In the book of Judges
chapter 20, verses 38 and 40
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it states: "Now there was
an appointed sign between the
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men of Israel
and the liers in wait
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that they should make
a great flame with smoke
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rise up out of the city.
And when the men of Israel
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turned again, the men
of Benjamin were amazed
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for they saw that
evil was come upon them. "
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Now... to Israel it was a sign
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but to Israel's enemies it
was a warning of coming evil.
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Smoke signals are one
of the most ancient forms
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of long-distance communication.
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In the book of Judges
God's people used smoke signals
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in battle. The ancient
Chinese did the same thing
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with smoke to
signal an impending attack.
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But one of the most beautiful
signals of long-distance
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communication was during
the sanctuary service in ancient
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Israel where the smoke
from the sacrifice represented
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the long-distance
prayers of the saints
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mingled with the close
righteousness of Christ.
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Wow! I'm Rico Hill, host
of From Sickness To Health,
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and this is
Sickness the blue guy.
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Whoa! I see you've got
your own little smoke thing
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happening here. Yeah, I've
got my own smoke communication
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goin' on. Cool, cool. What
kind of signal are you sending?
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That there's a bar-b-que at
your house tonight at 6 o'clock.
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Oh no, no, no, no, no.
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No... no...
you've got it all wrong.
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There's no barbeque at
my house. Oh there is now!
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Me and about 50
of my best of friends
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are going to your place for
burgers and chicken and steaks,
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oh my! Oh, no,
no, no, no. You've got
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the wrong smoke
signal my friend.
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This program is
about inflammation
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and what triggers it
like grilled meat that is
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carcinogenic. What
about grilled tofu?
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Roll the program.
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What about smoked tofu?
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You are right here in the studio
of From Sickness To Health
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and we are so thankful
that you have joined us here.
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Now today we're going to get
into a topic that's gonna make
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a lot of you happy.
Some of you, you're going to
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have some things to think about.
But before we do any of that
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we're going to say hello
to our good friend and co-host
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Sickness who is on location
in some remote... aah! remote
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location. You're
at a bar-b-que place.
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How's everything,
Sickness? Oh, I'm doing good.
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Look at this. I'm at
Riscky's Bar-B-Q... get it?
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Man... that's good! They've
got smoked armadillo here.
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Well we're going to talk
some more about that. I know
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it's going to be interesting.
But let me introduce our
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guests today. I
have with us once again
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Dr. Thomas Jackson, who
is a doctor of natural health
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sciences and also the head
of the M.E.E.K. Ministry in
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Huntingdon, Tennessee.
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Welcome Dr. Jackson. Oh,
thank you for having me again.
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We're going to have
fun. With him is his wife
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who is a doctor of nutritional
sciences: Laverne Jackson.
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Thank you for being
here with your husband.
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Thank you for inviting us.
And you know it's always fun
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on this program
when we have couples.
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And once again we
have couples day here on
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From Sickness To Health. It's
nice to see healthy couples.
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All right. We've got another
healthy couple here with us.
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We've got Reidland Bredy
who is a physical therapist
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and he's with his
lovely wife Sherry-Lynne Bredy.
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And she is an occupational
therapist, and they have
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a passion for health AND minis-
try. Welcome to the program.
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Thank you; thank you,
Rico. Glad you're all here.
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We're going to have a
great discussion 'cause today
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we're talking
about barbequing...
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grilling on the barbie as
they say. So... you're going to
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love the things
we're going to talk about.
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But first we're going to have
Sickness go from his location
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to another location.
He's going to show us what
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he's working on. Whatcha got?
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Thanks Rico. I know that
today you're planning to speak
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in a derogatory
manner about one of America's
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greatest
pastimes and traditions.
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So I'd like to take... I'd
like to talk right to the camera
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to the hearts of
the men out there.
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Men: I want to stand
up for you for a change.
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You know, men, depression is
the leading cause of depression.
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And the reality is
it's been this way for years
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and years. Otherwise strong
active men of great talent
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under the tyranny of this
incapacitating pseudo illness
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with no relief in sight.
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That is... until the
barbeque grill was invented.
