The San Antonio River walk is one of the most popular 00:00:09.60\00:00:12.77 tourist destinations in all of Texas. 00:00:12.81\00:00:15.54 Just 20 feet below street level, 00:00:15.58\00:00:17.61 it's like a different world down here. 00:00:17.65\00:00:19.71 The sights and sounds of San Antonio 00:00:19.75\00:00:21.92 and much more coming up next on "Global Mission Snapshots." 00:00:21.95\00:00:25.75 Just before He went up to heaven, 00:00:30.99\00:00:33.56 Jesus gave us a command. 00:00:33.60\00:00:36.50 He gave us a mission. 00:00:36.53\00:00:39.23 Jesus said, "Go" "Go unto all the world." 00:00:39.27\00:00:44.07 Telling them of His love. 00:00:44.11\00:00:46.57 This is our mission. 00:00:46.61\00:00:48.64 This is our Global Mission." 00:00:48.68\00:00:50.48 Hello and welcome to today's program. 00:00:56.82\00:00:58.65 I am Gary Krause. 00:00:58.69\00:01:00.32 The San Antonio River walk is a network of path ways 00:01:00.36\00:01:04.39 in downtown San Antonio, that makes its way 00:01:04.43\00:01:07.43 along the banks of the San Antonio river. 00:01:07.46\00:01:10.17 It's a beautiful area where tourists love to come 00:01:10.20\00:01:12.60 and just walk 00:01:12.63\00:01:13.97 and this river walk goes under bridges, 00:01:14.00\00:01:16.47 around buildings, through streets, 00:01:16.50\00:01:18.74 connecting and intersecting the community. 00:01:18.77\00:01:21.51 And for me that's a wonderful metaphor of the Christian life 00:01:21.54\00:01:24.25 because we too are called to connect and intersect 00:01:24.28\00:01:27.78 with our communities just like Jesus did. 00:01:27.82\00:01:30.69 On today's program 00:01:30.72\00:01:32.05 we will meet a young missionary doctor, 00:01:32.09\00:01:34.32 who has been fighting Ebola in West Africa. 00:01:34.36\00:01:37.39 We'll also talk with Doctor Richard Hart 00:01:37.43\00:01:39.56 the president of Loma Linda University, 00:01:39.59\00:01:42.23 which supports medical work around the world 00:01:42.26\00:01:44.93 particularly in very needy areas. 00:01:44.97\00:01:47.54 But first up, let's visit some Waldensian students 00:01:47.57\00:01:51.07 making a difference in the Middle East. 00:01:51.11\00:01:53.07 We are here in the Waldensian Valleys 00:01:55.01\00:01:56.85 in Northern Italy. 00:01:56.88\00:01:58.25 It's so incredible to be in such a historic place. 00:01:58.28\00:02:02.05 Ellen white herself visited here on numerous occasions 00:02:02.08\00:02:05.39 and she wrote that it was "here, 00:02:05.42\00:02:07.46 the light of truth was kept burning, 00:02:07.49\00:02:09.86 amid the darkness of Middle Ages." 00:02:09.89\00:02:12.09 I'm privileged to be at one of the caves, 00:02:15.03\00:02:17.07 where Waldensian people used to come 00:02:17.10\00:02:19.00 and worshipped in secret. 00:02:19.03\00:02:20.74 For centuries these mountains where home to Waldenses, 00:02:20.77\00:02:24.61 who's simple faith in God and the Bible 00:02:24.64\00:02:27.04 endured through horrible hardship and prosecution, 00:02:27.08\00:02:30.25 freezing winters, sheltering in rough caves 00:02:30.28\00:02:33.62 and witnessing the massacre of friends and family. 00:02:33.65\00:02:38.15 One of the reasons why Waldensian were prosecuted 00:02:38.19\00:02:41.99 is well, because they couldn't keep 00:02:42.02\00:02:43.73 the good news of gospel to themselves. 00:02:43.76\00:02:46.16 They felt that God required more of them, 00:02:46.19\00:02:48.50 than to just simply just preserve truth in its purity 00:02:48.53\00:02:52.37 in their own churches, 00:02:52.40\00:02:54.30 that a solemn responsibility rested upon them, 00:02:54.34\00:02:57.34 to let their light shine forth to those who are in darkness. 