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>>WE'RE BEGINNING A NEW SERIES
ON SOMETHING I'VE PRAYED AND
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THOUGHT ABOUT DISCUSSING
FOR, LITERALLY, YEARS.
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AND I NEVER HAVE BECAUSE I JUST
WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
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TRUTHS WERE JELLED IN MY OWN
MIND BEFORE I HAD THE CONFIDENCE
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TO SHARE THEM WITH
OTHERS. YOU KNOW, I FEEL A GREAT
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RESPONSIBILITY AS YOUR PASTOR
AND THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT THE
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BOOK OF JAMES, DON'T BE ANXIOUS
TO BE MANY MASTERS KNOWING
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YOU'LL RECEIVE A MORE
SEVERE JUDGMENT OR FIERCER
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CONDEMNATION. AND SO,
WHEN YOU TEACH, YOU WANT
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TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE TEACHING
THE TRUTH BECAUSE YOU'RE
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ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT.
AND I HAVE BEEN STUDYING FOR
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A FEW YEARS AND READING WHAT
OTHERS HAVE WRITTEN ABOUT THE
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SUBJECT OF ISLAM AND, WITH
THINGS HAPPENING IN THE WORLD
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TODAY, IT'S BEEN PROMINENT
AND IN THE NEWS AND WE ARE
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WONDERING, AS CHRISTIANS, DOES
THIS FACTOR SOMEHOW IN PROPHECY.
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AND SO, I'VE CHOSEN TO SPEAK
ON THIS SUBJECT AND THE MESSAGE
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TODAY DEALING WITH ISLAM,
CHRISTIANITY, AND PROPHECY, IS
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GOING TO BE PART 1 IN THE SERIES
AND IT'S CALLED SIBLING RIVALRY
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. THE BIBLE IS FULL OF STORIES
OF SIBLING RIVALRY AND THERE'S
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QUITE A FEW THAT GO
THROUGH THE SPAN OF HISTORY TOO.
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PROMINENT BROTHERS AND SISTERS
WHO HAD SOME RIVALRY OR SOME
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BATTLES. YOU
KNOW, IT WAS ONE OF THE
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PTOLEMYS THAT HE DECIDED THAT
HIS TWO CHILDREN WOULD CO-RULE.
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ONE OF THEM WAS CALLED CLEOPATRA
AND THEN HIS YOUNGER SON PTOLEMY
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- CLEOPATRA DIDN'T CARE FOR THAT
AND SHE GOT CAESAR ON HER SIDE
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AND HE ENDED UP DROWNING
IN A BATTLE IN THE NILE.
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YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD ABOUT
ELIZABETH AND MARY I IN ENGLAND
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AND ONE PUT THE OTHER
IN THE TOWER OF LONDON.
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ONE INTERESTING STORY IS ABOUT
ARTEXERXES II AND CYRUS THE
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YOUNGER, WHEN THE KING OF PERSIA
WAS AILING, THESE TWO BROTHERS
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BOTH THOUGHT THAT THEY
HAD A RIGHT TO THE THRONE.
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AND YOU THINK BROTHERS,
YOU KNOW, THEY'D JUST LOVE EACH
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OTHER BUT, I GUESS, WHEN IT
COMES TO POWER - YOU'VE NEVER
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KNOWN OF ANY CASES OF SIBLING
RIVALRY. ANY OF YOU FIGHT WITH
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YOUR SIBLINGS? >>YES.
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>>WELL, THEY ENDED UP BOTH
RAISING ARMIES AND CYRUS CAME
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AND HE JOINED AN ARMY AGAINST
HIS BROTHER ARTEXERXES II.
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NOW THESE ARE NOT THE SAME
ARTEXERXES AND CYRUS THAT YOU
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READ ABOUT IN THE BIBLE -
THAT NAME APPEARS SEVERAL TIMES.
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AND, IN THIS BATTLE, CYRUS
ENDED UP BRINGING 30,000 MEN.
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HE CAME TO BATTLE WITH HIS
BROTHER WHO HAD 60,000 MEN AND
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HE WAS ACTUALLY WINNING WITH
30,000 MEN - WITH 90,000 MEN ON
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THE BATTLEFIELD, WOULDN'T YOU
KNOW, THEY ACTUALLY GOT TO THE
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POINT WHERE THE TWO BROTHERS
WERE FACE TO FACE IN BATTLE AND
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CYRUS SUCCEEDED IN WOUNDING HIS
BROTHER WITH A SPEAR, BUT THE
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SOLDIERS AROUND HIS BROTHER
THREW SEVERAL DARTS AT CYRUS AND
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WOUNDED HIM AND HE DIED LATER
THAT DAY AND THE KINGDOM FELL,
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THEN, TO ARTEXERXES
II. SIBLING RIVALRY.
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ALL THE WAY BACK FROM CAIN AND
ABEL, JACOB AND ESAU - YOU CAN
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READ ABOUT JESUS AND HIS
BROTHERS AND DAVID AND HIS
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BROTHERS AND JOSEPH AND HIS
BROTHERS AND YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF
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EXAMPLES IN THE BIBLE, EVEN
AMONG THE GIRLS - RACHEL AND
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LEAH - YOU EVER READ ABOUT THE
ARGUMENTS THEY HAD FIGHTING OVER
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THE SAME HUSBAND? BUT
ONE OF THE GREAT EXAMPLES
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OF WHAT HAS BECOME A SIBLING
RIVALRY DEALS WITH THE TWO
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OLDEST SONS OF ABRAHAM, THE
OLDEST BEING ISHMAEL AND THE
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SECOND BEING ISAAC, AND WHO
WAS THE RIGHTFUL HEIR FOR THAT
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PATRIARCHAL BLESSING? AND
THE CONTEST THAT BEGINS IN
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THE BOOK OF GENESIS
CONTINUES TODAY IN THE WORLD.
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WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING
AT THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.
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FIRST I'D LIKE TO JUST
STATE SOME OF WHAT IS OBVIOUS.
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RIGHT NOW THERE ARE ABOUT 7.4
BILLION PEOPLE - THE NATION OF
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ISLAM, OR THE PEOPLE OF ISLAM,
IS A GREAT NATION OF PEOPLE.
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THERE ARE ABOUT 7.4 BILLION
PEOPLE IN THE WORLD TODAY
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CHRISTIANITY IS, BY FAR, THE
BIGGEST RELIGION AT PRESENT WITH
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ABOUT 2.2 OR 31% OF
ALL THE PEOPLE ON EARTH.
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ISLAM IS IN SECOND PLACE
WITH 1.7 ADHERENTS - THAT'S 23%.
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NOW, WHAT'S INTERESTING
IS, ACCORDING TO A PEW RESEARCH
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STUDY, MUSLIMS ARE GROWING MUCH
FASTER AND IT IS ESTIMATED THAT
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BY THE YEAR 2050, WHILE THE
WORLD POPULATION'S ONLY GOING TO
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GROW ABOUT 35%, THE POPULATION
OF THE MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD IS
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GOING TO GROW 73%.
AND IT WILL BE THE LARGEST
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RELIGIOUS GROUP IN THE WORLD, IF
PRESENT TRENDS CONTINUE, BY 2050
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THERE'LL BE 2.8 BILLION MUSLIMS
IN THE WORLD. NOW THIS IS
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SOMETHING THAT - AND IT'S A
RELIGIOUS BELIEF THAT HAS SOME
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SIMILARITIES IN THEIR HISTORY
WITH CHRISTIANITY THAT WE'LL
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TALK ABOUT. SOME OF
YOU ARE WONDERING, IS
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THE CHRISTIAN GOD AND
THE GOD OF MUSLIMS THE SAME?
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YOU'VE GOT TO COME NEXT WEEK.
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I'M NOT ANSWERING
THAT QUESTION TODAY.
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(LAUGHTER) AND IF YOU WANT TO
KNOW MORE ABOUT THE HISTORY OF
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MUHAMMAD THEN I'M GOING TO BE
DEALING MORE ABOUT THAT AND IF
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YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT DANIEL 11
WE'RE GOING TO DELVE INTO THAT A
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LITTLE BIT. YOU'VE
GOT TO KEEP COMING.
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BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK
AT THE HEADLINES TODAY WE HEAR
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ABOUT TERRORISM AND IT'S OFTEN
IN CONNECTION WITH ISLAM AND
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PEOPLE WONDER, YOU KNOW, WE
HEAR ABOUT ISIS AND ISIL AND IS.
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WHAT DOES ALL THAT MEAN?
WELL, ISIS HAS COME TO BE AN
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ACRONYM FOR THE 'ISLAMIC STATE
OF IRAQ AND SYRIA'. SOMETIMES
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YOU'LL HEAR PRESIDENT OBAMA
USE THE WORD 'ISIL' AND IT'S
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SIMILAR. THAT MEANS THE 'ISLAMIC
STATE OF IRAQ AND THE LEVANT'.
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NOW THAT'S AN INTERESTING PHRASE
BECAUSE - AND I'VE GOT A MAP
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HERE THAT I THINK IS ON THE
SCREEN. WHY DON'T YOU PUT THAT
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UP, SHERLE? I SEE IT
ON MY MONITOR; I WANT
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FOLKS TO BE
ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT.
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THE TERRITORY OF THE LEVANT NOT
ONLY INCLUDES IRAN, IRAQ, SYRIA,
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JORDAN, LEBANON,
BUT IT INCLUDES ISRAEL.
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IT'S AN ANCIENT TERRITORY
THAT REALLY CLAIMED ALL THE LAND
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RIGHT TO THE MEDITERRANEAN.
AND SO, SOME USE THAT PHRASE
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BECAUSE THEY'RE SORT OF TAKING
ISRAEL OUT OF THE PICTURE.
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THEY'RE WANTING TO FORM, OUT
OF ALL THESE FRAGMENTS OF THE
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ISLAMIC COUNTRIES, ONE MIGHTY
CENTRAL POWER. THAT'S WHAT
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SADDAM HUSSEIN WAS AFTER AND
HE HOPED THAT HE COULD RECAPTURE
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THE GLORY OF THE DAYS OF
NEBUCHADNEZZAR - A WORLD EMPIRE.
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OF COURSE, THE RELIGION OF
NEBUCHADNEZZAR WAS NOTHING LIKE
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ISLAM, BUT SINCE IT WAS SOME
OF THE SAME TERRITORY AROUND
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BAGHDAD, HE WAS CLAIMING
NEBUCHADNEZZAR AS HIS ANCESTOR
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BECAUSE HE WANTED TO BE THE
ONE WHO WOULD UNITE ALL THESE
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FRAGMENTS OF ISLAM AND THE ARAB
COUNTRIES. NOW, WE'VE GOT TO BE
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VERY CAREFUL BECAUSE, WHILE
THERE ARE 1.7 BILLION MUSLIMS IN
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THE WORLD TODAY, A FEW
THINGS NEED TO BE CLEAR.
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MOST ARABS ARE MUSLIMS,
BUT NOT MOST MUSLIMS ARE ARABS.
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THE MAJORITY OF
MUSLIMS ARE NOT ARABS.
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MOST ARABS ARE MUSLIMS AND THE
MUSLIM RELIGION DID SPRING FROM
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SAUDI ARABIA AND MUHAMMAD AND
IT LARGELY - IT'S GOT ARAB ROOTS
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THAT ARE CONNECTED WITH
ISHMAEL. WE'LL GET TO THAT
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IN JUST A MINUTE. BUT
THE RELIGION SPREAD AND SO
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TODAY, MOST MUSLIMS ARE
NOT ARABS. THE LARGEST MUSLIM
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COUNTRY - I'VE BEEN THERE -
INDONESIA - THEY'RE NOT ARABS.
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AND YOU GO TO PAKISTAN AND
NORTH INDIA - NORTH AFRICA - AND
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YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THAT
THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF MUSLIM
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PEOPLE IN THE
WORLD THAT ARE NOT ARABS.
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AND SO, WE'VE GOT TO BE VERY
CAREFUL AND WE ALSO HAVE TO BE
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CAREFUL TO UNDERSTAND THAT
WE DO SEE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF
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TERRORISM IN THE WORLD AND A
LOT OF IT - A LOT OF THE SUICIDE
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BOMBINGS ARE CONNECTED
WITH THE RELIGION ISLAM.
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MATTER OF FACT, A COUPLE
OF STUDIES THAT I READ - AND
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THERE'S OTHERS YOU CAN FIND
- 2013 STUDY BY THE BROOKINGS
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INSTITUTE FOUND THAT 77%
OF TERROR ATTACK PLOTS IN THE
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UNITED STATES WERE
MOTIVATED BY ISLAM.
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A 2015 STUDY FROM THE INSTITUTE
FOR NATIONAL SECURITY STUDIES -
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AND THAT'S BASED IN ISRAEL, SO
- TO GIVE YOU FAIR PERSPECTIVE -
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FOUND THAT 99.5% OF ALL SUICIDE
ATTACKS GLOBALLY WERE MOTIVATED
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BY ISLAM. THEY
FOUND THAT OUT OF 452
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SUICIDE TERROR ATTACKS IN 2015 -
OF COURSE THE DATA'S NOT ALL IN
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ON 2016 YET - THIS IS JUST
LAST YEAR, OUT OF 452, 450 WERE
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PERPETRATED BY
MUSLIM EXTREMISTS.
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SO PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THESE
THINGS AND YOU READ IT IN THE
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HEADLINES AND IT'S -
PEOPLE BECOME FRIGHTENED.
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THEY SAY, 'DO I HAVE TO
BE AFRAID OF THE RELIGION OF
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ISLAM?' KEEP IN
MIND THAT OUT OF 1.7
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BILLION, THE VAST MAJORITY ARE
NICE, PEACEFUL PEOPLE; BUT THERE
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IS SOMETHING THAT
IS DEFINITELY GOING ON.
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YOU CANNOT DENY THAT THE
TERRORISM IS SPRINGING FROM A
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RELIGIOUS FOUNDATION.
THOSE WHO ARE EXTREMISTS,
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THERE'S
RELIGIOUS REASONS FOR IT.
