.60\00:34:38.82
I like the way you
said that, when the combines
00:34:38.89\00:34:41.67
go through and collect
all the corn and all the
00:34:41.74\00:34:43.21
grapes, the next
thing that's gonna happen is
00:34:43.40\00:34:46.10
the field is gonna
be purified by fire.
00:34:46.62\00:34:48.68
Now, you're from
California right John?
00:34:49.54\00:34:51.17
Yes, I'm. Have you
ever seen those fires that
00:34:51.69\00:34:53.34
bellows the smoke
going up in the distance
00:34:54.09\00:34:55.57
outside of Sacramento.
Sure. What is in that
00:34:55.67\00:34:58.21
that, what are they
doing. Well, they're
00:34:58.57\00:35:01.22
burning, either
they're burning the tares, the
00:35:01.49\00:35:06.68
chaffs, the weed and
things, so they would be
00:35:06.83\00:35:08.45
no fires set, that
are doing damage. We are
00:35:08.58\00:35:11.77
seeing a lot of fires
actually in California right
00:35:11.80\00:35:13.51
now because they don't
do that and keep up with
00:35:13.60\00:35:16.17
that probably as much
as they should but, yeah
00:35:16.24\00:35:18.78
its clear indication
that that's what they are
00:35:19.01\00:35:20.54
doing. And what
happens is when they gather
00:35:20.70\00:35:23.36
all of the harvest,
whatever is left the
00:35:23.56\00:35:25.80
farmers intentionally
burn the field, they start
00:35:25.87\00:35:28.22
a fire so that fire
burns in a particular direction
00:35:28.34\00:35:31.24
and everything that
is there, what it does it
00:35:31.65\00:35:34.38
inadvertently but
directly prepares the ground
00:35:34.41\00:35:38.20
for nourishment.
Because all that burns up,
00:35:38.32\00:35:41.36
it takes, it gets rid
of everything that's weeds
00:35:42.19\00:35:45.58
and tares and chaff
and leaves that beautiful
00:35:45.62\00:35:48.70
black topsoil and
prepares now for the
00:35:48.92\00:35:51.60
resting of the, resting
of the ground during the
00:35:51.77\00:35:54.77
cold part of the year,
but go to the next stage.
00:35:54.83\00:35:58.93
I'm looking at John
chapter 4 here 'cause
00:35:59.00\00:36:01.36
we're talking about
you know the workers in
00:36:01.39\00:36:05.00
God's field. Okay,
let's look at the John 4.
00:36:05.22\00:36:07.13
And morning as it gets
ripe what goes on there.
00:36:07.16\00:36:09.50
And John chapter 4
gives us some indication
00:36:09.53\00:36:12.65
here as the fields
become ripe, what is going on
00:36:12.87\00:36:15.95
in those fields.
John, maybe you wanna read
00:36:16.13\00:36:18.59
that one John 4:34.
Staring with verse 34
00:36:18.73\00:36:21.44
and listen to this,
because we are in fact called
00:36:21.87\00:36:25.27
the workers in the
field as you know, you go to
00:36:25.49\00:36:27.35
the central valleys
in California any place
00:36:27.42\00:36:29.28
where there's farms,
you have people that are
00:36:29.45\00:36:31.50
working there. Jesus
said to them, "My food is
00:36:31.77\00:36:38.01
to do the will of Him
who sent Me, and to finish
00:36:38.15\00:36:41.33
His work. Do you not
say, they are still four
00:36:41.38\00:36:44.98
months and then
comes the harvest? Behold,
00:36:45.25\00:36:47.77
I say to you, lift up
your eyes and look at the
00:36:47.96\00:36:50.56
fields, for they
are already white for
00:36:50.76\00:36:53.36
harvest!" And read
verse 36 to 38 John, I won't
00:36:53.63\00:36:57.13
read the whole
thing. And he who reaps
00:36:57.18\00:36:58.70
receives wages, and
gathers fruit for eternal
00:36:59.09\00:37:01.40
life, and both he
who sows and he who reaps
00:37:01.61\00:37:04.31
may rejoice together.
For in this the saying is
00:37:04.46\00:37:07.21
true: "One sows and
another reaps. I sent you
00:37:07.45\00:37:10.39
to reap that for
which you have not labored;
00:37:10.53\00:37:12.80
others have labored,
and you have entered into
00:37:13.60\00:37:16.09
their labors."
Sometimes John, we're there to
00:37:16.12\00:37:19.82
share the gospel and
to share the good news of
00:37:19.94\00:37:21.80
Christ with others and
they don't seem to want
00:37:22.10\00:37:24.74
to follow it or make
that commitment right at
00:37:24.77\00:37:26.58
that time but then
someone comes along a
00:37:26.73\00:37:29.48
little while later
and that ground, that is
00:37:29.60\00:37:33.30
already kind of begun
to germinate is nourished
00:37:33.42\00:37:36.66
enough where they
finally then accept.
