Global Mission Snapshots

Epic Church & Hope For Cities

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

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Participants: Gary Krause (Host), Andres Flores, Cindy Chamberlin

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00:01 A pastor tackling mission in one of the Americas biggest cities
00:04 and Pastor Mike Ryan
00:06 talking about the challenge of urban mission,
00:09 coming up next on Global Mission Snapshots.
00:23 Just before He went up to heaven Jesus gave us a command.
00:29 He gave us a mission.
00:32 Jesus said "Go, go unto all the world,
00:36 telling them of His love." This is our mission.
00:41 This is our "Global Mission."
00:48 Hello and thanks for joining us on Global Mission Snapshots.
00:51 I'm Gary Krause.
00:53 Every week on Global Mission Snapshots,
00:55 we look at what's happening
00:56 in frontline Adventist Mission work around the world.
01:00 One of our biggest global mission challenges
01:03 is finding ways to reach the growing masses of people
01:06 in the big cities of the world.
01:09 On today's program we'll be talking
01:10 with Andres Flores a pastor and church planter
01:14 who has taken on the challenge of urban mission
01:16 in the heart of Chicago.
01:18 And he will be joined by Cindy Chamberlin,
01:21 communication director
01:22 for the Adventist church in Illinois.
01:25 And will also be talking with Mike Ryan
01:27 about the Adventist churches mission to the cities plan.
01:30 What we will be happening over the next few years?
01:33 But first let's watch a video that we made a few years ago
01:36 that highlights some of these challenging urban areas.
01:49 From the bustling harbor in Sydney
01:51 to remote tropical lagoons,
01:53 from busy cities streets to jungle landing strips,
01:57 from modern medical facilities to village clinics.
02:00 Welcome, to the South Pacific Division.
02:09 The South Pacific Division of the Seventh-day Adventist church
02:11 includes Australia, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea
02:16 and the Islands of the Pacific south of the equator.
02:19 Well small in-terms of Adventist membership
02:22 the south pacific division
02:23 occupies a large geographical area.
02:27 The majority of Adventist members are scattered
02:29 across 1000s of pacific islands
02:32 and 20 million square miles of ocean.
02:35 Here are islands such Nauru, Fiji, Samoa,
02:39 Solomon Islands, Tonga, Tuvalu and Vanuatu.
02:49 Over the years Adventist missionaries
02:51 have answered the call to mission to the islands.
02:54 Gary Krause, director of Adventist mission
02:57 talked with some of these missionaries
02:59 about their experiences.
03:01 One of these missionaries is Fran Newman,
03:03 a missionary nurse who went to Atoifi hospital
03:06 in the Solomon Islands in 1969.
03:10 It was only a little hospital
03:11 when compared with what it is now.
03:14 It was a 90 bed hospitals but when I did my monthly return,
03:17 we usually had an average more than a 100 patients a day.
03:21 I'm sure.
03:22 If we didn't turn anyone away with that paddlewheel canoe
03:24 for several days to get there.
03:28 They were happy to sleep wherever they could.
03:30 Mrs. Newman remembers meeting an old friend
03:33 for the first time while in the Solomon Islands.
03:36 Because probably one of the most exciting things that I had
03:39 while I was--experiences that I had while I was there.
03:41 I went up to the hospital one morning
03:44 and then I saw a name of a patient
03:47 that had been admitted over night.
03:49 His name was Danny Wanasuka.
03:51 And when I had been training at the San,
03:53 I had a pen pal at Betikama School by that name.
03:58 And it turned that it was my pen pal.
04:00 What a small world. After all though she is.
04:03 Isn't that amazing?
04:04 Yes, and to we went up to his village
04:06 which brought up in the hills
04:07 and they had been people coming down.
04:10 But I guess because there were no roads on Malaita
04:14 it was either walk or peddle your canoe to get there.
04:19 Travel on the islands was a bit tricky
04:21 sometimes as Mrs. Newman can tell.
04:24 And that's where I was taught to peddle a dugout canoe.
04:27 Okay, which is a handy skill to have.
04:30 Well, yes, because I was all right in the canoe
04:33 as long as I didn't breathe, as soon as breath I fell out
04:35 so I gave the children at the school a lot of laughter.
04:40 Oh, sure you did. And they're ready to laugh too.
04:44 Another of those missionaries to the south pacific islands
04:48 Bert Godfrey and his family,
04:50 went to the Solomon Islands in 1964.
04:53 We had a little boat or at least
04:57 we were supposed to and we got there.
04:58 It was out of commission for a while and we only had canoes.
