Global Mission Snapshots

Urban Ministries & Tent Makers

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

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Participants: Gary Krause (Host), Gerson Santos, Rick McEdward

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00:01 Kenyan prisoners singing praises to God,
00:02 a new global mission center and church planting projects
00:06 in Tanzania and Thailand,
00:08 all that and much, much more coming up next
00:11 right here on Global Mission Snapshots.
00:24 Just before He went up to heaven,
00:26 Jesus gave us a command.
00:29 He gave us a mission.
00:32 Jesus said, go.
00:34 Go unto all the world, telling them of His love.
00:39 This is our mission. This is our Global Mission.
00:49 Hello, I am Gary Krause
00:50 and welcome to Global Mission Snapshots.
00:53 If you are a regular viewer of Global Mission Snapshots
00:55 you may have noticed that we have an increasing emphasis
00:59 on mission in urban area of the world.
01:02 Today we'll be talking with Gerson Santos,
01:04 Director for the Global Mission center for Urban Ministries.
01:08 This is a new center focusing specifically on touching
01:12 the lives of people in large cities.
01:15 And we'll also be talking with Rick McEdward,
01:17 Director of the Global Mission Study Centers
01:20 about the tent maker program.
01:22 We'll go to a Kenyan prison
01:24 and we'll meet a woman doing her part
01:26 to provide healthcare in her community in Tanzania.
01:30 But first, let's visit
01:32 Global Mission projects in Thailand.
01:38 About two hours outside of Thailand's capital city Bangkok
01:42 lies the town of Sriracha.
01:45 The Seventh-day Adventist church is growing here.
01:49 This is a Global mission pioneer,
01:51 a church planter dedicated to sharing God's love
01:55 with the people in this area.
01:57 (Speaking in foreign language)
02:02 This global mission pioneer and another Thai pastor
02:05 visit people in their homes to teach them about Jesus.
02:09 This small group is just a handful of those interested
02:12 in studying God's word.
02:14 Many who attend these small groups are not Christians.
02:17 They ask questions because in their hearts they see
02:20 the truths of the Bible and want to know more.
02:23 When some Buddhist is interested and they like to learn more
02:27 about Christianity actually we feel so,
02:30 very happy even they not show much
02:33 but just only one, two people only.
02:36 But if we like they are interested
02:39 and we thank God for that.
02:42 Not long ago this church
02:44 in community center rebuilt in Sriracha.
02:47 The Global Mission pioneer and church members
02:50 reach out to the community in various ways.
02:52 They run language classes,
02:54 play soccer and hold Bible studies
02:57 and people have responded positively.
03:00 We'd like to provide this place for the community here around,
03:06 the people here that they are nonbeliever
03:09 and then we like to set the conclusion by having school,
03:13 having the soccer ball field and also the center,
03:17 here we have a center to service the community.
03:21 Seventh-day Adventist church members around the world
03:24 help fund this church in community center.
03:27 These buildings have a great impact
03:29 on reaching the needs of people in Sriracha.
03:46 Just a few hours from Sriracha,
03:48 in the city of Ayutthaya another recent project
03:52 funded by your mission offerings actively works
03:54 to reach the community.
03:56 Ayutthaya is a city known
03:58 for its ancient temples and vast history.
04:01 Here centuries ago the Burmese armies
04:04 destroy this city leaving behind remains of destruction.
04:08 Now the church here is growing.
04:10 The project here has a church building.
04:13 The church here is creating a foundation of member.
04:16 On this Sabbath the pastor leads and worship
04:19 and the members take part in the service.
04:22 It is a special Sabbath because on this day
04:24 they will participate in communion service.
04:32 Members humbly wash
04:33 one another's feet and pray together.
04:40 As they reenter the church their thoughts are with God.
04:44 The members ask God for forgiveness and courage
04:47 to serve Him each and everyday.
04:49 They eat the bread and drink the juice that represents
04:52 the body and the blood of Jesus.
04:55 This congregation has a passion to serve God
04:58 and share Him with others.