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This amazing device
has changed the world!
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And it was made in a
laboratory just like this one.
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After this,
depression started to disappear,
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and amazingly, this
pastime led to that.
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Most mental disorders?
They were completely or
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mostly eradicated
by at least 2-1/2%
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and the "normal
men" started to arise
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to become members of
society... free of depression,
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free of boredom and most of
those embarrassing inhibitions.
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And now: men...
they love their meat.
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They love their
delicious meat on these grills.
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The conclusions reached in
the expressed and unexpressed
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opinions of
those who are grilling:
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these do not reflect normal
people. Back to you, Rico.
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Thank you,
Sickness. Do you buy it?
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Do you all buy it? Hmmm. Little
tough to take, right? Yeah.
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What do you all think of this
whole thing: depression is the
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leading cause of depression
and without the barbeque grill
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men are depressed.
Any validity to this?
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I think it's a smokescreen.
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A smokescreen! Absolutely!
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I think it's a smokescreen
that's behind that. No set up.
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So today we're talking
about a great American pastime.
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People love it; they enjoy it.
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They are... You know, if
you try to take it away...
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And we have to acknowledge,
we have to concede that -
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oh yes - it's a part of
life, it's a part of culture.
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Yes. Certainly in certain
regions of the country, yeah?
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Even you hear from the
Australians they talk about
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putting the "shrimp on the
barbie, " right? That's right.
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That's true. So it's
something that's worldwide.
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And none of us can deny
- um-hmm - it tastes good.
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Yes... yes. Barbequed this
or that tastes good. Yeah, yeah.
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So... none of us
will deny that. No.
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At some point we
enjoyed it but we have come into
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a greater light. Amen! So
we want to talk about this
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greater light that
we have experienced
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and we want to share
some of this light with you
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in hopes that you might
find comfort, find some hope
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and also prevent a lot of
the sicknesses and a lot of the
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diseases... 'cause we find that
there is a link with barbequing
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and smoke,
grilling, and so forth.
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And we want to look into the
difference between barbecuing
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and grilling. In
fact, Dr. Jackson, what IS
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the difference? There
is definitely a difference
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between barbequing and grilling.
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Where we find in grilling
on high heat but it's fast
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but the flames do not
come in contact... or the meat
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does not come in contact -
in grilling - with the flames
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and therefore
it's on smoke flames
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not on charcoal and wood.
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Where barbecuing is smoked
meat where the meat is smoked.
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And where we find wood and
charcoal plus the juicing of the
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meat really brings out that
steam and brings out the flavor.
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So grilling? You can
grill vegetables; you can grill
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other non-flesh food.
But barbecuing, remember,
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is smoking the
meat. Aah... and so
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when we're driving around
the city and you see this...
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these plumes of
smoke coming up... yes...
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and sometimes I see
them barbecuing in like a
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almost like a sawed-in-half
- um-hmm, yeah - oil drum
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and they make it into a
grill. The term is a smoker.
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A smoker! That's a
smoker. So intentionally
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trapping the smoke, that's
the kick - keeping it in -
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that's right - and getting that
flavor. And then you can find
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certain woods such as hickory -
um-hmm - that gives the hickory
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flavor... but you've
got to trap it to smoke it.
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Grilling you don't do that.
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It's just a fast, direct-heat
cooking. Do you follow me?
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Uh-huh, uh-huh. So
smoking is what distinguishes
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between those two. Now
I have a sneaky suspicion
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that there's some Bible -
oh, yes - that talks about smoke
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and things like that. I know
you're going to bring that out.
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OK. So we're going to see where
we're going to take this to the
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spiritual because we always
want to bring in the spiritual
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parallels because you
find that as we're talking
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about these physical things
there is a direct correlation
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to our spiritual health.
But let's continue to deal with
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the physical for right
now. What type of things are we
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talking about when we
talk about barbequing?
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Let's just be clear. We're not
talking about vegetables here,
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otherwise wouldn't
be a problem, right?
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Pork. Pork.
That's your main one.
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All your flesh foods: steaks.
You catch the main one like pork
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ribs? Steak... beef... You
know, steak, beef, chicken.
