Global Mission Snapshots

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Three Angels Broadcasting Network

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Participants: Gary Krause (Host), Dan Weber, Don Noble

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00:07 When we look at the world today
00:09 we see that the Seventh-day Adventist Church
00:11 is growing in many, many areas.
00:13 The southern half of the continent of Africa,
00:15 parts of Asia,
00:17 South and Central America tremendous growth
00:19 and we thank God for this.
00:21 But there are still parts of the world
00:22 such as the 10/40 Window
00:24 where most people have still not even heard
00:27 the name of Jesus,
00:29 what a tremendous mission challenge.
00:31 Welcome, to Global Mission Snapshots.
00:38 Just before He went up to heaven,
00:40 Jesus gave us a command.
00:43 He gave us a mission.
00:46 Jesus said, go.
00:49 Go unto all the world,
00:51 telling them of His love.
00:53 This is our mission.
00:55 This is our "Global Mission."
01:03 Hello, I'm Gary Krause,
01:05 welcome to the program.
01:06 On Global Mission Snapshots we love to share stories about
01:10 God touching people's hearts,
01:12 about the church growing, about new groups being planted.
01:16 But every now and then we need to stop
01:19 and we need to look at the remaining challenge.
01:22 Some 2,000 years ago Jesus commissioned His disciples
01:26 to carry the gospel to all the world
01:29 and to make disciples of all nations.
01:32 Today, that gospel commission still hangs over us unfulfilled.
01:37 On today's program we will look again at that challenge.
01:41 We will also be talking with Don Noble,
01:43 about how Maranatha Volunteers International
01:46 is helping the church become beacons of light
01:49 in their communities.
01:51 And we will also talk with video producer, Dan Weber
01:54 about how the good news was shared in a Moldova prison.
01:58 But first, the remaining challenge.
02:01 It's Sabbath and around the world
02:03 millions of Seventh-day Adventist will be
02:06 worshipping in churches of various types today.
02:10 But here in Turkey
02:11 fewer than 80 Seventh-day Adventist believers
02:14 will be meeting throughout the entire country.
02:18 We have fewer than 80 baptized Adventist.
02:22 Around the world our statistics are one Adventist
02:25 for every 424 people.
02:28 Here in Turkey its one for every one million people.
02:33 What a tremendous challenge.
02:36 But its not just here,
02:38 think also of the large population spread out
02:41 in territories to North Africa and throughout Asia.
02:46 Here in Tibet, there is a rich history
02:49 of culture and religion.
02:52 People here are very committed, very spiritual
02:56 but you know its 20 years since Global Mission began
03:00 and the Seventh-day Adventist church
03:02 is not part of the history of Tibet
03:04 there is not one Seventh-day Adventist believer here.
03:08 As I walk the streets I see quite a bit of poverty.
03:11 I have little children coming up to me begging
03:13 and as I look into their eyes I ask the question
03:16 what is the future for them?
03:18 Now I to know that God is working through all cultures,
03:22 through all people's working on hearts and minds
03:24 to bring them to Himself
03:27 but He has called us
03:28 to share His love and as I look at Tibet--
03:31 I look the huge populations all through Asia
03:35 the teaming mega cities of people
03:37 most of them have never even heard the name of Jesus.
03:40 And just think what a tremendous difference
03:42 it would make in their lives
03:44 to know that there is a God who loves them,
03:46 who cares for them and they need have no fear
03:49 of the spirit world.
03:51 God has a plan and He has invited each of us
03:53 to be part of that if we only will say, yes.
03:58 You know, I think of other territories around the world.
04:01 I think of regions that are very different to hear
04:03 places where Christianity was very strong at one stage
04:07 but today it is dying.
04:24 The city of Geneva was one of the most
04:26 critical cradles of protestant reformation.
04:29 It's hard to believe that this city today
04:32 has become one of the most
04:33 secularized cities in all of Europe.
04:38 Behind me is the reformation wall that commemorates
04:41 so many of the leaders of the reformation
04:44 that gave their lives, that gave their all for the gospel
04:48 and the moral above them it says in Latin
04:51 "after darkness light"
04:53 that's what they were fighting,
04:55 that's what they were living their lives
04:57 for the light of Jesus Christ.
