Hello friends, grab
your Bible and a friend
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and sit back as
we explore God's word
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together on this
edition of House Calls.
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Hello, friends
and welcome to another
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House Calls program.
My name is John Lomacang,
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and I'm glad that
you've chosen to tune
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in again. You
know that we believe
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this is one of God's
most ordained programs
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because we use His ordained
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and anointed word, and
not because of the host,
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but because of
the Lord Jesus Christ
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and His word unerring,
accurate, and reliable.
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So, thank you for
tuning in and maybe
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this is the good
time to hit record because
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some people have
written us and said,
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we share this
program with our neighbors,
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our friends and even
at our church communities.
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And I would think
you would want to do that
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with our program
today. I have in the studio
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with me one of the three Johns,
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I won't have you
guess I'll just say,
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good to have you
here John Dinzey.
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Thank you, it's a
pleasure to be here
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and it's a
pleasure and the other John
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is not here, he's
slightly taller than me.
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Yes, but his
legs are even longer.
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It's good to have
you here though because
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whenever we get
emails unless people
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put Dinzey, Stanton,
Lomacang and they say,
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Dear John, yes
that's true, we always get
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Dear John letters,
its terrible thing.
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We kind of feel
slighted you know,
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they use our name,
so generally John Smith,
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John Doe, John
Dinzey, John Stanton
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and John Lomacang.
But nonetheless thank you
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for tuning in.
And get your Bibles,
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get your pens, and
we're gonna have prayer
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though before we
go into our topic.
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We believe that
praying always gives us
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the inspiration we
need to guide you through
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God's word. John
would you pray for us? Sure.
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Our loving heavenly
Father, we thank you
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Lord so much for
your blessings to us.
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We thank you Lord
for the privilege to live
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in these days, when
there are so many tools
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available to help us understand
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the scriptures
Lord. We ask Lord that
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above all things you
will help us understand
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the scriptures that
you through the Holy Spirit
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will guide our
thoughts. And use us Father
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here as we
speak, we pray for your
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Holy Spirit to lead and guide
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and direct every
word. And we pray for
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your blessing upon
all that are hearing Lord
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and seeing this
program, so that they will
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receive a
blessing. And we pray Lord
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for your name to be glorified
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and we ask in Jesus name, amen.
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Amen. Thank you, so
much. And those of you
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who are faithful
viewers of 3ABN as well as
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those of you who send emails in
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periodically, but
like you to know that
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the email
address hasn't changed.
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If you have any questions about
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the topics we
talk about or something
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you'd like us to
address, send those
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questions or comments
to housecalls@3abn.org.
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that's housecalls@3abn.org.
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ORG means
organized. That's right.
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Actually
organization, but you know,
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we believe we're
organized. And send
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whatever you can,
but try to make it
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a question, some
people like to send us books,
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and when you send
us books we don't have
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much time to read
it. Some guy once send me
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an envelope that I
almost was gonna use
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a hand truck to
carry home not really,
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but it was very, very thick.
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And I was wondering to myself,
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is there a
question in here somewhere
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or is, is this a manuscript.
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So, try not to
send us manuscripts,
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send us questions and
if you want our questions,
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if you want that
question answered on
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the air say I
would like to have that
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answer it on the
air. Some people have said
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to us please, just
send me a private answer
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or don't mention my name.
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So, we try to
be nice to you, but
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thank you so much
for being supportive
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of 3ABN as well as House Calls.
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Now, John what's
our first question
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for today? Well, I
have an interesting question
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here and this one
comes from the beautiful
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island of Barbados.
Wow! I had the privilege
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to be there a few
years ago. Sounds good.
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Didn't get to see
much of it, but the little
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part that I saw was beautiful.
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And this question
comes from Jocelyn, okay.
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And I won't read the whole thing
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and she says greetings in Christ
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and then begins to
describe a question here
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about Job chapter
1. Oh! And the letter
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states that the
young people are arguing
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about these
things and are stranded
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about what to
believe? So, the question is,
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did this meeting
take place in heaven
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or where was it
where Satan appears to,
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appears before God.
So, that's a very good
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question and she says, I should,
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I would like this
matter to be discussed in
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House Calls with
Pastor John Lomacang
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and others as soon as possible.
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Okay. So, we hope
that this has soon
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enough as we
discuss it here today.
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Well, you know
what, before we respond
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to that, let's go
ahead and read the text,
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because there are
two places in the Book
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of Job, where
you find this meeting
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talked about. The
couple of things that
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come out of that,
but let's first begin by
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reading Job chapter 1
and we're going to begin
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with verse 6, Job
chapter 1. We're gonna
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begin with verse 6.
And, and we're gonna talk
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about this back
and forth because
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there are some,
there are, there are lot of
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facets to what
happened and when?
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And we find that
the Bible characters
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or the Bible writers
contribute to giving us
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the clear answer.
And so, we don't have
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to just allude to
it, but we could come up
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with a pretty
accurate understanding
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as to how, what,
and where took place.
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Job chapter 1
beginning with verse 6,
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and the Bible says,
"Now there was a day
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when the sons of
God came to present
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themselves before the Lord,
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and Satan also came among them."
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First thing I
want to begin by saying
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John is this. The
Bible used as the phrase
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sons of God in a couple of ways.
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One and most
prominently whenever the Bible
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refers to sons of
God, it refers to somewhat
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of a human race. Yes.
Okay, as the Bible says,
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as many as
receive Him to, to them
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He gave power to
become sons of God.
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That's right. Okay,
the Bible talked about
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the sons of God came
in unto the daughters
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of men in Genesis. So, and so,
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among them women
that were there and they
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chose for
themselves wives. I'm just
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paraphrasing. So,
we could conclude that
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we as this begins to
suggest are not the only
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world existing.
That's right. Okay,
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any comments on that?
Oh! Yes, if we believe
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that God has that
type of limitation,
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we should look
around a little bit because
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I've, I was just
told, I forgot how many
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they were now, but
the person mentioned,
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do you know there
were X amount of varieties
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of dogs. And I
said, wow! I had no idea
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there were so many
different types of dogs,
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but as you look
around they are so many
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different types of
trees, so many different
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types of fruits
and birds and flowers
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and you say,
wow! God is marvelous.
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And in so much as
He has this type of
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great variety. I'm
sure there are other,
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other worlds
that He has created,
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and there is
reference to that in Hebrews
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chapter 1. It says,
by whom it concerning
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Jesus, he says,
"God who at sundry times
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and in diverse
manners spake unto us
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in the past has
spoken unto us in these
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last days by His
son, by who, through whom
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also He made the
worlds." And its plural.
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So, there is a
suggestion there that
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there are other
worlds, very clear in that
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passage and so,
there are other places
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in the Bible, but this
is one of the ones that
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we have another
point where we see that.
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Right, so we could
see right away that
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we are not alone,
but now let me also
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just get you those
who of you are really fast
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and coming to
another conclusion.
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We're not talking
about UFOs and visitors
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and all these people
that are walking around
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the earth, that
are short guys with
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big heads. We're
not; we're not suggesting
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any of that at all.
So, so don't go away
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from this and
saying, hey Pastor John
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and Pastor John
said that there are extra
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terrestrial
people walking around
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from other worlds coming here.
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The bottom line is,
this is the world that
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fell into sin. And I
always ask the question,
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why would anyone
want to come down here?
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That's right,
that's right. You know,
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if somebody came
from another world,
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they could get
robbed in Brooklyn.
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I shouldn't
have said that, okay.
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The Brooklyn people
will be unhappy with that.
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Yeah, I'm a, I'm a
Brooklyn, I only say
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that because I'm a
native of Brooklyn,
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but I mean I love
Brooklyn, New York I,
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periodically I want
to go back and visit.
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Let me not dig
the hole any deeper.
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But anyway the
bottom line is this meeting
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took place and
others came to represent
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themselves and
where they came from?
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And they came to this
meeting that God held.
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And look at verse
2. And the Lord said
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to Satan that is
the advisory, from where
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did you come? So,
Satan answered the Lord
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and said, from going
to and fro on the earth.
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What verse are you
in? I'm in verse 7.
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Verse 7, of Job
1. "From going to
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and fro in the
earth, and from walking back
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and forth on it." So, he says,
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that's where I came
from? So, in other words
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he comes as a representative now
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of the earth, yes.
And others are there,
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which would suggest that they're
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representatives of other worlds.
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Yes, and it's
interesting we know
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that the meeting did
not take place on earth
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because Satan is
saying, he came from there.
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Right. So, he is
saying, where did you
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come from? From going
up to and fro in the earth.
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So, it's another
location not the earth,
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where it is, it's
not clear. Some believe
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its heaven, some
believe it's another
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location, but it's not clear.
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Right and because it's
not clear the one thing
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we don't want to
do is add any fuel to
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the fire to say
ah we know exactly
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where the meeting took place.
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All the things that
the Bible is silent on,
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we've to support the
silence that the Bible
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has, and not
suggest, but you know,
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when you read and
the word but here is not
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changing the very
thought that I had.
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You'll read the
Bible and you could,
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could see a
couple of possibilities,
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and why some
people could conclude
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that could have
taken place in heaven?
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Why some people
could conclude that it may
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have taken place,
may have taken place
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somewhere else
other than heaven?
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You find there is
a second meeting also
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because the
first assault on Satan,
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Satan comes to the
Lord and, and Satan
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in this first
discussion. He, he says,
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Lord you have
surrounded Job with everything.
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I mean you've
blessed him tremendously,
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if you just take
all these blessings away
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I know He will
curse to your face.
