Welcome back to London. 00:00:05.36\00:00:06.93 Next up, we travel to Albania, 00:00:06.96\00:00:09.14 where Rick Kajiura is talking with Pastor Julian Kastrati. 00:00:09.17\00:00:14.50 Thank you, Gary. 00:00:14.53\00:00:16.19 We're here in Tirana, Albania 00:00:16.22\00:00:18.95 and I'm here with Pastor Julian Kastrati 00:00:18.98\00:00:21.69 who's the secretary of the Union. 00:00:21.72\00:00:23.16 Last night we had the opportunity 00:00:23.19\00:00:24.79 to visit with a small group, 00:00:24.82\00:00:26.72 and they're some very interesting people. 00:00:26.75\00:00:28.34 Could you tell me about some of the people 00:00:28.37\00:00:29.89 who were in that small group? 00:00:29.92\00:00:31.93 Here we have a very interesting group of people 00:00:31.96\00:00:34.05 because it's backed-- 00:00:34.08\00:00:36.86 we probably didn't have the full group last night 00:00:36.89\00:00:38.82 because it's still the holiday season. 00:00:38.85\00:00:40.82 But part of that group 00:00:40.85\00:00:42.00 is a member of the Albanian parliament. 00:00:42.03\00:00:44.35 We have national celebrities in that group. 00:00:44.38\00:00:47.92 And even children that come regularly, 00:00:47.95\00:00:51.93 so we have a nice interesting mix. 00:00:51.96\00:00:53.71 We have students, we have professionals, 00:00:53.74\00:00:57.13 so it's kind of a very interesting 00:00:57.16\00:00:58.71 and quite influential group. 00:00:58.74\00:01:00.46 So we had a chance to meet two other people 00:01:00.49\00:01:02.89 and one of them was a woman named Julie or Ulie. 00:01:02.92\00:01:06.20 Yes. 00:01:06.23\00:01:07.26 Can you tell us a bit about her background 00:01:07.29\00:01:08.64 because she is one of those national celebrities 00:01:08.67\00:01:10.35 you talked about. 00:01:10.38\00:01:11.66 That's right, Ulie, her name is Ulinda, 00:01:11.69\00:01:14.60 but we call her Ulie. 00:01:14.63\00:01:17.19 She became famous because she took part 00:01:17.22\00:01:19.91 in the Big Brother reality show, 00:01:19.94\00:01:22.66 in the very first one that happened, 00:01:22.69\00:01:25.34 that was broadcast in Albania, I think 6, 7 years ago. 00:01:25.37\00:01:30.25 It's very interesting that from this kind of worldly event 00:01:30.28\00:01:35.93 that we as Adventists don't really attend, 00:01:35.96\00:01:40.40 that was the point of her conversion 00:01:40.43\00:01:42.13 because what was going to be her future best friend, 00:01:42.16\00:01:46.37 very close friend, 00:01:46.40\00:01:47.83 he was the brother of two of our church members. 00:01:47.86\00:01:50.70 At that time he wasn't baptized. 00:01:50.73\00:01:52.68 He actually won the Big Brother reality show, 00:01:52.71\00:01:54.93 she was one of the finalists. 00:01:54.96\00:01:56.45 But he wore this T-shirt, 00:01:56.48\00:01:59.03 I heart Jesus and that impression stayed with her. 00:01:59.06\00:02:04.07 And she enquired about why these people 00:02:04.10\00:02:07.66 are so public in their faith in God. 00:02:07.69\00:02:11.10 I must go to their church. 00:02:11.13\00:02:13.11 So as she got closer through friendship, 00:02:13.14\00:02:16.46 through the circle, 00:02:16.49\00:02:18.16 influences of the family and the two sisters, 00:02:18.19\00:02:21.67 she came to church. 00:02:21.70\00:02:22.81 That's when I met her. 00:02:22.84\00:02:24.71 She also took part in a wedding 00:02:24.74\00:02:27.97 that I performed for our... 00:02:28.00\00:02:33.47 two members that got married, 00:02:33.50\00:02:37.95 a Member of Parliament and another national celebrity. 