05:01 And I had a better two months old daughter
05:06 which was a little nervy, but anyway
05:09 we got the old Keema back
05:11 and we were able to travel around
05:13 in the little ship called the Keema.
05:16 Now did you go to the Solomon's with the baby?
05:19 She was just a few days old when we left.
05:24 Weeks old I suppose be better yes.
05:26 Now that was a big decision with a newborn child. It was.
05:31 The medical care wouldn't exactly be
05:33 what we might wish for.
05:35 We were many hours away from the nearest medical help.
05:40 And I must confess that I had an awful shock
05:43 when I walked on the island
05:44 I walked up to the big school there
05:47 and there was a plaque at the entrance to the school
05:49 that told the story of a missionary
05:51 who came out with his young wife and she was buried there.
05:56 And I thought what I've done.
05:58 But the Lord was good to us.
06:00 And, yes, we had no problems whatever.
06:02 Everything went very, very well.
06:05 Mrs. Lynn Anderson went to Papua New Guinea 1968
06:10 serving first at Togoba leprosy hospital
06:13 and then working on a floating clinic
06:15 traveling part of the 700 miles Sepik River.
06:20 So we spent to achieve two-- two and half years
06:23 just doing clinics up and down the river
06:26 as far as we could in day trips.
06:30 We did at once stage two clinics the full 200 miles of the river
06:34 which we virtually did later on the path founder
06:38 that was our section of the river
06:40 because the Sepik River is 700 miles
06:42 and that was just phenomenal.
06:45 Doing clinics for the children all under five
06:49 for immunizations, then dealing with all the pregnant mothers
06:52 up and down the river.
06:54 As well as that we did the all the schools on the river
06:57 and some of them had 200 students
07:01 and there were a lot of schools.
07:03 Some very big villages and would take us
07:06 anyway from six hours to do a clinic.
07:10 So that was quite an experience.
07:13 We actually did the whole rive
07:15 and actually lived in the villages
07:17 all that section of the river,
07:18 I mean and lived in the villages.
07:21 At one stage indeed I have a period of three months
07:24 so that we could give them the immunization.
07:27 I guess one of the things that I can say
07:31 about was when I had a child
07:34 where they are actually lost, he actually died.
07:37 And when I went back into the clinics
07:38 the people said to me the women's said.
07:41 We never thought why woman's babies ever die.
07:45 And that brought the woman in me much closer.
07:52 Had the first one when I was on the Sepik
07:54 she went out for her first clinic
07:55 when she was two weeks old. And she joined.
07:59 And she was with me for the clinics every time
08:02 until she was back to
08:04 and then when we went back to talk about.
08:07 Now looking back on your mission service any regrets?
08:11 No, no nothing at all. But I did still do medical work.
08:15 I where ever I went I was always in charge
08:18 of the children's Sabbath schools.
08:21 And that was a big thing in my experience
08:24 because children would come some of them out 12, 13, 14
08:31 and you run this Sabbath school not Adventist
08:33 but they just enjoyed it.
08:35 And I just hope some of that has made
08:36 a difference in some of their lives.
08:39 Thanks to the love and dedication
08:41 of missionaries like these.
08:42 The foundations where laid for a church
08:44 that would grow rapidly on the islands.
08:47 Yet there are still mission challenges here.
08:50 There are still many areas that are remote
08:53 where medical care and spiritual resources are scarce.
08:57 For years, the Adventist church has operated clinics
09:00 in these remote villages.
09:02 As time passed the facilities grew old
09:05 and they were ill equipped.
09:07 In 2007, the Adventist church in the South Pacific
09:10 launched Adapt a Clinic.
09:12 A program to team each Adventist church
09:15 in Australia and New Zealand with one of the regions clinics
09:19 which range from bush huts to modern styled buildings.
09:23 Now they're looking at building some new clinics
09:25 and villages that are in need of some type of medical care.
09:29 Today, mission planes are helping in ferry people
09:32 and resources to these remote areas.
09:35 Thanks impart to worldwide support
09:37 of the Thirteenth Sabbath offerings several years ago.
09:41 These planes have a tremendous impact
09:43 on the lives of the people living in the areas they serve.
09:46 Yet the mission challenge remains,
09:49 one of the major challenges is reaching secular
09:51 and post modern people
09:53 in the major cities of the region
09:55 including the secular and post modern people
09:58 of Australia and New Zealand.
10:00 And even though I'm back here in Australia I think our church,
10:04 we got a mission field right here in Australia.
10:06 And on place that I still work outside the church
10:10 and I can witness to the people that I work with
10:13 and I hope I'll do the right thing.
10:15 Please pray for mission in the South Pacific division
10:19 and thank you for your support of the mission offerings.