04:59 And you have to wonder,
05:00 what those reformers would think today
05:02 after darkness light.
05:04 As we see that Christianity,
05:06 through out Europe is starting to fade
05:09 and that light for those reformers fought for
05:12 what is going to be the future?
05:18 Behind me here in Istanbul, Turkey is the Bosphorus Bridge,
05:22 bridging the two contents of Europe and Asia.
05:26 Europe of course with its declining Christian population
05:30 and Asia with its booming population
05:32 60 percent of the world's population
05:35 but the vast majority of these people groups
05:38 have never even heard the name of Jesus Christ.
05:41 So it's great that we celebrate
05:43 the progress of the church around the world
05:45 and we thank God for it.
05:47 But, let's never ever loose side of the need
05:49 to continue praying for to continue supporting,
05:53 to continue working for the vast numbers of people
05:58 who still need to learn about Jesus Christ
06:01 and a message that we have to share with them.
06:10 I'm delighted to welcome Don Noble, the president
06:13 of Maranatha Volunteers International to our program.
06:16 Don, Maranatha does so much for the church around the world
06:20 and I have heard you described this many times
06:22 as you were a responsive organization.
06:25 Yes. How does that work?
06:26 Well, we don't build things
06:28 that we are not asked to build.
06:29 Right.
06:30 We are not wanted in the place for God
06:32 because there is lot of places that need the physical buildings
06:36 and the requests are huge
06:38 and across many areas of the world.
06:41 So, yeah, we are responsive
06:44 and we listen to what the church says.
06:46 We try to sit down and understand
06:49 what their needs are not just come in and say
06:51 here's what we are gonna do for you.
06:53 So, I guess responsive is a good word.
06:56 Yeah, and we appreciate so much
06:57 the support you give around the world.
07:00 Now Don, Maranatha is involved
07:02 a myriad of different types of projects
07:04 but I want to focus on the one day church
07:07 and the one day school
07:08 and most specifically what's happening in the--
07:12 in Africa at the moment.
07:13 What are you doing to help the church in Africa?
07:18 Well, we have actually interacted
07:21 with all the three major divisions there
07:24 and we worked quite extensively in two of them.
07:27 We started primarily
07:28 in the Southern Africa-Indian Ocean Division
07:31 at the request of Paul Ratsara, the division president.
07:35 He came to me one day and he said I understand that,
07:39 Ron Watts the former president
07:41 in the area of India asked you for 10,000 churches,
07:44 he says that's really nothing.
07:48 I said really? It seem like a lot to me
07:51 but he says no we actually seriously
07:54 we need 50,000 projects in our division
07:58 and this is take a look at Zambia
08:01 with 700 plus thousand members, look at Zimbabwe,
08:05 Zimbabwe with over 700,000 members
08:09 take a look at the great needs in Angola,
08:11 in Mozambique and Malawi and you name it
08:15 and we said okay let's sit down and talk,
08:18 let's see viability of being able to do this.
08:22 And so we met with all the leadership people
08:24 and I said, okay,
08:25 we can't do everything all at once that's not possible.
08:30 Where do you want us to start?
08:34 Amen.
08:35 He says, we need you to start in our toughest area.
08:38 I said, oh, thank you very much.
08:40 Appreciate that.
08:41 Which will that be? He said, Mozambique.
08:44 Let's start in Mozambique.
08:46 It's okay if that's what the church requires there,
08:49 we will take a look at Mozambique, so we did.
08:51 Now, that was tough because it's been a country
08:53 with civil war for many years.
08:54 Yeah, they were in war for like 30 years
08:57 so their education system had been pretty much default
09:02 even the church leadership weren't that educated,
09:05 the union leaders with grade school level education so--
09:11 so we went in there,
09:12 we started building churches and schools
09:14 and it's been a blessing.
09:17 A tough blessing. Yeah.
