Hello friends grab
your Bible and a friend,
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and sit back as we
explore God word together
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on this edition of House Calls.
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Well, welcome to
the House Calls program.
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We are glad that
you've joined us,
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my name is John
Lomacang and I'm always glad
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that you've chosen
to tune in, to sit back,
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to press record and to walk
with us through the study of
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the word of God.
I'm not alone though,
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I've with me my very
good friend John Stanton.
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It's good to be here
John. Yeah, how you've been?
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I'm, I've been
good, how about you?
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We have our
earth tones on today.
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Yeah, we got some, some
colors that close to imagine,
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but yeah, it would
be in sink that way too.
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You know, every time we
get together to walk with
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the word of God,
it's always exciting,
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but it's more then
exciting when we pray.
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It's inspiring, so why
wouldn't you pray for us.
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Okay, let's do that.
Dear father in heaven again
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we appeal to you the
almighty God for insights
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and your spirit and
knowledge and understanding
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as we read your word.
Lord, we don't ever want
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to assume that we can
know somehow your word
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without your help.
So, Lord reveal that to us
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today and press
upon our hearts something
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that will help us to
get to know you better
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in Jesus name. Amen.
Amen. As you know friends
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your Bible questions
makes this program very
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interesting and a
challenge to us sometime because
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some of you are very,
very good at answering
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or asking questions. But
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But we're gonna let
John start with the questions
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today and we're gonna
get right into our program
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because it's an exciting one.
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John, I've got a
question from Ian,
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and he is from
Rhode Island. Okay.
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It's actually several
parts here and we've answered
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another part in
the prior program,
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but this one he is
asking a question about
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Hebrews Chapter 6,
verses 4 through 6. Wow!
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So, we will take a look
at that, that passage there
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and the question he
has is let see here it says
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I like to here what your
interpretation is of this
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passage. Hebrews 6:4-6. Okay.
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It sounds like it's
saying that a backslidden person
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cannot be saved.
What say you and so
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let's take a look
at, at this passage here.
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We will go ahead and
read it then I will share some
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thoughts with
you. As to at least,
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how I believe
the word of God is,
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is reading here in
this passage. Okay.
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Here we go verse 4, it
is impossible for those
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who were once enlightened,
and have tasted the heavenly
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gift and had become
partakers of the Holy Spirit,
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and have tasted the good
word of God and the powers
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of the age to come, if
they fall away, to renew
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them again to repentance,
since they crucify again
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for themselves the
Son of God and put him to
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an open shame. John you
know, when you read this here
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first of all, just
on a quick reading,
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it looks like well if
you ever come to the Lord,
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get to know him, at some
point if you fall away, he
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can't accept you back.
That's right, but that's a quick
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review of it. Right.
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What we've got to do is
look little deeper and what
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is a rest of the word of
God say about this subject.
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Well, God's word, one
thing we can be sure is God
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is a forgiving
God, he is a loving God,
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he is a patient God.
Praise the Lord for that.
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And his word is full
of stories, umm! Umm,
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where men or women
have been children of his,
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who have fallen away,
they've done something
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and they've stepped
away and God has renewed them
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again to repentance,
so evidently this can't be
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talking about,
somebody who gets to know God,
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taste of his blessings,
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and knows him very
well, falls away an example
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I think the most
common is David falls away.
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Umm! Umm! Commits
murder, commits adultery,
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running away from
God and tell a prophet,
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the prophet
Nathan comes and says,
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hey this is what you're
doing God renewed him back
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to repentance again
and called him a man
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after my own heart. Umm!
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So, we know that this
is not excluding people,
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who backslide.
Well, this is not like,
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this is not like slamming
the door on your chances
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are over. That's right.
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Because remember
the Lord said to Peter,
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how often should you or
Peter asked the question
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how often Lord should be
forgive, should be 7 times
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seven and the Lord
said no seventy times seven.
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That's right. So, he
is talking about that on,
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he is talking about
that be ready to forgive
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if the person
is ready to repent.
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That's right and so
with this passage you know
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yes what is he talking
about. This passage is talking
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more about
someone, who backslides and
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doesn't turn from
their wicked ways;
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they continue in
their backslidden state
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and what simply the
writer Hebrew is saying is.
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God cannot save
someone in a backslidden state.
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Right exactly. And so
if you remain backslidden,
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if you remain walking
away from God, if you remain
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as this says if you fall
away and you crucifying again
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the son of God, not
repenting of your works,
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God cannot save you. So,
in many respects this does
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in fact establish John and
I know one of the teachings
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out there today is
one saved always saved.
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Umm! Umm! But if you
are saved and you fall away,
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if you do not repent,
you do not turn and comeback
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to God, God cannot
save you. That's right.
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It's not that he won't
save you if you repent,
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is that he cannot save
you in that backslidden state.
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That's right and Peter
talked about the fact that
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also he says, it is
better that they have not known
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the way of righteousness
then having known it to
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turn away from the
Holy commandment delivered
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to them. Right. So, the
Lord is talking about not
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you get one chance or
he is not talking about
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three wishes for
salvation. Umm! Umm!
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But he is talking
about the heart that has been
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hardened
against the will of God.
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The heart that has
been hardened against
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God's voice and we
often talk about that as
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the unpardonable sin. Yeah.
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Or that which
would take us to a place,
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where the voice of
God is no longer heard
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and we no longer respond to him.
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That's right and
even knowing at this point
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God is calling us. Umm! Umm!
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But yet, we refuse to
here, we in fact we say,
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I've always, you know
you've had this question
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to as a pastor John,
where someone come and says
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I'm afraid I've
committed the unpardonable sin.
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Umm! Umm! And
you know both of us
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I think we answer very
similarly and that if you
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are afraid you've committed it,
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you haven't committed it.
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That' a good one. That's right.
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Because you know, if
one that is committed
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the unpardonable sin has no
interest in spiritual things,
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there is no worry on
their heart about salvation.
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They've left it
behind, they could care less,
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if walked away from God,
they don't want to repent
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with him. Umm! And
the unpardonable sin
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is saying that God
cannot pardon that state
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and anyway it ties into
this, but I think it's good
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to understand that
God is always merciful,
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he is always ready
quickly to forgive,
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if we sincerely are
sorry and we repent of our sin.
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Matter of fact
there is a text here in,
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in Second Peter 3
verse 9, if you turn with us
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in your Bible there.
Very encouraging text,
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we have to see the
balance of God. God is not a guy
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with a telescope
and with a Gajda,
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he is not like a highway
patrolman with a radar gun
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hiding behind a bush.
And he is not trying to keep
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you out. No. He is
trying to get you in.
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And that's what
this text says. Right.
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It says in Second Peter
3:9. The Lord is not slack
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concerning his promise,
as some count slackness,
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but is longsuffering
towards us, not willing that
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any should perish,
but that all should come
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to repentance. And so
when you repent the Bible says
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in first John 1:9,
if we confess our sins,
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He is faithful and
just to forgive us our sins
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and to cleanse us
from all unrighteousness.
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Another text
says, if you come to me,
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I will novice cast you out. Umm!
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So, we're not talking
about God, who just says,
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you know, I really
wish I could save you,
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but you've really
gone too, too far.
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The going too far is
one we hardened our heart
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not one we outlast.
Yeah. The mercy of God.
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In the Old Testament
too God repeatedly says that
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Israel come back to me, which
means they were once there.
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They are backslidden
and He is saying comeback.
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Why would he invite back
if there is no possibility?
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So, return to me,
come back to me even though
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you were there once,
you were once my child,
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you fallen away, I
want you to comeback to me.
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So, that invitation
always stands for those,
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who were out there in
that backslidden state.
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We should be praying for him.
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You know, John
matter of fact on that,
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on that note about
return the Book of Malachi
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is a Book of Return, if
you get a chance to study
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it's only four chapters in it.
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Of four chapters
you'll discover that the
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theme of Malachi is to
return and we often refer
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just to Malachi chapter 3,
where it says return unto me,
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and I will return unto
you in reference to ties,
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right, but there are
about 5 other returns
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in that book, the
Lord and they keep saying,
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where in have we
forsaken you, where in
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have returned away
from you and one of those
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that we focus on as
where in have we robbed you.
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Yeah. But it's
always a return message
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and one of the most
touching stories in the Bible
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is the story of Hosea and Gomer,
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where Hosea a godly
man of God marries Gomer.
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What a terrible name for
women, but she is a woman
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of harlotry and the
Lord knows that she is gonna
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mess up before
Hosea even marries her.
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They have three
children and the third child
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is the name means,
not my child. Umm! Umm!
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The second one means
not my child, the third one,
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yeah the third one
means not my child.
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The second means no
mercy in this house. Umm! Umm!
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The first one means God shows,
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so it begins in a good
way. But then she leaves
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the relationship
and then God uses that,
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that parable that metaphor,
that allegory to show how
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he feels about
Israel and he pursues her,
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he goes into the
desert and speaks comfortably
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to her and he reminds
her of the blessing that they
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had when she was young
and then she finally says,
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I'll go return to my
husband for it was better
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with me then, then it
is with me now. Umm! Umm!
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So, God is a
merciful God. That's right.
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And I'm glad you brought
it out, so if you are asking
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the question though
you have not committed
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the unpardonable sin
praise the God for that.
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We have a question
from, as best I can see here
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is David and I'm gonna
read the question because
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I think the person
took time to put it together
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and I think it's
very important. Recently,
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I started observing the
traditional Saturday Sabbath,
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Friday at local sun down,
till Saturday at local sun
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down time. However,
something concerns me
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with this start and
end times of the Sabbath.
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Listen really carefully,
if you count for the whole
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worldwide congregation,
I think you will find that
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our current
traditional view of the Sabbath
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makes it 48 hours long.
I could hear all the wheels
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turning now.
Consider this example
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the date line is in
the middle of the pacific.
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Two men are
standing a few feet apart,
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where is the date line
between them and the sun
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is setting on Friday
for the man to the east
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and to the setting
on Saturday for the man
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to the west. The man to
the west of the date line
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is ending his Sabbath
observance and the man
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to the east is just beginning
his Sabbath observance.
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For 24 hours, people
around the world are starting
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Sabbath with the
sunset and then for the next
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24 hours people all
around the world are ending
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Sabbath with the
sunset. This would make God's
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holy day 48 hours, good try.
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Oh! Let me show you some
of the logic that probably
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is not logic there. We
don't have a 14 day week,
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we have a seven day week.
