Global Mission Snapshots

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Participants: Gary Krause (Host)

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Program Code: GMS000902A


00:09 The San Antonio River walk is one of the most popular
00:12 tourist destinations in all of Texas.
00:15 Just 20 feet below street level,
00:17 it's like a different world down here.
00:19 The sights and sounds of San Antonio
00:21 and much more coming up next on "Global Mission Snapshots."
00:30 Just before He went up to heaven,
00:33 Jesus gave us a command.
00:36 He gave us a mission.
00:39 Jesus said, "Go" "Go unto all the world."
00:44 Telling them of His love.
00:46 This is our mission.
00:48 This is our Global Mission."
00:56 Hello and welcome to today's program.
00:58 I am Gary Krause.
01:00 The San Antonio River walk is a network of path ways
01:04 in downtown San Antonio, that makes its way
01:07 along the banks of the San Antonio river.
01:10 It's a beautiful area where tourists love to come
01:12 and just walk
01:14 and this river walk goes under bridges,
01:16 around buildings, through streets,
01:18 connecting and intersecting the community.
01:21 And for me that's a wonderful metaphor of the Christian life
01:24 because we too are called to connect and intersect
01:27 with our communities just like Jesus did.
01:30 On today's program
01:32 we will meet a young missionary doctor,
01:34 who has been fighting Ebola in West Africa.
01:37 We'll also talk with Doctor Richard Hart
01:39 the president of Loma Linda University,
01:42 which supports medical work around the world
01:44 particularly in very needy areas.
01:47 But first up, let's visit some Waldensian students
01:51 making a difference in the Middle East.
01:55 We are here in the Waldensian Valleys
01:56 in Northern Italy.
01:58 It's so incredible to be in such a historic place.
02:02 Ellen white herself visited here on numerous occasions
02:05 and she wrote that it was "here,
02:07 the light of truth was kept burning,
02:09 amid the darkness of Middle Ages."
02:15 I'm privileged to be at one of the caves,
02:17 where Waldensian people used to come
02:19 and worshipped in secret.
02:20 For centuries these mountains where home to Waldenses,
02:24 who's simple faith in God and the Bible
02:27 endured through horrible hardship and prosecution,
02:30 freezing winters, sheltering in rough caves
02:33 and witnessing the massacre of friends and family.
02:38 One of the reasons why Waldensian were prosecuted
02:42 is well, because they couldn't keep
02:43 the good news of gospel to themselves.
02:46 They felt that God required more of them,
02:48 than to just simply just preserve truth in its purity
02:52 in their own churches,
02:54 that a solemn responsibility rested upon them,
02:57 to let their light shine forth to those who are in darkness.
03:03 This is the old school where young Waldenses
03:06 came to receive training as missionaries
03:08 and then they were sent out as students
03:10 to many universities in Italy and France.
03:13 Their clothes had secret compartments
03:16 where they could hide precious manuscripts,
03:18 portions of scripture,
03:20 that where the results of months even years of toil
03:24 and when it was safe
03:25 they shared those precious pages
03:27 with the people they met.
03:33 Today, in Middle East and North Africa union
03:36 Adventist young people are going out
03:38 as modern day Waldensian students.
03:41 They attend universities in areas where it is not easy
03:45 or not possible to preach the gospel.
03:47 They mingle, they make friends and when possible,
03:51 they share their faith.
03:53 These students come from all over the world.
03:56 They learn the local language they can study
03:58 but it also helps them to share.
04:01 Sam talked with some of these modern day Waldensian students
04:05 and because of where they're working
04:06 their identities will remain hidden.
04:12 We go to universities and meet students
04:15 and we share about gospel.
04:18 So your primary purpose is to study or to meet people.
04:23 Meet people, study is second thing.
04:27 So you're like a secret agent. Kind of.
04:30 Okay, so you're there to specifically try and mingle
04:34 and mix with people and how has that been for you,
04:37 has it been easy to try and connect with people?
04:41 Of course, first time not easy but always when we ask God
04:48 we want to meet friend and you know,
04:52 this is not our work, this is heaven's work,
04:55 so you have responsibility to meet people,
05:01 when we pray God,
05:04 He'll always give us some friends.
05:07 Right, right.
05:08 I've got some opportunities but people come--
05:12 usually people come and ask
05:14 because they are curious, I see.
05:17 I'm thinking of one friend in particular.
05:20 We were sitting and in class one day,
05:23 the teacher was absent for being sick
05:25 and so we are just studying
05:27 and we struck up a conversation together.
05:30 She told me that she has been seeking
05:33 to understand God better.
05:34 I shared with her that,
05:36 the best way that I've been able to understand God
05:39 was to look at Jesus
05:41 and to see His love and compassion.
05:45 At the end he asked me, "Do you have a Bible?"