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THAT'S WHY WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE
TO ACHIEVE PEACE IN THE MIDDLE
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EAST AND THE RECENT SECRETARY OF
STATE BASICALLY THREW HIS HANDS
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IN THE AIR AND WALKED AWAY, NOT
ONLY DEALING WITH SYRIA BUT IN
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WHAT'S GOING ON IN ISRAEL
BECAUSE THE PROBLEMS ARE SO
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DEEPLY ROOTED BECAUSE THE
RELIGIOUS ISSUES AND, AS LONG AS
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THE JEWS AND THE CHRISTIANS AND
THE MUSLIMS BASE THEIR FAITH ON
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DIFFERENT BOOKS - OF COURSE JEWS
AND CHRISTIANS HAVE PRETTY MUCH
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THE SAME BOOK. WE
HAVE THE NEW TESTAMENT BUT
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THE MUSLIMS PUT THE QURAN AS
A PRIORITY. THEY ALSO CLAIM SOME
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VALUE IN THE BIBLE, BUT
NOT THE SAME WAY THAT WE DO.
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SO THERE'S - THERE ARE DOCUMENTS
OF CONSTITUTION - THEIR
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RELIGIONS ARE DIFFERENT
AND THEY CAN'T CHANGE THAT.
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YOU JUST DON'T SEE IT GOING AWAY
UNLESS THEY CHANGE THEIR BOOK.
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IT'S ENTRENCHED AND THE BATTLES
THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE GOING
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ON IN THE WORLD
TODAY GO WAY BACK.
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RECENTLY CIA DIRECTOR
JOHN BRENNAN AND, IN A SIMILAR
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MEETING WHERE ALSO THE FBI BOTH
ADDRESSED THE PROBLEMS WITH ISIS
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AND ISIL - ACCORDING TO DIRECTOR
BRENNAN HE SAID, 'IRAQ AND SYRIA
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HAVE BEEN SO THOROUGHLY DAMAGED
BY WARFARE, SECTARIAN CONFLICT,
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AND KILLING, IT IS UNCLEAR
THAT THEY CAN EVER BE PUT BACK
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TOGETHER AGAIN. THOSE
NATIONS WE ONCE KNEW AS
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SYRIA AND IRAQ - AND IT
MAY SPILL OVER INTO JORDAN AND
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LEBANON AND SOME OF THESE
OTHER COUNTRIES - TUNIS, AFRICA,
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YEMEN, THEY'RE UNRAVELING
AND THE BORDERS ARE CHANGING.
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AND HE SAYS HE DOESN'T
THINK THEY'LL EVER BE PUT BACK
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TOGETHER AGAIN THE
WAY WE KNOW THEM NOW.
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HE WENT ON TO SAY HE BELIEVES
THAT ISIS WILL REMAIN A PRESENCE
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INSIDE SYRIA AND IRAQ FOR
QUITE - "QUITE A WHILE TO COME.
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I DO NOT THINK A NUMBER OF THEM
ARE GOING TO REMAIN A CHALLENGE
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FOR THE UNITED STATES AS WELL AS
OTHER GOVERNMENTS" - HE SAYS, "I
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DO THINK" - I'M SORRY - "I DO
THINK A NUMBER OF THEM ARE GOING
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TO REMAIN A CHALLENGE FOR THE
UNITED STATES, AS WELL AS OTHER
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GOVERNMENTS, FOR A NUMBER
OF YEARS TO COME." JAMES COMEY,
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DIRECTOR OF THE FBI
MADE A SIMILAR ASSERTION -
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SAME DAY - HE SAID, "THE THREAT,
I THINK, WILL DOMINATE THE NEXT
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FIVE YEARS FOR THE FBI.
AND THE IMPACT OF THE CRUSHING
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OF THE CALIPHATE WILL HAPPEN" -
HE SAID, ADDING, THOUGH "THROUGH
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THE FINGERS OF THAT CRUSH
ARE GOING TO COME HUNDREDS OF
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HARDENED KILLERS WHO ARE NOT
GOING TO DIE ON THE BATTLEFIELD,
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THEY'RE GOING TO FLOW OUT."
SO THESE ARE ISSUES THAT ARE
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NOT GOING TO GO AWAY QUICKLY.
NOW, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE,
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WHILE IT IS TRUE THAT
MOST ARABS ARE MUSLIM, MOST
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MUSLIMS ARE NOT
ARABS. JUDAISM - OR, RATHER,
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CHRISTIANITY IS
ROOTED IN JUDAISM, BUT MOST
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CHRISTIANS ARE NOT
JEWS. YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?
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SO, TO UNDERSTAND THIS, AND
WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT THE TWO
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PRIMARY RELIGIONS IN THE WORLD
TODAY ARE CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM
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- MORE THAN 50% AND THEY ARE
GROWING FASTER THAN BUDDHISM AND
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HINDUISM, WHICH ARE THE OTHER
PROMINENT RELIGIONS, THERE ARE
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ONLY ABOUT 16
MILLION JEWS IN THE WORLD -
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COMPARED TO THE OTHER RELIGIONS
THEY'RE VERY SMALL, BUT THEY'RE
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AN AMAZING PEOPLE IN THAT THEY
HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF INFLUENCE
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ON THE FINANCES OF
THE WORLD AND MEDIA.
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I'M JUST STATING A
FACT AND I'M A JEW.
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BUT - AND IT'S A SMALL COUNTRY
- GOT A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY, A LOT
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OF BRAINPOWER, A LOT OF
INFLUENCE - BUT WHEN YOU THINK
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ABOUT THE NUMBERS, JUDAISM IS
A VERY SMALL NUMBER COMPARED TO
00:13:34.01\00:13:38.58
THE BILLIONS YOU FIND
IN CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM.
00:13:38.58\00:13:42.25
SO, TO THINK LAST-DAY PROPHECY
IS NOT GOING TO FACTOR IN THESE
00:13:42.25\00:13:45.95
RELIGIONS, I THINK, IS RECKLESS.
00:13:45.95\00:13:48.76
SO WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO THAT,
BUT BEFORE WE DO YOU'VE GOT TO
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GO BACK IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND
IT BECAUSE THESE ANCIENT STORIES
00:13:51.79\00:13:56.06
HAVE A BEARING ON FUTURE EVENTS.
WE'RE GOING TO GO WAY BACK.
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WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE BOOK OF
GENESIS AND I THINK YOU'LL FIND,
00:14:00.47\00:14:03.37
IN THIS STUDY - GO TO GENESIS
12 IF YOU HAVE YOUR BIBLES.
00:14:03.37\00:14:07.68
I WON'T HAVE ALL THE SCRIPTURES
ON THE SCREEN BECAUSE I THINK
00:14:07.68\00:14:09.94
YOU STILL BRING
YOUR BIBLES TO CHURCH.
00:14:09.94\00:14:11.98
I WILL HAVE A FEW PICTURES AND
COMMENTS - GO TO GENESIS 12 AND
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WE'RE GOING TO BE
READING VERSES 1 TO 3.
00:14:18.59\00:14:21.22
NOW AFTER THE TOWER OF BABEL
FELL, GOD THEN CALLS SOMEONE BY
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THE NAME OF ABRAHAM AND GOD SAYS
TO ABRAHAM, 'GET OUT OF YOUR
00:14:25.33\00:14:29.56
COUNTRY, FROM YOUR FAMILY, FROM
YOUR FATHER'S HOUSE TO A LAND I
00:14:29.56\00:14:33.74
WILL SHOW YOU. I WILL
MAKE A GREAT NATION' -
00:14:33.74\00:14:37.61
DON'T MISS THAT PHRASE 'GREAT
NATION', IT'S COMING UP AGAIN -
00:14:37.61\00:14:41.01
'I'LL MAKE A GREAT NATION OF YOU
AND I WILL BLESS YOU AND MAKE
00:14:41.01\00:14:44.55
YOUR NAME GREAT AND YOU WILL BE
A BLESSING AND I'LL BLESS THOSE
00:14:44.55\00:14:48.65
WHO BLESS YOU AND I WILL CURSE
HIM WHO CURSES YOU, AND IN YOU
00:14:48.65\00:14:53.49
ALL THE FAMILIES OF
THE EARTH WILL BE BLESSED.'
00:14:53.49\00:14:56.79
THIS IS A MESSIANIC PROMISE.
THIS IS A PROMISE THAT ABRAHAM
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WOULD BE THE FAMILY -
THE TRIBE - THROUGH WHICH THE
00:15:01.43\00:15:04.57
MESSIANIC LINE - THE LINE
OF JESUS WOULD COME THROUGH
00:15:04.57\00:15:08.27
ABRAHAM. BUT
THERE WAS A PROBLEM, SO
00:15:08.27\00:15:11.64
YOU'VE GOT TO GO NOW
TO GENESIS CHAPTER 16.
00:15:11.64\00:15:14.91
AND IF YOU READ IN GENESIS 16,
VERSE 1, ABRAHAM IS, YOU KNOW,
00:15:14.91\00:15:19.85
GOD CALLS HIM AT 75 YEARS OLD TO
COME OUT OF UR OF THE CHALDEES,
00:15:19.85\00:15:24.12
SAYS, 'I'M GOING TO MAKE YOU A
GREAT NATION.' HE'S MARRIED HIS
00:15:24.12\00:15:25.95
HALF-SISTER SARAH, EVIDENTLY A
VERY BEAUTIFUL WOMAN BECAUSE HE
00:15:25.95\00:15:28.96
LIES TWICE AND SAYS IT'S
HIS SISTER BECAUSE SHE'S SO
00:15:28.96\00:15:32.43
BEAUTIFUL HE'S AFRAID THAT THE
PHILISTINES AND THE EGYPTIANS
00:15:32.43\00:15:35.76
ARE GOING TO KILL HIM AND TAKE
HIS WIFE AND SHE'S ALREADY LIKE
00:15:35.76\00:15:39.97
OVER 60 YEARS OF
AGE THE FIRST TIME.
00:15:39.97\00:15:44.17
BUT IT IS A PROBLEM. SO
THEY'VE HAD NO CHILDREN.
00:15:44.17\00:15:49.41
GOD EVEN RENAMES ABRAHAM -
GIVES HIM THE NAME FROM ABRAM TO
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ABRAHAM, WHICH MEANS 'FATHER
OF A MULTITUDE' SO IT'S, 'WHAT'S
00:15:53.38\00:15:57.69
YOUR NAME?' 'FATHER
OF A MULTITUDE.' 'OH,
00:15:57.69\00:15:59.59
REALLY, HOW MANY KIDS DO
YOU HAVE?' 'NONE YET, BUT I'M
00:15:59.59\00:16:02.16
OPTIMISTIC.' SO THAT
MUST HAVE BEEN EMBARRASSING.
00:16:02.16\00:16:06.70
AND SARAH DIDN'T WANT HIM TO BE
FOREVER EMBARRASSED AND SO YOU
00:16:06.70\00:16:09.33
READ IN CHAPTER 16, VERSE
1, "NOW SARAI, ABRAHM'S WIFE,
00:16:09.33\00:16:12.20
HAD BORNE HIM NO CHILDREN.
SHE HAD AN EGYPTIAN MAIDSERVANT
00:16:12.20\00:16:16.44
WHOSE NAME WAS HAGAR."
NOW, YOU MIGHT WONDER WHERE'D HE
00:16:16.44\00:16:19.87
GET HER, BECAUSE ABRAHAM CAME
FROM THE EAST - THAT'S NOT WHERE
00:16:19.87\00:16:23.78
- EGYPT WAS WEST
OF THE PROMISED LAND.
00:16:23.78\00:16:25.81
WELL, BEFORE CHAPTER 16, YOU'VE
GOT CHAPTER 12 - THERE WAS A
00:16:25.81\00:16:30.85
FAMINE AND ABRAHAM, AFTER HE
WENT INTO THE PROMISED LAND, HE
00:16:30.85\00:16:34.76
HAD TO GO DOWN TO EGYPT DURING
THE TIME OF FAMINE AND THE
00:16:34.76\00:16:37.56
PHARAOH THERE SENT HIM OUT
OF THE COUNTRY AND HE GAVE HIM A
00:16:37.56\00:16:41.20
LOT OF GIFTS. AND YOU
CAN READ IN GENESIS 16
00:16:41.20\00:16:43.73
- I'M SORRY, GENESIS
12:16, "HE TREATED ABRAHM
00:16:43.73\00:16:47.27
WELL FOR HER SAKE.
HE HAD SHEEP, OXEN, MALE
00:16:47.27\00:16:51.01
DONKEYS, MALE AND
FEMALE SERVANTS..."
00:16:51.01\00:16:53.74
AND SO THE PHARAOH GAVE A
LOT OF GIFTS, INCLUDING FEMALE
00:16:53.74\00:16:57.88
SERVANTS. AMONG THE
FEMALE SERVANTS THAT
00:16:57.88\00:17:00.68
WERE GIVEN TO ABRAHAM AND SARAH
IN CHAPTER 12 WAS ONE BY THE
00:17:00.68\00:17:04.59
NAME OF HAGAR AND HAGAR'S NAME
MEANS 'FUGITIVE; IMMIGRANT'.
00:17:04.59\00:17:09.96
ISN'T THAT INTERESTING?
'THE SOJOURNER' - IT ALSO HAS
00:17:09.96\00:17:14.46
BEEN USED IN ANOTHER
CONTEXT TO MEAN 'ENSNARING'.
00:17:14.46\00:17:20.10
AND SO, GOING BACK TO
GENESIS 16, SARAH HAS THIS IDEA.
00:17:20.10\00:17:24.17
SHE SAYS TO ABRAHAM,
'LOOK, I CAN'T HAVE CHILDREN,
00:17:24.17\00:17:25.84
BUT I DON'T WANT
YOU TO BE CHILDLESS.
00:17:25.84\00:17:27.31
SINCE HAGAR IS MY MAIDSERVANT,
I'LL HAVE HER WORK AS A
00:17:27.31\00:17:31.95
SURROGATE, YOU KNOW, SHE CAN
BEAR CHILDREN FOR ME.' SHE SAID,
00:17:31.95\00:17:38.29
"PLEASE, GO IN TO MY MAID;
PERHAPS I SHALL OBTAIN CHILDREN
00:17:38.29\00:17:40.79
BY HER.'" AND YOU THOUGHT
THAT WAS A MODERN PHENOMENON.
00:17:40.79\00:17:45.59
AND SO ABRAHAM,
HE JUST GOES ALONG.
