Global Mission Snapshots

Challenges in East Asia / Challenges in South Asia

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

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Participants: Gary Krause (Host), Clifmond Shameerudeen, Greg Whisett

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00:01 Young missionaries from around the world
00:02 working in New York City,
00:04 flying in a mission plane in Papua New Guinea
00:07 and two of the newest Global Mission Center directors,
00:11 coming up next on Global Mission Snapshots.
00:25 Just before He went up to heaven,
00:28 Jesus gave us a command. He gave us a mission.
00:34 Jesus said, go, go unto all the world,
00:38 telling them of His love.
00:41 This is our mission. This is our "Global Mission."
00:51 Hi, I'm Gary Krause
00:52 and welcome to Global Mission Snapshots
00:54 where we show you the people
00:56 and places of Adventist mission today.
00:59 When Global Mission was established
01:00 more than 20 years ago,
01:02 Adventist church leaders recognize
01:04 that we've struggled to reach certain people groups
01:08 and certain regions of the world.
01:10 These included the Indian sub-continent and Asia.
01:14 In recent years the church has grown
01:16 tremendously in these regions
01:17 but we still struggle to present the gospel
01:20 in a meaningful way
01:22 to people from completely different worldviews.
01:26 Today we'll be talking with two people
01:27 who are more than familiar
01:29 with that most difficult challenge.
01:32 We'll be talking with Greg Whisett,
01:33 the director of the Global Mission Center
01:35 for East Asian Religions
01:37 and with Clifmond Shameerudeen,
01:39 from the center for Self Asian Religions.
01:42 And we'll also visit Papua New Guinea
01:45 to see your mission offerings at work
01:47 in the form of a mission plane.
01:49 But first, let's visit New York City
01:52 and meet some young people from around the world
01:54 who spent one year in mission
01:57 as part of the Seventh-day Adventist churches
02:00 NY13 initiative.
02:11 Some people refer to it as the Big Apple,
02:15 others call it the city that never sleeps.
02:19 Whatever you know it as
02:20 New York City is one of the most
02:21 well know destinations on earth.
02:25 New York City is known for its cuisine,
02:27 shopping and busy atmosphere.
02:30 But beyond the stores, shows and restaurants
02:33 there are millions of people who call this home.
02:36 Finding ways to connect with these people
02:38 is a growing challenge.
02:40 The Seventh-day Adventist church has made a commitment
02:42 to reach the urban areas of the world.
02:45 They have started an effort called Mission to the Cities.
02:49 More than half of our world's population lives in cities.
02:53 These cities often house people with secular
02:55 and post-modern lifestyles.
02:58 This year we've focused our efforts on reaching this
03:01 vast city of New York.
03:03 Youth play a big role
03:05 in reaching the cities through various methods.
03:07 Let's see why New York is so important
03:10 to the Mission to the Cities initiative.
03:16 New York City is the center of news,
03:19 producing news for the whole world.
03:21 It's the center of culture, its--
03:24 I mean, you have like over 20 airports
03:28 in the city, metro area.
03:31 You have tremendous, you know, network of subways,
03:35 bridges, you know, tunnels.
03:37 All those representatives have something from
03:40 all over the world in that community.
03:43 So it is a challenge, it is an opportunity
03:47 and also be like a sample, a mother that--
03:50 and like the song you know, we used to say,
03:52 if you make it there you can make anywhere.
03:54 I don't there's just one method
03:56 where you have to be innovative, creative
03:58 and be relevant to different kinds of people
04:00 we are trying to reach.
04:04 New York City has like 800 languages,
04:07 center of finance, center of the arts, everything else.
04:11 So New York City is a model
04:13 and when Ellen White said it should be a model,
04:14 the whole world is now looking at New York
04:16 for sending evangelists to come in and work there.
04:18 Youth are coming from around the world
04:20 to work there for the next year.