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And he says, Job,
does he fear you for
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nothing? So, this
whole conversation is
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going on. And then
Satan asks a question
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that I want to bring
this out and we could
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talk about this
together. He, he says
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to the Lord, but if
you stretch out your hand
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and, and, and, and,
and, and, and inflict Him
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you'll realize
He'll curse to your face
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and die. And God
says, I'm not gonna be
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the one to do
that. So, John disease
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and suffering, and
death and heartache
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and famine and
pestilence and disaster,
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is that God? No, no, no, okay.
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The Bible shows us
that God is more willing
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then earthly parents
are to give good gifts
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to His children. So,
God is ready and willing to
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give good gifts to His children.
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Unfortunately
sometimes our decisions bring
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tragedy upon
ourselves, but sometimes
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we are doing the
best we understand how,
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but tragedy still
strikes in our home.
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And it is because
Satan is, as a roaring,
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roaring lion
seeking who He may devour.
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And God may
allow Satan to do some
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harm to us for
our own well being
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that we may not see
in the immediate future
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or in at that present moment,
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but we are promised
that, that this light
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affliction or the
affliction that we face
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is working for us on
far more eternal way to
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glory then
appears upon the earth.
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So, when you find
in scripture these two
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phrases connected
together, you find
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judgment, you find
fire, you find God,
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you find the heaven
like Revelation talks about
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and fire came down
from God out of heaven
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and devoured them.
Well, one of the reasons
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why you know,
that that is not from
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Satan's because what it does.
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It devours even Satan himself.
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The lake of fire,
the fire that comes down
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from God when the
wicked surround the city
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that's a judgment
of God. So, you find in
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scripture in most of the places
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where you find
this, you'll discover
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that one of the
reasons why heartache
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and devastation
came to the people of God
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is because they
stepped outside of God's
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protection.
That's right. And so, God
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has an umbrella as it were. Now,
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let me give you an example.
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If, if it's raining
and I'm under an umbrella,
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I'm protected, if
I step out from under
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the umbrella the
natural result of stepping
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out from under it is
what? You'll get wet.
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Okay, now do I
say God just soaked me
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with water? No, because He sends
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the rain on the
just, and on the unjust,
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unjust. But those
who are not under the
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umbrella will get
soaked. Those who are
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under God's
umbrella will not get soaked.
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You find that
John, God send judgments
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on the land of Egypt.
He has rained down fire on
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Jerusalem, when
they disobeyed him,
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but in essence what
happened is the people
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align themselves
to be removed from the
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blessings of God
and thus the natural
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results came.
But in this, in this,
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in this discourse God
didn't send judgments.
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All these things had be fell Job
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and his household. It
says, so Satan went out
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from the presence of the Lord.
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So, right away
another suggestion is that
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wherever this
meeting took place it wasn't
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in the presence of the Lord.
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See Job 1 and verse
12, the meeting took place
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in the presence of the Lord.
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Now, let's look
at the second one.
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Job chapter 2 read that for us,
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once again trying to
nail down the location
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for this meeting, Job chapter 2.
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Job chapter 2 verse
1, "Again there was a day
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when the sons of
God came to present
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themselves before
the Lord, and Satan
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came also among them
to present himself before
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the Lord." You
know, reading from
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this passage some may
come to the conclusion.
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Well, God was in
heaven and people came to
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present themselves before Him,
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which is a possibility. However,
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it is not
specified as thus here.
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Verse 2, sure.
Job chapter 2 verse 2,
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"And the Lord said unto Satan,
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From whence comest
thou? And Satan answered
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the Lord, and
said, from going to
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and fro in the earth, and from
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walking up and down in it."
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So, he sees again
that this, this suggestion
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is that Satan comes
as the representative
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of the earth.
He comes to saying,
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I have been there.
Now, now the question
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we must ask ourselves is how did
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He get here?
And to, to, to give,
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to give a foundation to this,
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we know that there
was a war in heaven.
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Yes. Okay, yes.
Talk about that for us.
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Well, you know,
you mentioned something
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earlier and I think
maybe we should pause
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on it, okay.
And then go to that.
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You were talking about
the fire that came down
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from heaven and
here in Job chapter 1,
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that's right. We see where
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fire came down from
heaven. In verse 16.
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Did it come from God
or did it come from where,
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from Satan? Verse 16,
I'll read that and says,
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"While he was yet
speaking, there came
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also another, and
said the fire of God
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is fallen from
heaven, and hath burned up
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the sheep, and the servants,
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and consumed them
and I only am escaped
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alone to tell thee!"
So, the servant is watching
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and he sees fire as he
says here come down from
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heaven. So, he is
thinking God did this.
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However, when we
come to chapter 2,
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we understand, well
even from chapter 1,
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we understand
that. God said, okay
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you go ahead and
do as you will, but
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don't touch his
life. So, here in
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Job chapter 2 and
verse 3. "And the Lord said
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unto Satan, Hast thou considered
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my servant Job, that
there is none like him
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in the earth, a
perfect and an upright man,
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one that feareth
God, and escheweth evil?
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And still he
holdeth fast his integrity,
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although thou
movest me against him,
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to destroy him
without a cause." So, Satan
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moved there, God
allow Satan to do damage
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to Job and his and his family.
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And because Satan
comes to destroy and to kill.
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And so Satan blames
these things upon God
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or, or sometime
even God seems to allow
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himself to, to look
bad, when Satan is doing
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something? And God remain silent
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and Satan is having you know,
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good time with that,
but those that studied
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the Bible understand
that Satan is the one
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that causes calamity
and damage upon the earth.
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You, you clearly see
that as, as the natural
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result of sin and the
choices that men make,
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but I want to go back
and we pull this back to
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the place of where did
this meeting take place.
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Let me, let me share a
few scriptures with you
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in Revelation first
of which the Bible talks
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about Satan being
cast out, but it also talks
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about him being
cast down. Now, John
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we talked about
this, yes, prior to the
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program there seems to
be a difference between
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being cast out
and being cast down.
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Now, let's go and
develop this briefly.
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One of the reasons
why Satan continued
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to tempt Jesus
is because he felt
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that if he could
cast him down before
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he could get cast
down, he'll be victorious.
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Yes, yes. Okay, you've
heard the, you've heard
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the phrase knocked
down but not knocked out.
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Yes. Okay, this is the
phrase I'm referring to.
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Satan knocked
Christ down at the cross,
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but didn't knock
him out. That's right.
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Because he rose
again, from them yes, amen.
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Yeah, he, he
thought he knocked Him out,
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and so, from all
appearances Jesus
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appeared to be knocked out,
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but He was just
simply knocked down.
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And He rose
again; He stood up again
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on His feet as. And
so, people nowadays say,
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well you know,
what is the sinner?
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A sinner is the
saint who falls down
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and gets up,
falls down and gets up.
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Now, I don't want to
talk about a perpetual
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life of down, up,
down, up, down, up.
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We want to talk
about a life of victory
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in Christ. That's
what Jesus wants us to have
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from one victory to the other,
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not a life of
stumbling and getting along like
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a person who is
inebriated or a person
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who just had a,
one drink too many.
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That's not the description of a
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Christian life,
but in this case John,
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Jesus came to
accomplish something, yes,
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that was not yet
accomplished till
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the cross. Let's look at that.
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And matter of
fact, I want to go to
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Hebrews chapter 2,
if you have your Bibles
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go to Hebrews chapter 2 with us.
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Do you've a passage
that you want to share
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with us before we went there?
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No, as soon as you
share this then I will go on.
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Okay, Hebrews
chapter 2, we wanna see
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this because this
passage brings to us
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the understanding
that the mission of Christ
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was not some
arbitrary mission that
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He just came down,
He is a good ambassador
00:19:24.20\00:19:25.91
because the complete
destruction of Satan had
00:19:25.92\00:19:28.04
already been set. It had been,
00:19:28.05\00:19:30.43
it had been sealed
after Jesus did something.
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So, Satan thought I
still have a chance to,
00:19:33.31\00:19:36.56
to even get capped,
to even capture Christ
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as my servant.
Let me try my best to
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accomplish His
demise. And you see before
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we read, matter
of fact I would like
00:19:43.75\00:19:44.87
you to read
Hebrews 2 verse 14 to 15,
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you'll discover that
that's the reason why
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Satan dodged the
footsteps of Christ from
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the time he was
born, he tried to kill Him.
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Praise God, he didn't
succeed, but he returned
00:19:55.11\00:19:57.80
again in the
temptation in the garden.
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And he returned again during
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his life trying to arrest him.
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Oh! Yeah. You
know, and sometimes you,
00:20:04.59\00:20:07.89
you say to yourself I
sure hate to be in his shoes.
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Jesus was sorely tempted. Okay.
00:20:11.46\00:20:13.54
I mean everyone of
us is tempted and, and
00:20:13.55\00:20:15.38
most of us think we were
tempted more than others,
00:20:15.39\00:20:19.50
but Christ was tempted
severely much more than
00:20:19.89\00:20:23.05
anyone upon the
earth has ever been tempted
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because there
was so much at stake.
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And praise God that
we are not harassed.
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I use the word harassed
00:20:34.00\00:20:34.97
as much as the devil would like.
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God places restraint
upon the devil. Amen.
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Otherwise we wouldn't
have a moment of rest,
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but Christ was severely tempted,
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I would dare say a hundred fold
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more than every individual.
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I know, and that's what,
when the Bible writer said,
00:20:53.48\00:20:55.36
he was tempted
on all points just
00:20:55.37\00:20:56.88
as we're yet without
sin. He didn't just mean,
00:20:56.89\00:20:59.49
he didn't mean
that, he meant attack,
00:20:59.90\00:21:02.28
he meant direct onslaught
from the enemy himself.
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But this passage
you're going to read
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Hebrews 2 verse 14
and 15 will give you a
00:21:07.36\00:21:09.52
clear picture of
the mission of Christ.