00:37:36.80\00:37:38.65
And so then we find
that they're ready for
00:37:39.51\00:37:42.67
harvest. This gives a
concept that we ought to
00:37:42.84\00:37:46.61
grab on to here as
pastors and leaders and
00:37:46.80\00:37:48.74
teachers, very
important, because sometimes we
00:37:49.04\00:37:52.09
plant and we want to
see the fruits right away
00:37:52.49\00:37:54.37
and we feel that
because we don't get a baptism
00:37:55.29\00:37:57.81
that we have done
nothing. But, that's not what
00:37:58.20\00:38:00.81
the Bible says.
First Corinthians 3 verse
00:38:00.93\00:38:03.72
6 and 7, I want to read
this for you, I planted,
00:38:03.88\00:38:07.47
Paul is saying
Apollos watered, but God gave
00:38:08.09\00:38:12.49
the increase. So, then
neither he who plants is
00:38:12.54\00:38:16.81
anything, nor he who
waters, but God who gives
00:38:16.88\00:38:21.43
the increase. So, when
you have an evangelistic
00:38:21.49\00:38:24.10
series pastor I
wanna encourage you Bible
00:38:24.20\00:38:25.71
teacher keep giving
Bible studies because you
00:38:25.89\00:38:28.17
maybe the waterer or
you may be the planter.
00:38:28.32\00:38:30.23
Yeah. But, God no
matter what, God is the
00:38:30.59\00:38:33.18
increase, God is
the one who does the
00:38:33.51\00:38:34.99
harvesting, now
listen to verse 8. Now he who
00:38:35.23\00:38:38.11
plants and he who
waters are one, we're
00:38:38.49\00:38:40.36
doing the same thing
and each one will receive
00:38:40.39\00:38:43.19
his own reward
according to his own
00:38:45.11\00:38:46.08
labor. For we are
God's fellow workers; you are
00:38:46.09\00:38:49.65
God's field, you are
God's building. So, we're
00:38:49.97\00:38:53.74
working with the
Lord, we are not scattering,
00:38:53.78\00:38:56.53
we're gathering with
him. So, John may give a
00:38:56.94\00:38:59.30
Bible study and I
may come along and bring
00:38:59.44\00:39:01.28
that person to
fruition or I may give a Bible
00:39:01.39\00:39:03.51
study and John will
come along and baptize
00:39:03.71\00:39:05.27
them, hey, Praise the
Lord, we're doing God's
00:39:05.41\00:39:07.47
word, God calls us
at different times to do
00:39:07.66\00:39:09.80
different things. So
don't let it be become an ego
00:39:09.83\00:39:11.97
thing that somebody
has 15 baptisms and you've
00:39:12.18\00:39:14.68
got 5, you maybe
the one that did all the
00:39:14.71\00:39:16.69
planting and he came
along and watered that
00:39:16.91\00:39:18.75
which you planted for
five years, I remember
00:39:18.95\00:39:21.68
going to Barbados,
I remember going to
00:39:21.95\00:39:23.88
Trinidad to Rio
Claro, you maybe watching
00:39:24.31\00:39:27.33
from Rio Claro. And
I did an evangelistic
00:39:27.61\00:39:29.89
series there for one
week, a revival. And there
00:39:29.98\00:39:31.95
was a gentleman who
was attending church,
00:39:31.98\00:39:35.12
his name is
Charlie, I remember him very,
00:39:36.58\00:39:38.60
very well. And he, for
years the pastor had been
00:39:38.83\00:39:43.49
trying to get him to
join the church. And he just
00:39:43.52\00:39:47.65
for whatever reason
wouldn't budge, but that
00:39:47.77\00:39:50.43
pastor had been sowing
all those years. He had
00:39:50.57\00:39:52.96
been sowing seeds in
that person's life all those,
00:39:52.99\00:39:54.91
he visits Bible
studies, prayer and I came along
00:39:55.11\00:39:58.67
and I got the heroes
accolade of baptizing him.
00:39:59.75\00:40:02.92
And I thought to
myself, but I didn't do all the
00:40:04.64\00:40:06.50
work. I just came
along by God's own and God
00:40:06.69\00:40:09.92
said now is the time
to give increase, gather
00:40:10.12\00:40:13.04
young man in, gather
this father in and that
00:40:13.33\00:40:15.91
family rejoiced. It was
a celebration and all and
00:40:16.06\00:40:18.48
sometimes we give
accolade to the guy who
00:40:18.66\00:40:21.25
comes in and gets the
baptism, the evangelist
00:40:21.54\00:40:23.86
that's comes into town
hits and runs, but give
00:40:24.07\00:40:27.60
recognition to the
pastor who's laboring
00:40:28.04\00:40:29.68
diligently in the field
without notice, he is out
00:40:29.96\00:40:32.72
there sowing seeds,
sowing seeds, sowing seeds
00:40:32.96\00:40:35.93
and you have a big
series and the evangelist gets
00:40:36.13\00:40:38.33
all the, yeah, it's
not good. You know, let's
00:40:38.66\00:40:41.78
define something
here, because we're talking
00:40:41.93\00:40:43.48
about the harvest in
two respects, we're talking
00:40:43.75\00:40:47.17
about the great
harvest that happens at the end
00:40:47.34\00:40:50.19
of time, that is right,
but Jesus also speaks in the
00:40:50.30\00:40:54.29
context of harvesting
as we go along. So, they're
00:40:54.66\00:40:59.22
sowing and they're
reaping, reaping is the
00:40:59.42\00:41:00.99
harvesting or
pulling from the harvest that
00:41:01.25\00:41:02.93
has been ripen and so
John throughout centuries
00:41:02.96\00:41:05.82
now, harvesting has
been going on. Oh! Yes.
