Participants: Pr. Doug Batchelor
Series Code: EG
Program Code: EG021549A
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00:11 >>ON CHRISTMAS EVE 1971, 17-YEAR-OLD JULIANE KOEPCKE 00:15 BOARDED LANSA FLIGHT #508 WITH HER MOTHER IN LIMA, PERU. 00:19 THEY INTENDED TO JOIN HER FATHER FOR CHRISTMAS AT HIS RESEARCH 00:23 STATION IN THE AMAZON RAIN FOREST. 00:26 AFTER CROSSING THE ANDES AT ABOUT 21,000 FEET, THEIR 00:29 AIRCRAFT WAS ENVELOPED BY LARGE, DARK THUNDERCLOUDS AND IT 00:33 ENCOUNTERED SEVERE TURBULENCE. LIGHTNING WAS FLASHING 00:36 EVERYWHERE AND THE PLANE WAS SHAKEN VIOLENTLY, WHICH 00:39 NATURALLY TERRIFIED THE PASSENGERS. 00:42 THEN, A BOLT OF LIGHTNING STRUCK THE PLANE'S ENGINE AND TORE OFF 00:46 A WING. AS THE DOOMED AIRLINER HURTLED 00:49 TOWARDS THE EARTH, THE CABIN CAME APART AND THE NEXT THING 00:52 SHE KNEW, JULIANE FOUND HERSELF STRAPPED ALONE TO A ROW OF SEATS 00:56 FALLING AND SPINNING SILENTLY FROM OVER 10,000 FEET 01:00 ABOVE THE RAIN FOREST. SHE PLUMMETED THROUGH THE JUNGLE 01:03 CANOPY AND SLAMMED ON THE FOREST FLOOR. 01:06 WHEN SHE AWOKE THE NEXT DAY, JULIANE WAS AMAZED TO REALIZE 01:10 SHE HAD SURVIVED THE TWO-MILE FALL WITH JUST A BROKEN 01:13 COLLARBONE AND A BAD GASH IN HER ARM. 01:16 AFTER FAILING TO FIND ANY OTHER SURVIVORS, JULIANE RELIED ON 01:20 WHAT HER FATHER HAD TAUGHT HER: THAT WALKING DOWNSTREAM WILL 01:23 ALWAYS LEAD TO CIVILIZATION. SO, WITH A BAG OF CANDY THAT HAD 01:27 FALLEN FROM THE PLANE AND ONE SANDAL, SHE STARTED WALKING. 01:31 FOR TEN DAYS JULIANE HOBBLED, SWAM, OR FLOATED DOWNSTREAM. 01:36 HER WOUNDS BECAME INFECTED AND SHE WAS PLAGUED BY MAGGOTS WHILE 01:39 HAVING TO DODGE CROCODILES, PIRANHAS, AND RELENTLESS 01:42 INSECTS. EVENTUALLY SHE CAME TO A SHACK 01:46 WHERE SHE SLEPT AND SHE WAS SOON DISCOVERED BY PERUVIAN LOGGERS. 01:50 EVENTUALLY JULIANE WAS UNITED WITH HER AMAZED FATHER. 01:54 IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE A 17-YEAR-OLD GIRL SURVIVING SUCH 01:58 A FALL AND THEN HIKING ALONE OUT OF THE WORLD'S LARGEST 02:01 RAINFOREST. YOU KNOW, THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT 02:05 SOME WHO SURVIVED AN EVEN GREATER FALL THAN JULIANE. 02:08 IN FACT, ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES, WHEN ADAM AND EVE 02:11 FELL IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN, IT BROUGHT THE WHOLE HUMAN RACE 02:14 DOWN. BUT JESUS CAME TO REDEEM THE WORLD FROM SIN. 02:18 PERHAPS YOU'RE THINKING TO YOURSELF, 'WELL, THAT'S OKAY FOR 02:20 THE WORLD, BUT I'VE FALLEN TOO FAR. 02:23 WELL, IF THE LORD CAN SAVE JULIANE, GOD CAN SAVE YOU. 02:27 YOU'VE NOT GONE FARTHER THAN MOSES, WHO WAS GUILTY OF MURDER, 02:30 OR DAVID, WHO WAS GUILTY OF ADULTERY, OR PETER, WHO DENIED 02:33 JESUS - AND ALL OF THEM WERE SAVED AND RESTORED FROM THEIR 02:37 FALL. OR MAYBE YOU'RE THINKING, 'I'VE 02:39 FALLEN TOO MANY TIMES.' BE OF GOOD COURAGE. 02:42 IT SAYS IN PROVERBS CHAPTER 24, VERSE 16, "FOR A RIGHTEOUS MAN 02:46 MAY FALL SEVEN TIMES AND RISE AGAIN" - AND JESUS CAST SEVEN 02:50 DEVILS OUT OF MARY MAGDALENE. SO DON'T GET DISCOURAGED, 02:52 FRIEND, IF YOU'VE FALLEN, GET BACK UP AGAIN. 02:55 THE SAME WAY THAT HE COULD SAVE JULIANE - LEAD HER FROM THAT 02:58 LOST CONDITION IN THE RAINFOREST AND RESTORE HER TO HER FATHER, 03:02 JESUS CAN LEAD YOU FROM YOUR LOST CONDITION AND RESTORE YOU 03:06 TO YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER. (MUSIC) 03:15 >>DID YOU KNOW THAT NOAH WAS PRESENT AT THE BIRTH OF ABRAHAM? 03:18 OKAY, MAYBE HE WASN'T IN THE ROOM, BUT HE WAS ALIVE AND 03:22 PROBABLY TELLING STORIES ABOUT HIS FLOATING ZOO. 03:26 FROM THE CREATION OF THE WORLD TO THE LAST-DAY EVENTS OF 03:28 REVELATION, 'BIBLEHISTORY.COM' IS A FREE RESOURCE WHERE YOU CAN 03:32 EXPLORE MAJOR BIBLE EVENTS AND CHARACTERS. 03:36 ENHANCE YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF THE BIBLE AND DRAW CLOSER TO GOD'S 03:39 WORD. GO DEEPER. VISIT THE AMAZING BIBLE TIME 03:43 LINE AT 'BIBLEHISTORY.COM'. (MUSIC) 03:50 >>AMAZING FACTS CHANGED LIVES. (MUSIC) 03:58 >>I GREW UP HERE IN NEW YORK CITY, I GUESS DEALING WITH 04:02 ALL THE TEMPTATIONS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE IN A BIG CITY. 04:05 EVERYTHING THAT YOU COULD IMAGINE THAT YOU COULD RUN INTO 04:09 - DRUGS, CRIME - WAS ALWAYS HERE. 04:13 WHEN I WAS AT A YOUNG AGE I ACTUALLY GOT INTO TROUBLE WITH 04:16 THE LAW AND MY ONLY OUT WAS TO JOIN THE MILITARY AT THE TIME, 04:21 IN ORDER TO NOT DO TIME. 04:23 SO I LEFT NEW YORK AND TRAVELED THE WORLD A LITTLE BIT WHILE I 04:27 WAS IN THE MILITARY. EVENTUALLY I CAME BACK. 04:31 HAVING GROWN UP AS A HIP-HOP KID I EVENTUALLY FOUND MYSELF 04:34 WORKING IN THE MUSIC BUSINESS, ACTUALLY. 