00:02:57.37\00:03:03.11 This is the old school where young Waldenses 00:03:03.14\00:03:06.05 came to receive training as missionaries 00:03:06.08\00:03:08.75 and then they were sent out as students 00:03:08.78\00:03:10.85 to many universities in Italy and France. 00:03:10.89\00:03:13.86 Their clothes had secret compartments 00:03:13.89\00:03:16.26 where they could hide precious manuscripts, 00:03:16.29\00:03:18.83 portions of scripture, 00:03:18.86\00:03:20.20 that where the results of months even years of toil 00:03:20.23\00:03:24.13 and when it was safe 00:03:24.17\00:03:25.50 they shared those precious pages 00:03:25.53\00:03:27.60 with the people they met. 00:03:27.64\00:03:29.57 Today, in Middle East and North Africa union 00:03:33.34\00:03:36.64 Adventist young people are going out 00:03:36.68\00:03:38.71 as modern day Waldensian students. 00:03:38.75\00:03:41.45 They attend universities in areas where it is not easy 00:03:41.48\00:03:45.52 or not possible to preach the gospel. 00:03:45.55\00:03:47.96 They mingle, they make friends and when possible, 00:03:47.99\00:03:51.49 they share their faith. 00:03:51.53\00:03:53.66 These students come from all over the world. 00:03:53.70\00:03:56.33 They learn the local language they can study 00:03:56.36\00:03:58.93 but it also helps them to share. 00:03:58.97\00:04:01.54 Sam talked with some of these modern day Waldensian students 00:04:01.57\00:04:05.07 and because of where they're working 00:04:05.11\00:04:06.84 their identities will remain hidden. 00:04:06.88\00:04:08.91 We go to universities and meet students 00:04:12.05\00:04:15.32 and we share about gospel. 00:04:15.35\00:04:18.12 So your primary purpose is to study or to meet people. 00:04:18.15\00:04:22.99 Meet people, study is second thing. 00:04:23.02\00:04:27.80 So you're like a secret agent. Kind of. 00:04:27.83\00:04:30.93 Okay, so you're there to specifically try and mingle 00:04:30.97\00:04:34.64 and mix with people and how has that been for you, 00:04:34.67\00:04:37.41 has it been easy to try and connect with people? 00:04:37.44\00:04:41.68 Of course, first time not easy but always when we ask God 00:04:41.71\00:04:48.52 we want to meet friend and you know, 00:04:48.55\00:04:52.42 this is not our work, this is heaven's work, 00:04:52.45\00:04:55.59 so you have responsibility to meet people, 00:04:55.62\00:05:01.30 when we pray God, 00:05:01.33\00:05:03.97 He'll always give us some friends. 00:05:04.00\00:05:07.10 Right, right. 00:05:07.14\00:05:08.47 I've got some opportunities but people come-- 00:05:08.50\00:05:12.47 usually people come and ask 00:05:12.51\00:05:14.84 because they are curious, I see. 00:05:14.88\00:05:17.85 I'm thinking of one friend in particular. 00:05:17.88\00:05:20.95 We were sitting and in class one day, 00:05:20.98\00:05:23.72 the teacher was absent for being sick 00:05:23.75\00:05:25.89 and so we are just studying 00:05:25.92\00:05:27.92 and we struck up a conversation together. 00:05:27.96\00:05:30.66 She told me that she has been seeking 00:05:30.69\00:05:33.06 to understand God better. 00:05:33.09\00:05:34.73 I shared with her that, 00:05:34.76\00:05:36.33 the best way that I've been able to understand God 00:05:36.36\00:05:39.70 was to look at Jesus 00:05:39.73\00:05:41.74 and to see His love and compassion. 00:05:41.77\00:05:45.71 At the end he asked me, "Do you have a Bible?" 00:05:45.74\00:05:50.28 He asked you for Bible? 