Global Mission Snapshots

Asia & South Africa

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

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Participants: Gary Krause (Host), Myron Iseminger, Laurie Falvo

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Program Code: GMS000014


00:01 Is the mission spirit genetic?
00:03 Perhaps not, but it is possible
00:05 to pass that spirit on to our children.
00:08 Today, we will meet one Adventist family
00:10 that seems to have the mission spirit in the genes.
00:18 Just before He went up to heaven,
00:20 Jesus gave us a command.
00:23 He gave us a mission. Jesus said, Go.
00:28 Go unto all the world, telling them of His love.
00:33 This is our mission. This is our "Global Mission."
00:42 Hello I'm Gary Krause
00:44 and welcome to "Global Mission Snapshots."
00:46 On today's program we will be meeting Myron Iseminger,
00:50 undersecretary of Seventh-day Adventist church.
00:53 Myron and his family served as missionaries
00:55 in the Middle East and most recently in Asia.
00:59 We will also talk with Laurie Falvo
01:01 about Global Mission in South Africa.
01:04 If you receive Global Mission publications
01:06 which you should, you will see the results
01:08 of some of Laurie's work every month.
01:11 But first up, let's meet a family
01:13 with the spirit of mission in their blood.
01:23 As a physician as you are trained
01:26 your primary goal in training is
01:28 to take good medical care of people to make sure
01:31 that their health is cared for in a proper way.
01:35 But as time has gone by I realized that
01:38 that's really not the primary issue
01:41 that my primary goal is to lead people to Jesus
01:45 and to know Him.
01:46 And so I began to see medical practice
01:50 as a tool to lead people to Jesus.
01:53 And so I tried to focus on
01:56 somehow using my medical practice
01:59 not as-- only as a tool
02:01 to help people have a healthier life
02:02 and to recover from disease
02:04 but even more importantly to come to know
02:07 the one who can provide eternal life.
02:11 Greg, our oldest he has always wanted to be a physician.
02:15 He has ended up being trained as a surgeon
02:17 and served overseas in many different places,
02:19 most recently in Cameroon.
02:28 I'd say it was probably somewhere in high school
02:30 that I decided that I really wanted to be a missionary
02:35 and specifically a physician.
02:41 I guess it was in medical school in Loma Linda,
02:43 where it was really solidified and I choose to be
02:46 part of the Deferred Mission Appointee Program.
02:54 I did three years of residence--
02:55 three and half years of residency
02:56 in family practice training
02:58 and haven't seen anything here
03:01 that I ever saw in family practice training.
03:05 As a missionary my goal is too pronged,
03:08 I mean of course I'm a physician
03:10 so I want an aspect
03:11 I want to reach their physical needs
03:14 but more importantly
03:16 we need to reach their spiritual needs.
03:18 And there are certain people at the hospital
03:21 that we've been able to minister to
03:23 and we have seen people that have had tetanus
03:26 who have been sick in hospital for many weeks
03:31 and then for a long recovery period after that.
03:34 And with time and praying every single day with them,
03:38 they have come to know Jesus and give their heart to God
03:41 and I think that's the most encouragement
03:44 is individual lives that have been changed.
03:54 Cristy, our middle daughter also wanted to be a physician
03:57 since she was young
03:59 and served in Malamulo Hospital in Malawi.
04:14 I love the chance to come to a place
04:18 and care for people who no one out there really caring for.
04:24 I find that intensely satisfying and I think that's why
04:29 I've always wanted to do this.
04:30 If you stop working at home,
04:33 your patients get upset and they go see someone else.
04:35 Here people die and I think that's what
04:38 I find truly gratifying about being here.
04:43 I feel like it touches into what Jesus talked about
04:45 when He saw the multitudes and He had compassion on them.
04:49 I think that's really what it comes on too for me.
04:53 We always think of blessings as being safe
04:55 or happy or things like that.
04:58 But, I think you can be blessed by loneliness
05:00 and by being homesick.