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Okay. And why we're
gonna read the passages,
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so after that to show
you the difference between
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cast out of heaven
and being cast down.
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That's right.
Okay, read this for us.
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For as much, excuse me.
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"For as much
then as the children
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are partakers of
flesh and blood, he also
00:21:25.27\00:21:28.52
himself likewise
took part of the same;
00:21:28.53\00:21:31.44
that through death
he might destroy him
00:21:31.84\00:21:34.39
that had the power of
death, that is, the devil.
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And deliver them who
through fear of death
00:21:37.72\00:21:40.20
were all their
lifetime subject to bondage."
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Okay, in essence Johnny,
what's that saying to us?
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Well, we have that
Jesus Christ came to
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this world just like
we took part of flesh
00:21:51.14\00:21:54.91
just like you and I have flesh.
00:21:54.92\00:21:56.56
And for the
purpose of living His life
00:21:56.96\00:22:02.14
as a sacrifice for
us, but also it says here
00:22:02.15\00:22:04.43
that he might
destroy him that has
00:22:04.44\00:22:07.19
the power of
death, which is the devil.
00:22:07.20\00:22:08.75
So, he came on a
mission to destroy.
00:22:09.73\00:22:11.28
Not destroy
sinners, but to destroy sin.
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Amen. He came as an
ambassador John 3:6,
00:22:16.61\00:22:19.48
John 3:17, "For God
sent not his Son into
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the world to
condemn the world, amen,
00:22:22.11\00:22:23.62
but that the world
through him might be saved."
00:22:24.05\00:22:25.81
Isn't that
beautiful? Isn't that wonderful,
00:22:26.18\00:22:27.47
He didn't come to condemn us.
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God has not called us to the
00:22:28.60\00:22:30.09
ministry of condemning sinners.
00:22:30.10\00:22:31.57
God has called us to the
ministry of condemning sin,
00:22:31.97\00:22:34.24
that's right, by
redeeming and bringing
00:22:34.61\00:22:36.15
the sinner into
reconciliation with Him.
00:22:36.16\00:22:37.96
Some people get
that often confused
00:22:38.82\00:22:40.39
because they say, well
look at the life of Christ
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I mean sometime
you see that he really
00:22:41.85\00:22:43.75
condemned the
practices of the Pharisees and
00:22:43.76\00:22:46.03
condemned the
practices of the temple
00:22:46.53\00:22:48.11
being misused for
selling wares, but there is a
00:22:48.12\00:22:51.32
lot of condemnation
was in his ministry,
00:22:51.33\00:22:53.03
he condemned the act,
00:22:53.42\00:22:54.39
but never the one who
was guilty of the act.
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You see, he condemned those who
00:22:57.59\00:22:59.75
accused the women, but
he didn't condemn the women.
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He did not condone her sin,
00:23:03.07\00:23:04.31
he said go and sin no more.
00:23:04.70\00:23:05.99
That's right, that's
right. And so right now John
00:23:06.00\00:23:08.12
what we read in that
passage is that Jesus
00:23:08.13\00:23:10.05
came to partake,
so that as we have to
00:23:10.06\00:23:13.28
deal with his mortal
flesh, he came in this
00:23:13.29\00:23:15.73
mortal flesh, clothed in
humanity his divinity was.
00:23:15.74\00:23:20.18
He came to face
the temptations as we
00:23:20.55\00:23:23.34
would have to
face the temptations.
00:23:23.35\00:23:24.76
And Matthew 4 has a
record of those three
00:23:25.07\00:23:27.01
temptations, and it
says, when the devil
00:23:27.02\00:23:31.41
left Christ, angels
came and ministered to him.
00:23:31.42\00:23:34.49
So, as John pointed
out one of the reasons
00:23:35.33\00:23:36.88
why we're not
harassed all day long,
00:23:36.89\00:23:38.54
it's because the
angels of God minister
00:23:38.96\00:23:41.21
to those who are
heirs of salvation. Amen.
00:23:41.22\00:23:43.32
Isn't that
wonderful? Amen, amen.
00:23:43.71\00:23:44.71
So, now when Jesus died
on the cross there is a,
00:23:45.07\00:23:48.65
there is a declaration,
there is a declaration
00:23:48.66\00:23:51.13
that we read in
Revelation 12 verse 9 and 10.
00:23:51.54\00:23:55.27
And I want you to
read that again for us.
00:23:55.28\00:23:56.62
You have another
passage other than that one?
00:23:56.93\00:23:58.98
One is coming to
mind, but we'll go to
00:23:58.99\00:24:00.38
that first, it
will come in a moment.
00:24:00.39\00:24:01.58
Revelation, what?
Revelation chapter 12,
00:24:01.59\00:24:04.09
Revelation
chapter 12 verse 9 and 10.
00:24:05.53\00:24:07.31
We're so excited
about this, friends.
00:24:07.32\00:24:08.83
We're starting to
bark at each other.
00:24:08.84\00:24:09.89
Revelation 12 verse 9 and 10.
00:24:10.73\00:24:12.12
Okay, did it come to your mind?
00:24:12.59\00:24:13.56
I will read the passage,
00:24:13.57\00:24:14.54
I just need to look at
up Revelation 12: 9 and 10.
00:24:14.55\00:24:16.60
Okay, which one
you're thinking of? Well,
00:24:16.61\00:24:18.58
Jesus himself at the
point of time when He had been,
00:24:18.59\00:24:22.17
He had lived His
life upon the earth.
00:24:22.59\00:24:23.89
He said, now is the
prince of this world cast out.
00:24:25.68\00:24:31.50
Okay. We'll go back
to that. Okay, good.
00:24:31.51\00:24:33.46
Revelation 12.
Revelation 12 verse 9 and 10,
00:24:33.83\00:24:36.43
verse 9 and 10.
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We'll start with the
first one and the second one.
00:24:37.42\00:24:38.39
Verse 9, "And the
great dragon was cast out,
00:24:38.40\00:24:41.95
that old serpent
called the Devil, and Satan,
00:24:43.22\00:24:47.57
which deceiveth
the whole world: he was
00:24:47.58\00:24:50.23
cast out into the
earth, and his angels were
00:24:50.24\00:24:54.75
cast out with him."
Are we stopping there?
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No, go to verse 10. Verse 10,
00:24:58.42\00:25:00.73
"And I heard a loud
voice saying in heaven,
00:25:01.15\00:25:03.52
Now is come
salvation, and strength,
00:25:03.53\00:25:06.01
and the kingdom of our God,
00:25:06.41\00:25:07.77
and the power of his
Christ: for the accuser of
00:25:08.15\00:25:11.03
our brethren is
cast down, which accuses
00:25:11.04\00:25:14.12
them before our
God day and night."
00:25:14.13\00:25:16.49
Now, notice the first one.
The first one was cast out.
00:25:18.72\00:25:23.25
His angels were
cast out with Him. Yes.
00:25:23.66\00:25:26.08
But you'll notice
now the second one is not
00:25:26.09\00:25:28.00
talking about the
angels being cast out.
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The second one is
talking about something
00:25:31.15\00:25:33.24
that happened to
Satan himself, notice that,
00:25:33.25\00:25:36.27
and let's look at that
revisit that one more time.
00:25:36.28\00:25:38.66
First one Revelation 12:9,
00:25:39.46\00:25:41.08
Satan and his
angels being cast out.
00:25:41.09\00:25:43.76
Now, look at verse 10,
00:25:44.50\00:25:45.59
"And I heard a loud
voice saying in heaven,
00:25:45.60\00:25:48.53
now is come
salvation, and strength,
00:25:48.85\00:25:52.36
and the kingdom of our God,
00:25:52.69\00:25:54.29
and the power of his
Christ: for the accuser of
00:25:54.70\00:25:58.30
our brethren is
cast down, which accused
00:25:58.31\00:26:01.70
them before our
God day and night."
00:26:01.71\00:26:03.68
Now, the reason why you
know, that this is not just
00:26:03.69\00:26:05.81
Adam and Eve that he is talking
00:26:06.31\00:26:07.88
about here is because he says,
00:26:07.89\00:26:09.97
"The accuser of our
brethren, who accused
00:26:10.35\00:26:12.54
them before our
God day and night."
00:26:12.55\00:26:14.08
He is talking about
the continual work of Satan
00:26:14.09\00:26:16.25
happening
continually accusing the
00:26:16.61\00:26:18.29
brethren day and night.
00:26:18.30\00:26:19.27
But then it says;
now it's come salvation
00:26:19.55\00:26:21.32
and strength and the
00:26:21.33\00:26:22.62
accuser of our
brethren is cast down.
00:26:22.63\00:26:24.28
Now is, and the
kingdom of our God
00:26:26.92\00:26:28.85
and the power of His
Christ in Jesus' ministry,
00:26:28.86\00:26:32.65
one continuous message was,
00:26:33.07\00:26:35.78
Behold the Kingdom of
God is at hand. That's right.
00:26:36.76\00:26:39.79
Behold the Kingdom
of Heaven is at hand.
00:26:39.80\00:26:42.15
He began in the
earlier part by saying,
00:26:42.16\00:26:44.76
Behold the
Kingdom of God is at hand.
00:26:45.12\00:26:46.70
But later on after
the Jews had discovered
00:26:46.71\00:26:49.67
who He is? He started saying the
00:26:49.68\00:26:52.10
Kingdom of Heaven is
at hand. That's right.
00:26:52.11\00:26:54.07
And the reason
why he didn't say the
00:26:54.08\00:26:55.33
kingdom of heaven in
the beginning is he didn't
00:26:55.34\00:26:57.17
want to stir up
prejudice against him
00:26:57.18\00:26:58.99
to say wait a
minute, who is this guy?