00:05:50.31\00:05:51.91 Yes, he asked me and I got one 00:05:51.95\00:05:53.82 and I put some verse in the Bible about Jesus 00:05:53.85\00:06:00.56 and I gave the Bible. 00:06:00.59\00:06:02.09 We went to-- in this Mall Street in the night 00:06:02.12\00:06:04.63 and the last day I gave the Bible 00:06:04.66\00:06:06.83 because he was soldier. 00:06:06.86\00:06:09.46 This is like a scene out of the Bible 00:06:09.50\00:06:10.83 like your Nicodemus coming by night; 00:06:10.87\00:06:12.37 this is like OO Agent stuff. 00:06:12.40\00:06:14.10 It's exciting. 00:06:14.14\00:06:15.47 Yes, and I was little bit afraid 00:06:15.50\00:06:18.07 because he was a soldier, 00:06:18.11\00:06:19.64 he was my friend but you'll never know. 00:06:19.67\00:06:22.28 So that why I always ask God. 00:06:22.31\00:06:25.21 And when you ask God? 00:06:25.25\00:06:27.35 Please help this friends open eyes to you. 00:06:27.38\00:06:31.85 Is there something that we need to do more? 00:06:31.89\00:06:34.26 Yes, of course, 00:06:34.29\00:06:35.82 when I was there I was thinking, 00:06:35.86\00:06:37.26 oh, the church, they need to send more people, 00:06:37.29\00:06:40.50 we need more help. 00:06:40.53\00:06:41.96 There's a lot people there that they want to listen more, 00:06:42.00\00:06:44.63 love Jesus really and-- but there's no people. 00:06:44.67\00:06:48.04 He cares individually about each of us. 00:06:48.07\00:06:50.71 I firmly believe that He is already 00:06:50.74\00:06:53.01 powerfully working in this country 00:06:53.04\00:06:54.54 before I ever set foot there 00:06:54.58\00:06:55.98 before anyone else has ever come. 00:06:56.01\00:06:57.58 I'm delighted to introduce to you, 00:07:04.69\00:07:06.29 Doctor Gillian Seaton 00:07:06.32\00:07:08.02 who is one of the infection control directors 00:07:08.06\00:07:10.23 at SDA Cooper hospital in Liberia in West Africa. 00:07:10.26\00:07:14.03 Thanks, Gillian. You're welcome. 00:07:14.06\00:07:15.73 You know, over the past several months, 00:07:15.76\00:07:18.20 the whole world has been focusing on a country 00:07:18.23\00:07:20.70 which many people had never even heard of before, 00:07:20.74\00:07:24.34 Liberia with Ebola, we use the word crisis, 00:07:24.37\00:07:27.68 and I guess, it was a crisis, 00:07:27.71\00:07:29.04 I mean, can you just describe for me, 00:07:29.08\00:07:31.18 what it was like living in Liberia during that time. 00:07:31.21\00:07:35.28 It was a bit of chaos and a bit of a same old story 00:07:35.32\00:07:40.82 of something going wrong without the resources to fix it 00:07:40.86\00:07:44.49 that happens very often. 00:07:44.53\00:07:46.39 Unfortunately, this was an outbreak 00:07:46.43\00:07:48.36 that you would only think about in terms of Hollywood, 00:07:48.40\00:07:50.70 the drama, the danger, etc., etc. 00:07:50.73\00:07:53.64 It was a bit unreal through the whole crisis actually. 00:07:53.67\00:07:58.77 It was difficult to watch others 00:07:58.81\00:08:04.18 struggle with the fear of diseases, 00:08:04.21\00:08:05.91 you know, I like to think that I understand 00:08:05.95\00:08:07.88 that the science behind the disease, 00:08:07.92\00:08:09.45 that the risk of contact etc. but for most Africans, 00:08:09.48\00:08:13.29 they don't really understand germs and viruses 00:08:13.32\00:08:15.32 and what that means to them in terms of the risk. 00:08:15.36\00:08:17.39 So you have this significant threat without actually being-- 00:08:17.43\00:08:21.43 something you could focus the blame or the anger on. 00:08:21.46\00:08:24.37 You just have this thing that's happening to you, 00:08:24.40\00:08:26.00 in your family, in your community. 