05:00 This congregation would not have a place to worship
05:03 if it was not for your faithful support of mission offerings.
05:07 People all over Thailand are eager to learn about Jesus.
05:11 With the help Adventist pastors and Global Mission pioneers
05:15 they will come to know Him.
05:17 Please pray for these small projects
05:19 located throughout Thailand
05:21 and thank you for your support
05:23 of the mission of the Seventh-day Adventist church
05:27 through your 13th Sabbath offering.
05:38 It's my pleasure to introduce our guest Pastor Gerson Santos.
05:42 Pastor Santos is one of the church leaders
05:45 in greater New York area of the United Sates
05:49 but he is also the Director
05:50 for the Global Mission Center for Urban Ministries.
05:54 And Gerson, thank you so much for joining us.
05:56 My pleasure.
05:58 This is the newest Global Mission Center,
06:00 we have had centers for Islam,
06:02 for Buddhism, for Hinduism, for Judaism,
06:05 for secular and postmodernism
06:08 but you are the representative of the newer center.
06:10 Why do we need a center for urban ministry?
06:14 Well, I believe the exact reason you just kind of stated
06:17 because you have so different kinds of specific study centers,
06:22 specific ministries to reach those special groups
06:26 but most of them live in the cities.
06:28 And so there are something common among all of them
06:34 and recently as we saw the growth of people
06:38 living in the cities, it's amazing.
06:40 In last 200 years we have a large percentage of population
06:44 growing in urban areas.
06:46 So there is a special need for that.
06:47 And historically, if we're going to be honest
06:50 the Seventh-day Adventist church has not done well
06:52 in urban areas mostly.
06:54 That's true and there are several reasons for that.
06:57 I would say first of all
06:59 probably because it's very costly,
07:01 everything in the city cost much more.
07:04 Traditionally I think our pioneers were the people
07:07 that came from farms or small towns
07:09 so yeah, it's easy for them to you know,
07:12 operate in a setting that will be more familiar to them.
07:15 And later on I think was kind of emphasis in living the cities
07:19 because of the challenges of the, the dangers of the city
07:24 we kind of develop a culture of avoiding the cities.
07:27 So, Gerson, what do we find in the cities in terms of ministry?
07:32 What is working, what sorts of models
07:35 we're finding that are having an effect?
07:39 I can list to you at least a few to illustrate
07:43 some of the most impressive ministries
07:45 that I think have been very effective.
07:47 I'd say number one is small group ministries.
07:50 I really believe the small groups
07:52 is the best setting to develop and to make disciples.
07:55 And this is our main goal, to make disciples.
07:58 So the small group ministry has been very effective.
08:02 Anywhere in the world, any culture, any language,
08:04 group you can imagine and I've seen so many places
08:08 that I could tell you for sure small group ministries,
08:12 this is the best and the number one ministry
08:15 to develop in the cities to make disciples.
08:18 I'd add to that probably mission communists,
08:23 something that is larger than a small group
08:25 but it is stronger just as small group meeting in the home
08:29 but maybe could be a group of small groups,
08:33 let's say two or three small groups coming together
08:35 once a month or once a quarter or having a department
08:39 or a ministry from a local church
08:42 or institution organizing a missionary outreach.
08:47 And I've seen in a couple of places this work,
08:50 I mean, in a wonderful way.
08:52 Another one I'd say is church planting.
08:54 I mean, when you're trying to reach a specific group
08:58 like you mentioned in the beginning,
09:00 Jewish, Muslims, Hindus or secular people
09:04 I mean, you need to plant a new church
09:06 because most of the church established in that area
09:08 won't be fit enough to receive,
09:13 welcome and integrate into their ministry
09:16 because that's another challenge.
09:17 It's not just to be you know,
09:19 having a hospitality department in your church,
09:23 very nice ushers and people will feel comfortable
09:27 but if they don't feel they are the part of the ministry
09:31 most of them will leave later on.
09:33 So we need to find an open space for new leadership,
09:36 and church planting does that.
09:38 This s why it's proven, church plant
09:40 is the best methodology to expand God's kingdom.
