Welcome back to Families 4 Heaven. 00:00:01.98\00:00:03.24 We are talking about divorce and the devastating effect 00:00:03.27\00:00:09.29 it has on families in general. 00:00:09.33\00:00:13.44 Janet is our guest and Janet has had an experience that 00:00:13.47\00:00:17.10 she is sharing with us. 00:00:17.14\00:00:18.88 Janet, so here you are, you found out that the person 00:00:18.91\00:00:22.99 you married is not really the ideal person that you 00:00:23.03\00:00:27.07 thought he was. 00:00:27.11\00:00:28.56 What was happening? 00:00:28.60\00:00:29.98 Well the communication between the both of us started 00:00:30.02\00:00:33.90 lacking, we started speaking less and less to each other. 00:00:33.94\00:00:37.79 We would deal with everyday issues such as bills, 00:00:37.82\00:00:43.26 mortgages, and different things, but we were not dealing 00:00:43.30\00:00:47.29 on a personal level, feelings, emotions, and sharing 00:00:47.33\00:00:51.29 each other's thoughts. 00:00:51.32\00:00:54.88 It came to be as if we were roommates living under the 00:00:54.92\00:00:59.14 same roof and things just started falling apart. 00:00:59.18\00:01:02.16 You notice that she said the first thing that went was 00:01:02.19\00:01:06.13 communication, communication. 00:01:06.17\00:01:09.94 When people are hurting, they tend to shut down. 00:01:09.98\00:01:13.78 Instead of identifying the problem, they withdraw. 00:01:13.81\00:01:18.59 That usually leads to dysfunction, now they hurt 00:01:18.62\00:01:23.33 separately without clarifying exactly what the issue is. 00:01:23.37\00:01:27.24 If you haven't identified the problem your 00:01:27.28\00:01:30.53 are unable to solve it. 00:01:30.57\00:01:32.56 The communication, lack of communication leads to the 00:01:32.60\00:01:37.12 next thing, you both become roommates, no longer lovers. 00:01:37.16\00:01:41.32 No longer friends, hugging and all of what you thought 00:01:41.36\00:01:45.49 you would be doing during courtship, 00:01:45.52\00:01:47.53 you are now just roommates. 00:01:47.57\00:01:49.62 Okay Janet, tell us what happened. 00:01:49.65\00:01:52.04 Well I started noticing at family outings he wanted to 00:01:52.08\00:01:57.20 spend less and less time with me and the children. 00:01:57.24\00:02:02.72 At one point I went to a family event, a family member 00:02:02.76\00:02:08.20 approached me and asked me where was my husband? 00:02:08.24\00:02:12.05 At every single family meeting I was going alone with 00:02:12.08\00:02:16.49 my children and I didn't realize now other people were 00:02:16.52\00:02:20.89 becoming aware of the fact that our marriage 00:02:20.93\00:02:23.73 was falling apart. 00:02:23.76\00:02:26.01 So when my family member approached me and asked me that 00:02:26.05\00:02:30.61 question, it was a reflection and it hurt very much. 00:02:30.65\00:02:35.57 I realized at that moment that the subject could no 00:02:35.60\00:02:40.48 longer be set aside, it had to be addressed. 00:02:40.52\00:02:43.18 I went home and spoke to him about it, 00:02:43.22\00:02:46.66 I spoke to my husband about it at that time. 00:02:46.70\00:02:50.32 What happened was he just started revealing to me that 00:02:50.36\00:02:55.05 he was frustrated over the fact that he had made such a 00:02:55.09\00:02:59.75 long lasting decision at such a young age. 00:02:59.78\00:03:03.35 He realized at that moment he had made a great mistake. 00:03:03.39\00:03:07.62 But we were already married with our home and our two 00:03:07.65\00:03:11.84 children and it was very difficult to hear those words. 00:03:11.87\00:03:15.52 But I was still in the back of my mind, was very hopeful that 00:03:15.55\00:03:19.16 we could work this out. 00:03:19.20\00:03:21.55 I continued trying to push the marriage, my mistake was 00:03:21.59\00:03:27.03 I disregarded, even when he told me that, I just ignored 00:03:27.06\00:03:32.47 it and continued going. 