00:08:26.03\00:08:27.90 And it was so wide spread 00:08:27.94\00:08:29.67 so far reaching that not many individuals 00:08:29.70\00:08:31.94 escaped some grief. 00:08:31.97\00:08:34.78 Most of our workers had family or friends 00:08:34.81\00:08:36.51 that died of the disease. 00:08:36.54\00:08:37.88 The medical community was decimated, 00:08:37.91\00:08:39.98 doctors, nurses, aids, cleaners 00:08:40.02\00:08:43.05 so many people died due to exposures. 00:08:43.08\00:08:45.79 Even security officers of the hospitals, 00:08:45.82\00:08:47.72 would often lend a hand to help patients in and out, 00:08:47.76\00:08:50.03 take care of them, 00:08:50.06\00:08:51.66 where all sort of significantly had risk of that, 00:08:51.69\00:08:53.29 without really understanding how there were getting it. 00:08:53.33\00:08:55.46 And so it was this huge struggle with education, 00:08:55.50\00:08:57.90 distribution of resources to help, 00:08:57.93\00:08:59.63 even just a pair of gloves can make a world of difference 00:08:59.67\00:09:01.74 in terms of your exposure risk. 00:09:01.77\00:09:03.81 But those were not routinely distributed 00:09:03.84\00:09:06.27 to hospitals and clinics and so they were facing 00:09:06.31\00:09:08.58 this out break without any training, 00:09:08.61\00:09:09.94 without any of those basic resources 00:09:09.98\00:09:11.91 that we take for granted here in US. 00:09:11.95\00:09:14.48 And so it was just massive struggle to try to get people 00:09:14.52\00:09:17.32 to continue in their life saving capacities 00:09:17.35\00:09:20.22 and yet not put their lives at such high risk 00:09:20.26\00:09:23.26 as well as their family lives 00:09:23.29\00:09:24.63 because if one person become sick 00:09:24.66\00:09:25.99 the entire family is likely to be exposed. 00:09:26.03\00:09:30.53 It wiped out whole villages, whole families, you know. 00:09:30.57\00:09:34.27 One family member might survive 00:09:34.30\00:09:36.97 but then there are neighbors, there are carpenters, 00:09:37.01\00:09:39.84 their extended family were all be at risk 00:09:39.87\00:09:41.54 of getting the disease. 00:09:41.58\00:09:43.28 There is a lot of denial, 00:09:43.31\00:09:44.81 the first three to five months of the outbreak 00:09:44.85\00:09:47.55 that people didn't want to believe Ebola really exist 00:09:47.58\00:09:49.82 and it was a conspiracy of from the government 00:09:49.85\00:09:51.52 to get money from the West. 00:09:51.55\00:09:52.89 It was a curse, it was-- people stealing bodies 00:09:52.92\00:09:56.09 for spiritual rituals in face of politics 00:09:56.12\00:09:59.76 and soon to be elections. 00:09:59.79\00:10:03.67 That was difficult because people didn't want to believe 00:10:03.70\00:10:05.67 that they could get this disease 00:10:05.70\00:10:07.04 by helping someone else 00:10:07.07\00:10:08.64 and so they would go and reach to the family members 00:10:08.67\00:10:11.04 take care of them, 00:10:11.07\00:10:12.41 without any protective equipment 00:10:12.44\00:10:13.78 or soap or chlorine to wash their hands with 00:10:13.81\00:10:15.71 and so the disease spread further 00:10:15.74\00:10:17.48 and further and further. 00:10:17.51\00:10:19.61 For me, I felt like I can understand the risk 00:10:19.65\00:10:21.62 and so I can take calculated risks 00:10:21.65\00:10:25.49 or take measures to protect myself. 00:10:25.52\00:10:27.92 But everybody else didn't really have that assurance, 00:10:27.96\00:10:30.83 and so for them it was hard 00:10:30.86\00:10:32.36 to watch them go through that fear 00:10:32.39\00:10:33.73 and answer that fear 00:10:33.76\00:10:35.10 and really put their lives on the line. 00:10:35.13\00:10:36.83 Their bravery in the phase of all this 00:10:36.87\00:10:38.40 was pretty profound. 