00:17:45.59\00:17:48.40
HE HEEDS THE VOICE OF HIS WIFE
SARAH AND HE "TOOK HAGAR HER
00:17:48.40\00:17:53.30
MAID, THE EGYPTIAN, AND GAVE HER
TO HER HUSBAND ABRAHM" - THAT
00:17:53.30\00:17:57.67
MUST HAVE BEEN TOUGH - "TO BE
HIS WIFE, AFTER ABRAM HAD DWELT
00:17:57.67\00:18:03.21
TEN YEARS IN THE LAND OF
CANAAN." - THEY STILL HAD NO
00:18:03.21\00:18:05.35
CHILDREN - "SO HE WENT IN
TO HAGAR, AND SHE CONCEIVED.
00:18:05.35\00:18:09.05
AND WHEN SHE SAW THAT SHE HAD
CONCEIVED, HER MISTRESS BECAME
00:18:09.05\00:18:14.12
DESPISED IN HER EYES."
NOW I'VE UNDERLINED THAT.
00:18:14.12\00:18:17.26
RIGHT HERE YOU SEE - NOW KEEP IN
MIND, HAGAR IS GOING TO BE THE
00:18:17.26\00:18:21.33
MOTHER OF ISHMAEL WHO ENDS UP
BEING THE FIRST ARAB - FATHER OF
00:18:21.33\00:18:26.74
THE ARABS. SARAH,
THE MOTHER OF ISAAC -
00:18:26.74\00:18:31.77
CAN YOU IMAGINE NOW, SARAH, WHO
SHE'S THE WEALTHY ONE - SHE'S
00:18:31.77\00:18:36.58
THE REAL WIFE - HAGAR IS
A SURROGATE; SHE'S BEARING
00:18:36.58\00:18:40.05
CHILDREN FOR SARAH BUT
SHE'S HAVING HER OWN BABY.
00:18:40.05\00:18:42.32
SARAH CAN'T HAVE ANY, HAGAR'S
CONCEIVED, SHE'S BEGINNING TO
00:18:42.32\00:18:45.32
HAVE HER TUMMY SHOW, AND AS THEY
GET TOGETHER AROUND THE CAMPFIRE
00:18:45.32\00:18:48.76
AT NIGHT WITH ALL THE OTHER
SERVANTS - ABRAHAM HAD A LARGE
00:18:48.76\00:18:51.86
HOUSEHOLD - HE'S GOT 300 MEN
IN HIS HOUSEHOLD AND THE CLOSEST
00:18:51.86\00:18:54.93
NUMBER WE CAN GET - HE'S GOT 300
MEN THAT ARE PART OF AN ARMY, SO
00:18:54.93\00:18:59.50
YOU FIGURE HOW MANY MORE SUSTAIN
THAT GROUP AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S
00:18:59.50\00:19:03.71
LIKE 2,000 PEOPLE-PLUS IN
HIS HOUSEHOLD - AND THEY GATHER
00:19:03.71\00:19:07.68
AROUND THE CAMPFIRE AND HE
OFFERS SACRIFICE FOR EVERYBODY
00:19:07.68\00:19:09.98
AND THEY TELL STORIES AND - AND
THERE'S HAGAR STRUTTING AROUND,
00:19:09.98\00:19:13.68
RUBBING HER BELLY, AND SHE'S
LOOKING AT SARAH SAYING, 'TSK,
00:19:13.68\00:19:15.68
TSK, TSK, TOO BAD YOU
CAN'T HAVE ANY CHILDREN.
00:19:15.68\00:19:19.05
GOD MUST HAVE CURSED YOU.' DO
YOU REMEMBER HOW PENINNAH, THE
00:19:19.05\00:19:24.49
WIFE OF ELKANAH - ELKANAH IS
THE FATHER OF SAMUEL - PENINNAH
00:19:24.49\00:19:29.96
PERSECUTED HANNAH BECAUSE HANNAH
COULDN'T HAVE ANY CHILDREN.
00:19:29.96\00:19:33.17
BOY, WOMEN CAN BE VICIOUS
(LAUGHTER) WHEN IT COMES TO
00:19:33.17\00:19:38.41
RIVALRY, FOR A MAN.
CAN I GET AN AMEN ON THAT?
00:19:38.41\00:19:42.64
SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?
YOU SEE IT IN THE BIBLE.
00:19:42.64\00:19:44.28
LOOK AT RACHEL AND
LEAH. THEY'RE FIGHTING
00:19:44.28\00:19:46.98
WITH EACH OTHER. AND
SO, HAGAR STARTS TO DESPISE
00:19:46.98\00:19:52.19
- 'YOU'VE GOT THE MONEY.
YOU'RE THE REAL WIFE.' AND SHE
00:19:52.19\00:19:55.26
STARTS - THERE'S THIS ANIMOSITY
- THIS RIVALRY BECAUSE THE
00:19:55.26\00:19:59.43
ATTITUDES OF THE MOTHERS
GET TRANSFERRED TO THE CHILDREN.
00:19:59.43\00:20:06.00
SO THE RIVALRY BETWEEN THE
TWO - WAIT, I'M NOT DONE - 'HER
00:20:06.00\00:20:09.07
MISTRESS BECAME DESPISED IN HER
EYES.' MATTER OF FACT, I'VE BEEN
00:20:09.07\00:20:12.17
READING OUT OF MY NOTES.
I'VE GOT TO JUMP TO GENESIS 16
00:20:12.17\00:20:15.54
AND I'M GOING TO
LOOK AT THIS WITH YOU.
00:20:15.54\00:20:20.05
AND THEN SARAH SAYS TO ABRAHAM
- I'M IN VERSE 5, 'MY WRONG BE
00:20:20.05\00:20:23.62
UPON YOU. I KNOW I
GAVE YOU MY MAID, BUT
00:20:23.62\00:20:26.29
IT'S YOUR FAULT.'
"MY WRONG BE UPON YOU!
00:20:26.29\00:20:29.72
I GAVE MY MAID INTO YOUR
EMBRACE; AND WHEN SHE SAW THAT
00:20:29.72\00:20:33.09
SHE HAD CONCEIVED, I
BECAME DESPISED IN HER EYES.
00:20:33.09\00:20:35.90
THE LORD JUDGE
BETWEEN YOU AND ME."
00:20:35.90\00:20:37.87
DOESN'T THAT
SOUND LIKE A MARRIAGE?
00:20:37.87\00:20:39.50
(LAUGHTER) AND ABRAHAM SAID,
'LOOK, IT WAS YOUR IDEA.' 'BUT
00:20:39.50\00:20:44.24
YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER.'
THAT'S THE WAY I'M READING IT,
00:20:44.24\00:20:49.24
I'M SORRY. SO ABRAHAM SAID
TO SARAI 'LOOK, SHE'S YOUR MAID.
00:20:49.24\00:20:55.18
SHE'S IN YOUR HAND' - I MEAN,
HERE HE IS, FIRST HE COMPLIES
00:20:55.18\00:20:57.22
AND HE SAYS, 'OKAY, I'LL MARRY
HER.' THEN HE SAYS - HE COMPLIES
00:20:57.22\00:20:59.49
AND SAYS, 'OKAY, DO WHAT
YOU WANT. SHE'S YOUR MAID.
00:20:59.49\00:21:02.82
YOU'RE THE MISTRESS, SHE'S
THE SERVANT - DO AS YOU PLEASE.'
00:21:02.82\00:21:07.50
"AND WHEN SARAI
DEALT HARSHLY WITH HER," -
00:21:07.50\00:21:09.53
SO NOW THE ANIMOSITY IS NOT JUST
COMING FROM HAGAR TOWARDS SARAH,
00:21:09.53\00:21:12.97
IT'S COMING FROM
SARAH TOWARDS HAGAR.
00:21:12.97\00:21:14.74
YOU SEE, IT'S GOING BOTH
WAYS. WHEN SARAH DEALT HARSHLY
00:21:14.74\00:21:18.07
WITH HER SHE RUNS. I
DON'T KNOW IF THAT MEANS SHE
00:21:18.07\00:21:20.78
BEAT HER OR WHAT HAPPENED.
"SHE FLED FROM HER PRESENCE."
00:21:20.78\00:21:26.38
HAGAR TAKES OFF AND
SHE HEADS FOR THE HILLS.
00:21:26.38\00:21:29.68
"NOW THE ANGEL OF THE LORD FOUND
HER BY A SPRING OF WATER...ON
00:21:29.68\00:21:34.19
THE WAY TO SHUR. AND
HE SAID, 'HAGAR, SARAI'S
00:21:34.19\00:21:38.59
MAID, WHERE HAVE YOU COME
FROM, AND WHERE ARE YOU GOING?'"
00:21:38.59\00:21:43.37
THAT'S A QUESTION
WE ALL OUGHT TO ASK.
00:21:43.37\00:21:45.80
"SHE SAID, 'I AM FLEEING
FROM THE PRESENCE OF MY MISTRESS
00:21:45.80\00:21:48.44
SARAI.'" - SARAI, BACK THEN -
"THE ANGEL OF THE LORD SAID TO
00:21:48.44\00:21:53.51
HER, 'RETURN TO YOUR MISTRESS,
AND SUBMIT YOURSELF UNDER HER
00:21:53.51\00:21:57.21
HAND.'" - BOY, THAT MUST HAVE
BEEN TOUGH - "THEN THE ANGEL OF
00:21:57.21\00:22:01.92
THE LORD SAID TO HER, 'I
WILL MULTIPLY YOUR DESCENDANTS
00:22:01.92\00:22:05.45
EXCEEDINGLY, SO THAT THEY SHALL
NOT BE COUNTED FOR MULTITUDE.'"
00:22:05.45\00:22:09.59
YOU MIGHT MAKE A NOTE OF
THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT GOD HAD
00:22:09.59\00:22:12.53
PROMISED ABOUT ISAAC.
"AND THE ANGEL OF THE LORD SAID
00:22:12.53\00:22:16.06
TO HER: 'BEHOLD, YOU ARE WITH
CHILD, AND YOU SHALL BEAR A SON.
00:22:16.06\00:22:20.24
YOU SHALL CALL HIS NAME ISHMAEL,
BECAUSE'" - THE WORD 'EL' IN THE
00:22:20.24\00:22:25.51
BIBLE MEANS GOD - DANI-EL,
RACH-EL, MICHA-EL - AND SOME
00:22:25.51\00:22:31.18
DRAW - THERE'S A CONNECTION
BETWEEN ALLAH AND ELOHIM, BUT
00:22:31.18\00:22:36.25
I'LL TALK ABOUT
THAT MORE NEXT WEEK.
00:22:36.25\00:22:38.82
ISHMAEL MEANS 'GOD
HEARS' - 'I'VE HEARD YOUR CRY'.
00:22:38.82\00:22:43.39
SHE'S, YOU KNOW,
YOU CAN'T BLAME HAGAR.
00:22:43.39\00:22:45.56
SHE SAID, 'I WAS A SERVANT IN
EGYPT, I GOT HANDED OVER BY THE
00:22:45.56\00:22:48.40
PHARAOH TO THIS GUY NAMED
ABRAHAM, SPEAKS A DIFFERENT
00:22:48.40\00:22:50.80
LANGUAGE - I'VE STRUGGLED WITH
THE LANGUAGE - THEN SHE HANDS ME
00:22:50.80\00:22:54.10
OVER TO ABRAHAM AND SAYS,
'YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A BABY
00:22:54.10\00:22:56.10
FOR ME AND SO, HERE I HAVE A
BABY AND I'M THINKING MAYBE I'LL
00:22:56.10\00:22:58.41
GET A PROMOTION - I WON'T, YOU
KNOW, I WON'T JUST BE A SLAVE,
00:22:58.41\00:23:02.41
I'LL BE AT LEAST A CONCUBINE.
AND SARAH GETS ALL UPSET AND SHE
00:23:02.41\00:23:08.48
BEATS ME AND WHAT HAVE I DONE?'
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND
00:23:08.48\00:23:11.25
HAGAR'S NOT
FEELING GOOD ABOUT IT.
00:23:11.25\00:23:16.73
AND SARAH'S THINKING, YOU KNOW,
'WHAT HAVE I DONE THAT I CAN'T
00:23:16.73\00:23:18.59
HAVE A CHILD?'
'YOU'RE WITH CHILD.
00:23:18.59\00:23:21.96
YOU'LL BEAR A SON AND CALL HIS
NAME ISHMAEL, BECAUSE THE LORD
00:23:21.96\00:23:24.53
HAS HEARD YOUR AFFLICTION.'
NOTICE, VERSE 12: "HE SHALL BE A
00:23:24.53\00:23:27.97
WILD MAN; HIS HAND SHALL BE
AGAINST EVERY MAN, AND EVERY
00:23:27.97\00:23:33.84
MAN'S HAND AGAINST HIM.
AND HE SHALL DWELL IN THE
00:23:33.84\00:23:38.35
PRESENCE OF ALL HIS BRETHREN."
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A CONFLICT.
00:23:38.35\00:23:41.98
THERE WOULD BE SOME ANIMOSITY
BETWEEN ISHMAEL AND OTHER PEOPLE
00:23:41.98\00:23:49.59
- AND HE'D DWELL IN THE MIDST
OF HIS BRETHREN, BUT THEY WOULD
00:23:49.59\00:23:52.66
HAVE A HARD TIME
ASSIMILATING WITH OTHER PEOPLE.
00:23:52.66\00:23:57.57
AND THERE SHE CALLED THE NAME OF
THE PLACE - BECAUSE GOD SPOKE TO
00:23:57.57\00:24:01.07
HER - "YOU-ARE-THE-GOD-WHO-
SEES; FOR SHE SAID, 'HAVE I ALSO
00:24:01.07\00:24:04.37
HERE SEEN HIM WHO SEES ME?'
THEREFORE THE WELL" - WHERE GOD
00:24:04.37\00:24:08.81
APPEARED TO HER - "WAS
CALLED BEER LAHAI ROI...BETWEEN
00:24:08.81\00:24:12.41
KADESH AND BERED." ANYWAY,
SO YOU SEE THERE'S THIS CONFLICT
00:24:12.41\00:24:16.99
BETWEEN HAGAR AND SARAH.
NOW, IF YOU GO TO CHAPTER 21
00:24:16.99\00:24:23.32
OF GENESIS AND YOU SEE
THAT IT CONTINUES TO INCREASE.
00:24:23.32\00:24:31.30
"SO THE CHILD
(ISAAC) GREW AND WAS WEANED."