05:50 He asked you for Bible?
05:51 Yes, he asked me and I got one
05:53 and I put some verse in the Bible about Jesus
06:00 and I gave the Bible.
06:02 We went to-- in this Mall Street in the night
06:04 and the last day I gave the Bible
06:06 because he was soldier.
06:09 This is like a scene out of the Bible
06:10 like your Nicodemus coming by night;
06:12 this is like OO Agent stuff.
06:14 It's exciting.
06:15 Yes, and I was little bit afraid
06:18 because he was a soldier,
06:19 he was my friend but you'll never know.
06:22 So that why I always ask God.
06:25 And when you ask God?
06:27 Please help this friends open eyes to you.
06:31 Is there something that we need to do more?
06:34 Yes, of course,
06:35 when I was there I was thinking,
06:37 oh, the church, they need to send more people,
06:40 we need more help.
06:42 There's a lot people there that they want to listen more,
06:44 love Jesus really and-- but there's no people.
06:48 He cares individually about each of us.
06:50 I firmly believe that He is already
06:53 powerfully working in this country
06:54 before I ever set foot there
06:56 before anyone else has ever come.
07:04 I'm delighted to introduce to you,
07:06 Doctor Gillian Seaton
07:08 who is one of the infection control directors
07:10 at SDA Cooper hospital in Liberia in West Africa.
07:14 Thanks, Gillian. You're welcome.
07:15 You know, over the past several months,
07:18 the whole world has been focusing on a country
07:20 which many people had never even heard of before,
07:24 Liberia with Ebola, we use the word crisis,
07:27 and I guess, it was a crisis,
07:29 I mean, can you just describe for me,
07:31 what it was like living in Liberia during that time.
07:35 It was a bit of chaos and a bit of a same old story
07:40 of something going wrong without the resources to fix it
07:44 that happens very often.
07:46 Unfortunately, this was an outbreak
07:48 that you would only think about in terms of Hollywood,
07:50 the drama, the danger, etc., etc.
07:53 It was a bit unreal through the whole crisis actually.
07:58 It was difficult to watch others
08:04 struggle with the fear of diseases,
08:05 you know, I like to think that I understand
08:07 that the science behind the disease,
08:09 that the risk of contact etc. but for most Africans,
08:13 they don't really understand germs and viruses
08:15 and what that means to them in terms of the risk.
08:17 So you have this significant threat without actually being--
08:21 something you could focus the blame or the anger on.
08:24 You just have this thing that's happening to you,
08:26 in your family, in your community.
08:27 And it was so wide spread
08:29 so far reaching that not many individuals
08:31 escaped some grief.
08:34 Most of our workers had family or friends
08:36 that died of the disease.
08:37 The medical community was decimated,
08:40 doctors, nurses, aids, cleaners
08:43 so many people died due to exposures.
08:45 Even security officers of the hospitals,
08:47 would often lend a hand to help patients in and out,
08:50 take care of them,
08:51 where all sort of significantly had risk of that,
08:53 without really understanding how there were getting it.
08:55 And so it was this huge struggle with education,
08:57 distribution of resources to help,
08:59 even just a pair of gloves can make a world of difference
09:01 in terms of your exposure risk.
09:03 But those were not routinely distributed
09:06 to hospitals and clinics and so they were facing
09:08 this out break without any training,
09:09 without any of those basic resources
09:11 that we take for granted here in US.
09:14 And so it was just massive struggle to try to get people
09:17 to continue in their life saving capacities
09:20 and yet not put their lives at such high risk
09:23 as well as their family lives
09:24 because if one person become sick
09:26 the entire family is likely to be exposed.
09:30 It wiped out whole villages, whole families, you know.
09:34 One family member might survive
09:37 but then there are neighbors, there are carpenters,
09:39 their extended family were all be at risk
09:41 of getting the disease.
09:43 There is a lot of denial,
09:44 the first three to five months of the outbreak
09:47 that people didn't want to believe Ebola really exist
09:49 and it was a conspiracy of from the government
09:51 to get money from the West.
09:52 It was a curse, it was-- people stealing bodies
09:56 for spiritual rituals in face of politics
09:59 and soon to be elections.
10:03 That was difficult because people didn't want to believe
10:05 that they could get this disease
10:07 by helping someone else
10:08 and so they would go and reach to the family members
10:11 take care of them,
10:12 without any protective equipment
10:13 or soap or chlorine to wash their hands with
10:15 and so the disease spread further
10:17 and further and further.
10:19 For me, I felt like I can understand the risk
10:21 and so I can take calculated risks
10:25 or take measures to protect myself.
10:27 But everybody else didn't really have that assurance,
10:30 and so for them it was hard
10:32 to watch them go through that fear
10:33 and answer that fear
10:35 and really put their lives on the line.
