On today's program
former Seventh-day Adventist
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world church
president Jan Paulsen's
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conversation with young people
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and how Adventists are touching
lives through health programs
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in challenging
places in the 10/40 Window.
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Just before He
went up to heaven,
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Jesus gave us a command.
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He gave us a
mission. Jesus said, go.
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Go unto all the world,
telling them of His love.
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This is our mission.
This is our "Global Mission."
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Hello I am Gary Krause
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and welcome to
"Global Mission Snapshots."
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Today we'll be talking with
former world church president
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of the Seventh-day Adventist
church, Dr. Jan Paulsen.
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While he was president,
Dr. Paulsen fielded questions
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from the young
Adventists at various meetings
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held in various
parts of the world.
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Today Dr. Paulsen will be
talking about that experience
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and what he has
learnt about mission
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from listening to young people.
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We'll also be talking
with an Adventist couple
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who are helping touch lives
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in some of the most
challenging 10/40 Window areas.
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They'll be sharing
stories about how Adventists
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are ministering to people
through holistic ministry.
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We'll also watch a
classic Adventist mission video
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called, 'A Cowboy's
tale' from South America.
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But first up, let's
see how doctors and nurses
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at a hospital in Nigeria
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are touching the
lives of children in need.
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And when they are born they
don't want their parents to know
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they throw them away.
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Or they bring them to a place
where somebody can feed them up.
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When I think of
you, I start to smile.
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You are God and
you make me so happy.
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People look at me and wonder
why I'm smiling all the time
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And I think
well, why shouldn't I.
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You make me so happy,
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Jesus, You make me so happy.
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We have a team of nurses who are
highly qualified and dedicated,
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taking care of those children
and many of them are mothers,
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so they know
what they are doing.
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You make me so happy,
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Jesus, You make me so happy.
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Our motto is
serving humanity for Christ.
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And that's exactly
what we want to do.
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It's my pleasure to introduce
our guest Dr. Jan Paulsen.
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Dr. Paulsen, former
General Conference president
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heading up the
Seventh-day Adventist church,
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has worked in many different
capacities for the church,
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as a pastor, as a
teacher, as a missionary,
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as a mentor to young people,
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as an
administrator, the list goes on.
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You've written
many books, Dr. Paulsen.
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I am glad you've come
today to share with us.
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This is the most recent book,
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'Let's Talk'
hot off the presses.
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Why did you as the
General Conference president,
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take time to
talk to young people?
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Well, it seems so
natural, it seemed normal.
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I mean, they
make up the under 32,
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in our church they make up 50%,
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at least 50% of
our global family.
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And then many of them feel,
oh, somewhat this in franchise.
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They feel that they
have no meaningful role
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or place in the
church and are overlooked.
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And I felt as
president, let me see if I can,
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somehow by
conversation with them
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draw them a little bit closer
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into the life of the church,
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may be I also,
as an administrator,
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as a church
leader have something
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to learn that they can tell me.
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So and to achieve some of that,
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during a seven year
period while I was president,
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we held 30 of these
live television unscripted,
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many of them shown both
on Hope Channel and 3ABN.
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Live conversations in
every part of the world,
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from all cultures and yeah,
it was a wonderful experience.
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I learned a lot from them
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and it gave them a
voice to speak to not just me,
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but to speak to the church.
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There are many
who do by watching.
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I remember watching
some of these, Dr. Paulsen,
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and my dominant thought was,
I am glad it's him and not me
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because you didn't
know the questions,
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they could ask
anything they wanted,
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it's going on live television.
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Were there any
tricky moments? Not really.
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I mean, I said to them typically
before we went on the air,
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I said, look,
if you want to make
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a fool of yourself,
this is your chance.
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Because it was unscripted
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but it became very,
very quickly clear to me
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that they felt very
protective of the church,
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they felt a strong
loyalty to the church.
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They wanted the
church, not just them,
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but they wanted the
church to look good.
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So they were
very, very responsible
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and also I felt in
the kind of questions
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that they would
like to engage me in.
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Yes, they were some
trivial questions also.
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But on the whole,
there were questions
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of importance to the church,
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to the life and
witness of the church.
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And they were
questions which they--
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who cared
profoundly for the church,
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wanted the church
leaders to think about it.
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Also interestingly I discovered,
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I mean sometimes
I gave them answer,
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I had the answers to most
of them I think I probably did.
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But there were
times when I did not know,
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and that was not a problem.
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To them the most
important thing was,
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they could engage me as a
church leader in conversation,
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they were being listened
to, and they were being given
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an opportunity to talk to
you, to talk to the church.
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And that was the
wonderful thing about it.
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Yeah, fantastic.
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Now, Dr. Paulsen, this book,
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'Let's Talk'
published by Pacific Press.
