Global Mission Snapshots

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Participants: Gary Krause (Host), Cheryl Doss, Rick McEdward

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00:01 Understanding other cultures and world religions,
00:03 education in India and a family with mission in their genes,
00:07 all that and more coming up
00:09 right here on "Global Mission snapshots"
00:23 Just before He went up to heaven,
00:25 Jesus gave us a command. He gave us a mission.
00:30 Jesus said, go.
00:33 "Go unto all the world, telling them of His love."
00:38 This is our mission. This is our "Global Mission."
00:48 Hello and welcome to Global Mission Snapshots.
00:50 I'm Gary Krause.
00:52 If you have ever traveled to another country
00:54 you know there are often
00:55 major differences in language and culture.
00:58 Those differences impact our ability to shop, eat, socialize
01:03 and most important our ability to share the gospel.
01:07 Today we will be talking with Cheryl Doss,
01:09 director of the Institute of World Mission.
01:12 Every year Dr. Doss and her team train the Adventist churches
01:16 international mission workers how to be more effective
01:19 when they are living and working in other cultures.
01:23 We will also talk with Dr. Rick McEdward,
01:26 director of the Global Mission Study Centers
01:28 about how to communicate with people
01:31 whose understanding of religion is totally different to ours.
01:35 Where do you even start
01:37 if they don't believe in the Bible or in God?
01:41 But first up, let's visit a family with a heart for mission
01:45 who have passed on the spirit of service to their children.
01:56 As a physician, as you are trained,
01:59 your primary goal in training is to take good
02:02 medical care of people to make sure
02:04 that their health is cared for in a proper way.
02:08 But as time is gone by I realized that,
02:11 that's really not the primary issue.
02:13 That my primary goal is to give people to Jesus and to know Him,
02:19 and so I began to see medical practice
02:23 as a tool to lead people to Jesus.
02:26 And so I tried to focus on somehow
02:30 using our medical practice not only as a tool to help people
02:34 have a healthier life until recover from disease
02:37 but even more importantly to come to know
02:40 the one who can provide eternal life.
02:44 Greg, our oldest he always wanted to be a physician.
02:48 He has ended up being trained as a surgeon and served overseas
02:51 and many different places most recently in Cameroon.
03:01 I would say it was probably somewhere in high school
03:03 that I decided I really wanted
03:05 to be a missionary and specifically a physician.
03:14 I guess it was in medical school in Loma Linda,
03:16 where it was really solidified and I choose to be part of
03:19 the Deferred Mission Appointee Program.
03:27 I did three and half years of residency
03:30 in family practice training and haven't seen anything here
03:34 that I ever saw in family practice training.
03:39 As a missionary my goal is too pronged,
03:41 I mean of course I'm a physician so I want to aspect,
03:44 I want to reach their physical needs
03:47 but more importantly we need to reach their spiritual needs.
03:51 And there are certain people at the hospital
03:54 that we've been able to minister to
03:56 and we have seen people who've had tetanus
03:59 who have been sick in hospital for many weeks
04:04 and then for a long recovery period after that.
04:07 And with time and praying every single day with them,
04:11 they have come to know Jesus and give their heart to God
04:15 and I think that's the most encouragement
04:17 is individual lives have been changed.
04:27 Cristy, our middle daughter also wanted to be a physician
04:31 since she was young and served in Malamulo Hospital in Malawi.
04:47 I love the chance to come to a place
04:52 and care for people who know what we are really caring for.
04:57 I find that intensely satisfying
05:01 and I think that's why I've always wanted to do this.
05:03 If you stop working at home, your patients get upset
05:07 and they go see someone else.
05:08 Here people die and I think that's what
05:11 I find truly gratifying about being here.
05:15 I feel like it touches into what Jesus talked about
05:19 when He saw the multitudes and He had compassion on them.
05:22 I think that's really what it comes on to for me.
05:26 We always think of blessings
05:27 as being safe or happy or things like that.
05:31 But I think you can be blessed
05:32 by loneliness and by being homesick.
05:35 I think God Jesus will bless you in a different way
05:38 and by being here I'm getting to be molded by God
05:43 and you don't often get to see that very clearly in your life.
05:50 Heather, our youngest has taken a different track.
05:54 She really was not interested in medicine,
05:56 which was fine with us, so she trained as a teacher
05:59 and taught elementary school for many years
06:01 and now is married to a pastor, and she and her husband
06:06 are pastoring four churches in Kansas
06:09 and I guess I see that, she is just as much a missionary
06:13 as our other children because she is there helping people
06:17 study the gospel, just in a different form.
