Welcome to "For Guys Only,"
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a program that
deals with a topic
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specifically
targeted for the urban man.
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I'm Pastor William Lee,
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and I'm so thankful
that you've joined us today.
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I want to encourage you
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as we go into our
broadcast and make sure that
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your children are around,
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because we're going
to deal with a subject
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that is so critical again,
ministering to urban youth.
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Gentlemen, thank you all so much
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for being here once again.
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We have been
covering topics that,
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I mean, are just been so rich,
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as relates to
ministry and to the urban man.
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I want to begin this
program we've done before
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and just begin
with a word of prayer.
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So, Muta, would you pray
for us as we get started today?
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Yes. Let's pray.
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Our Father God,
we just thank You
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for being here again today.
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I pray that Your Holy
Spirit may just guide the words
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that are coming out
of our mouths, Lord.
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Let them, let insight come out
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and let it be all to
Your honor and glory.
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In Christ's name we pray.
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Amen. Amen. Good.
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Just, you know, as
a quick introduction,
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we have with us Brandon Dent,
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which is a retired
business executive,
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worked for a number of years
in the automotive industry.
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And now you're also,
you own your own company.
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That's right.
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And it's good to
have you, Brandon.
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Dr. King, a pleasure as always,
you are a clinical psychologist
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as I understand,
and you've also been
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a trained theologian
at one point as well.
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And we are thankful for you.
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Muta as well, praise
God for you being here.
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I know you work with a
ministry called Elijah 3.
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Yes.
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That specifically deals
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with ministering to urban youth.
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Yes.
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So we are looking
definitely for insight today.
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Young people
face major challenges
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in our world today.
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As we talk about
ministering to them, myself,
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you know, I've
pastored young people
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for several years now.
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And I know, I
know the challenges
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that they're facing right now.
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Let's begin to have a dialogue,
trying to, kind of, you know,
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talking about these
challenges, and then ways that
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we can effectively
minister to them today.
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Dr. King, kind of give
us a historical perspective,
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if you would as
relates to, you know,
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ministering to urban youth
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and the challenges
that they face today.
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Certainly.
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You know, times have changed,
the challenges that we had
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growing up are
very different today.
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We're in the
age of social media,
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where there's all
kinds of temptations
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and devices that
are easily accessible.
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There's a whole issue
of peer pressure of...
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If youth has a peer group
who's trying to get him or her
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to pursue a
certain course of action,
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and that can be
extremely stressful.
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There's substance abuse issues.
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I'm going to talk
a little about that
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later on in this broadcast,
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just a variety of
substances that are easily
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and readily available.
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There's issues with depression,
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there's issues with bullying,
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suicide, homicide,
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and the list
goes on and on and on.
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It's never
ending, it's never ending.
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Absolutely.
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We recognize that the same devil
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that was there from the fall,
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where Adam and Eve
fell, is still here today.
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And it seems that
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he is doubling
his efforts today,
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especially as it
relates to young people.
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You know, even
though they're facing
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these challenges of
magnitude proportions,
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you know, we believe that
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they still can be reached
by the gospel of Jesus Christ.
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So let's kind of, you know,
talk a little bit about, again,
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these issues for instance,
let's take for instance, music.
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Let's start there, music is,
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it moves you and,
Brandon, I know you know this.
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You have a musical
background yourself.
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Music has the
power to move people,
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you know, in a positive
way, and also in a negative way.
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How do you see music affecting
our young people today?
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Well, you said it,
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music is a very powerful medium.
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Once you are in its presence,
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you really have no
power to resist its impact.
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And that's a
very important piece.
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When you are in its presence,
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it does not ask your
permission to enter your soul.
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For example, I have
been in the grocery store.
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Now the Lord knows
I'm only there to shop.
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And they'll play
some song from way back
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when I was dating
and while I was young,
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and it will immediately
bring back to the surface
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and I'm sure Dr.
King, can appreciate that
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and why that happens.
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I don't know why,
he's the doctor but,
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what I do know is it brings back
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all those
emotions, all those feelings
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from way back then.
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I don't even want to go there.
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I have not asked to go there.
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But because of the
power of this medium,
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it has taken me
there without my consent.
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So it's very powerful
and the devil knows that.
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As a matter of fact,
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he was in charge of
music in heaven, right?
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So we know that he
has a mastery there,
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he knows its power, its impact.
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It was designed to
take heavenly beings
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and raise their level
of appreciation for God.
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That's how powerful it is.
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And so he uses that
to take our young people
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and take their
emotions to places that
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they're not supposed to go.