04:37 I WORKED AT A COUPLE OF MAJOR RADIO STATIONS - HIP-HOP, REGGAE 04:41 - I WAS AT ALL THE BIG REGGAE SHOWS WORKING THEM. NO MATTER 04:43 WHAT I DID TO TRY AND SATISFY MYSELF, NOTHING REALLY WORKED. 04:49 I REMEMBER I USED TO PLAY AT THIS ONE CLUB IN MANHATTAN. 04:52 WE USED TO PLAY THERE EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT. 04:55 SO I CAME HOME ONE SATURDAY MORNING AFTER LEAVING THE CLUB 04:59 AND I TURNED ON THE VIDEO CHANNEL LIKE I USUALLY DO. 05:02 SO THERE WAS THIS GUY ON THE VIDEO CHANNEL TALKING AND HE WAS 05:05 DEFINITELY OUT OF PLACE, BUT THE THINGS THAT HE WERE - THAT HE 05:08 WAS SAYING - JUST TOTALLY AMAZED ME. 05:11 I NEVER HEARD ANYONE SPEAK ABOUT THE BIBLE LIKE THIS BEFORE. 05:15 SO I STARTED COMING HOME EARLY ON SATURDAY MORNINGS JUST TO 05:18 CATCH THIS SHOW. I FOUND THE THINGS THAT HE WAS 05:21 SAYING ABSOLUTELY AMAZING, TO THE POINT WHERE IT LITERALLY 05:26 MADE ME STOP AND START TO THINK ABOUT HOW I WAS LIVING MY LIFE. 05:31 SO I FOUND THAT ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT I HAD BEEN DOING TO 05:33 TRY AND FIND HAPPINESS WERE ACTUALLY NOT MAKING ME HAPPY AT 05:37 ALL, BUT WERE REALLY JUST LEAVING ME EMPTY INSIDE. 05:41 WHEN I STARTED READING THE BIBLE AND IT STARTED TO MAKE SENSE, I 05:44 STARTED TO MAKE CHANGES. I EVEN TRIED TO KEEP THE 05:48 SABBATH, WHICH I FAILED AT MISERABLY. 05:51 SO I WAS ACTUALLY INVITED BY AMAZING FACTS TO GO TO SEE A 05:55 LIVE SERIES AT ONE OF THE LOCAL CHURCHES, BUT AFTER GOING THE 05:59 FIRST NIGHT I ENDED UP GOING ANOTHER NIGHT AND ANOTHER NIGHT. 06:03 I STAYED FOR THE ENTIRE SERIES. THAT WAS THE DAY I MADE A 06:06 DECISION THAT CHANGED THE REST OF MY LIFE FOREVER. 06:09 I GAVE MY LIFE TO CHRIST AND EVERYTHING WAS DIFFERENT AFTER 06:12 THAT. I MADE A DECISION TO GIVE UP THE 06:14 MUSIC BUSINESS AND STOP HANGING OUT AT ALL OF THE CLUBS. 06:17 I MADE A DECISION THAT WAS ETERNAL FOR ME AND FOR MY 06:20 FAMILY. I STARTED GOING TO CHURCH. 06:24 I GOT A POSITION IN CHURCH WHERE I WAS ACTUALLY IN CHARGE OF THE 06:28 PERSONAL MINISTRIES DEPARTMENT AND THE SAME AMAZING FACTS 06:32 STUDIES THAT CHANGED MY LIFE, I ACTUALLY GOT TO SHARE THEM WITH 06:36 PEOPLE AND SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND TELL THEM ABOUT JESUS. 06:41 (MUSIC) 07:04 >>THE MESSAGE THIS MORNING - SOME OF YOU ARE WONDERING - 07:07 KAREN WAS WONDERING ON THE WAY TO CHURCH. SHE SAID, 'WHAT ARE 07:08 YOU TALKING ABOUT?' A COLD CONFESSION . 07:15 AND THAT'S BECAUSE, TODAY, I'M GOING TO BE MAKING A COLD 07:18 CONFESSION. I'M GOING TO BE SHARING 07:22 SOMETHING VERY PERSONAL WITH YOU AND MAKING A CONFESSION. 07:26 YOU'VE HEARD IT SAID BEFORE, 'CONFESSION IS GOOD FOR THE 07:28 SOUL, BUT VERY BAD FOR THE REPUTATION.' AND THAT MAY BE THE 07:33 CASE TODAY, BUT YOUR PASTOR WAS ADDICTED AND INVOLVED IN 07:43 SUBSTANCE ABUSE FOR OVER 30 YEARS. 07:49 YEAH, THEY GOT THE SUBSTANCE THERE ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW. 07:52 (LAUGHTER) NOW YOU THINK I'M KIDDING. SOME OF THIS MAY BE A 08:00 LITTLE BIT TONGUE IN CHEEK, BUT THERE IS A POINT. 08:04 BUT I HAD A VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH AN ADDICTION TO ICE CREAM. 08:13 NOW, WHEN I GET DONE - YOU DESCRIBE - YOU LET ME KNOW WHAT 08:15 YOU THINK - THAT - IF IT FITS THE DEFINITION. 08:19 NOW I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN IT BEGAN, BUT I KNOW IT STARTED A 08:22 LONG TIME AGO AND - MY SUBSTANCE ABUSE STARTED INNOCENTLY ENOUGH 08:29 - AND I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING, I AM 08:31 NOT SAYING THAT ICE CREAM IS A SIN. IS THAT CLEAR? 08:37 BUT IT GOT TO THE PLACE WHERE IT WAS FOR ME. 08:43 THE BIBLE SAYS IN 1 CORINTHIANS 10:31, "THEREFORE, WHETHER YOU 08:46 EAT OR DRINK, OR WHATEVER YOU DO, DO ALL TO THE GLORY OF GOD." 08:50 AND I CERTAINLY WAS NOT DOING IT TO THE GLORY OF GOD. 08:53 NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU REMEMBER A DAY WHERE YEARS AGO 08:58 THEY HAD AN ICE CREAM MAN THAT WOULD GO UP AND DOWN THE 09:01 NEIGHBORHOOD AND A BELL WOULD RING AND A SONG WOULD PLAY - 09:05 I DON'T' REMEMBER WHAT THE SONG IS. 09:07 ANYONE REMEMBER THE GOOD HUMOR MAN? 09:09 >>YES. >>DO YOU HAVE HAPPY MEMORIES? 