09:19 It's also been a place
09:20 where we were privileged to drill wells
09:23 at all the churches and the schools
09:25 that we built which is--
09:28 we wanted to have a place
09:29 where people would come for two kinds of water--
09:33 water of life and the water for life
09:36 and so that's-- that's been a great blessing.
09:38 And now they tell me that after about 800 churches
09:43 and six or eight large schools
09:46 that Mozambique not the bottom anymore
09:49 its up in the centre in terms of,
09:52 you know, tithe and offering membership
09:54 is growing by its thousands
09:56 so its need to see that this project
09:59 that came to us as a request from that division
10:03 is started to bare fruit
10:04 for the kingdom of God. Yeah.
10:06 People for the kingdom of God.
10:07 I mean, there is no other purposes to,
10:09 you don't just build buildings,
10:11 the world doesn't need another construction company
10:13 but you need construction for specific purpose.
10:17 The schools, some of the bigger schools
10:18 that we built in Mozambique
10:20 have been name the best schools in those countries.
10:23 Is that right? Oh, yeah.
10:24 But, you know, then we went to Malawi
10:27 we built 600 or 700 churches there,
10:30 there's couple more hundred to go.
10:32 Started in Zimbabwe, work in Zambia.
10:34 Oh, one of the great challenges that's for us right now
10:38 actually came as a request directly from Pastor Ted Wilson.
10:42 He was in Angola he says,
10:44 please do something for Angola.
10:46 They of course been--
10:47 they are also Portuguese speaking,
10:49 they are also been in war,
10:50 they have 80 % of their people are illiterate.
10:55 So we have set a country director in there,
10:58 we are taking a look at education
11:00 to campuses to replace--
11:03 there are over 200 campuses
11:04 the Seventh-day Adventist Church
11:05 used to have in Angola those are all destroyed,
11:09 well they sold the land.
11:11 They need to replace those campuses
11:14 with new buildings.
11:15 So we are taking a look at that
11:16 and it's a huge challenge its tens of millions of dollars.
11:20 And-- if I talk about impact
11:23 there is a window here of time in Angola
11:26 to get in there and make it happen
11:28 so we are trying to be responsive in--
11:31 you need we need lot of partners
11:33 to make that happen but huge benefits
11:36 for the people in their lives now
11:38 and for eternity and so we are jumping in.
11:41 Yeah, now, I'm this is just so exciting
11:44 and I know the need is far greater than we can imagine
11:47 but just briefly
11:48 what difference are these schools
11:50 making in their community, just in a sentence.
11:52 Well, if you can't really put in a sentence
11:55 because you are talking about people's lives to--
11:59 there is the haves and the haves not
12:02 even in the country of Angola.
12:03 You can see it on a straight line
12:05 and people can see it themselves
12:07 and they know that you cross that line only with education
12:10 and the church only grows with education.
12:13 People's lives are what at stake here
12:16 and if they-- if they can't educate it
12:18 they can't even think
12:20 beyond where they were at the low levels.
12:22 So when you come in
12:24 the government is asking us to do it.
12:26 Come back and be the church that you were 40 years ago
12:31 in the area of leadership and education,
12:33 come back and do that we will give you the land.
12:36 Come do it, do it now, do it quick. Fantastic.
12:38 So, I know its exciting
12:40 throughout the whole division there's many opportunities
12:43 and of course the other division brought a request too.
12:46 Don, thanks so much for sharing with us today.
12:49 If you like to find out more information
12:51 go to Maranatha.org.
13:34 My guest is Daniel Weber,
13:35 who is a video producer for Adventist Mission.
13:38 Welcome, Dan. Good to be here, Gary.
13:40 Now, you are normally behind the camera.
13:42 Yes.
13:43 I'm glad that you are here today
13:44 because I want to talk to you a little bit about
13:46 what's its like behind the camera,
13:48 some of the experiences.
13:49 I mean you go to some fairly remote areas of the world
13:53 and just the sheer logistics of getting stories
13:55 can sometimes be difficult.
13:57 Yeah, I started keeping a country list
14:01 when I had been about a year to enter this job,
14:04 because I didn't--
14:05 other people I had worked with at GC
14:06 when I'm-- former to GC
14:08 I was working for a Adventist for some of the television.