05:02 I think God Jesus will bless you in a different way
05:05 and by being here I'm getting to be molded by God
05:10 and you don't often get to see that very clearly in your life.
05:17 The Heather our youngest has taken a different track.
05:21 She really was not interested in medicine,
05:23 which was fine with us, so she trained as a teacher
05:26 and taught elementary school for many years
05:29 and now is married to a pastor and she and her husband
05:33 are pastoring four churches in Kansas
05:37 and I guess I see that,
05:38 she is just as much a missionary as our other children
05:41 because she is there helping people
05:43 spreading the gospel just in a different form.
05:46 I mean that is God's mission to go over
05:49 and help people wherever we are.
05:51 Whether we are here in the US
05:52 or whether we are out of the US
05:54 go and help people and teach them about the Lord
05:57 as well as helping their physical well beings.
06:08 There are certain people that I felt
06:12 I have made a real difference in their life
06:17 both in a physical aspect and in being able to have
06:21 the chance of witnessing to them.
06:24 Since I have been here
06:25 probably the verse that come to me
06:27 the most to me is 1 John 3:18
06:30 and that says, "My dear brothers,
06:33 let us not love in word or in tongue
06:36 but in deed and in truth" and that's really
06:39 what I have been talking to my employees here about.
06:42 Let's love in truth each other our patients,
06:45 let's really show what God is like here.
06:50 Donna and I have learned to pray for our kids a lot
06:53 and say Lord, we can't take care of these kids,
06:55 we can't provide for them,
06:56 You are gonna have to take care of them
06:58 I'll overdo in Your work.
07:00 You go to the point where you realize Lord,
07:02 they are Yours they are not ours.
07:04 They never will be ours they have always been Yours.
07:07 And You let them go,
07:09 that doesn't mean you don't miss them,
07:10 that doesn't mean it doesn't hurt,
07:12 that doesn't mean you don't miss family times with them
07:15 special occasions like Thanksgiving
07:16 and Christmas or you know Easter
07:19 or things like that are family traditions
07:21 but you realize that they are doing
07:24 something far more valuable that's eternal.
07:45 I'm happy to welcome my colleague
07:47 and friend Pastor Myron Iseminger
07:50 who is the undersecretary for the World Church.
07:53 Now, Myron, that means that you give leadership
07:56 to the mission program over the church in many ways
08:00 but you don't just sit at the desk thinking about policy.
08:04 You have actually experienced mission service
08:06 and it goes a long way back.
08:08 When did you first remember being interested in mission?
08:13 Well, Gary, I grew up in a Christian home
08:15 and I remember I love to read mission stories.
08:19 And I had never really thought that I would go as a missionary
08:24 until my oldest sister spent a year as a volunteer
08:27 in Japan teaching English.
08:29 And it was during that year
08:31 I saw what a difference it made in her life
08:34 that I vow that I was going to do the same thing.
08:38 So I took a year out of my university experience
08:42 and went to a part of the world
08:43 that I had always been interested in
08:46 actually I was living in Jerusalem.
08:48 Oh, wow. What did you do there?
08:51 We also had an English language school
08:53 there at that time.
08:54 It was in east Jerusalem
08:55 so I was mostly teaching Palestinian students
08:59 and during that year for the first time
09:02 I put myself in their place. Right.
09:06 And I thought, wow how would my life be different
09:09 if I had been born into their home?
09:13 Would I--would anyone have told me about Jesus?
09:17 Would I have had the peace and happiness
09:20 that came from being a Christian?
09:22 And after that year I went back committed
09:25 to wanting to go for a longer mission service.
09:29 Wow, so you were like just a teenager back then? Right.
09:33 So, what was the next step?
09:35 Well, as I was dating my wife we talked about mission service
09:42 and she also was willing to go.
09:44 She had never been out of her home country
09:47 here in the US.
09:48 But we had an opportunity after our daughter was born.
09:54 She was a couple of years old and we got to go back
09:57 to the Middle East this time to Egypt.
