Leviticus 11 is a
powerful chapter in the Bible.
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In verse 2 it reads, "Speak
unto the children of Israel,
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saying, these are the
beasts which ye shall eat
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among all the beasts
that are on the earth."
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It goes on to mention the camel
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the coney which is
a rabbit, the hare,
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the swine and it says,
"They are unclean to you."
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Leviticus 11 is
a powerful chapter.
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Hello, I'm Rico Hill, the host
of "From Sickness to Health"
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and this is--
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you all right?
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Yeah, I'm just
feeling little sick.
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Well, okay a-- wait a minute,
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you go by the name sickness
and you're feeling sick.
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Yes, so?
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I'm just saying
the irony, all right.
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Something I ate
went down the wrong way.
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Okay, stay there,
I'll get you some water,
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some water all right.
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No, no, no I've
already tried that.
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All right, all right,
let's try this, try this.
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Here you go.Here
you go. Here you go.
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Ready?
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One, two, three.
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Oh, man, what is that?
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That was dinner.
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That shrimp?
That's unclean food.
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Man, you're eating unclean food.
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Oh, that is not unclean.
I washed him thoroughly.
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Oh, man, you need to
read to read Leviticus 11.
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No, I don't want to hear it.
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I love shrimp, lobster
crab, anything creepy crawling.
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All right, fine.
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If you haven't guessed already,
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today's topic is
clean and unclean food.
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Roll it.
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Hey, which way did it go?
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It ran off over there somewhere.
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Ran off?
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Roll it.
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Hello, and thank
you for joining us
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here in the studio of
"From Sickness to Health."
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You know me I'm Rico
Hill, but today I've someone
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you may not have met but
you are going to be happy
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that you met him
because he's gonna share
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some wonderful
information with us.
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It is our good
friend, Dr. Milton Mills,
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who is a physician
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and he is a part
of the critical care
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unit of the United Medical
Center in Washington, DC,
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that's my own town.
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He is the associate director
of preventative medicine
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and that is for the
Physicians Committee
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for Responsible Medicine.
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That means that he's
going around lecturing,
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not only is he
caring for patients,
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but he is also educating them,
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and that's a big part
of what we do here on,
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"From Sickness to Health,"
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because we want to see you
go from sickness to health.
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Welcome to the
program, Dr. Mills.
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I'm happy to be here, Rico.
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You know, we're
talking about something today
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that a lot of people,
they read their Bibles,
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they have studied things
but they miss this point.
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And we're talking
about clean and unclean foods
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or clean and unclean
meats to be more specific.
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And today we're gonna
break this whole thing down.
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We're gonna get ridof the
myths and the misconceptions,
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that we're gonna get to what,
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not only as science
says what a good responsible
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preventative positions would say
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but we're gonna look
at what God says as well,
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as we always do.
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So hang around we're
gonna take a look at,
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what our friend
sickness has to say about it
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because we want to
be balanced, don't we.
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So, let's see what's sickness
has to say about this subject.
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Thank you, Rico.
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I'm preparing an
exquisite dinner tonight,
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for some of my frenemies,
a group of health nuts.
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They only eat clean
and local organic non--
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I don't even know.
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It's kind of
annoying to be honest.
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Vegans, vegetarians,
they annoy me a lot.
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So anyway, I'm
trying to be creative,
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it's much harder to be
sick when you're vegetarian.
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So I've got to do some things
that I would not otherwise do.
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I'm gonna make some
greens which is good for you.
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But I'm gonna
add in a little bit
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of pig feed for
flavor, which is nice.
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And also, oh, I'm going to add
some shrimp and some lobster.
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That's gonna be great.
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And then last but not least,
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I'm making some
vegetarian rice patties
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but I'm using
crab sauce for flavor.
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It's going to be great.
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You know, vegetarian they
think they're pretty smart,
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but not all of
them read the labels.
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That's how I get them.
Lard, oh, that's a great one.
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You know, lard is pork-fat,
not a lot of people know that.
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Sneaky, I know. So
anyway, that's what I do.
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I've sent out invitations
to all my health nut friends.
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They're coming
expecting this great meal
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and I'm gonna
make sure it's amazing.
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You know, one last ingredient,
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I had to consider
is, you got to make sure,
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some of these guys are
technically not unclean.
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So I'm gonna scrub
them down real nice.
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Back to you, Rico.
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So shrimp, lobster, lard.
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So let's start out by what's
the Book of Leviticus tells us
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that there're some issues.