10:35 More than a 100 years ago Adventist prophet Ellen White
10:38 said that the Seventh-day Adventist church
10:40 had neglected the cities.
10:42 I wonder what she would say today.
10:44 Working in the cities in mission can be very, very challenging
10:48 and I'm delighted that Andres and Cindy can join me today.
10:52 Andres, you're planting a church in Chicago.
10:56 And Cindy, you represent the conference
10:59 which is the organization that oversees
11:01 churches in the Illinois area.
11:04 First up, just describe briefly,
11:06 Andres, what is your mission in Chicago?
11:10 Our mission is to bring the presence of Jesus
11:14 to reveal Jesus in the city of Chicago.
11:17 His personality, His love, His passion for the urban area
11:23 for especially particularly for young adults
11:25 in the demographics between 18-29 years old.
11:29 And bring His message, His love in practical
11:32 and relevant way for young adults post modern,
11:35 hipsters and the like. Wonderful.
11:38 Cindy, you recently visited this project
11:42 tell us what did you find.
11:44 Well, when I visited I went downtown Chicago
11:49 and I realized instantly how valuable this project was.
11:54 Because, we are the only Adventist presence in that area.
12:01 Without our presence there would be no representation
12:06 from our church in that area.
12:08 Now when did this project start?
12:11 The open house officially was--
12:14 The May of 2012.
12:17 2012 and so relatively new. Oh, yeah.
12:21 When you arrived there, Andres,
12:24 I guess you studied the neighborhood
12:25 to try to understand.
12:27 Well, what sort of people are you connecting with?
12:30 We're connecting with all sorts of people.
12:33 Mainly young adults so again from 18-29
12:36 that's our main demographic
12:38 but we're reaching our objective is to reach
12:41 to the local dwellers in the area of Wicker Park.
12:46 Wicker Park is our neighborhood known--
12:50 it's very artistic. Highly interested in music.
12:54 Post modern young professionals.
12:57 So these are the people who are trying to reach
13:00 and we are seeing people coming to our church
13:04 as a result of some of the activities
13:05 we are doing in the community as well. Wonderful.
13:08 Now, Cindy, when you visited
13:10 I guess everybody was wearing suit and ties.
13:14 No it helps for the audience to remember this
13:17 as a completely unchurched area.
13:21 Completely unchurched.
13:24 These are people that would never had go
13:26 into a traditional church.
13:29 So these are people who come from backgrounds of unbelief
13:33 or people who'd never even thought about God before
13:37 in a serious way and so that they're coming
13:39 into Christian environment for the first time.
13:43 So, Cindy, when you visited
13:45 did you get to meet any of the people?
13:47 Yes. I actually, met many of the people.
13:51 One was even an ex-gang member
13:54 and that had been his particular territory
13:56 and now he is reclaiming at as a Christian
13:59 from a whole different worldview.
14:01 Well, how did you meet him, Andres?
14:04 He was invited by one of the core group members.
14:07 So we have a core group-- a core team
14:10 those are the missionaries
14:12 that help the church plan get started. Wow.
14:15 So he was invited and now he is invited more friends
14:19 around his age and interest
14:22 and they're now coming to Jesus as well.
14:24 So let me illustrate, he is a gang member
14:27 and he gets invited into
14:29 a Christian environment and he liked it.
14:33 Is that what happened?
14:34 I mean, how did he stayed,
14:35 I mean didn't-- why didn't' he say
14:36 all this is just rubbish and go?
14:37 I mean what happened?
14:39 Well, you know, when people like this are absorb,
14:42 assimilated because of the relationships,
14:46 because of love.
14:47 Because of their really see in Jesus
14:48 being taught in a beautiful way.
14:53 They just have this passion to stay there
14:55 and bring more people to Jesus Christ as well.
14:59 Cindy, you are a communication director
15:01 and you work with administrators
15:03 who have to make decisions about where we put pastors
15:07 and how do we keep church members involved.
15:09 How do we keep them happy?
15:11 Does this sort of project come in for some criticism?
15:14 It certainly does.
15:16 And let me say one other thing that I saw while was there.
15:20 I saw--many of our 18 to 22 year old
15:26 involved active and happy.
15:28 Many are coming even from Andrews University
15:32 to support pastor Andres in his project.
15:34 They are coming weekly.
15:36 This is an Adventist university what about two hours away.
15:38 Two hours away from his church plant in Epic.
15:42 And I see the church studies and you do too
15:46 where our youth are leaving at like at 9 to 10 ratio.
15:51 So that's about 90 percentage of our youth
15:53 that re just exiting our doors and never coming back.