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Community... in our
community we did mostly pork.
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There was pork and then chicken.
There was ribs as far as
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ribs go. Yeah. Barbequed
ribs. Barbequed ribs... that's a
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big thing! That's a big thing.
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And it depends on, you know,
the locale... where you're from.
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But like my wife said, though
we were raised in the Mid West
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such as Chicago, but
folks migrate from the South.
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But during these
holiday seasons - 4th of July,
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Memorial Day - we
had, you know, ribs.
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Um-hmm... pork ribs. Pork
ribs. Now we love barbeque.
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Like you said...
we love barbeque.
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You know, I went more
from pork to beef ribs
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but pork was the
case. And as we understood
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how that was really affecting us
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we had to make some changes.
'Cause we used to travel
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500 miles just to get...
What? We would travel 500 miles
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from another state
back to Chicago to get ribs.
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Barbequed rib
tips. No one can barbeque
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like Chicago... like Chicago.
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Wow! I imagine
there are people out there
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who are... needless
to say: "I don't know. "
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There's like competition now.
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Mississippi, Alabama and Texas
can give it a run for its money.
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You might be right. You
might be right because...
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If you went 500
miles... But I'm just saying
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like people saying: "This is
the best steak in the world! "
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Now we make that statement
because we've never really
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tasted everything in
the world. But I do know
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from our
perspective it was the best
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'cause we checked it out
in one state, another state.
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A few places we
went... but nothing like that.
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But for 500 miles you
had the opportunity to check
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along the way. That's
plenty of miles, right?
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But you're talking
what you know is best.
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Oh no... hold on one second.
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Let's see what Sickness is say-
ing. What do you have going on
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with? I just want to say I
admire that type of dedication.
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People who would drive so
far for a barbeque. But hey,
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let's alleviate people's
concerns because some of us
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will use organic
wood AND organic pork...
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so we're health nuts
just like you! All is well.
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Organic? Organic wood?
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Sickness is sick!
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The 500-mile drive to get some
barbeque was kind of sick too!
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And that's why he...
that's why he gravitates it.
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I played into his
hands! Yes you did.
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You did exactly
that. We're not preachers.
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But thank God
you've had the victory!
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I got the victory
over that! Amen! Amen!
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Reidland, you were
about to say something here.
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Because we've just
touched on how deeply ingrained
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in our culture this is
where we would drive 500 miles
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to get the best ribs or
the best barbeque in the world.
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And you mentioned some of the
states: Mississippi, Alabama,
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Georgia - Texas - Texas,
Florida. All of these states
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are... are... they
love their barbeque.
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You know, we actually
went to a birthday... was it
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birthday? It's a baby
shower... baby shower.
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And even the baby shower
this couple - our neighbor - was
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wanted to grill.
Wanted to barbeque actually.
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You know, to smoke
it and do what he does.
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And you can... The
aroma that comes out...
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it really is...
it smells wonderful!
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That's right. But when
you consider the fact that
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the smoke is almost equivalent
to the exhaust that comes from
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the car - That's right.
What? Carbon monoxide. -
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the carbon monoxide
that comes from that grill
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that smokes your
meat... hydrocarbons. Mercy!
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It's the same thing in the
car. So then you're actually
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just eating the... You
mean the chemicals? By-products?
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The by-products of
that. And it's like smoking.
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Eight pounds... just a
steak. It's like smoking
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six hundred cigarettes. Wow!
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If you never smoked
and you just barbequed
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that steak or that pork on
those charcoal briquettes -
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yes - you might as
well smoke 600 cigarettes.
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And a person
cannot do that in one day.
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So the person who is
eating barbequed meat
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and says: "Well I eat my
meat and I enjoy it but I don't
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smoke! " Yeah.
They're really smoking.
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They smoke; they
smoke. They're really smoking.
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You know, this brings up
a word: carcinogens. Yes.
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Carcinogens. It's not a word
that is familiar with a lot of
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people - right - but we
want to look at that word.
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I'm going to sort of
step into this territory
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by looking at a video. So
lets take a look at this...