06:19 I mean that is God's mission
06:21 to go over and help people wherever we are,
06:24 whether we are here in the U.S. or whether we are out of U.S.,
06:27 go and help people and teach them about the Lord
06:30 as well as helping their physical well beings.
06:34 ( praying in foreign language )
06:41 There are certain people that I felt I have made
06:46 a real difference in their life both in a physical aspect
06:51 and in being able to have the chance of witnessing to them.
06:57 Since I have been here probably the verse that comes to me
07:00 the most to me is 1 John 3:18 and that says,
07:05 "My dear brothers, let us not love in word
07:08 or in tongue but in deed and in truth"
07:11 and that's really what I have been talking
07:13 to my employees here about.
07:14 Let's love in truth each other our patients,
07:18 let's really share what God is like here.
07:23 Donna and I have learned to pray for our kids a lot.
07:26 We say Lord, we can't take care of these kids,
07:28 we can't provide for them, You are gonna
07:30 have to take care of them, I'll over-do in Your work.
07:33 You go to the point where you realize,
07:35 Lord, they are Yours they are not ours.
07:37 They never will be ours they have always been Yours.
07:40 And you let them go that doesn't mean you don't miss them,
07:44 that doesn't mean it doesn't hurt,
07:45 that doesn't mean you don't miss family times of them,
07:48 special occasions like Thanksgiving and Christmas
07:50 or you know Easter or things like that are family,
07:54 traditions that you realize that they are doing something
07:58 far more valuable that's eternal.
08:19 I'm delighted to welcome my friend and colleague
08:22 Dr. Cheryl Doss who is director of Institute of World Mission
08:25 for the Seventh-day Adventist church.
08:27 Cheryl, thanks so much for joining us.
08:29 Institute of World Mission,
08:31 briefly what is it, what does it do?
08:33 Its main responsibility is for the training
08:36 of the missionaries of the General Conference centers.
08:38 You still send missionaries?
08:39 Oh, yes. I know that question, that's very painful to me.
08:44 Some people don't realize it but yes, we do.
08:46 At least 100 families go out a year, often more than that
08:50 and there is probably between 715 to 1,000 at anyone--
08:54 missionaries at anyone time in the field.
08:57 Now why do they need training?
08:58 They don't just go out in faith and--
09:00 Yeah. Hopefully they do go out with faith,
09:03 but as you can imagine moving a family overseas
09:06 is a major adjustment time, major transition for families.
09:11 Most of them go as married couples
09:13 with children aged from tiny babies to teenagers
09:18 and sometimes several children, and this always quite an issue
09:22 just they are moving a family within a home country.
09:24 Not only taking them to a foreign country,
09:26 foreign foods, foreign-- a new language,
09:30 a new living environment and work and all the rest.
09:33 And it gets even more complex
09:34 when you think about how different each family is.
09:37 Well, that's a wonderful thing
09:39 about the General Conference Mission Services that it truly
09:43 does send missionaries from everywhere to everywhere.
09:46 The last mission institute we held in Brazil last month,
09:51 had 14 families from 12 different home countries.
09:55 Six different continents
09:56 who represented at that mission institute.
09:58 Different languages, they come with different skills,
10:01 of course they go out to do different types of jobs.
10:04 But most are highly qualified professionals
10:07 going to do our specialists type work where they go.
10:10 Doctors, dentists, church administrators,
10:13 teachers and professors and so agro workers and so on.
10:17 Can you introduce us to some of the missionary families?
10:21 Yes, I can, you know, there are so many
10:24 I hate to pick any one out. So I will just kind of take
10:27 a smattering from the last mission institute.
10:30 We had a family there, the Lichtenwalter family
10:34 who had spent 27 years
10:36 pastoring a church in Berrien Springs, Michigan.
10:38 And now, Larry is going out to be the theology dean
10:44 there at the school as they try to develop
10:45 their theology program at Middle East University.
10:48 So going to a Muslim context, moving with his wife
10:53 and leaving their children at home,
10:54 this is a major transition for a family.
10:56 Where is the university?
10:58 In Beirut, Lebanon.
11:01 Another family at the other end of the family spectrum
11:05 came with very small baby just four months old.
11:09 And they are serving in Colombia.
11:13 And they have another little boy, Vanston Archbold
11:19 and his wife Ketsia and they had been there for short time.