00:24:31.30\00:24:35.80
OH WAIT, I LEFT A VERY IMPORTANT
POINT ABOUT - YOU'VE GOT TO GO
00:24:35.80\00:24:39.54
BACK WHERE ABRAHAM THEN HAS A
VISION WHERE GOD APPEARS TO HIM
00:24:39.54\00:24:45.18
AND HE SAYS, 'I'M GOING TO GIVE
YOU A SON.' AND ABRAHAM'S GOING,
00:24:45.18\00:24:48.25
'WELL, YOU DID GIVE ME A SON,
HIS NAME'S ISHMAEL.' AND GOD IS
00:24:48.25\00:24:52.59
SAYING, 'NO, I'M GOING TO
GIVE YOU A SON BY YOUR WIFE.
00:24:52.59\00:24:55.19
I NEVER TOLD YOU TO TAKE ANOTHER
WIFE. I TOLD YOU I WAS GOING TO
00:24:55.19\00:24:58.56
MAKE YOU A FATHER OF A MULTITUDE
AND YOU LOST FAITH AND THOUGHT
00:24:58.56\00:25:02.13
YOU WERE GOING TO HELP ME OUT.
AND YOU ACCOMPLISHED, BY WORKS,
00:25:02.13\00:25:06.00
WHAT WAS SUPPOSED
TO HAPPEN BY FAITH.
00:25:06.00\00:25:08.90
YOU ACCOMPLISHED BY CARNAL
MEANS, WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO
00:25:08.90\00:25:12.07
HAPPEN BY SPIRITUAL MIRACULOUS
MEANS.' HE SAYS, 'I'M GOING TO
00:25:12.07\00:25:16.68
GIVE YOU A SON THROUGH SARAH.'
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE KNOWN
00:25:16.68\00:25:20.48
ANYONE LIKE THIS, BUT I'VE KNOWN
TWO OR THREE PEOPLE THAT - A
00:25:20.48\00:25:23.05
COUPLE - THEY TRIED TO HAVE
CHILDREN, THEY TRIED TO HAVE
00:25:23.05\00:25:24.75
CHILDREN, THEY COULDN'T
HAVE CHILDREN SO THEY ADOPT;
00:25:24.75\00:25:28.09
AND GUESS WHAT
HAPPENS? >>THEY GET PREGNANT.
00:25:28.09\00:25:30.06
>>THEN THEY HAVE CHILDREN.
ANYONE KNOW ANYONE LIKE THAT?
00:25:30.06\00:25:32.59
THEY JUST DIDN'T WAIT LONG
ENOUGH. BUT GOD, EVIDENTLY,
00:25:32.59\00:25:35.56
WANTED THAT CHILD ADOPTED AND
SO HE WORKED IT ALL OUT. BUT GOD
00:25:35.56\00:25:40.04
SAID 'YOU KNOW, YOU RAN AHEAD
OF ME. THIS WAS NOT MY PLAN.'
00:25:40.04\00:25:45.21
WHICH ALSO REMINDS US THAT
POLYGAMY IS NOT GOD'S PLAN.
00:25:45.21\00:25:49.11
IT DID NOT WORK WELL
FOR ABRAHAM OR JACOB.
00:25:49.11\00:25:52.41
I'VE ALWAYS WONDERED, YOU KNOW,
ABRAHAM HAD SEVERAL WIVES -
00:25:52.41\00:25:56.72
WE'LL GET TO THAT KETURAH LATER
- JACOB HAD FOUR WIVES, ISAAC
00:25:56.72\00:26:03.89
HAD ONE WIFE. AND EVEN THOUGH
ISAAC WAS YOUNGER, HE'S THE SON
00:26:03.89\00:26:08.53
OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC LIVED LONGER
THAN JACOB OR - IT'S JUST A FACT
00:26:08.53\00:26:14.34
- HE LIVED 180 YEARS - HE LIVED
LONGER THAN HIS FATHER LIVED AND
00:26:14.34\00:26:17.17
HE LIVED LONGER
THAN JACOB LIVED.
00:26:17.17\00:26:18.77
IT'S NOT GOD'S PLAN.
IT'LL SHORTEN YOUR LIFE SPAN.
00:26:18.77\00:26:21.01
(LAUGHTER) MAKES SENSE TO ME.
SO ABRAHAM THEN PRAYS TO GOD.
00:26:21.01\00:26:31.12
GOD SAYS, 'YOU KNOW, I'M GOING
TO GIVE YOU THIS PROMISED SON.'
00:26:31.12\00:26:33.09
HE PRAYS AND HE SAYS, 'LORD,
I WISH THAT ISHMAEL MIGHT LIVE
00:26:33.09\00:26:37.53
BEFORE YOU.' AND GOD SAID, 'HE
IS GOING TO LIVE BEFORE ME AND
00:26:37.53\00:26:42.80
I'LL BLESS HIM, BUT I'M GOING
TO GIVE YOU A CHILD BY SARAH.'
00:26:42.80\00:26:48.67
AND SO, GOD BLESSES SARAH, SHE
GETS PREGNANT - 90 YEARS OLD -
00:26:48.67\00:26:57.61
HAS A BABY. NOW 90
THEN WAS NOT LIKE 90 NOW
00:26:57.61\00:27:03.65
BECAUSE 175 IS HOW
LONG ABRAHAM LIVED.
00:27:03.65\00:27:07.86
OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVEN'T
MET ANYBODY 175 LATELY.
00:27:07.86\00:27:11.46
I'VE JUST READ AN ARTICLE ON
AGING AND WITH ALL THE PROGRESS
00:27:11.46\00:27:18.70
THAT THEY'RE MAKING IN GENETICS,
THEY DID A STUDY - SOME - I
00:27:18.70\00:27:22.94
CAN'T REMEMBER, I JUST READ
IT ON THE PLANE - SOME REPUTABLE
00:27:22.94\00:27:25.01
ORGANIZATION AND THEY SAID
THEY'VE COME TO THE CONCLUSION
00:27:25.01\00:27:29.98
THAT THE MAXIMUM LIFE SPAN
FOR MAN - THAT WITH ALL OF OUR
00:27:29.98\00:27:33.62
TECHNOLOGY, HE'S STILL NOT GOING
TO GET BEYOND 115 YEARS, BECAUSE
00:27:33.62\00:27:38.59
EVEN THOUGH YOU MIGHT DO THINGS
THAT WILL IMPROVE HIS LUNGS AND
00:27:38.59\00:27:40.89
IMPROVE HIS HEART, THERE ARE
JUST SO MANY SYSTEMS THAT ALL
00:27:40.89\00:27:44.16
BEGIN TO FAIL, THAT IS SORT
OF LIKE THE MAX OF WHAT A HUMAN,
00:27:44.16\00:27:48.70
RIGHT NOW, WITH OUR
GENES, CAN HOPE FOR.
00:27:48.70\00:27:51.80
NOW, I KNOW THEY'RE ALL HOPING
FOR A MAGIC PILL AND GOOGLE AND
00:27:51.80\00:27:54.34
PEOPLE HAVE INVESTED ALL THIS IN
TRYING TO EXTEND THE LIFE SPAN
00:27:54.34\00:27:58.71
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS BACK
IN THE BIBLE, 'THE DAYS OF OUR
00:27:58.71\00:28:02.28
YEARS WILL BE THREE SCORE
AND TEN AND IF, BY REASON OF
00:28:02.28\00:28:04.75
STRENGTH, THEY'RE FOUR SCORE,
THERE'S MUCH SORROW AND ACHES
00:28:04.75\00:28:07.62
AND PAINS.' ABRAHAM LIVED 175,
ISAAC LIVED 180, THE LAST REALLY
00:28:07.62\00:28:13.32
OLD PERSON IN THE BIBLE WAS
JEHOIADA, A HIGH PRIEST, LIVED
00:28:13.32\00:28:16.42
TO 130. REMEMBER
THE HIGH PRIEST IN
00:28:16.42\00:28:18.79
THE DAYS OF JOASH THE
KING? THAT'S THE LAST REAL
00:28:18.79\00:28:21.70
LONG LIVER IN THE BIBLE.
RUMOR IS HE HAD A LIVER ABOUT
00:28:21.70\00:28:25.30
THAT LONG. NO. (LAUGHTER)
00:28:25.30\00:28:27.04
YOU KNOW WHAT I
MEAN - DUMB JOKE, SORRY.
00:28:27.04\00:28:30.41
SO WHEN IT SAYS THAT SARAH WAS
90, 90 BACK THEN PROBABLY LOOKED
00:28:30.41\00:28:35.34
LIKE 60 NOW, WHICH
WOULD STILL BE PRETTY AMAZING.
00:28:35.34\00:28:40.78
AND SO, THEY
WERE JUST ASTOUNDED.
00:28:40.78\00:28:45.19
NOW, OF COURSE, YOU'VE GOT
ELIZABETH IN THE NEW TESTAMENT
00:28:45.19\00:28:46.82
WHO ALSO HAS A
BABY IN HER OLD AGE.
00:28:46.82\00:28:49.56
SO SHE HAS THIS SON AND THEY'RE
ALL CELEBRATING AND FINALLY,
00:28:49.56\00:28:55.16
WHEN THE BOY IS WEANED - ISAAC
IS WEANED - THEY HAVE A PARTY.
00:28:55.16\00:28:58.47
AND NOW - I'M IN GENESIS
21, VERSE 8, "AND SARAH SAW" -
00:28:58.47\00:29:03.17
THEY'RE HAVING A FAMILY PARTY
AND EVERYBODY'S CELEBRATING
00:29:03.17\00:29:06.07
EXCEPT - HOW DO
YOU THINK HAGAR FEELS?
00:29:06.07\00:29:10.08
SHE HAD 'THE BOY' BUT SARAH NOW
GETS PREGNANT AND HER BOY, WHO
00:29:10.08\00:29:14.12
SHE THOUGHT WAS GOING TO INHERIT
EVERYTHING, SUDDENLY HE GETS -
00:29:14.12\00:29:18.59
HE BECOMES A LITTLE MORE THAN
THE SERVANT'S KID AND CAN YOU
00:29:18.59\00:29:26.06
JUST SEE ALL OF HER IDEAS OF THE
PROSPERITY OF ISHMAEL AND HIS
00:29:26.06\00:29:30.17
BEING THE FIRSTBORN AND
HIS GETTING THE INHERITANCE ARE
00:29:30.17\00:29:32.67
DASHED. AND
EVERYBODY AT THE PARTY THAT
00:29:32.67\00:29:36.57
ABRAHAM THROWS FOR THE WEANING
OF ISAAC - AND THEY WEANED THEM
00:29:36.57\00:29:40.48
LATER THEN - IT MAY HAVE
BEEN FOUR OF FIVE YEARS OLD.
00:29:40.48\00:29:42.31
YOU REMEMBER WHEN SAMUEL
WAS WEANED HE WAS BROUGHT TO THE
00:29:42.31\00:29:44.25
TEMPLE? HAD TO BE A LITTLE
OLDER THAN WE WEAN THEM NOW.
00:29:44.25\00:29:48.38
AND EVERYBODY'S CELEBRATING AND
THEY'RE CLAPPING AND THEY'RE,
00:29:48.38\00:29:51.49
YOU KNOW, WOO -
WHAT DO YOU CALL IT?
00:29:51.49\00:29:53.72
THEY'RE GUSHING OVER THE BABY
AND HAGAR IS FOLDING HER ARMS
00:29:53.72\00:30:00.03
AND SHE'S STOMPING AROUND AND
ISHMAEL SEES HOW MOM FEELS AND
00:30:00.03\00:30:02.86
HE SAYS, 'I WAS THE SPOILED
PRINCE AND NOW IT'S ISAAC.' AND
00:30:02.86\00:30:09.44
HE CAN'T CONTAIN HIMSELF AND HE
BEGINS TO TAUNT AND MOCK ISAAC.
00:30:09.44\00:30:16.38
SARAH SAW - I'M IN GENESIS 21:9,
"AND SARAH SAW THE SON OF HAGAR
00:30:16.38\00:30:21.48
THE EGYPTIAN, WHOM SHE HAD
BORNE TO ABRAHAM, SCOFFING.
00:30:21.48\00:30:25.79
THEREFORE SHE SAID TO ABRAHAM,"
- BOY, THEY JUST HAD A BLOW-UP -
00:30:25.79\00:30:30.03
"'CAST OUT'" - YOU KNOW WHAT
THAT [PHRASE] 'CAST OUT' MEANS?
00:30:30.03\00:30:33.06
DIVORCE - "'CAST OUT THIS
BONDWOMAN AND HER SON; FOR THE
00:30:33.06\00:30:39.60
SON OF THIS BONDWOMAN SHALL NOT
BE HEIR WITH MY SON, NAMELY WITH
00:30:39.60\00:30:44.41
ISAAC.' AND THE MATTER WAS VERY
DISPLEASING IN ABRAHAM'S SIGHT
00:30:44.41\00:30:50.55
BECAUSE OF HIS SON."
ISHMAEL'S HIS SON - THE
00:30:50.55\00:30:52.98
FATHER LOVES HIS SON.
REMEMBER WHEN ABRAHAM PRAYED,
00:30:52.98\00:30:55.18
'LORD, WHAT ABOUT
ISHMAEL?' HE CARED ABOUT HIM.
00:30:55.18\00:30:59.79
"BUT GOD SAID TO ABRAHAM,
'DO NOT LET IT BE DISPLEASING IN
00:30:59.79\00:31:05.33
YOUR SIGHT BECAUSE OF THE LAD
OR BECAUSE OF YOUR BONDWOMAN.
00:31:05.33\00:31:09.66
WHATEVER SARAH HAS SAID TO YOU,
LISTEN TO HER VOICE;'" - NOW
00:31:09.66\00:31:14.37
THAT'S NOT A SCRIPTURE YOU'RE
SUPPOSED TO TAKE TOO FAR -
00:31:14.37\00:31:16.60
(LAUGHTER)
"'WHATEVER SARAH HAS SAID TO
00:31:16.60\00:31:20.88
YOU, LISTEN TO HER VOICE;
FOR IN ISAAC YOUR SEED SHALL BE
00:31:20.88\00:31:24.88
CALLED.'" SO YOU SEE RIGHT
AWAY WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS?