00:03:32.51\00:03:34.65 In denial? Janet: in denial I just did not want to 00:03:34.69\00:03:36.98 believe. Alonzo: you just didn't want to hear that. 00:03:37.02\00:03:39.51 Isn't that consistent when someone is trying to hold onto 00:03:39.54\00:03:42.25 something they treasure, but at the same time it's... 00:03:42.29\00:03:44.93 Obviously what appeared to happen was they both had two 00:03:44.96\00:03:49.51 different goals, she wanted to preserve her marriage and 00:03:49.54\00:03:53.02 try to work it out to protect her nest, but he wanted out 00:03:53.05\00:03:56.84 because he had thought he lost his youth by taking on 00:03:56.87\00:04:00.26 all these responsibilities and woke up later and found 00:04:00.29\00:04:03.33 out that much of his fun time was now gone. 00:04:03.36\00:04:06.39 Now he has to be a father and a husband and 00:04:06.43\00:04:09.42 he got overwhelmed. 00:04:09.46\00:04:11.26 There is a lesson in that for you young people. 00:04:11.29\00:04:15.67 It is one thing to say you are in love, and some of you 00:04:15.71\00:04:20.05 elope and go get married, and some won't listen to 00:04:20.08\00:04:23.54 counsel and they get married. 00:04:23.58\00:04:25.56 It is one thing to do that, it is another thing when the 00:04:25.59\00:04:29.96 reality of married life hits you. 00:04:29.99\00:04:32.62 Marriage is not just about romance, there is much 00:04:32.66\00:04:35.65 more than that. 00:04:35.68\00:04:37.22 Marriage is about paying the bills. 00:04:37.25\00:04:39.07 When children come into play, it's being a father, being 00:04:39.11\00:04:43.59 there, a mother being there and taking care of 00:04:43.62\00:04:47.31 responsibilities and when that starts occurring on a 00:04:47.35\00:04:52.81 daily basis, then it somehow changes how you feel about 00:04:52.85\00:04:58.28 the person that you once say you are in love with. 00:04:58.31\00:05:01.11 So there are some cautions there and we are asking 00:05:01.15\00:05:03.92 you to take note. 00:05:03.95\00:05:05.87 So Janet, eventually what happened? 00:05:05.90\00:05:10.11 Eventually he started, he used to work a lot of overtime. 00:05:10.15\00:05:15.83 I trusted him 100% and believed that he was working at 00:05:15.86\00:05:21.51 night during night shifts. 00:05:21.55\00:05:24.25 So one day he was working a night shift and I just 00:05:24.28\00:05:31.16 got this overwhelming feeling that he wasn't 00:05:31.20\00:05:40.57 working at that time. 00:05:40.61\00:05:42.27 I don't know how to explain it, I just felt these 00:05:42.31\00:05:47.60 emotions go through and at that moment I opened my eyes 00:05:47.64\00:05:52.44 and finally woke up and realized that he wasn't working. 00:05:52.47\00:05:57.32 He was seeing someone else and I knew by just instinct. 00:05:57.36\00:06:02.17 It was without any physical proof at that moment. 00:06:02.20\00:06:05.13 Well later on that night he came home and I actually, 00:06:08.24\00:06:13.89 when I got that feeling, started calling his cell phone. 00:06:13.93\00:06:18.58 Usually he would pick up right away, and an hour had gone 00:06:18.61\00:06:23.23 by and he wouldn't pick up his phone. 00:06:23.27\00:06:25.17 At that moment I was almost 100% sure that 00:06:25.20\00:06:31.03 he was with someone else. 00:06:31.07\00:06:32.82 When he finally called back, I didn't let him speak 00:06:32.85\00:06:37.43 once he said hello, I just told him on the phone I know 00:06:37.46\00:06:42.00 exactly what he was doing. 00:06:42.04\00:06:43.91 I told him to please come home, just drop whatever you're 00:06:43.94\00:06:49.40 doing at that moment and please come home because he 00:06:49.43\00:06:53.31 has basically been caught because I knew where he was 00:06:53.35\00:06:57.19 and what he was doing. Alonzo: did he come home? 00:06:57.23\00:06:58.56 He came home almost 2 hours later. 