09:59 Now, that's a fascinating country.
10:02 It is, it's-- the history is rich,
10:05 the people we fell in love with the people,
10:08 the food but as far as Christianity
10:13 and mission, it's a little more difficult country to work in.
10:19 Now that's an understatement.
10:21 The Adventist Church has been present in Egypt
10:23 I guess for more than 100 years now
10:27 but what are the main challenges we face in Egypt?
10:31 Well, officially the country is more open
10:36 than many in the Middle East
10:38 but of course there is still the distinction.
10:41 If you are born a Christian, you can remain a Christian.
10:45 If you are born into the predominant religion
10:47 of that area then it's expected
10:50 that you will remain so.
10:52 Right and to be an Egyptian
10:53 is to remain in that religion. Right.
10:55 So what did you do when you were in Egypt?
10:58 Well, I worked for our church office
11:01 there in administration treasury
11:05 and so I didn't have a lot of it,
11:07 time to spend in the frontlines as we would say
11:12 as in some other areas of the world.
11:14 But we spent a lot of time getting acquainted
11:18 with the people there.
11:21 You know, Mohammad our vegetable man
11:24 we became good friends with
11:26 and they were just so many instances
11:29 where we could relate on a personal basis with people.
11:32 Great, so from Egypt what was the next stage?
11:36 Well, there is one thing that I want to share about Egypt
11:41 and that was that we didn't see a lot of results
11:45 from our work and it's easy to get discouraged.
11:48 We have a lot of missionaries
11:49 that are working in hard areas like that.
11:52 But it was actually just a few months ago
11:54 when I got a report that really encouraged me
11:57 about that time we had spent.
11:59 One of my colleagues was traveling in Europe
12:02 and ran into a family
12:04 that I had got acquainted with during that time in Egypt.
12:08 The young man was raised in a home
12:12 where his mother was Christian
12:15 and his father was of another faith.
12:18 And so he struggled what he should do.
12:22 His mother came to our church I got acquainted with him
12:26 and you know we studied together
12:28 he ask a lot of questions I answered his questions
12:31 but we lost contact over the years.
12:34 And it was just this year that I found out
12:36 through his mother telling the colleague of mine
12:39 that he had decided to make a stand for Christ
12:44 and is now a faithful practicing Christian.
12:47 Now, that's encouraging.
12:49 So, from Egypt you went to where?
12:52 We came back to the US by the end
12:55 we had a couple of kids and for their schooling.
12:58 We worked here for a few years
12:59 but we still had that burning desire to go out
13:02 and so we did have an opportunity again
13:04 to go this time to Asia.
13:06 And we enjoyed our time there again.
13:10 It's a fascinating part of the world
13:13 and we were able to be
13:15 a little bit more open in sharing our faith there.
13:18 Yeah, now, that's where I first met you
13:20 and there the territories that you are helping care for
13:24 it's a very diverse mission area.
13:27 You had, you are in the heart of the 10/40 Window.
13:30 That's right.
13:32 Myron, what have you gained from your mission experience?
13:36 Well, first I think it has helped me more than
13:40 I feel it's helped the people I went to serve.
13:43 And that's the-- the most interesting thing
13:45 about mission service, it changes us.
13:48 And when I came back even from that year
13:51 as a student missionary, it enforced me to think
13:55 through my beliefs and to understand
13:58 and improve my relationship with God.
14:01 But I think it also gave me
14:04 a better understanding of other cultures
14:07 and that we are all different
14:10 but God all created us with a need for Him.
14:13 And that's really what missionaries are out there doing
14:17 is they are telling people what that empty spot in
14:20 their heart is and that's of course is Jesus.
14:24 Now, the Seventh-day Adventist church
14:28 still sends missionaries.
14:30 I'm surprised how often I get the question,
14:32 does a church still sends missionary.
14:34 How many do we send?
14:36 Well, it depends on what classification of missionaries.