00:26:59.30\00:27:00.61
Kingdom of Heaven,
he is not even Christ.
00:27:00.90\00:27:02.95
Who is he? He began by
saying the Kingdom of God.
00:27:03.25\00:27:05.99
And so notice what
it says, now is come
00:27:06.00\00:27:08.08
salvation and strengthen
the kingdom of our God.
00:27:08.09\00:27:10.57
You see, when
Jesus was victorious the
00:27:11.35\00:27:14.25
Kingdom of God
was established, amen.
00:27:14.26\00:27:17.44
See, and there was
nothing Satan could
00:27:17.85\00:27:20.89
do and that's why
Jesus said, the gates of hell
00:27:20.90\00:27:24.57
shall not prevail,
prevail against it.
00:27:25.31\00:27:27.81
And so you find
there that when Jesus rose,
00:27:28.14\00:27:31.07
when Jesus died,
He said something,
00:27:31.37\00:27:33.75
He said three
words John, do you know
00:27:34.08\00:27:36.31
what those three
words are Jesus said
00:27:36.32\00:27:37.74
on the cross
before He bowed His head?
00:27:37.75\00:27:39.15
"It is finished."
Okay, what was finished?
00:27:39.16\00:27:42.81
The plan of
destruction for Satan,
00:27:43.83\00:27:46.95
the plan of
salvation for men, amen.
00:27:47.25\00:27:49.98
You see, and so
right there any attempt of
00:27:49.99\00:27:53.32
Satan ever
regaining position of favor
00:27:53.33\00:27:56.44
was totally over and done with,
00:27:57.30\00:27:59.69
that's right, he was cast down.
00:27:59.70\00:28:01.10
It's all, it's a
beautiful passage.
00:28:01.11\00:28:02.95
I mean a beautiful
picture that is painted here.
00:28:03.25\00:28:06.06
We like to make clear
that we're not, if you,
00:28:07.66\00:28:11.13
if you, if you're
reading Revelation 12
00:28:11.14\00:28:14.69
and you continue
reading without stopping
00:28:15.30\00:28:17.32
to analyze what's going on?
00:28:17.33\00:28:18.69
You will notice
that in verse 8 it says,
00:28:19.79\00:28:22.59
actually verse 9, verse 7, 7, 8.
00:28:23.09\00:28:25.27
"And there was war in
Heaven: Michael and his
00:28:25.28\00:28:27.76
angels fought
against the dragon;
00:28:27.77\00:28:29.34
and the dragon
fought and his angels.
00:28:29.71\00:28:31.41
And prevailed
not; neither was their
00:28:31.42\00:28:33.46
place found any more in heaven."
00:28:33.47\00:28:34.86
So, they were cast out.
00:28:35.23\00:28:36.89
So, the question
that we ask now is,
00:28:38.08\00:28:40.43
he belonged there, it
was a place for him there,
00:28:41.75\00:28:44.61
but because of
the rebellion that he,
00:28:45.34\00:28:48.01
he made in
heaven, he was cast out.
00:28:49.35\00:28:51.88
Where, where was he cast out?
00:28:52.91\00:28:54.41
There is no indication
as to, he was just cast out.
00:28:54.92\00:28:57.72
And just as you
would, if you throw somebody
00:28:58.68\00:29:01.80
out of your
house, they're just out;
00:29:01.81\00:29:04.32
they're not in a specific place.
00:29:05.56\00:29:06.86
Satan was out until
Adam and Eve sinned,
00:29:07.41\00:29:11.22
then they could be
cast down to the earth.
00:29:11.58\00:29:14.41
So, they were
cast unto the earth
00:29:15.17\00:29:17.42
when Adam and Eve
sinned. I've heard somebody;
00:29:17.76\00:29:20.28
somebody said
that this world was
00:29:20.29\00:29:21.80
created for Satan to
have a place to go to.
00:29:21.81\00:29:23.65
No, God did not
create this world
00:29:23.66\00:29:25.79
for Satan to
have a place to go to.
00:29:25.80\00:29:27.20
Adam and Eve
sinned and that's why
00:29:27.66\00:29:29.50
Satan was cast
out and down here.
00:29:29.51\00:29:32.78
And so, this casting
down now described there
00:29:33.65\00:29:36.33
in Revelation 12
talks about that victory,
00:29:36.34\00:29:41.12
that was won at the cross.
00:29:41.50\00:29:42.97
The beautiful victory,
because Jesus kept saying,
00:29:43.82\00:29:46.54
referred to Satan as
the prince of this world.
00:29:47.82\00:29:50.74
So, there is another
aspect of this victory
00:29:52.05\00:29:54.48
at the cross is that
Satan would be no longer
00:29:54.49\00:29:56.47
the prince of this
world, because the kingdom
00:29:56.48\00:29:59.72
as he says, the
Kingdom of God is now there.
00:29:59.73\00:30:02.63
As verse 10, is
that we were in? Yes.
00:30:02.64\00:30:05.55
"And I heard a voice
in heaven now is come
00:30:05.91\00:30:08.45
salvation, the plan
of salvation and strength
00:30:08.46\00:30:11.41
at the cross and
the Kingdom of our God,
00:30:11.42\00:30:14.33
and the power of His
Christ for the accuser
00:30:15.19\00:30:17.41
for our brethren is cast down,
00:30:17.42\00:30:18.76
which accused them
before our God day and night."
00:30:19.96\00:30:22.69
So, it's a
beautiful, beautiful thing to
00:30:22.70\00:30:24.43
consider that Satan no longer
00:30:24.44\00:30:27.26
is the prince of this world.
00:30:28.22\00:30:29.51
Couple of things
I want to bring out
00:30:30.08\00:30:31.29
the passage read
John 12:31 I think that's
00:30:31.30\00:30:34.45
the one you were
talking about. John 12:31.
00:30:34.46\00:30:36.56
Yeah, that's the one
you, I think you were
00:30:36.57\00:30:37.80
talking about, but
as you made some points
00:30:37.81\00:30:39.22
I wanna just add, add
light to that is that,
00:30:39.23\00:30:43.66
Satan sought
away into this world,
00:30:44.49\00:30:46.79
it was not until Adam
and Eve opened the door.
00:30:46.80\00:30:48.77
He was cast to the
earth, he was cast to the earth
00:30:48.78\00:30:51.70
and his angels
were cast out with him.
00:30:51.71\00:30:53.13
They were here seeking to
00:30:53.14\00:30:54.36
establish
residence as it were. Yes.
00:30:54.37\00:30:56.64
But they will not allowed
access to residence until
00:30:56.96\00:31:00.18
by one man, that's
right, sin entered the world.
00:31:00.74\00:31:03.00
Then they setup
camp. They setup camp.
00:31:03.01\00:31:05.01
So, it's like knocking
at the door can we get in,
00:31:05.02\00:31:07.09
and until Adam made
the decision Romans 5:12,
00:31:07.45\00:31:09.67
until he made the
decision to, to transgress
00:31:09.68\00:31:12.76
then death couldn't
pass on, that's right,
00:31:13.54\00:31:15.31
then death couldn't pass on men.
00:31:15.32\00:31:16.38
So, here was Satan
in the garden and his
00:31:16.39\00:31:18.66
angels you see they
were not; they were not in
00:31:18.67\00:31:21.50
the garden waiting
for the Satan to say,
00:31:21.51\00:31:23.42
okay it's safe to come in now.
00:31:23.43\00:31:24.76
So, Satan had
gone ahead of them.
00:31:26.07\00:31:28.27
You clearly see
that Jesus made it
00:31:29.06\00:31:30.72
in Isaiah 14
verse 13 to 15. He says,
00:31:30.73\00:31:33.43
"You'll be brought
down to Sheol to the
00:31:33.44\00:31:35.38
lowest sides of
the pit, that's right.
00:31:35.39\00:31:36.65
You'll be brought down to hell
00:31:37.00\00:31:37.97
to the lowest sides of the pit."
00:31:37.98\00:31:39.23
And Peter says, "That
the angels were cast out
00:31:39.60\00:31:42.57
and they were
delivered in chains of darkness,
00:31:42.61\00:31:45.06
reserved unto the
Day of Judgment." Yes.
00:31:45.07\00:31:46.88
See, so they will
cast out total darkness
00:31:46.89\00:31:50.07
and Adam and Eve did
not see this controversy
00:31:50.08\00:31:52.25
developing, but
God warned them, yes,
00:31:52.26\00:31:54.41
but when he
sinned he opened the door
00:31:54.74\00:31:57.34
to this earth to
become a camp ground for evil,
00:31:57.35\00:32:00.50
for Satan and his
angels. That's right.
00:32:00.92\00:32:02.18
I think that's the
passage that you're
00:32:02.19\00:32:03.40
referring to verse 31.
00:32:03.41\00:32:04.38
I was referring to
verse 31 notice that is,
00:32:04.39\00:32:05.81
it's, it's, it's in
the context of the cross.
00:32:05.82\00:32:08.47
This, this part here
about the casting out.
00:32:09.33\00:32:12.68
"Now is the
judgment of this world: now
00:32:13.57\00:32:18.68
shall the prince of
this world be cast out.
00:32:18.69\00:32:21.40
And I, if I be
lifted up from the earth,
00:32:21.41\00:32:24.50
will draw all men unto me."
00:32:24.51\00:32:26.88
So, it's in the
context of the crucifixion
00:32:27.26\00:32:29.66
that we see this casting out,
00:32:30.09\00:32:32.43
this prince of this
world no longer to be
00:32:32.44\00:32:34.39
prince of the world,
but the Christ would now,
00:32:34.40\00:32:36.57
the second Adam as
the Bible calls him.
00:32:37.03\00:32:38.79
And the last Adam,
he would become the,
00:32:38.80\00:32:42.34
though, though,
the one that has the
00:32:42.83\00:32:44.57
right to be the
king of this world.