15:57 So this speaks volumes that they're helping
16:01 lead many of our core members and helping lead
16:04 and very interested in this church
16:06 and to see that many of our young people in one spot
16:10 I had forgotten how that even looked.
16:13 That is just miraculous.
16:15 And it gives them certainly vision as well.
16:18 The conference is very much on board
16:20 and very supportive of this project
16:22 and trying to give this baby the CPR it needs. Fantastic.
16:28 Andres, Cindy, thank you so much for joining us
16:31 and telling us about this exciting story.
16:33 And to our viewers at home,
16:35 urban mission there is no easy formula.
16:38 It can be messy, it can be complicated,
16:40 it can be difficult.
16:42 And so often we may see things
16:43 that we do differently
16:45 but rather than sitting back and criticizing we need to pray.
16:48 We need pray. We need to encourage.
16:50 We need to support because men and women,
16:53 boys and girls lives are being touched
16:55 for eternity in urban areas
16:58 through the ministry of people
16:59 such as Pastor Andres and his team.
17:47 Urban mission is one of the major challenges
17:49 facing global mission today.
17:51 To talk with me about this is Elder Mike Ryan
17:53 who was the first director of Global Mission
17:56 and is now the vice president
17:58 for the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventist.
18:00 Mike, welcome. Yeah it's good to be here.
18:03 In the good old days it used to be you
18:05 asking me the questions
18:06 and I'm very happy today to be asking you questions.
18:09 Yeah, well, I'm happy to be seated on this side
18:13 and I don't know that I know the answers.
18:15 But I'm glad to talk with you. Okay.
18:17 Urban mission, the challenge of reaching
18:19 the cities was something that was in the radar
18:24 of global mission right from the start.
18:25 How did that happened? It certainly was.
18:27 I remember back in 1988 and 89
18:30 when global mission was being planned
18:33 at meetings down at Cohutta Springs, Georgia.
18:37 And in those early discussions
18:39 we met there each year for a week
18:41 putting this program together.
18:43 Cities, was part of that just discussion
18:45 from the very beginning and at that point
18:46 we were looking into the future
18:49 when we knew the day would come
18:51 when most people would live in big cities.
18:54 Well, now of course that date has come and gone
18:56 and now you have about 52, 53 percent
18:59 of the world population
19:01 living in cities greater than a million.
19:03 Wow. Now Mike the world church is focusing on urban mission.
19:08 It seems to be a priority of administration.
19:11 What are the plans?
19:12 Yeah, of course, that again has its home in Adventist mission.
19:16 And so I think they still carry the portfolio in that
19:19 but obviously, you know, its something
19:23 that in our history we have struggled with.
19:27 If you compare the ratio of Adventist
19:30 to population in cities it's a much bigger challenge
19:34 than if you compare the population
19:36 and Adventist that ration outside the cities.
19:40 And so we know that we face this challenge and so
19:46 and looking at that we need to put a plan together
19:51 that the world church understands.
19:53 And of course, and you know sometimes
19:57 that's a kind of difficult thing to do
19:59 but very simply put the plan that it has been put together
20:06 is that the General Conference has selected one city
20:11 which is New York City in which we try to provide
20:16 a model for the world church on how to work in cities.
20:21 And then we have asked each division
20:24 and that's 13 of them.
20:26 And the one attached union to select the city.
20:31 So that would be 14.
20:33 And then we have asked each union to select the city.
20:37 Well, that's about a 106
20:39 and then we have asked each conference well that's 528.
20:44 So when you look at the entire formula
20:49 between now and the year 2015
20:53 we are hoping to have
20:55 a comprehensive evangelism program
20:58 running in almost the 650 cities around the world.
21:02 And so that's a huge challenge.
21:04 And so, you know, if that's what lies before us.
21:10 Now, Mike, you and I have been working on a project
21:14 called Centers of Influence based on Ellen White's counsel.
21:18 And in New York City we're planning
21:19 to have four of these established very soon.
21:22 Describe for us what we envisage
21:24 when we are talking about life help centers
21:26 or Centers of Influence.
21:27 Okay, some of the--
21:30 some of the challenge in cities is speaking a language
21:34 and doing things that actually identify with people.
21:38 And if you read the counsel given to us by Ellen White
21:46 and also some of the very basic principles of the Bible
21:50 it really instructs us that we need to connect
21:53 with the community and be decent people.
21:56 To try to make a difference in the community.
21:58 A life hope center is a center that will operate
22:02 and out of that center it's envisioned
22:04 that there will be many health programs
22:06 that will be offered to the community.