14:39 When you are talking career missionaries
14:42 we have right now, I think 453 families filling
14:48 I think 700 posts around the world
14:51 of course husband and wife are being some of those.
14:54 But then we send volunteer missionaries,
14:58 there are short term missionaries.
15:00 So there are hundreds more.
15:02 Global Mission pioneers,
15:03 interdivision missionaries here. Right, right.
15:07 Myron, thank you so much for taking time
15:09 to share from your own experience with us today.
15:12 And viewers at home, yes, the Adventist church
15:14 still does send missionaries all around the world.
15:18 We like to say from everywhere to everywhere.
15:21 And as Myron has pointed out it can get lonely,
15:24 it can get discouraging, sometimes you don't see
15:27 the sort of results that you want
15:29 and you wonder whether this is where
15:30 God has placed you.
15:31 So please continue to pray for missionaries.
15:35 Pray that God will be with them, will bless their work,
15:38 will encourage them and so that they can help
15:40 build God's kingdom where they are.
16:22 My guest is Laurie Falvo,
16:24 who works with me in the office of Adventist Mission
16:26 at the General Conference.
16:28 Laurie, you are involved in communication
16:30 and you do a lot of work on our Global Mission newsletters.
16:34 How do you feel when you see these
16:35 church planting stories come through? Very excited.
16:38 Yeah, people's lives have been changed. They are.
16:41 Now, you recently came back from South Africa
16:44 and we hear a lot about
16:45 the Southern half of the continent of Africa
16:47 where the church is booming, thousands of baptisms,
16:50 but there is a still a bit of challenge in mission?
16:52 Of course yes, especially in our big cities. Yeah.
16:56 On the Sabbath I was there we were able to visit
16:58 three churches in South Africa.
17:01 At the first one in Pretoria
17:03 we met probably about ten Global Mission pioneers
17:06 and we were able to go off into a quite room
17:08 and talk with them about their work that they are doing
17:11 and their challenges and their successes.
17:13 And they are doing some really exciting things.
17:15 They just had a huge evangelistic meeting series
17:19 where before the meeting started they studied with 500 people.
17:23 They had a huge health expo
17:26 attended by a 1,100 people
17:28 and after the meetings they had quite a few baptisms,
17:31 they are still following up on those.
17:33 But the exciting thing is that
17:34 the people who have been baptized
17:36 have formed small groups
17:37 and they are now reaching out to other people
17:40 their friends you know, the people in their communities
17:42 and a Global Mission pioneers
17:44 are heading up those small groups.
17:46 So this is, you know the thing that is so amazing to me
17:49 about South Africa is these people
17:51 the church members want to be so involved.
17:54 As soon as they come in their mind set is,
17:56 how can I be part of this?
17:58 How can I reach out to other people?
17:59 How can I let them know what I know and share?
18:02 Now, for some one who may be viewing this program
18:05 for the first time what is a Global Mission pioneer?
18:08 A Global Mission pioneer is a person
18:10 "who kind of like a missionary"
18:13 except that they are from the area where they work.
18:17 They already know the language they know the culture
18:20 they work on a small stipend they serve as--
18:25 in a pastoral role, they do evangelistic meetings,
18:29 home to home Bible studies.
18:32 And the goal is to plant a new church.
18:34 Plant churches, they raise up new groups of believers
18:36 and then eventually they plant churches. Yeah.
18:39 Now Laurie, you were telling me
18:40 about one of the pioneers Jubulani,
18:42 can you tell me his story?
18:44 Yeah, this is a very, very exciting thing for me.
18:48 There was a pastor-- he was a pastor
18:50 who was heading up a Christian church
18:53 of a different denomination in Johannesburg.
18:57 And somehow he came in contact
18:59 with the concept of Sabbath being a question.
19:03 Some other Christians were asking him about it.
19:06 So he wanted to study this matter out
19:08 and there was a Global Mission pioneer couple
19:11 that began studying with him.
19:14 Untill they got to the issue with the Sabbath
19:17 and then they turned over the meetings
19:19 to Pastor Sibanda and his wife
19:22 who are another Global Mission couple.