00:32:44.58\00:32:46.59
So, the contrast
is you're out, I'm in.
00:32:46.60\00:32:48.68
That's right. Okay,
so, so the, the nutshell of
00:32:48.69\00:32:52.82
this whole idea is
that the meeting that was
00:32:52.83\00:32:56.11
taken place in heaven
that Job talks about in
00:32:56.12\00:33:00.04
Job 1 and Job 2.
This, the specific location
00:33:00.05\00:33:03.45
wasn't
specified, so we cannot say,
00:33:03.46\00:33:05.92
it definitely
took place in heaven,
00:33:05.93\00:33:07.53
but at the same time we're,
00:33:08.98\00:33:12.26
we're talking about
limited access, yes,
00:33:12.27\00:33:14.78
into the meetings that
were held, but after that
00:33:14.79\00:33:17.63
point there was no
more, there was no more return
00:33:17.64\00:33:20.50
into the presence
of the sons of God,
00:33:20.87\00:33:25.04
when they gathered
themselves together,
00:33:25.05\00:33:27.14
when God met with
them, when representatives of
00:33:27.48\00:33:30.34
other worlds came
because you'll notice
00:33:30.35\00:33:32.54
that when Jesus was victorious,
00:33:32.55\00:33:34.03
He also referred,
see Satan referred to
00:33:35.67\00:33:37.70
himself as the prince of
this world. That's right.
00:33:37.71\00:33:39.85
But Jesus said,
you're the prince of the
00:33:40.60\00:33:42.01
power of the heir.
You don't know anything.
00:33:42.02\00:33:43.91
That's right, and it's
you know, when he goes up to,
00:33:43.92\00:33:46.50
to present himself before God,
00:33:46.51\00:33:47.81
He says from, from the earth,
00:33:47.82\00:33:49.92
from going to and
fro it showing dominion.
00:33:49.93\00:33:51.82
The one that was
supposed to be there was Adam,
00:33:52.17\00:33:55.01
but since Satan overcame Adam.
00:33:56.16\00:33:57.81
Adam could not
show up, he is not the
00:33:59.01\00:34:01.04
representative of
the, of the earth.
00:34:01.05\00:34:02.79
And unfortunately
that privilege was taken
00:34:03.54\00:34:06.48
away by Satan
when because it says by
00:34:06.49\00:34:09.39
whom you're overcome,
00:34:09.40\00:34:10.37
you'll become
slave of that person.
00:34:10.58\00:34:12.61
It's a long part and we
could continue with this,
00:34:12.99\00:34:15.55
but it's, it's, it's
beautiful that we have
00:34:15.56\00:34:17.44
the victory
through Jesus Christ.
00:34:17.45\00:34:18.95
And that He is
the one that has the
00:34:19.37\00:34:21.72
right to be the
king of this world.
00:34:21.73\00:34:23.32
And that's why friends,
00:34:23.71\00:34:25.06
He is going to
reestablish the earth,
00:34:25.07\00:34:26.81
Eden lost to Eden restored.
00:34:26.82\00:34:29.98
We're gonna once again see how
00:34:29.99\00:34:31.29
God always
intended the world to be.
00:34:31.30\00:34:32.85
So, where was the meeting?
00:34:33.18\00:34:35.16
I'll tell you what?
I'm looking forward to the
00:34:35.52\00:34:37.49
meeting that I'm
gonna be involved in,
00:34:37.50\00:34:39.23
and that's gonna be
when we all ascend at the
00:34:39.60\00:34:42.48
coming of our Lord
to be in His presence.
00:34:42.49\00:34:44.05
Satan is not
going to be ascending.
00:34:44.51\00:34:46.18
You notice how he
said; I will ascend
00:34:46.53\00:34:48.45
to the heights of the cloud.
00:34:48.46\00:34:49.43
I'll be like the most
high. He always wanted to
00:34:49.44\00:34:51.83
ascend to the place
that belonged to God alone.
00:34:51.84\00:34:53.71
One day the Lord has
promised those of us who
00:34:54.13\00:34:55.83
are faithful, we'll
sit with God in His throne,
00:34:55.84\00:34:58.49
and that's the beauty
that we're looking forward to.
00:34:58.84\00:35:00.68
But hopefully that
we've been able to even add
00:35:01.48\00:35:03.74
some more dimension
to that, but once again
00:35:03.75\00:35:06.05
to conclude that
since the place of the
00:35:06.06\00:35:08.16
meeting is not
specified in scripture,
00:35:08.17\00:35:10.29
we do not want to
suggest that it took any,
00:35:10.66\00:35:13.52
it took place in any
particularly location,
00:35:13.53\00:35:15.78
but wherever the location
was, the presence of God
00:35:16.12\00:35:18.86
was talked about and
other representatives of
00:35:19.45\00:35:22.66
other worlds were
there, and Satan came
00:35:22.67\00:35:24.32
also and said, I'm
here, but he won't be
00:35:24.33\00:35:26.80
in the next
meeting, praise God for that.
00:35:26.81\00:35:28.40
That's right.
Any questions you may
00:35:28.41\00:35:29.83
have send them again
to House Calls that's
00:35:29.84\00:35:32.42
housecalls@3abn.org,
housecalls@3abn.org
00:35:32.43\00:35:38.95
as people like to
say. You know, as we,
00:35:39.29\00:35:43.38
as we consider this
topic even further, I think
00:35:43.39\00:35:48.17
we laid the
foundation for the topic of
00:35:48.18\00:35:50.58
discussion, it's
gonna be a short one,
00:35:50.59\00:35:52.15
but its not so much
how God has sent Jesus to
00:35:52.50\00:35:56.01
remedy the issue of
sin, but how did sin
00:35:56.02\00:35:59.60
begin, is what we
want to talk about today?
00:36:00.21\00:36:02.82
Get your Bibles and
we're gonna look at som
00:36:02.83\00:36:04.95
passages, we
suggested some of them earlier,
00:36:04.96\00:36:07.18
but we want to go back to them.
00:36:07.50\00:36:08.87
And John where
would do you like to
00:36:09.38\00:36:12.06
begin on this passage? I
think that we could start
00:36:12.07\00:36:15.48
by asking a question
of great significance.
00:36:15.88\00:36:18.62
How did we get into this mess?
00:36:19.00\00:36:22.22
I mean really,
we're in trouble today.
00:36:22.23\00:36:24.74
We're in trouble today
you know, this is what you
00:36:25.22\00:36:27.99
would call a mystery
that perhaps we'll be spending
00:36:28.00\00:36:31.98
a great deal of
time examining even in,
00:36:31.99\00:36:34.66
in the new, the new world.
00:36:35.05\00:36:37.45
How did sin
enter into this world?
00:36:38.12\00:36:40.14
It's a mystery
because if you consider that
00:36:40.15\00:36:44.05
everything was
perfect, every, every,
00:36:44.06\00:36:46.56
every being was perfect.
00:36:46.57\00:36:50.01
No sign, no hint of
any wickedness anywhere,
00:36:51.90\00:36:58.53
it was just perfect everywhere
00:36:58.91\00:37:01.18
until it says in the Bible.
00:37:01.19\00:37:03.56
Inequity
surfaced or sprung up in a
00:37:04.56\00:37:10.19
being called Lucifer.
And so, there are in several
00:37:10.20\00:37:16.28
places we could go to,
but perhaps Ezekiel 28,
00:37:16.29\00:37:19.59
okay, we want to start.
00:37:19.60\00:37:21.03
Okay, lets start in Ezekiel 28.
00:37:21.04\00:37:22.74
It's always good to
see the picture you know,
00:37:24.57\00:37:28.03
often times you
have to look at something
00:37:28.04\00:37:30.76
how God intended it
to be, so that you could
00:37:30.77\00:37:33.85
either appreciate how
it's become or understand
00:37:33.86\00:37:38.56
that God never
intended it to be that way.
00:37:38.57\00:37:40.63
Lets start in Ezekiel
28, and the Lord is going to
00:37:42.00\00:37:45.30
use the King of Tyre or Tyre,
00:37:45.31\00:37:47.16
how we wanna say
that. In an allegorical way
00:37:47.17\00:37:50.34
to describe the
creation of the Satan,
00:37:50.35\00:37:53.37
but the creation of Lucifer.
00:37:54.13\00:37:56.31
That's right, okay.
Not the creation of Satan,
00:37:56.73\00:37:58.95
but the creation
of Lucifer. Now, I've,
00:37:59.37\00:38:02.65
I've to, it's terrible
we pick on Hitler so much.
00:38:02.66\00:38:05.33
Well, if we're
surprise that he makes it that
00:38:07.14\00:38:08.87
will be the surprise of
the, of hall of humanity,
00:38:08.88\00:38:11.87
but when he was
born surely I doubt his
00:38:12.28\00:38:15.50
mother looked down and said,
00:38:15.51\00:38:16.48
oh what a beautiful dictator?
00:38:16.49\00:38:19.67
What a beautiful
tyrant? Oh! I'm looking forward
00:38:20.18\00:38:22.62
to the day when he consents the
00:38:22.63\00:38:24.53
death of millions
and millions of people.
00:38:24.54\00:38:26.60
That was not her
intention of having that son
00:38:28.13\00:38:31.55
born was not to
become what he had become.
00:38:31.56\00:38:33.79
When God created
Lucifer, nowadays the
00:38:34.43\00:38:38.18
word Lucifer it's
just synonymous to Satan
00:38:38.19\00:38:40.31
in our minds, but Lucifer has a
00:38:40.32\00:38:42.17
beautiful meaning
to the name. Yes, yeah.