00:31:24.88\00:31:28.48
THE PROMISED SEED - THE MESSIAH
- WAS GOING TO COME, NOT THROUGH
00:31:28.48\00:31:31.59
ISHMAEL, BUT THROUGH ISAAC.
AND WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE NEW
00:31:31.59\00:31:34.79
TESTAMENT IN A
MINUTE AND LOOK AT THAT.
00:31:34.79\00:31:36.76
"'YET I WILL ALSO MAKE A NATION
OF THE SON OF THE BONDWOMAN
00:31:36.76\00:31:39.49
(ISHMAEL), BECAUSE HE IS YOUR
SEED.' SO ABRAHAM ROSE EARLY IN
00:31:39.49\00:31:43.80
THE MORNING," - HE HAD TO DO
SOMETHING VERY DIFFICULT - "AND
00:31:43.80\00:31:48.10
TOOK BREAD AND A SKIN OF WATER;"
- NOW, I JUST WANT TO STOP RIGHT
00:31:48.10\00:31:50.67
HERE AND MENTION SOMETHING ABOUT
ABRAHAM YOU'RE GOING TO NOTICE:
00:31:50.67\00:31:53.88
WHEN GOD TOLD ABRAHAM TO DO
SOMETHING, HE DID IT RIGHT AWAY.
00:31:53.88\00:31:58.75
ABRAHAM OBEYED. GOD SAID,
'I WANT YOU TO CIRCUMCISE AS A
00:31:58.75\00:32:03.95
COVENANT' - THAT DAY -
HE DOESN'T WAIT - EVERYBODY,
00:32:03.95\00:32:09.26
INCLUDING HIMSELF AND
HIS SON ARE CIRCUMCISED.
00:32:09.26\00:32:12.29
ISHMAEL WAS 13 AND ABRAHAM,
IT WAS JUST BEFORE HE WAS LIKE
00:32:12.29\00:32:17.47
90-SOMETHING, ARE CIRCUMCISED.
GOD SAYS, 'I WANT YOU TO OFFER
00:32:17.47\00:32:24.37
YOUR SON.' HE
DOES IT RIGHT AWAY.
00:32:24.37\00:32:28.24
AND GOD SAID, 'I WANT YOU
TO CAST OUT THE BONDWOMAN.' HE
00:32:28.24\00:32:31.25
DOESN'T SAY, 'ALRIGHT' THEN 90
DAYS LATER - BOY, THE NEXT DAY
00:32:31.25\00:32:34.25
HE SADDLES HER UP AND HE SAYS,
'YOU'VE GOT TO GO.' AS SOON AS
00:32:34.25\00:32:37.35
HE KNOWS SOMETHING IS GOD'S
WILL, HE DOES IT, EVEN THOUGH
00:32:37.35\00:32:40.92
IT'S DIFFICULT. WE COULD ALL
LEARN SOMETHING FROM ABRAHAM.
00:32:40.92\00:32:44.83
WHEN YOU KNOW SOMETHING'S
GOD'S WILL, THE LONGER YOU
00:32:44.83\00:32:46.59
DILLY-DALLY, THE DEVIL WILL GIVE
YOU RATIONALIZATIONS TO NOT DO
00:32:46.59\00:32:49.46
IT. I WAS TALKING
WITH A FRIEND THIS
00:32:49.46\00:32:52.43
WEEK WHO USED TO GO TO CHURCH
AND HAS BEEN MISSING CHURCH.
00:32:52.43\00:32:56.77
AND HE CONFESSED TO ME - HE
SAID, 'YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T BEEN
00:32:56.77\00:32:58.37
THERE IN A WHILE, SO YOU PRAY
FOR ME PASTOR DOUG.' I SAID,
00:32:58.37\00:33:01.48
'I'LL PRAY FOR YOU,
BUT WHAT ABOUT TOMORROW?'
00:33:01.48\00:33:04.21
I SAID, 'HOW
ABOUT GOING TOMORROW?'
00:33:04.21\00:33:06.25
I SAID, 'I CAN PRAY FOR YOU, BUT
YOU CAN CHANGE - TOMORROW.' AND,
00:33:06.25\00:33:11.79
IN OTHER WORDS, 'RIGHT AWAY',
BECAUSE THAT WAS THE FIRST
00:33:11.79\00:33:13.62
SABBATH. ANYWAY -
SO HE SENT HER AWAY
00:33:13.62\00:33:18.93
- HE ROSE UP EARLY THE NEXT
MORNING AND HE TOOK BREAD AND A
00:33:18.93\00:33:21.06
SKIN OF WATER; HE PUT IT ON HER
SHOULDERS, HE GAVE HER THE BOY
00:33:21.06\00:33:24.87
- TO HAGAR - AND SENT HER AWAY.
HE GAVE HER SOME FINANCES BUT
00:33:24.87\00:33:27.97
INSTEAD OF GOING TO A
TOWN, SHE'S ALL BROKEN HEARTED.
00:33:27.97\00:33:30.41
SHE GOES OUT
INTO THE WILDERNESS.
00:33:30.41\00:33:32.64
SHE DEPARTED AND SHE WANDERED
IN THE WILDERNESS OF BEERSHEBA.
00:33:32.64\00:33:36.75
SHE KNEW HOW TO
GET BACK TO EGYPT.
00:33:36.75\00:33:39.98
"AND THE WATER IN THE SKIN
WAS USED UP," - AND THEY BECAME
00:33:39.98\00:33:45.09
DEHYDRATED - IT MAY HAVE BEEN
A DRY PART OF THE YEAR - THERE'S
00:33:45.09\00:33:47.56
NO RAIN, THE SPRINGS ARE GOING
DRY - AND IT GOT SO BAD THAT
00:33:47.56\00:33:51.99
THEY'RE DYING OF THIRST.
NOW THAT CAN HAPPEN QUICKLY.
00:33:51.99\00:33:55.43
I DID AN AMAZING FACT, I THINK
IT WAS THIS YEAR, ABOUT A FATHER
00:33:55.43\00:34:02.27
AND A MOTHER FROM FRANCE WITH
THEIR 8-YEAR-OLD BOY DECIDED
00:34:02.27\00:34:06.84
THEY WERE GOING TO WALK
ACROSS THE WHITE SANDS NATIONAL
00:34:06.84\00:34:09.38
MONUMENT IN
ALAMOGORDO, NEW MEXICO.
00:34:09.38\00:34:12.91
AND IT'S ONLY ABOUT A 10-MILE
WALK, BUT IT WAS A VERY HOT DAY
00:34:12.91\00:34:16.25
AND THEY DIDN'T TAKE ENOUGH
WATER WITH THEM AND ALONG THE
00:34:16.25\00:34:18.29
WAY THEY BEGAN RUNNING OUT
OF WATER, THEY BECAME EXTREMELY
00:34:18.29\00:34:20.86
THIRSTY - AND THEY KEPT
GIVING THEIR WATER TO THE BOY.
00:34:20.86\00:34:23.66
WELL, FINALLY, WHEN THEY WERE
FOUND, THE BOY WAS ALIVE AND
00:34:23.66\00:34:26.09
BOTH PARENTS HAD DIED.
ONE DAY OUT IN THE DESERT.
00:34:26.09\00:34:30.33
SO, IT CAN HAPPEN. SO SHE
WANDERED AND MAYBE SHE GOT LOST
00:34:30.33\00:34:34.70
AND SHE RAN OUT OF WATER AND
SHE THOUGHT, 'WE'RE DONE FOR.
00:34:34.70\00:34:37.57
WE'RE GOING TO DIE.' BUT GOD
PROMISED THAT THAT BOY WAS GOING
00:34:37.57\00:34:39.77
TO BE A GREAT NATION.
HE WASN'T GOING TO DIE.
00:34:39.77\00:34:42.91
AND SHE PUT HIM UNDER A BUSH
- LOOKING FOR SHADE, I EXPECT -
00:34:42.91\00:34:46.51
AND SHE WENT AND - SHE SAID, 'I
DON'T WANT TO SIT HERE AND WATCH
00:34:46.51\00:34:49.05
HIM DIE.' SHE WENT AND SAT ABOUT
A BOW'S DISTANCE FROM HIM -
00:34:49.05\00:34:51.95
DIDN'T WANT TO
HEAR HIM CRY AND DIE.
00:34:51.95\00:34:54.02
SHE SAID, "LET ME NOT
SEE THE DEATH OF THE BOY."
00:34:54.02\00:34:58.23
NOBODY SHOULD HAVE TO
WATCH THEIR CHILD DIE.
00:34:58.23\00:35:03.26
SHE SAT OPPOSITE OF HIM AND
SHE LIFTED UP HER VOICE AND SHE
00:35:03.26\00:35:05.90
WEPT. SHE SAT
ACROSS THE HILL FROM HIM
00:35:05.90\00:35:09.47
- "AND GOD HEARD
THE VOICE OF THE LAD."
00:35:09.47\00:35:11.64
NOW THAT MEANS, NOT
ONLY - HE'S 13 YEARS OLD.
00:35:11.64\00:35:13.78
HE'S INTELLIGENT.
SHE'S NOT ONLY CRYING AND
00:35:13.78\00:35:17.75
PRAYING, HE IS PRAYING - ISHMAEL
- AND CRYING. BECAUSE IT'S NOT -
00:35:17.75\00:35:23.52
GOD DIDN'T JUST HEAR HER VOICE,
HE HEARD THE VOICE OF THE LAD.
00:35:23.52\00:35:27.46
"THEN THE ANGEL OF GOD CALLED TO
HAGAR OUT OF HEAVEN, AND SAID TO
00:35:27.46\00:35:31.23
HER, 'WHAT AILS YOU,
HAGAR?'" - DID GOD KNOW?
00:35:31.23\00:35:36.40
- "'WHAT AILS YOU HAGAR?
FEAR NOT, FOR GOD HAS HEARD THE
00:35:36.40\00:35:41.14
VOICE OF THE LAD WHERE HE IS.
ARISE, LIFT UP THE LAD AND HOLD
00:35:41.14\00:35:45.97
HIM WITH YOUR HAND, FOR I
WILL MAKE HIM A GREAT NATION.'
00:35:45.97\00:35:50.51
THEN GOD OPENED HER EYES.
AND SHE SAW A WELL OF WATER."
00:35:50.51\00:35:54.25
ISN'T IT AMAZING HOW GOD
HELPS YOU FIND WATER AT THE LAST
00:35:54.25\00:35:56.48
MINUTE? I
REMEMBER BEING LOST IN THE
00:35:56.48\00:36:01.99
DESERT AND - ON TWO OCCASIONS
- ONCE I ACTUALLY CALLED KAREN.
00:36:01.99\00:36:06.76
I WAS OUT IN NEVADA WITH MY
FRIENDS AND WE RAN OUT OF GAS
00:36:06.76\00:36:09.73
AND WE RAN OUT OF WATER
AND WE WERE IN THE DESERT.
00:36:09.73\00:36:11.73
IT WAS VERY HOT AND I HAD
STEPHEN WITH ME AND WE WERE
00:36:11.73\00:36:14.70
WORRIED BECAUSE WE THOUGHT WE
WERE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT CUT
00:36:14.70\00:36:16.97
BACK TO WHERE WE KNEW WATER WAS
AND IT ENDED UP BEING A LONG WAY
00:36:16.97\00:36:19.91
AROUND AND WE REALIZED WE'RE
NOT GOING TO GET BACK WITHOUT
00:36:19.91\00:36:21.84
RUNNING OUT OF GAS. I
CALLED HER - I GOT TO THE TOP
00:36:21.84\00:36:25.45
OF A HILL - I GOT A SIGNAL AND
I SAID, 'WELL, KAREN, WE'RE OKAY
00:36:25.45\00:36:28.78
BUT WE'RE OUT OF
WATER AND WE'RE OUT OF GAS.'
00:36:28.78\00:36:30.75
>>AND WE'RE LOST.
>>'AND WE'RE LOST.'
00:36:30.75\00:36:33.66
AND WE FOUND A SPRING WAY UP
IN THIS MOUNTAIN - WE FOUND A
00:36:33.66\00:36:39.86
SPRING AND WE STARTED DIGGING.
AND COWS HAD ALSO FOUND THE
00:36:39.86\00:36:43.53
SPRING AND SO WE HAD TO
DIG AND TRY AND CLEAN IT OUT.
00:36:43.53\00:36:47.07
WHEN WE FIRST FILLED - OUR
FIRST LITTLE EMPTY PLASTIC WATER
00:36:47.07\00:36:49.84
BOTTLES, YOU KNOW, STEPHEN
SAID, 'I'M NOT DRINKING THAT!'
00:36:49.84\00:36:53.71
(LAUGHTER) BECAUSE IT WAS CLOUDY
AND HE SAW US ALL DRINKING IT
00:36:53.71\00:36:58.95
GOING, 'OH, IT'S SO COLD.' WE
GOT IT RIGHT WHERE IT CAME OUT
00:36:58.95\00:37:01.02
OF THE GROUND - TRIED TO GET
IT AS CLEAN AS WE COULD, BUT IT
00:37:01.02\00:37:03.72
STILL HAD CLAY IN
IT. 'OH, IT'S SO GOOD!'
00:37:03.72\00:37:07.19
STEPHEN SAID, 'I'M
NOT DRINKING THAT!'
00:37:07.19\00:37:08.59
WE WERE ALL, 'THIS IS SO GOOD.'
HE SAID, 'OKAY, GIVE IT TO ME!'
00:37:08.59\00:37:12.96
AND SO - WHEN I HEAR ABOUT GOD
SHOWED HIM THE WATER - REMEMBER
00:37:12.96\00:37:16.83
WHEN SAMSON - HE WON THAT BATTLE
AND HE WAS DYING OF THIRST,
00:37:16.83\00:37:19.27
HE SAID, 'WHAT GOOD IS
IT? I'VE WON THE BATTLE - I'M
00:37:19.27\00:37:20.47
DYING.' AND GOD ALL OF A
SUDDEN MADE A SPRING COME
00:37:20.47\00:37:23.54
UP OUT OF THE GROUND. SO
WHEN WE'RE AT OUR WITS' END,
00:37:23.54\00:37:26.78
CAN GOD TAKE CARE OF OUR
NEEDS? CAN HE BRING WATER
00:37:26.78\00:37:29.61
OUT OF THE DESERT?