14:10 Now, GC what's GC?
14:11 The General Conference I'm sorry, we are often--
14:13 Head quarters of the Adventist Church, thank you.
14:14 And people said that they would keep
14:16 a record of how many countries they have been to.
14:19 So I started and I'm over a 100 now. Okay.
14:22 And some of the logistics and some of the things
14:24 you have to run through to get stories are pretty amazing.
14:28 One story I flew I think
14:32 five different flights into the bunch
14:33 of different road rides and drove in cars
14:36 and was ferried around just to get one story
14:39 but they are usually really good stories.
14:41 Yeah, now, what are you looking for in a story?
14:44 What I want is, someone or an area
14:49 where the gospel needs to go
14:51 or where offerings, or funded a project
14:54 that are reaching people in an instant way
14:57 or a member who is doing an interesting type of outreach.
15:02 And one of the projects that was--
15:07 that was logistically was really hard to get into.
15:09 I found about a project of a Pastor in Moldova
15:13 who is doing prison outreach.
15:16 We tend to think of prisons
15:17 you think of big gigantic buildings with,
15:19 you know, couple of thousand inmates
15:20 and its very sterile environment almost and stuff.
15:24 But something said try to get the story
15:26 so I contacted--
15:27 I was going to Moldova any way to share some stories.
15:30 Moldova is a small country that used to be a part of Russia
15:34 but culturally it's much similar to Romania.
15:37 In fact, it used to be part of Romania
15:39 and it was fought over between--
15:41 between the Romanian's and Russian's.
15:44 And this Pastor is doing his outreach
15:48 and so I wrote an email said can we go?
15:50 I want to go get this story
15:52 and they replied back and said we can try
15:54 you probably won't be able to get in,
15:56 but we need your passport information.
15:58 So I sent him a photocopy of my passport
16:00 I waited 30 days didn't hear anything.
16:02 Emailed again and they said
16:04 we have permission to go.
16:05 I was so excited this is great.
16:07 So this was at the end of a two week trip
16:09 I had been all over Russia, shooting stories and stuff.
16:11 So just before I flew home
16:13 I flew to Moldova to spend the weekend there
16:15 and on Sabbath morning we got up early
16:19 and we drove three hours to get to this prison.
16:22 And I'm having all these ideas
16:23 of what it's gonna look like
16:24 and of course none of them were accurate.
16:27 And we pull up in this small building
16:29 right on the edge of a river
16:31 and we go inside
16:33 and the captain the guard says you can't go in.
16:37 And this pastor goes here
16:39 probably one or two times a month,
16:41 he has seven prisons that he is visiting
16:43 and he said no we are to gonna go in,
16:47 we have permission we arranged this.
16:48 But you can't come in with a camera.
16:50 No, I arranged this
16:51 I talked to the warden about this it's okay.
16:53 And the guard is like no you are not doing it.
16:56 Then we argued back and forth.
16:57 I didn't argued, they argued back and forth
16:58 for about 45 minutes.
17:00 Finally the Pastor pulls out his cell phone
17:03 called the warden, the warden was on vacation.
17:06 Calls the warden on vacation
17:07 and he says we have a problem
17:08 and explains the issue
17:10 and the pastor then comes back to the captain of the guard
17:13 and said the warden wants to talk to you
17:14 and hands him the phone.
17:16 And they go in the back room
17:17 and the door is partially open I can hear lots of yelling.
17:21 And then a long pause
17:22 and I'm sure there was a yelling on the other end of the phone
17:25 and finally the guard comes in
17:27 he hands the phone back to the pastor
17:28 and he said just wait.
17:30 And they took us inside
17:33 and they took us to the assistant warden's office
17:35 and he said you can film but only in the cell.
17:40 You cannot film anything outside the cell.
17:44 Your camera can only be running
17:45 when you are inside this whole cell.
17:46 And I said, oh, yeah.
17:47 I had the ideas of the camera going down the hallway
17:50 and getting these great things and stuff.
17:53 And so I had to film
17:54 the whole complete story inside the cell
17:57 what we did we made it work.
