II Timothy chapter
2 and verse 15 states:
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"Study to show
thyself approved unto God,
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a workman that
needeth not be ashamed
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rightly dividing
the word of truth. "
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Hi... I'm Rico Hill, the
host of From Sickness to Health.
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And this is... Sickness,
blue guy, yada, yada, yada.
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Take this. OK... we're
going to settle something
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right here and now. I've
been doing a lot of homework
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doing some, you know,
research... EXTENSIVE research.
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I have thought long
and hard about this.
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And so I've had the team
gather your foods and my foods
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and today we are going
to read some labels, OK?
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All right. OK... so, um,
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I'm going to just
read the items list on mine
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and just... for what purpose?
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The purpose is: you
say "less is better, "
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so we're going to see which
foods have fewer ingredients.
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OK. All right. You
want me to go first?
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No, no, no...
the kid goes first.
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Sugar, enriched flour,
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wheat flour,
niacin, reduced iron,
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thiamine mononitrate...
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Oh these cookies sound
good. Riboflavin, folic a...
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I'm going to stop right there.
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You could have
kept going though, huh?
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I could have
kept going. All right.
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I'll just go to
mine now: Fuji apple.
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OK, go on... read the
ingredients. The sugars,
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the fibers... all
that. No, no, no, no.
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The sugars and the
fiber... they all go together.
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They work together so you
don't have to read any list.
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Oh... wait a minute. Switch!
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All right. You want
me to read this one now?
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Yes I do.
Should I go first? Yes.
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All right... here we
go. Let's see: cereal.
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Some kind of blueberry cereal.
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It's got flour, lots of sugar.
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Artificial color,
artificial this... flavors.
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High fructose...
And I have a banana.
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Clearly fewer ingredients.
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Wait a minute. So why
don't you just eat those
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instead of the food item that
has 100 different ingredients
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that you always are promoting
and can't even pronounce?
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Maybe I will. OK then!
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I mean I WON'T!
Wait... what just happened?
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Are you sure you thought
this whole thing through?
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Did you think? I mean,
all the extensive research?
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OK... whatever. Look,
today we're going to talk about
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food labels and how you can
become an educated consumer.
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Roll it. Good research.
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This isn't over!
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Thank you so much for
joining us here in the studio of
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From Sickness To Health.
You're going to be so glad that
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you are sticking around.
We have a wonderful program
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for you today. We're
going to be talking about
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something that I'm excited about
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and I know that
you're excited about it, too:
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we're going to talk about food.
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Not just food, though.
We're going to talk about
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food labeling so that you
can be an educated consumer.
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Now before we get into the
discussion which is going to be
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lively, you're
going to enjoy our guests,
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let's say hello to our
friend, our co-host Sickness.
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What have you got goin' on?
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Why hello Rico! I'm here
at the food label factory
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where our motto is:
if you can't pronounce it
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let's announce it!
So my goal today is
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overwhelm the
people just like this:
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look at all those
labels comin' at you!
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You're gonna see. All
right, we'll get back to you.
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I know you're going to go some-
where, maybe in a science lab
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somewhere to cook up something.
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But in the meantime,
let's say hello to our guests.
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We're excited
about our guests today.
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We have with us Dr. Yvonne Lewis
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who is a naturopathic doctor
but also the general manager
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of this network. And we're
so happy for you to be with us
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to give us your insight.
Well thank you; I'm so glad
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to be here! Ah, we're
excited; we're excited.
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And also we have
with us Dr. Thomas Jackson
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who's been on the
program before. He is a doctor
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of natural health sciences but
also the head of the ministry
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M.E.E.T. Ministry in
Huntingdon, Tennessee.
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He's going to talk to us more
about that and how they deal
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with this whole food
thing. Welcome to the program.
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Thank you. And with
him his bride by his side.
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I don't think he goes anywhere
without her... and he shouldn't.
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He's here with his
lovely wife Dr. Laverne Jackson.
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She is a doctor of
nutritional sciences.
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Welcome to the
program. Thank you.
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Now as we get started
here I want to just sort of set
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the tone. Food has changed.
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Food has changed so much
that we have to label it.
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But is this a good thing? Is it
a good thing to label our food?
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Just a little history on
food. Food used to be simple.
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It came right from the ground.
Is that right? That's right.
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From the garden.
Straight from the garden
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and you didn't need any labels.