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God says there's an issue
with eating certain foods.
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He deems them unclean to us,
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as we saw in the
opening of the program.
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But let's hear from you.
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What's wrong with lobster?
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What's wrong with
shrimp? What's wrong with pork?
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Okay.
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Well, first of
all as a physician
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I just have to point out that
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that chapter in
Leviticus makes it clear
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that God actually wanted
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the Israelites
to be plant eaters,
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but they demanded meat.
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And that upset Him because
that wasn't His original plan.
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Genesis makes it clear
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that He designed us
to be pure plant eaters.
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When He brought
them out of Egypt
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he fed them only with manna,
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which Psalms 78 describes being
as being the corn of heaven--
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Angels' food.
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Angels' food, absolutely.
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But the
Israelites demanded flesh
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because they were so
addicted to eating animal flesh
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from their the time
that they spent in Egypt
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and we can do-- You
can, maybe, at some point
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do another
program on why animal--
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eating animal
flesh is so addictive.
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But that's for another time.
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But they were addicted to
it. So God said, "Okay, fine.
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If you're going to eat
it, there are certain types
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that you can eat but other
types you can never touch."
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Under no circumstances.
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Under no circumstances.
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And so He gave them a list
of the clean and the unclean.
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But wait a minute now.
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That's the Law of
Moses that's found in,
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you know, the Old Testament.
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And that's what
people would say.
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No, that's not true.
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The concept of
clean versus unclean
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existed from the very beginning
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because Noah took the clean
animals into the Ark by sevens
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and the unclean, he
only took in by twos.
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And that was because one,
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the clean animals
were to be used both,
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for sacrifice and
temporarily for food
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because all of the vegetation
was going to be destroyed
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post flood and it
need time to regenerate.
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But the unclean
were never to be eaten.
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Oh, wait, wait, wait so
there was a specific purpose
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for the unclean one so
there's must have been"
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because God said,
"Take them onto the boat."
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Right.
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So there's must have
been-- So what is the purpose,
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if we are not
supposed to eat them,
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what are we supposed
to do with the shrimp
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and the lobster and the crab.
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People love their crab.
You're from the Maryland area.
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They say, you know, crab
lovers is Maryland, right.
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Right.
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They are designed to
clean up the environment.
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Any dead thing that floats
to the bottom of the ocean
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crabs will immediate-- crabs,
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lobsters will immediately
gravitate towards that dead
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whatever it is
and begin to eat it.
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And they essentially
clean it up by ingesting it.
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That's there job.
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Mussels and clams
will actually filter
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waste material out of the water.
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You can actually take raw sewage
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and pass it over a
bed of oyster and mussels
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and it will come out
crystal clear at the other end.
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Why?
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Because they actually filter
all of that organic material
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out of the water
and they consume it.
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That's their job.
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That's what they
are designed to do.
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They do it very well
but if you then turn around
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and ingest their tissues
you are in essence eating
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fickle material,
which is disgusting.
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When you said raw sewage,
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that's what you
were talking about.
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That's exactly
what I'm talking about.
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So we find now
that a lot of the sewage
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for whatever reason is finding
its way into our waterways.
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Is that correct?
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And that's so-- that's exactly
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what our sewage
treatment plants do.
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They take the raw sewage,
we flush down our toilets,
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emulsify it and it
goes out into the waterways,
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the shellfish actually take
that stuff, they consume it,
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clear the water and
they actually incorporate
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the sewage into their tissues.
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That's what
they're designed to do.
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That is the way God designed
them to clean the environment.
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So God had a design to
actually clean our waterways,
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so that they would be safe?
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Absolutely.
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But we find that
He also had a design
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to how to clean the land.
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We're talking about the
swine or the pork, pigs.
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They were the land animals.
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They were part
of those two by two
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that were taken onto the Ark.
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And their job was to clean
up all the mess, wasn't it.
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Yes, it was.
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Let's see if--
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And yes, it is.
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And yes, it is.
Still currently, right.
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Yes.
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So let's see, let's
take a look at this news clip
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and maybe we can get
some further insights;
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was God right?
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Let's see. Sure.
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A big consumer
report study found
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a high rate of
contamination in pork chops
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and ground pork
from a kind of bacteria
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that continued to
the emergency room.
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ABC's Dr. Richard Besser
brings us the whole picture.
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You don't know its
name, but you may be
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one of the hundred
thousand Americans,
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who get sick each year
from a bacteria called Yersinia.