00:41:06.51\00:41:09.93
It's just in the
very last days the book of
00:41:10.60\00:41:12.56
Revelation tells
about a great harvest, okay,
00:41:12.60\00:41:16.04
that's the last
harvest that occurs and so if
00:41:16.29\00:41:21.21
you're kind of
confused maybe that we're kind
00:41:21.24\00:41:22.56
of talking back and
fourth about both, I just
00:41:22.59\00:41:24.62
want to clarify
that they're constant
00:41:24.75\00:41:26.77
harvesting going on
but then there was a great
00:41:27.09\00:41:29.05
harvest at the end
of time. And that is
00:41:29.32\00:41:31.06
something that I
think is important for us to
00:41:31.15\00:41:32.63
clarify here, because
in the context of that
00:41:32.74\00:41:34.82
timeline that we
talked about and that you're
00:41:35.10\00:41:36.31
writing now in your
white piece of paper or
00:41:36.47\00:41:38.45
whatever paper you
have, there is great harvest
00:41:38.52\00:41:40.72
at the end. Maybe we
ought to just read that
00:41:40.75\00:41:42.59
to kind of developing,
go for it, and then we can
00:41:42.73\00:41:44.40
go. It's
Revelation chapter 14. Okay,
00:41:44.58\00:41:47.61
Revelation 14 around
verse 15. And notice here
00:41:48.94\00:41:51.78
that this harvest
is, has gone through some
00:41:51.93\00:41:55.41
terrible things,
they've gone through a time of
00:41:55.59\00:41:57.73
trouble, they've
endured the attacks from the
00:41:57.88\00:42:00.70
beast, they've
resisted it's mark chapter 13,
00:42:00.87\00:42:04.31
they've done all these
things, and finally at the
00:42:05.77\00:42:07.68
end of time,
connected to the return of Jesus
00:42:07.97\00:42:11.04
Christ we find this
great harvest. And it says
00:42:11.14\00:42:15.67
here I'll begin with
verse 14, okay. In it,
00:42:15.70\00:42:21.17
you know, lets read
verse 12 here real quick to get
00:42:21.44\00:42:23.32
a context. Here are
the patience of the saints;
00:42:23.64\00:42:25.79
here are those who
keep the commandments of
00:42:25.88\00:42:27.20
God and have the faith
of Jesus. Those who are
00:42:27.71\00:42:29.54
loyal to him, okay
now let's read about the
00:42:29.88\00:42:31.86
harvest verse 14.
Then I looked, and behold a
00:42:32.04\00:42:35.16
white cloud, and on
the cloud sat One like the
00:42:35.54\00:42:38.48
Son of Man, having
on His head a golden
00:42:38.66\00:42:40.29
crown, and in His
hand a sharp sickle.
00:42:40.62\00:42:42.98
You know what a sickle
is, sickle is that curved
00:42:43.71\00:42:46.28
blade that you go
through. You've seen that in
00:42:46.51\00:42:48.35
the Soviet Union
flag, remember that.
00:42:48.41\00:42:50.19
Yeah there we go,
sickle there. And its
00:42:50.34\00:42:53.52
says here, another
angel came down out of the
00:42:53.70\00:42:56.48
temple, crying with a
loud voice to Him who sat
00:42:56.68\00:42:58.67
on the cloud, "Thrust
in Your sickle and reap,
00:42:58.87\00:43:01.78
for the time has come
or You to reap, for the
00:43:01.88\00:43:04.51
harvest of the earth is
ripe." This is the entire
00:43:04.79\00:43:07.89
earth's harvest
now. That's right.
00:43:08.19\00:43:09.44
Not individually
harvesting as we are able
00:43:09.74\00:43:11.94
to convert souls and
reach those for Jesus.
00:43:12.12\00:43:14.63
This is the full
package, the whole thing,
00:43:14.98\00:43:17.30
the gathering, yes.
Verse 16 and He who sat on
00:43:17.41\00:43:21.79
the cloud thrust in
His sickle on the earth,
00:43:21.82\00:43:23.77
and the earth was
reaped. Then another angel
00:43:24.77\00:43:27.54
came out of the
temple which is in heaven,
00:43:27.68\00:43:29.58
he also having a sharp
sickle. And another angel
00:43:30.03\00:43:33.27
came out from the
altar, who had power over
00:43:33.40\00:43:36.28
fire, and he cried
with a loud voice to him who
00:43:36.39\00:43:39.00
had the sharp sickle,
saying, "Thrust in your
00:43:39.03\00:43:41.72
sharp sickle and gather
the clusters of the vine
00:43:41.75\00:43:44.25
of the earth, for her
grapes are fully ripe.