09:13 ON THOSE HOT SUMMER DAYS AND YOU'D HEAR THAT MUSIC, IT WAS 09:16 LIKE THE GATES OF HEAVEN HAD OPENED UP, RIGHT? 09:20 (LAUGHTER) AND YOU'D HEAR THAT MUSIC PLAYING AND THIS LITTLE 09:22 WHITE TRUCK WOULD COME OUT AND ALL THE KIDS WOULD CROWD INTO 09:25 CERTAIN SET SPOTS IN THE STREET AND JUST ABOUT THROW THEMSELVES 09:28 IN FRONT OF THIS VEHICLE. AND HE WOULD STEP OUT AND 09:32 USUALLY HE WAS FRIENDLY AND THERE IN THE TRUCK HE 09:36 HAD HIS DRIED ICE - IT WAS ALWAYS SO AMAZING TO ME - HE 09:38 SHOWED ME A PIECE OF THE DRIED ICE AND THE FOG BILLOWING OUT 09:44 AND HE'D PULL OUT THESE EXOTIC TREATS. 09:46 AND I REMEMBER SOME OF MY FAVORITES WERE - THEY HAD ONE 09:49 CALLED A RAINBOW ROCKET - IT WAS A DOUBLE POPSICLE THAT HAD TWO 09:52 STICKS THAT WENT UP THROUGH IT. 09:54 YOU COULD BREAK IT IN HALF AND SHARE IT WITH A FRIEND. 09:56 SO I, OFTEN, WOULD SPLIT A RAINBOW ROCKET. 09:58 I'M SURE IT WAS FULL OF COLORS AND CHEMICALS AND THINGS BUT IT 10:01 WAS DELICIOUS. IT WAS PROBABLY ALL CORN SYRUP. 10:04 THEY HAD ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS ORANGE WITH VANILLA INSIDE - IT 10:08 WAS AN ORANGE POPSICLE WITH VANILLA - ANYONE? 10:10 >>CREAMSICLE. >>THEY STILL MAKE THOSE? 10:13 DO YOU KNOW THEY STILL HAVE ICE CREAM TRUCKS IN SOME 10:16 NEIGHBORHOODS IN SACRAMENTO? HAVE YOU HEARD THEM? 10:18 >>YES. >>AND THE THING THAT'S SO FUNNY 10:21 - I REMEMBER, I WAS AT BONNIE'S HOUSE NOT LONG AGO AND I 10:23 HEARD ONE COMING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HE WAS PLAYING 10:27 THE SONG - DOM DOM DOM DOM DOM DOM DA DA DA DOM DOM DOM DOM DOM 10:31 - WHICH IS LITTLE BROWN JUG . (LAUGHTER) ANY OF YOU KNOW WHAT 10:35 I'M TALKING ABOUT? LITTLE - 'HA HA HA HEE HEE HEE LITTLE 10:37 BROWN JUG HOW I LOVE THEE' - WHICH IS ABOUT A JUG OF WHISKEY. 10:41 (LAUGHTER) I THOUGHT, WHAT KIND OF SONG IS THAT FOR KIDS? 10:43 (LAUGHTER) BECAUSE RIGHT THERE YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S AN 10:45 ADDICTION ISSUE CONNECTED WITH THIS. 10:49 SO THEY STILL HAVE DEALERS THAT GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 10:52 BUT IT GOES WAY BACK AND I REMEMBER THAT IT WAS SO 10:56 IMPORTANT TO ME, I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY MY GRANDMOTHER 10:58 WOULD NOT GIVE ME TEN OR TWENTY-FIVE CENTS - THAT'S ALL 11:01 IT WAS BACK THEN - EVERY DAY. AND SHE SAID, 'IT'S A TREAT. 11:05 YOU CAN'T HAVE IT EVERY DAY.' AND I'M ASHAMED TO TELL YOU THAT 11:08 I VIVIDLY REMEMBER STEALING MONEY FROM MY GRANDMOTHER. 11:11 SHE - THIS IS ONE OF MY EARLIEST MEMORIES - SHE HUNG HER BLACK 11:16 LEATHER PURSE OVER THE DOORKNOB OF HER BEDROOM AND INSIDE HER 11:20 PURSE SHE HAD ANOTHER LITTLE PURSE THAT HAD ONE OF THOSE VERY 11:22 DIFFICULT SNAPS ON IT THAT YOU HAD TO TWIST. 11:25 IT WAS THE CHANGE PURSE. AND SHE CAUGHT ME ONE DAY. 11:30 I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I DID IT - MORE THAN ONCE. 11:33 THAT'S WHERE MY LIFE OF CRIME BEGAN. 11:34 IT WAS FOR ICE CREAM MONEY. (LAUGHTER) YOU SEE? 11:39 AND, YEAH, MY GRANDMOTHER WAS TOUGH. 11:45 I REMEMBER STICKING OUT MY TONGUE ONE TIME AND SHE SAID, 11:48 'BOY, YOU'VE GOT SUCH A PRETTY TONGUE. 11:50 DO THAT AGAIN.' I STUCK OUT MY TONGUE AND SHE SLAPPED ME 11:54 UNDERNEATH MY CHIN (LAUGHTER) AND MADE ME BITE DOWN ON MY 11:57 TONGUE, WHICH REALLY HURT. AND I NEVER FORGOT THAT AND I 12:03 NEVER STUCK OUT MY TONGUE AT MY GRANDMOTHER AGAIN. 12:06 BUT MY GRANDMOTHER WAS PRETTY TOUGH. 12:08 ANYWAYS, SHE CAUGHT ME STEALING AND THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY 12:09 ABOUT THAT. BUT IT WAS FOR ICE CREAM MONEY. WELL, I TOOK MY - 12:15 IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A SMALL OBSESSION AT THAT POINT. 12:18 WHEN I GOT TO NEW YORK CITY - PARENTS DIVORCED - AND MAYBE I 12:23 WAS LOOKING FOR COMFORT, BUT ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE DAY WAS 12:28 WHEN I WOULD SNUGGLE UP WITH MY MOTHER AND MY BROTHER AND WE 12:32 WOULD EAT ICE CREAM AND WATCH THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF DISNEY OR 12:38 THE ED SULLIVAN SHOW OR ONE OF THOSE PROGRAMS. 12:40 WE ONLY HAD THREE CHANNELS BACK THEN, WE HAD THE COAT HANGER ON 12:44 TOP OF THE TV WITH THE TINFOIL, TO IMPROVE RECEPTION IN OUR 12:48 APARTMENT. ANYONE REMEMBER? >>YEAH. 12:51 >>AND THEN WHEN I WENT TO LIVE WITH DAD - THERE WAS A SPELL 12:54 ALSO AT MILITARY SCHOOL. 