00:38:42.18\00:38:44.22
Why don't you read
that for us? In Ezekiel 28
00:38:44.23\00:38:49.11
beginning with
verse 12. Verse 12,
00:38:49.55\00:38:53.61
"Son of man, take
up a lamentation upon
00:38:54.40\00:38:57.10
the King of
Tyrus, and say unto him,
00:38:57.11\00:39:00.85
Thus saith the Lord
God; Thou sealest up the sum,
00:39:00.86\00:39:04.38
and full of wisdom,
and perfect in beauty."
00:39:04.39\00:39:06.74
Again we're gonna
be looking as a symbol
00:39:08.25\00:39:10.59
here the King of Tyrus,
00:39:10.60\00:39:11.77
you siad the symbol
of Satan or Lucifer,
00:39:12.91\00:39:15.10
but notice a
description of this individual
00:39:15.61\00:39:18.10
being described
here and as we read it,
00:39:18.11\00:39:21.12
you will come to the conclusion
00:39:21.13\00:39:22.29
that it could not be a
human being. Not possible.
00:39:22.30\00:39:26.27
Well, first of all it says,
00:39:26.28\00:39:27.59
"Full of wisdom
and perfect in beauty.
00:39:27.60\00:39:30.20
Thou hast been in
Eden the garden of God,
00:39:30.21\00:39:34.15
every precious
stone was thy covering,
00:39:35.79\00:39:37.58
the sardius, the
topaz, and the diamond,
00:39:38.65\00:39:41.06
the beryl, the onyx,
the jasper, the sapphire,
00:39:41.42\00:39:44.00
the emerald, and
the carbuncle, and gold:
00:39:44.01\00:39:46.71
the workmanship of
thy tabrets and of thy
00:39:47.15\00:39:49.60
pipes was
prepared in thee in the day
00:39:49.61\00:39:52.50
that thou was
created." What a description?
00:39:52.51\00:39:55.75
He was beautiful or
shall we say, he was handsome,
00:39:56.60\00:40:00.59
he was glorious. We
use the word handsome
00:40:00.95\00:40:03.89
and beautiful describe humans,
00:40:03.90\00:40:05.24
but he was glorious
that God that made him,
00:40:05.49\00:40:07.87
the glory of God was
just emanating, was radiating,
00:40:08.24\00:40:11.73
was reflecting
from his character.
00:40:11.74\00:40:13.28
A beautiful,
beautiful individual,
00:40:13.65\00:40:16.69
if you could say that
way, but one of the things
00:40:17.05\00:40:20.19
that helps us as a clue
here is that this is not
00:40:20.20\00:40:23.28
the then reigning
King of Tyrus is that
00:40:24.06\00:40:26.59
he says that this
person was in Eden.
00:40:26.60\00:40:29.25
And so, we know that
when Adam and Eve sinned,
00:40:30.41\00:40:32.83
they were cast out,
interestingly we see here
00:40:33.09\00:40:37.65
Lucifer was, I mean,
you see, yeah Lucifer,
00:40:38.10\00:40:40.46
that he became Satan
was cast out of heaven.
00:40:40.47\00:40:42.89
Adam and Eve when
they sinned they were cast
00:40:43.32\00:40:45.49
out of their home,
which was the Garden of Eden.
00:40:45.50\00:40:48.29
And so anyway,
anyway it says here
00:40:48.30\00:40:50.08
that Lucifer have
been in Eden, interesting.
00:40:50.09\00:40:54.82
But it goes to verse 14 now and
00:40:55.64\00:40:57.14
talks about His
creation. Go ahead to that one.
00:40:57.15\00:41:00.63
Thou are the anointed cherub.
00:41:00.64\00:41:02.31
Another part
that helps to see that
00:41:02.32\00:41:03.65
it was not regular person.
00:41:03.66\00:41:05.01
"Thou are the
anointed cherub that covereth
00:41:05.45\00:41:07.30
and I have set thee so:
00:41:07.31\00:41:08.91
thou wast upon the
holy mountain of God;
00:41:08.92\00:41:12.51
thou hast walked
up and down in the
00:41:13.37\00:41:15.20
midst of the stones of fire.
00:41:15.21\00:41:17.38
Thou wast perfect in
thy ways from the day
00:41:18.84\00:41:21.54
that thou wast created,
00:41:21.55\00:41:22.62
till iniquity was
found in thee." Wow!
00:41:23.01\00:41:27.57
Until so in other
words we have metal
00:41:29.42\00:41:34.10
detectors nowadays
at the airport. Oh! Yes.
00:41:34.11\00:41:37.70
And we're just so
amazingly happy that
00:41:38.34\00:41:41.21
they have those
things, but on the other side
00:41:41.22\00:41:43.76
it could be pretty inconvenient.
00:41:43.77\00:41:44.74
We, we think that
lotion is necessary,
00:41:46.24\00:41:48.94
but the airport
believes that a certain
00:41:49.68\00:41:51.14
amount of lotion
is not necessary,
00:41:51.15\00:41:52.77
if it's beyond 3
ounces, or 3.5 ounces,
00:41:53.86\00:41:55.93
they say that's unnecessary.
00:41:55.94\00:41:57.13
We want to all
smell good, we have our
00:41:58.40\00:42:00.44
perfumes and our
colognes, but the airport TSA,
00:42:01.41\00:42:05.43
Transportation Safety
Administration believes
00:42:05.80\00:42:07.67
ounces of colognes,
00:42:07.68\00:42:09.71
you don't need
that much on a plane.
00:42:09.72\00:42:11.05
Some people will
agree that you don't need
00:42:11.84\00:42:13.09
it at all, if
they have aversion to,
00:42:13.10\00:42:16.41
or if they don't like
the sweet, sweet smelling
00:42:16.82\00:42:19.16
things around them, they'll
say I agree with the TSA.
00:42:19.17\00:42:21.59
My point is that
when, when you step up
00:42:22.32\00:42:25.82
to the counter
people don't always
00:42:25.83\00:42:29.38
appear the way they really are?
00:42:29.89\00:42:31.51
When God created
Lucifer, he was perfect on the
00:42:33.15\00:42:37.01
way; he was perfect in
the way that he was created?
00:42:37.02\00:42:39.93
Every precious
stone was his covering.
00:42:39.94\00:42:41.61
He walked back in forth in the
00:42:42.36\00:42:43.70
presence of God
and the fiery stones.
00:42:43.71\00:42:45.84
He was the seal of perfection.
00:42:46.18\00:42:47.73
Everything that God
intended to be in His life
00:42:48.49\00:42:50.85
was there until,
yes, inequity was found.
00:42:50.86\00:42:54.83
He went through the
great detector of heaven.
00:42:55.24\00:42:57.70
And because
inside of Him there was a
00:42:58.12\00:43:00.36
displeasure that
he allowed to be born.
00:43:00.37\00:43:03.11
You know, sometimes there are
00:43:03.12\00:43:04.75
people that don't like
broccoli. That's right.
00:43:04.76\00:43:06.72
There are some people
00:43:07.14\00:43:08.11
that don't like cauliflower.
00:43:08.12\00:43:09.09
There are some
people that do not eat
00:43:09.48\00:43:10.66
vegetables and if
you, if you, if you present
00:43:10.67\00:43:13.21
them before them
and if you could scan
00:43:13.22\00:43:15.73
the way they're
thinking right now, you'll see
00:43:15.74\00:43:18.26
that this, this feeling
of rejection is born in them.
00:43:18.27\00:43:23.20
This feeling
of, I'm not going to
00:43:23.71\00:43:24.97
eat that it's born in them.
00:43:24.98\00:43:26.29
And Jesus and many of
His examples in scripture,
00:43:26.69\00:43:29.45
He was looking
at people and say,
00:43:29.78\00:43:31.04
why are you
thinking that? You see,
00:43:31.34\00:43:33.24
He is the
discerner of the thoughts
00:43:33.25\00:43:35.49
and intends of our heart.
00:43:35.50\00:43:36.47
So, looking at, at
Lucifer that He created,
00:43:36.48\00:43:39.61
He knew the very
moment that this displeasure
00:43:39.97\00:43:44.13
was born in Him and
He said that in His word.
00:43:44.14\00:43:48.12
And you'll see
clearly the, the dividing line
00:43:48.86\00:43:51.54
between who he
was, yes, in God's hand
00:43:51.55\00:43:54.59
and who he
became is in verse 15.
00:43:54.60\00:43:56.93
I'll read verse 15 and
16 in Ezekiel chapter 28,
00:43:56.94\00:44:00.69
"You were perfect in
your ways from the day you
00:44:01.37\00:44:03.97
were created, till
iniquity was found in you."
00:44:03.98\00:44:06.06
And then He goes
on to see what happen.
00:44:06.40\00:44:08.30
"By the abundance of
your trading you became
00:44:08.73\00:44:11.28
filled with violence
within, and you sinned;
00:44:11.29\00:44:14.28
Therefore I cast
you as a profane thing,
00:44:15.72\00:44:18.95
notice the word here, out,
00:44:19.82\00:44:21.78
cast out of the mountain of God.
00:44:23.06\00:44:25.61
And I destroyed
you, O covering cherub,
00:44:26.15\00:44:29.02
From the midst of the
stones. Notice he said,
00:44:29.40\00:44:33.13
he destroyed him,
but is he destroyed yet?
00:44:33.14\00:44:35.57
No, he was yanked out
of the position he held.
00:44:35.58\00:44:38.34
So, therefore
when you lose your job,
00:44:38.90\00:44:40.27
when you get
fired, some people say
00:44:40.28\00:44:42.21
my life is destroyed,
my career is destroyed.
00:44:42.22\00:44:45.00
You see, so in that
sense he was destroyed
00:44:45.39\00:44:47.86
because he no longer
occupied the position
00:44:47.87\00:44:49.57
of great authority that
he had before he sinned.