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We don't have 336 hour
a week, we have a 168 hour
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a week and then let me
even become little bit more
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cynical he just
illustrated a point.
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We sleep usually
for 8 hours a day,
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that's because
it's a 24 hour a day.
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Not 16 hours a day
because it's a 48 hour a day.
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The point of the
matter is we are existing
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in a time zone, where
we only have 24 hours,
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now if you gonna spend
your life traveling and never
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stopping and you are
racing against the sun to keep
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it up then you will
discover then that's the
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problem we have to
deal with. But the Lord
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is saying to us
from evening to evening.
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I mean Leviticus
23:32: From evening to evening
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you shall celebrate the Sabbath.
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Our sun sets once
every 24 hours, our sun rises
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once every 24 hours, where
we live and where we exist.
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The moon comes
up and the moon goes
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down once in
that 24 hour period.
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So, the obligation of
the rest of the world is not
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the local obligation
you have and to say that
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we have a 48 hour
Sabbath is to say that everyday
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is 48 hours and how
many days do we end up
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in a year. Now 365, we
will have 730 days in a year.
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Umm! Umm! If we
follow that logic,
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so concern
yourself with what you do,
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where you are
locally. For example,
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my wife and I we left. If
we left to go to Australia,
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that's left from United States
go to Australia on Friday.
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We would miss the
Sabbath and end up there
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on Sunday and so we
would not even observe
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the Sabbath because the
sun will go up and down,
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before we even land. Umm! Umm!
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But if we left on the
Sabbath from Australia,
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we would arrive 3 hours
later on the Sabbath here
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in the United
States, which would make our
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Sabbath really, really
long and so you lose time
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going one way and you
gain time or it's added up
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going the other
way. But the bottom line
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is God only holds
you accountable for where
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you live. So, those
who are in Australia,
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I called my wife when
we were in Australia and
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I said hey I just came
home from church this Sabbath
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afternoon and she was in, I
think California at the time
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and she says well I'm
just going to bed it's Friday
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night, so she hadn't
even gone to church yet
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and I already done
church on Sabbath afternoon.
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The point of the matter
is, we do have worldwide
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community, but God
only holds you accountable
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for the sunset and the
sunset, where you live.
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Thank you so much
for that question.
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Let's take that also
really quick at to another
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logical state.
Alright. If someone is capable
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of standing next to
each other on either side
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of Zero Zulu Time. Umm!
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Which is the
median, you know, zero.
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Umm! Separating
one day from the next,
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the person that is
concluding the Sabbath
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at the end of their
day and the person that
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is beginning the next day. Umm!
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Are not in the same
day. No they're not.
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The person that is
beginning the day has already
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been ahead of the person
finishing the day. Right.
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You know, what I'm saying. Umm!
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So, the person, the person
finishing the day if there
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in the Sabbath. The
next person is already
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had their Sabbath. Right.
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So, it's not a 48 rotation. No.
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So, even if you
standing next to each other
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and either side of that
timeline for logic reasons.
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It's still a 24 hour day,
one person has already had it,
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the other person is
finishing it, 24 hours the
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sun passes them in
that time period. So,
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there is not,
there can't be 48 hours.
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Just by merely
understanding how the sun works.
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Now, I'm trying to
look at what you know
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whether or not
achieving theoretically possible
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for someone to count
he decided that time.
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I can't find it, if I'm
on internet really quick.
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But just you know in
that logic it is impossible
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to have a 48 hour period.
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You've got to be,
you've got to be standing
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at the North
Pole, I mean the north,
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the north this
north you can get.
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I've seen people do
that. I saw a picture
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of an explorer obviously
it was in a family outing.
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But they were standing
at what they have believed
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was the upper most
north of the North Pole,
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where you have that point.
If you were to cause a globe,
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if you would to put a
ball, a pen through a ball
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and the pen came
through the top of the ball,
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they, they literally put
stacks all around that point
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and they said as they
walked around the points.
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They went across the
timelines, that's something,
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that's pretty interesting.
I think that's probably
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the only situation,
where you have to discover,
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where you will discover
that as the person walks
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around they are in the
different time zone every
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step they take, but
that's, that's a very,
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very unusual circumstance
and realistically people
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couldn't live in
such a small space or even
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as you began to spread that out,
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so that's not something
that we have to deal with,
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but where you are
is where the Sabbath
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accountability is going
to come to you from the Lord.
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Umm! Umm! Okay.
I've got a question here,
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it's a good
question and it's a question
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I've been asked several
times before as a pastor.
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So, I thought, let's go
ahead and answer this here.
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This from Jayvee and
it says. I was told in the
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church that Ellen G.
White is the spirit of prophecy
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with the Bible God's
words says. I don't understand
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the first part, but I get
adjust of it. When I asked
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why does Ellen White
writings go within the Bible,
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I was told that no
you cannot add anything
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to the Bible okay. My
question is if we cannot
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put within the Bible
or together with the Bible
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God's word, why even
mention her in the preaching,
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okay. So, I think I
gonna say just of this.
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Umm! Let's talk about
the spirit of prophecy,
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that's really the
thing that I like to kind a
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holding on here. Alright.
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There are many
within the Adventist faith,
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who referred to Ellen
White writings as the spirit
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of prophecy and to
tell the truth every time
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I hear that, I actually
cringe a little bit because
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technically her writings
are not the spirit of prophecy
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but that she has
manifested in her writings the
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inspiration from the
Holy Spirit and has displayed
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the gift of
prophecy. Okay you go.
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So, the gift of the spirit,
which is one of those gifts
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is prophecy has led her to
write what she has written.
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Right. But her
writings are the, the,
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not a, the spirit of
prophecy and so I was gonna
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step back and say,
let's not, let's not say that,
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let's say that sister
White's writings are one of the
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manifested gifts of
prophecy of the last days
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through her ministry. Right.
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And I know that we
have generically John,
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we have generically
called her writings a spirit
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of prophecy. Right.
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But I think this
creates confusion and that's one
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of the reasons why I think
that this person is writing
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this question. They
are little bit confused on
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why or her writings
called the spirit of prophecy
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and I would say. Let
me just add to this in the
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last days there is
an just one prophet.
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Right. If I, through
Book of Joel, God says that,
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I will pour on my spirit
on all flesh and your sons
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pour and your
daughters pour shall prophecy.
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That's right,
spirit and prophecy.
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So, the gift of prophecy
will still be manifested
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in the last days not in
just one set of writings,
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but through
many. Now, I believe,
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she is one of the ways.
So, one of the people that God
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manifested his gift
of prophecy through. Umm!
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But I also believe
that there will be others at
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some point, who
they are, when they are,
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when they come, I
don't know John. Right.
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I'm just saying
that's what the Bible says
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and so clearly I
think one of the points
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we should take from
this is that God does have
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prophets in the
last days. Really,
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he will manifest that
gift through his prophets
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and so whenever you
mention the word prophet.
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Don't immediately say,
oh! you know, I can't hear
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that you know, there is
no prophets in these days.
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Because clearly God
says there will be prophets
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in the last days. The
Bible is very clear on that,
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but I think what we need
to be careful of or we need
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to do hear is be
concerned that we make sure
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whether or not the
prophet that is being spoken off
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is a false prophet or
true prophet. That's the key.
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That's the key or
we just, you know,
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what is their ministry
are they a false prophet
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or true prophet
because why would Jesus warn
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about false prophet coming
if they want true prophets
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in the last days. Well
because they are true so,
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when you hear about a
prophet. Don't you say,
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oh! not possible, but
go to the word and it says
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to the law and to the testimony.
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In another words to the
testimony of God's word,
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if they speak in
line with this scriptures
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then they can be
consider or could be considered
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a prophet of God. You
know, there is one that comes
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to mind John that you
know we don't like to name
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denominations or names are here.
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But a prophet that
arose, a proclaim prophet,
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that arose over the
last couple of hundred years
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and the writings that he
produced are directly contrary
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to scripture in many
places and so immediately
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if you look at this to
the law unto the testimony
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judging whether or not
he is possibly a prophet of
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God or not. As
soon as he begins to,
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as soon as his writings
contradict scripture what
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would we say,
we have to conclude
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he is false prophet. Exactly.
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And we have no
comps about saying,
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but that man is a
false prophet. Umm!
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So the question is,
when you read sister
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White's writings, does
she contradict scripture.
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And that's the key Ellen.
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And that's the key and
we can find in no intense,
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where she contradicts
scripture. But instead she
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uplifts Christ and
points to scripture. Umm!
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And says in fact the
scripture was the only rule
00:21:47.64\00:21:49.96
of our faith. John
that, I like the way
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you did that and
that was very good.
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I got a letter from a
person once who sat me
00:21:54.94\00:21:57.95
down as a pastor and the pastor
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now we don't want
you to leave the church.
00:22:00.29\00:22:01.97
But we have
something to tell you and
00:22:02.00\00:22:04.08
I said to them before
you say anything to me,
00:22:04.11\00:22:06.45
I wanna encourage
you that there is nothing
00:22:06.48\00:22:08.05
you could tell me,
that gonna cause me
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to leave the church
and they went through
00:22:09.89\00:22:11.61
this whole list. They
had rolled me about a quarter
00:22:11.64\00:22:14.48
of an inch thick of
paper is that they gather
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articles together and
quotation and they said now,
00:22:16.83\00:22:19.05
we went through the
statements of Ellen White
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and we found this whole
list of things that contradict
00:22:21.34\00:22:23.87
the Bible and it
contradicts the word of God
00:22:23.90\00:22:27.31
and we believe
contradict the principles
00:22:27.34\00:22:28.79
of God's word in
there lot of areas.
00:22:28.82\00:22:30.21
But we don't want to
leave the church because
00:22:30.24\00:22:32.33
some people have and
so I thought well how,
00:22:32.36\00:22:35.14
how deceptive is your
approach. Because they
00:22:35.17\00:22:39.31
also said to me
these things were showing
00:22:39.34\00:22:40.99
you many others have
left because of these things?
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But we don't want you
to leave and I don't think
00:22:44.35\00:22:46.44
what do you
showing this to me for so,
00:22:46.47\00:22:48.14
I encourage them
and not going anywhere.
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But one of the very
classic statements where as,
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where Jesus said he had
curse the fig tree. Umm! Umm!
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Ellen White said
in Desire of Ages,
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he curse the
sycamore tree. Umm! Umm!