00:06:58.60\00:07:01.01 I was waiting for him in the living room in the dark, 00:07:01.05\00:07:04.41 so when he walked in he did not see me sitting 00:07:04.44\00:07:07.41 in the living room. 00:07:07.45\00:07:08.84 I called him into the living room and as we sat there I 00:07:08.87\00:07:13.33 started speaking to him and he didn't want to talk. 00:07:13.37\00:07:16.88 He just had his head down the whole time, like he was 00:07:16.92\00:07:20.40 feeling ashamed because he had been caught. 00:07:20.44\00:07:26.48 So I told him at that time that I understood. 00:07:26.52\00:07:32.49 This is how in love I was, I understood that he had made 00:07:32.53\00:07:36.67 a mistake, that if he was willing to let this person go, 00:07:36.70\00:07:40.81 I was willing to forget and continue our marriage. 00:07:40.84\00:07:44.40 At that moment he revealed that he was no longer in 00:07:44.44\00:07:47.34 love with me, he just didn't want to be a part of the 00:07:47.37\00:07:50.24 marriage anymore. 00:07:50.27\00:07:53.08 Wow, okay. 00:07:53.12\00:07:54.19 Dr. Smith: that must've been awful hurtful. 00:07:54.22\00:07:55.74 Janet: it was, it was horrible. 00:07:55.77\00:07:58.13 It's amazingly, even though life has moved on and things 00:07:58.16\00:08:02.79 have gotten better, how the memory links to that heartache. 00:08:02.83\00:08:07.42 Dr. Smith: I'm sorry I just want to piggyback on that 00:08:10.87\00:08:13.80 because it is not inconsistent that women, especially 00:08:13.84\00:08:17.28 women, this happens with men too, but when you are a 00:08:17.31\00:08:21.09 mother, and you have your children to protect, even when 00:08:21.13\00:08:26.06 you see blaring abuse, you know this is wrong and should 00:08:26.10\00:08:31.00 be happening, you still try to keep your nest. 00:08:31.04\00:08:34.76 Because that is what mothers do, 00:08:34.80\00:08:37.17 you watch over your chicks. 00:08:37.20\00:08:39.15 Alonzo: it is so sad, no matter how hard one person 00:08:39.19\00:08:46.51 tries, if the other person is not willing, 00:08:46.54\00:08:50.03 eventually it will go. 00:08:50.06\00:08:52.96 Maybe somebody is watching this program and you are 00:08:53.00\00:08:57.70 going through the same situation. 00:08:57.74\00:08:59.50 Not so much the person that wants to hold on to the 00:08:59.53\00:09:03.26 marriage, but the person who is breaking away, 00:09:03.30\00:09:06.45 who is saying I want to be out of this marriage. 00:09:06.48\00:09:10.06 Is it possible that you could just pause and take a 00:09:10.09\00:09:13.89 deep breath, and introspective look into yourself? 00:09:13.92\00:09:17.65 Maybe you have children, family and could you just maybe 00:09:17.69\00:09:22.91 get some help, professional help, because that is the 00:09:22.95\00:09:28.13 right thing to do. 00:09:28.17\00:09:30.09 It is the manly thing to do, it is the womanly thing to 00:09:30.12\00:09:33.39 do, it is the best thing to do. 00:09:33.43\00:09:36.16 You know something, most of all is the godly thing to do. 00:09:36.20\00:09:40.44 Now we are moving to talk about the effect of divorce 00:09:40.48\00:09:44.69 on children. 00:09:44.73\00:09:46.67 Before we do that, Janet how did it end? 00:09:46.70\00:09:51.71 Eventually we ended up getting divorced, the divorce was 00:09:51.75\00:09:56.39 finalized, it was a process but. 00:09:56.43\00:10:00.01 Alonzo: a painful experience I'm sure. 00:10:00.05\00:10:02.48 Janet: a very painful experience for the whole family. 00:10:02.52\00:10:05.44 Alonzo: for the children as well. 00:10:05.48\00:10:06.78 Janet: for the children as well, 00:10:06.81\00:10:08.07 they have suffered a lot. 00:10:08.11\00:10:10.04 Alonzo: when we talk about the devastating effect of 00:10:10.08\00:10:14.46 divorce on children, we are not insensitive to the 00:10:14.49\00:10:18.02 whole family, as a matter of fact when there is a 00:10:18.06\00:10:21.55 divorce no one wins. 00:10:21.59\00:10:24.55 No matter how, no one. 00:10:24.59\00:10:27.49 For children, however there is this delayed reaction. 