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And today's study explains why.
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Consumer reports tested pork
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the types you buy
in the supermarket
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including pork
chops and ground pork.
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They found that nearly
70 percent of the samples
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they tested had the dangerous
bacteria Yersinia on them.
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Ground pork turned out to be
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even more risky than pork chops.
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This should be a wake up
call to the American public.
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What are we doing
in terms of monitoring
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the safety of pork and
what can we do in future?
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Wow, you know, there's something
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that stood out to me
about that clip doctor
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is that you heard the
response from the woman.
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She said, we have to
do something to monitor
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the safety of, you know,
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what can we do to
make it more safe,
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basically is
what she was saying.
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But when you're saying
numbers like 68 percent of,
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like, some of the pork chop,
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the chops inand 74
percent of the ground pork
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having this bacteria Yersinia,
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and it's causing
all these health issues.
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I mean, it's a
waste of time, isn't it.
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Because God
insists, you can't eat it.
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Let's talk about the pig.
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He said, "Don't touch it."
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And it's amazing to
me that the response
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of the sort of
health department is,
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well, this stuff is
loaded with dangerous bacteria.
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So let's try and
monitor the food to--
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try and catch
it before it kills.
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I mean, that's crazy.
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We shouldn't be
eating it in the first place.
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This stuff is riven with these
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very dangerous
types of bacteria.
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Furthermore, the--
it's a kind of worm
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that everybody knows
about is still present in pork,
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which is why it
is always recommended
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that you cook pork to
very high temperatures
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in order to kill it.
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Now in this country we
don't see a lot of the problem
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that comes from
eating undercooked pork,
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which is a brain
infection called cysticercosis,
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which is where people get
these cysts in their brains,
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which can cause seizures
00:13:04.03\00:13:05.45
and in certain cases even death.
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But we do see it
from-- in people coming
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from other countries like Mexico
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and certain
Latin-American countries--
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And I just jump in for a second.
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I was with one of my
doctor friends this past weekend
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and we were talking
about the trichina worm,
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the trichinosis that finds
it way into people's bodies
00:13:21.84\00:13:25.06
and even lodges in their brains.
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And we actually
show a clip ordinarily
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but we're not
going to show that one
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it would be too
much for you to handle
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but we have an operation
of someone actually having--
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They thought the women had
a brain tumor only to go in
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and they found the worm.
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It had grown to a
couple of inches in size.
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And they had to remove
it and it was still alive.
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This is the thing.
00:13:47.31\00:13:48.35
But the cysticercosis
you're talking about,
00:13:48.38\00:13:51.27
this doctor shared
with us this past weekend
00:13:51.30\00:13:53.40
that there's almost 90
percent of his surgeries,
00:13:53.43\00:13:58.39
they're seeing
it in his patients.
00:13:58.42\00:14:00.61
Right.
00:14:00.64\00:14:01.68
So it's happening.
This is becoming pervasive.
00:14:01.71\00:14:03.48
Right, this is
still very prevalent.
00:14:03.51\00:14:05.99
So it's the trichina worm,
it's the Yersinia and then,
00:14:06.02\00:14:11.49
you know, there's this campaign
in the pork industry to try
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and pass pork off as white meat.
00:14:15.45\00:14:17.95
They say pork,
the other white meat.
00:14:17.98\00:14:20.31
That is-- That's
marketing, isn't it?
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Yeah, that is marketing
because it's an absolute lie.
00:14:21.65\00:14:25.16
The leanest cuts
of pork you can buy
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are still over 50
percent fat by calories.
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So pork is extremely high in fat
00:14:32.46\00:14:35.32
and that is very unhealthy.
00:14:35.35\00:14:37.70
It will raise your
risk for heart disease,
00:14:37.73\00:14:40.41
number of cancers and
other health problems,
00:14:40.44\00:14:43.66
as well as, dealing
with all of these infections
00:14:43.69\00:14:46.06
that we're talking about.
00:14:46.10\00:14:47.43
So again God
said don't touch it.
00:14:47.46\00:14:50.26
He knew what He
was talking about
00:14:50.29\00:14:51.96
because this is
very unhealthy food.
00:14:51.99\00:14:55.63
Okay, let's make
this very practical
00:14:55.66\00:14:57.56
because in lot of communities,
certainly in our community,
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I mean we come from and I mean,
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you're working in the
same place where I grew up.
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So we have a large
African-American community,
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we have a large Hispanic
community in our cities.