19:25 And they studied this out together
19:28 and Pastor Jubulani decided that
19:33 he wanted to keep the Sabbath this was the truth
19:36 but he had a couple of really huge challenges
19:38 and one was whether his wife would accept it
19:41 because he and she had started this church together.
19:45 And he needed her support
19:47 and the other thing is what to do with his congregation.
19:50 You know his choice was
19:51 he could just leave them all together
19:53 and but he didn't want to do that.
19:55 He wanted to share the message with them
19:57 and give them an opportunity to make a decision themselves.
20:00 So he asked Pastor Sibanda and his wife
20:03 to come to their church on a Sunday
20:06 and talk about the Ten Commandments
20:08 and the Sabbath which they did.
20:10 The congregation was very interested
20:12 and they pressed for them coming back
20:14 the following Sunday which they did.
20:17 Two weeks later after meeting on these two Sundays,
20:20 the congregation looks at Pastor Jubulani
20:23 and says to him what do we gonna do about this?
20:27 You know we believe that the Sabbath
20:29 is a Sabbath of the Bible.
20:33 We want to begin worshiping at, what you're gonna do.
20:35 So he looks at them and he says
20:37 well, actually I have been waiting on
20:38 you all to make a decision,
20:39 make sure you are comfortable with this.
20:42 So the very next Sabbath he puts a sign up on the door
20:45 services will be held on Saturday,
20:47 we will be closed Sunday.
20:49 And the-- the entire congregation
20:51 except for a few people
20:53 becomes a Seventh-day Adventist church,
20:55 they just completely switchover.
20:58 So Pastor Sibanda then holds an evangelistic series
21:02 and 23 people are baptized
21:05 including Pastor Jubulani's wife.
21:09 So they are all united in this.
21:12 And then they began reaching out to the people
21:14 who have left and over the last few years
21:17 many of those individuals have comeback as well.
21:20 And the church now is growing so quickly with the members
21:24 reaching out to the community
21:26 that they have outgrown the church that they ran
21:28 and they're actually needing to find a new location.
21:31 Well, it seems like they have
21:32 a real comprehensive plan of follow up,
21:36 not just going to an evangelistic series,
21:38 baptize them, see you later.
21:40 No, they do, they follow through with the Bible studies,
21:45 they pray for people, lot of home visitation.
21:48 Now, you met some other pioneers as well?
21:50 Well, I talked to Pastor Sibanda and his wife
21:53 and they have a very interesting story too.
21:57 After they became Christians
21:58 Pastor Sibanda was accused of a crime
22:03 that he says he did not commit and he went to prison.
22:06 He was in prison for quite a few months, awaiting trail.
22:10 His wife came to visit him in prison all the time
22:13 and they would get together on Sabbaths.
22:16 Eventually what happened is, the wardens got upset about this
22:20 and they told her she could no longer come.
22:23 His case--there was never any paper work about his crime,
22:28 the court through his case out all together.
22:32 The very next Sabbath after the wardens had told
22:35 Mrs. Sibanda that she couldn't come to church
22:37 anymore at the prison
22:39 they walked in hand in hand to begin a prison ministry.
22:42 They felt impressed while they were
22:44 that they were such a great need for Jesus in the prison.
22:47 She specifically ministers to young men
22:49 between the ages of say 13 and 17.
22:52 Just the young ones.
22:54 And she has seen a lot of changed lives
22:57 and interestingly the wardens now call her
23:01 and they tell her there's somebody here
23:02 you need to come and counsel.
23:03 There is somebody in here you need to pray for
23:05 and they are actually inviting them to come
23:07 and to do their prison ministries.
23:09 So I think he was cleared of the crime.
23:11 He was.
23:12 In fact he told me that in hindsight
23:14 he actually feels like it was a blessing.
23:16 As hard as it was to go through for both of them
23:19 that it was a blessing from God
23:21 because it began this whole new ministry for them.