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And so somebody
say see now how do you
00:23:02.18\00:23:04.41
answer that. Once it's
fig tree, once it's sycamore
00:23:04.44\00:23:07.22
tree. Well,
truly at that moment,
00:23:07.25\00:23:09.37
I have thought to
myself. But I was praising God,
00:23:09.40\00:23:11.49
that I answer, that
one seems really odd.
00:23:11.52\00:23:14.41
Let me look into
that and I discovered that
00:23:14.44\00:23:17.01
in the region of the
world, where that story
00:23:17.04\00:23:19.68
was localized. There
was a particular tree called
00:23:19.71\00:23:22.52
the Ficus Sycomorus,
which was the sycamore fig tree.
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Umm! Umm! Which, so
both names are correct.
00:23:26.32\00:23:28.88
Umm! Umm! It was
the region of the
00:23:28.91\00:23:31.20
world that's
specifically identify the event,
00:23:31.23\00:23:35.86
where the event
occurred. So, otherwise
00:23:35.89\00:23:37.87
it's sycamore the Lord
says fig tree and the tree
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was Ficus Sycomorus
or Sycamore fig tree
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and so I thought well
they both correct and then
00:23:42.69\00:23:46.33
somebody also said the
Ellen White doesn't understand
00:23:46.36\00:23:48.50
Greek. She only had a
third grade education,
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well God
understands the Greek. Yeah.
00:23:50.87\00:23:53.13
So, there is not
necessity for that,
00:23:53.16\00:23:54.65
but let me add this
building on the point you made.
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Acts chapter 2,
John talked about Joel 2.
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But the Lord says,
he shall come to past,
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Acts 2, verse 17: In
the last days That I will
00:24:03.99\00:24:07.23
pour out of My Spirit
on all flesh; your sons
00:24:07.26\00:24:09.99
and your
daughters shall prophesy,
00:24:10.02\00:24:11.50
your young men
shall see visions,
00:24:11.53\00:24:14.09
your old men shall dream dreams.
00:24:14.12\00:24:17.62
And on My menservants
and on My maidservants
00:24:17.65\00:24:21.12
I will pour out My
Spirit in those days; and they
00:24:21.15\00:24:24.74
shall prophesy. You'll
discover that the spirit
00:24:24.77\00:24:27.06
that is talk about,
when we see the phrase spirit
00:24:27.09\00:24:29.14
of prophecy. You'll
discover all through the Bible,
00:24:29.17\00:24:31.83
the spirit of God was
the one working through
00:24:31.86\00:24:33.90
the prophecy. As the
matter of fact Zechariah says.
00:24:33.93\00:24:36.90
Not by my nor by
power, but by my Spirit,'
00:24:36.93\00:24:39.82
See so Zechariah a
prophet understood that
00:24:39.85\00:24:43.27
what he was seeing
the revelation that came
00:24:43.30\00:24:46.55
to him was by God's
spirit. John 16:13 talks about
00:24:46.58\00:24:50.39
that spirit: However,
when he, the Spirit of truth,
00:24:50.42\00:24:52.57
is come, he will lead
you and he will guide you
00:24:52.60\00:24:54.72
into all truth.
So, we see once again
00:24:54.75\00:24:57.25
is the Holy Spirits
work, that works through the
00:24:57.28\00:25:00.72
vessels and John if
you can read for us First
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Corinthians 1 verse
6 and 7. Let me know
00:25:03.68\00:25:05.78
when you get there.
God has given his church
00:25:05.81\00:25:08.50
various gifts.
Some are the gifts of,
00:25:08.53\00:25:11.24
some are miraculous gifts,
some are administrative gifts.
00:25:11.27\00:25:15.10
Some are gifts like
helps and bearing one of his
00:25:15.13\00:25:20.45
burdens and the
gift of administration.
00:25:20.48\00:25:22.83
But listen to what he
says this particular reason
00:25:22.86\00:25:26.92
for the gift of the
spirit of prophecy being
00:25:26.95\00:25:30.54
in his church is
described in First Corinthians
00:25:30.57\00:25:33.75
1 verse 6 and 7 the
Lord wants his church
00:25:33.78\00:25:35.97
to be fully furnished and
fully prepared for the work
00:25:36.00\00:25:39.58
of the last days I
wanna back up to 4, because.
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Okay, do that. This gift
comes by the grace of God,
00:25:41.68\00:25:44.20
we need to stay that. Okay.
00:25:44.23\00:25:45.91
I think my God always
concerning you for the grace
00:25:45.94\00:25:48.47
of God, which was
given you by Christ Jesus
00:25:48.50\00:25:51.16
that you were
enriched in everything by him,
00:25:51.19\00:25:53.86
in all utterance,
and in all knowledge
00:25:53.89\00:25:55.80
even as the testimony of
Christ was confirmed in you:
00:25:55.83\00:25:59.18
so that you come short
in no gift, eagerly waiting
00:25:59.21\00:26:02.50
for the revelation of
our Lord Jesus Christ. Umm!
00:26:02.53\00:26:05.49
So, you would notice
that the gift was confirmed
00:26:05.52\00:26:08.40
in God's Church that
gift, the gift of prophecy
00:26:08.43\00:26:12.31
was confirmed there. So,
that the church will come
00:26:13.64\00:26:15.67
behind in no gift and
when you read revelation
00:26:15.70\00:26:17.91
you will discover a
phrase his servants the prophet,
00:26:17.94\00:26:21.34
his servants the prophets,
his servants the prophets.
00:26:21.37\00:26:23.55
You will discover once
again reiterating the text,
00:26:23.58\00:26:25.72
I just read in Acts
chapter 2 verses 17: My spirit,
00:26:25.75\00:26:29.59
your daughter and
sons shall prophesy,
00:26:30.80\00:26:32.67
pleural daughters, sons. Umm!
00:26:32.70\00:26:34.98
So, what's going to
happen in the last days
00:26:35.01\00:26:37.07
and John we could
open the door to this here.
00:26:37.10\00:26:39.37
But I do believe
that one of the functions
00:26:39.40\00:26:42.60
of the hundred and
forty four thousand.
00:26:42.63\00:26:44.56
That's right. Is
to go forth and reveal
00:26:44.59\00:26:46.78
to the world and this final
push of the gospel a message
00:26:46.81\00:26:49.87
that the world has
not here to for heard.
00:26:49.90\00:26:52.45
And they manifest
that prophetic gift.
00:26:52.48\00:26:54.31
And is the Holy Spirit
is one empowering them.
00:26:54.34\00:26:56.64
Act revelation 18,
the earth is lightened
00:26:56.67\00:27:01.49
with the glory of
God. There is no way that
00:27:01.52\00:27:03.13
we could be lightened
with the glory of God except
00:27:03.16\00:27:05.20
as what happened on
the day of Pentecost,
00:27:05.23\00:27:06.75
when the spirit of God
came upon the disciples
00:27:06.78\00:27:09.93
and they
prophesied. That's right.
00:27:09.96\00:27:12.93
And they spoken languages
that the world understood
00:27:12.96\00:27:15.45
the message, I think
there is gonna be one more
00:27:15.48\00:27:17.63
great manifestation greater
then the day of Pentecost.
00:27:17.66\00:27:20.08
Umm! Because that was
the local in Jerusalem,
00:27:20.11\00:27:21.92
but this is gonna
be worldwide. Now.
00:27:21.95\00:27:24.55
Yeah. I think one of
the reasons some have
00:27:24.58\00:27:27.21
problems with the writings
of Ellen White is because
00:27:27.24\00:27:30.02
first of all they
falsely believe and this is an
00:27:30.05\00:27:32.63
incorrect view. That we
hold her writings on par
00:27:32.66\00:27:35.99
with scripture and
that we read her writings
00:27:36.02\00:27:37.80
as if they are scripture. Right.
00:27:37.83\00:27:39.79
And we do not, if she
herself says that you should
00:27:39.82\00:27:43.08
stand on the word of
God. And if in anyway
00:27:43.11\00:27:45.59
she would to
contradict scripture reject her.
00:27:45.62\00:27:50.01
Right. Her
statement, but follow scripture.
00:27:50.04\00:27:52.17
Umm! So, she even
makes that statement herself.
00:27:52.20\00:27:53.91
So, we as a church as a
Seventh-Day Adventist church
00:27:53.94\00:27:55.81
do not hold her
writings. On par.
00:27:55.84\00:27:58.25
In line or on par with
the Bible with scripture.
00:27:58.28\00:28:00.47
Her job was the same
job as other messengers
00:28:01.90\00:28:05.03
that were send by
God in the Old Testament
00:28:05.06\00:28:07.14
and many were called prophets.
00:28:09.69\00:28:10.66
Umm! Umm! And their
job was to bring some kind
00:28:10.67\00:28:13.26
of message or
counsel to the people,
00:28:13.29\00:28:15.14
God's people of
that day and her writings
00:28:15.17\00:28:18.14
we see them as a way
of keeping God's church
00:28:18.17\00:28:20.81
on track, so if we
got off track in someway
00:28:20.84\00:28:24.37
or there was an issue
that they were dealing
00:28:24.40\00:28:26.14
with or something came about,
00:28:26.17\00:28:27.29
where God needed to
speak on a specific thing
00:28:27.32\00:28:29.98
or maybe in a principle
or other things that he
00:28:30.01\00:28:33.79
needed to reveal to his church,
00:28:33.82\00:28:35.08
he used his messenger. Umm! Umm!
00:28:35.11\00:28:37.36
For that day Sister
White to bring that message
00:28:37.39\00:28:40.30
to the church and that
is how we view her writing.
00:28:40.33\00:28:44.03
She provides counsel
of the church and John,
00:28:44.06\00:28:46.30
I mean. Is it a strange
thing to presume that God
00:28:46.33\00:28:49.33
would not
counsel his church today.
00:28:49.36\00:28:51.38
No as a matter fact. Is
that odd for some reason,
00:28:51.41\00:28:54.86
I mean would
somebody thing that's weird,
00:28:54.89\00:28:56.25
I mean that we would
have a messenger in our midst
00:28:56.28\00:28:59.11
that would help
counsel or guide the church.
00:28:59.14\00:29:00.86
You know, it's
strange about that John is
00:29:01.64\00:29:02.61
there a lot of people
today they call themselves
00:29:02.62\00:29:04.57
prophets. There are some
ladies they call themselves
00:29:04.60\00:29:07.91
prophetesses. Umm!
00:29:07.94\00:29:09.73
And they are
preaches on TV that says.
00:29:10.36\00:29:12.99
Well, the Lord just
gave me a prophecy for you.