17:59 It was funny, it was fun to do.
18:01 Now, we are gonna look at that video in a few minutes
18:03 but how did that story effect you?
18:07 That the story that you witnessed there?
18:09 It was-- I basically spent a church service
18:12 with seven Adventist who are in prison
18:16 inside the cell and worship with them
18:19 and at the end of a church service
18:20 they thanked me for coming
18:22 and they were tear shed
18:23 and they said please
18:24 let our brothers and sisters around the world know about us
18:28 and that we want their prayer,
18:30 we need their prayers and their support.
18:32 Now support not financially
18:33 but just we want their prayer
18:35 and what they are thinking about us.
18:36 So-- sorry go ahead.
18:38 And I said-- and that was for me
18:40 was the driving factor behind producing this videos
18:43 as I wanted to do them
18:44 just justice and to share their story.
18:46 So when we see these stories
18:48 we don't have the sweating which goes behind them.
18:51 No, and the prayers
18:53 I mean I was praying the whole time.
18:54 Dear God, I need to be able
18:56 to tell their story properly and it worked out.
18:58 Now the Adventist Mission DVD
19:00 that goes out to Adventist churches
19:02 that contains that people
19:04 who may want to watch
19:05 just on their computers at home,
19:06 how do they do that?
19:07 It's easy to do this several ways.
19:09 You can YouTube,
19:11 if you can go Youtube.com/adventistmission
19:14 we have a channel
19:15 with the majority of our videos up there
19:17 and every quarter will have a play list
19:19 for the stories for that quarter plus previous quarters.
19:23 That's one of the good way to do it.
19:24 There is another video site service called Vimeo
19:26 that has our videos on there
19:27 or if you are on iTunes
19:29 you can just search for Adventist Mission
19:30 and actually subscribe for free podcast
19:33 every week we put in a story out.
19:35 Excellent, and for more information
19:37 just go to Adventistmission.org, Excellent.
19:39 Dan, thank you so much for joining us today.
19:41 Thank you, Gary.
19:43 We love to share the inspiration of mission
19:45 and there is nothing like the medium of DVD, video
19:50 to take you right there where the action is
19:52 and thank you for your prayers
19:54 and support for global mission around the world
19:57 but please pray for our team
19:58 like Dan going to some very inhospitable places at time.
20:03 Well, let's go to Moldova
20:05 and let's journey there and let's go behind the bars
20:08 and see what we can see.
20:32 This is a common sight around the world,
20:35 a group of Adventist believers singing
20:37 and sharing their faith,
20:39 celebrating the new lives
20:40 that they have been given by our loving Savior.
20:43 But this group is unlike any other in the church.
20:46 These believers will never set foot
20:48 outside the small room that they worship in.
20:51 They are to spend the rest of their lives here,
20:54 they have been forgiven by God,
20:56 but society requires them to spend
20:58 the rest of their lives behind bars.
21:04 Balloons and children,
21:06 smiling faces, images of life
21:09 something that we sometimes take for granted.
21:12 The country of Moldova is a picturesque landscape
21:16 nestled between the mountains
21:17 of Southern Ukraine and Northern Romania.
21:20 This former Soviet Republic
21:22 has undergone a drastic transformation
21:24 over the past 20 years.
21:27 Yet despite all the changes,
21:29 Moldova is still considered
21:30 one of the poorest countries in Europe.
21:33 People here work hard,
21:34 most of them in agriculture or government
21:37 and they enjoy spending time with their families.
21:40 You will often see young children
21:42 playing in the parks
21:43 that are common place in the capital Chisinau.
21:46 Majority of the people here
21:48 belong to the Russian Orthodox Church,
21:50 but for many religion is something
21:52 that is traditional not experienced.
21:55 The Seventh-day Adventist Church
21:57 has more than 11,000 members, in Moldova
22:00 and a population ratio of one Adventist
22:02 for every 390 people,
22:05 one of the best in the entire Euro-Asia Division.
22:08 Despite this growth, there are still many challenges.