00:43:44.28\00:43:46.87
" So the angel thrust
his sickle into the earth and
00:43:47.66\00:43:49.63
gathered the vine of
the earth, and threw it into
00:43:49.84\00:43:52.23
the great wine
press of the wrath of God.
00:43:52.26\00:43:54.84
And the wine press
was trampled outside the
00:43:55.98\00:43:58.07
city; the blood came
out of the wine press,
00:43:58.21\00:44:01.31
up to the horses'
bridles, for 1600 furlongs.
00:44:01.68\00:44:06.27
Umm! This a
terrible picture. Okay,
00:44:06.54\00:44:08.35
this is a terrible
picture of the harvest.
00:44:08.38\00:44:10.37
But, know that it's a
beautiful terrible picture,
00:44:10.60\00:44:12.52
because one they
were two reaping here,
00:44:12.59\00:44:14.12
if you've noticed
that, that's right, Jesus but
00:44:14.27\00:44:15.95
then another angel
coming, this is the angel
00:44:16.17\00:44:18.32
of bringing
destruction and by the way John,
00:44:18.36\00:44:21.21
you know this
pictures takes be back right in
00:44:21.41\00:44:22.83
the movement here
and I wanna write this
00:44:22.86\00:44:23.83
down, you may even
wanna write this down too
00:44:23.92\00:44:25.47
friends because in
Egypt, there were two
00:44:25.73\00:44:29.33
harvests, those who
had the blood of the Christ
00:44:29.49\00:44:32.62
on their door post
when the destroying angel
00:44:32.79\00:44:35.02
came by, the sickle,
the second angel here talked
00:44:35.20\00:44:39.31
about all the first
born in Egypt died and
00:44:39.50\00:44:43.26
destruction came to
Egypt in just a numerable
00:44:43.36\00:44:45.51
ways, but those who
are covered by blood of
00:44:46.18\00:44:48.72
lamb, that's right,
were passed over. But you
00:44:48.86\00:44:53.44
also have the harvest
of the Israelites because
00:44:53.47\00:44:56.79
God sent a message to
Egypt to gather them out,
00:44:57.08\00:45:00.16
to get them out of
there. And he was in essence
00:45:00.22\00:45:02.02
saying to them like
Revelation 18, come out
00:45:02.15\00:45:04.39
of Egypt my people,
but in the end time,
00:45:04.62\00:45:06.55
he's gonna be saying
come out of Babylon my
00:45:06.58\00:45:08.32
people. And when you
look at Revelation, it
00:45:08.53\00:45:10.61
even talks about the
place spiritually called
00:45:10.72\00:45:12.55
Egypt it's connecting
us back to that event,
00:45:12.70\00:45:14.75
when God delivered
his people the first time.
00:45:14.86\00:45:16.90
You see, so you see
the way John broke this
00:45:17.52\00:45:19.49
down all the way, the
way the Bible broke this
00:45:19.53\00:45:21.49
down from verse 14
to 16 is the beautiful
00:45:21.58\00:45:24.58
harvest. From 17 to 20
is the terrible harvest.
00:45:24.86\00:45:29.03
You see, Jesus gathering
as people, but then the
00:45:29.96\00:45:33.42
angel coming and
saying now that we've gotten
00:45:33.48\00:45:35.00
all the good stuff. There is a,
00:45:35.03\00:45:36.00
there is some, there is a wine
press of the fierceness of the
00:45:39.83\00:45:41.88
wrath of God. And it
said in verse 18 at the
00:45:41.99\00:45:44.69
end. Her grapes are
fully ripe, yes, yeah.
00:45:44.76\00:45:48.71
That means her sin
as Revelation 18 verse 5
00:45:48.80\00:45:53.11
says. Which is the
fruit of, their fruit is sin.
00:45:53.40\00:45:55.63
There you go. Not
righteousness, their fruit
00:45:56.14\00:45:57.95
is sin, they both,
we both have fruit.
00:45:57.98\00:45:59.60
That's right. The harvest
entirely in it's, in it's
00:45:59.78\00:46:02.67
entirety has fruit
both of it, but some
00:46:02.77\00:46:04.53
righteousness, some sin,
but, but notice this here
00:46:04.64\00:46:08.59
John it says that the
end is not yet, that the ones
00:46:08.93\00:46:14.87
that are here or all
the harvest that's here have
00:46:15.15\00:46:17.58
to go to this time
period called the seven last
00:46:17.68\00:46:19.60
plagues, okay, the
seven last plagues, which are
00:46:19.63\00:46:23.16
Revelation 15 and 16.