We find that toward the end
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of the 1700's
something dramatic happened
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to our food: it began to change.
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Processed food
began to be produced.
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It was a man by the
name of Nicholas Appert.
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He was commissioned
by Napoleon Bonaparte
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to preserve meat while
the troops were in battle.
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And this began bottling food.
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Then you had a man by
the name of Peter Durant.
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He was an Englishman,
and he began to can bottles
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or put a protective
tin can around bottles.
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And then canning
was born in 1821.
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Um-hmm. And then we see
that William Underwood...
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William Underwood: he was
someone who began to preserve
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a lot of the fruits and
vegetables, frozen fruits and
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vegetables. And we
had a whole paradigm shift
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in the way that
we treated our foods.
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And now it is
necessary to label those foods.
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Labels such as
fat free, sugar free.
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But is it fat free? Come on now.
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So now that's where
we want to start today.
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What's going on with the
labeling? How can we trust them?
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What's all the wording and the
things that we can't pronounce?
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Umm... that's interesting.
You know, when you said labeling
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for what purpose do they do
that? #1, since it started with
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additives and preservatives
it was supposed to be to protect
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the consumer and also to
put restriction upon those who
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were manufacturing food from
putting adulterated ingredients
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into the product. Um-hmm!
So the idea was to protect
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the consumer and to prevent
any adulterated ingredients
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from going into the product.
Whether that worked or not -
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we see the
results today - is not.
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It is not. In fact, we
find that during the 1970's...
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we find in the 1970's
there was so much fat and salt
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in the food and they
began to... the government
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actually commissioned the
FDA to begin to do something
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because the food was
just causing so much disease
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and so much sickness that...
Did you hear that? Sickness?
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Sickness! So much sickness
that there had to be a change
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in the way that we were labeling
food. As you just pointed out,
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Dr. Jackson. And
then they got together
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in closed doors and
board rooms and they decided
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"What are we going to
do? " And they found a way
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to begin to use
more salt - oh dear! -
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less fat... but
more salt and more sugar.
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Um-hmm. In fact, this has
been the bane of our existence:
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added sugars and lots of fat.
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So when we're looking at labels
let's look at some of this
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as we're talking about this.
You know, one of the things,
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Rico, that we really need
to look at is the fact that
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when people go in the store
they're just looking at the
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packaging - um-hmm -
but not reading the label...
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so really not
knowing what they're getting.
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So people just assume
that since it's in the store
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I can eat it. So they see
something... and packaging...
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There's a lot of subliminal
messaging in packaging.
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People... It's a psychology
behind... well, on Madison Ave.
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You know, the commercials and
all that. There's a psychology
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behind the food packaging.
So they will package it in
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certain colors and all
that drawing people's attention
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to it. When they draw
your attention to it...
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They have certain things
at eye level or just below at
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children's eye level. So the
kids will take it, dump it into
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the cart, and the parents don't
even know what they're getting
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because they're
not reading the labels.
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It can be argued, you
know, that some of it's not even
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really food, is
it? No! It's not food!
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We're going to go ahead and
make that statement, and we're
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going to make a rule... I'm
going to set a rule right now...
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don't ever believe
anything on the front of a box.
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It's all
marketing... it's all marketing.
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Now having come from a market-
ing and television background
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I saw so much of how to
take those cereal boxes...
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Yeah? It must be important.
It must make a lot of money
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because they devote an
entire aisle to them, right?
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Absolutely! And
you're right about that:
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they put things eye level...
especially for the kids.
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That's right. And the
worst ones with the most sugar
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are at eye level
for the young kids.
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It's all a strategy, and
we have to be aware of that.
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But let's check in real quick.
I know you've got something
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Dr. Jackson that you want to add
to after this. That's all right.
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We're going to come to you in
a second, but let's go check in
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with Sickness and see where
he is. Where are you, Sickness?
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Thank you Rico. You'd expect
to find me in a kitchen...
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but today I'm in a laboratory.
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Because I'm here with
professionals and we've been
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doing some research really see-
ing what's going on with food.
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And the amazing thing is
that science is showing that
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science has figured a
way to make food taste better
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and sweeter. Let's
take cereal for example.
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Now most people think
cereal's pretty healthy...
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but you and I know different.
It's chock full of sugar
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and replacement berries.
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So somebody's walking down
the aisle and they see that
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beautiful picture of
what looks like a blueberry.