10:36 Their bravery in the phase of all this
10:38 was pretty profound.
10:39 Yeah, now during this time,
10:42 what were your working hours like?
10:46 They escalated pretty rapidly.
10:49 We struggled with the idea of whether we would close
10:51 or stay open in the phase of the crisis,
10:54 be it some more people who are willing to risk,
10:56 we decided to stay open
10:57 but be a non Ebola treatment center
11:00 and that mean we treat malaria and strokes
11:02 and traumas and other things
11:05 that might come up on a day-to-day basis,
11:08 most of the other hospitals in the country closed
11:11 and that meant that we were
11:13 the one of the that few facilities
11:14 that were actually had normal capacity, capabilities.
11:17 So operating room,
11:19 the laboratory and things like that.
11:20 So the only reason I didn't work 24 hours a day
11:23 is that the President enacted in 9 p.m. curfew,
11:25 which people couldn't get transport to the hospital.
11:27 They'd have to wait till next morning.
11:28 So generally until about 8:30, 9 o' clock
11:31 we would be treating patients as fast as we could
11:34 and then at 9 'o' clock things would slow down
11:35 then the only thing we have to worry about overnight
11:37 was it'll be emergencies
11:38 that maybe we'd already admitted
11:40 and still had to deal with.
11:41 And that was exhausting very quickly
11:44 but the curfew alone saved us from sheer burnout.
11:49 Now talking about burnout beforehand you were telling me,
11:52 how many days you work straight without a break.
11:54 Well, I was very lucky in the sense
11:57 that Loma Lindan HI
11:58 contacted some of the previous more experienced doctors
12:02 to come and help and we had three volunteers
12:04 that had previously worked in Africa,
12:06 James Appel, Greg Saunders and Greg Shank,
12:09 and they all provided significant relief for me.
12:12 We were generally so busy when they were there
12:14 that took both of us working as fast as we could
12:15 to manage the issues.
12:18 And then after that
12:19 we actually had a volunteer intern
12:22 come over for three months.
12:23 And her work was profoundly appreciated,
12:25 she took our lot of infectious control, contact with NGOs,
12:28 that were coming in to help and things like that.
12:30 But as she didn't had full training yet,
12:34 she'd basically did out patient in clinic work
12:36 and I took care of the in patients,
12:37 which meant that I was on for 70, 80 days work in a row.
12:40 Unbelievable.
12:42 Yeah, So how does a doctor
12:45 trained at Loma Linda end up working there,
12:48 why not just set up practice here in United States?
12:51 Well, there are certain disadvantages working there
12:53 in the United States.
12:54 Malpractice being one of them.
12:55 Medicare, documentation,
12:58 there is a lot of work without necessarily
13:02 an equal distribution of payment for doctors.
13:05 which is bit of the struggle
13:07 because you get paid a healthy salary,
13:08 which is not necessarily
13:09 reflective of the hours you work.
13:11 But why Mission service?
13:13 Because I felt like that was a way that I could work
13:15 the same amount of hours and get paid less.
13:21 But I wanted my work to mean something directly
13:24 not that helping people in this country
13:26 is less rewarding than it is other places,
13:28 but these are low resource areas,
13:30 especially, in terms of surgical care
13:32 and I'm willing to provide that.
13:34 So why wouldn't I go to those kind of scenarios.
13:36 And the rewards are definitely outweigh
13:39 the disadvantages in my mind.
13:40 Fantastic, well, Gillian, thank you so much
13:43 for what you have done
13:44 for the people of Africa for Mission services,
13:46 just quickly for anyone
13:48 considering being a missionary doctor,
13:49 recommend or not?
13:51 Absolutely, but I think the key
13:53 for any job that you pick in life
13:55 is that you're sure that's what you want.
13:57 All right, one doctor gave me advise,
13:59 if you can imagine yourself happy doing anything else,
14:01 do that other thing.
14:03 And I would say that it's true for this too,
14:04 when you certain you are, where you supposed to be
14:07 then it makes handling all the challenges doable.
14:10 When you are sure that God called you to be
14:12 a certain type of person or certain of professional,
14:15 certain type of missionary,
14:16 then you can handle what comes.
14:19 So I think it's just a matter of an individual making
14:22 that choice yourself,
14:24 certainly made my life survivable,
14:26 is that I knew, beyond a shadow of a doubt
14:29 that God wanted me in Liberia for whatever reason.
14:32 He lead, clearly lead me in that direction
14:34 and so that meant obviously,
14:36 I was supposed to be there during Ebola,
14:39 for a while now afterwards.
14:40 So we'll see what he has next.
14:42 Fantastic.
14:43 Thank you so much for sharing with us.
14:45 Sure.
14:46 We'll be right back straight after this break.


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