04:21 So there's gonna be a lot of focus on a study
04:24 that is such a-- the U.N., United Nations,
04:26 I mean, all the cultures are there.
04:28 So it's kind of a unique city in that way.
04:31 Big cities, and no matter where you go
04:34 have one common denominator and that is a lot of people.
04:37 And even in cities that maybe less developed
04:42 than some major cities in the world,
04:44 you have a very interesting infrastructure within the city.
04:48 And so it's important that we try to reach people
04:51 in the different sections of those cities
04:54 and to understand that now,
04:57 as of about three years ago
04:58 or so more people live in big cities
05:01 than live in the rural areas.
05:04 So this is an even greater reason
05:07 for us to try and reach people in the big cities.
05:14 Since we have more people today living in the cities
05:17 then we need to reach them to finish the work.
05:21 We need to find out ways to get in contact
05:23 and develop relationships with different peoples in the cities.
05:27 And I really think the youth has a special task,
05:31 special part to be involved in this scenario.
05:38 This year, 14 youths from all around the world
05:41 came to New York
05:42 to train in community service and evangelism.
05:46 A representative from each region of the world
05:48 came here to take part in this experience.
05:50 This program is known as "One Year in Mission."
05:55 This team of young adults spent six months
05:57 learning about ministry and serving their community.
06:00 During this experience they went through
06:02 both struggles and spiritual growth.
06:05 Their patience was tested
06:06 as they dealt with cultural differences
06:08 and many other challenges.
06:10 Their faith and dedication to God's work
06:13 motivated them to do the best job they could.
06:16 The second part of the "One Year in Mission" plan
06:19 is to go back to their home region
06:20 and replicate the lessons learned in New York.
06:23 They will be used to further God's work
06:25 in the major cities of their home countries.
06:29 Please pray for these youths as they continue to follow
06:32 Christ example of reaching people all around the world.
06:44 Christ ministry is so important
06:46 because He went to where the people were.
06:49 So I think as we think about these cities
06:52 we need to have this compassion for people.
06:54 We need to be in contact with Christ everyday
06:57 through Bible study and through prayer
06:59 and understanding that our outreach to people
07:02 is to follow His method.
07:03 We need to be crying with Jesus for the people of the city
07:07 and more than crying, we need to do something.
07:14 These writings of Ellen White
07:16 or the Spirit of Prophecy as we call them
07:18 which I believe are inspired writings from God
07:22 has much to say about working in the cities
07:26 and not just in preaching the gospel
07:28 but in living the gospel.
07:31 Helping people to go door to door,
07:34 opening up centers of influence,
07:36 that could be churches, there could be places
07:38 where people can come together
07:40 and study the scriptures, reading rooms.
07:42 They could be health centers
07:44 where people are given health lectures
07:47 where there's a clinic there
07:49 or whether maybe there are vegetarian restaurant
07:52 or something to help people to be attracted
07:55 to that which is truth.
07:57 Where to use every method possible
08:00 including integrated media outreach today
08:04 and all those kinds of things.
08:05 But the most important thing
08:07 is to have individuals who live in the cities,
08:12 Christians, Seventh-day Adventists
08:14 to be able to connect with other people.
08:16 You can't do everything
08:17 from a remote control arrangement.
08:19 It all comes down to that relationship.
08:22 Without Christ Spirit living within us
08:24 through the Holy Spirit and our ministering to people,
08:28 anything we do is absolutely worthless
08:31 but through God's power
08:33 we can touch the hearts of people.
08:40 The world church is decided as a group
08:42 that we need to do this together.
08:44 New York City is supposed to be a model.
08:45 You know, Ellen White said, and so we are doing that first
08:48 but then 650 cities eventually, each division,
08:51 each conference, each union is prayerfully choosing a city
08:54 they want to pull their resources towards in reach.
08:57 So using the comprehensive methods,
08:59 using all kinds of things not just evangelistic meetings
09:02 but the world is gonna go after all of these cities
09:05 in the next few years together, praying, working together.