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It's right on the box of cereal!
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But it's not a blueberry. See,
this is the genius of science:
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It's a replacement berry.
These berries last 100 years!
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That's right! And
they're just as sweet.
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So let's leave the
food to the scientists
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because people aren't
reading labels anyway.
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Stop worrying about
it. Back to you, Rico.
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I think the suggestion was
that we just leave it to the
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scientists. That's right.
Should we just leave it to
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the scientists? You know
this is definitely how we see
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the mindset has changed
where we have total confidence
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in science and those who
control our food industry.
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And so it's like the
blind leading the blind.
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And so you find like
in Deuteronomy chapter 4
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there's a statement,
verse 2. Deuteronomy chapter 4.
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And it's very interesting that
Sickness is in a laboratory.
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And in Deuteronomy chapter
4... We're talking about food
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labeling and
preservatives and additives.
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And in verse 2 notice
what the great Chemist said.
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The chief Chemist. The
chief Chemist... God Himself.
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The master Scientist.
The supreme Scientist.
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He warns us here... He warns
us. He says here in verse 2:
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"You should not add unto
the word which I command you. "
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Then He says: "Neither should
you diminish ought from it
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that you might keep the command-
ments of the Lord your God
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which I command you.
" Not add or take away.
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Now even in the turn of the
century they had a condition
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called beriberi.
Beri-beri. B-E-R-I B-E-R-I.
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And it affected the whole
physiogical makeup of people.
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Bone problems, etc.
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And the reason they ended up
with beri-beri is the fact that
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they began to
process the foods. OK?
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And they stripped the
grains... whole grains...
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of 81-something
nutrients. You have the germ,
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you have the
endosperm, you have the bran.
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So you remove the
bran and you feed the bran
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to the animals.
You take the germ.
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You remove 81 nutrients
you've got endosperm, so now
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you've got a white product.
So you're losing nutrients.
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So you end up with a
deficiency called beri-beri
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which is a result of
thiamine. So what they did
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in the laboratory
instead of giving the whole food
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they went into the laboratory
and they add synthetic thiamine
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to it. So every time
you look at a product
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on the counter or from your
store - white flour - you see
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thiamine... B1... added.
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Now Rico, if you had
$20 in your pocket...
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um-hmm - I reached
out and took the $20 out
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and put $10 back would
you feel like you've been
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enriched... or ripped off?
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Sickness would be OK
with that but I wouldn't.
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So you're going to take 81
nutrients... take 81 nutrients,
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put 10 back synthetically
and label it it's OK?
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Um-hmm. Now you predispose
people to allergies and sinus
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and asthma
because of the synthetics.
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Rico I'd like
to comment on that.
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We thought he would,
didn't we? I thought he would.
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Yes, go right ahead. You
see, we live in an advanced age
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and we just worked on
an ingredient here called
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"you should have known
better mond oxide amine #5. "
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And you know I really feel
like things like this we need to
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leave to the scientists
because we have drugs now
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that will treat allergies. So
Dr. Jackson doesn't have to be
00:14:29.96\00:14:32.70
concerned. One step ahead...
that's where science is!
00:14:32.90\00:14:35.60
So in other
words according to him
00:14:36.87\00:14:38.71
if we go ahead and just
have the synthetic thiamine
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and it leads... or other
additives, or other additives -
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and there are a lot of
those - right - we get sick.
00:14:44.48\00:14:47.15
We come down with
some debilitating disease
00:14:47.35\00:14:49.82
or some annoying
situation like allergies:
00:14:50.02\00:14:53.92
just go get a
drug. Just go get a drug.
00:14:54.22\00:14:55.89
We could talk about that
but we're just going to go ahead
00:14:56.09\00:14:57.76
and miss that because who
wants to deal with that, right?
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That's right. Now,
you talk about additives.
00:15:00.50\00:15:03.50
Um-hmm. Talking about
the supreme Scientist.
00:15:03.70\00:15:06.53
What kind of additives
do we have in this beautiful
00:15:06.94\00:15:11.04
red pepper? You know, the
Bible says in Matthew 19:6
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"What God has joined together
let no man tear asunder. "
00:15:16.01\00:15:18.45
Come on. Um-hmm. And I
remember on one previous show
00:15:18.65\00:15:20.88
Dr. Lewis mentioned even
in a tomato... You talk about
00:15:21.08\00:15:23.55
10,000 phytochemicals.