00:10:38.43\00:10:39.77 Yeah, now during this time, 00:10:39.80\00:10:42.40 what were your working hours like? 00:10:42.44\00:10:45.97 They escalated pretty rapidly. 00:10:46.01\00:10:49.31 We struggled with the idea of whether we would close 00:10:49.34\00:10:51.45 or stay open in the phase of the crisis, 00:10:51.48\00:10:54.82 be it some more people who are willing to risk, 00:10:54.85\00:10:56.58 we decided to stay open 00:10:56.62\00:10:57.95 but be a non Ebola treatment center 00:10:57.99\00:11:00.36 and that mean we treat malaria and strokes 00:11:00.39\00:11:02.69 and traumas and other things 00:11:02.72\00:11:05.39 that might come up on a day-to-day basis, 00:11:05.43\00:11:08.63 most of the other hospitals in the country closed 00:11:08.66\00:11:11.57 and that meant that we were 00:11:11.60\00:11:13.00 the one of the that few facilities 00:11:13.03\00:11:14.37 that were actually had normal capacity, capabilities. 00:11:14.40\00:11:17.37 So operating room, 00:11:17.41\00:11:19.07 the laboratory and things like that. 00:11:19.11\00:11:20.44 So the only reason I didn't work 24 hours a day 00:11:20.48\00:11:23.24 is that the President enacted in 9 p.m. curfew, 00:11:23.28\00:11:25.31 which people couldn't get transport to the hospital. 00:11:25.35\00:11:27.35 They'd have to wait till next morning. 00:11:27.38\00:11:28.85 So generally until about 8:30, 9 o' clock 00:11:28.88\00:11:31.79 we would be treating patients as fast as we could 00:11:31.82\00:11:34.12 and then at 9 'o' clock things would slow down 00:11:34.16\00:11:35.86 then the only thing we have to worry about overnight 00:11:35.89\00:11:37.26 was it'll be emergencies 00:11:37.29\00:11:38.76 that maybe we'd already admitted 00:11:38.79\00:11:40.13 and still had to deal with. 00:11:40.16\00:11:41.80 And that was exhausting very quickly 00:11:41.83\00:11:44.20 but the curfew alone saved us from sheer burnout. 00:11:44.23\00:11:49.67 Now talking about burnout beforehand you were telling me, 00:11:49.70\00:11:52.14 how many days you work straight without a break. 00:11:52.17\00:11:54.91 Well, I was very lucky in the sense 00:11:54.94\00:11:57.05 that Loma Lindan HI 00:11:57.08\00:11:58.71 contacted some of the previous more experienced doctors 00:11:58.75\00:12:02.48 to come and help and we had three volunteers 00:12:02.52\00:12:04.75 that had previously worked in Africa, 00:12:04.79\00:12:06.15 James Appel, Greg Saunders and Greg Shank, 00:12:06.19\00:12:09.12 and they all provided significant relief for me. 00:12:09.16\00:12:12.43 We were generally so busy when they were there 00:12:12.46\00:12:14.10 that took both of us working as fast as we could 00:12:14.13\00:12:15.90 to manage the issues. 00:12:15.93\00:12:18.43 And then after that 00:12:18.47\00:12:19.80 we actually had a volunteer intern 00:12:19.83\00:12:22.14 come over for three months. 00:12:22.17\00:12:23.51 And her work was profoundly appreciated, 00:12:23.54\00:12:25.44 she took our lot of infectious control, contact with NGOs, 00:12:25.47\00:12:28.74 that were coming in to help and things like that. 00:12:28.78\00:12:30.48 But as she didn't had full training yet, 00:12:30.51\00:12:34.12 she'd basically did out patient in clinic work 00:12:34.15\00:12:36.25 and I took care of the in patients, 00:12:36.28\00:12:37.62 which meant that I was on for 70, 80 days work in a row. 00:12:37.65\00:12:40.82 Unbelievable. 