23:24 How do you feel when you met with some of these pioneers?
23:29 Mrs. Sibanda cried with me. It was very moving.
23:32 You know she shared just how hard that was.
23:35 She said that there was a time that she felt like leaving God,
23:38 leaving the church everything but then she said I remembered
23:42 Jesus called me out of the devil dancing
23:45 that I was doing and I said to Him
23:48 I cannot go back, I must go forward with Your help.
23:51 Wonderful.
23:52 Laurie, thanks so much for sharing with us today.
23:54 Thank you, Gary.
23:55 Whenever I meet Global Mission pioneers
23:57 like Laurie I'm humbled when I see their sacrifice,
24:01 when I see their wonderful commitment.
24:03 It can be so challenging as a pioneer in a new area
24:06 or among a new people group.
24:08 Where do you start,
24:09 it can be lonely, it can be discouraging.
24:11 So please, continue to pray for Global Mission pioneers,
24:15 that the Holy Spirit will be there to guide them,
24:18 to comfort them in their important work.
24:31 This small group of believers make up
24:33 the Seventh-day Adventist Church in Ingwavuma, South Africa.
24:37 This group was formed several years ago
24:40 when two Global Mission pioneers came
24:42 and started sharing the gospel with the local community.
24:46 Over the years the group has grown
24:48 and now they are a full fledged church
24:51 with more than 80 members.
24:53 They love to sing
24:54 and they love to hear the message of Jesus
24:56 and the new life that can be found in Him.
25:09 The church now has a district pastor
25:11 and the only problem the church faces
25:13 is a lack of space.
25:15 Currently they are meeting in the local community building,
25:18 but they have to share the space
25:20 and it gets very crowded, even for Friday night vespers.
25:24 You should see how packed they are on Sabbath morning.
25:27 The church's children don't have a room of their own to meet in,
25:30 so they worship under a tree
25:33 by the side of the main road through town.
25:35 They also love to sing and learn about Jesus.
25:47 Your 13th Sabbath Offerings
25:49 will help to provide a new church
25:51 for the members in Ingwavuma.
25:53 A plot of land has been obtained
25:55 and now all they need are the funds
25:57 to build their new spiritual home.
26:00 A small room will also be built
26:02 where the children can meet as well
26:04 and also have a place
26:05 where they can invite their friends to come
26:07 and learn about Jesus.
26:10 Your faithful support of both Global Mission
26:13 and the Mission Offering has made this project possible.
26:17 Global Mission provided the workers
26:19 who planted the seeds in Ingwavuma
26:21 that have now grown into a full church.
26:24 Now your Mission Offerings will continue the work
26:27 that was started by Global Mission.
26:30 Please pray for the members in Ingwavuma
26:33 as they continue to grow
26:34 and share their newfound faith with their friends,
26:38 families and neighbors.
26:41 Thank you for your prayerful support of the Mission
26:44 of the Seventh-day Adventist Church.
26:53 Over the years I had a privilege of meeting hundreds
26:56 of Global Mission pioneers in various parts of the world.
27:00 They always leave me humbled with their spirit of mission,
27:04 their spirit of sacrifice.
27:06 If you enjoy stories of pioneers missionaries and mission
27:10 you want a copy of the mission stories for kids DVD.
27:14 It's designed for kids but it's not just for kids.
27:17 So if you live in North America
27:19 and would like a free copy of this DVD
27:22 simply call our toll free number 1800-648-5824
27:28 or visit our website and ask for the Mission Stories
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27:36 And don't forget to clearly state your name
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27:45 Well, that's it for today's program.
27:47 Thanks so much for joining us
27:48 and I hope you have been inspired
27:50 by what you have seen and heard.
27:53 On behalf of Adventist missionaries
27:54 and Global Mission pioneers serving all around the world
27:58 thank you for your continuing prayers
28:00 and your support for frontline mission.
28:03 Until next time I'm Gary Krause
28:05 for Adventist mission. God bless.>>


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