Phytochemicals! That's right.
00:15:23.75\00:15:26.86
Now, synergistically
put together that God did.
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And, like you said...
00:15:30.69\00:15:33.40
It's in... There's a commercial
that says: "It's in here. "
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It's in there... and
you don't have to read it.
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The color speaks for itself, and
so the additives... There's no
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additives in here. It's
the fact that this is the way
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it's made up. The very
constituency of this food
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is derived from a Creator who
loves us and who is concerned -
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listen to this - who is
concerned about our life
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and not shelf life. Come
on. Did you get that one?
00:15:57.12\00:15:59.89
I heard what you said.
I'll even add something to that.
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I always like to tell people:
"The longer its shelf life
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the shorter yours. " Is that
true? That's right; that's true.
00:16:05.89\00:16:07.70
So we find that people...
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we find that people
go into a grocery store
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and they go to the
center aisles - um-hmm -
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where things are canned, things
are boxed, things are in bags,
00:16:15.97\00:16:19.97
things have been highly
processed. And we're seeing that
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if it's in something
that you've got to rip open
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with some scissors or a blade
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and struggle to open it up
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it's probably something
you shouldn't put in your body.
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That's right. Is
that right? That's true!
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And we find that people
avoid going to the outer part
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of the store. Isn't that
something? Right? That's right.
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Especially in some of
our communities like the
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African-American
community where we are short on
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our fruits and vegetables,
our produce and so forth
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but instead tend to go to
those things that are very very
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simple and
so-called "convenient. "
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But they're not very convenient,
are they? No they're not.
00:17:01.88\00:17:04.02
They're not, because when
you look at the conditions
00:17:04.22\00:17:06.72
that we are going to
suffer with as a result of this
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convenience then
it's not convenient.
00:17:09.76\00:17:12.39
OK, so let's... You
know, on a typical program -
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I've seen it on different
news programs - they'll...
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they'll take you to the
nutritional facts that are found
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on the various things
here and they'll tell you
00:17:21.60\00:17:24.07
how to read them. And it's like
you'd have to do multiplication,
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you've got to do division.
You've got to divide it all up
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and figure out how many calories
and all these different things.
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How can we simplify this?
00:17:33.25\00:17:34.58
I'll tell you where we're going;
I'll tell you where we're going.
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We're going to go
to the conclusion:
00:17:37.39\00:17:40.52
that it's much easier
to have less ingredients.
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The less you have to read,
the less you have to pronounce,
00:17:45.29\00:17:49.73
umm - the better you are.
So that's where we're going.
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Yes. Right? That's right.
00:17:52.63\00:17:54.10
If you have to go to a box
to eat, if you're eating out of
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boxes, there's a problem
00:17:57.97\00:17:59.71
because you have to
read what's in there.
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You need to know what
you're getting, first of all.
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But God has given us in these
fresh fruits and vegetables
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everything that's bioavailable.
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Our bodies don't have to
do a whole bunch of changing
00:18:13.69\00:18:16.52
and all that to eat these.
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Whereas with this,
there are things that are
00:18:19.29\00:18:22.60
not pronounceable. If
you can't pronounce it,
00:18:22.80\00:18:25.07
it should not go into your body.
00:18:25.27\00:18:26.94
If you have to go
and get a dictionary -
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that's right - and begin to find
out then something is wrong.
00:18:29.64\00:18:32.84
That's right; that's right.
People are looking at this and
00:18:33.04\00:18:34.88
they're saying:
"What's the problem?
00:18:35.08\00:18:38.11
You know it tastes good. " Aah!
00:18:38.31\00:18:41.28
"It tastes really
good and this says... "
00:18:41.48\00:18:44.89
Now watch this. Let's see
if you all remember what I said
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the rule is... "It says here
smile... it's the cheesiest. "
00:18:47.69\00:18:52.69
Right? That's marketing!
00:18:52.89\00:18:56.36
You've got to remember
that they'll put anything
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on the cover of the
box or bag to draw you in.
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And you know, some people buy
it? Oh yes. Not just purchase it
00:19:02.70\00:19:06.24
but they buy into it
and they'll even say it back
00:19:06.44\00:19:09.58
to you. That's
right. Right? That's right.
00:19:09.78\00:19:11.48
That means that something
has happened psychologically
00:19:11.68\00:19:14.22
as you mentioned in
the beginning, right?