09:10 The NY13 project has reached thousands of people
09:14 but we are just scratching the surface
09:16 of the earth's urban population.
09:18 As we continue our efforts in New York,
09:20 let's pray for the millions of people around the world
09:23 who have never heard God's message.
09:26 Thank you, for your support of mission to the cities
09:29 and mission around the world.
09:37 When Global Mission was established in 1990,
09:40 the mandate given it was very clear.
09:43 Start new congregations,
09:45 not only in new geographical areas
09:47 but also in new people groups.
09:49 So one of the fundamental initiatives of Global Mission
09:53 are the Global Mission centers
09:55 which are particularly designed to help us build better bridges
09:59 with other world religions.
10:00 And my guest today is Pastor Gregory Whitsett,
10:03 who is the director of the Center
10:05 for East Asian Religions.
10:07 Greg, thanks for coming. Thank you.
10:09 Thanks for coming all the way from Bangkok,
10:10 Thailand to join us.
10:13 I know we got some meetings coming up next week.
10:15 Greg, can you summarize the activities
10:19 that you are involved in the center.
10:21 Now in asking that I'm also aware of the fact
10:23 that you have only recently started
10:26 but what are the some of the things
10:27 that you are focusing on?
10:29 Well, bar none.
10:32 The most, the biggest objective that I have
10:36 is to actually find people
10:39 who are specializing in this kind of work
10:40 and all the fields through out Asia
10:43 but even throughout the world.
10:44 There are Asians, there are Buddhists
10:48 around the world that as per as we're global community.
10:51 So finding people who actually have an interest
10:55 to lookout for the needs of those
10:57 outside of their own cultural sphere is important.
11:00 There maybe a neighbor next door,
11:01 and maybe somebody they work with that may be,
11:03 they are immersed in that other culture
11:05 and they just need to learn how to be a part of that community.
11:08 So that's the major objective.
11:11 So to build up a network of like minded people with this--
11:14 Yes, exactly. Good.
11:15 Exactly. Yeah.
11:18 And you also, I mean, we used to call them study centers
11:21 as there's amount of research as well.
11:23 Yeah, certainly.
11:25 In working with these different peoples,
11:27 you know, its just like working with people
11:30 perhaps here in North America
11:32 where you have many different denominations
11:35 and different mindsets.
11:36 Some who are more secularize,
11:38 some who are very devout in their faith,
11:40 then you have some who maybe protestant
11:42 or Catholic or different religion
11:44 so, or denominations.
11:45 So Buddhism and the different
11:47 East Asian religions are the same way,
11:48 its not just one thing.
11:51 So it is always need for developing better materials,
11:55 better resources and at least
11:57 and understanding of what that value system is,
11:59 what the worldview is of these different groups
12:01 so that we can bring the gospel to them.
12:03 It's something that is meaningful,
12:06 you know, if we were to plant a mosque
12:08 or a Buddhist temple in the middle of America
12:12 how would the farming community
12:14 and different ones feel about that coming in there.
12:16 Would they feel, oh, wow, this is wonderful.
12:18 We've got some cultural diversity coming into town.
12:20 No, that's not at all.
12:21 You would feel like a threat to nation,
12:24 to family, to the community.
12:27 And so as Christians,
12:29 we need to spend a lot of time mingling with people
12:31 but also understanding what are their needs
12:34 and how does Christ most appeal to them.
12:36 What aspects would they find,
12:38 not only appealing but something they need
12:41 that's filling a gap.
12:43 And part of the challenge too is that
12:46 to separate what is essential Christianity,
12:49 what is essential Adventism and what is cultural baggage.
12:51 And sometimes we confuse the two
12:54 and we think that when we--
12:55 and so when we present the gospel to people
12:58 we sometimes hangs on a little bit of our tradition
13:01 and a little bit of the way we've always done it.