And those, who are part
00:46:24.36\00:46:27.53
of the hymn of the, of
the harvest of the wicked.
00:46:27.75\00:46:31.66
Those who have the,
the fruit of wickedness,
00:46:31.89\00:46:35.49
not righteousness, it
says, that they are, are
00:46:36.03\00:46:39.91
thrown into the great
wine press of the wrath
00:46:40.47\00:46:42.63
of God. That's their
result, that's what they
00:46:42.71\00:46:45.55
go through, okay. So,
and then we have chapter
00:46:45.58\00:46:48.68
15 and 16 that great,
the great. The seven last
00:46:48.83\00:46:54.24
plagues in that wine
press of the wrath of God
00:46:54.29\00:46:56.56
that they're all
experiencing. The, the
00:46:56.65\00:46:58.21
fierceness of the
wrath of God. There is
00:46:58.32\00:47:01.01
something else, this
is the so much here, I'm
00:47:01.17\00:47:02.63
getting excited.
Calm dow now John, calm
00:47:02.86\00:47:06.62
down. Okay, here we
go. The latter rain is the
00:47:06.80\00:47:14.29
ceiling, when that
latter rain happens the farmer
00:47:14.68\00:47:19.19
knows, it's time to go
ahead and get the harvest
00:47:19.42\00:47:21.68
go out and get it
all. And Jesus says, I will
00:47:22.17\00:47:26.09
send forth my
angels and they will and I
00:47:26.37\00:47:30.25
believe I have that
down here, read it for me
00:47:30.40\00:47:33.04
John, help me,
okay. Matthew 24:31,
00:47:33.23\00:47:37.60
and he will send his
angels with a great sound
00:47:37.69\00:47:39.35
of a trumpet and they
will gather together his
00:47:39.51\00:47:41.31
elect from the four
winds, from one end of
00:47:41.50\00:47:43.16
heaven to another.
Okay, at least that's one of
00:47:43.31\00:47:45.12
them. That's right,
and so, so that's what I'm
00:47:45.32\00:47:47.04
talking about. He's
and the way the angels know
00:47:47.21\00:47:49.47
who to gather is
because some are righteous,
00:47:49.65\00:47:51.80
some are, okay.
Okay, here we go.
00:47:52.60\00:47:53.83
Joel, we didn't cover
Joel, we gotta hit Joel
00:47:54.11\00:47:56.36
because we're right on
this subject now. Okay,
00:47:56.51\00:47:57.77
but I'm, finish the
point and go to Joel. Okay,
00:47:58.01\00:48:00.84
if you have the
righteous and then you have the
00:48:01.27\00:48:02.92
wicked. You and so,
there is a sealing that
00:48:03.08\00:48:06.01
makes it very clear.
What category each one
00:48:06.28\00:48:08.79
is in? Revelation
22:11. He that is unjust,
00:48:08.93\00:48:12.18
let him be unjust still.
He that is filthy let him
00:48:12.84\00:48:15.54
be filthy still. He
that is righteous, let him be
00:48:15.73\00:48:18.24
righteous still. He
that is holy, let him be holy
00:48:18.41\00:48:20.81
still; good grapes
taken into the barn of God,
00:48:20.98\00:48:25.56
the wheat. The tares,
the bad grapes, they're
00:48:25.88\00:48:30.21
gathered to be, set
side to be. Set aside to
00:48:30.57\00:48:32.77
receive the wrath of
God, set aside to be burned
00:48:33.01\00:48:35.35
as chaff. That's right,
okay. But they; but they
00:48:35.61\00:48:37.89
all designated by
the end of the harvest,
00:48:38.12\00:48:39.79
that's why we're
saying to you and I want to
00:48:40.09\00:48:41.60
reiterate going back
to the beginning point,
00:48:41.82\00:48:43.08
that declaration of
who's going, and who's
00:48:43.72\00:48:45.30
staying is not made
until the sealing takes place.
00:48:45.52\00:48:48.00
That's right. And the
sealing doesn't happen at
00:48:48.31\00:48:49.63
the, at the. There is no
rapture because, there is
00:48:49.66\00:48:52.39
no sealing, right, at
that particular point,
00:48:52.44\00:48:54.90
you see. Go
ahead. Yeah, and the, the
00:48:55.29\00:48:57.73
thing is, the point
is that you made with the
00:48:57.86\00:48:59.31
sealing, is that every
decision has been made at
00:48:59.48\00:49:01.67
that point. For the
whole world. That's your
00:49:01.70\00:49:03.47
decision made, so the
harvest in this last days
00:49:03.62\00:49:06.74
that Revelation 14
is talking about is
00:49:07.01\00:49:08.46
everything is done,
is pulled up. That's it.