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And some of the
foods that we just love,
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absolutely tied to
tradition is soul food.
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And in soul food we are
talking about fried foods.
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Fry this, fry that.
00:15:23.19\00:15:24.53
But let's break it
down, let's be very practical
00:15:24.56\00:15:27.40
because people are hearing
this and there're saying,
00:15:27.43\00:15:29.65
oh, they're
talking about my food.
00:15:29.68\00:15:31.97
Well, we are talking
about, we talked about shrimp,
00:15:32.00\00:15:34.01
we talked about
crab lovers, very toxic,
00:15:34.04\00:15:37.33
we are talking about lobsters,
we won't find that as much
00:15:37.37\00:15:40.00
but still we have our
version the shrimp version,
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the tiny version of the lobster.
00:15:43.08\00:15:44.82
But we're talking about
pork in all of its form.
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Bacon, ham, talking
about, what else, ham,--
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Chitterlings,
meatballs, oxtails.
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I don't want to go there
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but we just went
there, chitterlings,
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but it's something, it's real.
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And this we're
talking about the intestines,
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the pig intestines.
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And this is
something that coming up,
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you know, in months to come,
00:16:08.78\00:16:10.58
we're gonna see
lots of it for new years
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and all these
different holidays.
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People bring out
their chitterlings
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and we're
talking about something
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that is so
dangerous for us to eat.
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Absolutely, first of
all it's notsoul food,
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its plantation food
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because West
Africans don't eat this way.
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Traditional West
Africans did not include
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these kinds of
foods in their diet.
00:16:31.50\00:16:33.02
And the reason why
you're saying West Africans
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is because most African-American
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who have come here
came from the western part--
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West Africa, that's where,
the slaves were obtained--
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But that's not their diet.
00:16:42.71\00:16:43.93
That's not their
traditional diet.
00:16:43.97\00:16:45.92
What happened was
when these West Africans
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were brought to the
American plantations
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they were
literally forced to eat
00:16:50.92\00:16:53.18
the garbage of the plantation.
00:16:53.21\00:16:55.04
So that's why they were forced
to eat the entrails of the pig,
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the pig's feet,
its ears, its tails,
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the ox, the cow's
neck bones, the cow's tail.
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All of these
things were the things
00:17:07.78\00:17:10.02
that they would
ordinarily throw away
00:17:10.05\00:17:11.89
but instead of
throwing them away
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they fed them to the slaves.
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Unfortunately, when
the slaves are freed,
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they turned around and owned
00:17:17.63\00:17:19.34
what is essentially a
dietary wastage of slavery.
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And we know that these
foods are higher in cholesterol,
00:17:23.08\00:17:26.67
higher in fat, cause
excess rates of disease
00:17:26.70\00:17:30.33
and are very unhealthy.
00:17:30.36\00:17:31.95
And we need to reject
these foods and get back
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to what is our true dietary
heritage and that is a low fat,
00:17:35.55\00:17:40.14
plant based diet
that does not include
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these very unhealthy
dietary echoes of slavery past.
00:17:43.11\00:17:49.54
Now, you know, some would say,
00:17:49.57\00:17:50.73
well, it tastes so good.
00:17:50.76\00:17:52.09
First of all, it taste,
00:17:52.12\00:17:53.59
we've been eating it
for years and, you know,--
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Let me just play
the advocate here.
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Sure.
00:17:58.38\00:17:59.41
They'll say, well, you know,
00:17:59.44\00:18:00.47
we've been eating
this way for years.
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Right.
00:18:01.63\00:18:02.82
Grandma ate this way. Right.
00:18:02.85\00:18:04.13
And she lived
to be 85 years old.
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And--
00:18:07.62\00:18:09.07
But what was wrong
with grandma up to 85.
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That's, that's exactly
right. Grandma couldn't walk.
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She, you know, had
diabetes, she had heart disease,
00:18:13.54\00:18:18.07
she probably had cataracts.
00:18:18.10\00:18:19.41
And my point is,
if she lived to be 85,
00:18:19.44\00:18:22.82
abusing herself, she probably
would have lived to be 105,
00:18:22.85\00:18:26.96
if she had
taken care of herself.
00:18:26.99\00:18:28.52
The other point is this,
nobody ask for fried chicken,
00:18:28.55\00:18:32.74
a pork chop or chitterlings
in the delivery room.
00:18:32.77\00:18:36.59
Everything we think we
like we had to learn to like.