13:03 But really that's not the essential part,
13:05 right? That's true.
13:07 You know, anyone who has spent,
13:09 lived cross culturally or have lived in a community
13:14 where they spend significant time
13:15 in the homes of other people
13:16 that have a different cultural background
13:17 will know that there's more than
13:19 one way to make pot roast,
13:21 you know, for a potluck, you know. Right. Right.
13:23 So some like cheese on it and some don't.
13:26 Some like, you know,
13:27 there's many different ways of doing things.
13:29 And if everything I am has to change
13:33 in order to become a Christian
13:36 and I am not talking about my value system
13:38 but I am talking about, I can no longer wear the clothing
13:41 I am wearing. I have to change my clothing.
13:44 I--you know, for example here in American,
13:47 you know, 4th of July and Thanksgiving
13:51 and the way we celebrate Christmas
13:53 and all these different type of things.
13:54 You know, people have room for adjusting
13:57 how they would celebrate those events.
13:59 But they still celebrate it. Right.
14:02 But when we go into a place
14:05 where Christianity comes into another country
14:07 that's not western, a lot of times
14:10 we see these as a threat to Christianity
14:13 because a lot of these different festivals
14:16 and things have a religious tone to them
14:18 and so we just erase them, take them out
14:20 and then we leave a kind of--
14:22 A vacuum. A vacuum, exactly.
14:24 So one of the things that's important at the center
14:27 is to help the church indigenize.
14:28 To actually say, okay, how can we would be
14:30 fully part of the local community
14:33 and enjoy the different festivals
14:35 but stay true to Christ, to stay committed to Christianity to.
14:40 And so that's an important thing
14:42 because otherwise Christianity is seen as a foreign invasion,
14:46 as colonialism, maybe but this is not us.
14:49 But Christ was Asian, you know, before He was American
14:55 and you know, we've painted Him and made Him to be American.
14:57 Asian before He was American.
14:58 I didn't know He can be.
15:00 So, but we've adopted
15:02 you know, all the paintings and different pictures
15:03 we have they reflect our culture.
15:06 His skin complexion, His--
15:08 you know, how we view scriptures
15:09 is incorporated into our world.
15:12 But if we do that in Asia
15:13 some people take offence with it looks too Asian.
15:16 But basically when we do those types of things
15:18 we're just trying to relate to Christ.
15:21 And if He we was here wouldn't He take on
15:24 and live in that community
15:26 like He did when He was in Israel.
15:28 Right. He lived among them as a Jew.
15:31 And so we need to not just
15:33 think about the incarnation of Christ then
15:35 but find ways to have incarnation Christianity.
15:38 Right. Yeah.
15:40 And that's not something that's just done overnight.
15:42 No, and it's something that one person or one center can do,
15:45 it needs to be done in partnership
15:47 in as a conversation with local Christians. Yeah.
15:51 And giving them the structure so that's an okay thing to do.
15:55 Yeah. Yeah. Greg, fascinating.
15:57 I wish we had more time
15:58 but thanks for joining us. Thank you.
16:01 Viewers at home, you can just get a window
16:04 into the sort of issues
16:06 that our Global Mission Centers are wrestling with
16:09 as they seek today to take the commission
16:11 to go into all the world in a way that is meaningful,
16:15 attractive, understandable
16:17 but without compromising the message in any ways.
16:19 So please pray for Pastor Greg
16:22 and the other center directors in their challenging work.
17:12 When the Seventh-day Adventist church's
17:14 Global Mission initiative began back in 1990,
17:18 one of the key challenges is that
17:20 church leader saw was the fact that
17:23 the Adventist church virtually made no connection
17:26 with people from other world religions.
17:28 And I am delighted to tell you about the Global Mission centers
17:34 that have been established to make us
17:37 more effective in building bridges
17:38 to our brothers and sisters of different faith.