00:44:49.58\00:44:52.34
And verse 17, you've that one?
00:44:53.06\00:44:55.20
I have it you
know, here it says,
00:44:55.27\00:44:57.69
I will destroy this
is an event your future,
00:44:57.70\00:45:00.20
but you know, it
was interesting to
00:45:00.21\00:45:02.10
me as we looked at this.
00:45:02.11\00:45:04.27
All the
descriptions that we're given
00:45:04.28\00:45:07.25
is that he was
perfect in all his ways.
00:45:07.26\00:45:11.68
In other words, when God created
00:45:11.69\00:45:14.37
this individual
Lucifer, perfect, I mean,
00:45:14.38\00:45:19.01
if we take the
great metal detector or,
00:45:19.02\00:45:23.09
or whatever
microscope of heaven to see,
00:45:23.10\00:45:27.16
if there is any,
anything wrong coming fresh out
00:45:27.17\00:45:31.41
of the creator's
hands. Oh! Perfect, perfect.
00:45:31.42\00:45:34.96
Now, it says, still
Inequity was found in him,
00:45:34.97\00:45:38.43
I took the liberty
of hereof looking up
00:45:38.44\00:45:40.81
the Hebrew word found as because
00:45:40.82\00:45:45.35
sometimes you may
read it, and you may say,
00:45:45.36\00:45:47.13
oh! It was already there,
00:45:47.14\00:45:48.51
it was not there originally,
00:45:48.52\00:45:50.18
right. Lucifer
allowed it to surface because
00:45:50.19\00:45:53.14
God gave Lucifer
something precious that
00:45:53.15\00:45:55.06
he gives to you, he
gives to everyone of us,
00:45:55.07\00:45:57.37
and that is freedom of choice.
00:45:57.38\00:45:59.80
He had freedom of choice,
00:45:59.81\00:46:01.68
freedom to
choose what he wanted.
00:46:01.69\00:46:03.77
And he chose to sin, to
allow sin to surface in his
00:46:03.78\00:46:07.38
mind and continued
working that until inequity,
00:46:07.39\00:46:11.87
it became inequity.
Now, though the Hebrew word
00:46:11.95\00:46:14.17
is Matsa and it
says to come forth
00:46:14.18\00:46:16.85
that is to appear.
And so, it appeared in him
00:46:16.86\00:46:20.66
and he continued working it,
00:46:20.67\00:46:25.06
continue working that
in the mind and developed
00:46:25.07\00:46:26.68
into a deadly,
deadly sin that not only
00:46:26.69\00:46:32.23
is gonna be the,
the cause, causing,
00:46:32.24\00:46:35.45
cause the destruction of him,
00:46:35.46\00:46:36.67
but of many that follow him.
00:46:36.68\00:46:38.23
And so verse 17
you said? That's right;
00:46:39.08\00:46:41.29
verse 17 describes this,
00:46:41.30\00:46:43.13
this birth of this
discomfort in his heart.
00:46:43.14\00:46:47.16
Verse 17, "Thine
heart was lifted up
00:46:47.17\00:46:49.95
because of thy
beauty, thou hast corrupted
00:46:49.96\00:46:53.45
thy wisdom by
reason of thy brightness:
00:46:53.46\00:46:56.38
I will cast thee to the ground,
00:46:56.94\00:46:58.60
I will lay thee
before kings, and that they
00:46:58.61\00:47:01.54
may behold thee." Wow! Wow!
00:47:01.55\00:47:04.98
Here is another one verse 18.
00:47:04.99\00:47:06.67
"You defiled your sanctuaries.
00:47:07.16\00:47:09.63
By the multitude
of your iniquities,
00:47:09.64\00:47:12.03
by the iniquity of your trading;
00:47:12.04\00:47:14.29
therefore I brought
fire from your midst;
00:47:14.30\00:47:17.76
it devoured you."
That he had future.
00:47:17.77\00:47:20.44
Two things in the
future, they will gaze at you.
00:47:20.45\00:47:23.43
And it says: And I
turned you to ashes upon
00:47:24.80\00:47:27.78
the earth in the
sight of all who saw you.
00:47:27.79\00:47:32.89
And all who knew
you among the peoples
00:47:33.87\00:47:37.76
are astonished at you:
You have become a horror,
00:47:37.77\00:47:41.03
and shall be no more forever.
00:47:41.04\00:47:44.04
Wow! Isn't that amazing?
00:47:44.05\00:47:45.74
And we talked
about that in one of our
00:47:45.75\00:47:47.24
prior programs how
when sin is destroyed,
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sin will be no more forever.
00:47:49.44\00:47:51.46
If Satan is gonna be devour,
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if Satan is gonna
be turned to ashes.
00:47:53.09\00:47:54.79
If God's gonna kindle a
fire from the midst of him
00:47:54.80\00:47:56.87
and destroy him, and
the side of those who
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knew him, why would
sin is burned for ever
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and ever and ever,
when Satan is in fact
00:48:00.95\00:48:02.70
the culprit. It's like saying,
00:48:02.71\00:48:04.21
you're gonna put
the German soldiers
00:48:04.22\00:48:05.44
in prison for 25 life sentences,
00:48:05.45\00:48:07.46
you will give Hitler two weeks.
00:48:07.47\00:48:09.31
You know, it's
kind of strange to hear
00:48:10.54\00:48:12.83
that sometimes. They get people
00:48:12.84\00:48:15.14
double life
sentences and things like that
00:48:15.15\00:48:17.52
knowing that they're
really not gonna live
00:48:17.53\00:48:19.15
two lives, but here
is an unfortunate thing
00:48:19.16\00:48:23.65
that inequity or sin was
born in this perfect being.
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And it's unfortunate,
and it's a mystery how it,
00:48:28.94\00:48:32.76
it first began, but
he had freedom of choice
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and he choose to
allow this to grow in him.
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And it's, as it says
here, you corrupted yourself,
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that's a choice.
And, and when you look
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at that whole thing,
so the, the birth of sin,
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how sin began was not
some formula that God had,
00:48:53.77\00:48:57.44
it was not some
burp or some crook in his
00:48:57.45\00:49:00.58
creative process,
because it says, you were
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perfect from the day
that you were created.
00:49:03.13\00:49:05.41
You were perfect,
when God speaks about
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perfection is perfection.
It's not like us nowadays.
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Matter of fact, you buy
an new car and then other
00:49:10.54\00:49:13.01
car is not
perfect, so they've all
00:49:13.02\00:49:14.47
of these devices tell
you, when you change the oil,
00:49:14.48\00:49:16.58
they've GPS to tell
you when you're going in
00:49:16.59\00:49:18.54
a wrong direction,
they have all these things
00:49:18.55\00:49:20.78
to tell you when your
tire pressure is too low,
00:49:20.79\00:49:22.27
they've monitoring
system to let you know
00:49:22.28\00:49:24.21
what's gonna happen,
when it's going to happen.
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The Lord had a
monitoring system also.
00:49:25.55\00:49:28.33
He understood the heart,
00:49:28.34\00:49:30.13
He understood the thoughts,
00:49:30.14\00:49:31.28
He understood the intentions,
00:49:31.29\00:49:32.69
He knew his
creatures, and He gave them
00:49:32.70\00:49:35.22
something you
pointed it out, he gave them
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the power to choose.
And some people could
00:49:37.30\00:49:39.17
choose to do evil, some
could choose to do good,
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but sin was born in Lucifer
when he chose to do evil.
00:49:41.73\00:49:49.22
And he continued in that path,
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which called it
inequity? But yet,
00:49:51.25\00:49:54.09
sin had not been
in the world yet.
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That's right, okay.
And so, it's somewhat
00:49:55.99\00:49:59.02
comforting to know
that sin did not begin here,
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it begun in heaven
which is sad to hear that,
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but one of the
things that we see here
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is that he was full
of wisdom to the degree
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that he then hid what was in his
00:50:14.30\00:50:19.04
heart and his goal to,
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I guess we're gonna be
looking that in Isaiah 14.
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His goal to be
above God or to be as God.
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And so he, he
disguised all these things
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and had the wisdom
and used that wisdom in a,
00:50:33.37\00:50:38.72
in a wicked way to deceive,
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the Bible says up to one third
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of the angels of heaven.
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Wow! Amazing. That serious,
00:50:45.33\00:50:47.09
that shows you that
if, if, if perfect beings
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can be deceive,
how easy would it be
00:50:51.45\00:50:54.02
to deceive imperfect beings.
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And it's strange
enough that when Jesus
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talked about the
last days in Matthew 24,
00:50:57.51\00:50:59.05
the first thing he
said is, "Take heed that
00:50:59.06\00:51:00.58
no man deceive
you." Wow! See, he said
00:51:00.59\00:51:03.23
this is how it began
and this is how is gonna
00:51:03.24\00:51:05.24
wind up, deception is
gonna be at it's height
00:51:05.25\00:51:07.25
in the last days
that's why we use God's word,
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keep you from being deceived.
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Now, we, we segue to Isaiah 14
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and we're gonna see
this because Ezekiel talks
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about him falling
and then the question is
00:51:17.53\00:51:19.51
asked by Isaiah. How
did you get this way?
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Read that for us, Isaiah
14 beginning with verse 12.
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Verse 12, "How art
thou fallen from heaven,
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O Lucifer, son
of the morning, how.
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art thou cut down
to the ground which did
00:51:31.17\00:51:33.36
weaken the
nations?" And he goes on to
00:51:33.37\00:51:37.10
describe his
problems, go ahead and.