12:56 EVEN IN MILITARY SCHOOL I REMEMBER THAT ONCE A WEEK WE'D 13:00 GET ICE CREAM AND I'D LOOK FORWARD TO THAT DAY AND IT CAME 13:04 WRAPPED UP AND IT WAS NEAPOLITAN - IT WAS AN ICE CREAM SANDWICH 13:08 WITH CHOCOLATE, STRAWBERRY, AND VANILLA IN IT. 13:11 AND I WOULD RELISH THAT - I WOULD BEG AND BRIBE THE OTHER 13:13 CADETS IF I COULD GET THEIR SANDWICH. I'D GIVE THEM ANY OF 13:16 THE FOOD THEY WANTED ON MY PLATE IF I COULD GET THEIR ICE CREAM. 13:20 AND THEN I WENT TO LIVE WITH DAD AND THAT'S WHEN IT REALLY 13:23 STARTED TO GET SERIOUS, IS IN FLORIDA, WE ACTUALLY HAD - I 13:29 KNOW YOU DON'T THINK OF MIAMI BEACH HAVING MILKMEN, BUT WE HAD 13:32 A MILKMAN AND I LOOKED IT UP ONLINE TO SEE - THEY'RE STILL IN 13:35 BUSINESS - THE COMPANY WAS CALLED MCARTHUR DAIRY - AND THEY 13:38 WOULD BRING THE MILK TO THE DOOR AND MY STEP-MOTHER WOULD FILL 13:41 OUT A FORM AND - IT WASN'T EVERY DAY, BUT LIKE EVERY OTHER DAY, 13:46 HE WOULD BRING THE ORDER. BUT THIS WAS REALLY NEAT: IN 13:50 MIAMI BEACH, THE MILKMEN NOT ONLY BROUGHT MILK, THEY BROUGHT 13:54 FRESH-SQUEEZED TROPICANA ORANGE JUICE IN A JAR - A GLASS JAR - 14:01 AND THEY WOULD SQUEEZE IT THAT DAY AND YOU WOULD GET FRESH 14:04 ORANGE JUICE - AND THEY BROUGHT ICE CREAM. 14:08 NOW WE ALWAYS KNEW WHEN HE WAS COMING BECAUSE YOU CAN'T LEAVE 14:10 YOUR ICE CREAM OUT ON THE PORCH FOR VERY LONG. 14:13 AND, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T - I WAS LIVING WITH MY DAD AND MY 14:20 STEP-MOTHER AND MY STEP-BROTHER AND MY BROTHER WAS SICK AND I 14:22 WAS STRUGGLING DURING THOSE YEARS. 14:25 ONE OF THE TREATS FOR ME WAS I WOULD TAKE A HALF A PINT OF ICE 14:31 CREAM AND POUR IN TROPICANA ORANGE JUICE AND MIX IT ALL - IT 14:35 REMINDED ME OF THOSE ORANGE THINGS THE GOOD HUMOR MAN HAD. 14:39 IT WAS REALLY GOOD. BUT IT GOT TO WHERE MY 14:42 STEP-MOTHER STARTED SAYING, 'WHO ATE ALL THE ICE CREAM?' 14:45 BECAUSE I WAS EATING ALL OF THE ICE CREAM. 14:48 I MEAN, I STARTED DOING IT EVERY DAY AND I REALLY ENJOYED IT. 14:53 IT WAS THE HIGHLIGHT OF MY DAY. BUT THEN THINGS REALLY TURNED 14:57 FROM BAD TO WORSE BECAUSE SUMMER CAME AND I NEEDED TO FIND A JOB 15:02 - AND GUESS WHERE I GOT A JOB? >>ICE CREAM SHOP. 15:05 >>I GOT A JOB WORKING AT BASKIN ROBBINS. 15:08 KAREN AND I WERE IN MIAMI BEACH NOT TOO LONG AGO. 15:11 I TOOK HER BY - TRIED TO FIND WHERE THE OLD ICE CREAM SHOP WAS 15:14 AND I GUESS IT'S NOT THERE ANYMORE - IN LINCOLN MALL. 15:16 BUT I WORKED AT 31 FLAVORS AND THE OWNER WAS LEE SCOTT. 15:23 AND I REMEMBER WHEN HE HIRED ME - I WAS ONLY LIKE 14 - 15 YEARS 15:26 OLD. HE REALLY LIKED ME BECAUSE I'D BEEN TO MILITARY SCHOOL AND 15:30 I WAS A CLEANING FANATIC AND I KEPT THE STORE CLEAN AND HE HAD 15:35 THIS WAXING MACHINE AND NONE OF THE KIDS KNEW HOW TO USE THE 15:38 WAXING MACHINE - YOU KNOW, THOSE FLOOR BUFFERS? 15:41 IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE ONE OF THOSE, YOU CAN REALLY GET 15:42 HURT. BUT WE USED THEM IN MILITARY SCHOOL. 15:45 I SAID, 'OH YEAH, I CAN.' AND SO I WOULD BUFF AND WAX THE FLOOR 15:48 AND EVERYTHING WAS JUST SPIC AND SPAN. 15:49 AND I SAID - WHEN HE WAS HIRING ME I SAID, 'NOW, I'M JUST 15:53 WONDERING, ARE WE ALLOWED TO EAT THE PRODUCT?' 15:56 (LAUGHTER) HE SAID, 'NO PROBLEM' - HE SAID, 'YOU CAN EAT 16:01 AS MUCH AS YOU WANT. YOU'LL GET TIRED OF IT.' 16:05 I NEVER EVEN GOT CLOSE TO GETTING TIRED OF IT. (LAUGHTER) 16:10 HE HAD - NOW YOU KNOW BASKIN ROBBINS IS CALLED 31 - NOT 16:14 BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT 31 FLAVORS, THEY GUARANTEE HAVING 31 FLAVORS 16:18 IN THE STORE AT ANY GIVEN TIME. 16:21 THEY HAVE HUNDREDS OF FLAVORS AND WE HAD NEW FLAVORS ROTATING 16:24 IN ALL THE TIME. AND I'M NOT KIDDING YOU, I WOULD 16:28 EAT A PRALINES AND CREAM BANANA SPLIT FOR LUNCH AND THEN I WOULD 16:32 HAVE A HOT FUDGE JAMOCHA SUNDAE FOR DINNER. 16:37 AND IT'S AMAZING, WHEN YOU'RE A TEENAGER, WHAT YOU CAN DO TO 16:40 YOURSELF. AND YOU FEEL INDESTRUCTIBLE. 16:45 BUT I REALLY WAS - IT WAS GETTING BAD. 16:47 I MEAN, I ATE A LOT OF ICE CREAM. 16:49 AND THE PROBLEM WAS, I WAS NOT ONLY NOW A USER, I WAS A DEALER. 16:53 (LAUGHTER) BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE COMING IN AND NOW I'M SELLING 16:58 IT. AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE WOULD COME 17:02 IN FOR ICE CREAM CAKES FOR A BIRTHDAY PARTY. 