22:13 Seventh-day Adventists in Moldova
22:14 have found ways to not only spread the gospel,
22:17 but to make a difference in their communities.
22:20 One of these is Pavel Girleanu, an Adventist pastor.
22:24 Along with three churches that he pastors,
22:26 Pavel works in seven prisons in Moldova.
22:29 He does everything from arranging
22:31 and holding church services
22:33 in small, cramped cells,
22:35 to arranging family days at prisons
22:37 and detention centers.
22:39 Pavel is making a difference
22:41 in the lives of people the society wants to forget.
22:45 And smiles on the faces of women
22:47 seeing their children for the first time in months
22:50 shows how much they appreciate all that Pavel
22:52 and his helpers are doing.
22:55 The Adventist Development and Relief Agency
22:57 also helps by providing volunteers,
23:00 transportation for family members,
23:01 and toiletry kits for the prisoners.
23:04 Family members breakdown in tears
23:06 as the emotions of months of separation
23:08 come to the surface.
23:10 Although it's a simple act of kindness,
23:13 it's a perfect example of how the church can provide
23:15 relief to those who need.
23:18 Just as Christ did,
23:19 helped people without judging a person for their sins,
23:23 its an other way we can represent Christ here on earth.
23:28 There is one group that Pavel has taken a special interest in,
23:32 a group most people would avoid
23:34 but when that Pavel has taken as his own.
23:38 Once inside this small cell that will serves as his chapel,
23:41 Pavel leads a small group of prisoners in prayer
23:44 and then reads from the Bible.
23:46 Sabbath school turns into a lively discussion,
23:49 as this is the first time the group
23:51 has been able to meet in nearly six months.
23:55 Outside the window of the cell,
23:56 a courtyard gives glimpses of the lonely life
23:59 these prisoners lead.
24:01 All of them will spend the rest of their lives
24:03 in desolation and despair.
24:05 That is, unless they get the chance to talk to Valentin.
24:09 He sits at the back of the group of prisoners
24:11 as they start their church service.
24:13 He has been labeled as a member of the lowest level
24:16 of the prison society
24:18 because he was willing to give a hand
24:19 of Christian love to a fellow prisoner
24:22 Valentin has been labeled an outcast
24:24 by his fellow prisoners.
24:26 He's not allowed to touch
24:27 or even talk to his fellow believers
24:30 who fear that they will be ostracized as well.
24:33 But the men in this cell
24:35 all owe Valentin a debt of gratitude,
24:38 for he was the one
24:39 that brought each of them into the Church.
24:42 Valentin knows that God
24:44 put him in this position for a reason.
24:47 [speaking in foreign language]
24:50 The word of God says that we should be witnesses,
24:52 His witnesses.
24:54 The prisoners are thankful for the new lives
24:56 that they have been given by Christ.
24:58 Despite all that they've done these men now lead new lives.
25:03 [speaking in foreign language]
25:08 And He is ready to accept them
25:09 with all their sins with all their deed
25:12 what they did up to now
25:13 and to give them salvation and to forgive them.
25:17 The church service ends with Pavel's closing prayer,
25:20 and the prisoners prepare to return to their cells.
25:23 For them the Sabbath service is over,
25:25 but they wish to give one last message
25:27 to their fellow Adventists around the world.
25:30 [speaking in foreign language]
25:36 And I would like to ask everybody
25:38 who will see these things--
25:41 [speaking in foreign language]
25:44 To pray about our small group,
25:46 [speaking in foreign language]
25:49 Who are just on the beginning its way to Christ.
25:54 [speaking in foreign language]
25:58 And to remember about us in prayers.
26:03 Thank you for your support of mission around the world.
26:06 To learn more about mission
26:08 and the role that you can play
26:09 in telling the world about Jesus,
26:11 please visit AdventistMission.org.
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27:45 Well, that's it for today's program,
27:47 I'm so glad you could join us.
27:50 Thank you for your continuing prayers,
27:52 your financial support
27:54 and your personal involvement in Global Mission.
27:57 Until next time I'm Gary Krause
28:00 and I hope you can join us next time
28:02 for Global Mission Snapshots.


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