09:43 Yeah.
09:44 I would add also to that lay leadership.
09:48 We need to develop a new kind of approach to leadership.
09:51 Pastors need to be more trainers than just pastoring the church,
09:56 shepherds of the church and to develop new leaders
10:00 for these new churches that have been planted
10:03 because the church will never be able to fund
10:06 and hire new pastors for a wave of new churches.
10:11 If we really need to reach the word,
10:13 if we want to do that we gonna have
10:15 to plant thousands of new churches
10:16 and we need lay leadership.
10:19 By vocation pastors,
10:21 lay people that are really commit to the work
10:23 and be trained to be leaders of these new congregations.
10:27 And the last one I'd mention is centers of influence.
10:31 Defiantly all our churches, the schools,
10:34 institutions, book stores,
10:36 I mean, even a house can become
10:38 a center of influence in the community.
10:41 Yeah, Ellen White had a vision
10:44 for small centers of influence in every city.
10:48 She was talking about things like a cafe,
10:50 a vegetarian restaurant, treatment rooms,
10:52 simple health remedy, whatever it takes to connect
10:55 with community which brings me, Gerson,
10:58 well, I take this opportunity to talk about
11:00 this new magazine literally off
11:03 the presses last week, Mission 360.
11:06 We have print copies of it
11:08 but mainly this is going to be digital.
11:11 A digital magazine, you can get it for your Kindle,
11:14 fro your iPhone, for your iPad, you can view it online.
11:17 Nice thing, Gerson, too is that you'll read an article
11:19 and then in the middle of the article
11:21 you'll be able to press a button and play a video
11:23 about giving more information.
11:25 And in this first edition there is an article
11:28 on centers of influence.
11:30 And the opportunities for starting new centers
11:35 that connect to the community in a holistic way
11:38 to put Christ method into practice.
11:41 Gerson, as we look at the challenge
11:43 of the cities are you optimistic?
11:46 Oh, I think natural, this is part of my nature.
11:50 I really see a lot of potential.
11:52 I mean, you can focus on the program
11:54 but I see a lot of opportunities in the city.
11:57 I mean, you have so many people
11:59 and I mean, the population of the large cities is booming.
12:02 I mean, this is-- they are growing,
12:05 the large cities in the world are growing
12:08 and it's like Dave in the past.
12:10 I mean, people could see the giant and say,
12:12 he's too big, he's gonna kill us.
12:13 But Dave just saw and said,
12:14 he's too big, I can't miss it.
12:16 I mean, it's a tremendous opportunity,
12:20 in the cities you have so many people.
12:22 We need to find a way to connect to some of them
12:25 to reach them for Christ.
12:26 Fantastic. Gerson, thank you so much for joining us.
12:29 My pleasure.
12:30 Viewers at home, again this magazine,
12:33 just go to Mission360mag.og and you'll find it.
12:38 And if you want to find out more information
12:40 about Adventist urban mission go to
12:42 missiontothecities.org that will tell you everything
12:45 that is happening, there will be resources,
12:47 information so much that you can pray for.
13:38 My guest is Dr. Rick McEdward,
13:39 who is the director of the Global Mission Studies Centers.
13:42 Thank you for joining us, Rick.
13:43 Happy to be here, Gary.
13:45 The Apostle Paul, when I think of him
13:46 I am thinking of a wonderful preacher,
13:48 I am thinking of a church planter
13:50 but what was his real profession?
13:53 Yeah, we always think of him
13:54 as the world's greatest evangelism
13:55 but he was really a tent maker.
13:58 He knew how to use a needle and thread
14:01 with the canvas and make tents.
14:03 So how is that important when we're thinking about mission?
14:07 Well, ultimately, the Apostle Paul
14:08 was the very first self-supporting missionary.
14:11 He didn't rely on somebody else to give him a salary.
14:16 He made his own way and he went from place to place
14:19 selling his canvas, selling the tents,
14:21 finding others who'd like
14:23 the profession and gathering them, etcetera
14:25 and so we see that he was willing to provide
14:29 for his own needs while sharing the gospel.