17:07 AND I REMEMBER MR. SCOTT, ONE DAY HE SAID, 'DOUG' - HE SAID, 17:10 'WHY DON'T YOU TRY' - YOU KNOW, YOU PERSONALIZE THE TOP OF THE 17:13 CAKE AND YOU WRITE ON IT - AND I WAS NO GOOD AT THAT. 17:17 HAVE ANY OF YOU EVER SEEN MY HANDWRITING? 17:19 PEOPLE WOULD COME TO PICK UP THEIR ICE CREAM BIRTHDAY CAKES 17:21 AND THEY'D GO, 'WHAT DOES THAT SAY?' 17:25 'IT SAYS 'HAPPY BIRTHDAY WILLIAM' - CAN'T YOU READ IT?' 17:29 YOU HAVE TO SQUEEZE THE STUFF OUT OF A TUBE WHILE YOU'RE 17:32 WRITING - I WASN'T ANY GOOD AT THAT. 17:34 BUT I WORKED THERE UNTIL I RAN AWAY FROM HOME. 17:37 AND THEN IT WAS HIT AND MISS ON THE ROAD FOR A LITTLE WHILE - 17:41 WITH ICE CREAM, BUT EVEN WHEN I MOVED UP INTO THE MOUNTAINS IN A 17:46 CAVE - NO REFRIGERATION, OBVIOUSLY - VERY LONG WAY TO 17:52 TOWN - GRUELING HIKE - BUT IT WAS THE DESERT. 17:55 BACK THEN THEY HAD THRIFTY'S DRUGSTORES EVERYWHERE. 18:00 I DON'T SEE - THRIFTY'S DRUGSTORE IS EVIDENTLY OUT OF 18:02 BUSINESS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN STILL 18:04 GET THRIFTY'S ICE CREAM, BUT IN ALL THEIR DRUG STORES THEY 18:07 HAD AN ICE CREAM COUNTER. DO YOU REMEMBER? 18:10 I'M NOT KIDDING. DO ANY OF YOU REMEMBER WHEN 18:13 IT WAS A NICKEL A SCOOP? >>AMEN! (LAUGHTER) 18:17 >>AND YOU COULD GET A TRIPLE SCOOP FOR FIFTEEN CENTS. 18:21 GO TRY AND FIND THAT. BUT WHEN YOU'RE LIVING IN A CAVE 18:26 IN A DESERT AND YOU'VE GOT NO REFRIGERATION, THE HIGHLIGHT FOR 18:28 ME WAS TO GO PANHANDLE AND SEE IF I COULD GET FIFTEEN CENTS. 18:34 I WOULD BEG ON THE STREET AND SAY, 'COULD I PLEASE HAVE 18:36 FIFTEEN CENTS FOR SOMETHING TO EAT?' 18:39 I DIDN'T TELL THEM WHAT I WAS GOING TO EAT, BUT IT'S TRUE, I 18:44 WOULD SPEND MY LAST FIFTEEN CENTS ON ICE CREAM. 18:49 AND I REMEMBER - I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE. 18:52 A LOT OF THE STREET PEOPLE - IT WAS A BIG DEAL. 18:54 THERE WERE OTHERS THAT WERE LIVING IN THE DESERT. 18:56 MOST OF THEM LIVED IN THE FIRST VALLEY. 18:58 I LIVED WAY BACK IN THE CANYON. 19:00 AND I REMEMBER, I WAS HANGING OUT ON THE STREET ONE DAY WITH 19:03 MY FRIENDS AND SOME KID HAD WALKED OUT OF THRIFTY'S WITH A 19:09 TRIPLE SCOOP OF ICE CREAM AND HE WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION AND THE 19:14 ICE CREAM GUY AT THE COUNTER - YOU KNOW, AT THRIFTY'S, WHEN YOU 19:16 GOT YOUR ICE CREAM, THE SAME GUY THAT WORKED THE CASH REGISTER, 19:19 HE WORKED THE COUNTER. AND HE DIDN'T ALWAYS KNOW WHAT 19:21 TO DO WITH ICE CREAM AND SO HE DIDN'T PRESS - THAT FIRST SCOOP 19:24 HAS TO GET PRESSED DOWN INTO THE CONE OR IT CAN BECOME DETACHED. 19:28 AND HE HAD A TRIPLE SCOOP AND THIS KID WALKED OUT ON THE 19:30 STREET AND HE TURNED AND THE THING FELL OFF THE CONE. 19:34 BUT IT LANDED - NOT FLAT - BUT IT LANDED STILL INTACT WITH 19:38 THREE SCOOPS - I KIND OF REPRODUCED THAT - THAT'S A 19:41 LITTLE BIT OF PHOTOSHOP (LAUGHTER) BUT IT LOOKED LIKE 19:44 THAT. IT LANDED - THREE SCOOPS - LIKE 19:46 THE TOWER OF PISA, STICKING STRAIGHT UP. 19:49 AND THE KID BEGAN TO CRY AND THE PARENTS, 'OH, COME ON IN, WE'LL 19:52 GET YOU ANOTHER ONE.' AND THEY WALKED IN THE STORE. 19:54 I'M STANDING THERE WITH MY FRIENDS (LAUGHTER) AND WE'RE 19:58 LOOKING AT THAT AND I SAID, 'YOU KNOW, ONLY PART OF THAT HIT THE 20:01 GROUND. KID DIDN'T EVEN LICK IT YET AND 20:04 IF HE DID LICK IT, THE PART HE LICKED IS THE PART 20:06 ON THE GROUND. THE OTHER STUFF IS STILL GOOD.' 20:09 AND WHILE WE WERE PROCESSING THAT, BEFORE I COULD ACT ON MY 20:12 THOUGHT, MY FRIEND RICHIE GOT DOWN ON ALL FOURS AND HE BEGAN 20:16 TO EAT THE ICE CREAM OFF THE STREET LIKE THAT. 20:22 REALLY, I DIDN'T DO IT. BUT I THOUGHT ABOUT IT BECAUSE I 20:25 THOUGHT, 'THAT'S SOME PERFECTLY GOOD ICE CREAM THAT'S GOING TO 20:27 WASTE RIGHT NOW.' AND I WAS MAD THAT RICHIE DID IT FIRST BECAUSE 20:34 I - I REALLY HAD IT PRETTY BAD. AND I WOULDN'T JUST EAT ONE 20:39 TRIPLE THING OF ICE CREAM, I WOULD EAT ONE WHEN I ARRIVED TO 20:42 TOWN AND THEN LATER IN THE DAY I'D GET ANOTHER ONE 20:44 BEFORE I WENT UP THE HILL. AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO LAST ME. 20:47 YOU KNOW, I USED TO WONDER WHY WAS IT SO IMPORTANT TO ME. 20:52 AND I LATER FOUND OUT THERE WAS A STUDY - BELIEVE IT OR NOT 20:56 THERE'S MEDICAL RESEARCH - JOURNAL OF CLINICAL 20:59 INVESTIGATION - THIS IS A STUDY DONE IN 2011. 