00:18:36.62\00:18:40.60
Babies are born
without preferences.
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They have to be taught to
like these unhealthy foods.
00:18:43.08\00:18:46.83
And just like we learned
to like unhealthy things,
00:18:46.86\00:18:50.79
we can unlearn those bad habits
00:18:50.82\00:18:52.89
and learn to like
things that are good for us
00:18:52.92\00:18:55.43
and that actually promote
00:18:55.46\00:18:56.92
and preserve our health
as oppose to destroying it.
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Perfect, perfect.
00:19:00.84\00:19:01.89
You know what, as
always we wanted not only hear
00:19:01.92\00:19:04.63
what you have to say,
00:19:04.66\00:19:06.01
we've heard the side of sickness
00:19:06.04\00:19:07.75
where he gives his
point of view, you know,
00:19:07.78\00:19:09.73
in a sort of provocative way
to stimulate the conversation.
00:19:09.76\00:19:13.12
We've looked at the
news clip and we've seen,
00:19:13.15\00:19:15.46
you know, that in
the news clip it's clear.
00:19:15.49\00:19:19.67
God said don't touch
it and we're seeing that
00:19:19.70\00:19:21.99
it has dangerous bacteria.
00:19:22.02\00:19:23.58
So let's take a look
00:19:23.61\00:19:25.33
at what people are
saying on the streets.
00:19:25.36\00:19:27.33
Because that's going to be
important for our conversation
00:19:27.36\00:19:29.05
and I think our
audience needs to hear it.
00:19:29.08\00:19:30.16
Absolutely.
00:19:30.19\00:19:31.26
What they think
because other people
00:19:31.29\00:19:32.38
on the street are
saying the same things.
00:19:32.41\00:19:33.47
So let's take a look.
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All right, I'm
here with my man Mark.
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Mark, what do you
think about, you ever heard
00:19:39.09\00:19:40.55
that discussion on
clean and unclean food?
00:19:40.58\00:19:43.22
Oh, yeah.
00:19:43.25\00:19:44.53
Oh, yeah, he knows
what he's talking about.
00:19:44.56\00:19:45.59
All right, so
let's talk about lobster.
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You've ever heard
of lobster? Oh, yeah.
00:19:46.87\00:19:48.37
You like lobster. Yeah.
00:19:48.40\00:19:49.46
What do you like about it?
00:19:49.49\00:19:50.52
Oh, the look of it, the taste,
00:19:50.55\00:19:54.13
did you see a lobster
tail with some butter?
00:19:54.16\00:19:57.16
Oh, man, man, you're making me
00:19:57.19\00:19:58.62
what to eat some
lobsters right now.
00:19:58.65\00:20:00.55
All right, what about
shrimps, the jumbo shrimp,
00:20:00.58\00:20:02.88
pickle shrimp,
00:20:02.91\00:20:04.26
cocktail shrimp?
00:20:04.29\00:20:05.36
Coconut shrimp.
00:20:05.39\00:20:06.43
I don't like
shrimp, I like shrimp.
00:20:06.46\00:20:07.86
There we go.
00:20:07.89\00:20:08.94
I can do a
grill, I can do a saute.
00:20:08.97\00:20:11.05
And so a whole lot
of different shrimps.
00:20:11.08\00:20:12.70
Crab right here. Good stuff.
00:20:12.73\00:20:15.96
So here's the argument.
00:20:15.99\00:20:17.62
Some people say that
lobsters are unclean.
00:20:17.65\00:20:21.51
What would you
say to that person?
00:20:21.54\00:20:23.88
Lobster is delicious.
00:20:23.91\00:20:25.93
Lobster is
delicious. I love this lady.
00:20:25.96\00:20:30.22
I don't know.
00:20:30.25\00:20:31.32
He doesn't know
that's okay. Lobster.
00:20:31.35\00:20:33.14
What do you think of lobster?
00:20:33.17\00:20:34.73
Awesome, tasty.
00:20:34.76\00:20:36.05
Awesome, tasty.
00:20:36.08\00:20:37.37
What do you think about
00:20:37.40\00:20:38.50
this whole debate
with religious people
00:20:38.53\00:20:39.89
and a lot of
groups in the world,
00:20:39.92\00:20:41.30
clean and unclean foods?
00:20:41.33\00:20:42.94
You ever heard that argument?
00:20:42.97\00:20:45.48
Heard clean and unclean foods
00:20:45.51\00:20:46.92
but not associated with
religious group, I mean.