00:49:08.66\00:49:10.61
There is nothing
left. See, this has been
00:49:10.73\00:49:11.97
harvesting, that's
going along throughout these
00:49:12.07\00:49:13.79
years, but at the end
of time that final harvest
00:49:13.98\00:49:16.28
will occur. Both,
both the righteous and the
00:49:16.38\00:49:19.33
wicked will be
harvested and decisions will
00:49:19.51\00:49:21.43
have been made. Now,
go to Joel chapter 3,
00:49:21.65\00:49:24.96
and we'll see that
this is exactly what's
00:49:25.86\00:49:27.49
happening. Okay, Joel
chapter 3, okay, we're
00:49:27.61\00:49:31.75
there. After Joel
chapter 2 talks about that his
00:49:32.04\00:49:36.13
spirit is poured out
on, on his, on his people,
00:49:36.33\00:49:39.80
his sons and his
daughters to prophecy.
00:49:39.91\00:49:41.78
We know, that is the
latter rain, Holy Spirit
00:49:42.57\00:49:44.76
outpouring, we get then
to chapter 3 and here is
00:49:44.89\00:49:48.00
what it's saying in
chapter 3. Behold in
00:49:48.15\00:49:51.46
those days and at
that time, when I bring the
00:49:51.70\00:49:54.27
back, back the captives
of Judah and Jerusalem I
00:49:54.32\00:49:56.98
will also gather, will
do what? Gather. Gather
00:49:57.01\00:50:01.20
all nations and bring
them down to the valley
00:50:01.41\00:50:03.87
of Jehoshaphat. And I
will enter into judgment
00:50:03.96\00:50:06.99
with them there.
Okay, so you wonder, well
00:50:07.11\00:50:08.74
what, what is
gonna. What happened to the
00:50:08.77\00:50:11.39
valley of Jehoshaphat.
By the way Jehoshaphat
00:50:11.55\00:50:14.20
means Yahweh is
judge, by the way. So, the
00:50:14.41\00:50:17.63
valley of Jehoshaphat
is where judgment takes
00:50:17.93\00:50:19.44
place. You know, I
said this and maybe I've
00:50:19.65\00:50:21.94
gotten in trouble for
before, but I, I don't
00:50:22.15\00:50:24.15
think too much
trouble because it's very
00:50:24.28\00:50:25.62
Biblical. Many say
that the last decisions are
00:50:25.77\00:50:29.70
made in this battle
of Armageddon, but that's
00:50:29.92\00:50:33.44
not the case. No.
The battle of Armageddon,
00:50:33.51\00:50:36.98
it doesn't actually
occur in Armageddon,
00:50:38.31\00:50:40.09
because if you look
back at Revelation 16,
00:50:41.27\00:50:43.54
it says, that those
who gathered together or
00:50:43.67\00:50:45.52
those gathered
together at that time in
00:50:45.66\00:50:47.01
Armageddon are
coming from the spirits of
00:50:47.10\00:50:49.37
demons and devils,
those that gather on the
00:50:49.51\00:50:51.36
weaken side are from
Armageddon, but God's
00:50:51.59\00:50:54.64
people don't dwell
in Armageddon. They just
00:50:54.88\00:50:57.24
are impacted by the
battle of Armageddon,
00:50:57.47\00:50:59.23
right, but the people
who have not made their
00:50:59.63\00:51:01.60
decisions aren't
in Armageddon. They're
00:51:01.75\00:51:03.55
actually in the valley
of Jehoshaphat as it says,
00:51:03.73\00:51:05.53
making their
decision where God will judge.
00:51:05.74\00:51:07.61
And if you want to
see more of this, look at
00:51:07.71\00:51:08.85
this, verse 12. Now,
I'm getting excited. Okay.
00:51:08.89\00:51:12.36
Verse 12, let the
nations be awakened and come
00:51:12.56\00:51:15.52
up to the valley of
Jehoshaphat. For there
00:51:15.67\00:51:19.26
I will sit to judge all
the surrounding nations.
00:51:19.42\00:51:22.08
Put in the sickle; for
the harvest is ripe, come,
00:51:22.91\00:51:26.00
go down for the wine
press is full. The vats
00:51:26.28\00:51:28.86
overflow for their
wickedness is great.
00:51:29.13\00:51:31.20
That's right. Multitudes,
multitudes in the valley
00:51:31.75\00:51:34.96
of decision! For the
day of the Lord is near in
00:51:35.27\00:51:37.74
the valley of
decision. The sun and moon will
00:51:37.78\00:51:39.67
grow dark, and the
stars will diminish their
00:51:39.83\00:51:41.76
brightness. The
Lord will roar from Zion,
00:51:41.99\00:51:44.92
and utter his voice
from Jerusalem, the heavens
00:51:45.04\00:51:46.93
and earth will shake,
but the Lord will be a
00:51:47.02\00:51:48.86
shelter for his people
and the strength of the
00:51:49.16\00:51:51.35
children of Israel.