00:12:40.86\00:12:42.19 Yeah, So how does a doctor 00:12:42.22\00:12:45.13 trained at Loma Linda end up working there, 00:12:45.16\00:12:47.96 why not just set up practice here in United States? 00:12:48.00\00:12:51.17 Well, there are certain disadvantages working there 00:12:51.20\00:12:53.20 in the United States. 00:12:53.23\00:12:54.57 Malpractice being one of them. 00:12:54.60\00:12:55.94 Medicare, documentation, 00:12:55.97\00:12:58.71 there is a lot of work without necessarily 00:12:58.74\00:13:02.74 an equal distribution of payment for doctors. 00:13:02.78\00:13:05.68 which is bit of the struggle 00:13:05.71\00:13:07.05 because you get paid a healthy salary, 00:13:07.08\00:13:08.42 which is not necessarily 00:13:08.45\00:13:09.78 reflective of the hours you work. 00:13:09.82\00:13:11.29 But why Mission service? 00:13:11.32\00:13:13.19 Because I felt like that was a way that I could work 00:13:13.22\00:13:15.89 the same amount of hours and get paid less. 00:13:15.92\00:13:18.69 But I wanted my work to mean something directly 00:13:21.40\00:13:24.73 not that helping people in this country 00:13:24.77\00:13:26.47 is less rewarding than it is other places, 00:13:26.50\00:13:28.54 but these are low resource areas, 00:13:28.57\00:13:30.61 especially, in terms of surgical care 00:13:30.64\00:13:32.07 and I'm willing to provide that. 00:13:32.11\00:13:34.01 So why wouldn't I go to those kind of scenarios. 00:13:34.04\00:13:36.51 And the rewards are definitely outweigh 00:13:36.54\00:13:39.01 the disadvantages in my mind. 00:13:39.05\00:13:40.72 Fantastic, well, Gillian, thank you so much 00:13:40.75\00:13:43.18 for what you have done 00:13:43.22\00:13:44.55 for the people of Africa for Mission services, 00:13:44.59\00:13:46.65 just quickly for anyone 00:13:46.69\00:13:48.02 considering being a missionary doctor, 00:13:48.06\00:13:49.72 recommend or not? 00:13:49.76\00:13:51.16 Absolutely, but I think the key 00:13:51.19\00:13:53.36 for any job that you pick in life 00:13:53.40\00:13:55.26 is that you're sure that's what you want. 00:13:55.30\00:13:57.53 All right, one doctor gave me advise, 00:13:57.57\00:13:59.27 if you can imagine yourself happy doing anything else, 00:13:59.30\00:14:01.10 do that other thing. 00:14:01.14\00:14:03.07 And I would say that it's true for this too, 00:14:03.10\00:14:04.44 when you certain you are, where you supposed to be 00:14:04.47\00:14:07.01 then it makes handling all the challenges doable. 00:14:07.04\00:14:10.48 When you are sure that God called you to be 00:14:10.51\00:14:11.98 a certain type of person or certain of professional, 00:14:12.01\00:14:15.18 certain type of missionary, 00:14:15.22\00:14:16.85 then you can handle what comes. 00:14:16.89\00:14:19.45 So I think it's just a matter of an individual making 00:14:19.49\00:14:22.72 that choice yourself, 00:14:22.76\00:14:24.26 certainly made my life survivable, 00:14:24.29\00:14:26.80 is that I knew, beyond a shadow of a doubt 00:14:26.83\00:14:29.16 that God wanted me in Liberia for whatever reason. 00:14:29.20\00:14:32.53 He lead, clearly lead me in that direction 00:14:32.57\00:14:34.90 and so that meant obviously, 00:14:34.94\00:14:36.87 I was supposed to be there during Ebola, 00:14:36.91\00:14:39.24 for a while now afterwards. 00:14:39.27\00:14:40.61 So we'll see what he has next. 00:14:40.64\00:14:42.44 Fantastic. 00:14:42.48\00:14:43.81 Thank you so much for sharing with us. 00:14:43.85\00:14:45.18 Sure. 00:14:45.21\00:14:46.55 We'll be right back straight after this break. 00:14:46.58\00:14:47.92