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Yeah, that's powerful
that you connected music
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with the devil,
especially Lucifer,
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as it says in
Isaiah 14, and Ezekiel 28,
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because the Bible uses this word
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for tabrets in the
Hebrew that kind of gives you
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the inclination
that there was a pipe,
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there were pipes,
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little pipes built
inside of the devil,
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where he had this
great musical ability
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from the Hebrew
sense of the word.
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So we recognize that "Yes,
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he's involved in music
in this generation as well."
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See, and you're
absolutely right.
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The subconscious
mind is extremely powerful
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as Brandon quite rightly said.
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The power of music
doesn't need your permission.
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You know, there is a reason
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why the advertising
slots for the commercials
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for the upcoming
Superbowl are sold out.
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So businesses
are paying $3 million
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for a 30 second slot
just to get their message out
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because they know if
you're watching the game,
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and you're tuned
in, and you're focused,
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all they need is 30 seconds
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just to slip
that message in there.
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And music has also
utilized that exact same avenue,
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which is why a
number of the rap stars
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and rockers are so successful.
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My son loves Kanye.
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Okay. You know, he idolizes him.
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He talks about his
ability to put words together
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in such a poetic
and theatrical manner.
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And he refers
to him as a genius.
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And I actually
listened to one of his songs
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and I had to blush.
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A lot of that stuff
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is going past
the conscious mind,
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into the subconscious mind.
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Muta, can I talk
about, from your perspective,
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especially as you
minister to urban young people
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in your sphere of
ministry, you know,
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what has music
done in their minds,
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or in their own personal lives.
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You know, especially,
has it build them up,
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or tore them down,
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what's happening
as related to music?
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In our last episode, I
believe, previous episodes,
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we talked about mentorship,
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and how there is a lack of men
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in the lives of
our young people.
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Well, in one regard,
yes, in another regard, no,
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because now music has
taken over as the mentor.
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So a lot of these artists,
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they may not be
physically present
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with these young
people, but they're emotionally,
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spiritually, and
audially present with them.
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And they're
listening to them every day,
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and they're being
indoctrinated every day.
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And so as they grow,
the music now becomes
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their teacher, their
leader, their pastor.
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Wow, wow, their pastor.
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That definitely reaches.
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You know, I'll never
forget, you know, when I was...
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My first year of college
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before I really
took the call to go
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into ministry, I was
at Tuskegee University
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in Tuskegee,
Alabama, and in the cafeteria,
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they were playing, you
know, this thing called the box
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where it was music
videos all day from breakfast,
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you know, lunch, dinner,
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they were playing
music videos all day long.
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And I'll never forget,
you know, me sitting there,
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not consciously remembering
the words to the song.
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But I was
walking to class one day,
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and I can hear in
the faint distance
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across the campus,
you know, this beat,
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this song that
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I had not tried
to learn the music
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or the words to.
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And as I'm
walking across campus,
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it's like, wow,
I'm able to recite,
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I mean, I shocked myself.
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I was like, "Where
did that come from?
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How did I know
the words to this song
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when I did not sit
down and say, 'Okay,
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I'm gonna learn this song.'"
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Music is so powerful.
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And I think that, you know,
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we need to give
a word of caution
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to our young people
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that you don't want
music to take you places
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where God would not be pleased.
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And I think that's absolutely
critical for us to understand.
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What are some of
the other avenues
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that are affecting
our young people today?
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Well, Dr. King really gave us
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a pretty good introduction
on some of those areas,
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things like drug
abuse, sex and sexuality.
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Also, self-mutilation I call it,
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and that's piercings, tattoos.
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Devil gets them thinking that
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it's cool to
deface the image of God.
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They're really into that,
kids are getting into cutting.
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And I don't,
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I can't even begin to understand
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why and how that happens
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so it just doesn't
seem pleasurable to me.
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I'm glad we have a
doctor on the program here,
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who maybe can shed
some light on that.
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Because I've heard
that from other parents too.
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Yeah.
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So when parents
don't even understand
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how or why someone
would get into that,
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they become unsuspecting.
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Because if it
doesn't make sense to me,
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I just assume it won't
make sense to my child.
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So perhaps we could benefit
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from better
understanding that subject.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Sure, cutting is an
activity that a number of youth
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are engaged in
for various reasons.
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And for those who
are watching, you know,
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cutting is essentially
using any sharp instrument,
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it could be a
knife, it could be a blade,
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but anything that
can create an incision
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that will produce
blood, as well as elicit pain.