00:29:13.02\00:29:14.92
Yeah. And they
are totting themselves
00:29:14.95\00:29:17.56
as having this gift.
But when you measure what
00:29:17.59\00:29:20.09
they say by the
Bible, it's at the harmony of
00:29:20.12\00:29:22.18
the Bible. When you
look at the writings
00:29:22.21\00:29:23.77
of Ellen White
and do the same thing,
00:29:23.80\00:29:25.20
you will discover it's
not out of harmony with
00:29:25.23\00:29:27.13
the Bible, but what's
the wonderful about her
00:29:27.16\00:29:28.90
writings is that she
says our greed is the Bible
00:29:28.93\00:29:32.36
and the Bible only. It
is the only rule of faith
00:29:32.39\00:29:36.08
in practice for the
Christian. That's right.
00:29:36.11\00:29:38.08
That's what she says,
the Bible and the Bible
00:29:38.11\00:29:40.30
only is the only rule of
faith in practice for the
00:29:40.33\00:29:42.92
Christian upholding the Bible,
00:29:42.95\00:29:44.29
we don't have an
additional Bible.
00:29:44.32\00:29:46.37
Umm! Likes a denomination does,
00:29:47.23\00:29:48.55
we don't hold to a
specific translation of the
00:29:48.58\00:29:51.42
Bible above another
as denomination does.
00:29:51.45\00:29:54.69
We look to the
Bible and the Bible only,
00:29:54.72\00:29:56.54
but the counsel God is
given to Ellen White has
00:29:56.57\00:29:59.00
pointed everybody
back to the foundational
00:29:59.03\00:30:01.16
scriptures and the
principles that have been
00:30:01.19\00:30:03.95
supported by
the scriptures. Umm!
00:30:03.98\00:30:05.54
Anyway, I think we
need to go there and need
00:30:06.36\00:30:07.51
to stop there. But if
you have any questions
00:30:07.54\00:30:10.21
or if we've kind
a jar our thoughts
00:30:10.24\00:30:12.82
about something
that we mentioned send
00:30:12.85\00:30:14.87
your questions and comments to
00:30:14.90\00:30:16.36
housecalls@3abn.org
that's housecalls@3abn.org
00:30:16.39\00:30:21.56
and once again we will
try our best to respond
00:30:21.59\00:30:24.29
to those in a timely
manner. But as you can see
00:30:24.32\00:30:26.87
we get lot of
questions and we only handle
00:30:26.90\00:30:28.99
about 3 or 4 the
most during the first half
00:30:29.02\00:30:32.22
of our program. Now, John
this is an exciting program,
00:30:32.25\00:30:34.90
we are talking about
something we just eluded
00:30:34.93\00:30:36.73
to a moment ago. We're
talking about the harvest
00:30:36.76\00:30:39.21
to the gathering time; we're
living in a very interesting
00:30:39.24\00:30:43.91
time the gathering
before the Lord comes
00:30:43.94\00:30:46.53
it's gonna be a
tremendous gathering
00:30:46.56\00:30:48.09
and the Bible refers
to that as the harvest.
00:30:48.12\00:30:51.59
Umm! Umm! And so
we're gonna walk through
00:30:51.62\00:30:53.42
a couple things in
the scripture to see
00:30:53.45\00:30:54.62
how important it is
when it occurs, what it is,
00:30:54.65\00:30:57.82
what it is not,
what is Jesus' view,
00:30:57.85\00:31:00.56
what's the Old
Testament and New Testament
00:31:00.59\00:31:03.66
say about the harvest,
that we believe is soon
00:31:03.69\00:31:07.49
to come. And the
harvest as it's mentioned
00:31:07.52\00:31:10.53
in the Bible or the
gathering in other words that
00:31:10.56\00:31:12.56
are used here are
always in the context
00:31:12.59\00:31:14.58
of the second coming
of Jesus Christ. Right.
00:31:14.61\00:31:17.23
And so the harvest
is gathered in prior,
00:31:17.26\00:31:21.07
just prior to the
second coming of Jesus Christ,
00:31:21.10\00:31:23.05
so when he does come
it's there ready to go.
00:31:23.08\00:31:26.00
Umm! Umm! And in fact
at the very end of time,
00:31:26.03\00:31:28.68
we find that even angles
are involved in the harvesting
00:31:28.71\00:31:32.65
not in the sense
for sharing the gospel,
00:31:32.68\00:31:34.36
but in finally pulling
things together, so they can go.
00:31:34.39\00:31:37.26
That's right. Come
down to help play your part
00:31:37.29\00:31:39.42
as a resurrection
occurs to gather them and
00:31:39.45\00:31:41.29
pull them together with
Christ or to Christ as First
00:31:41.32\00:31:45.01
Thessalonians 4, First
Thessalonians 4 talks about
00:31:45.04\00:31:47.37
so that we could all go
to heaven that seeds together
00:31:47.40\00:31:50.34
would be Christ to
live with him forever.
00:31:50.37\00:31:51.68
So, thinking that
context, we're waiting for Jesus
00:31:51.71\00:31:54.91
second coming. His
soon return and that harvest
00:31:54.94\00:31:59.16
is being gathered
together and we're gonna look
00:31:59.19\00:32:01.70
at some scriptures
here about how that harvest
00:32:01.73\00:32:03.40
comes together,
what our work is as God's
00:32:03.43\00:32:06.53
people getting
that harvest ready.
00:32:06.56\00:32:08.61
Okay, and you know this,
this idea about a harvest
00:32:08.64\00:32:11.24
is not just in the
New Testament teaching,
00:32:11.27\00:32:14.57
but it's in Old
Testament, the foundation that
00:32:14.60\00:32:16.41
is in the Old
Testament. They are the seasons
00:32:16.44\00:32:18.55
of harvest. They
called the first fruit,
00:32:18.58\00:32:20.20
the way of the sheep
offering, all these that
00:32:20.23\00:32:23.05
will presented to the Lord
in the ceremony of services.
00:32:23.08\00:32:26.39
Also the harvest of
how to plant and what you
00:32:26.42\00:32:28.99
have to skip planting
the year of jubilee all these
00:32:29.02\00:32:32.15
things fitting into
that. But what we gonna start
00:32:32.18\00:32:34.87
with is focusing on,
who is the one in charge
00:32:34.90\00:32:38.45
of the harvest and I
think those of you are
00:32:38.48\00:32:41.01
very quick on your of
feet. You understand exactly,
00:32:41.04\00:32:44.19
who that is? Turn with
us to the Book of Mathew,
00:32:44.22\00:32:46.07
Mathew Chapter 3
and we're gonna look
00:32:46.10\00:32:48.41
at verse 11 to 13 and
John I'll have you read
00:32:48.44\00:32:52.06
that and walk us through that.
00:32:52.09\00:32:53.72
Mathews Chapter 3
verse 11 to 13 seeing exactly
00:32:53.75\00:32:59.53
who in fact is in
charge of the harvest and you
00:32:59.56\00:33:02.85
will read as you read
this you will discover
00:33:02.88\00:33:04.47
Jesus is being
introduced by someone.
00:33:04.50\00:33:07.22
You want which reference now.
00:33:07.25\00:33:09.41
Yeah, the first one
Mathew Chapter 3 verse 11 to 13.
00:33:09.44\00:33:12.87
Yeah, okay, let me
turn here. Okay, it's says:
00:33:13.36\00:33:17.15
I indeed baptize you
with water unto repentance:
00:33:17.18\00:33:20.08
now this is John
the baptist talking,
00:33:20.11\00:33:21.40
I baptize you with
water unto repentance.
00:33:21.43\00:33:24.22
Umm! Umm! But he
who is coming after me
00:33:24.25\00:33:26.19
is mightier than I,
whose sandals I am not worthy
00:33:26.22\00:33:28.84
to carry. He will
baptize you with the Holy Spirit
00:33:28.87\00:33:32.49
and fire. Umm! Umm!
00:33:32.52\00:33:34.71
"His winnowin"
fan is in His hand,
00:33:34.74\00:33:37.47
and He will thoroughly
clean out His threshing floor,
00:33:37.50\00:33:40.34
and gather His
wheat into the barn;
00:33:40.37\00:33:42.59
but He will burn up
the chaff with unquenchable
00:33:43.54\00:33:46.70
fire." Then Jesus came
from Galilee to the John
00:33:46.73\00:33:50.35
at the Jordan to
be baptized by him.
00:33:50.38\00:33:52.08
So, John this is talking
about the one who is to come.
00:33:52.11\00:33:56.33
Right. Is John the
Baptist says being Jesus Christ.
00:33:56.36\00:33:59.12
Right. Is going to
do the work of getting
00:34:00.35\00:34:02.01
things ready. That's
right, gathering the wheat
00:34:02.04\00:34:04.62
into the barn and
what you will discover,
00:34:04.65\00:34:08.41
now I want you to
pay particular attention
00:34:08.44\00:34:10.55
to the things that
are being gathered. Yes.
00:34:10.58\00:34:12.71
Because they have
some great significance,
00:34:13.53\00:34:14.99
we know that, the
winnowing fan and let me
00:34:15.02\00:34:18.50
just illustrate the
whole function of the
00:34:18.53\00:34:20.13
winnowing fan. Some
people talked about the
00:34:20.16\00:34:22.73
threshing floors
with the wheat and tear
00:34:22.76\00:34:25.83
were separated. The
wheat has more substance
00:34:25.86\00:34:27.97
more weight to it
granules. But the tears
00:34:28.00\00:34:30.80
are kind of like, when
you open a peanut shell.
00:34:30.83\00:34:32.68
I have you to open
the peanut shell then you
00:34:33.91\00:34:35.13
sometimes see a
little red soft covering over
00:34:35.16\00:34:38.52
the peanut itself. You
go this, you blow it away
00:34:38.55\00:34:41.37
then you eat the
peanut. Well, that is not the
00:34:41.40\00:34:43.43
part that you eat the
little sac that surrounds
00:34:43.46\00:34:46.88
the peanuts. You
don't eat the shell either,
00:34:46.91\00:34:48.52
you eat the peanut
that is the final product
00:34:48.55\00:34:50.28
that you get to. The
threshing floor is about
00:34:50.31\00:34:52.39
to break that lose.
Exactly and because it is in the
00:34:52.42\00:34:55.43
threshing floor
and the winnowing fan.