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Tell me about the format,
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the way it's
structured and its purpose?
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This book was
just came out last week
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and we introduced it
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to the General
Conference Executive Committee
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which met for
their spring meetings
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in Battle Creek, just last week.
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And we gave a copy of it to
each member of the committee.
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What we thought in
producing this book
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was that we would select, it
doesn't solve the main issues
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that came up in
these 30 conversations
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because they were a
number of core issues
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that kept coming up
whether it was in Asia,
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in Africa, in South America,
in Europe or in North America.
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Where ever we were,
they were core questions
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that kept coming
up, questions about
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the function and role of
young people in the church,
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question about diversity, race
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and the challenges of cultures
which sometimes conflict,
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questions about
marriage and co-habitation,
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about homosexuality,
about military service,
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about should an
Adventist run for election,
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for government office,
or for congress or whatever.
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So there were big issues
that constantly kept coming
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and they wanted to talk
with me about standards.
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Standards of dress, of
music, of eating and drinking.
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So these are big issues
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and so we
selected a dozen of these
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and made them into
chapters in a book.
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At the opening of each chapter,
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however you will find a
two-and-half or three pages
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of exact quotations from
the young people themselves.
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These were the questions,
this is what bothered them,
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we didn't try to polish
any of those, so let it be--
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and some of it may
not be comfortable reading
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but it's what they
said to the church.
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This is what troubled them.
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This is what they
wanted answers to.
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And then I spent the next
7, 8 or 9 pages reflecting
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on what we might possibly
say in response to them.
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But we wanted the book
to be more than just a book
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which you read and then
put on the shelf somewhere.
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We wanted a book to have
a active life in the church
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so at the end of each chapter,
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there are, there is a
page of conversation starters
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or conversation
teasers, that's the way
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by which we are
trying to stimulate
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a cross generational
conversation into church.
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And frankly you know,
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we need to learn to
talk more to each other.
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What happens if you don't talk?
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When people stop talking,
they walk away from each other?
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We cannot allow that
to happen in our church.
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I want those who are young
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and those of us who
are not so young anymore
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to function like a family
where we understand each other,
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we care for each
other, we embrace each other,
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also our intellect is
capable of embracing each other,
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so that we can give
some sort of affirmation,
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some sort of authenticity
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to what we stand
for and what we share.
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We have to do this together,
we need for all, young or old
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to be involved in
the life of the church.
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Fantastic, Dr. Paulsen.
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I am sure that--
thank you so much
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for joining us today
to talk about this book.
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Viewers at home 'Let's talk,'
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conversations with young
Adventists about their church,
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available at
Adventist book centers,
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available online and I
guess even at amazon.com in time
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so, I just want to
briefly read from the back here
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what Dr. Paulsen
says, "As I look back,
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I am struck by the
richness, beauty and balance
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of what young Adventists
men and women have taught me."
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and he talks
about, "I continually met
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my master teacher who
never tired of teaching
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and re-teaching
me the immense value
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of every person
for who He died."
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Please pray for the
young people in our church,
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the young adults,
the young professionals
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who are so vital not just
for the future of the church
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but for the
present of this church.
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They need to be involved
in the mission of this church,
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and they can bring so
much, so much strength
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to reaching out
to our communities.
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I am very happy to welcome
Marshall and Rosemary McKenzie
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who have joined us
from the Middle East.
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Thanks for coming. Thank you.
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Now I presume you are
doing some other things
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in United States
other than visiting me,
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but it's great to
have you in our program.
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Now when did you
move to the Middle East?
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We moved to the
Middle East just,
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it was February,
actually of 2011. Okay.
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When we arrived,
late in February.
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So you've been there
for more than a year. Yeah.
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Now you got kids, 3, 6 and 9.
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That was a pretty
big step, right? It was.
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How they are adapting?
They are doing very good.
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They had
opportunity to make friends
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with kids that are of their age,
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there are some
nice group of kids,
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that are very
close to their age,
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and it's good,
they're enjoying it,
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they are enjoying
being able to see.
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Our son said, "Mom,
I want to go and see
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all those archeological places.
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So it's good for--
it's good for them.
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That was an
experience I will never forget.
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Now, Rosemary, you
had a dream since a kid
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to go overseas to do this
sort of thing that you're doing.
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Tell me about that?
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Ever since I've
been a little girl,
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I always wished that our
family could go as missionaries,
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so growing up
that never happened,
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but now we've had opportunity
to serve in the Middle East
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and so when we were asked to go,
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sure that would
be great. Wonderful.
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Now, you are
working specifically
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in the area of
distributing literature
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to help people in
various aspects of their lives.
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You're also involved
in helping young people.
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Tell me a story of something
that's happening over there.