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That is the
definition of cutting,
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and a number of youth are
doing that as I mentioned,
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for various reasons,
some of them are very angry.
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And this is sort of a reaction
to dealing with your anger.
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If I can take the
anger out on myself,
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if I can feel it,
then I can release it.
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Also, it's their way
of controlling the pain
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that has been inflicted.
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You know, that is
within their control
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to inflict their
own pain on themselves.
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And in a weird way,
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it provides a
measure of relief to them.
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Wow.
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The cutting is not
a suicidal attempt,
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although sometimes it can end up
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as a suicidal attempt.
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Wow.
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And, you know,
parents need to be aware,
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they need to look
at their teenagers,
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look at their
bodies, because quite often
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those kids are
suffering in silence
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and parents don't know.
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That's amazing.
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I mean, these
vices, and these things
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that our young
people are facing,
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they seem challenging.
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I mean, almost, to
the point where it's like,
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will they submit
themselves to God
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and allow God to
take full control
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or will they allow society
to mold and to shape them?
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You look at, for
instance, basketball,
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I mean, it seems as
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if I can't tell you
what year it happened but,
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you know, every
basketball player
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with the exception
of a few, you know,
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they're tattooed up, you
know, on their neck, you know,
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across their face,
you know, all over.
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And, you know, in the church,
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especially our young
people are seeing these things,
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they're being exposed to it.
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And now, they have now
almost a proclivity to say,
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"You know what,
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I want to
experience this as well,
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I want to test, you
know, the same things
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that's been
exposed to in the world."
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And I think,
especially as parents,
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and as we minister to black men,
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we need to make
a stand, you know,
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and show them really God's
way and show them, you know,
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the best way to walk
every step of the way.
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I want to talk a little
bit about a substance abuse.
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Now I know that
this is prevalent,
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extremely
prevalent in our world today.
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And, Dr. King, I know you
have some very practical things
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you can share
with our viewers today
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as related to substance abuse.
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But, you know,
even before I do that,
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marijuana is a
frequently abused drug.
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And we still don't
understand or still haven't been
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able to quantify
the number of chemicals
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that are contained in marijuana.
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And I am oftentimes amazed
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when I hear people campaigning
for the legality of marijuana,
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when I know that we
don't even understand
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some of the chemical
compositions in marijuana.
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Alcohol as we know
is frequently abused.
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Prescription
medication is readily available
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in most medicine cabinets,
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and parents need
to be aware of that.
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However, it seemed as though
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we've entered into a
new age of substances.
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Some of them are
actually sold at gas stations,
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smoke shops,
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and some of them
are even contained
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in our own household.
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Let me give you a
couple of examples.
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You know what this is, right?
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All right. This is
just a dust remover.
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And this is actually
used to clean the keyboard
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of a computer.
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However, if you
were to ingest this,
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if you were to spray
this up your nostril,
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it goes
immediately to your brain.
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I actually had a
client who did that.
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And within
seconds, he passed out.
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Wow. And had to be hospitalized.
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So parents need to be
aware that this could be well,
00:15:31.99\00:15:35.50
actually, this
is called huffing.
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So this is a deadly device. Wow.
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And what's amazing
about this one is that,
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I mean, this is
just a spray that
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you use to clean
off your computer.
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Absolutely. Just
clean your keyboard off?
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Innocuous. Pretty innocuous.
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So most
households have this spray?
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Absolutely. Okay.
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Absolutely. Okay.
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And again, you do that,
you can easily pass out.
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Okay. Okay.
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Here we go.
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Energy brownie.
Say it again now.
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Energy brownie. Energy brownie.
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And this was purchased
at a local gas station.
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It's not illegal,
it's easily obtainable.
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And if you're driving,
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or you have to
drive long distances,
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it makes perfect sense,
at least what one will think,
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to stop at a gas station,
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which we oftentimes do,
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and we're looking for
something to pick me up,
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to get me to go that extra mile.
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And if you're not aware,
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especially if
you like chocolates,
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a brownie, you can
easily purchase this stuff.
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But when you
read the fine print,
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you know, it contains
amphetamine type properties.
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And, you know, sort
of a layman's explanation
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to that is some of
the same substances
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that are in marijuana,
and that are in crack cocaine.
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And so by eating
this, what it does,
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it can increase your heart rate,
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it can elevate
your blood pressure,
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and it can give you a jolt.
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And this can make you go hours
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and hours
without feeling hungry.
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Wow. But it is also deadly.