11:25 Actually, they came originally from Columbia
11:28 but immigrated to the U.S. and so having spent
11:31 many years in the U.S. now as young people growing up there,
11:36 they are going back to this country
11:38 to a rather mission post on an island off the coast.
11:42 And so this is another kind of adjustment.
11:45 Often times, missionaries find that returning to a home country
11:48 can be more difficult than the initial going out
11:51 into a host country. That's interesting.
11:54 We had families from Australia that are serving in the islands.
12:01 Families from Africa serving in other parts of Africa
12:06 and so it's a wonderful mix of people
12:09 that we put together at the Mission Institute.
12:11 Yeah, well, Cheryl, you are training for how long?
12:15 How long is their training?
12:16 It's a three week training program
12:18 and one of the things we do is,
12:21 we hope to kind of model in the institute
12:24 both the attitudes and the experiences
12:26 that people will face when they get out into the field.
12:29 Because it's not enough just to think about something
12:33 logically one must be able to
12:36 actually practice what one learns.
12:38 And so we ask the group to mix themselves up
12:42 by different nationalities, by different types of profession,
12:45 by work assignments and family age groups,
12:50 some experience overseas.
12:52 And then we set learning tasks. They set tables
12:55 and we set learning tasks for them to discuss together.
12:58 And I think one of the most beautiful things for me is
13:02 to watch these families from so many different places
13:05 come to really love and appreciate each other.
13:07 So little peace of heaven. At the last institute I had one,
13:12 one table there was a family from Norway going to Israel,
13:16 a family from Albania in Australia going to Fiji,
13:21 and a family from Zimbabwe serving in Tanzania.
13:25 Towards the end of the institute one of the woman at that tables
13:29 was with one of the other woman,
13:31 the African and one of the European woman
13:34 and they were sitting, walking along and
13:37 the European woman said to me, I would never believed you
13:41 if you told me that we would be best friends
13:43 at the end of three weeks. Is that right?
13:45 You know, so they can pray for each other,
13:47 they can support each other.
13:48 And I always say if you can learn to love somebody
13:51 from another culture while at Mission Institute
13:53 then probably you know at least it's possible
13:55 to do that when you get out there.
13:57 Yeah. Now do you ever have somebody come to training
14:02 and you decided well, you know, recommend, we actually
14:04 don't think that you are well suited for this assignment.
14:08 That's not really our responsibility, but we do
14:11 what we do at Mission Institute is try to empower people
14:15 for whatever assignment God has called them to.
14:17 We have a psychologist who comes to every mission institute
14:21 and interviews each family if there are needs,
14:24 particular family needs that they want to talk about with her
14:27 they can do that, they can raise the issues.
14:29 And we have seen families greatly blessed.
14:35 Marriages improved and so on during Mission Institute.
14:39 One of the journals I read the Fact Institute at the end,
14:43 the woman said, this institute has brought me closer to God,
14:47 than I ever thought possible. Fantastic.
14:49 Cheryl, thank you for you and your team
14:51 doing at the Institute of World Mission.
14:52 Thanks for joining us today. And thank you
14:54 to the missionaries who are willing to go.
14:56 Exactly And viewers at home, please pray for Cheryl
14:59 and her team in this very important work
15:01 and thank you for your continuing mission offerings
15:03 that make it possible
15:05 for missionaries to go out into the field
15:07 and don't forget to pray every day
15:10 for missionaries serving the Lord.
16:00 My guest is Dr. Rick McEdward,
16:02 who is the director of the Global Mission Study Centers
16:05 and works in the office of the Adventist Mission.
16:07 Welcome, Rick. Thanks, Gary.
16:08 Briefly describe the Global Mission Study Centers?
16:11 Well, there are six study centers,
16:14 these six study centers address understanding for Adventist,
16:18 the various world religions and also urban setting.
16:22 So there is different to all religions,
16:24 we really haven't done much in addressing our faith to,
16:27 so it's trying to help people understand
16:28 and be a positive witness.
16:30 Now, Rick,
16:32 when we look at the history of the Adventist church,
16:34 most new members have come from among anamist
16:38 or among from other Christian believers.
16:43 How well equipped are we,
16:44 I mean how well trained are we
16:46 to be able to talk to people from other religions?
16:49 Even in countries that are majority from another faith
16:53 honestly, we still focus our efforts on Christians,
16:57 Christian groups and we really haven't done much
17:01 in sharing our faith in a positive way
17:03 with these other groups.