00:34:55.46\00:34:57.93
A fan is used to
blow things away,
00:34:57.96\00:34:59.45
so whatever is
lightened without any weight
00:34:59.48\00:35:01.56
gets blown away
that which has substance
00:35:01.59\00:35:04.66
stays and so that's
not the people of God need
00:35:04.69\00:35:07.24
to be a people of the
word. The people of substance
00:35:07.27\00:35:09.61
because one of the
things that causes us
00:35:09.64\00:35:11.63
not to be, not too last
during the separating time,
00:35:11.66\00:35:15.58
during the time
when everything that can
00:35:15.61\00:35:18.22
be blown away
will be blown away.
00:35:18.25\00:35:19.81
I am using that
phrase is when we are not
00:35:19.84\00:35:22.95
grounded on Gods word.
When our experiences that,
00:35:22.98\00:35:25.62
which is just light
and fluffy you have to have
00:35:25.65\00:35:28.58
some solid
foundation, so you would not get
00:35:28.61\00:35:30.52
blown away. Now, there
is something in this verse
00:35:30.55\00:35:32.76
that I think we got to
point out really quick.
00:35:32.79\00:35:34.90
Okay. I would
almost ask, you know,
00:35:34.93\00:35:36.56
you always say push
the record button. Okay.
00:35:39.57\00:35:40.54
You are getting
these. I'm not gonna say
00:35:40.55\00:35:41.57
push the record
button because it's already
00:35:41.60\00:35:42.95
been pushed, but
what I like to do is have
00:35:42.98\00:35:44.91
them get a piece
of paper out. Okay.
00:35:44.94\00:35:46.70
And draw line and
plug a few of these
00:35:46.73\00:35:49.33
things in because
there are some events
00:35:49.36\00:35:51.02
that are
transpiring here in sequence.
00:35:51.05\00:35:53.04
Okay. And I think a
proper understanding of the
00:35:53.07\00:35:55.74
sequence of the
gathering the harvest,
00:35:55.77\00:35:57.57
the burning of the
tares. All those things,
00:35:57.60\00:36:00.57
if we understand
that we can see where
00:36:00.60\00:36:02.29
Jesus comes, where
those things happen
00:36:02.32\00:36:04.09
and that in fact what
it flushes out is the false
00:36:04.12\00:36:07.17
teaching of the rapture. Okay.
00:36:07.20\00:36:09.84
It does not fit. Okay.
00:36:09.87\00:36:11.28
In the gathering and
the preparation of the
00:36:11.31\00:36:12.89
harvest and Christ
returning to gather
00:36:12.92\00:36:14.46
that harvest
together. That's, that's, that's
00:36:14.49\00:36:16.72
very interesting.
So, in this time line as
00:36:16.75\00:36:18.63
you get this piece of
paper. Let's start plug
00:36:18.66\00:36:20.29
in these things in,
so we have a harvest that
00:36:20.32\00:36:23.87
Christ wants to
gather together. He involves
00:36:23.90\00:36:27.32
us as his workers. Umm! Umm!
00:36:27.35\00:36:29.59
Okay and we will
see how we laboring in
00:36:29.62\00:36:30.96
the vineyard and
other things going on here
00:36:30.99\00:36:32.32
in some other
verses here coming up, but
00:36:32.35\00:36:35.32
in this verse here
it says, that Jesus will
00:36:35.35\00:36:40.22
baptize by the Holy
Spirit in fire and then
00:36:40.25\00:36:43.89
he is talking about
he is involved in that
00:36:43.92\00:36:45.60
threshing floor that
cleaning out using the
00:36:45.63\00:36:47.66
winnowing fan,
the purge away. You
00:36:47.69\00:36:49.40
already talk about
that, but then he says
00:36:49.43\00:36:50.67
something interesting.
He's going to gather
00:36:50.70\00:36:53.19
his wheat into
the barn. Umm! Umm!
00:36:53.22\00:36:55.59
But He will burn
up the chaff with
00:36:55.62\00:36:58.68
unquenchable fire.
Right. There is clearly two
00:36:58.71\00:37:01.80
things here, there
are the wheat, which are
00:37:01.83\00:37:04.21
God's people,
his saints. Umm! Umm!
00:37:04.24\00:37:05.94
There is the chaff or
other places will see,
00:37:05.97\00:37:08.40
it is the tares, the
wheat as well that are
00:37:08.43\00:37:11.81
left behind that are burned with
00:37:11.84\00:37:13.13
unquenchable fire. Now, this is
00:37:13.16\00:37:14.60
unquenchable fire is
the fire that cannot be
00:37:14.63\00:37:16.64
put out, it's not
that it last forever
00:37:16.67\00:37:18.36
Right. This is hard
enough, where it cannot be put
00:37:18.39\00:37:20.40
out, now we read, we
read that here. That's
00:37:20.43\00:37:23.55
kind of an open
introduction here, but
00:37:23.58\00:37:24.86
turn with me to
Isaiah 24. Because I would
00:37:24.89\00:37:27.20
like to bring a
little more clarification as
00:37:27.23\00:37:28.45
to what happens here.
Okay. The sequence of time.
00:37:28.48\00:37:31.70
Let's go to Isaiah
24. I know John you're
00:37:31.73\00:37:34.70
not gonna bounce
around, we start feed
00:37:34.73\00:37:36.37
enough and just
really going, but this is
00:37:36.40\00:37:38.53
some that's exciting.
Okay, we are at Isaiah
00:37:38.56\00:37:42.82
24. What verse
John. Starting with 21.
00:37:42.85\00:37:46.69
24:21, okay write
that down. Don't forget
00:37:46.72\00:37:52.57
Isaiah 24:21 and 22.
00:37:52.60\00:37:54.69
21 and 22. It
says: It shall come
00:37:54.72\00:37:57.40
to pass in that day
that the LORD will punish
00:37:57.43\00:38:00.20
on high the host
of exalted ones and on
00:38:00.23\00:38:03.23
the earth the kings
of the earth. They will
00:38:03.26\00:38:05.91
be gathered
together, okay so there is a
00:38:05.94\00:38:08.59
couple of
gatherings here John there is a
00:38:08.62\00:38:10.46
gathering of the
saints, but there is
00:38:10.49\00:38:12.77
also a gathering of
the wicked. You see that,
00:38:12.80\00:38:15.38
this is speaking of
the gathering of the wicked
00:38:15.41\00:38:17.99
That's right.
And it says in verse
00:38:18.02\00:38:19.55
22 it goes on: as
prisoners are gathered
00:38:19.58\00:38:21.93
in the pit and will
be shut up in the prison;
00:38:21.96\00:38:26.18
after many days they
will be punished. So,
00:38:26.21\00:38:29.63
they're gathered
together, but they're
00:38:29.66\00:38:32.08
held there. Then after
many days they're punished.
00:38:32.11\00:38:35.91
Right. So, plug that
in what we just read from
00:38:35.94\00:38:38.12
Matthew 3 the wheat
and tares are gathered
00:38:38.15\00:38:40.99
each separately
together. There is the
00:38:41.02\00:38:44.48
time period before
the tares or chaff is
00:38:44.51\00:38:47.41
burned, what
time period could we
00:38:47.44\00:38:50.05
possibly be
talking about. Before that
00:38:50.08\00:38:52.13
lake of fire,
that burning quench or
00:38:52.16\00:38:55.31
completely eradicates
the tares or the chaff
00:38:55.34\00:38:58.58
from after being
gathered. The millennium.
00:38:58.61\00:39:01.54
The millennium. That's right.
00:39:01.57\00:39:03.06
It's got to be
the thousand years.
00:39:03.09\00:39:04.44
That's right. And
you will find that
00:39:04.47\00:39:05.95
in Revelation
Chapter 20 and I don't know
00:39:05.98\00:39:07.39
how much time we
have to view to go
00:39:07.42\00:39:08.77
thoroughly into
this. But in Revelation
00:39:08.80\00:39:10.23
Chapter 20, it
introduces several
00:39:10.26\00:39:12.90
things that are the
same language here in
00:39:12.93\00:39:15.24
this first two texts
that we read. There is a
00:39:15.27\00:39:17.00
pit, that pit is of
course the biss. The
00:39:17.03\00:39:20.71
bottom of the pit is
the biss, a broken torn
00:39:20.74\00:39:23.38
down earth, if you
read earlier in these
00:39:23.41\00:39:25.36
Isaiah Chapter 24
verses 19 and 20: it
00:39:25.39\00:39:27.36
talks about
earth being violently
00:39:27.39\00:39:28.51
broken up with the
earth or that, that pit
00:39:28.54\00:39:32.36
of weightlessness is
left there for savings
00:39:32.39\00:39:36.55
his angles to
dwell and have it for
00:39:36.58\00:39:38.39
thousand years. Well
no one else is live at
00:39:38.42\00:39:41.30
the second coming of
Jesus it says that all
00:39:41.33\00:39:43.83
those who are not
his saints will perish.
00:39:43.86\00:39:46.23
That's right.
They will die, they
00:39:46.26\00:39:47.73
will be at, but no
one will do anything with
00:39:47.76\00:39:50.08
them. There are
not gonna be burned
00:39:50.11\00:39:51.39
forever that time.
They just died at the
00:39:51.42\00:39:53.01
brightness of his
coming, but after that
00:39:53.04\00:39:54.87
thousands years.
After many days it just says
00:39:54.90\00:39:57.27
here. Umm! Umm!
Then you see at the
00:39:57.30\00:39:59.56
end of Revelation 20,
then the lake of fire is
00:39:59.59\00:40:02.19
kindled and they
will be burned. In fact
00:40:02.22\00:40:05.72
toward the end of
Revelation 20, it says:
00:40:05.75\00:40:07.31
Satan who was revived
gathers together all the
00:40:07.34\00:40:11.69
people. Right, he goes
out to. To attack the city
00:40:11.72\00:40:14.11
and that's when the lake
of fire comes out, so this
00:40:14.14\00:40:16.77
gathering, the pit
that's there fix the
00:40:16.80\00:40:18.80
earth. The after
many days, the thousand
00:40:18.83\00:40:21.75
years, it's all
there. Good connection.