14:32 So when we look at the example of Paul,
14:36 we today, are the people following that tradition?
14:39 Actually, in Christian circles,
14:41 we call self-supporting missionaries,
14:43 we call them tentmakers.
14:46 Not all self-supporting missionaries
14:48 we would want to lump in that category
14:50 but those that use their profession
14:53 to go to a country that maybe of restricted access
14:58 and there by sharing Christian,
15:01 a cautious Christian witness
15:03 or maybe even starting a house church or a church.
15:06 Now when you say a country of restricted access,
15:08 what do you mean?
15:09 Well, you know we used to say
15:10 that there are closed countries and open countries.
15:13 But no country is closed to the Holy Spirit.
15:16 So we refer them as restricted access
15:18 because the government may not open up
15:21 for missionaries to come and go.
15:23 But business people and teachers and others can easily
15:27 access countries like that with jobs.
15:30 So these are people who take the initiative
15:32 to find the job in an area, run a business,
15:36 teach whatever but their main goal is to be a witness.
15:39 That's absolutely right.
15:41 So are there many of these tentmakers today?
15:43 Actually, the numbers are hard to calculate
15:46 because not everybody goes through an organization.
15:49 But yes, there are thousands of tentmakers around the world
15:51 and often found in some of the hardest spots
15:55 where we wouldn't normally want to go.
15:59 So can you give me an example of an Adventist tentmaker?
16:03 Absolutely, I know of a family who's been serving
16:06 for quite a number of years and they have located
16:12 in a restrictive accessed country.
16:15 One is a teacher, another does a small business
16:18 and one by one, they make friends and generate interests.
16:25 Why are they doing this?
16:27 Because they want to share their faith
16:30 and a lot of people think that tent making means
16:33 what we call tent faking.
16:35 In other words, you fake getting a job
16:37 so you can go and start a church
16:39 but we're talking about people who are doing a legitimate job.
16:42 Who are doing the very highest quality work possible,
16:46 who have integrity with their Boston co-workers
16:49 and therefore, use that as an avenue
16:53 for sharing what's genuinely going on in their hearts.
16:55 Now how does the Adventist church
16:58 give support to people like this?
16:59 Well, we have had tent making program for quite a long time
17:04 and we are right now giving more exposure to this
17:08 because we realize that traditional structures
17:11 may not always be able to meet the needs of the word field.
17:15 You know we have many places
17:17 that if I sign up as a missionary,
17:21 I may not be able to go.
17:24 So if somebody is viewing this program and said,
17:27 well, there might be something I might want to try,
17:29 where you start?
17:31 I think the best place to start is to contact
17:35 our office at Adventist Mission.
17:39 I think that there is a way to find information
17:44 by contacting me there, info@adventistmission.org.
17:48 And I think that we can also support people
17:52 who are looking for places to go,
17:55 by sharing with them where the greatest needs are.
17:59 Is this something that is dangerous?
18:01 Is it risky?
18:02 It doesn't have to be.
18:04 You know I've lived in a number of countries
18:06 that people say, oh, I can't live there
18:09 because it's risky but if we were there as people,
18:15 not as a missionary sent,
18:18 but as people who build friendships,
18:20 who do our work well, we're not talking about
18:23 something that's illegal because every country
18:26 people are allowed to ask questions.
18:28 And when we live our faith with integrity
18:31 people are naturally gonna ask us questions.
18:34 So in the training sessions for tentmakers,
18:38 what are the sort of principles that are shared with them?
18:41 Naturally, we want people understand
18:42 how to do cross cultural ministry.
18:44 There's a lot of understanding.
18:47 We assume a lot that people everywhere think
18:52 just like us but as soon as we get out of North America
18:55 or whatever country you're from we find
18:58 that there is world view patterns, cultural, customs
19:01 and different things that make
19:03 people understand life differently.
19:06 So we have a training that helps people understand.
19:10 We also talk about the incarnational ministry of Jesus.
19:16 Tell me a little about more of that.