00:19:14.38\00:19:16.28
But they'll look here and, in
fact, I said they'll look here.
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Yes. But that's not
quite true. That's right.
00:19:21.46\00:19:24.29
Rico, that's exactly right.
Let me comment on that please
00:19:24.49\00:19:26.83
if I may. Go right ahead.
00:19:27.03\00:19:30.50
OK. You see, I'm going to steal
a play from you on this one.
00:19:30.70\00:19:34.07
There are lots of Christians
that don't read their Bibles
00:19:34.47\00:19:38.14
but take the
pastor's word for it. Um-hmm.
00:19:38.34\00:19:40.81
So learning how they
do that I'd like to say:
00:19:41.01\00:19:43.68
"You can trust
me with your health.
00:19:43.88\00:19:46.48
Don't read the labels just
like you don't read the Bible. "
00:19:46.68\00:19:49.28
You think you're
quite smart, don't you?
00:19:50.82\00:19:52.72
So he just raised
an interesting point.
00:19:53.82\00:19:56.29
He raised a true point.
People aren't reading it and
00:19:56.49\00:19:57.99
they're trusting the scientists.
They're trusting, and he draws
00:19:58.19\00:20:01.53
an analogy that
we should talk about.
00:20:01.73\00:20:03.13
And that is a lot of people,
they... You know, they're told
00:20:03.33\00:20:06.03
what's in here. Don't
pick it up themselves,
00:20:06.23\00:20:08.74
right? They will pick it
up, take it with them to church
00:20:08.94\00:20:12.94
but they don't
necessarily read it themselves.
00:20:13.34\00:20:15.38
Somebody else is
feeding them the information
00:20:15.58\00:20:17.58
just like the, what is it?
Madison Ave. who does all the
00:20:17.78\00:20:21.58
advertising and
marketing and so forth.
00:20:21.78\00:20:23.49
They're like the pastor. They're
feeding people information -
00:20:23.69\00:20:27.56
come on - and they're not
actually looking at what's
00:20:27.76\00:20:30.86
really going on. That's right.
And that creates spiritual
00:20:31.06\00:20:33.83
sickness as well as
physical sickness. Um-hmm.
00:20:34.03\00:20:37.50
So when you're not actually...
As we started out with
00:20:37.70\00:20:40.80
the Word of God we
shared the scripture:
00:20:41.00\00:20:43.27
"Study to show thyself
approved. " Study to show
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THYSELF approved! So
are we making application
00:20:46.34\00:20:49.81
to even our food and
our health? That's right.
00:20:50.01\00:20:53.68
We ARE making application
to our food and health
00:20:53.88\00:20:56.58
in that we should actually
be studying to show ourself
00:20:56.79\00:20:58.89
approved unto
God because God says
00:20:59.09\00:21:02.12
in Romans chapter 12 that
we are to present our bodies
00:21:02.32\00:21:06.09
a "living sacrifice. "
That means a healthy sacrifice.
00:21:06.29\00:21:09.43
Can we have our
bodies be a living sacrifice
00:21:09.63\00:21:12.73
if we are picking up things
and not understanding what it is
00:21:13.03\00:21:18.97
we are eating? Yes, yes.
00:21:19.17\00:21:21.24
Because the conditions
that we are suffering with...
00:21:21.44\00:21:23.28
Like for instance the
additives... I think you missed
00:21:23.48\00:21:25.18
the question. I said CAN
WE! Can our bodies be a living
00:21:25.38\00:21:29.05
sacrifice if we
are picking this up
00:21:29.25\00:21:31.32
not understanding? No.
OK, I wanted to make sure.
00:21:31.52\00:21:33.36
No, no... because the conditions
that we are going to suffer with
00:21:33.76\00:21:37.13
are going to affect
that. And our bodies will be an
00:21:37.33\00:21:40.43
unhealthy - that's right -
dying sacrifice. That's right.
00:21:40.63\00:21:43.53
That's not what we want.
That's not what we want, no.
00:21:43.73\00:21:45.07
I think it has to be understood
that everything that we take
00:21:45.17\00:21:48.00
into the body has an effect.
That's right. Whether it's a
00:21:48.20\00:21:50.74
negative effect or a
positive effect - um-hmm -
00:21:50.94\00:21:53.07
on the cell. We go
down to the cellular level
00:21:53.27\00:21:57.01
where every cell
responds to what we put in.