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If you take enough of
this, it can cause confusion,
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disorientation,
paranoia, and even death.
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Very simple, but
it can be very deadly.
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Wow. Now let me
ask you a question.
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Because, I mean,
parents are thinking right now
00:17:36.92\00:17:39.55
that, you know, my
child goes to the gas station,
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and they may
mistake a brownie, you know,
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a little Debbie brownie
for this energy brownie.
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You know, just not knowing,
I don't know, just not knowing,
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is this something
that you have to be
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18 or 21 and older to purchase?
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No. No, no, you
can purchase this.
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But if you read the
fine print very carefully,
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it says, "For adults only.
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Not suitable for children."
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But it's in the fine print.
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But children can
still buy it? Absolutely.
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Wow. And it's perfectly legal.
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Wow.
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If you see the
little image on there, too.
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It's a cartoon,
something that my son
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would walk in and
say, "Daddy, I want that."
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So who are they marketing it to?
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Wow. Absolutely.
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Wow. Absolutely.
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That's serious.
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And then I've got a couple
of good ones here for you.
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This is the famous K2
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and it looks like
a little herbal seed.
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We have found ways
00:18:44.09\00:18:45.42
of snorting
this, crushing it up,
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putting it on food,
putting it in drink.
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And contained in here...
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This is what is
called synthetic marijuana.
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It is loaded with amphetamines.
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Some of the same substances
00:19:04.34\00:19:05.67
that are
contained in crack cocaine
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and also marijuana.
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And so if you snort
enough of this or ingest it,
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it can lead to confusion,
00:19:16.08\00:19:18.59
disorientation,
and again, death.
00:19:18.62\00:19:22.52
This is highly addictive.
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And what that simply means
00:19:24.89\00:19:26.23
is that once you
get that first hit,
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it feels so good.
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There's almost no
substitute for it.
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But the catch is
that you need to use more
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to get the same effect.
00:19:38.57\00:19:40.38
And this is also sold online
and in the local smoke shop.
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It's called K2.
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And then this is potpourri.
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Potpourri. Potpourri.
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Like house potpourri?
But not household potpourri.
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Okay. You may think it is.
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It has the name and
it looks very similar
00:19:56.62\00:19:59.56
and that's the catch.
00:19:59.59\00:20:00.93
So you may be tempted to
purchase this and use it,
00:20:00.96\00:20:05.40
you know, to burn
sort of like sweet smelling
00:20:05.43\00:20:08.24
incense in your
bedroom at night.
00:20:08.27\00:20:11.17
But it is very
addictive, and also produces
00:20:11.21\00:20:15.21
some of the same effects as K2
00:20:15.24\00:20:18.65
and contained
in this little vial
00:20:18.68\00:20:21.48
also is another variation of K2.
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The cost of this is $13.99, $14.
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So once again, you can crush it,
00:20:31.26\00:20:33.80
you can snort
it, you can drink it,
00:20:33.86\00:20:36.60
you can ingest it,
00:20:36.63\00:20:38.20
but you need more and more
and more to enjoy the same high
00:20:38.23\00:20:43.77
that you get after
the very first hit.
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In 2010, in one
state Poison Control
00:20:46.64\00:20:52.11
received 236 calls.
00:20:52.15\00:20:55.85
Halfway through 2011,
00:20:55.88\00:20:58.72
they had already
received 251 calls of people
00:20:58.75\00:21:02.96
who became
disoriented after ingesting
00:21:02.99\00:21:06.83
or using one of
these substances.
00:21:06.90\00:21:08.73
Wow, wow, wow.
00:21:08.76\00:21:12.47
Dr. King, I
mean, I'm, I'm, I'm...
00:21:12.50\00:21:14.94
As I'm seeing
like, I'm blown away,
00:21:14.97\00:21:17.41
because I'm
thinking to myself that,
00:21:17.47\00:21:19.87
you know, a parent
that does not know,
00:21:19.91\00:21:22.38
you know, these facts
00:21:22.41\00:21:23.75
that you just shared with
us and they walk into a bedroom
00:21:23.81\00:21:26.05
and they see potpourri,
and they think to themselves,
00:21:26.08\00:21:27.95
"Oh, well, good, my child
is, you know, trying to clean,
00:21:27.98\00:21:30.75
you know, make their
room smell better," you know,
00:21:30.79\00:21:33.36
they may just put on
the facade, you know.