00:02:37.98\00:02:42.08 And she just kept coming to church, 00:02:42.11\00:02:44.87 after that and she wanted to know more and more about God 00:02:44.90\00:02:48.27 and then we naturally started studies 00:02:48.30\00:02:51.97 but the best idea that ever came 00:02:52.00\00:02:54.10 was having a small group at her home. 00:02:54.13\00:02:56.71 As you saw, she is very lively in her personality 00:02:56.74\00:02:59.74 but she's very hospitable, 00:02:59.77\00:03:01.64 very nice and one of the most active members 00:03:01.67\00:03:04.21 of the church in Albania, as we speak. 00:03:04.24\00:03:06.42 And that small group that has been taking place 00:03:06.45\00:03:10.08 for the past three and a half years, 00:03:10.11\00:03:12.18 almost four years has produced so many baptisms, 00:03:12.21\00:03:15.27 has led so many people to Christ and we meet, 00:03:15.30\00:03:18.47 whether the pastor is there or not, 00:03:18.50\00:03:20.04 and I am there most of the time. 00:03:20.07\00:03:22.08 It has been considered 00:03:22.11\00:03:23.22 the most successful small groups in Albania, 00:03:23.25\00:03:25.34 in the history of the church in Albania. 00:03:25.37\00:03:28.10 And it just takes place every Wednesday-- 00:03:28.13\00:03:31.37 every Wednesday at 7o'clock we are there. 00:03:31.40\00:03:33.74 And as you saw, we, everybody brings some food, 00:03:33.77\00:03:36.72 we fellowship together, we do some Bible study, 00:03:36.75\00:03:40.51 we pray for each other. 00:03:40.54\00:03:42.19 Very simple format but so much a blessing from it, 00:03:42.22\00:03:47.48 so much positive energy. 00:03:47.51\00:03:48.85 And you know they talked a little bit about 00:03:48.88\00:03:50.39 how much it feels like being part of a family 00:03:50.42\00:03:52.90 when they're meeting as a small group. 00:03:52.93\00:03:55.40 Go ahead, yeah. 00:03:55.43\00:03:56.46 Now we have been through some very serious circumstances 00:03:56.49\00:04:00.01 with some of the members having you know, 00:04:00.04\00:04:02.65 serious sicknesses, 00:04:02.68\00:04:05.66 health issues, so on and so forth, 00:04:05.69\00:04:08.16 and we all have the confidence to contact each other, 00:04:08.19\00:04:12.06 even through Whatsapp, Messenger, messages, 00:04:12.09\00:04:16.49 praying all the time, 00:04:16.52\00:04:17.65 sometimes fasting for each other 00:04:17.68\00:04:19.59 and that has brought this strong family sense, 00:04:19.62\00:04:23.50 you know, being one strong spiritual family 00:04:23.53\00:04:26.24 in that small group setting. 00:04:26.27\00:04:27.83 Now you mentioned Whatsapp, and last night, 00:04:27.86\00:04:31.34 Ulinda talked about posting on Facebook 00:04:31.37\00:04:35.24 and saying happy Sabbath and people would ask questions. 00:04:35.27\00:04:37.61 We also talked with another person last night, 00:04:37.64\00:04:39.66 Andy, and he found out, from what I understand, 00:04:39.69\00:04:41.99 about the church a little bit online. 00:04:42.02\00:04:43.55 Could you share a bit of his story? 00:04:43.58\00:04:45.79 Very interesting and fascinating story, again, 00:04:45.82\00:04:48.16 and it's not the first time. 00:04:48.19\00:04:49.30 I'm also the web pastor for Albania, 00:04:49.33\00:04:51.72 I'm in charge of Internet ministries. 00:04:51.75\00:04:54.10 And it's been amazing 00:04:54.13\00:04:56.03 how God has brought people to our church, 00:04:56.06\00:04:58.79 not just in Tirana, 00:04:58.82\00:04:59.86 I think other churches as well in Albania 00:04:59.89\00:05:01.79 but mostly in Tirana through the internet. 00:05:01.82\00:05:05.05 Through our Facebook presence, 00:05:05.08\00:05:06.89 through our web presence and in particular, 00:05:06.92\00:05:11.96 as we speak, he's the guy I baptized 00:05:11.99\00:05:14.85 just one month ago, one month and a half ago, 00:05:14.88\00:05:18.85 and he is one of the most active members. 