21:03 A TEAM OF RESEARCHERS LED BY LUKAS VAN OUDENHOVE, UNIVERSITY 21:08 OF BELGIUM. THEY WERE PUBLISHING IMAGES OF 21:11 BRAIN ACTIVITY DURING TIMES OF SADNESS. AND THEY HAD TWELVE 21:16 VOLUNTEERS THAT HAD THEIR BRAINS SCANNED WITH AN MRI AND ALSO 21:21 AGREED TO HAVE A FEEDING TUBE PUT INTO THEIR STOMACH. 21:25 THEN THEY WERE SHOWN IMAGES AND PLAYED SOME NEUTRAL OR SAD MUSIC 21:30 AND SHOWN NEUTRAL OR SAD IMAGES AND THEN THEY WOULD RATE HOW 21:33 THEY FELT ON A SCALE OF ONE TO NINE. 21:35 AND WHEN THEY WERE FEELING SAD THEY WOULD THEN INJECT IN THEIR 21:38 STOMACHS A SOLUTION - SOME OF THEM GOT A SALT SOLUTION - THEY 21:41 DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING IN THEIR STOMACH. 21:44 SOME OF THEM WOULD GET A FAT SOLUTION THAT WOULD BE SIMILAR 21:47 TO WHAT YOU WOULD FIND IN ICE CREAM. 21:49 AND THEN THEY WOULD EVALUATE THEM AFTERWARD AND THEY FOUND 21:52 OUT, IN ALMOST EVERY CASE, THOSE WHO WERE SAD, AFTER BEING GIVEN 21:56 THE FATTY SOLUTION, IT SAYS THE EFFECT WAS SIGNIFICANT. 22:01 IN A PHARMACOLOGICAL SENSE, THE FATTY SOLUTION REDUCED THE 22:05 INTENSITY OF SAD EMOTIONS BY ALMOST HALF, WHICH IS ABOUT AS 22:09 MUCH AS ANY PRESCRIPTION ANTIDEPRESSANT CAN ACHIEVE. 22:14 AND SO YOU WERE WONDERING WHY YOU THOUGHT ICE CREAM WAS 22:16 COMFORT FOOD. THEY'VE FINALLY DONE RESEARCH TO 22:19 SAY THAT IT ACTUALLY DOES WORK AS AN ANTIDEPRESSANT. 22:24 SO I GUESS YOU COULD SAY I WAS ADDICTED TO ANTIDEPRESSANTS, 22:28 BUT IT CAME IN THE FORM OF HAAGAN DAZS. 22:30 (LAUGHTER) AND IT WAS PRETTY SERIOUS. 22:35 NOW YOU THINK I JEST. YOU KNOW, THE BIBLE SAYS THAT A 22:40 LITTLE BIT OF CERTAIN THINGS IS OKAY, BUT SOMETHING CAN BE TAKEN 22:45 TO AN EXTREME AND IT BECOMES SIN ECCLESIASTES 10:17, "BLESSED ARE 22:52 YOU O LAND, WHEN YOUR KING IS A CHILD, AND YOUR PRINCES 22:55 FEAST...AT THE PROPER TIME - FOR STRENGTH AND NOT FOR 22:58 DRUNKENNESS!" I MEAN, IT WAS TO EXCESS WITH ME. 23:03 AND EVEN WHEN I MOVED OUT OF THE CAVE - I LIVED FOR AWHILE - I 23:06 HAD A MEAT BUSINESS - LIVED IN PALM SPRINGS. 23:08 I AM NOT KIDDING YOU, I WOULD EAT ICE CREAM EVERY NIGHT AND I 23:13 WOULD, MORE THAN ONCE, EAT A HALF A QUART. 23:17 ONCE I ATE A WHOLE QUART. I STAYED UP LATE AND I LISTENED 23:21 TO CAL WORTHINGTON COMMERCIALS ON A LITTLE BLACK AND WHITE TV. 23:25 ANY OF YOU KNOW WHO THAT WAS? CAL WORTHINGTON? GO SEE CAL? 23:30 NOW THAT IS DEPRESSING, ISN'T IT? BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE 23:33 LIKE 19 - 20 YEARS OLD, IT'S AMAZING HOW MUCH YOU CAN EAT. 23:37 KAREN AND I CAN'T BELIEVE IT - NOW THAT BOTH THE BOYS ARE GONE 23:40 TO COLLEGE, WE OPEN THE REFRIGERATOR, THERE'S STILL FOOD 23:44 (LAUGHTER) IN THE REFRIGERATOR. IT'S AMAZING. 23:49 BUT, I MEAN, I REALLY WAS - I HAD A PROBLEM. 23:56 AND THEN EVEN AFTER I MOVED INTO THE HILLS IN COVELO, I GOT 24:00 BAPTIZED - THIS IS WHEN IT, I THINK, GOT REALLY SERIOUS - YOU 24:06 KNOW, WHEN YOU GIVE UP YOUR ADDICTIONS AND YOU'VE ONLY GOT 24:08 A FEW LEFT, YOU OVERCOMPENSATE. AND AS I GAVE UP DRUGS AND THE 24:14 SMOKING AND THE DRINKING, ALL I HAD LEFT WAS THE ICE CREAM. 24:19 THEN YOU REALLY GO OVERBOARD. AND I REMEMBER LIVING UP IN 24:25 COVELO, I WOULD QUOTE THE BIBLE AND I'D SAY, 'GOD IS TAKING US 24:31 TO A LAND FLOWING WITH MILK AND HONEY. 24:34 GOD BELIEVES IN ICE CREAM. THIS IS HEAVENLY FOOD.' 24:39 I MEAN, WHY WOULD HE SAY THAT HE'S GOING TO TAKE THEM TO A 24:41 LAND OF MILK AND HONEY? AND THEN I WENT TO THE STORE 24:44 AND I FOUND HAAGAN DAZS HONEY VANILLA. 24:46 I SAID, 'PRAISE THE LORD.' (LAUGHTER) 'THIS IS BIBLICAL.' 24:50 (LAUGHTER) AND I HAD SCRIPTURE FOR IT. 24:55 BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A VERSE THAT SAYS IF YOU FOUND HONEY - 24:59 PROVERBS 25:16 - "HAVE YOU FOUND HONEY? 25:01 EAT ONLY AS MUCH AS YOU NEED, LEST YOU BE FILLED WITH IT AND 25:07 VOMIT." SOME THINGS THAT ARE GOOD - THAT 25:11 ARE MEANT TO BE A TREAT - THAT GOD WOULD BLESS, YOU 25:13 CAN DO TO EXCESS. NOW THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT 25:17 PRINCIPLE OF WHAT I'M SHARING WITH YOU TODAY. 25:19 AND I KNOW YOU'RE LAUGHING - AND I'M MEANING FOR YOU TO - AND 25:22 SOME OF WHAT I'M SAYING IS TONGUE IN CHEEK, BUT I'M SHARING 25:25 THIS ODYSSEY WITH YOU BECAUSE IT RELATES TO REAL LIFE. 25:28 WHAT I'M SHARING WITH YOU IS TRUE. 25:29 I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP. I MEAN, I WAS ADDICTED. 