GOD OPENED HER EYES
00:37:29.61\00:37:32.71
AND SHE SAW A
WELL. IT WAS THERE, BUT
00:37:32.71\00:37:34.55
SHE FINALLY SAW IT.
"AND SHE WENT AND FILLED THE
00:37:34.55\00:37:36.89
SKIN WITH WATER, AND
GAVE THE LAD A DRINK.
00:37:36.89\00:37:39.49
SO GOD WAS WITH THE LAD;" -
SHE NEVER WENT BACK TO EGYPT.
00:37:39.49\00:37:43.32
HE WAS IN THE WILDERNESS AND HE
BECAME AN ARCHER - HE BECAME A
00:37:43.32\00:37:46.09
SKILLED HUNTER - "AND HE DWELT
IN THE WILDERNESS OF PARAN; AND
00:37:46.09\00:37:51.13
HIS MOTHER TOOK A WIFE FOR
HIM FROM THE LAND OF EGYPT."
00:37:51.13\00:37:54.37
DON'T MISS THAT. SO,
GOING BACK TO OUR MESSAGE
00:37:54.37\00:38:00.81
HERE, I WANT YOU TO NOTICE NOW
THAT THERE'S A PERSECUTION THAT
00:38:00.81\00:38:05.95
HAPPENS BETWEEN
ISHMAEL AND ISAAC.
00:38:05.95\00:38:09.62
ISHMAEL ENDS UP BEING THE FATHER
OF THE ARABS WHICH, OF COURSE,
00:38:09.62\00:38:12.55
IS WHERE YOU GET ISLAM.
AND ISAAC BECOMES THE FATHER OF
00:38:12.55\00:38:17.46
THE JEWS AND, SUBSEQUENTLY, THE
CHRISTIANS, THROUGH WHICH CHRIST
00:38:17.46\00:38:21.03
CAME. ONE PERSECUTES THE OTHER.
THIS IS WHERE IT STARTS RELATING
00:38:21.03\00:38:25.13
TO WHAT'S GOING ON
IN THE WORLD TODAY.
00:38:25.13\00:38:27.37
NOW, YOU MIGHT BE THINKING,
'WELL, THAT 13-YEAR-OLD BOY
00:38:27.37\00:38:29.70
TAUNTING BABY ISAAC' - I GUESS
HE WAS MORE THAN 13 AT THAT
00:38:29.70\00:38:33.98
POINT, BECAUSE HE WAS 13 WHEN
HE WAS CIRCUMCISED, HE MUST HAVE
00:38:33.98\00:38:36.98
BEEN 17 OR SO AT THAT POINT -
'HOW CAN THAT BE PERSECUTION?'
00:38:36.98\00:38:43.28
WELL, LISTEN TO WHAT PAUL
SAYS IN GALATIANS 4, SPEAKING OF
00:38:43.28\00:38:46.25
ISAAC AND ISHMAEL, PAUL
SAYS, "BUT, AS HE WHO WAS BORN
00:38:46.25\00:38:51.39
ACCORDING TO THE FLESH (ISHMAEL)
PERSECUTED HIM WHO WAS BORN
00:38:51.39\00:38:56.23
ACCORDING TO THE
SPIRIT, EVEN SO IT IS NOW."
00:38:56.23\00:39:00.44
PAUL SAYS WHAT HAPPENED THERE
BETWEEN ISHMAEL AND ISAAC WAS A
00:39:00.44\00:39:03.84
PERSECUTION OF
ONE AGAINST THE OTHER.
00:39:03.84\00:39:07.64
I ALSO WANT YOU TO NOTICE -
YOU GO TO GENESIS 37:28 - WHEN
00:39:07.64\00:39:11.55
JOSEPH WAS SOLD, NOW SIMEON
WANTED TO JUST KILL JOSEPH;
00:39:11.55\00:39:16.69
RUBEN WANTED TO SAVE JOSEPH;
JUDAH WANTED TO SELL JOSEPH.
00:39:16.69\00:39:22.09
YOU WONDER WHY JOSEPH ENDED UP
PUTTING SIMEON IN JAIL UNTIL THE
00:39:22.09\00:39:24.93
BROTHERS CAME BACK; HE WAS
PROBABLY THE CHIEF INSTIGATOR
00:39:24.93\00:39:27.30
THAT WANTED HIM MURDERED.
REUBEN TRIED TO SNEAK HIM AWAY
00:39:27.30\00:39:30.47
BUT JUDAH SAID, 'HEY, WHY KILL
HIM? HE'S OUR BROTHER, LET'S
00:39:30.47\00:39:32.77
SELL HIM AND MAKE A
PROFIT.' WHO DID HE SELL HIM TO?
00:39:32.77\00:39:37.94
LET'S READ IT: GENESIS 37:28,
"THEN MIDIANITE TRADERS" - WHAT
00:39:37.94\00:39:42.18
ARE THEY CALLED?
>>MIDIANITE TRADERS.
00:39:42.18\00:39:43.78
>>"MIDIANITE TRADERS PASSED BY;
SO THE BROTHERS PULLED JOSEPH UP
00:39:43.78\00:39:46.98
AND LIFTED HIM OUT OF THE PIT,
AND SOLD HIM TO THE ISHMAELITES"
00:39:46.98\00:39:52.45
- MIDIAN WAS ANOTHER SON OF
ABRAHAM BY THE WIFE HE MARRIED
00:39:52.45\00:39:59.36
AFTER SARAH DIED, NAMED KETURAH
- HE HAD SEVERAL SONS WITH HER -
00:39:59.36\00:40:03.70
SO THERE WAS NEVER A PROBLEM
WITH THE VIRILITY OF ABRAHAM
00:40:03.70\00:40:06.84
BECAUSE HE HAD
CHILDREN PRETTY LATE IN LIFE.
00:40:06.84\00:40:10.24
MIDIAN AND - I WANT YOU TO KNOW
THAT THE ISHMAELITES, BECAUSE
00:40:10.24\00:40:16.04
THEY WERE TRADERS, THEY
CIRCULATED - THEY INTERMARRIED A
00:40:16.04\00:40:20.12
LOT WITH THE
OTHER SONS OF ABRAHAM.
00:40:20.12\00:40:23.15
SO AMONG THE ARABS YOU'RE
NOT ONLY GOING TO FIND THE
00:40:23.15\00:40:25.25
DESCENDENTS OF ISHMAEL, WHO
WAS THE OLDEST, BUT THERE'S SOME
00:40:25.25\00:40:28.19
INTERMARRIAGE GOING ON WITH
MIDIAN AND THE OTHER SONS BY
00:40:28.19\00:40:30.69
KETURAH THAT HAPPENS, AND I'LL
PROVE THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.
00:40:30.69\00:40:34.56
SOMETHING I WANT YOU TO NOTICE:
NOW, LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I'M
00:40:34.56\00:40:36.36
GOING TO SAY IN CONCLUDING THIS
MESSAGE - I'M NOT QUITE DONE,
00:40:36.36\00:40:39.87
BUT THE POINT I'M TRYING TO WRAP
UP: THESE TWO SONS OF ISAAC AND
00:40:39.87\00:40:45.54
ISHMAEL ARE, IN SOME RESPECTS,
PARALLEL - IT'S ALMOST LIKE
00:40:45.54\00:40:50.48
THEY'RE POLAR OPPOSITES,
BUT I WANT YOU TO NOTICE TWELVE
00:40:50.48\00:40:55.12
PRINCES. YOU KNOW WHAT THE ODDS
00:40:55.12\00:40:57.75
ARE OF HAVING TWELVE SONS? I
WAS LOOKING THAT UP TODAY - OR
00:40:57.75\00:41:02.92
THIS WEEK, RATHER - AND I READ
ABOUT JAY AND KATERI SCHWANDT OF
00:41:02.92\00:41:08.20
ROCKFORD, MICHIGAN - THEY
HAD TWELVE SONS; NO GIRLS.
00:41:08.20\00:41:12.87
AND THEY CALCULATED THE ODDS OF
THAT HAPPENING ARE ONE IN 4,000
00:41:12.87\00:41:16.54
- IT'S JUST LIKE
REALLY A JACKPOT.
00:41:16.54\00:41:19.77
I WAS ON THE AIRPLANE THIS LAST
WEEK COMING BACK FROM MARYLAND -
00:41:19.77\00:41:22.78
I SAT BETWEEN TWO BROTHERS AND I
WAS KIND OF HOPING FOR AN AISLE
00:41:22.78\00:41:26.08
OR WINDOW SEAT - ONE OF THEM
WANTED THE AISLE AND ONE OF THEM
00:41:26.08\00:41:27.92
WANTED THE WINDOW SO I
HAD TO SIT BETWEEN THEM.
00:41:27.92\00:41:29.62
AND I LOOKED AT THEM - SUSPECTED
THEY WERE BROTHERS - STARTED
00:41:29.62\00:41:31.39
TALKING TO THEM - TWO BOYS
- HOME SCHOOLED - CHRISTIANS -
00:41:31.39\00:41:34.16
COMING BACK FROM A CONVENTION.
I TOLD THEM I WAS A CHRISTIAN.
00:41:34.16\00:41:36.49
THEY WERE HAPPY TO TALK TO ME.
00:41:36.49\00:41:37.76
AND THEY SAID, 'YEAH, WE'RE TWO
OF SEVEN BROTHERS - NO GIRLS.' I
00:41:37.76\00:41:42.63
SAID, 'WELL, THAT'S REALLY
SOMETHING.' I SAID, 'I ACTUALLY
00:41:42.63\00:41:45.27
KNOW ANOTHER FAMILY IN OUR
CHURCH WHERE THEY HAVE SEVEN
00:41:45.27\00:41:47.74
BOYS, NO GIRLS.' THIS FAMILY
HAD TWELVE BOYS - I THINK THE
00:41:47.74\00:41:52.27
PICTURE OF THEM ON THE SCREEN
- SINCE THE REPORT I READ, I
00:41:52.27\00:41:55.54
LOOKED - CHECKED UP
ONLINE - SHE GOT PREGNANT.
00:41:55.54\00:41:57.88
EVERYONE WAS SO
EXCITED - SHE HAD ONE MORE.
00:41:57.88\00:42:00.45
WHAT DO YOU THINK? >>BOY.
00:42:00.45\00:42:01.92
>>ANOTHER BOY. THIRTEEN
BOYS. SO IT'S NOT THAT COMMON,
00:42:01.92\00:42:07.76
BUT IT DOES HAPPEN. BUT
HOW COMMON WOULD IT BE IN
00:42:07.76\00:42:12.49
ONE FAMILY, FOR TWO BOYS
- TO HAVE TWELVE SONS AND AT
00:42:12.49\00:42:18.67
LEAST ONE DAUGHTER?
DO THE MATH ON THAT.
00:42:18.67\00:42:21.87
YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT
HAPPENED WITH ISHMAEL AND JACOB.
00:42:21.87\00:42:25.77
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ISHMAEL
AND ISAAC, BUT JACOB IS THE SON
00:42:25.77\00:42:27.71
OF ISAAC. NOTICE
HERE: THEY HAVE TWELVE
00:42:27.71\00:42:31.01
SONS - GENESIS 17:20, "AND AS
FOR ISHMAEL," - WE'RE REVERSING
00:42:31.01\00:42:34.98
- OR WE'RE BACKTRACKING A
LITTLE TO REPEAT AND EMPHASIZE
00:42:34.98\00:42:37.69
SOMETHING - "AS FOR
ISHMAEL, I HAVE HEARD YOU.
00:42:37.69\00:42:40.12
BEHOLD, I HAVE BLESSED HIM,
AND WILL MAKE HIM FRUITFUL," -
00:42:40.12\00:42:43.89
ABRAHAM PRAYED FOR
ISHMAEL - "AND WILL MULTIPLY HIM
00:42:43.89\00:42:46.90
EXCEEDINGLY. HE
SHALL BEGET TWELVE PRINCES,
00:42:46.90\00:42:50.37
AND I WILL MAKE
HIM A GREAT NATION."
00:42:50.37\00:42:52.80
NOW I WANT YOU TO NOTICE WHAT IT
SAYS HERE ABOUT ISHMAEL AGAIN -
00:42:52.80\00:42:58.87
GENESIS 25:16, "THESE WERE THE
SONS OF ISHMAEL AND THESE WERE
00:42:58.87\00:43:02.54
THEIR NAMES, BY THEIR TOWNS
AND THEIR SETTLEMENTS, TWELVE
00:43:02.54\00:43:05.01
PRINCES ACCORDING
TO THEIR NATIONS."
00:43:05.01\00:43:08.48
SO NATIONS CAME OUT OF ISHMAEL.
00:43:08.48\00:43:11.59
YOU GO TO GENESIS 35 AND IT
SAYS, 'NOW THESE ARE THE SONS OF
00:43:11.59\00:43:15.79
JACOB - TWELVE.' BUT WAIT,
THERE'S MORE: "AND ESAU" - YOU
00:43:15.79\00:43:22.80
KNOW WHO ESAU IS - I KNOW -
SOME OF YOU LADIES ARE HAVING NO
00:43:22.80\00:43:24.93
PROBLEM FOLLOWING THIS -
THE GUYS, WHEN YOU START TALKING
00:43:24.93\00:43:26.74
ABOUT THEY'RE RELATED TO HIM
BY THIS PERSON AND THAT PERSON,
00:43:26.74\00:43:28.94
THEY GO, 'WELL, I CAN'T FIGURE
THAT OUT.' BUT JACOB AND ESAU
00:43:28.94\00:43:32.77
ARE BROTHERS. JACOB AND ESAU ARE
00:43:32.77\00:43:34.08
THE SONS OF ISAAC.
ESAU, HE WAS THE SON OF THE
00:43:34.08\00:43:37.75
FLESH; ISAAC THE
SON OF THE SPIRIT.
00:43:37.75\00:43:39.58
THE PROMISE CAME THROUGH JACOB,
BUT ESAU, WHEN HE SAW THAT
00:43:39.58\00:43:44.25
REBEKAH AND ISAAC WERE UPSET
THAT HE HAD MARRIED CANAANITE
00:43:44.25\00:43:47.49
GIRLS AND THEY HAD SENT JACOB
ALL THE WAY BACK TO HARAN TO GET
00:43:47.49\00:43:52.06
A GIRL WHO BELIEVED IN YAHWEH,
HE SAID, 'WELL, ALRIGHT, IF
00:43:52.06\00:43:55.90
IT'LL MAKE YOU HAPPY, I'LL MARRY
ONE.' AND IT SAYS ESAU MARRIED
00:43:55.90\00:43:59.40
ISHMAEL'S DAUGHTER. SO
NOT ONLY DID ISHMAEL HAVE
00:43:59.40\00:44:04.01
TWELVE BOYS, HE
HAD AT LEAST ONE GIRL.