00:05:18.88\00:05:22.10 He basically, online found out about 00:05:22.13\00:05:26.25 which church is closest to the Bible so you know, 00:05:26.28\00:05:29.44 he had been attending before, you know, 00:05:29.47\00:05:32.09 and finding out about other church denominations. 00:05:32.12\00:05:35.60 But as I say in a joking way, 00:05:35.63\00:05:37.57 he got stuck with the Adventists 00:05:37.60\00:05:39.65 and he's glued, I would rather say and-- 00:05:39.68\00:05:43.43 So he came to me, he contacted me online. 00:05:43.46\00:05:46.57 In the beginning, I thought he probably 00:05:46.60\00:05:47.63 wasn't so serious but he was very serious 00:05:47.66\00:05:50.30 and he just came to church on that Sabbath 00:05:50.33\00:05:51.95 he said I'm convinced, on the Sabbath, 00:05:51.98\00:05:56.24 I'm convinced on the state of the dead, 00:05:56.27\00:05:57.89 all our distinctive doctrines and I said, 00:05:57.92\00:06:01.27 well, wow, there's not much for me to do 00:06:01.30\00:06:03.86 but I'm gonna give you a job, 00:06:03.89\00:06:05.17 you know, in the sense that I want you 00:06:05.20\00:06:07.16 to be an active lay member for Jesus. 00:06:07.19\00:06:09.59 He's already now one of our Sabbath school superintendents, 00:06:09.62\00:06:12.11 and he's very active with the youth group 00:06:12.14\00:06:14.86 and he has already started the forum online, 00:06:14.89\00:06:17.46 questions and answers to God and from God 00:06:17.49\00:06:21.01 and its already extremely successful. 00:06:21.04\00:06:24.52 That's wonderful. 00:06:24.55\00:06:25.62 I mean, just sitting there with the group last night, 00:06:25.65\00:06:28.03 watching them interact, 00:06:28.06\00:06:29.21 talking with some of them, hearing their stories. 00:06:29.24\00:06:31.43 It's so exciting to see 00:06:31.46\00:06:32.49 what's happening here in Albania. 00:06:32.52\00:06:34.60 You know, this is a country 00:06:34.63\00:06:35.94 that is still very much a challenge. 00:06:35.97\00:06:37.70 It's a relatively young church, 00:06:37.73\00:06:41.36 speaking in terms of the whole history 00:06:41.39\00:06:43.33 of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. 00:06:43.36\00:06:45.26 So, people out there, if you are watching this, 00:06:45.29\00:06:48.31 please remember to pray for Albania. 00:06:48.34\00:06:51.04 There are many challenges here 00:06:51.07\00:06:52.32 but they're exciting things going on. 00:06:52.35\00:06:54.33 The people here are reaching out 00:06:54.36\00:06:55.58 in many different ways, 00:06:55.61\00:06:56.82 through the internet, through personal contact. 00:06:56.85\00:06:59.32 They want to build a new church here 00:06:59.35\00:07:01.08 in the central part of Tirana. 00:07:01.11\00:07:04.14 Please pray for them. 00:07:04.17\00:07:06.01 Thank you very much and now back to you, Gary. 00:07:06.04\00:07:10.35 I hope you enjoyed the first half 00:07:10.38\00:07:12.09 of Lowell and Neria Jenks story. 00:07:12.12\00:07:14.34 Now comes the best part. 00:07:14.37\00:07:16.30 We were originally brought in here 00:07:18.00\00:07:19.62 to initiate a vocational program. 00:07:19.65\00:07:23.08 The name of this school 00:07:23.11\00:07:24.75 is Eyira Adventist Vocational Academy. 00:07:24.78\00:07:27.87 And other than teaching agriculture to the students, 00:07:27.90\00:07:32.33 nothing was being done. 00:07:32.36\00:07:33.70 And I don't know how many years 00:07:33.73\00:07:35.03 it had been since a more formal type 00:07:35.06\00:07:37.14 of a vocational program was going on, 00:07:37.17\00:07:40.45 but they wanted to come in 00:07:40.48\00:07:42.03 and make the part of the vocation 00:07:42.06\00:07:45.77 in the school's name more of a reality. 