00:40:21.78\00:40:23.99
Timeframe, I think
we need to understand
00:40:24.02\00:40:25.35
that timeframe, so
we can see, where the
00:40:25.38\00:40:28.29
second coming
of Christ comes and
00:40:28.32\00:40:29.95
when the wicked are
finally or the chaff
00:40:29.98\00:40:31.58
and the tares are
finally disposed off
00:40:31.61\00:40:33.35
Umm! Umm! And you
will also discover
00:40:33.38\00:40:35.37
that before that
final gathering, which is
00:40:35.40\00:40:37.02
gonna be done by
the angles of God. He is
00:40:37.05\00:40:39.52
gonna send forth
his angles, we will read
00:40:39.55\00:40:41.21
that in just a
moment here and I think we
00:40:41.24\00:40:43.38
may contribute,
maybe more than one
00:40:43.41\00:40:44.63
program to this topic
because this is a very
00:40:44.66\00:40:46.40
in depth topic,
but when God begins to,
00:40:46.43\00:40:49.11
when Jesus comes
back. There is gonna
00:40:49.14\00:40:51.33
be a determination
then a gathering out
00:40:51.36\00:40:55.43
here in the mid
west we have a lot of
00:40:55.46\00:40:56.76
farming and sometimes as you
00:40:56.79\00:40:58.45
drive by and you
can see freshly mode
00:40:58.48\00:41:00.29
acreage. But then
you see these big rolls,
00:41:00.32\00:41:03.42
bails of hay that
are beautifully put
00:41:03.45\00:41:06.28
together, but
then after a week or so
00:41:06.31\00:41:08.57
goes by or two
weeks you go out there and
00:41:08.60\00:41:10.55
just see the big
ground, but no bails
00:41:10.58\00:41:12.78
to hay, no wheat
that's been gathered
00:41:12.81\00:41:14.74
together and you
actually stop the
00:41:14.77\00:41:16.23
question what happened to them.
00:41:16.26\00:41:17.53
Well the answer is
obvious, somebody is
00:41:17.56\00:41:19.58
come by to pick
them up. Well the Lord is
00:41:19.61\00:41:21.56
gonna do the same thing
before destruction. He is
00:41:21.59\00:41:24.96
gonna gather his
wheat and then the
00:41:24.99\00:41:27.39
tares are going to
be gathered and you will
00:41:27.42\00:41:29.27
discover exactly.
Matter of fact, I will
00:41:29.30\00:41:31.10
show you Matthew
Chapter 12 because
00:41:31.13\00:41:32.95
we have a part to
play in the gathering not
00:41:32.98\00:41:35.04
only the angles,
but each of us has the
00:41:35.07\00:41:38.33
workers of Christ,
each of us has a part
00:41:38.36\00:41:40.59
to play and when you
begin you look at the
00:41:40.62\00:41:42.63
Matthew chapter 12
and verse 30 and you
00:41:42.66\00:41:45.40
will see what I
mean. Matthew 12 and verse
00:41:45.43\00:41:50.25
30 and Jesus says
"He who is not with Me is
00:41:50.28\00:41:54.80
against Me, and he
who does not gather
00:41:54.83\00:41:58.18
with Me scatters
abroad. So, you have
00:41:58.21\00:42:01.65
to understand that
either we are working
00:42:01.68\00:42:03.53
for the saving of
souls or we're scattering
00:42:03.56\00:42:06.40
people away from Christ.
00:42:06.43\00:42:07.96
And the interesting
thing to me is that scattering
00:42:07.99\00:42:10.07
Yeah. Only leave
Satan to gather them.
00:42:10.10\00:42:12.38
That's exactly the
point. And so the part that's
00:42:12.41\00:42:15.24
being gathered
first are the saints.
00:42:15.27\00:42:18.09
Umm! Umm! And that's the work
00:42:18.12\00:42:19.82
we are involved
with. One chapter over
00:42:19.85\00:42:21.57
John, I like how
you say with that one
00:42:21.60\00:42:23.13
chapter over in Matthew 13.
00:42:23.16\00:42:24.66
That's right, that's right.
00:42:24.69\00:42:25.96
You look at verse 30 here
I'm looking right out at it
00:42:25.99\00:42:29.97
Okay, go ahead
and read that one.
00:42:30.00\00:42:31.59
Let both grow together until the
00:42:31.62\00:42:34.06
harvest and at the
time of the harvest I
00:42:34.09\00:42:35.92
will say to the
reapers, Matthew 12:30: "First
00:42:35.95\00:42:39.14
gather together the
tares and bind them in bundles
00:42:39.17\00:42:42.47
to burn them, but
gather the wheat into
00:42:42.50\00:42:46.01
my barn." So, it
appears to say first that the
00:42:46.04\00:42:49.54
gathering together
are the tares, but this is
00:42:49.57\00:42:52.04
talking with the second
coming of Jesus. The tares
00:42:52.07\00:42:54.70
is only gathered
together to burn them later.
00:42:54.73\00:42:57.63
That's right. We
already read that from Isaiah.
00:42:57.66\00:42:59.83
Umm! Umm! The
first to enter in or
00:42:59.86\00:43:02.19
the first gathered
and that receive some,
00:43:02.22\00:43:04.44
some reward, whether
it would be a good or
00:43:04.47\00:43:07.16
bad reward or the
wheat because they
00:43:07.19\00:43:10.39
put into the barn. That's right.
00:43:10.42\00:43:12.62
So, there gathered
put right into the barn of
00:43:12.65\00:43:15.53
course where is the
barn? The Lord in heaven.
00:43:15.56\00:43:17.65
That's the Lord
House. So, he takes,
00:43:17.68\00:43:20.23
he takes the wheat,
he gathers it together.
00:43:20.26\00:43:22.38
Separate the tares
from it first, sets them
00:43:22.41\00:43:25.04
aside, but takes
that wheat and gathers it
00:43:25.07\00:43:27.43
and then at the
second coming he receives
00:43:27.46\00:43:29.88
them to himself, so
that they can be where he is.
00:43:29.91\00:43:32.22
Umm! In heaven and
the wicked then are left,
00:43:32.25\00:43:35.27
gathered are left to
burn at the later date
00:43:35.30\00:43:38.14
after many days.
And you know John,
00:43:38.17\00:43:40.37
as you, as you
point that out. The beauty
00:43:40.40\00:43:42.29
of that picture as
it comes together and I
00:43:42.32\00:43:43.95
hope you will
follow us. Because we are
00:43:43.98\00:43:45.42
painting a picture
with statements of the
00:43:45.45\00:43:47.71
word of God and I
wanna just encourage
00:43:47.74\00:43:49.19
because sometimes
people say well that
00:43:49.22\00:43:50.35
your interpretation
or you say I want you to
00:43:50.38\00:43:53.28
understand that what
we say we are reading
00:43:53.31\00:43:54.90
the scriptures and
somebody said to me.
00:43:54.93\00:43:56.82
You say there is
neither is June or
00:43:56.85\00:43:59.46
Greek, June or gentile, you know
00:43:59.49\00:44:02.09
June or Greek, born
or female nor female.
00:44:02.12\00:44:04.08
One of the fact what we
are communicating to you
00:44:04.11\00:44:06.02
is what the word God
says and in this case
00:44:06.05\00:44:07.80
you will discover
that yes there is gonna be
00:44:07.83\00:44:10.01
gathering together,
there gonna be wheat
00:44:10.04\00:44:11.73
and there gonna be
tares. But not let's
00:44:11.76\00:44:14.05
give the bigger
picture, before there is
00:44:14.08\00:44:17.11
a ripping, there
is a sowing. Umm! Yes.
00:44:17.14\00:44:20.75
Before there is a
ripping, there is a
00:44:20.78\00:44:22.20
sowing, before
there is sowing there is a
00:44:22.23\00:44:24.20
preparation time
for sowing, there is a
00:44:24.23\00:44:26.94
preparation time for
the harvest and so you
00:44:26.97\00:44:30.22
have all these
seasons. You have the rainy
00:44:32.52\00:44:33.49
season before the
sowing, then you have
00:44:33.50\00:44:35.13
the dry season,
then you have the rainy
00:44:35.16\00:44:37.10
season before the
harvest that's called
00:44:37.13\00:44:39.27
the early rain and later rain.
00:44:39.30\00:44:41.56
I was gonna say, he's
got a water, he's got a
00:44:41.59\00:44:44.39
water, he is
vineyard somehow here to get
00:44:44.42\00:44:46.35
the harvest ready.
And farmers like rain.
00:44:46.38\00:44:48.44
Umm! They don't like floods.
00:44:48.47\00:44:50.28
Right. They like rain
and the Midwest we have
00:44:50.31\00:44:52.82
some of the greenest
land because the rain
00:44:52.85\00:44:54.99
comes and if we
don't have that rain, we
00:44:55.02\00:44:58.49
won't have the
crops that we need. If the
00:44:58.52\00:45:00.42
rain doesn't come
after the cold winter
00:45:00.45\00:45:02.53
months to soften the
ground then it's gonna
00:45:02.56\00:45:04.53
be hard for the farmers to sow.
00:45:04.56\00:45:06.31
In the early
rain Germany makes the
00:45:06.34\00:45:08.98
seed, as we know. Oh! Exactly.
00:45:09.01\00:45:10.25
It's ready to begin
to grow, the later rain
00:45:10.28\00:45:12.13
gives that last push
of watering it needs for
00:45:12.16\00:45:16.57
the harvest to be
tasty and fruitful and to be
00:45:16.60\00:45:19.19
a successful
harvest. Makes it, it seals in
00:45:19.22\00:45:22.29
the flavor, right,
the good way to pick out
00:45:22.32\00:45:24.00
and you know John you are from
00:45:24.03\00:45:25.12
California, you
lived up in Upper Napa
00:45:25.15\00:45:26.76
Valley for lot of
years, so you know
00:45:26.79\00:45:29.81
that right down
there the farmers look for,
00:45:29.84\00:45:31.75
they look for the.
If the rain didn't come,
00:45:31.78\00:45:34.10
it will be a terrible
crop. Umm! But if it rain too
00:45:34.13\00:45:36.77
much saturating, that's
why let me just put this
00:45:36.80\00:45:39.76
in and I think this is
a very good illustration.
00:45:39.79\00:45:42.34
We have to be, we
have to be timely in
00:45:42.37\00:45:45.40
our approaches to the
sharing of the gospel.
00:45:45.43\00:45:47.89
We can't saturate
people with it because
00:45:47.92\00:45:50.35
sometimes they will drown in it.