00:20:46.95\00:20:49.65
Well, all right, when you
say clean foods and unclean.
00:20:49.68\00:20:52.10
Give me an example of
what people call unclean food.
00:20:52.13\00:20:55.56
Oh, anything that's taken out
of its ripped processed foods.
00:20:55.59\00:21:00.81
Yeah, exactly.
00:21:00.84\00:21:01.90
So if I take a
lobster and I wash it,
00:21:01.93\00:21:03.44
its clean, right.
00:21:03.47\00:21:04.59
Yeah.
00:21:04.62\00:21:05.73
Yeah, it's clean.
That's exactly right.
00:21:05.76\00:21:07.75
Rico, the unclean
meat eaters have spoken.
00:21:07.78\00:21:11.87
Back to you.
00:21:11.90\00:21:12.97
There you have
it. They don't know.
00:21:15.52\00:21:17.36
No.
00:21:17.39\00:21:18.45
They don't know
they are, you know,
00:21:18.48\00:21:20.54
they're walking
blindly in a world
00:21:20.57\00:21:22.77
where God is trying to keep
us on a narrow path of health
00:21:22.80\00:21:26.63
but anything and everything
is out there for consumption
00:21:26.66\00:21:30.92
and yet it's making
us sick, isn't it doctor.
00:21:30.95\00:21:33.15
Yes, it is.
00:21:33.18\00:21:34.22
You know, when
my patients tell me,
00:21:34.25\00:21:35.58
oh, I love shrimp,
I've to explain them.
00:21:35.61\00:21:37.76
I say, "You
know, a shrimp is just
00:21:37.80\00:21:39.87
a big ocean growing cockroach."
00:21:39.91\00:21:41.82
What?
00:21:41.85\00:21:42.89
Yes, that's exactly what it is.
00:21:42.92\00:21:44.83
It does in the ocean
what cockroaches do on land.
00:21:44.86\00:21:48.38
It runs around
eating all the garbage.
00:21:48.41\00:21:50.61
Scavengers.
00:21:50.64\00:21:51.69
That's exactly right. So--
00:21:51.72\00:21:53.20
And that's what is designed
to do and it does it very well.
00:21:53.23\00:21:56.26
But if you
want-- you wouldn't dare
00:21:56.29\00:21:59.34
touch a cockroach on land,
00:21:59.37\00:22:00.94
why you want to
eat one from the ocean.
00:22:00.97\00:22:02.03
I don't even want
to think about it.
00:22:02.06\00:22:03.36
Exactly.
00:22:03.39\00:22:04.59
Now, you know,
what comes to my mind
00:22:04.62\00:22:06.81
to bring it back to God
00:22:06.84\00:22:08.76
and His
designed and His purpose.
00:22:08.79\00:22:10.87
What was God's purpose?
00:22:10.90\00:22:11.93
I think that's where
we need to start to go
00:22:11.96\00:22:13.78
because when I
consider that God had a purpose
00:22:13.81\00:22:16.87
for these animals,
for these creatures.
00:22:16.90\00:22:19.29
He has a purpose for our bodies.
00:22:19.32\00:22:21.30
In fact, I'm reminded
of Psalm 100:3, it says,
00:22:21.33\00:22:26.49
"Know ye not that
the Lord he is God,
00:22:26.52\00:22:30.82
it is he that have made
us, and not we ourselves,
00:22:30.85\00:22:35.51
we are his people, and
the sheep of his pasture."
00:22:35.54\00:22:38.54
Amen.
00:22:38.57\00:22:39.62
Psalm 100:3. So God wants
us to know that He made us.
00:22:39.65\00:22:44.70
And He goes even
further and says,
00:22:44.73\00:22:46.34
"You didn't make yourself."
00:22:46.37\00:22:48.59
So if God knows
us and He made us,
00:22:48.62\00:22:52.49
He should know what will happen
00:22:52.52\00:22:54.91
when we put things into our
body, not unlike the shrimp,
00:22:54.94\00:22:58.73
the crab, the
clams, the oysters.
00:22:58.76\00:23:02.37
When we put them into our body,
00:23:02.40\00:23:03.43
they're toxic and
He knew it, didn't He?
00:23:03.46\00:23:05.22
Yes, He did.
00:23:05.25\00:23:06.33
And also, I read
earlier that-- oh,
00:23:06.36\00:23:09.45
we talked about earlier the--
00:23:09.48\00:23:11.52
how God designed this
body for plant based diet
00:23:11.55\00:23:14.14
and then there was emergency
diet that God brought in.