25:34 FOR YEARS - I LOOK BACK AND IT'S JUST OVER THE - MY LIFE WAS 25:37 DEFINED - I HAD MY TONSILS TAKEN OUT WHEN I WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD. 25:41 MY MOTHER JUST COULDN'T FIGURE - THOUGHT I HAD BAD TONSILS - I 25:43 WAS JUST EATING SO MUCH DAIRY I COULDN'T BREATHE. 25:47 DIDN'T REALIZE I WAS ALLERGIC TO IT. 25:50 SO MOVED UP IN THE HILLS AND EVEN IN COVELO, I WOULD DRIVE 25:58 HALF AN HOUR ROUND TRIP TO TOWN - NO, ONE HOUR ROUND TRIP - ONE 26:02 HOUR - HALF AN HOUR EACH WAY - THANK YOU, DEAR - I'VE GOT A 26:05 WITNESS HERE - TO GET MY ICE CREAM. 26:10 AND I'M ASHAMED TO SAY THAT I THINK I ALSO WAS INFLUENCING 26:15 OTHERS. EVEN WHEN KAREN AND I BEGAN TO 26:17 DATE I'D SAY, 'YOU WANT TO SPLIT SOME ICE CREAM?' 26:23 (LAUGHTER) AND I'D GET VANILLA ALMOND AND I'D EAT SWISS VANILLA 26:31 - SWISS ALMOND - YEAH, I'D EAT THE ICE CREAM, SHE'D EAT THE 26:33 CHOCOLATE-COVERED ALMONDS. I REMEMBER JOHN LOMACANG WAS 26:37 REALLY WEIRD - YOU KNOW, WE'D BE ON THE ROAD DOING 26:39 EVANGELISTIC MEETINGS. 'HOW ABOUT SOME 26:40 ICE CREAM, JOHN?' I WAS A BAD INFLUENCE. 26:44 SO WE'D GO GET A PINT OF HAAGAN DAZS AND WE'D SIT DOWN AND 26:48 USUALLY WE WERE IN A HOTEL BECAUSE WE WERE DOING MEETINGS 26:50 AND I'D SAY, 'DON'T YOU WANT SOME OF THIS?' 26:53 'YEAH, JUST NOT YET. YEAH, I WANT SOME. 26:54 SAVE ME SOME.' AND SO I'D - I'D - 'HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT?' 26:57 'WELL, JUST, YOU KNOW, ABOUT HALF. 26:58 JUST SAVE ME SOME.' SO I'D EAT MINE AND SAY, 'DON'T YOU' - I'D 27:01 SET IT DOWN. HE WAITED UNTIL IT MELTED. 27:04 HE LIKED IT MELTED, THEN HE'D EAT IT. 27:08 I HAD ANOTHER FRIEND, WHEN I'D BE ON THE ROAD, WE'D TAKE THE 27:10 HAAGAN DAZS THING AND WE'D TAKE A KNIFE AND HE'D SAY, 'I'LL 27:14 SPLIT IT WITH YOU.' AND WE'D JUST CUT IT IN HALF AND 27:18 SOMEONE WOULD EAT OUT OF ONE HALF AND SOMEONE 27:19 WOULD EAT OUT OF THE OTHER. BUT ANY OF MY FRIENDS THAT WERE 27:23 CLOSE TO ME KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I WENT ON A HUNT. 27:28 I WENT ON A SAFARI LOOKING FOR ICE CREAM - AND I'D GO A LONG 27:33 WAY BECAUSE I - TO ME IT REPRESENTED COMFORT OR 27:40 SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW. I COULDN'T STOP. 27:42 BY THE WAY, IN SPITE OF THAT VERSE THAT SAYS HE'S BRINGING US 27:45 TO A LAND FLOWING WITH MILK AND HONEY, THAT DOESN'T MEAN GOD 27:47 WANTED US TO MIX IT ALL TOGETHER AND EAT IT AT ONCE. 27:51 IN THE BOOK COUNSELS ON DIET AND FOODS IT SAYS, "SOME USE MILK 27:55 AND A LARGE AMOUNT OF SUGAR ON THEIR MUSH" - THEIR CEREAL OR 27:57 OATMEAL - "THINKING THAT THEY'RE CARRYING OUT HEALTH REFORM, BUT 28:01 THE SUGAR AND THE MILK COMBINED ARE LIABLE TO CAUSE FERMENTATION 28:04 IN THE STOMACH AND THUS HARMFUL." 28:07 WHICH MEANS I PROBABLY WENT TO BED DRUNK A LOT FROM ICE CREAM. 28:14 AND THEN I REALIZED, FINALLY, IT HAD GONE TOO FAR. 28:20 NOW, I'M EMBARRASSED TO TELL YOU THIS, BUT WHEN I TRAVELED AND I 28:28 STAYED AT A HOTEL, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I'D DO IS I'D FIND 28:31 OUT 'WHERE'S A 7-11?' BECAUSE 7-11 CARRIES HAAGAN 28:35 DAZS OR BEN AND JERRY'S. BEN AND JERRY'S WAS NOT AS GOOD, 28:38 BUT - I ALWAYS FELT LIKE I WAS SUPPORTING A COUPLE OF DRUGGIES 28:41 WITH BEN AND JERRY'S, YOU KNOW? THEY HAD ICE CREAM CALLED 28:44 'CHERRY GARCIA' NAMED AFTER THE - YEAH, ANYWAY. 28:51 SO I'D GO TO A 7-11 - I'D LOOK FOR ONE - AND ONE TIME WHEN I 28:58 WAS GOING TO A HOTEL TO DO A MEETING AND BONNIE SAID, 'WELL, 29:02 THEY'VE GOT A SHUTTLE THAT GOES TO THE AIRPORT.' I SAID, 'WELL, 29:05 I'M GOING TO NEED A RENTAL CAR.' 'WELL, YOU WON'T NEED IT.' I 29:09 SAID, 'WELL, I MIGHT NEED TO GET SOMETHING TO EAT AND' - 29:12 YOU KNOW WHAT I WAS THINKING? HOTEL WAS TOO FAR AWAY FROM ICE 29:16 CREAM - I WAS AT THIS CONFERENCE CENTER AND I NEEDED A CAR 29:22 SO I COULD GET ICE CREAM. AND THEN, WHEN I REALIZED THAT 29:26 HERE, I HAD RENTED A CAR AND AMAZING FACTS SUPPORTERS WERE 29:29 PAYING FOR ME TO HAVE A RENTAL CAR SO I COULD GET ICE CREAM. 29:32 I FELT GUILTY. AND SO I REFUNDED THE MONEY AND 29:34 IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT ICE CREAM COST ME $35.00 A PINT. 29:38 (LAUGHTER) I'M NOT KIDDING. IT WAS THAT BAD. 29:45 ONLY ONCE OR TWICE DID I ORDER ROOM SERVICE - $8.00 FOR ICE 29:50 CREAM AND THEN YOU WANT TO TIP THE PERSON WHO BRINGS IT. 29:53 BECAUSE I'D TELL THEM, 'PLEASE HURRY' - BECAUSE THEY'D BRING IT 29:55 TO YOU ALL MELTED AND THEN IT'S NO GOOD. 29:59 AND I REALIZED THIS IS JUST STARTING TO - THIS HAS GONE TOO 30:02 FAR. I THOUGHT, 'I'VE GOT A PROBLEM.' 