22:09 Language programs, literacy programs,
22:12 community service type programs--
22:16 and as these programs
22:20 specifically address needs in the community,
22:24 people will become interested.
22:26 They will come and they will attend these
22:27 and it will make a difference in their lives.
22:30 And I feel that these life hope centers will be a way
22:36 of expanding the pool of people
22:41 who really don't even know Jesus.
22:43 And to have them take a look and go,
22:45 oh, this is what Christianity is about
22:48 and become interested actually in the message of the Bible.
22:54 And of course, that's our guide to live by
22:56 it is the message of the Bible
22:57 and that's what we tried to interest people
22:58 because of course the man of that book is Jesus.
23:02 And so that's the purpose of these life hope centers.
23:05 Now Ellen White said that we should have dozens of these
23:09 in not huge centers but smaller centers.
23:12 What is the result that we want to see
23:14 from centers of influence?
23:16 Well, obviously we want to bridge from these activities
23:22 to introducing people to Jesus and the biblical truths.
23:26 There is no question that bridges
23:28 we want to make sure that that is build.
23:30 And that anyone that would be
23:35 a possibility of sharing Christ with
23:38 we don't want to pass that opportunity by.
23:40 Fantastic, Elder Ryan,
23:41 and thank you for joining us today. It's privilege.
23:43 Viewers at home Elder Ryan has outlined
23:46 a comprehensive urban mission plan
23:49 reaching people where they're at.
23:51 Not expecting them to come to us
23:52 but finding ways that we can go to them
23:55 and show the love of Jesus in very practical ways
23:58 showing the love that can only come from Jesus Christ
24:01 and then bidding them to follow Him.
24:06 Its early morning before dawn.
24:08 The Adventist aviation plane is parked in the hangar.
24:12 Daniel our pilot arrives and gets the aircraft ready
24:15 for its first mission today.
24:17 Fasten your seatbelts as we taxi to the runway.
24:20 This is another day of mission service.
24:26 We're flying northeast over Papua New Guinea
24:29 at an altitude of 10,000 feet.
24:31 It's fairly warm in the plane
24:33 and it's a gorgeous morning out the window.
24:36 Papua New Guinea is one of the most
24:38 culturally diverse places on earth
24:41 with pristine teaming jungles, jagged mountains,
24:46 deep valleys and turbulent rivers.
24:49 It's one of the least developed
24:51 and most traditional countries on this planet
24:54 where people live much as they have for thousands of years.
24:57 And we're on our way to a remote place
25:00 in the highlands of New Guinea to visit a small village.
25:07 Look down there it is.
25:08 We're approaching our first destination.
25:11 The villagers are always happy to see us.
25:14 These two children even made modeler planes
25:16 as a sing of admiration for the aviation service.
25:20 The cargo is quickly unloaded
25:22 and we're off to our next appointment.
25:28 The Seventh-day Adventist plane
25:29 travels the local towns and villages
25:31 where it is very hard to reach with food,
25:34 supplies and medicines for the clinics.
25:37 By plane we can cover distances in an hour
25:40 where it would have taken weeks in the past.
25:43 And for some villages it's the only way in
25:46 as they are no roads.
25:48 On our next step we'll surprise the people
25:51 with a very unique guest.
25:52 A lawnmower it may seem a trivial tool
25:55 but to the local people it will provide a way
25:58 to maintain their surroundings, gardens, plantations,
26:02 and even a clear runway for the plane.
26:05 They seem very excited with the new guest.
26:07 And after a simple demonstration
26:09 they're equipped to continue the work.
26:14 On our last leg of our trip.
26:15 We will pick up bags of crops.
26:18 The airplane will transport the merchandise to the city
26:21 and bring back means to provide for this community survival.
26:29 Your mission offering supports projects
26:31 like these every day and it helps thousands of people
26:35 to get connected with Seventh-day Adventist church
26:37 and experience first hand the love of God.
26:41 Please pray and continue to support Adventist Mission.
26:53 If you're watching this program chances are you enjoy stories
26:57 of global mission pioneers missionaries and mission.
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27:30 Well that's it for today program
27:31 and I hope you have been inspired
27:33 and challenged by what you've seen.
27:36 From the countries of Asia and Africa
27:38 to the cities of North America
27:40 God's mission work is still moving forward.
27:43 So on behalf of Adventist missionaries
27:45 and global mission pioneers and volunteers
27:47 serving all around the world,
27:50 thank you for your continuing prayers
27:52 and financial support for frontline mission.
27:55 Thank you, for joining us on Global Mission Snapshots today.
27:59 Until next time I'm Gary Krause. God bless.


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