00:44:04.01\00:44:06.14
YOU WITH ME? >>YES.
00:44:06.14\00:44:08.71
>>AND THAT'S IN GENESIS 28:9,
"SO ESAU WENT TO ISHMAEL AND
00:44:08.71\00:44:12.28
TOOK MAHALATH THE DAUGHTER OF
ISHMAEL, ABRAHAM'S SON," - THE
00:44:12.28\00:44:16.92
SISTER OF THE FIRSTBORN OF
ISHMAEL - TO BE HIS WIFE IN
00:44:16.92\00:44:20.72
ADDITION TO THE WIVES HE
HAD." DID JACOB ALSO HAVE ONE
00:44:20.72\00:44:26.70
DAUGHTER AND TWELVE SONS?
YOU'RE SEEING, IN THESE TWO
00:44:26.70\00:44:30.53
NATIONS, BECAUSE THE JEWS CAME,
PRINCIPALLY, THROUGH JACOB AND
00:44:30.53\00:44:35.07
THE ARABS CAME, PRINCIPALLY,
THROUGH ISHMAEL, ALMOST POLAR
00:44:35.07\00:44:38.74
OPPOSITES - THERE'S A
PARALLEL HAPPENING HERE.
00:44:38.74\00:44:41.14
AND WHAT ARE THE TWO GREAT
RELIGIONS IN THE WORLD TODAY?
00:44:41.14\00:44:43.85
THEY SPRING FROM THESE
TWO FAMILIES THAT YOU SEE.
00:44:43.85\00:44:47.55
AND THE SAME PERSECUTION AND
ESTRANGEMENT THAT YOU SAW WAY
00:44:47.55\00:44:53.69
BACK IN THE DAYS AROUND THE
CAMPFIRE WITH SARAH, ABRAHAM,
00:44:53.69\00:44:57.16
ISHMAEL, HAGAR AND ISAAC,
ARE GOING TO PLAY OUT IN FINAL
00:44:57.16\00:45:01.33
PROPHECY. THAT'S MY THEORY
THAT I'VE BECOME CONVINCED OF.
00:45:01.33\00:45:05.27
I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO
BELIEVES THAT, BY THE WAY.
00:45:05.27\00:45:08.17
SO, NOTICE A FEW STATEMENTS: IT
SAYS OF ISHMAEL, 'I'M GOING TO
00:45:08.17\00:45:12.11
MAKE YOU A GREAT NATION.'
LOOK AT SOME OF THESE PARALLELS:
00:45:12.11\00:45:15.21
GENESIS 21:17, 'GOD HEARD THE
VOICE OF THE LAD' - HEARD HIM
00:45:15.21\00:45:19.35
CRY - 'I WILL MAKE HIM A GREAT
NATION.' IT ALSO SAYS, REGARDING
00:45:19.35\00:45:25.25
ISAAC, 'I AM THE GOD OF YOUR
FATHER; DO NOT FEAR TO GO DOWN
00:45:25.25\00:45:29.62
TO EGYPT. I WILL
MAKE OF YOU A GREAT
00:45:29.62\00:45:31.73
NATION.' ACTUALLY
HE SAID THAT TO JACOB.
00:45:31.73\00:45:33.73
SO YOU'VE GOT TWO GREAT
NATIONS HAVE COME OUT OF ABRAHAM
00:45:33.73\00:45:36.97
SPRINGING FROM TWELVE SONS.
THE NUMBER TWELVE IN THE BIBLE
00:45:36.97\00:45:40.44
REPRESENTS CHURCH - IT'S A
RELIGION - RELIGIOUS LEADERSHIP
00:45:40.44\00:45:45.57
- TWELVE APOSTLES -
JESUS USED THAT NUMBER.
00:45:45.57\00:45:48.28
HE COULD HAVE PICKED ELEVEN,
FOURTEEN - SO YOU'VE GOT A
00:45:48.28\00:45:52.28
RELIGION THAT COMES FROM ISHMAEL
AND YOU'VE GOT A RELIGION THAT
00:45:52.28\00:45:55.62
COMES FROM ISAAC - IT SAYS 'YOUR
OFFSPRING WILL BE INNUMERABLE' -
00:45:55.62\00:46:01.89
I'LL MULTIPLY YOUR DESCENDENTS
- GENESIS 16:9 AND 10 - AND
00:46:01.89\00:46:07.96
THERE'S - YOU'VE
GOT A MAP ON THE SCREEN.
00:46:07.96\00:46:10.50
YOU CAN SEE THE DARK GREEN
COLORS ON THE MAP REPRESENT THE
00:46:10.50\00:46:14.74
CONCENTRATIONS OF THE WORLD
WHERE 99-PERCENT UP TO A HUNDRED
00:46:14.74\00:46:18.14
PERCENT ARE ISLAMIC - AND THESE
ARE THE COUNTRIES THAT FLOWED
00:46:18.14\00:46:22.78
OUT FROM SAUDI ARABIA THAT KIND
OF ENGULFED SOME OF THESE GREAT
00:46:22.78\00:46:27.98
EMPIRES. YOU READ
ALSO IN GENESIS 26 -
00:46:27.98\00:46:32.19
TO ISAAC HE SAID, 'I WILL MAKE
YOUR DESCENDENTS MULTIPLY LIKE
00:46:32.19\00:46:34.82
THE STARS OF HEAVEN. I WILL
GIVE YOUR DESCENDENTS ALL THESE
00:46:34.82\00:46:38.09
LANDS.' BUT WHAT
HE SAYS TO ISAAC HE
00:46:38.09\00:46:40.86
DOES NOT SAY TO ISHMAEL.
HERE'S THE DIFFERENCE: TO
00:46:40.86\00:46:43.70
ABRAHAM HE SAYS, 'IN YOUR SEED
ALL THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD
00:46:43.70\00:46:47.00
WILL BE BLESSED' TO ISAAC HE
SAYS HERE IN GENESIS 26:4, 'AND
00:46:47.00\00:46:51.61
IN YOUR SEED ALL THE NATIONS OF
THE WORLD WILL BE BLESSED - THE
00:46:51.61\00:46:55.28
BLESSING WOULD COME - THE TRUTH
- BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE
00:46:55.28\00:46:58.91
TRUTH YOU DON'T HAVE BLESSING
- THE TRUTH - THE MESSIAH WHO IS
00:46:58.91\00:47:02.25
THE TRUTH - ARE YOU WITH ME?
- THE TRUTH THAT THE JEWS WERE
00:47:02.25\00:47:05.79
THE GUARDIANS OF THE WORD.
PAUL SAYS GOD COMMITTED TO THE
00:47:05.79\00:47:09.76
CHILDREN OF ISRAEL
THE ORACLES OF TRUTH.
00:47:09.76\00:47:12.79
IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY
ALWAYS KEPT IT, BUT THEY HAD IT.
00:47:12.79\00:47:16.20
GENESIS 28:14 - THEN GOD REPEATS
THE PROMISE TO JACOB: 'ALSO, TO
00:47:16.20\00:47:21.17
YOUR DESCENDENTS THEY'LL BE LIKE
THE DUST OF THE EARTH AND YOU'LL
00:47:21.17\00:47:24.51
SPREAD AROUND AND IN YOU AND
IN YOUR SEED ALL THE FAMILIES OF
00:47:24.51\00:47:28.28
THE EARTH WILL BE BLESSED.'
SO HE ONLY SAYS THIS TO ABRAHAM,
00:47:28.28\00:47:31.48
ISAAC, AND JACOB. NOW
IT'S INTERESTING, ABRAHAM,
00:47:31.48\00:47:35.48
ISAAC, AND JACOB ALL THREE HAD
WIVES THAT HAD TROUBLE GETTING
00:47:35.48\00:47:38.29
PREGNANT. YOU KNOW ABOUT
SARAH - WE JUST READ THAT.
00:47:38.29\00:47:43.73
THE BIBLE SAYS REBEKAH WAS
BARREN AND ISAAC PRAYED AND GOD
00:47:43.73\00:47:47.66
OPENED HER WOMB
AND SHE HAD TWINS.
00:47:47.66\00:47:49.73
AND THE BIBLE SAYS RACHEL
HAD PROBLEMS HAVING A CHILD.
00:47:49.73\00:47:54.30
AND JACOB PRAYED AND EVENTUALLY
SHE HAD JOSEPH AND LATER
00:47:54.30\00:47:57.74
BENJAMIN - DIED
GIVING BIRTH TO BENJAMIN.
00:47:57.74\00:47:59.77
THEY ALL HAD
PROBLEMS HAVING CHILDREN.
00:47:59.77\00:48:02.24
THE OTHER THING IS, BECAUSE
THEIR CHILDREN WERE BORN AS THE
00:48:02.24\00:48:05.21
RESULT OF PRAYER AND
INTERCESSION AND PROMISES -
00:48:05.21\00:48:09.55
SPIRITUAL BIRTHS -
YOU GOT THAT? >>AMEN.
00:48:09.55\00:48:12.02
>>THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT
ABRAHAM, ISAAC, AND JACOB -
00:48:12.02\00:48:13.86
THESE PROMISED
CHILDREN ARE SPIRITUAL BIRTHS.
00:48:13.86\00:48:16.49
THERE'S A LESSON FOR US THERE.
THE OTHER THING IS, WHERE'D
00:48:16.49\00:48:18.79
THEY GET THEIR WIVES?
THEY KEPT BRINGING THEIR WIVES
00:48:18.79\00:48:22.20
OUT OF MESOPOTAMIA
TO THE PROMISED LAND.
00:48:22.20\00:48:25.97
ABRAHAM SAID, 'DON'T TAKE A WIFE
FOR ISAAC FROM THE LOCAL GIRLS,
00:48:25.97\00:48:28.77
SHE MUST BE A BELIEVER IN THE
TRUE GOD. HE SAID TO ELIEZER THE
00:48:28.77\00:48:32.04
SERVANT, 'GO GET A WIFE FROM
MY PEOPLE AND BRING HER TO THE
00:48:32.04\00:48:36.64
PROMISED LAND.' IT'S IMPORTANT
BECAUSE ABRAHAM, ISAAC, AND
00:48:36.64\00:48:39.88
JACOB ALL GOT THEIR WIVES OUT OF
MESOPOTAMIA AND BROUGHT THEM TO
00:48:39.88\00:48:42.52
THE PROMISED LAND AND THEN
GOD SAID, 'BABYLON IS FALLEN.
00:48:42.52\00:48:45.15
COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE.' GOD
CALLS HIS CHURCH OUT OF BABYLON
00:48:45.15\00:48:48.96
- SPIRITUAL MESOPOTAMIA -
TO THE PROMISED LAND - THE NEW
00:48:48.96\00:48:52.46
JERUSALEM. SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?
00:48:52.46\00:48:55.30
AND THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL WERE
CARRIED AWAY CAPTIVE TO BABYLON
00:48:55.30\00:48:59.40
AND THEY CAME OUT OF BABYLON IN
THE DAYS OF CYRUS AND CAME BACK
00:48:59.40\00:49:02.64
TO THE PROMISED LAND.
THAT'S THE WHOLE STORY
00:49:02.64\00:49:04.81
OF EZRA AND
NEHEMIAH. SO THIS IS CARRYING
00:49:04.81\00:49:06.91
ON THROUGH HISTORY.
IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN
00:49:06.91\00:49:08.68
LAST-DAY PROPHECY AS
WELL. NOW, I WANT YOU TO NOTICE
00:49:08.68\00:49:12.85
THERE'S A NUMBER OF PARALLELS
BETWEEN ISAAC AND ISHMAEL.
00:49:12.85\00:49:16.52
ISAAC COMES INTO THE WORLD AS
A RESULT OF FAITH. ISHMAEL COMES
00:49:16.52\00:49:23.36
INTO THE WORLD BY NATURAL
MEANS AS A RESULT OF WORKS.
00:49:23.36\00:49:26.90
GOD HAD PROMISED A PROMISED,
MIRACULOUS CHILD TO ABRAHAM AND
00:49:26.90\00:49:31.20
SARAH. THEY COULDN'T WAIT.
THEY SAID, 'WE'RE GOING TO HELP
00:49:31.20\00:49:33.30
GOD OUT. WE'RE
GOING TO DO IT BY WORKS.'
00:49:33.30\00:49:35.24
IT REPRESENTS THE
CARNAL SON, WHEREAS YOU'VE GOT
00:49:35.24\00:49:39.54
ISAAC IS THE SPIRITUAL SON.
THE INTERESTING THING IS, ISAAC
00:49:39.54\00:49:42.51
THEN HAS TWO BOYS AND ESAU IS
THE CARNAL SON - HE'S WILLING TO
00:49:42.51\00:49:47.02
SELL HIS
BIRTHRIGHT FOR A POT OF BEANS.
00:49:47.02\00:49:50.52
BUT JACOB IS THE ONE
THROUGH WHOM THE TRUTH COMES.
00:49:50.52\00:49:53.82
HE IS THE SPIRITUAL
SON. HE WANTS THE BLESSING.
00:49:53.82\00:49:55.72
HE TELLS ESAU, HE SAID, 'YOU CAN
TAKE ALL OF DAD'S POSSESSIONS -
00:49:55.72\00:50:00.03
YOU CAN GET THE INHERITANCE.'
MATTER OF FACT, WHEN JACOB CAME
00:50:00.03\00:50:02.26
BACK INTO THE PROMISED LAND HE
GAVE THINGS TO ESAU AND HE SAID,
00:50:02.26\00:50:07.17
'YOU KEEP IT. I WANT
THE SPIRITUAL BLESSING.'
00:50:07.17\00:50:10.21
AND HE GOT THAT, DIDN'T HE?
00:50:10.21\00:50:11.54
THE FATHER PUT HIS HANDS
ON HIM AND HE BLESSED HIM.
00:50:11.54\00:50:14.21
AND SO, THERE'S A BIG DEBATE
BECAUSE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE
00:50:14.21\00:50:17.88
AWARE OF THIS, ONLY
ISAAC IS CALLED THE ONLY SON.