00:10:27.52\00:10:34.56 By this I mean, a parent might get divorced when the 00:10:34.60\00:10:40.44 child is at age 5, 6, at that time the child might not 00:10:40.47\00:10:46.27 react in any significant way. 00:10:46.31\00:10:48.35 They may or they may not. 00:10:48.38\00:10:50.35 But when the child reaches 14 or 15 or 16, there is a 00:10:50.39\00:10:55.55 possibility that the divorce could have traumatizing 00:10:55.59\00:11:00.72 affect on the child. 00:11:00.75\00:11:02.69 That is what we call delayed response. 00:11:02.72\00:11:06.66 Another impact is that children are as damaged or harmed 00:11:06.70\00:11:12.71 as older children, meaning younger children have a 00:11:12.75\00:11:17.09 devastating results as much as the adolescent 00:11:17.12\00:11:20.73 or older child. 00:11:20.77\00:11:22.30 Sometimes because the child is young and they can't 00:11:22.33\00:11:25.72 articulate their pain, they are not able to make sense 00:11:25.75\00:11:29.02 of all the details of what's going on, they seem like 00:11:29.05\00:11:32.32 they don't understand, but it doesn't mean that they 00:11:32.36\00:11:35.59 are not being negatively impacted. 00:11:35.62\00:11:38.17 So parents, or the caregivers, shouldn't dismiss a child 00:11:38.21\00:11:43.24 and think they don't know what is going on. 00:11:43.27\00:11:46.20 Our recommendation is that you really need to follow the 00:11:46.24\00:11:49.37 child closely, secure them with a lot of emotional 00:11:49.41\00:11:52.75 support, give them a stable of an afterlife as you can, 00:11:52.78\00:11:57.51 so the child can keep their normalcy. 00:11:57.54\00:12:01.10 As quickly as you are able to you get 00:12:01.14\00:12:04.67 them professional help. 00:12:04.70\00:12:07.21 Regressive behavior is almost the opposite 00:12:07.25\00:12:11.87 of delayed response. 00:12:11.90\00:12:13.83 In this case, rather than the problem coming years later, 00:12:13.86\00:12:17.57 we find the child going back. 00:12:17.60\00:12:20.39 For example a child that was no longer wetting the bed, 00:12:20.43\00:12:24.54 could resort to bed wetting. 00:12:24.58\00:12:26.66 These are some of things that can happen to children. 00:12:26.69\00:12:30.84 Divorce has it's traumatizing effect on children. 00:12:30.88\00:12:34.95 Sometimes children become confused about relationships. 00:12:34.99\00:12:38.90 Your mom and dad are two people who love you most. 00:12:38.93\00:12:44.02 When you see this love broken as it were, or separated, 00:12:44.05\00:12:49.62 you are not sure what love really means. 00:12:49.66\00:12:52.93 So as you grow up it sometimes creates confusion in your 00:12:52.97\00:12:57.40 emotions, and when you say you love you are not sure you 00:12:57.44\00:13:01.14 are loving like mommy and daddy loved, or you are loving 00:13:01.17\00:13:04.84 like somebody else should. 00:13:04.87\00:13:07.40 You find the children that go through a divorce, or many 00:13:07.44\00:13:11.23 children, not all of them, but many children who go 00:13:11.26\00:13:13.89 through a divorce become confused about their emotions. 00:13:13.93\00:13:16.53 Divorce is a very stressful life event. 00:13:16.56\00:13:19.58 What would you say to someone who say to you say to 00:13:19.62\00:13:26.72 how do I get over the pain of losing someone that I truly 00:13:26.76\00:13:32.14 love, how do I get over that pain? 00:13:32.17\00:13:34.56 Much like you get over the crisis in your life, or other 00:13:34.60\00:13:41.54 crises, you have to accept that this has happened. 00:13:41.57\00:13:46.03 Except that you still have life. 00:13:46.06\00:13:50.32 You have a family and you have yourself, you have other 00:13:50.36\00:13:53.90 people that love and support you, and you must move on. 00:13:53.94\00:13:58.82 There are concerns, for example, there is social concern, 00:13:58.85\00:14:03.65 the fate of the divorce is not just the family and home 00:14:03.69\00:14:08.45 environment, it spills out into society. 