00:23:14.17\00:23:17.49
And that was--
it was flesh foods,
00:23:17.52\00:23:20.19
but He says the
blood, I'm going to--
00:23:20.22\00:23:22.67
It's going to
require your lives.
00:23:22.70\00:23:23.97
Now, you know,
what I've heard, doctor?
00:23:24.00\00:23:26.26
When sharing that information,
00:23:26.29\00:23:27.71
you know, what people say?
00:23:27.74\00:23:28.81
Well, I am a New
Testament Christian.
00:23:28.84\00:23:33.64
All those things
don't matter to me
00:23:33.67\00:23:35.68
because you brought
those from the Old Testament.
00:23:35.71\00:23:39.42
Now what's wrong with blood
00:23:39.45\00:23:41.03
and then I like to
take a look at scripture.
00:23:41.06\00:23:42.98
What's the problem
with the blood of animals?
00:23:43.01\00:23:46.00
Well, first of all,
it's full of iron and again--
00:23:46.03\00:23:49.07
That's not a bad
thing, we need iron.
00:23:49.10\00:23:50.14
Yes, no, not a lot of it
00:23:50.17\00:23:52.46
because science
is now telling us
00:23:52.49\00:23:54.37
that excess iron
promotes disease.
00:23:54.40\00:23:57.89
It promotes cancer,
it promotes infection,
00:23:57.92\00:24:01.51
it promotes auto immune disease.
00:24:01.54\00:24:04.48
When you get too much
iron it causes disease
00:24:04.51\00:24:08.23
because iron is like a match.
00:24:08.26\00:24:11.49
It's a catalyst, it--
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its like-- it would
be like having boxes
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and boxes of matches
stored in your living room.
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You wouldn't dare do that.
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Yeah, you want to
have maybe a box of matches
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to light your fireplace,
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but you wouldn't want matches
stacked up to the rafters
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because it will
start a fire eventually.
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And that same thing
happens in your body
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when you have too much iron.
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It causes runaway
inflammatory disease.
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Inflammation. Yes.
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Which is a
precursor to scar tissuing.
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Well, and to all
sorts of conditions.
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Heart disease,
cancer, infection,
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auto immune problems.
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So all these things are gonna
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lead to dangerous
lifestyle diseases that--
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And premature death.
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And premature death.
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Now I want to just--
I want to read something
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from the Book of Acts
15:20, for those who would say
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wait, wait, wait,
wait that's Old Testament,
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I'll allow you to comment.
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It says here in
Acts 15:20, it says,
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"But that we write unto them,
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that they abstain
from pollutions of idols,
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and from fornication,
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and from things
strangled, and from blood."
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So that excessive iron
that you are talking about,
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God knew it, He
said, it's too much.
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Absolutely.
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And it'll lead to
dangerous ifestyle diseases.
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But also protein, protein
that is found in the meats
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and in the tissue and
talk about that a little bit
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before we run out of time.
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We've got just
about a minute and half.
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Sure. Animal protein has
been shown over and over again
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to raise levels of
what would-- hormones
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that are called IGF-1, IGF-2,
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which stands for Insulin-
like Growth Factor-1 and 2.
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The higher the levels of these,
of IGF-1 and 2 in your body,
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the greater your
risk of developing
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various types of cancers.
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Also of developing diabetes
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and a number of other
inflammatory conditions
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that again lead to disease.
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So again, animal protein
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is actually toxic to our system,
00:26:14.71\00:26:17.80
whereas plant proteins
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actually are very
beneficial to our system.
00:26:19.55\00:26:21.90
Animal proteins tend to
promote atherosclerosis,
00:26:21.93\00:26:24.82
plants proteins don't.
00:26:24.85\00:26:26.38
Plant proteins actually
benefit our immune system,
00:26:26.41\00:26:29.31
animal proteins tends to down
regulate your immune system.
00:26:29.34\00:26:33.65
And that's not a good thing,
00:26:33.68\00:26:34.80
because your immune
system is your police force.
00:26:34.83\00:26:37.41
It's what guards your
body against infection,
00:26:37.44\00:26:40.11
guards your body
against tumor formation.
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You need a healthy,
robust immune system.
00:26:42.63\00:26:46.83
I tell, you know, what it just
sorts of opens my mind up to.