17:41 And I am delighted to welcome our guest today,
17:43 Clifmond Shameerudeen,
17:45 who is from the Center for South Asian Religions.
17:49 Now that's a handful.
17:50 Clifmond, what are South Asian Religions referring to?
17:55 Well, it encompasses many of the religions
17:58 that are associated with Hinduism.
18:01 Hinduism being the main one and Sikh--Sikhism
18:05 and other religions that associated with that,
18:08 that are not known today to most people. Yeah.
18:12 Now, here in North America
18:14 we are seeing increasing numbers of these people
18:17 in our streets, in our communities
18:19 and that's quite a diaspora of people
18:22 from that part of the world, right? That's correct.
18:25 Now including where you are currently working which is--
18:29 Trinidad. Trinidad.
18:30 Tell us about the make up of the population there.
18:34 In Trinidad, the population is very diverse.
18:37 You have about 30% of the Afro-Caribbean people
18:41 that have the descendant directly
18:43 from the continent of Africa.
18:45 And then you have another 28% of people
18:49 who consider themselves to be Hindus
18:52 that are directly associated with India.
18:55 And then you have other mixtures
18:57 of other ethnic groups such as the Portuguese
19:00 and people from China
19:03 that has recently have been coming to Trinidad,
19:07 to the Island of Trinidad.
19:09 So you have a particular passion for finding ways
19:12 that we can be better in the way
19:15 that we connect with people
19:16 from these traditions. Certainly.
19:18 Yeah. Certainly.
19:19 Now, tell me about the center of influence
19:22 that you have recently established.
19:25 Well, when I first move to Trinidad
19:27 and the first thing I did is to observe the community
19:30 and understand the people and understand
19:33 what are the things that matter most to them
19:36 and also the challenges that they face.
19:39 And then I recognized that the center of influence
19:41 is the best way to connect with this community.
19:45 And so that's when I began a center of influence.
19:49 Now describe what the center of influence is?
19:52 Well, the center of influence is basically a center
19:56 where it connects directly to people,
19:58 connect to their lives, to things
20:00 that matters most to them.
20:02 And so when we open up the center
20:05 we advertised it as safe place, a place where you can come
20:09 and get help and you can talk to anyone
20:12 about the challenges you have and how best you can have
20:15 find solutions to those problems.
20:18 So why don't you just come in there
20:19 with your Bible in your hand and preach to them?
20:23 Well, you know that, that's interesting
20:25 because its--the Adventist church has been in this region
20:27 for over a 100 years. Right.
20:29 But here you have a section of the population
20:31 that's can go between 30% to 40%
20:35 that has not been reached by the Adventist church
20:38 and they have been preaching the gospel
20:40 using the Bible in the hand
20:42 as you referred to for the last 100 years
20:46 but yet it still hasn't impact this community.
20:50 And that's been the question mark, why?
20:53 And so I went in there and being one of those person.
20:57 I understand the problem first hand.
21:00 And so I began the center to connect to people
21:03 to make tangible difference to their lives.
21:05 For example, here's the community
21:08 of hard working people who wants the best
21:10 for their children and their families
21:12 but they are working so much
21:14 and their children needs education.
21:17 But they have nowhere to turn to
21:18 because of their income and their lifestyle
21:22 they are not able to afford
21:24 quality education for the children.
21:26 So we started a home work center
21:28 where we after school, your children can come
21:31 and get help with Math and English, simple as that.
21:34 And as a result of that we have build
21:36 so many bridges with parents asking us
21:39 what can we do in return for the kindness
21:42 you have shown to us without charging us any money.
21:45 In fact you are so patience,
21:47 you are better than the teachers
21:48 who are trained and paid to do this job. Right.
21:52 And they have come to us for counseling.
21:54 They have come to us about spiritual matters, for prayers,
21:57 for problems in their homes, with their daughters.
22:00 I had many mothers came and said, you know,
22:01 I have a teenage son but I don't know what to do.