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this little news clip and
let's get an understanding of
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carcinogens and what
might be happening as we
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barbeque meat.
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The sizzle, the smoky
flavor, the grill lines.
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Barbequed meats are not
only delicious but healthy too,
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right? Grilling is a
low-fat method of cooking
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but we have to be aware
that it can increase our risk
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of cancer if we eat
grilled meats too often.
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It's true. Those juicy burgers,
especially the charred ones,
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can contain cancer-causing
chemicals called carcinogens.
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When you grill meat,
some of the fat does drip down
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onto the charcoal or the flame.
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And when fat meat's
that really high temperature
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it develops a carcinogen. And
the smoke carries the carcinogen
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back up to the meat which
can be dangerous for our bodies.
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Now before you
get all "fired up"
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there are some
ways to grill safer.
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One way is to simply
avoid burning or searing meats.
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Cooking food longer at
lower temperatures is best.
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To also cut down on carcinogens
you can decrease the amount of
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time that the food is
actually on the grill.
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Pre-cook the meat in either
the oven or in the microwave
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and finish it up on the grill
just to give it a little bit of
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crispness and a
little bit of flavor.
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Another tip:
choose leaner cuts. Wow!
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Now you heard that. They
talked about carcinogens.
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But then that brought up
the other "C" word... cancer.
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Carcinogens equal cancer.
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So while we may have
loved it, maybe have driven
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500 miles, we get... you
know, the waft of that smoke,
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that's very pleasurable.
The smell of barbequing:
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it leads to cancer. Yes.
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Now that's a little
word with a lot of impact
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on a lot of families. And
we're going to do a program
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actually about cancer.
I'm going to talk about that
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in detail. But right
now we're talking about
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something that has
become almost synonymous
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with holidays and
special occasions.
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And we enjoy them,
but we're finding that
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it's leading to
cancer... which is the #2 killer
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in America after heart
disease. After heart disease.
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Worldwide. So the
smoke... the smoke...
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Did you hear what they
said? The smoke? The smoke! Yes.
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When we think about smoke...
You know, they say when there's
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smoke there's fire.
And when I think about fire
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I think about inflammation -
that's right - right? Um-hmm.
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Inflammation. So that's
like burning in the body.
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And if you have a
pro-inflammatory, that means
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you're having an
inflamed situation all the time
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it's going to lead to cancer.
That's right; that's right.
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So let's talk about that.
You know, there's a Bible text,
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Rico, in Psalm 102
verse 3 as you spoke of that.
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Notice what the Word
of God says. It says:
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"For my days are consumed. "
And then it goes on and says:
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"like smoke and my bones
are burned as a hearth. "
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My days are consumed like smoke.
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That smoke from the
barbeque consumes us
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and therefore it does
produce inflammatory condition
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within our body because of
the carcinogens or what we call
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hydrocarbons. And
as brother said here
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it's like - you know - putting
your nose down at the tail pipe
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of your automobile and inhaling
that. Who would do that?
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No one. And even people
say: "Well just a little bit. "
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You know, the Bible says the
little foxes spoil the vineyard.
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And so just a little bit is
enough to create a condition
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in your body for which
we go to the doctor and say:
00:18:09.08\00:18:11.12
"Well I don't know how
I ended up with cancer.
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Doesn't run in my family! "
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But just look how many grills
you have used over the 50 years.
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Now, now... someone would say,
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you know, well...
'cause people are watching this
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and they're thinking. You're
thinking: "Are they telling me
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that I can't barbeque?
That I can't go out and have my
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steak on the barbeque grill
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or have my chicken
on the barbeque grill? "
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Yes we are... if you
want to avoid this issue.
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Now here's the thing:
there's something called
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heterocyclic amine.
Heterocyclic amines, and it
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doesn't matter. If it's meat
it's going to produce that, and
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that is the carcinogen
that we're talking about.
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That's right. Now
what you're saying is...
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someone out there who is
really a more educated consumer
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and really trying to
be more health conscious
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you might be saying:
"Well I use a better choice
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of meat. I use
organic chicken... "
00:19:10.25\00:19:12.28
yeah... "or
free-range this or that,
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organic meats. That makes
a difference, doesn't it? "
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Well it's supposed to make
a difference, but it still has
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the blood in it and
it still has the fat.