Here's the exciting thing John,
00:51:51.43\00:51:54.75
look at this, Jerusalem
is here. Okay, outside of
00:51:54.89\00:51:58.33
Jerusalem you go
down to the valley of
00:51:58.43\00:51:59.96
Jehoshaphat. Outside
of the city. Above that
00:52:00.10\00:52:03.38
valley to the
north you have Megiddo,
00:52:03.51\00:52:05.40
Armageddon, the
valley or the valley of
00:52:06.19\00:52:08.97
Megiddo from the
north. We know Babylon's
00:52:09.53\00:52:12.06
attack comes from
the north. That's where
00:52:12.23\00:52:14.35
Armageddon is. The
decisions are made right
00:52:14.74\00:52:17.10
in the middle. The
question is, do you go,
00:52:17.33\00:52:19.26
do you go by way
of the north. Babylon,
00:52:19.97\00:52:22.43
or do you go by way
of the east, Jerusalem.
00:52:22.83\00:52:25.56
Good picture. Just, I mean even
00:52:27.59\00:52:29.15
the geography is, is,
is impactful here when you
00:52:29.18\00:52:31.91
study this out. It's
just very, very neat.
00:52:32.13\00:52:34.05
So, anyway read
Joel. Joel is an end time
00:52:34.23\00:52:37.97
prophetic book.
And Joel by the way,
00:52:38.23\00:52:40.51
is where John when,
when Revelation comes
00:52:41.16\00:52:43.60
together. Revelation
is a compilation of pieces
00:52:43.73\00:52:47.80
to a puzzle. It's kind
of like a treasure hunt.
00:52:48.50\00:52:50.68
And it all comes
together in Revelation,
00:52:50.91\00:52:52.39
you find pieces of
the treasure in Joel and
00:52:52.50\00:52:53.89
other Old Testament
prophets, but a couple of
00:52:54.00\00:52:57.03
points I want to also
make before we go finally
00:52:57.25\00:53:00.17
into the harvest.
The harvest always comes
00:53:00.31\00:53:02.61
after the spring in
summer. Always comes
00:53:03.19\00:53:07.20
after the spring in
summer. The other thing
00:53:07.56\00:53:12.38
is, if we're not ready
for the harvest we will
00:53:12.47\00:53:14.44
miss it. The harvest
is passed, the summer is
00:53:14.74\00:53:17.22
ended. We're not
saved. The harvest is a season
00:53:17.31\00:53:20.53
of gathering. The
harvest is a season of saving.
00:53:20.56\00:53:24.13
The harvest is a
season of destruction. Yeah.
00:53:25.15\00:53:27.93
The harvest is a season
of also people that have
00:53:28.49\00:53:30.92
not made their minds
to be saved or not given
00:53:31.06\00:53:33.67
their lives to
Christ, they will be lost.
00:53:33.74\00:53:35.40
The harvest is a
significant time,
00:53:35.76\00:53:37.58
but also until
the harvest is ripe,
00:53:38.24\00:53:40.40
gathering doesn't
occur. You see, Revelation
00:53:41.59\00:53:44.48
15:7. John, you,
I thought, you, you
00:53:44.57\00:53:49.50
went okay. We went
there, but we need to go
00:53:49.54\00:53:51.73
back to this. I don't
want to go to Revelation
00:53:51.85\00:53:53.46
15 yet. I'm going to
go to Revelation, back to
00:53:53.68\00:53:55.88
Revelation 14
because we talked about the
00:53:56.07\00:53:58.58
laborers. We
talked about the laborers.
00:53:58.76\00:54:01.92
Those who are gonna
labor, but the Revelation
00:54:02.99\00:54:05.16
7 and Revelation 14
give us a picture of the
00:54:05.39\00:54:10.07
laborers. You know
where I'm headed with
00:54:10.46\00:54:11.93
Yeah, sure. Okay, so
segue into that for me.
00:54:12.31\00:54:14.67
Well, Revelation 7
talks about two groups and
00:54:15.26\00:54:17.50
they're currently
delineated there in
00:54:17.55\00:54:19.41
Revelation 7. The first
that's introduced is the
00:54:20.00\00:54:25.61
144,000 it says, you
are sealed by God and
00:54:25.78\00:54:29.43
notice that the
winds, the four winds are not
00:54:29.57\00:54:31.72
let loose to blow upon
the earth until they're
00:54:31.85\00:54:33.92
sealed. That's
right. Reason for that is
00:54:34.19\00:54:36.04
because that calamity
that comes that shakes
00:54:36.29\00:54:38.32
the nations, that
causes them to have to evaluate
00:54:38.46\00:54:40.49
their life can't come
unless the messengers are
00:54:40.70\00:54:43.54
already prepared and
ready to go. That's right.