22:05 Pastor, can you help us? Tell us what to do.
22:09 You know, can I bring him tomorrow to see you. Wonderful.
22:14 So basically what you are doing there
22:16 is you're using this as a platform
22:19 to put Christ method into practice
22:21 where you are mingling, you are showing sympathy,
22:23 you are ministering to needs
22:24 and you're winning confidence. Certainly.
22:26 And leading people to Jesus.
22:28 So now this takes a little time, Clifmond,
22:32 and I've talked to you about this before,
22:34 how do you balance everything with your family
22:37 and all the work that you are doing?
22:40 Well, as pastors, you know, when--
22:43 before I became a pastor I wonder how, you know,
22:45 what are some of the challenges you faces as the pastor
22:47 but now that I am a pastor,
22:49 I understand it first hand. Yeah.
22:51 And its-- you can get carried away
22:53 when you see people lives are changing
22:54 and that's what you want to do continuously
22:57 and you end up spending long hours out there
22:59 and your family is left isolated.
23:03 And so its a very challenging aspect
23:07 and much more when you are starting something new
23:09 that has never been done before. Of course.
23:12 And so-- I need a lot of prayers.
23:14 You are a pioneer missionary
23:16 and the real live one too which is good.
23:20 Clifmond, thank you so much for joining us today
23:23 and sharing a little bit about you-- some of your work.
23:26 And viewers at home,
23:28 Pastor Clifmond have been putting his heart
23:32 and his life into this ministry.
23:34 And we see that many people who have been--
23:38 I don't want to say ignored
23:39 but have just, have tended to be
23:41 overlooked in our communities
23:43 are people that God loves so much.
23:46 And I want you to please pray for Clifmond,
23:49 pray for the other Global Mission centers in their work
23:52 as they help us find ways
23:54 to more effectively build bridges
23:56 to these precious people.
24:00 It's early morning before dawn
24:02 the Adventist aviation plane has is parked in the hanger.
24:06 Daniel, our pilot arrives
24:08 and gets the aircraft ready for its first mission today.
24:11 Fasten your seatbelts as we taxi to the runway.
24:14 This is another day of mission service.
24:20 We are flying North east over Papua New Guinea
24:23 at an altitude of 10,000 feet.
24:25 It's fairly warm in the plane
24:27 and its a gorgeous morning out the window.
24:30 Papua New Guinea is one of the most
24:32 culturally diverse places on earth
24:35 with pristine teeming jungles,
24:38 jagged mountains,
24:40 deep valleys and turbulent rivers.
24:43 It's one of the least developed
24:45 and most traditional countries on this planet
24:48 where people live much as they have for thousands of years.
24:51 And we are on our way to a remote place
24:54 in the highlands of New Guinea to visit a small village.
25:01 Look down, there it is.
25:02 We are approaching our first destination.
25:05 The villagers are always happy to see us.
25:08 These two children even made model airplanes
25:11 as a sign of admiration for the aviation service.
25:14 The cargo is quickly unloaded here
25:16 and we are off to our next appointment.
25:22 The Seventh-day Adventist plane
25:23 travels to local towns and villages
25:25 where it is very hard to reach with food, supplies
25:29 and medicines for the clinics.
25:31 By plane we can cover distances in an hour
25:34 where it would have taken weeks in the past.
25:37 And for some villages
25:38 it's the only way in as there are no roads.
25:43 On our next stop we will surprise the people
25:45 with a very unique gift, a lawnmower.
25:48 It may seem a trivial tool
25:49 but to the local people it will provide a way
25:52 to maintain their surroundings, gardens, plantations
25:56 and even a clear runway for the plane.
25:59 They seemed very excited with the new gift.
26:01 And after a simple demonstration
26:03 they are equipped to continue the work.
26:08 On our last leg of our trip we will pickup bags of crops.
26:12 The airplane will transport the merchandise to the city
26:15 and bring back means to provide for this community's survival.
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