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Now remember: it's
the dripping of that fat
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onto those charcoals
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that gives... that emits
and the smoke comes back up
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that causes the problem.
So we want to just encourage
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them if they
want to avoid that...
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Remember in our little
presentation it indicated that
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they should lower the tempera-
ture. Do grill instead of BBQ.
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That's right; that's
right. And then a lot of times
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because of those high tempera-
tures that's what's causing that
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inflammation kind of byproducts.
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And that even
affects your cells.
00:20:00.23\00:20:03.47
It even... It stresses your
cells and it ages them quicker.
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Um-hmm. So not only is
it cancerous, it's actually
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debilitating us from the inside.
And we should mention aging.
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That means there's an
oxidation process. Right.
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If there's aging, there's an
oxidation process. That's right.
00:20:15.81\00:20:17.88
Because of high fat and etc.
dealing with these hydrocarbons,
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the very chemical
that you mentioned.
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Let's put that into perspective
because that's... you're talking
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about cell damage, you're
talking about stress damage
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on the cell or
stress on the cell.
00:20:30.43\00:20:32.56
So just think about how you
feel when your day is just going
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completely wrong and
you are stressed out.
00:20:36.80\00:20:40.14
How that burning feeling in
your gut and you get a headache.
00:20:40.34\00:20:45.57
Can you imagine at the
cellular level - um-hmm -
00:20:45.77\00:20:48.44
trillions of cells are
experiencing that. Um-hmm.
00:20:48.64\00:20:51.91
That's something to think
about, right? That's right!
00:20:52.11\00:20:53.72
Have you ever? And
as the sister mentioned,
00:20:53.92\00:20:56.99
with the aging process...
You see a person who smokes
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a lot? Um-hmm. They
age quickly. That's right.
00:21:00.36\00:21:02.89
The oxidation... the smoking
00:21:03.09\00:21:05.33
that causes that rapid aging.
00:21:05.53\00:21:07.76
And so if we could just go
microscopically at a cellular
00:21:07.96\00:21:10.87
level we see even with
the barbeque, the smoking
00:21:11.07\00:21:14.87
process, it does
the same thing to us.
00:21:15.07\00:21:17.41
Now what we're saying has to
be accurate; it has to be true
00:21:17.61\00:21:21.71
because we're seeing that
there is an increase in cancer.
00:21:21.91\00:21:26.48
There is an increase in
all of these lifestyle diseases
00:21:26.72\00:21:30.52
that we're seeing...
especially among those who
00:21:30.72\00:21:34.09
feel that barbequing
is something they can do
00:21:34.29\00:21:37.23
every couple of
days, every week.
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You know, we would say
temperance would dictate
00:21:40.63\00:21:43.60
that you would do it
every now and then, you know?
00:21:43.80\00:21:46.27
Holidays, or whatever. But
it has become such a part of the
00:21:46.47\00:21:49.54
culture that we're doing
it more than just holidays.
00:21:49.74\00:21:53.78
We're doing it
every opportunity!
00:21:53.98\00:21:55.48
It's kind of a
celebration, you know? Yes.
00:21:55.68\00:21:58.88
There are places you can
just call someone up and say:
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"Hey, we're about to
have a BBQ, " and people will
00:22:01.38\00:22:04.09
show up at your
house. That's right.
00:22:04.29\00:22:06.32
Some of the people you didn't
even invite! That's right.
00:22:06.52\00:22:08.89
Because it's just
something that people enjoy.
00:22:09.89\00:22:12.06
Now let's get to some practical
things that we can talk about
00:22:12.26\00:22:14.43
here - right -
about what people can do.
00:22:14.63\00:22:16.77
I like what you said
Dr. Jackson, Sister Laverne.
00:22:16.97\00:22:19.83
You said that you can
bring it down to a lower heat.
00:22:20.04\00:22:22.90
You also agreed with that.
Talked about in the piece there
00:22:23.10\00:22:25.97
on the clip it said
that you can sort of pre-heat
00:22:26.17\00:22:28.41
the food a little bit, you know.