00:45:50.38\00:45:51.55
Umm! Umm! We have to
understand there is a
00:45:51.58\00:45:52.62
time pray for God
to soften the heart, so
00:45:52.65\00:45:56.09
the seed could be
planted. So the people
00:45:56.12\00:45:58.39
of God should be
praying always for the
00:45:58.42\00:46:00.13
seed to be
planted for the hard to be
00:46:00.16\00:46:02.78
softened and in
Matthew 13, that you
00:46:02.81\00:46:04.92
just suggested there
is this parable there of
00:46:04.95\00:46:09.06
the wheat and the tares and what
00:46:09.09\00:46:11.40
happens to the
tares and what happens to
00:46:11.43\00:46:13.27
the wheat and what
happens to the seed
00:46:13.30\00:46:15.74
and who the sow is
and so before we even
00:46:15.77\00:46:18.24
get down to the
harvest. Let's break
00:46:18.27\00:46:20.53
those components
down. Umm! Umm! To find out
00:46:20.56\00:46:23.19
exactly, what Jesus is
talking about? When he talks
00:46:23.22\00:46:27.74
about the wheat and
the tares, the harvest,
00:46:29.51\00:46:30.48
the devil all that.
The Lord just part of
00:46:30.49\00:46:31.86
Matthew 13, I think
you are talking about,
00:46:31.89\00:46:33.60
you know, the sowing
and the sower and all
00:46:33.63\00:46:35.27
those things, right.
Okay, matter of fact,
00:46:35.30\00:46:37.59
when it starts out
he says: what verse
00:46:37.62\00:46:41.63
should we read.
Start with 3, I guess sir.
00:46:41.66\00:46:43.67
Matthew, okay yeah,
great, great location.
00:46:43.70\00:46:46.56
13 verse 3. Why don't
you go and read that for
00:46:46.59\00:46:48.43
us John. This is then he
spoke many things to them
00:46:48.46\00:46:50.68
speaking of Jesus
in parable saying.
00:46:50.71\00:46:52.76
"Behold, the
sower went out to sow.
00:46:52.79\00:46:55.02
Okay. and as he
sowed, some seeds fell by the
00:46:55.05\00:46:58.79
way side, and the birds came and
00:46:58.82\00:47:00.15
devoured them: Some
fell on stony places,
00:47:00.18\00:47:03.82
where they did not
have much earth; and
00:47:03.85\00:47:06.54
they immediately
sprang up because
00:47:06.57\00:47:08.42
they had no depth
of earth. Umm! Umm! But
00:47:08.45\00:47:10.72
when the sun was up
and they were scorched: and
00:47:10.75\00:47:13.93
because they had no
root, they withered away. And
00:47:13.96\00:47:16.22
some fell among
thorns; and the thorns
00:47:16.25\00:47:19.36
sprung up, and choked them: but
00:47:19.39\00:47:21.42
others fell on good
ground and yielded a
00:47:21.45\00:47:23.95
crop, some a hundredfold,
some sixty, some thirty. He
00:47:23.98\00:47:28.65
who has ears to
hear, let him hear?
00:47:28.68\00:47:31.40
Okay. What it says
the disciples where kind
00:47:31.43\00:47:34.59
of confused with
this? Umm! Umm! But the main
00:47:34.62\00:47:36.67
thing about this
parable is that Jesus actually
00:47:36.70\00:47:38.98
gives the
definition. He gives the
00:47:39.01\00:47:41.09
interpretation,
start with verse 37. Now
00:47:41.12\00:47:43.45
let's go through
each one and if you notice
00:47:43.48\00:47:45.05
that the parable
begins by introducing
00:47:45.08\00:47:47.65
a sower and then
he introduces what is
00:47:47.68\00:47:50.55
being sowed. Go
ahead to verse 37 John.
00:47:50.58\00:47:52.93
Verse 37, so we
answer their questions here,
00:47:52.96\00:47:55.27
it says: "He who
sows the good seed is
00:47:55.30\00:47:57.47
the Son of Man."
Okay, so the sower is Jesus.
00:47:57.50\00:48:00.66
Jesus. That's
right. So, now here is the
00:48:00.69\00:48:02.41
beauty of this
because a lot of us think that
00:48:02.44\00:48:04.17
we are doing the
work, but in fact Paul
00:48:04.20\00:48:06.37
said it right he
will finish the work.
00:48:06.40\00:48:08.82
Right. We're involved.
And he is the finisher.
00:48:08.85\00:48:11.43
Say it again. He
is the author and he
00:48:11.46\00:48:13.11
is the finisher. Okay,
there it is. Let's go to
00:48:13.14\00:48:14.60
the next one. The
field is the world.
00:48:14.63\00:48:17.20
Okay. The good
seeds are the sons of the
00:48:17.23\00:48:20.51
kingdom, but the
tares of the sons of the
00:48:20.54\00:48:22.93
wicked one. The enemy who sowed
00:48:22.96\00:48:26.37
them is the devil,
the harvest is the end of
00:48:26.40\00:48:30.04
the age; and the
reapers are angels.
00:48:30.07\00:48:32.27
You see, I said,
you remember we talk
00:48:32.30\00:48:33.94
about the angles
being involved in the work.
00:48:33.97\00:48:35.34
Therefore as the
tares are gathered and
00:48:35.37\00:48:37.83
burned in the fire,
so it will at the end of
00:48:37.86\00:48:40.65
this age. Umm!
Umm! The Son of Man will
00:48:40.68\00:48:43.12
send out angels,
his angles and they will
00:48:43.15\00:48:45.17
gather out of His
kingdom all things
00:48:45.20\00:48:47.28
that offend and
those who practice
00:48:47.31\00:48:49.45
lawlessness, and
will cast them into the
00:48:49.48\00:48:51.70
furnace of fire.
There will be wailing and
00:48:51.73\00:48:54.88
gnashing of teeth.
So, you see clearly
00:48:54.91\00:48:58.18
that this
definition when it talks about
00:48:58.21\00:49:02.79
the sower, the
wheat, the tares. It gives
00:49:02.82\00:49:06.15
definition, you
will also discover when
00:49:06.18\00:49:08.67
we go back, we're
gonna look at another
00:49:08.70\00:49:10.59
aspect of this
definition because we
00:49:10.62\00:49:13.12
saw right away,
the one who sows is the
00:49:13.15\00:49:15.63
son of man, the seed
are is the word of God
00:49:15.66\00:49:19.36
we will discover
that as we go to another
00:49:19.39\00:49:20.91
passage here and as a
matter of fact go with
00:49:20.94\00:49:23.18
us, go with us, to
verse 18 of Matthew
00:49:23.21\00:49:29.49
chapter 13, let's
look it again. Verse 18 of
00:49:29.52\00:49:35.06
Matthew Chapter
13, you read that again
00:49:37.06\00:49:38.03
for us John. Therefore, hear the
00:49:38.04\00:49:39.11
parable of the
sower: When anyone hears
00:49:39.14\00:49:42.01
the word of the
kingdom and doesn't
00:49:42.04\00:49:43.83
understand it, then
the wicked would comes
00:49:43.86\00:49:45.97
and snatches away
what was sown in the
00:49:46.00\00:49:48.52
heart this is he who
receive seed by the way side.
00:49:48.55\00:49:51.87
Okay, so Matthew 13
verse 4 is defined in
00:49:51.90\00:49:55.64
Matthew 13 verse 18 and 19.
00:49:55.67\00:49:58.19
That right. When the
word of God is sown and what
00:49:58.22\00:50:03.08
you wanna catch
here is this John. Very
00:50:03.11\00:50:05.13
important, when the
word of God is sown,
00:50:05.16\00:50:06.85
it almost elude to
the fact that before a
00:50:06.88\00:50:09.31
person understands
that the devil comes
00:50:09.34\00:50:10.70
by and takes it
away when they were
00:50:10.73\00:50:11.84
undecided. Umm!
Umm! But the suggestion
00:50:11.87\00:50:13.50
here is not
necessarily the truth of the
00:50:13.53\00:50:16.08
picture, what it is
when the ground is not ready
00:50:16.11\00:50:19.76
to receive it. When the
ground rejects it, it doesn't
00:50:19.79\00:50:24.96
take root. It doesn't
find a place to anchor
00:50:24.99\00:50:27.81
itself therefore it
is left to be snatched
00:50:27.84\00:50:30.59
away and here is
the danger there. When a
00:50:30.62\00:50:33.32
person is sitting
under tutelage or the voice
00:50:33.35\00:50:36.75
of a teacher or preacher
and they rejecting what is
00:50:36.78\00:50:39.62
going out. It finds
no place to bury itself
00:50:39.65\00:50:42.69
and it stays on the
surface and that which they
00:50:42.72\00:50:45.39
could have received to
bring understanding never
00:50:45.42\00:50:49.65
brings understanding
because they rejected and there
00:50:49.68\00:50:52.41
is no fruit that
will come out of that.
00:50:52.44\00:50:54.84
You know John that
we have, we have all
00:50:54.87\00:50:56.65
done this,
where we have given an
00:50:56.68\00:50:58.95
evangelistic seminar.
Yeah. Or we've talk the
00:50:58.98\00:51:01.73
word of God and
we've brought the
00:51:01.76\00:51:03.81
word to them and
there has been a level
00:51:03.84\00:51:06.15
of conviction. But
then they take what
00:51:06.18\00:51:08.91
began in their
heart and their goal maybe
00:51:08.94\00:51:10.89
to another pastor or
the pastor from their
00:51:10.92\00:51:13.07
churches someone
else who says, oh! no,
00:51:13.10\00:51:15.16
that's not right,
that's not what you saying.
00:51:15.19\00:51:17.50
You know, stay
away from that and we
00:51:17.53\00:51:19.08
don't want to follow
that and this not quite
00:51:19.11\00:51:20.97
right and it's then
that's when the enemy
00:51:21.00\00:51:24.40
comes in snatches
it away. They had a
00:51:24.43\00:51:26.01
chance, there was
an opportunity as they
00:51:26.04\00:51:28.82
heard the truth to
follow it, but they
00:51:28.85\00:51:30.93
didn't allow it to
really take root. They
00:51:32.36\00:51:33.71
allow the enemy
to come in and sway
00:51:33.74\00:51:35.44
them and pull them
away before it could
00:51:35.47\00:51:36.89
even go. Because it
says in verse 19, they hear
00:51:36.92\00:51:40.37
the word, if anyone,
anyone hears the word
00:51:40.40\00:51:42.87
of the kingdom and
does not understand it, and
00:51:42.90\00:51:46.30
when you continue
earlier if you go to the
00:51:46.33\00:51:48.79
verses before that
you will see why they
00:51:48.82\00:51:50.54
don't understand it,
you will say. Well, it
00:51:50.57\00:51:52.76
must have been hard for
them so it shouldn't be their
00:51:52.79\00:51:54.45
fault. But understand
the context of this; the
00:51:54.48\00:51:57.61
understanding is not
because it's difficult.