00:21:57.41\00:22:01.45
The body is made up of all
of these trillions of cells...
00:22:01.65\00:22:06.32
like 60 trillion cells.
00:22:06.52\00:22:08.49
And what we eat? That's all
the cells have to work with.
00:22:08.69\00:22:12.89
That's right. What we
eat. It makes our blood.
00:22:13.09\00:22:15.50
The blood takes the nutrients
and oxygen to the cells,
00:22:15.70\00:22:18.47
so if we don't have food and
we're eating junk and chemicals
00:22:18.67\00:22:22.84
that's how the body is
going to respond to that.
00:22:23.04\00:22:25.81
Because its not being
fed its going to starve.
00:22:26.01\00:22:29.08
So we find people that are
overly fed and malnourished.
00:22:29.28\00:22:34.28
Wow! Now you just
raised a few excellent points.
00:22:34.48\00:22:37.62
You talked about chemicals,
and when we're talking about
00:22:37.82\00:22:39.95
processed foods we're
talking about foods that are
00:22:40.16\00:22:43.06
very very high in chemicals.
00:22:43.26\00:22:45.19
When we're talking about
things that you cannot pronounce
00:22:45.39\00:22:48.60
and you have to read a
paragraph, a full paragraph
00:22:48.80\00:22:51.90
of things... Even when it
comes down to your bread -
00:22:52.10\00:22:54.44
yeah - you find
that... It blew my mind when I
00:22:54.64\00:22:57.74
picked up a loaf of bread. Yeah.
And there was one that just had
00:22:57.94\00:23:00.71
just about six ingredients
but then I saw another
00:23:00.91\00:23:04.78
that had about 50
ingredients. Um-hmm!
00:23:04.98\00:23:07.68
And I said: "What's so
special about that bread
00:23:07.88\00:23:10.12
over the one that just
had the fewer ingredients? "
00:23:10.32\00:23:12.15
Um-hmm. And it was
just a lot of chemicals...
00:23:12.35\00:23:15.39
things that I really couldn't
pronounce to be quite honest
00:23:15.59\00:23:17.69
with you. So we're seeing
that there's a lot of chemicals
00:23:17.89\00:23:21.23
in processed foods.
And you talk about the
00:23:21.43\00:23:24.37
cellular level. People
don't fully understand this,
00:23:24.57\00:23:27.64
but what we eat we're not
feeding our stomach, are we?
00:23:27.80\00:23:30.87
That's right. We're really
feeding our cells. That's right.
00:23:31.07\00:23:33.84
If we could just
understand THAT point...
00:23:34.04\00:23:36.58
If we could understand
that when we are eating
00:23:36.78\00:23:39.38
the food that goes in is
not just to make our stomachs
00:23:39.58\00:23:42.35
feel good but it's actually
feeding us on the cellular level
00:23:42.55\00:23:46.05
and everything depends on
how happy and how well those
00:23:46.25\00:23:50.73
cells are. Is that right?
That's right... that's correct.
00:23:50.93\00:23:52.53
And if you think about what
happens after that food goes in
00:23:52.73\00:23:57.17
the whole purpose is: "the life
of the flesh is in the blood. "
00:23:57.37\00:23:59.80
So the foods that we
eat will produce blood,
00:24:00.00\00:24:02.87
and that blood is
going to nourish our body,
00:24:03.07\00:24:05.07
cleanse our
body. But do you know
00:24:05.27\00:24:07.01
if the brain does
not get good, pure blood
00:24:07.21\00:24:10.61
we will not be able to hear
the words that God is going to
00:24:10.81\00:24:14.18
speak to us to change our lives.
00:24:14.38\00:24:16.18
And then... Oh
wow... wow, wow, wow!
00:24:16.38\00:24:18.59
So you're saying that
if your blood is not good
00:24:18.89\00:24:21.49
it doesn't feed the brain
because circulation is taking
00:24:21.69\00:24:25.06
nutrition up to our
brains. That's right.
00:24:25.26\00:24:27.93
And if it's not good nutrition
then we can't even hear
00:24:28.13\00:24:30.60
the voice of God. So
when we go and someone says
00:24:30.80\00:24:33.37
"I'm going to
tell you what this says
00:24:33.57\00:24:35.37
and I'm going to tell you how
to worship and when to worship"
00:24:35.57\00:24:38.14
and all that, we
might not be able to process
00:24:38.34\00:24:43.24
because of what we're eating.