00:22:28.61\00:22:30.55
So as I see it we
have about four options.
00:22:30.75\00:22:34.15
Number one is if
you're barbequing
00:22:34.35\00:22:37.29
then you want
to stop doing that.
00:22:37.59\00:22:41.39
I know that sounds a little
radical, but if it's causing
00:22:41.59\00:22:44.23
cancer, why play
with cancer? Um-hmm.
00:22:44.43\00:22:46.46
If you've ever seen
someone suffering from cancer,
00:22:46.70\00:22:48.53
it's a major,
major deal. That's right.
00:22:48.73\00:22:51.20
It's a high price to pay.
00:22:51.40\00:22:54.14
Now the second option
is to move or transition
00:22:54.64\00:22:59.64
from barbequing to
what? GRILLING! To grilling.
00:22:59.84\00:23:04.71
And you... I think you
explained that very very nicely
00:23:04.91\00:23:07.62
where we're talking
about not using the smoke.
00:23:07.92\00:23:09.95
You can grill within
your own house, right? Yes!
00:23:10.29\00:23:12.72
I mean, you wouldn't BBQ
inside your house, right?
00:23:12.92\00:23:14.79
That's right. No. Because
the smoke would kill you.
00:23:14.99\00:23:17.73
With that kind of
barbeque you'd be barbequed.
00:23:17.93\00:23:19.26
Right. So and then we're
talking there is a third option.
00:23:20.30\00:23:24.07
You know, we're talking
about grilling things that
00:23:24.27\00:23:27.44
are a healthier option.
We're talking about things
00:23:27.64\00:23:29.67
that are plant based. Is
that right? That's correct.
00:23:29.87\00:23:31.71
Plant based.
There are things that...
00:23:31.91\00:23:33.51
and when we're talking about
plant based we're talking about
00:23:33.91\00:23:35.71
vegetarian, vegan... those
things that have been derived
00:23:36.01\00:23:38.11
from a plant source
not an animal source.
00:23:38.31\00:23:40.32
And you can pick up a lot
of these things from your local
00:23:40.52\00:23:42.62
grocery store. Different
types of vegetarian burgers
00:23:42.82\00:23:46.05
and things like that.
They even have a product
00:23:46.25\00:23:50.03
that's just like chicken.
Gardein I think it's called.
00:23:50.23\00:23:53.90
And this is
something that is plant based.
00:23:54.30\00:23:57.40
It doesn't have
the animal fat in it.
00:23:57.60\00:23:59.30
What else can people do?
00:23:59.50\00:24:00.84
You want to talk
about those vegetables!
00:24:00.94\00:24:02.47
I want to talk... That's the
4th stage. That's the 4th stage.
00:24:02.67\00:24:04.94
Yeah, this is a
transition. It's a transition.
00:24:05.14\00:24:07.11
You don't have to
do it all at once.
00:24:07.31\00:24:08.64
Good, best, better. Right.
00:24:08.74\00:24:10.48
Good, best, or better.
00:24:10.68\00:24:12.01
Better is? Better
is eggplant or squash.
00:24:12.21\00:24:16.62
Um-hmm. Is very
lovely. What else?
00:24:16.82\00:24:20.66
One of my favorites
is Portobello mushrooms.
00:24:20.86\00:24:23.43
You know they're very
large and when you grill them
00:24:23.63\00:24:26.70
they still have that
meaty kind of flavor to them.
00:24:26.90\00:24:29.13
It does have a
meaty kind of texture.
00:24:29.33\00:24:30.67
Yes, they're great. Has
that kind of texture, you know?
00:24:30.70\00:24:32.40
That's true! So
we're talking about
00:24:32.60\00:24:35.17
some good vegetables that
you can grill on the barbie...
00:24:35.37\00:24:37.87
Oh, not on the barbeque...
00:24:38.07\00:24:39.41
Let me be clear: ON THE GRILL!
00:24:39.44\00:24:42.18
You don't have to have the smoke
because there are some that are
00:24:42.38\00:24:44.88
electric. That's
right. Propane... right?