00:14:08.49\00:14:11.50 Many children, the children in the school and society, 00:14:11.54\00:14:16.27 when you trace it, it is from a divorced broken home. 00:14:16.30\00:14:20.29 It has economic concerns, there's spiritual concerns. 00:14:20.33\00:14:24.08 It affects their spiritual health of the family and it 00:14:24.12\00:14:27.84 also affects the economy of the family. 00:14:27.87\00:14:30.50 Children who come out of a family that experiences a 00:14:30.53\00:14:35.32 divorce sometimes end up with emotions of anger. 00:14:35.35\00:14:41.18 They get really frustrated in understanding the pain 00:14:41.21\00:14:46.18 that they feel and they are not likely, or not usually 00:14:46.21\00:14:51.14 able to make sense of that anger. 00:14:51.18\00:14:54.14 Because they still love their parents, they are not 00:14:54.17\00:14:56.92 divorced from their parents, the parents are divorced 00:14:56.95\00:14:59.67 from each other. 00:14:59.70\00:15:00.88 But daddy is still my dad and mommy is still my mom 00:15:00.92\00:15:04.47 and I love them both. 00:15:04.50\00:15:06.28 So they don't know what to do with those emotions often. 00:15:06.31\00:15:09.31 You know there is a big difference between 00:15:09.34\00:15:11.58 a divorce and a death. 00:15:11.61\00:15:13.60 As matter of fact sometimes the divorce is far more 00:15:13.64\00:15:17.57 painful then death. 00:15:17.60\00:15:18.88 Because when there is a death you have flowers and cards 00:15:18.92\00:15:22.67 and there's a funeral and burial and things like that. 00:15:22.70\00:15:26.41 When there is a divorce there is sometimes no friends, 00:15:26.44\00:15:30.11 no cards, no flowers and you are left alone. 00:15:30.15\00:15:34.02 That makes it even more painful. 00:15:34.05\00:15:37.16 Sometimes you feel guilty and that leads to self-reproach 00:15:37.20\00:15:42.72 or self-hate. 00:15:42.75\00:15:44.36 In fact, sometimes people hurt themselves because they 00:15:44.40\00:15:48.18 think they are responsible for what happened. 00:15:48.21\00:15:50.79 Or they begin to reflect deeply on how they may have contributed 00:15:50.83\00:15:54.26 to the breakdown in that family. 00:15:54.29\00:15:56.14 And instead of getting help and relocating their pain, 00:15:56.17\00:15:59.60 they hurt themselves even more. 00:15:59.64\00:16:02.41 Janet, did you stay in your pain for ever or have you 00:16:02.45\00:16:09.14 moved on with your life? 00:16:09.18\00:16:10.89 Where are you now, share with us. 00:16:10.93\00:16:12.67 Will we serve a wonderful God who blessed me and my children 00:16:12.70\00:16:18.07 with a wonderful man. 00:16:18.10\00:16:19.93 I got remarried, and have been married 00:16:19.97\00:16:23.08 for four years now. 00:16:23.12\00:16:24.92 He is a God fearing man and our home is now 00:16:24.95\00:16:29.46 a happy home again. 00:16:29.49\00:16:31.02 Alonzo: beautiful, that is beautiful. 00:16:31.06\00:16:33.23 In other words you have picked up the broken pieces, 00:16:33.27\00:16:36.17 brushed things off and move on. 00:16:36.21\00:16:40.67 We recommend that whatever your situation is, 00:16:40.70\00:16:44.99 trust in God. 00:16:45.02\00:16:47.23 If you are listening to us and your family is going 00:16:47.26\00:16:49.71 through a difficult time, you are contemplating a 00:16:49.75\00:16:52.13 divorce, again I appeal to you get some professional help 00:16:52.16\00:16:58.14 and turn matters over to your Creator and your Maker, 00:16:58.17\00:17:04.12 because He has the power to change things. 00:17:04.15\00:17:07.22 He has the power to change you, and He has the power 00:17:07.26\00:17:10.44 to change your situation. 00:17:10.48\00:17:12.32 We hope that by you watching this program, if you are 00:17:12.36\00:17:16.76 going through this problem you will find some help. 00:17:16.79\00:17:21.16 Thank you for watching and have a great day. 00:17:21.19\00:17:23.66