00:51:37.11\00:51:41.48
"For thou hast
said in thine heart,
00:51:41.49\00:51:42.99
I will ascend into
heaven, I will exalt my throne
00:51:43.00\00:51:49.64
above the stars of God:
I will sit upon the mount
00:51:49.65\00:51:53.45
of the congregation,
in the sides of the north.
00:51:53.46\00:51:56.19
I will ascend above
the height of the clouds;
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I will be like the most High."
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Wow! Look at the
response to all of that
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I will, I will, I
will, I will, I will, I will,
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Lord says, "Yet thou
shalt be brought down
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to hell, to the
sides of the pit."
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So, he says you will?
Let me tell you what's
00:52:16.21\00:52:19.22
really gonna
happen? You're gonna be
00:52:19.23\00:52:20.83
brought down to hell
to the sides of the pit.
00:52:20.84\00:52:23.15
And Peter talks
about that how the Lord,
00:52:23.55\00:52:25.35
how the Lord
reserved, the only place in the
00:52:25.83\00:52:28.53
New Testament we
find the word Tartarus.
00:52:28.54\00:52:30.32
The word Hell there,
Tartarus in the Greek
00:52:31.74\00:52:33.91
speaks about that
spirit world that right now
00:52:34.28\00:52:37.49
we cannot see demons, we cannot
00:52:37.50\00:52:39.14
see angels with our naked eye.
00:52:39.15\00:52:40.78
But one day we
will be able to see,
00:52:41.36\00:52:42.98
we will be able
to gaze upon the very
00:52:42.99\00:52:44.86
one as Ezekiel said,
we will be able to see
00:52:44.87\00:52:48.01
Him with His eyes,
with our eyes and we
00:52:48.02\00:52:50.49
would say, we would
say something of Him.
00:52:50.50\00:52:53.91
We would, we
would finally, finally
00:52:54.51\00:52:56.84
lay the blame
where it should be.
00:52:56.85\00:52:59.42
Now, this is
important John because although
00:52:59.94\00:53:01.97
we're not gonna go
through all the particulars
00:53:01.98\00:53:03.29
of this, we're
talking about how sin began?
00:53:03.30\00:53:05.10
We know all the
results of sin, Adam's sin,
00:53:05.92\00:53:07.79
people's sin, dies,
disease, starvation,
00:53:07.80\00:53:10.29
death all that.
We're talking about how
00:53:10.30\00:53:11.95
it all started and
the reason why I think
00:53:11.96\00:53:13.31
this is so
important is because God gets
00:53:13.32\00:53:15.62
blamed so often, yes,
so why did God allow it,
00:53:15.63\00:53:19.15
and why did God,
and some churches say,
00:53:20.06\00:53:21.55
well I've heard
a Pastor say this.
00:53:21.56\00:53:23.50
I think this is a
terrible thing when
00:53:23.51\00:53:25.52
somebody dies,
the pastor would say,
00:53:25.53\00:53:27.17
well God needed another angel in
00:53:27.61\00:53:29.27
heaven so he took your mother.
00:53:29.28\00:53:30.49
Well, he took
your baby daughter.
00:53:30.94\00:53:33.02
It makes, makes, makes God sound
00:53:33.03\00:53:34.85
like an
assassin, yes. You know God
00:53:35.27\00:53:37.34
killed today on the
way to school because
00:53:37.35\00:53:38.75
he needed another little angel.
00:53:38.76\00:53:40.08
And that's the
character assassination that is
00:53:40.84\00:53:44.12
what we don't
support, and the scripture
00:53:44.13\00:53:45.63
doesn't support that.
00:53:45.64\00:53:46.61
See Satan brought devastation,
00:53:46.92\00:53:48.79
death and that's why
if you ever read the book,
00:53:48.80\00:53:50.90
the oldest book in the
Bible is the Book of Job.
00:53:50.91\00:53:52.87
You read the devastation
he caused to Job's family
00:53:54.06\00:53:56.21
and the blessings that came upon
00:53:56.58\00:53:58.20
Job seven times more is God.
00:53:58.21\00:54:00.31
That's right. But look
at this. Isaiah 14 verse 16,
00:54:00.32\00:54:06.59
you want to read that
for us? Sure, verse 16,
00:54:07.41\00:54:10.25
"They that see thee
shall narrowly look upon thee,
00:54:11.16\00:54:15.34
and consider thee, saying:
00:54:15.35\00:54:16.92
Is this the man
that made the earth to
00:54:17.31\00:54:20.30
tremble, that
did shake kingdoms.
00:54:20.31\00:54:23.78
That made the world
as a wilderness, and
00:54:24.26\00:54:26.64
destroyed the
cities thereof, that opened
00:54:26.65\00:54:29.24
not the house of the prisoners?"
00:54:29.25\00:54:31.05
Okay, now let stop
there. Are you the one that
00:54:31.06\00:54:34.57
caused all this
trouble? Yes, that's why when
00:54:34.58\00:54:38.07
Jesus said in
Matthew 24 John, if they say,
00:54:38.08\00:54:41.74
here is the Christ or
there, do not believe it.
00:54:41.75\00:54:43.43
Satan in the last
days is going to come
00:54:44.36\00:54:46.47
and appear like Christ;
He is going to personate Him,
00:54:46.48\00:54:49.88
and when we finally see
who is behind this facade.
00:54:50.28\00:54:53.33
We're going to
see you're the one,
00:54:54.93\00:54:57.03
you're the one that
made the earth tremble.
00:54:57.54\00:55:00.35
You're the one that
that shook kingdoms and,
00:55:00.36\00:55:03.12
and made the
world as a wilderness.
00:55:03.52\00:55:05.48
You're the one that
destroyed the cities and
00:55:05.49\00:55:07.72
you didn't even let
those who are bound free.
00:55:07.73\00:55:10.32
You see, wow! And as
we were talking about
00:55:11.15\00:55:14.46
that you may, wanna
make, wanna make some comments.
00:55:14.47\00:55:16.37
Oh! Yes, you know, he will be,
00:55:16.38\00:55:18.07
he will be
thoroughly unmasked, okay.
00:55:18.72\00:55:20.81
Satan, Lucifer,
words you may want to
00:55:22.31\00:55:25.13
use here at this moment.
00:55:25.14\00:55:26.21
We don't know how
long God patiently
00:55:27.47\00:55:29.81
worked with him to
try to help him turn away
00:55:29.82\00:55:33.37
from these wicked
desires that came upon his heart
00:55:33.38\00:55:36.34
because it says, thou
did say in your heart.
00:55:36.35\00:55:38.75
So, he did not really
openly at first manifest
00:55:39.55\00:55:42.59
his plans to the third of the
00:55:42.60\00:55:44.71
angels that fell with him.
00:55:44.72\00:55:46.68
They believe they
were standing up for a
00:55:47.48\00:55:49.14
good cause
apparently until to the point of
00:55:49.15\00:55:54.07
John that, they rose
up against their creator.
00:55:54.48\00:55:58.61
These third of the
angels have fell with him,
00:55:59.75\00:56:01.50
isn't that
terrible? Is, is that's how
00:56:01.51\00:56:04.04
deceiving evil is?
That you think you're upon
00:56:04.05\00:56:08.57
the right cause and
you're upon the wrong one.
00:56:08.58\00:56:10.71
And in the same
manner like you said,
00:56:11.20\00:56:12.78
Satan in the end is
gonna personate Christ.
00:56:13.11\00:56:15.33
And they're gonna
think he is Christ and
00:56:16.00\00:56:19.07
it's gonna take up a
cause against God himself.
00:56:19.08\00:56:22.95
That's right, it's
a sad thing, sin is so
00:56:23.75\00:56:26.27
diabolical that it
can make the one who has
00:56:26.28\00:56:28.45
made the right
choice look like the one,
00:56:28.46\00:56:29.87
who is really the
real, real problem.
00:56:29.88\00:56:31.78
Until finally
and this is why the
00:56:32.63\00:56:34.59
Great Controversy,
those who ask why do
00:56:34.60\00:56:36.64
good things
happen or that bad things
00:56:36.65\00:56:38.47
happen to good people.
00:56:38.48\00:56:39.45
The Great Controversy
sin is being unmasked
00:56:39.60\00:56:41.75
little at a time, a
little at a time and then
00:56:42.25\00:56:45.30
finally 2nd
Thessalonians 2 and verse 3.
00:56:45.31\00:56:48.05
"Let no one
deceive you by any means,
00:56:48.40\00:56:50.82
amen, for that
day will not come,
00:56:50.83\00:56:52.75
except there comes
a falling away first,
00:56:52.76\00:56:54.94
and the man of sin be revealed,
00:56:55.63\00:56:57.70
the son of
perdition; who oppose and exalts
00:56:58.17\00:57:01.34
himself above all
that is called God,
00:57:01.35\00:57:03.21
all that is worship;
so that He sits in the
00:57:03.91\00:57:06.32
temple of God, showing
himself that he is God."
00:57:06.33\00:57:08.29
Not only does this
represent powers of
00:57:08.30\00:57:09.85
the earth that are
aligned with Satan,
00:57:09.86\00:57:12.09
but one day Satan
will have his last hurrah,
00:57:12.73\00:57:14.73
making the world
think that he is Jesus.
00:57:15.46\00:57:17.14
And we have the Bible
tells us that we need to
00:57:17.76\00:57:22.00
keep our eyes on
Jesus, so that we will not be
00:57:22.01\00:57:24.14
deceived and we encourage you
00:57:24.15\00:57:25.12
to keep your eyes
on the real Jesus.
00:57:25.13\00:57:27.08
That's right
friends, so keep House Calls
00:57:27.09\00:57:29.05
in your eyes and
the Lord in your heart
00:57:29.06\00:57:31.35
until we see you again.
00:57:31.36\00:57:32.58
God bless you, and
have a great day in Christ.
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