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You know it's exciting to see
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the young people of
the Middle East leading out
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and there is one young
man that I really appreciated,
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his friendship,
we're growing as friends,
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he is growing, we're friends
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and their families interacts
with our children very well.
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And to hear his story
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the fact that he
wanted to know God better,
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and through a series of events,
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especially in accident
that almost took his life.
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He realized that waking up
from a coma that he was in,
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realizing God has a
purpose for my life,
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and so he began to
follow that purpose.
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Matter of fact he had a dream,
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and in that
dream, he saw his friend
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but there was no
one else in his village.
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And but they
were all congregating,
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his friend said,
they're over there,
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they're congregating,
they are worshipping together
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and this young man
went over to this a group
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and realized all these
people were worshipping
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and that his
responsibility was to nurture
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these types of
families and help people
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to continue to
grow closer to God
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and he comes
from a war torn area
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and it's exciting to
see at the age of 23,
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that here's this young
man that gave his life to God
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and now wants to serve
God with his whole heart
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and he just wants other people
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to enjoy their
relationship with God also
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and have the same joy
and service as he's having.
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I mean it's a real encouragement
to see those kinds of stories
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come out of the
Middle East where sometimes
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people don't think those
positive things are happening.
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Now how do you find that people
received you as an American
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in a territory
that is very sensitive
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at the moment in
many political ways.
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How do people respond to you?
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They'd respond very positively,
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because they
really appreciate us,
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we appreciate them, we
appreciate working with them.
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I found that people have
been very friendly to me,
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now of course, in a
male society like that,
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it's a little easier, but
overall it's been wonderful.
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We've had people get our friends
that have come to visit us
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and they've
gotten of the airplane
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and people said welcome
you know, to our country.
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And they've just been
very friendly and very open
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and we've really
appreciated that.
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We felt very
welcome in the Middle East.
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Rosemary, how about you?
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I would say the same,
people are more curious than
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you know sometimes we think that
every body hates us or something
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because we are
from the United States
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and there's probably
people that feel that way,
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but more people are
just like, you know,
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they are always
asking, where are you from,
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then they would
say, and they are like,
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oh, you're- just
wanting to understand
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because they don't
see a lot of people
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from outside of their culture,
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so they, you know, have
whatever idea in their own mind
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and so we also break
stereotypes for them.
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Yeah, excellent.
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We were talking before about,
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I think you call
them for your life center,
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for your life
center, tell me about this?
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The idea is, our goal is just to
help the people in the community
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be more aware of their health,
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and so that they can live longer
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and be happier
as they are living
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and so this center
is for the community,
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it's to help the community,
it's to meet community needs.
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And so we actually had
some young people join us
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for a couple of weeks
and it was exciting to see
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how they were-- we were
just doing health screening
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and we didn't expect,
the expectation was low
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and in a week we
served about 600 people.
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And it was
exciting to see them coming
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from all over the city
really to come into this
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because they've heard
about this for your life center
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and they could get health
screening and it was exciting,
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we are meeting
people with diabetes,
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that didn't know
that they had diabetes
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and we were
developing relationships
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and it was exciting to see
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the development of
those relationships.
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And we've had young people
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from the Middle East
University join us in that
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and with translation and things
and to see those two components,
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the young people from
outside the Middle East
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and young people from inside
the Middle East come together
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and work together to
benefit the community
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was just a blessing from God.
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And you told me about a doctor
who came and offered to help?
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Yeah, we had this doctor,
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who actually went
through the health screening
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they wanted to
see what it was about
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they came in, you know,
they got their blood pressure,
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they got their finger pricked,
you know, for blood glucose
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and then afterwards they said,
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"You know, what you're
doing here is a real benefit
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and I work for refugees
and we would love for you,
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if you have a
chance, if you want to come,
00:19:03.08\00:19:04.90
you let us know, we will give
you 500 people in a day. Wow.
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So it was--we saw the doors
opening and God just blessing
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because we were meeting a
real need in the community
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that existed and
people responded to it.
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Rosemary, were you
involved in this as well?
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I was involved in a little bit,
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mostly in just helping
provide logistical support
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but another contact
that was made there was,
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one of the ladies,
another missionary wife
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had been praying
for an opportunity
00:19:36.01\00:19:37.87
to connect with
refugees in our country.
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There's a lot
of displaced people
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that are coming into
our country right now.
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And she had made
phone calls and connect,
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you know, tried to
connect with people
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and had made no success at all.
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And so finally she used to say,
00:19:50.72\00:19:53.51
you know, Lord, I don't
know to find the opportunity
00:19:53.54\00:19:56.83
to connect with these
people but there is a huge need.
00:19:56.86\00:19:59.34
And so because of
this health screening
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that was offered, a lot of
these people were coming through
00:20:02.85\00:20:05.59
and so she was able to connect
with them in a personal way.
00:20:05.62\00:20:08.70
Fantastic. Wonderful.