00:24:45.08\00:24:47.32
Is that OK? That safe?
Yes... because remember:
00:24:47.52\00:24:50.59
it is the smoke. That
as you trap that smoke...
00:24:50.79\00:24:52.89
You remember the
little clip you showed
00:24:53.09\00:24:55.02
was very very
clear. It's the smoking
00:24:55.22\00:24:58.56
that causes the carcinogens.
00:24:58.76\00:25:00.90
And when the
smoke gets ingested -
00:25:01.10\00:25:03.67
you eat it and the smoke
gets ingested into your body -
00:25:03.87\00:25:06.40
then it starts to be
spreading out to your cells...
00:25:06.60\00:25:09.17
throughout the cells. Well,
I think we've made the point
00:25:09.37\00:25:12.44
today. It's been very very clear
00:25:12.64\00:25:14.64
that we need to make
these kind of changes.
00:25:14.84\00:25:17.38
You know, on From Sickness To
Health we truly want to take you
00:25:17.68\00:25:20.98
from being sick
to being healthy.
00:25:21.18\00:25:24.09
And so many are
very very healthy
00:25:24.29\00:25:26.59
we dedicate a lot of time
in looking for the best people
00:25:26.79\00:25:29.79
to come and talk to you
about how you can get healthy.
00:25:30.03\00:25:32.53
So we hope that today
you've heard something
00:25:32.73\00:25:34.80
and you're ready
to make that change.
00:25:35.00\00:25:36.43
Until next time, we look
forward to seeing you again on
00:25:36.67\00:25:39.03
From Sickness To Health.
00:25:39.23\00:25:40.57
Psalm 103 verse 2 states:
00:25:44.21\00:25:46.68
"For my days are
consumed like smoke
00:25:46.88\00:25:50.05
and my bones are
burned as a hearth. "
00:25:50.25\00:25:53.62
As we have learned today
smoke gives the signal of
00:25:54.02\00:25:56.99
something else that is going
on and serves as a warning.
00:25:57.19\00:26:00.99
It is widely known
that when there is smoke
00:26:01.39\00:26:04.89
there is fire. And when there
is inflammation in the system
00:26:05.09\00:26:09.40
it can be like
fire in the bones.
00:26:09.70\00:26:13.10
If we are routinely
using smoke to cook our food,
00:26:13.54\00:26:16.94
there will be fire in the bones.
00:26:17.14\00:26:19.71
Well we hope that you have
found this information helpful.
00:26:20.11\00:26:23.75
Even if you find it depressing.
00:26:24.05\00:26:26.45
Health is never depressing!
00:26:27.05\00:26:29.55
It is when a man can't
enjoy a nice, juicy steak
00:26:29.75\00:26:33.02
or a juicy hamburger. Admit
it: sometimes don't you want
00:26:33.22\00:26:36.22
a grilled burger? Nope!
Well how about this one?
00:26:36.42\00:26:41.73
Oh man, get that
thing away from me.
00:26:42.13\00:26:43.57
That'd kill somebody. NO!
00:26:43.77\00:26:45.90
Just make them sick. See? Watch.
00:26:46.10\00:26:47.84
Mmm.
00:26:48.04\00:26:52.11
Friends, smoke can be a
good thing or a bad thing.
00:26:52.81\00:26:56.64
Ideally smoke often signaled the
presence of God in the Bible.
00:26:57.05\00:27:01.28
However, when God's word
or warning was not heeded
00:27:01.68\00:27:04.92
it signaled the
presence of evil.
00:27:05.22\00:27:08.06
In our bodies when we violate
God's perfect plan for us
00:27:08.46\00:27:13.53
an inflamed response in
the system is the result.
00:27:13.73\00:27:17.10
Let's do our best to pray always
00:27:17.40\00:27:20.04
and allow the righteous
smoke of Christ's righteousness
00:27:20.24\00:27:25.14
to make our prayer a
sweet savor unto the Lord.
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Finally: "Beloved, I
wish above all things
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that thou mayest
prosper and be in health. "
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I'm Rico Hill...
and I'm Sickness.
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Maranatha. I tried to warn you.
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