00:21:33.42\00:21:35.82
I'm almost troubled,
00:21:35.86\00:21:37.19
what do we do right,
at this stage right now,
00:21:37.23\00:21:40.76
you know, to educate
ourselves and to prevent,
00:21:40.80\00:21:44.80
you know, as best as
possible our children
00:21:44.83\00:21:47.07
from going down this track?
00:21:47.10\00:21:48.94
You know, sort of look like
00:21:48.97\00:21:50.34
what I did with a
group of teenagers.
00:21:50.37\00:21:53.07
I invited them over,
00:21:53.11\00:21:55.38
and just had a frank discussion
with them about the products
00:21:55.41\00:21:58.68
that are available,
00:21:58.71\00:22:00.32
and how these
different chemicals
00:22:00.35\00:22:03.15
can affect our
brain functioning,
00:22:03.18\00:22:06.62
and can induce
personality changes.
00:22:06.65\00:22:10.13
And just having a
frank discussion with them,
00:22:10.16\00:22:12.66
because the more we try to hide,
00:22:12.69\00:22:15.10
or the more we try to deny,
00:22:15.13\00:22:17.37
the greater the problem becomes.
00:22:17.43\00:22:19.30
Okay. What do you say because...
00:22:19.33\00:22:22.84
For anyone that, you know,
00:22:22.87\00:22:24.34
is addicted to one of the things
00:22:24.37\00:22:26.68
that we've talked about so far,
00:22:26.74\00:22:28.08
whether it's music,
whether it's peer pressure,
00:22:28.11\00:22:31.35
whether it's substance
abuse or alcohol, you know,
00:22:31.38\00:22:34.32
we know the Bible says
that we can do all things
00:22:34.35\00:22:36.89
through Christ
who gives us strength.
00:22:36.95\00:22:38.69
But to the viewer
that's watching right now,
00:22:38.72\00:22:40.56
what do we say to that viewer
00:22:40.62\00:22:42.52
who they know that
their son or their daughter
00:22:42.56\00:22:45.49
is addicted to
one of these drugs
00:22:45.53\00:22:48.23
or even has the proclivity
to take these drugs as well,
00:22:48.26\00:22:51.77
or again, our music,
00:22:51.80\00:22:53.27
that's leading
them away from God?
00:22:53.30\00:22:55.30
What do we tell a
parent, you know, in this sense,
00:22:55.34\00:22:58.81
or a guardian for that matter?
00:22:58.84\00:23:00.91
I think that there is
both clinical help that,
00:23:00.98\00:23:06.28
in many cases is
needed, and spiritual.
00:23:06.31\00:23:10.72
Sometimes, as Christian folks,
00:23:10.79\00:23:13.12
we will take the latter path,
00:23:13.15\00:23:17.43
and not fully
appreciate the need
00:23:17.46\00:23:20.50
for that practical
path, practical clinical help.
00:23:20.53\00:23:24.47
I think we have to do both.
00:23:24.50\00:23:26.13
And get, start
getting the things
00:23:26.17\00:23:31.27
in place in the child
00:23:31.31\00:23:32.64
so that they can
start taking practical steps
00:23:32.67\00:23:36.34
towards recovery.
00:23:36.38\00:23:38.21
But the spiritual piece
00:23:38.25\00:23:41.65
has to kind of
come in and replace.
00:23:41.68\00:23:45.69
Because if...
00:23:45.72\00:23:47.12
As you know, pastor,
00:23:47.16\00:23:48.49
there is a story
in the Bible of a man
00:23:48.52\00:23:51.26
who was delivered of a demon.
00:23:51.29\00:23:54.03
And that demon
goes out, finds no home
00:23:54.10\00:23:57.00
and someone else comes back,
finds them clean, but empty.
00:23:57.03\00:24:00.44
Clean, that's a good thing.
00:24:00.47\00:24:02.17
Empty, bad thing.
00:24:02.20\00:24:04.11
And so it gets
seven other demons
00:24:04.14\00:24:06.61
and repossesses the man.
00:24:06.68\00:24:09.21
So when we take
practical steps to get clean,
00:24:09.24\00:24:12.68
we have to, at the same time,
00:24:12.71\00:24:14.05
be bringing in the
spiritual peace to fill,
00:24:14.12\00:24:16.99
occupy that space
with divine light,
00:24:17.02\00:24:20.29
because light and darkness
cannot occupy the same space.
00:24:20.36\00:24:23.93
Absolutely. Well spoken.
00:24:23.96\00:24:25.79
Yeah, and I love
how you said that.