19:17 The incarnational ministry of Christ,
19:20 you know, He had the comforts of heaven,
19:22 He had all that anybody would ever want
19:24 and what did He do?
19:25 He gave it up, He came into a sin-sick world
19:30 and He was born into a barn with the flies
19:33 and cockroaches and animals
19:35 and He lived His life among the people telling the stories
19:38 to the people, connecting with people,
19:41 understanding the elements that people have
19:43 and so Jesus was one among us.
19:47 And that's what mission is.
19:50 So it's not a quick sorting into deliver information
19:53 and then escape out quickly again?
19:55 We tend to do that because it's easy
19:58 but the reality is Christ commitment was until death.
20:01 That's right.
20:02 And often times we haven't considered the cost.
20:06 Thank you, Rick for joining us today.
20:07 Pleasure.
20:08 And viewers at home, please pray for tentmakers.
20:12 These are people who extremely committed.
20:14 They have moved to different areas for one purpose
20:18 and that is to be a witness for Jesus Christ.
20:21 And that can be discouraging, it can be lonely at times.
20:25 Sometimes they don't know what their next step will be
20:27 and it is encouraging for them to know
20:29 that there is a world church who are there praying for them,
20:33 supporting them, who care for them.
20:35 If you want to find out more information
20:36 about tent making just go to AdvetistMission.org.
20:48 Of the Tanzanian shore of Lake Victoria
20:51 lies the city of Mwanza, nicknamed the Rock City,
20:55 it is home to more than 30 growing Adventist churches.
20:58 This growth happened in such a fast rate.
21:01 Churches are being planted in communities
21:03 throughout Mwanza and beyond.
21:05 The members here are on fire for the Lord
21:08 and the mission of the church.
21:21 One of these members is Priska.
21:23 She is dedicated to following God in any way He calls her.
21:32 Throughout the week she works hard to support a modest life.
21:36 Priska sells vegetables and herbs at a local market.
21:39 And many of which have medicinal values.
21:41 She works long days in the market looking forward
21:44 to the Sabbath when she can rest and spend time with Jesus.
21:48 From her earnings, Priska keeps only what she needs to survive
21:51 and the rest is given to the church.
21:58 At home Priska lives in humble quarters.
22:01 She praises God for what she has
22:03 and loyally spends time with Him.
22:06 Outside her home she allows people
22:07 to use her property to create bricks.
22:10 The small amount of money that comes from this
22:12 goes directly to the church.
22:14 She doesn't keep a single coin for herself.
22:17 She feels strongly that God will provide for her
22:19 as long as she is faithful to Him.
22:23 Priska and other members at Mwanza are committed
22:25 to the mission of the Seventh-day Adventist church.
22:28 They willingly sacrifice what they have
22:30 so that they can help others learn about Jesus.
22:34 Here in Mwanza there is a great need for a hospital.
22:38 The small Adventist health clinic here is overcrowded
22:40 because peoplein the community trust Adventist doctors.
22:44 The members here give everything they can
22:46 so that they can see a hospital here some day.
22:49 Construction has already began,
22:51 thanks to the faithful giving of the local church members.
22:54 On this particular Sabbath 33 goats, 3 cows
22:58 and one sheep are pledged to the church
23:00 so that they can be sold
23:01 and the money can be used to continue building.
23:05 Thank you for supporting projects like this
23:07 around the world
23:08 by giving to your 13th Sabbath offering each quarter.
23:25 Global Mission pioneers are some of
23:27 the most courageous people I know.
23:29 Hundreds of pioneers are working around the world
23:32 to start new congregations
23:33 and new unintended often very difficult areas.
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24:05 Well, I hope you've been challenged
24:06 and inspired by what you've seen here today.
24:09 Please remember to pray for and support mission in your church.
24:14 Thanks for joining us today as we leave
24:16 I hope you're blessed as you listen
24:18 to this prison choir in Kenya.
24:21 Until next time, I'm Gary Krause
24:23 wishing you God's richest blessings.
24:25 And I hope you can join us next time
24:27 right here on Global Mission Snapshots.


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