00:51:57.64\00:51:59.38
But they don't wanna
hear it, look at verse
00:51:59.41\00:52:01.49
14 and verse 15.
Listen to this and in
00:52:01.52\00:52:05.49
then the prophecy
of Isaiah is fulfilled,
00:52:05.52\00:52:07.74
Matthew 13 verse
14 and 15. Hearing you
00:52:07.77\00:52:11.71
will hear and shall
not understand and seeing
00:52:11.74\00:52:14.52
you will see and not
perceived, here is the
00:52:14.55\00:52:16.85
reason: For the
hearts of this people have
00:52:16.88\00:52:19.47
grown dull and
their ears are hard of
00:52:19.50\00:52:23.34
hearing and
their eyes, they have
00:52:23.37\00:52:26.05
closed, less they
should see with their
00:52:26.08\00:52:28.83
eyes and hear with
their ears. Let's they
00:52:28.86\00:52:31.92
should understand
with their hearts and
00:52:31.95\00:52:33.49
turn, so that I
should heal them. It's the
00:52:33.52\00:52:36.53
people that don't wanna hear it.
00:52:36.56\00:52:37.93
Umm! Umm! And you know John
00:52:37.96\00:52:39.69
what gets me so
much and you know I mean.
00:52:39.72\00:52:41.54
You are frustrated
in the same way, I think
00:52:41.57\00:52:43.58
anybody telling the
truth is frustrated in
00:52:43.61\00:52:45.28
this way. People
handle the truth as
00:52:45.31\00:52:47.74
though it's kind like
a merry go round. It's
00:52:47.77\00:52:49.32
just gonna keep coming around.
00:52:49.35\00:52:50.57
Umm! Umm! But they realize, they
00:52:50.60\00:52:53.08
fail to realize that
once again, I mention,
00:52:53.11\00:52:55.86
there is a, there is
a season, where the rain
00:52:55.89\00:52:57.97
comes to soften
the heart and when they
00:52:58.00\00:53:00.12
refuse to let the
seed be planted then. It's
00:53:00.15\00:53:03.73
nothing gonna grow,
when the later rain falls.
00:53:03.76\00:53:06.41
That's right. You cannot have a
00:53:06.44\00:53:08.53
harvest, if you
reject the time of planting
00:53:08.56\00:53:11.63
That's right, because
there is no germination,
00:53:11.66\00:53:13.53
there is nothing to
grow and to get sealed in.
00:53:13.56\00:53:16.19
Yeah, if your ground
is so hard, you won't
00:53:16.22\00:53:19.00
let the rains soften
it up. The farmers not
00:53:19.03\00:53:21.65
gonna comeback to
you looking for anything.
00:53:21.68\00:53:23.36
Umm! Umm! Because
there is nothing that ever
00:53:23.39\00:53:25.24
made any
accessible penetration in your
00:53:25.27\00:53:28.09
life and their
those who are saying I've
00:53:28.12\00:53:30.95
got time, I've got
time. That's why brethren or
00:53:30.98\00:53:35.22
ladies and gentlemen.
I'm getting to the preaching
00:53:35.25\00:53:37.59
mode now brethren.
That's why, those of you
00:53:37.62\00:53:39.55
watching this
program. When the word of God
00:53:39.58\00:53:41.59
comes to you and you
say, I don't want hear that or
00:53:41.62\00:53:46.16
I know what the
Adventist say, I know
00:53:46.19\00:53:48.40
what pastor John and
John say, but I don't,
00:53:48.43\00:53:50.68
that doesn't agree
with my denominational
00:53:50.71\00:53:52.39
teachings. It's a
dangerous thing to reject
00:53:52.42\00:53:55.03
the seed that's
being sown because remember
00:53:55.06\00:53:58.68
the seed that's being
sown is the word of God.
00:53:58.71\00:54:03.50
Yeah. The one doing
the sowing is in fact
00:54:03.53\00:54:06.09
Jesus, so it comes
to you because Jesus at
00:54:06.12\00:54:08.70
that moment says,
I'm gonna try to give it
00:54:08.73\00:54:10.76
you because you need
to write now and then
00:54:10.79\00:54:12.74
the heart rejects
it. A quick story, we
00:54:12.77\00:54:14.86
were out not this last weekend.
00:54:14.89\00:54:18.09
Umm! Umm! We're at the
Sabbath before, after we
00:54:18.12\00:54:21.27
had a fellowship
lunch in our church and we
00:54:21.30\00:54:24.12
went door to door
with the pray list and
00:54:24.15\00:54:26.81
we're asking our neighborhood.
00:54:26.84\00:54:29.15
Okay. If they had any
prayers if they like us
00:54:29.18\00:54:31.19
to share. Umm!
Umm! Well, we came up to
00:54:31.22\00:54:32.97
this one Gallas
house and we said we have a
00:54:33.00\00:54:35.87
pray list growing
and we like to be praying
00:54:35.90\00:54:37.75
for our neighborhood.
Is there are any prayers
00:54:37.78\00:54:39.84
that you have, that you
like us to be praying for
00:54:39.87\00:54:43.29
you and she says, she
says I don't know what you
00:54:43.32\00:54:47.57
guys pray and I
don't even know who you
00:54:47.60\00:54:50.76
pray to really, I
mean you know. I just there
00:54:50.79\00:54:53.08
always these
different churches out there.
00:54:53.11\00:54:54.74
She says I already
belong to a church. I said
00:54:54.77\00:54:57.86
well we are a church
that believes in Jesus,
00:54:57.89\00:55:00.67
who is the Son of God,
who is our savior, who you
00:55:00.70\00:55:02.60
know, this is, this
is main line protestant
00:55:02.63\00:55:06.52
beliefs and teachings.
She says yeah, but you know
00:55:06.55\00:55:08.94
I don't know, I don't
know if I want to, I don't want
00:55:08.97\00:55:10.79
to pray for you. And
I said and then we got,
00:55:10.82\00:55:14.83
somehow got in the
subject of what you
00:55:14.86\00:55:16.16
believe and I said
well Adventist believe
00:55:16.19\00:55:18.65
very much of many
other things that your
00:55:18.68\00:55:20.59
denomination teaches,
but there are few things
00:55:20.62\00:55:22.80
disagree with
because we believe God's word
00:55:22.83\00:55:24.87
says otherwise. Well,
what's one of those and
00:55:24.90\00:55:27.25
we said well. Let say
when you die, we don't
00:55:27.28\00:55:30.33
believe that you go
straight to heaven, we
00:55:30.36\00:55:31.98
believe you sleep
in the grave. Right.
00:55:32.01\00:55:33.30
Until Christ comes,
she says oh! well, how can
00:55:33.33\00:55:37.68
you believe that? I
don't believe that our church
00:55:37.71\00:55:39.45
doesn't teach that.
Umm! I said I believe it
00:55:39.48\00:55:42.21
because the Bible
says it. If you wanna
00:55:42.24\00:55:43.88
see it and she says.
Why I haven't read it
00:55:43.91\00:55:46.32
all yet. That was
an immediate response
00:55:46.35\00:55:49.30
I haven't read it all
yet. That's the danger John.
00:55:49.33\00:55:51.70
Yeah. Isn't that the
danger? That's exactly what.
00:55:51.73\00:55:53.78
The danger is that
they are listening to
00:55:53.81\00:55:55.22
their pastors, they
are listening to their
00:55:55.25\00:55:56.22
denominations, they
are listening to their
00:55:56.23\00:55:57.39
teachers in class
and they are not studying
00:55:57.42\00:55:59.61
the word of God for themselves.
00:55:59.64\00:56:00.95
Umm! Umm! And so when they
00:56:00.98\00:56:02.77
hear the word, when
it tries to be sowed they
00:56:02.80\00:56:05.27
just reject it because
you know what it doesn't fit.
00:56:05.30\00:56:07.71
Well, I haven't heard it
or doesn't fit like that.
00:56:07.74\00:56:09.94
I haven't heard
before, you know what
00:56:09.97\00:56:10.94
that's an ordinary belief.
Go to the word of God and
00:56:10.95\00:56:13.86
see what it says and
study it out for yourself.
00:56:13.89\00:56:16.94
To so many people it
is about the denomination,
00:56:16.97\00:56:20.29
about what the church
teaches. It is about the
00:56:20.32\00:56:22.49
map, you know we
have in the United
00:56:22.52\00:56:24.80
States the Rand
McNally Map. It's
00:56:24.83\00:56:27.18
one of the most
common ones. It's
00:56:27.21\00:56:29.03
sold at gas stations,
it's sold at wall-mart,
00:56:29.06\00:56:31.67
it sold at book
stores, you can find it any
00:56:31.70\00:56:33.72
place that a book
is sold. Forget where
00:56:33.75\00:56:36.45
you find the book.
Umm! Umm! Read the book.
00:56:36.48\00:56:39.10
Yeah. That's the key,
forget where the book is
00:56:39.13\00:56:41.61
purchased read
it. That's the key to
00:56:41.64\00:56:44.49
getting from where
you are to where God
00:56:44.52\00:56:46.52
wants you to be. Umm! Umm!
00:56:46.55\00:56:48.01
You know. Yeah, it's
amazing, but you know God
00:56:48.04\00:56:50.82
wants us to do
that. He wants us to study
00:56:50.85\00:56:52.67
his word out of
the burians. You know,
00:56:52.70\00:56:54.47
we read in the scriptures.
Umm! That even after Paul
00:56:54.50\00:56:56.87
that powerful preacher
Paul came through them there
00:56:56.90\00:56:59.29
territory and preach
to them. That's right.
00:56:59.32\00:57:00.82
They went home
and studied the words,
00:57:00.85\00:57:02.53
studied the
scripture to see if what he was
00:57:02.56\00:57:04.31
saying was true.
Umm! And every Adventist
00:57:04.34\00:57:06.49
pastor, if you
have been and you have
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heard one, we will
tell you as they teach.
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Make sure you check
this out for yourself,
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don't take it out on my
word, but read the Bible.
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Yeah, we're not
afraid of the Bible because
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the Bible is in fact
the sure foundation of
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God's word and we are
in fact going to extend
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this topic to another
program because there is so
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much we have just
scratch the surface friends,
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but remember this
the harvest is coming and
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the best time to get
ready for the harvest is today
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begin by accepting
Christ as your savior.
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Have a great day in Christ.
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