00:07:45.80\00:07:48.49 "The Lord is my Shepherd, I shall not want. 00:08:00.52\00:08:03.47 He makes me to lie down in the green pastures, 00:08:05.06\00:08:08.49 He leads me beside the still water." 00:08:08.52\00:08:11.03 There are different things, 00:08:11.06\00:08:14.19 I'm learning how to work in an Adventist school. 00:08:14.22\00:08:17.85 And how to share the gospel of Jesus with one another. 00:08:17.88\00:08:21.28 I study the Bible mostly. 00:08:21.31\00:08:24.33 I've get to know how to study 00:08:24.36\00:08:26.35 and I am acquainted to study the Word of God. 00:08:26.38\00:08:30.06 This year, this school 00:08:30.09\00:08:32.23 where we're sitting together with you, 00:08:32.26\00:08:34.32 as happen to be number three in the world of South Sudan. 00:08:34.35\00:08:37.96 We praise God for that. 00:08:37.99\00:08:39.43 It's good to see who's here. 00:08:39.46\00:08:41.46 You see, we don't have much but, 00:08:41.49\00:08:43.00 God is blessing the young people. 00:08:43.03\00:08:45.02 You know, if I had come in here 20 or 30 years ago, 00:08:59.18\00:09:02.41 I would not sense the physical challenges 00:09:02.44\00:09:05.59 as much as I do now. 00:09:05.62\00:09:07.29 You know, I was within a month being 60 00:09:07.32\00:09:08.98 when we came in here 00:09:09.01\00:09:10.08 and now I'm knocking on 65's door. 00:09:10.11\00:09:13.15 A big pin went through, 00:09:19.06\00:09:20.66 fell out of a control arm down there. 00:09:20.69\00:09:22.84 We should have checked it the other day, 00:09:26.81\00:09:28.14 I guess, but we didn't. 00:09:28.17\00:09:30.79 Fortunately we don't do it all the time 00:09:30.82\00:09:33.24 but it isn't the first time I've done something like this. 00:09:33.27\00:09:36.06 There's no question in my mind 00:09:48.65\00:09:50.04 that the Lord led us to come here. 00:09:50.07\00:09:52.61 I have no regrets because I knew 00:09:57.54\00:10:01.79 this is where God wanted us to be. 00:10:01.82\00:10:04.41 And it was not one fleece I put out 00:10:04.44\00:10:09.25 but two, three, four, 00:10:09.28\00:10:11.29 and every time it came out positive 00:10:11.32\00:10:14.04 and so I knew this was where God wanted us to be 00:10:14.07\00:10:17.17 and I have no regrets of coming here. 00:10:17.20\00:10:21.10 Well, thank you so much for joining us today 00:10:42.87\00:10:44.60 on Global Mission Snapshots. 00:10:44.63\00:10:46.62 I hope you've been inspired and challenged 00:10:46.65\00:10:49.15 about what you've seen and heard. 00:10:49.18\00:10:50.97 From big cities such as London to smaller, 00:10:51.00\00:10:54.01 rural areas such as in South Sudan, 00:10:54.04\00:10:57.01 people are touching other people's lives 00:10:57.04\00:10:59.40 with the light of God's love. 00:10:59.43\00:11:01.23 And thank you so much for your continuing prayers, 00:11:01.26\00:11:04.01 and financial support, 00:11:04.04\00:11:05.47 and personal involvement in Mission, 00:11:05.50\00:11:08.03 it is making a difference. 00:11:08.06\00:11:09.86 Before I go, I'd like to send you a small free, offer, 00:11:09.89\00:11:13.05 it's a book in titled "True Believer," 00:11:13.08\00:11:15.66 it's an exciting story coming from the former Soviet Union 00:11:15.69\00:11:19.56 written by Adventist Mission's Gina Wahlen. 00:11:19.59\00:11:22.10 I know that you'll enjoy this small book. 00:11:22.13\00:11:25.68 For Adventist Mission, I'm Gary Krause 00:11:25.71\00:11:27.39 and I hope that you can join me next time 00:11:27.42\00:11:29.42 here on Global Mission Snapshots. 00:11:29.45\00:11:31.84