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You mentioned diabetes,
00:26:50.30\00:26:51.64
we're gonna have
to have you back.
00:26:51.67\00:26:53.06
And come back and talk
about diabetes in this context.
00:26:53.09\00:26:56.75
This has been a
fascinating discussion
00:26:56.78\00:26:59.76
with Dr. Milton Mills
00:26:59.79\00:27:01.01
as we've been talking
about clean and unclean meats
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but also the
blood that's in meat
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and why we we love it so much.
00:27:05.46\00:27:07.68
Now this has been a
greater context for you
00:27:07.71\00:27:10.23
I hope in terms
of, seeing the things
00:27:10.26\00:27:13.15
in your own family
the cancer, the diabetes.
00:27:13.18\00:27:15.65
But we're gonna come back
00:27:15.68\00:27:16.71
and we're gonna talk
about this some more.
00:27:16.74\00:27:18.03
So tune in the next time
on "From Sickness to Health."
00:27:18.06\00:27:21.90
Thank you Dr. Milton Mills,
00:27:21.93\00:27:23.78
we appreciate it
and we'll see you again.
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I remember when eating
clean and unclean foods
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became very, very
real to our family.
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We were just eating
the things that we loved
00:27:33.96\00:27:35.57
and we won't be
thinking about it.
00:27:35.60\00:27:36.80
We didn't care, we
didn't know any better,
00:27:36.83\00:27:38.17
we were just enjoying our food.
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It tastes great so
what was the problem?
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But there was this time,
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I was about eight-years-old
and we had a certain pork item
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and the entire
family, all eight of us
00:27:46.80\00:27:49.59
became so incredibly sick.
00:27:49.62\00:27:53.04
I've not had
pork since that day.
00:27:53.07\00:27:54.94
Now today we've shared with you
00:27:54.97\00:27:57.02
that which is clean
and that which is unclean--
00:27:57.05\00:27:59.43
Hey, yeah, but what
about bacon? What about bacon?
00:27:59.46\00:28:03.04
If it comes from
a pig it's unclean.
00:28:03.07\00:28:05.61
Yeah, but it tastes so good.
00:28:05.64\00:28:06.92
It is not about taste,
00:28:06.95\00:28:08.06
it's about what
the Word of God says.
00:28:08.09\00:28:10.11
See, that's where
you go this old Leviticus
00:28:10.14\00:28:12.77
and Old Testament
stuff totally wrong.
00:28:12.80\00:28:15.55
When people are
offered a BLT can't resist it.
00:28:15.58\00:28:18.77
Jumbo shrimp,
lobsters all in one,
00:28:18.80\00:28:20.96
people are gonna eat
what there're gonna eat.
00:28:20.99\00:28:23.06
And we're going to
keep informing them
00:28:23.09\00:28:25.13
about what is
good, what is healthy
00:28:25.16\00:28:27.28
and that which
will do you the best.
00:28:27.31\00:28:29.57
What about barbeque snake chops?
00:28:29.60\00:28:32.11
Its-- what? It's out.
00:28:32.14\00:28:33.86
Yeah, you know, you
put it on the grill,
00:28:33.89\00:28:35.11
the fire seems to
somehow eliminate all--
00:28:35.14\00:28:37.58
It's unclean, it's unclean.
00:28:37.61\00:28:38.93
About tofu and armadillo?
00:28:38.96\00:28:40.21
Armadillo?
00:28:40.24\00:28:41.27
Well, see the tofu balances out
the leprosy in the armadillo.
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You know what, now
you're just being silly.
00:28:44.40\00:28:46.15
Here's the thing,
the laws of health
00:28:46.18\00:28:48.21
are like any other laws.
00:28:48.24\00:28:49.42
If they are broken
there're are consequences.
00:28:49.45\00:28:51.04
The Psalm as David says
00:28:51.07\00:28:52.29
"we are fearfully
and wonderfully made."
00:28:52.32\00:28:55.47
Look, God did not give
us the Book of Leviticus
00:28:55.50\00:28:58.63
for bunch of
restrictions and rules.
00:28:58.66\00:29:00.71
He did it because He loves us,
and He wants us to be healthy.
00:29:00.74\00:29:03.49
Rules and restrictions.
00:29:03.52\00:29:05.34
Anyway that's our
program for today.
00:29:05.37\00:29:07.77
I leave you with this 3 John 2,
00:29:07.80\00:29:09.51
"Beloved, I
wish above all things
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that thou mayest
prosper and be in health."
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