17:05 What a challenge it is
17:08 because we are tend to use a message that is--
17:12 that is really geared for sharing with other Christians.
17:17 Right, now, somebody might be viewing this and saying,
17:19 well, this is all very interesting
17:20 but I never planned to travel overseas
17:22 that's not an issue for me.
17:24 Well, you know, the great part of that is
17:26 you don't have to go overseas
17:27 to find somebody from another religion.
17:31 If there are 37 million immigrants
17:34 even in the country of United States
17:37 there are 14 million
17:40 non-Englishspeaking households in North America.
17:44 There are three quarters of a million students
17:48 from other parts of the world who may speak English
17:51 but come from other religious backgrounds
17:53 so you don't have to look very far
17:55 to see that there is people from other walks of life
17:58 even our next neighbor and that's true of United States,
18:02 it's certainly trip to Canada, parts of Europe
18:05 any where, where people flock too for
18:07 both economy and education.
18:10 There is gonna be opportunities that we haven't taken.
18:12 And some of the statistics show that
18:15 people from other world religions feel that
18:19 Christians are in a different world to them
18:22 here in the Untied States.
18:23 They don't have any contact.
18:24 They don't have any friends with any Christians.
18:26 Yeah, it's amazing to think that
18:29 in places like Europe, United States,
18:31 that around 70 percent of those
18:34 from a Hindu background have no Christian friends.
18:38 Now, 65% of those from a Muslim background
18:41 don't know one other Christian person.
18:43 So I mean we are talking about a stat that are shaming to us.
18:46 Yeah, so we might meet them in a store
18:50 they may be cleaners at a laundry,
18:53 they may be driving a taxi, they may our dentist
18:56 but we don't make friends with them.
18:57 That's right, and I think that--that shows us
19:01 that we may be reluctant based on may be stereo types,
19:07 may be other reasons
19:08 but we don't know how to build those first few bridges.
19:11 Okay, so, one of the viewers says,
19:14 okay, I see the importance of this
19:16 I have a neighbor from a different religion,
19:19 I don't know where to start.
19:20 Well, the easy place is- where my family started
19:24 we have neighborhood that has a wide variety of people in it.
19:28 We are in a urban setting and we have neighbor from Kuwait,
19:32 we have neighbors from Taiwan, we have neighbors from Africa,
19:35 so we have a wide variety
19:37 and you know, my wife and kids they just said,
19:39 well, let's bake some bread, mom.
19:41 And they went holiday time or anytime and they delivered
19:45 loaf of bread to various people in the community.
19:48 And you are telling me just earlier that
19:49 how you made contact with your neighbors from another country.
19:52 Well, we just gotten back from a trip to Thailand.
19:54 I traveled there for my work and this particular trip
19:57 I took my family along.
19:59 While we were there we thought of our neighbors,
20:02 we picked up a few things that would be special.
20:04 We asked in Thailand, what would be special?
20:07 And when we come back we went pay them a visit.
20:10 And as we gave them just a few little bag of things
20:14 as they unpacked it I saw tears well up in the ladies eyes,
20:21 saying I haven't seen these things for 20 years.
20:24 These are special to me,
20:26 and we formed a special bond of friendship through that.
20:29 So Rick, what are some of the principles
20:31 that we should keep in mind when we are talking with people
20:34 when come from a different faith, tradition?
20:36 Well, you know, first of all
20:38 love covers a multitude of friends, right.
20:40 So I think we ought to practice
20:42 the gift of love and hospitality.
20:44 You know, inviting somebody to your house,
20:46 loving them in someway that's the obvious one.
20:49 Second is may be we don't understand,
20:51 but may be we can listen and learn.
20:53 If we try to tell before we accept,
20:58 before we even understand who people are.
21:01 Then we make the first mistake and that is
21:03 we are not willing to allow somebody to share their heart.
21:07 I think there is a third one and that is pray and pray
21:13 not only for them but pray for the right opportunity
21:17 for you to share of whatever witness now.
21:20 Whatever witness is complicated,
21:22 it's not so simple with just everybody
21:24 but you want to have the right timing
21:26 and you don't want to be preaching at people
21:28 you want to share with them.
21:30 So, you are talking about a testimony,
21:33 a personal testimony?
21:34 Actually I think a testimony of what God is doing in you lately
21:38 is one of the most powerful stories you can tell.