And then we accept whatever
00:24:43.45\00:24:45.88
they say just like what's
on this box. That's correct.
00:24:46.08\00:24:48.38
Now I like what
you said, Dr. Jackson.
00:24:48.58\00:24:50.65
You mentioned that what we
eat - and you said it, too -
00:24:50.85\00:24:52.99
what we eat
actually makes blood.
00:24:53.19\00:24:55.26
If you eat this
beautiful red pepper,
00:24:55.46\00:24:58.76
it goes in and it makes blood.
Is that right? That's right.
00:24:58.96\00:25:01.76
If you pick up a candy
bar - I won't say what type -
00:25:01.96\00:25:06.00
but if you pick up one of those
I'm not sure what it makes!
00:25:06.20\00:25:09.54
Except maybe make you sick.
00:25:10.71\00:25:12.37
Our time is gone. This has
been a very lively discussion.
00:25:12.57\00:25:15.18
Tune in another time when we
have to pick up this discussion
00:25:15.58\00:25:18.05
again. There's so much
more that we can cover.
00:25:18.25\00:25:20.58
But in the meantime, don't worry
so much about what you read
00:25:20.78\00:25:24.75
on a box. Instead, pick up
something that has no labels
00:25:24.95\00:25:27.29
at all - Amen - and
you'll be healthy eating that.
00:25:27.49\00:25:29.89
We'll see you next time.
00:25:30.09\00:25:31.43
The wisdom of
Solomon comes through for us
00:25:33.06\00:25:36.40
in Proverbs 30:7-8.
00:25:36.60\00:25:38.87
"Two things have
I required of thee:
00:25:39.17\00:25:41.30
deny me them not before I die.
00:25:41.50\00:25:44.51
Remove far from
me vanity and lies;
00:25:44.71\00:25:48.08
give me neither
poverty nor riches.
00:25:48.28\00:25:50.55
Feed me with
food convenient for me
00:25:50.75\00:25:53.92
lest I be full
and deny Thee and say
00:25:54.12\00:25:57.79
'Who is the Lord? ' "
00:25:57.99\00:26:00.52
The wise man Solomon
brings something very important
00:26:00.92\00:26:04.59
to light. First, that there is a
food that is convenient for us.
00:26:04.79\00:26:09.20
That word convenient
isn't the kind of convenience
00:26:09.70\00:26:13.47
we think of like packaged food
or processed food from a store
00:26:13.67\00:26:18.17
but packaged from
the very hand of God.
00:26:18.37\00:26:21.21
You see, it means prescribed.
00:26:21.41\00:26:24.15
An apple is also
convenient and it is certainly
00:26:24.35\00:26:28.48
prescribed by God.
00:26:28.88\00:26:30.82
Secondly, Solomon also points
out that we can eat a type of
00:26:31.02\00:26:35.82
food that makes us so
full - although it's empty -
00:26:36.02\00:26:40.20
to the extent that
we will forget God.
00:26:40.40\00:26:43.47
Now... do we
really want to forget God?
00:26:43.97\00:26:46.94
Thank you
Rico... that was moving.
00:26:48.64\00:26:51.47
Thank you. Now here's your
bag with all your stuff in it.
00:26:51.67\00:26:54.81
Wait a minute. I
thought we settled this.
00:26:57.21\00:26:58.85
Oh, we settled the fact that
according to scientific data
00:26:59.05\00:27:03.08
you don't know what you're
talking about until you've had
00:27:03.28\00:27:07.09
one of these babies.
Had this one since 1992.
00:27:07.29\00:27:11.83
Mmm... it's aged to perfection!
00:27:12.23\00:27:16.60
I replaced all
your convenient fruit
00:27:16.80\00:27:19.37
with some of these babies.
00:27:19.57\00:27:21.24
Man... you
don't give up, do you?
00:27:22.14\00:27:23.57
Look friends, if God wanted
us to have these, He would have
00:27:23.77\00:27:26.64
placed them in the garden.
You'll never see one of these
00:27:26.84\00:27:29.01
hanging from a tree.
Just remember III John 2.
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"Beloved, I wish above all
things that thou would prosper
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and be in health...
even as your soul prospers. "
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I'm Rico Hill; I'm
Sickness. This is so good!
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Maranatha.
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