00:54:43.61\00:54:45.62
So, they're ready to
go. And what we find in
00:54:46.09\00:54:48.36
verse 9 of Revelation
7 is that finally a great
00:54:48.59\00:54:51.48
multitude, which no
one could number of all
00:54:51.69\00:54:53.45
nations, tries
peoples and tongues, standing
00:54:53.63\00:54:56.37
before the thrown and
before the lamb, clothed
00:54:56.51\00:54:59.37
in white robe, so
that is the harvest that is
00:54:59.40\00:55:03.69
finally completed,
but the laborers there are
00:55:04.01\00:55:07.88
the 144,000 who
are preaching, who are
00:55:07.91\00:55:10.58
God's prophets, who
are God's servants, it says
00:55:10.76\00:55:12.71
the servants of God,
who finish, help to finish
00:55:12.80\00:55:15.45
the work. So, you find
that the, these 144,000
00:55:15.49\00:55:18.66
are standing poised to
now this final gathering,
00:55:18.70\00:55:22.27
because remember I
used the comparison
00:55:22.82\00:55:23.85
earlier. There was
a final call, God's
00:55:23.94\00:55:26.03
messengers were
sent to Egypt. Moses and
00:55:26.19\00:55:28.98
Aaron were sent to
Egypt to, to carry this final
00:55:29.15\00:55:31.59
message the pharaoh to
let God's people go that
00:55:31.73\00:55:33.80
they may serve him.
In the last days, there's
00:55:33.90\00:55:35.82
gonna be a let my
people go, but this call is
00:55:35.93\00:55:38.14
going to spiritual
Babylon where people are in
00:55:38.34\00:55:40.04
darkness. Let them go
that they may worship me
00:55:40.28\00:55:42.44
in spirit and in
truth. Let them go that they
00:55:42.51\00:55:44.12
may honor me. And
this final message
00:55:44.15\00:55:46.09
comes through the
preaching of a 144,000.
00:55:46.39\00:55:48.54
Revelation 18, says,
that, that, that message
00:55:49.27\00:55:52.24
that they preached
Babylon has fallen is
00:55:52.38\00:55:54.05
repeated, but now
it's repeated with a loud
00:55:54.18\00:55:55.84
voice, loud voice,
yeah. And then they, but they
00:55:56.13\00:55:57.84
add to it come out of
her my people, like it
00:55:57.97\00:56:00.11
was come out of
Egypt, now come out of
00:56:00.31\00:56:01.40
Babylon. And that's all
the false systems of the
00:56:01.65\00:56:03.80
earth. Religion as
well as secular systems,
00:56:03.83\00:56:06.76
they all call us
together under Satan's banner to
00:56:06.90\00:56:09.97
destroy the work of
God, but God says, I'm
00:56:10.05\00:56:12.20
going to destroy
their work, come out of her.
00:56:12.48\00:56:14.41
Yeah, and in the
sequence of, of time and,
00:56:14.57\00:56:16.93
and structure
here, Revelation 14 also
00:56:17.01\00:56:19.50
introduces 144,000.
The messages they preach
00:56:19.66\00:56:22.58
and the harvest as a
result of that message.
00:56:23.00\00:56:24.91
That's right. This
stuff just comes together
00:56:25.12\00:56:27.01
perfectly. John, I'm
not sure we need to spend a
00:56:27.18\00:56:29.49
whole another time on
15 and 16. 'Cause those
00:56:29.61\00:56:31.64
are just the, the
ancillary, last plagues,
00:56:31.67\00:56:33.81
but go ahead and say
your final comments here,
00:56:34.67\00:56:36.10
because this is
exciting. We got to get this.
00:56:36.22\00:56:38.30
Now, we talked about
first fruits, the 144,000
00:56:39.14\00:56:42.43
are the first fruits
before the harvest is
00:56:42.56\00:56:44.02
done. Revelation 14
and verse 4, these are the
00:56:44.16\00:56:47.02
ones who are not
defiled with women of
00:56:47.26\00:56:48.70
the churches, for they
are virgins, pure message.
00:56:48.93\00:56:51.08
They are the ones
who follow the lamb
00:56:51.53\00:56:52.79
wherever he goes.
They were redeemed
00:56:53.19\00:56:54.85
from among men being
first fruits to God and
00:56:55.02\00:56:57.59
to the lamb. So, and
finally what it is in
00:56:57.88\00:57:00.67
their mouth was found
no deceit for they are
00:57:00.86\00:57:03.05
without fault
before the throne of God.
00:57:03.25\00:57:04.58
Their message is pure,
that's the message of the
00:57:04.88\00:57:06.82
final gathering.
Yeah, the three angel's
00:57:07.04\00:57:08.79
messages which are
being proclaimed, the
00:57:08.96\00:57:10.92
everlasting gospel
being claimed to all the world
00:57:11.04\00:57:12.98
in your hearing
even today. That's right,
00:57:13.35\00:57:15.45
John I, I think we tried
to squeeze all these into
00:57:16.26\00:57:18.39
a knapsack and just
vacuum pack it. We tried
00:57:18.95\00:57:21.13
to do our best, but
if you have any questions
00:57:21.27\00:57:23.05
you know where to
find us, but friends think
00:57:23.12\00:57:24.83
about this. The
time for sowing is now,
00:57:24.94\00:57:27.23
get ready because
Jesus is soon to come.
00:57:27.69\00:57:29.32
The harvest is soon be ready by
00:57:29.37\00:57:31.69
accepting Christ today.
00:57:31.72\00:57:33.37