21:41 I like to use that because people often are looking
21:45 for an answer for something in their lives
21:47 and if you say well, God did this for me,
21:49 they might say well, tell me about your God.
21:52 Now, not everybody will say that
21:53 but there is a chance to build that friendship that way.
21:56 And you can't argue with somebody's experience
21:59 if you talk at the level of concept that's one thing
22:01 but when you share your experience that's true for you.
22:04 Its absolutely true and you know
22:07 what I find is that lot of people will say
22:11 they are open to praying, after you share you experience
22:13 because they have needs in their lives too.
22:16 Exactly. Rick, thanks so much for sharing with us today.
22:19 And viewers at home, God may be calling you to make,
22:24 take that step of contact with some of your neighbors,
22:27 people that you meet everyday.
22:28 It might be in your street, it may be at school,
22:31 it may be work whatever it is take time to pray and say Lord,
22:36 how can I be Your instrument in this situation.
22:40 How can I stop from this keeping to myself
22:43 and build a bridge of love to these people?
22:45 Pray please for the Global Mission Study Centers
22:47 they have a tremendously challenging task
22:50 to find ways, methods, models for us
22:53 to be more effective in our mission
22:55 in sharing with our brothers and sisters around the world.
23:31 Each day after classes,
23:33 students at Lasalgaon Seventh-day Adventist school
23:36 carry out assigned duties around the campus.
23:55 This work program can be found
23:57 at Seventh-day Adventist schools across India.
24:02 Ever since we started the school system
24:04 we introduced the work program.
24:07 And there are students would refuse to do
24:09 certain kinds of manual work.
24:12 Agriculture, yes fine-- I wouldn't mind being
24:16 involved in growing plants, growing vegetables.
24:20 That's a very dignified work
24:22 but to sweep the hostel, clean the toilet,
24:27 do some other kind of work no, no that's not mine.
24:31 That's menial.
24:32 That's not for my status in the community.
24:36 So this has been the division, you know,
24:40 but the Adventist system has somehow
24:42 broken this in our schools.
24:45 Work, any work is God's gift to us.
24:49 God has given us gift of work.
24:53 Take care of the earth. Be stewards of the Earth.
24:57 So that philosophy that whatever you do
25:00 you are a steward of something.
25:02 Whenever a student gets goes through that manual labor
25:06 he becomes more mature, more responsible,
25:09 and ready to take on the world when he leaves the school.
25:14 This focus on strong work ethic has made Lasalgaon School
25:18 an attractive place for parents to send their children.
25:22 The shortcoming of this school is
25:24 we have insufficient classrooms.
25:27 We have very big playground, but we don't have science labs,
25:32 we don't have physics, chemistry and biology separate labs
25:37 which is a essential part of a growing school.
25:42 In the early years of schooling
25:44 if a parent likes to look at value education,
25:49 will my boy, will my girl
25:51 turnout to be the very finest in character?
25:54 When it comes to character
25:55 Adventist education are the best.
25:58 But then when they come to a higher level of learning
26:01 late in high school, people are looking
26:04 for excellence in academic learning.
26:11 Lasalgaon currently has classroom facilities
26:13 for grades one through ten.
26:16 The school needs to build more classrooms
26:17 to be able to accommodate grades 11 and 12.
26:21 If this school opens 11 and 12
26:24 we would like to study here only
26:26 because outside we don't get chance to go for
26:28 church and other activities as we do here.
26:33 Because of your financial support
26:34 of the world budget and mission offerings,
26:37 a new classroom block
26:38 including new physics, chemistry and biology labs,
26:42 will be constructed on the Lasalgaon school campus.
26:45 Your offerings are building more than classrooms.
26:48 They are building a future for these children
26:51 for mission in India.
26:55 Thank you for your support of the mission
26:57 of the Seventh-day Adventist Church.
26:59 To find out more please visit adventistmission.org.
27:09 Every three months Adventist Mission produces
27:12 an inspiring collection of video mission stories
27:16 and reports for the Adventist Mission DVD.
27:19 If you live in North America and you'd like to receive
27:21 a free sample copy of the Adventist Mission DVD
27:25 then call or visit our website and ask for a sample 'AM DVD'
27:31 or ask for offer number 303.
27:34 Please remember to clearly state your name,
27:37 your full address and be sure to mention
27:39 the Adventist Mission DVD or offer 303.
27:44 For the office of Adventist Mission,
27:46 I'm Gary Krause and I hope you can join me next time,
27:48 right here on "Global Mission Snapshots."


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