00:24:25.83\00:24:27.20
I just want to say it again,
00:24:27.23\00:24:28.53
especially because
that story is so powerful
00:24:28.56\00:24:30.53
that it's one
thing to clean a house
00:24:30.57\00:24:33.30
and I think so many times
00:24:33.34\00:24:34.80
as we minister to young people,
you know, whether we do it,
00:24:34.84\00:24:37.87
you know, intentionally or
not, you know, we always say,
00:24:37.91\00:24:39.94
you know, "Get rid of it,
00:24:39.97\00:24:41.34
just you know that
music is not of God,
00:24:41.38\00:24:43.81
take that music, throw it away."
00:24:43.85\00:24:45.28
You know, even when we had,
00:24:45.31\00:24:46.68
you know,
parties at church where,
00:24:46.72\00:24:48.05
you know, we had big trash cans
00:24:48.08\00:24:49.42
and we have people throw
their music away and say,
00:24:49.45\00:24:51.09
"You know what,
that's not of God,"
00:24:51.12\00:24:52.45
and we know that.
00:24:52.49\00:24:53.82
But in the challenge that
you just spoke of, Brandon,
00:24:53.86\00:24:55.29
is that oftentimes
00:24:55.32\00:24:57.09
we don't have
them replace the bad
00:24:57.13\00:25:00.96
when they swept the
house with the good.
00:25:00.96\00:25:03.47
And we can do
even a deeper injustice
00:25:03.50\00:25:06.63
if we don't replace,
00:25:06.67\00:25:08.30
you know the bad with the good
00:25:08.34\00:25:11.31
and ask what God
really wants us to understand,
00:25:11.34\00:25:13.58
especially as we
minister to urban youth.
00:25:13.61\00:25:17.65
I just wanted to sort
of quickly go through the,
00:25:17.68\00:25:20.92
for the parent
who may be suspicious
00:25:20.95\00:25:23.82
that a child has an addiction.
00:25:23.89\00:25:25.59
What are some
signs and symptoms,
00:25:25.62\00:25:27.39
how do you know?
00:25:27.46\00:25:29.59
Glossy eyes,
inappropriate laughter,
00:25:29.62\00:25:33.06
spots or sores
around the person's mouth,
00:25:33.09\00:25:36.23
the child appears
to be dazed or dizzy,
00:25:36.26\00:25:39.60
decreased appetite,
excessive sleepiness,
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sudden changes in personality.
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And, you know,
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that this is not
the way your child is.
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But there's just a sudden
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inexplicable
change in personality,
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unable to account
for large sums of money.
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Paraphernalia around the
house like blades, roach clips,
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rolling paper, bottles,
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or little cans, or little pipes,
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depression,
loneliness, isolation,
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all those are
classical signs that,
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you know,
something just is not right.
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And so what do you do?
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As Brandon quite
rightly said, you seek help.
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You seek spiritual help,
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and you seek psychological help.
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Help is certainly available,
and parents must be willing
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to reach out and ask for help.
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Okay, okay. Where do we go?
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If a parent wants to know like,
"Right now my kid, you know,
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has this alcohol
problem, where do I turn to?"
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There is a number of resources.
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Unfortunately,
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most of these are
outside the church.
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Community
mental health agencies.
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There's various
substance abuse agencies
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that are set up
with the intention
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of providing assistance.
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There's various
social work agencies also.
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Okay.
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The National
Institute on substance
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and Drug Abuse has a
wide array of resources
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that are available.
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Okay, okay.
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So we want parents to get
help, and to do it right away.
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Absolutely. This has been good.
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I mean, our time is already up.
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You know, amazingly,
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I mean, time has just
flown by extremely fast.
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What I want to share, you know,
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in the last 30 seconds
or so, is this promise,
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this text that God says
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He will do for us in Ezekiel 36.
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Bible says
Ezekiel 36:25, Bible says,
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"Then will I
sprinkle clean water upon you,
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and ye shall be clean:
from all your filthiness,
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from all your
idols, I will cleanse you.
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And a new heart
also will I give you,
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and a new spirit I
will put within you,
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I will take away the
stony heart of your flesh,
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and I will give
you a heart of flesh."
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Amen.
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My friends, the Bible
says that God is the one
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that would give us the new heart
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and He is the one
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that will take the desires away.
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Trust Him.
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But not only
trust God but seek help
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as well whether it be clinically
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or in the church as well.
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Let's make sure that we
are effectively ministering
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to our youth today.
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Until next time,
I'm Pastor William Lee,
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sorry, time has run out,
but we'll see you next time.
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God bless you. Amen.
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Welcome.
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