00:50:17.88\00:50:24.85
WHEN ABRAHAM IS CALLED TO
SACRIFICE ISAAC, GOD SAYS, 'TAKE
00:50:24.85\00:50:28.52
YOUR SON, YOUR ONLY
SON.' WHAT ABOUT ISHMAEL?
00:50:28.52\00:50:33.70
IS 'GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD
HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON' -
00:50:33.70\00:50:37.33
IT'S BECAUSE ISAAC WAS A TYPE.
WHEN HE WENT UP ON THE MOUNTAIN
00:50:37.33\00:50:40.47
AS A SACRIFICE, HE
WAS A TYPE OF CHRIST.
00:50:40.47\00:50:42.07
IT'S LIKE MOSES WAS NEVER
SUPPOSED TO STRIKE THE ROCK
00:50:42.07\00:50:44.64
TWICE. HE MESSED UP THE SYMBOL.
00:50:44.64\00:50:46.21
ABRAHAM WAS NOT SUPPOSED
TO HAVE A CHILD OF THE FLESH.
00:50:46.21\00:50:48.84
HE WAS JUST SUPPOSED TO
HAVE THE CHILD OF THE PROMISE.
00:50:48.84\00:50:52.05
SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S
INTERESTING IS IN ISLAM THEY
00:50:52.05\00:50:55.55
REFUSE TO ACCEPT THAT
ABRAHAM OFFERED ISAAC.
00:50:55.55\00:50:57.55
THEY SAY
ABRAHAM OFFERED ISHMAEL.
00:50:57.55\00:51:01.89
NOW YOU CAN'T BELIEVE BOTH
THE QURAN AND THE BIBLE BECAUSE
00:51:01.89\00:51:05.59
THERE'S MAJOR CONFLICTS
IN THE TEACHINGS THERE.
00:51:05.59\00:51:08.46
YOU READ THE BOOK OF JAMES 2:21,
"WAS NOT ABRAHAM OUR FATHER
00:51:08.46\00:51:12.47
JUSTIFIED BY WORKS WHEN HE
OFFERED ISAAC" - YOU HAVE TO
00:51:12.47\00:51:15.70
REJECT THE OLD AND THE NEW
TESTAMENTS TO BELIEVE THE QURAN.
00:51:15.70\00:51:18.81
IT SAYS IT WAS ISAAC - IT WAS
NOT ISHMAEL THAT WAS THE SON.
00:51:18.81\00:51:23.01
LOOK AT SOME OF THE DIFFERENCES:
ONE IS A HUNTER, THE OTHER IS A
00:51:23.01\00:51:26.48
FARMER AND A
SHEPHERD. ISAAC PLANTED AND GOD
00:51:26.48\00:51:28.92
GAVE HIM A HUNDRED-FOLD.
THERE'S A COUPLE MORE PARALLELS
00:51:28.92\00:51:35.86
HERE AND WE'RE GOING TO WRAP
THIS UP. GOD NAMES ISAAC AND
00:51:35.86\00:51:41.43
ISHMAEL - THEY BOTH WERE NAMED
BY GOD, BUT THE NAME OF ONE
00:51:41.43\00:51:44.53
COMES FROM THE FATHER AND THE
NAME OF THE OTHER COMES THROUGH
00:51:44.53\00:51:46.60
THE MOTHER. ISHMAEL
DIES SURROUNDED BY FAMILY.
00:51:46.60\00:51:51.41
JACOB AND ISAAC DIED
SURROUNDED BY FAMILY.
00:51:51.41\00:51:54.98
ISAAC GOES EAST TO GET HIS WIFE;
ISHMAEL GOES WEST TO EGYPT TO
00:51:54.98\00:52:00.12
GET HIS WIFE. THEY'RE OPPOSITES.
00:52:00.12\00:52:03.39
ISAAC'S WIFE IS
CHOSEN BY THE FATHER.
00:52:03.39\00:52:06.39
ISHMAEL'S WIFE IS
CHOSEN BY THE MOTHER.
00:52:06.39\00:52:09.69
YOU KNOW, MAYBE I'LL CLOSE
BY TAKING YOU TO GALATIANS 4 -
00:52:09.69\00:52:13.76
LISTEN TO WHAT PAUL SAYS - WE'RE
JUMPING TO THE NEW TESTAMENT.
00:52:13.76\00:52:15.76
PAUL SAYS WHAT HAPPENED TO
ISHMAEL AND ISAAC IS AN ALLEGORY
00:52:15.76\00:52:19.77
THAT APPLIES TO US TODAY.
PAUL SAYS, "TELL ME, YOU WHO
00:52:19.77\00:52:24.01
DESIRE TO BE UNDER THE
LAW, DO YOU NOT HEAR THE LAW?
00:52:24.01\00:52:28.18
FOR IT IS WRITTEN THAT ABRAHAM"
- AND, OF COURSE, GENESIS WAS
00:52:28.18\00:52:30.51
CALLED PART OF THE LAW -
"ABRAHAM HAD TWO SONS, ONE BY
00:52:30.51\00:52:33.72
A BONDWOMAN, THE
OTHER BY A FREEWOMAN.
00:52:33.72\00:52:37.02
BUT HE WHO WAS OF THE BONDWOMAN
(ISHMAEL) WAS BORN ACCORDING TO
00:52:37.02\00:52:40.99
THE FLESH, AND HE OF THE
FREEWOMAN (ISAAC) THROUGH
00:52:40.99\00:52:45.03
PROMISE, WHICH
THINGS ARE SYMBOLIC.
00:52:45.03\00:52:49.36
FOR THESE ARE THE TWO
COVENANTS:" - ONE TRUE, ONE
00:52:49.36\00:52:53.07
FALSE - "THE ONE FROM
MOUNT SINAI WHICH GIVES BIRTH TO
00:52:53.07\00:52:57.17
BONDAGE, WHICH IS HAGAR" - IS
ANYONE SAVED UNDER THE BONDAGE
00:52:57.17\00:53:00.38
OF HAGAR? WELL, I'M
TELLING YOU WHAT PAUL
00:53:00.38\00:53:03.88
SAYS - IT'S BONDAGE -
"FOR THIS HAGAR IS MOUNT SINAI
00:53:03.88\00:53:08.48
IN ARABIA," - WHERE?
ARABIA. WHERE DOES MOHAMMED
00:53:08.48\00:53:12.82
HAVE HIS VISION?
WHERE IS ISLAM BORN?
00:53:12.82\00:53:17.09
IT'S ARABIA - "AND CORRESPONDS
TO JERUSALEM WHICH NOW IS, AND
00:53:17.09\00:53:22.56
IS IN BONDAGE WITH HER CHILDREN
- BUT THE JERUSALEM ABOVE IS
00:53:22.56\00:53:25.63
FREE, WHICH IS
THE MOTHER OF US ALL.
00:53:25.63\00:53:29.17
FOR IT IS WRITTEN: 'REJOICE,
O BARREN, YOU WHO DO NOT BEAR!
00:53:29.17\00:53:32.21
BREAK FORTH AND SHOUT,
YOU WHO ARE NOT IN LABOR!
00:53:32.21\00:53:34.91
FOR THE DESOLATE HAS MANY
MORE CHILDREN THAN SHE WHO HAS A
00:53:34.91\00:53:38.21
HUSBAND.' NOW WE, BRETHREN,
AS ISAAC WAS, ARE CHILDREN OF
00:53:38.21\00:53:42.92
PROMISE. BUT AS HE
WHO WAS BORN ACCORDING
00:53:42.92\00:53:45.52
TO THE FLESH (ISHMAEL)
THEN PERSECUTED HIM WHO WAS BORN
00:53:45.52\00:53:49.06
ACCORDING TO THE
SPIRIT, EVEN SO IT IS NOW.
00:53:49.06\00:53:51.83
NEVERTHELESS WHAT
DOES THE SCRIPTURE SAY?
00:53:51.83\00:53:53.73
'CAST OUT THE BONDWOMAN
AND HER SON, FOR THE SON OF THE
00:53:53.73\00:53:56.90
BONDWOMAN SHALL NOT BE HEIR WITH
THE SON OF THE FREEWOMAN.' SO
00:53:56.90\00:54:00.90
THEN, BRETHREN, WE ARE NOT
CHILDREN OF THE BONDWOMAN BUT OF
00:54:00.90\00:54:03.47
THE FREE." WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
00:54:03.47\00:54:06.47
WELL, IN OUR DAY AND AGE, I
THINK, AS WE NEAR THE END OF
00:54:06.47\00:54:08.98
TIME, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE AN
INCREASING POLARIZATION IN THE
00:54:08.98\00:54:12.98
WORLD BETWEEN THESE TWO
GREAT IDEAS - THESE TWO GREAT
00:54:12.98\00:54:18.49
FAMILIES. NOW, IF
YOU'RE A CHRISTIAN, YOUR
00:54:18.49\00:54:22.02
FAITH SPRINGS FROM ISAAC AND
JACOB. IF YOU'RE AN ARAB, YOUR
00:54:22.02\00:54:27.13
FAITH IS SPRINGING - HAS ITS
ROOTS IN ISHMAEL AND MOHAMMED.
00:54:27.13\00:54:32.63
AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE
WORLD TODAY THESE ARE THE TWO
00:54:32.63\00:54:35.27
PRINCIPLE RELIGIONS THAT
ARE BEING VERY AGGRESSIVE ABOUT
00:54:35.27\00:54:37.77
SHARING THEIR FAITH, AND I
BELIEVE THINGS ARE GOING TO
00:54:37.77\00:54:40.61
REACH CRITICAL MASS IN THE END
OF TIME AND IT'S GOING TO RESULT
00:54:40.61\00:54:44.81
IN THE FINAL EVENTS - BUT
I DON'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF
00:54:44.81\00:54:47.42
MYSELF NOW BECAUSE
- WAIT, THERE'S MORE.
00:54:47.42\00:54:52.85
AND WE'RE HOPING THAT YOU'LL BE
PRAYING FOR ME AS YOU COME AND
00:54:52.85\00:54:55.82
YOU PARTICIPATE IN THIS SERIES.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU READ IN THE
00:54:55.82\00:55:00.20
BOOK OF GENESIS CHAPTER 25, IT
TALKS ABOUT THE LAST TIME THAT
00:55:00.20\00:55:05.27
ISAAC AND ISHMAEL SAW EACH OTHER
- JUST GOING TO CLOSE WITH THIS:
00:55:05.27\00:55:11.87
"ABRAHAM AGAIN TOOK A WIFE, AND
HER NAME WAS KETURAH. AND SHE
00:55:11.87\00:55:15.94
BORE HIM ZIMRAN, JOKSHAN, MEDAN,
MIDIAN, ISHBAK, AND SHUAH."
00:55:15.94\00:55:21.32
AND IT GOES THROUGH THE
GENEALOGY AND IT SAYS, "THIS" -
00:55:21.32\00:55:23.89
IN VERSE 7 - "IS THE SUM
OF...ABRAHAM'S LIFE WHICH HE
00:55:23.89\00:55:27.22
LIVED: ONE HUNDRED
AND SEVENTY-FIVE YEARS.
00:55:27.22\00:55:29.76
THEN ABRAHAM BREATHED HIS LAST
AND DIED IN A GOOD OLD AGE, AN
00:55:29.76\00:55:34.03
OLD MAN AND FULL OF YEARS,
AND WAS GATHERED TO HIS PEOPLE."
00:55:34.03\00:55:37.50
IT'S INTERESTING, THAT'S WHAT IT
SAYS ABOUT ISHMAEL; WHEN HE DIES
00:55:37.50\00:55:40.77
HE IS GATHERED TO HIS
PEOPLE. "AND HIS SONS ISAAC AND
00:55:40.77\00:55:45.44
ISHMAEL BURIED HIM..."
THAT WAS THE LAST TIME WE KNOW
00:55:45.44\00:55:47.58
OF THAT THEY CAME TOGETHER - TO
BURY THEIR FATHER IN THE CAVE OF
00:55:47.58\00:55:50.55
MACHPELAH WHERE HE HAD
BURIED SARAH, NOT HAGAR.
00:55:50.55\00:55:55.48
AND THEN YOU JUMP AHEAD HERE, IT
SAYS, 'NOW THIS IS THE' - VERSE
00:55:55.48\00:55:58.72
12 - "NOW THIS IS THE GENEALOGY
OF ISHMAEL," - AND IT SAYS
00:55:58.72\00:56:02.22
ISHMAEL DIED AND WAS
GATHERED TO HIS PEOPLE -
00:56:02.22\00:56:05.93
AND THESE ARE THE SONS
- THE PEOPLE OF THE EAST.
00:56:05.93\00:56:09.10
AND THEN IT GOES INTO
THE GENEALOGY OF ISAAC.
00:56:09.10\00:56:11.27
SO HERE IN GENESIS, AT
THE END OF ABRAHAM'S LIFE, IT
00:56:11.27\00:56:14.24
IMMEDIATELY CREATES TWO PILLARS:
IT'S GOT THE GENEALOGY OF
00:56:14.24\00:56:17.47
ISHMAEL AND THEN IT SAYS
THE GENEALOGY OF ISAAC - IT'S
00:56:17.47\00:56:20.31
BASICALLY SAYING 'THESE ARE
GOING TO BE THE TWO STRANDS THAT
00:56:20.31\00:56:23.41
YOU CAN FOLLOW - EVEN HERE
WE ARE AT THE END OF TIME AND
00:56:23.41\00:56:25.48
THEY'RE STILL AT ODDS - AND
I THINK THAT - I THINK YOU'RE
00:56:25.48\00:56:31.45
GOING TO BE AMAZED AS YOU SEE
HOW THESE THINGS WILL AFFECT US
00:56:31.45\00:56:35.02
TODAY AND LEARN MORE ABOUT
THESE TWO RELIGIONS AND WHAT THE
00:56:35.02\00:56:38.39
DIFFERENCES ARE. I
HOPE YOU'LL BE PRAYING
00:56:38.39\00:56:40.40
WITH ME AS WE PROCEED. AS
WE CLOSE, I JUST WANT TO SAY
00:56:40.40\00:56:44.03
THERE'S ONLY ONE NAME UNDER
HEAVEN WHEREBY WE MUST BE SAVED
00:56:44.03\00:56:46.43
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