00:20:08.73\00:20:11.08
Well thank you so
much for joining us today.
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I appreciate
you and the stories.
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And viewers at home,
the Middle East is a place
00:20:15.50\00:20:20.66
with so many
people, so many needs,
00:20:20.69\00:20:22.95
and please pray for people
such as Marshall and Rosemary
00:20:22.98\00:20:26.65
as they are there
serving the people
00:20:26.68\00:20:28.91
and making a difference.
00:20:28.94\00:20:30.77
Manuel Ledesma walks his
farm in northwest Argentina.
00:20:36.05\00:20:41.84
At 87 years of age he
still works his farm every day.
00:20:41.87\00:20:45.91
He's proud of the fact
that he still rides his horse,
00:20:51.86\00:20:54.64
something he had done
for the past 80 years.
00:20:54.67\00:21:00.21
As the corn leaves Manuel's
hand and falls to the ground
00:21:00.24\00:21:03.84
his sheep quickly fight
the chickens for every kernel.
00:21:03.87\00:21:07.22
Manuel not only
feeds his literal sheep
00:21:07.25\00:21:10.39
but God's sheep as well.
00:21:10.42\00:21:13.20
Manuel and his wife Elyssia
became Adventists 20 years ago,
00:21:13.23\00:21:17.42
and ever since
have shared God's love
00:21:17.45\00:21:19.55
with their family and friends.
00:21:19.58\00:21:21.79
Once a week Manuel
and his grandson Lucas
00:21:40.22\00:21:43.42
take the short
walk to the church
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at the end of their
property to prepare for Sabbath.
00:21:45.61\00:21:48.37
This building is
home to 20 church members
00:21:48.40\00:21:51.63
and his key to opening the
doors of Ojito to the gospel,
00:21:51.66\00:21:55.39
even though his own
house doesn't have electricity,
00:21:55.42\00:21:58.71
Manuel has made sure
that the little church does.
00:21:58.74\00:22:02.53
The mission
offering this quarter
00:22:02.56\00:22:03.90
will help to update the church
00:22:03.93\00:22:05.56
and provide a source
of light to a community
00:22:05.59\00:22:08.31
that has been kept in the dark.
00:22:08.34\00:22:10.09
As Manuel sweeps the
floor, Lucas practices
00:22:12.27\00:22:15.71
singing his
favorite Sabbath song.
00:22:15.74\00:22:18.25
(Foreign language)
00:22:18.28\00:22:26.25
As they start to walk back home,
00:22:31.45\00:22:33.87
Manuel tells his
grandson how important it is
00:22:33.90\00:22:36.38
to give back to God and thanks
00:22:36.41\00:22:38.25
for all the blessings
they receive from Him.
00:22:38.28\00:22:42.45
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00:23:11.51\00:23:14.72
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Well that's it
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Thank you so much for your
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00:23:47.60\00:23:50.77
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00:23:50.80\00:23:54.42
As we close today's
program with a music video,
00:23:54.45\00:23:57.56
may you be inspired to pray for
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and support mission
work around the world.
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Until next
time, I am Gary Krause
00:24:03.52\00:24:05.35
wishing you
God's richest blessing.
00:24:05.38\00:24:07.49
You love me so much
more than I could ever know
00:24:18.44\00:24:23.72
Your love is deeper than
this world will ever show
00:24:23.75\00:24:28.95
And all of life's beauty
shines around this moment now
00:24:28.98\00:24:34.17
The sky and the cliffs they
seem to change my life somehow
00:24:34.20\00:24:39.55
And I will, will
never be the same
00:24:39.58\00:24:45.81
Never be the same
00:24:45.84\00:24:50.21
I will never be,
never be the same.
00:24:50.24\00:24:56.39
Never be the same ever again.
00:24:56.42\00:25:05.65
Here I am waiting
Lord, my life is just for you
00:25:05.68\00:25:10.95
Please unfold all the
plans that you would have me do
00:25:10.98\00:25:16.16
In all the worlds just a
breath and nothing here to stay
00:25:16.19\00:25:21.34
And all of the love we
feel will save us anyway
00:25:21.37\00:25:26.65
And I will never
be, never be same
00:25:26.68\00:25:33.07
Never be the same.
00:25:33.10\00:25:37.56
I will never be,
never be the same
00:25:37.59\00:25:43.44
Never be the same ever again.
00:25:43.47\00:25:48.64
I will never be,
never be the same
00:26:18.81\00:26:25.12
Never be the same
00:26:25.15\00:26:29.64
I will never be,
never be the same
00:26:29.67\00:26:35.51
Never be the same ever again
00:26:35.54\00:26:43.70
Ever again Ever again
00:26:43.73\00:26:51.70
Never be the same.
00:26:54.21\00:26:57.59