30:05 AND SO I STARTED PRAYING ABOUT IT. 30:07 I SAID, 'LORD, I'VE GOT TO STOP EATING ICE CREAM. 30:10 CERTAINLY, ANYTHING THAT IS PREOCCUPYING MY DAY - MY FATHER 30:14 WAS AN ALCOHOLIC AND I THINK I'VE GOT THAT NATURE. 30:18 MY FATHER WOULD PLAN HIS DAY AROUND ALCOHOL. 30:23 WHEN HE MADE LUNCH APPOINTMENTS, HE WOULDN'T JUST TAKE A PERSON 30:26 TO A RESTAURANT BECAUSE HE LIKED THE FOOD; THE RESTAURANT HAD TO, 30:30 FIRST AND FOREMOST, HAVE ALCOHOL. 30:33 THEN HE'D FIGURE OUT WHAT ELSE THEY HAD. 30:35 AND THEN, AFTER WORK, HE'D STOP AT THE BAR. 30:37 AND IF HE WENT ON VACATION IT HAD TO BE SOMEWHERE WHERE THERE 30:40 WAS A BAR. AND IF HE WENT ON A FISHING TRIP 30:43 OR IF HE WENT RACING OR WHATEVER HE DID, THERE WAS ALWAYS 30:45 THE ICE CHEST WITH ALCOHOL. HIS WHOLE LIFE THAT WAS JUST - 30:49 HAD TO BE THERE IN THE PICTURE. AND I WAS REALIZING ICE 30:51 CREAM WAS DOING THAT TO ME. I'D GET ON TV IN FRONT OF 30:55 EVERYBODY AND PREACH ABOUT THE HEALTH MESSAGE, DO A BACK HAND 30:58 SPRING AND THEN GO HOME AND EAT A PINT OF HAAGAN DAZS. 31:02 YES, SOMETIMES I'D EAT A WHOLE PINT. 31:05 THE AVERAGE AMERICAN EATS 42 PINTS OF ICE CREAM A YEAR. 31:10 I WAS EATING ABOUT 120. I'M NOT EXAGGERATING. 31:16 AND THEN I'D GO TO THE DOCTOR AND HE'D SAY, 'DOUG, CHOLESTEROL 31:19 LOOKS GOOD. BLOOD PRESSURE OKAY.' I'D SAY, 31:22 'NOT BOTHERING ME.' AND I HAD ALL THESE RATIONALIZATIONS. 31:28 BUT I KNEW I WAS ADDICTED. HOW DO YOU KNOW? 31:31 BECAUSE I COULDN'T STOP. I'D SPEND MY LAST FIFTEEN 31:35 CENTS ON ICE CREAM. I COULD TELL YOU MORE STORIES, 31:41 BUT I THINK YOU GET THE PICTURE. FINALLY I BECAME CONVINCED, 31:44 'ALRIGHT, I'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.' THEN I 31:46 WENT THROUGH A COUPLE OF YEARS OF A REAL STRUGGLE. 31:50 I THINK I WENT THROUGH ALL OF THE THROES AND THE TWISTS AND 31:52 THE TURNS OF ALL KINDS OF ADDICTIONS. 31:54 I'D STOP - I'D GO A DAY OR TWO AND FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT IT 31:57 AND THEN I'D SAY, 'I'M UNDER CONTROL NOW. 32:00 I THINK I CAN JUST HAVE A LITTLE BIT.' AND I GOT TO THE POINT 32:02 WHERE, INSTEAD OF EATING A PINT A DAY, I GOT TO WHERE IT WAS 32:07 HALF A PINT A DAY. AND THEN I GOT DOWN TO A THIRD 32:11 - ONE LITTLE PINT OF HAAGAN DAZS WOULD LAST ME THREE DAYS - AND 32:16 I FELT LIKE I WAS DOING PRETTY GOOD. 32:18 THAT WENT ON FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. 32:21 KAREN'S HERE - SHE'S NOT DISAGREEING WITH ME. 32:25 BONNIE WOULD INVITE ME OVER AND OFFER DESSERT. 32:28 SHE'D SAY, 'WE'VE GOT SOME ICE CREAM.' I'D SAY, 'NO, THANKS.' 32:31 BECAUSE I HAD GOOD STUFF AT HOME. (LAUGHTER) 32:34 SO I COULD TURN IT DOWN AS LONG AS I KNEW I COULD HAVE IT BEFORE 32:37 I WENT TO BED. AND, FOR SOME REASON, EVEN IF I 32:45 ATE LATE AND I ATE WAY TOO MUCH, IT ALWAYS SEEMED I HAD 32:49 ROOM FOR ICE CREAM. IF I DIDN'T HAVE IT I 32:53 WAS LIKE, INCOMPLETE. REALLY - I DON'T KNOW WHY. 32:59 AND THEN I GOT WHERE I'D GO A DAY OR TWO WITHOUT EATING ICE 33:01 CREAM. I'D GO TO THE MARKET AND - 33:07 BOY, IT WOULD BE A STRUGGLE. I'D SAY, 'KAREN, I'VE GOT TO GO 33:10 GET SOME CHIPS.' OR - SHE KNOWS - THAT'S THE OTHER THING I'M 33:14 ADDICTED TO, BUT THAT'S UNDER CONTROL - CORN CHIPS - 33:17 AND SALSA. I EAT A LOT OF CHIPS AND SALSA. 33:19 AND SO, I'D GO GET THE CHIPS AND THEN I'D GO UP AND DOWN THE 33:22 AISLE BY THE FROZEN SECTION AND LOOK AT IT. 33:26 (LAUGHTER) AND I'D - I'D SEE IT ON SALE. 33:32 NORMALLY IT WAS ALMOST THREE DOLLARS OR MORE AND IT WOULD BE 33:34 TWO FOR FIVE DOLLARS. I'D GO, 'LORD, IT MUST BE YOUR 33:36 WILL TODAY.' (LAUGHTER) 'BECAUSE IT'S ON SALE.' AND THEN I 33:43 FIGURED I'M NOT GOING TO BUY IT ANYMORE UNLESS IT'S ON SALE. 33:47 THAT'S HOW I GRAPPLED WITH MY GUILT. BUT WHEN I BOUGHT IT ON 33:49 SALE, I BOUGHT ENOUGH TO LAST UNTIL THE NEXT SALE. 33:53 AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHAT MADE THINGS DIFFICULT IS ONE OF THE 33:57 MEMBERS OF OUR CHURCH, WHO MIGHT BE HERE TODAY, I DON'T WANT TO 34:00 POINT HER OUT, WORKED AT THE SUPERMARKET WHERE I SHOPPED. 34:05 DON'T YOU LOVE IT WHEN THE PERSON WHO'S CHECKING YOU OUT AT 34:09 THE MARKET LOOKS AT WHAT'S IN YOUR SHOPPING CART AND SAYS 34:11 STUFF LIKE, 'OH, SOMEBODY'S GOT A SWEET TOOTH.' THEY COMMENT ON 34:16 WHAT YOU'RE BUYING. (LAUGHTER) AND SHE NOTICED 34:22 SEVERAL TIMES - I WOULD BE SHOWING UP 10:00 AT 34:26 NIGHT JUST FOR ICE CREAM. AND THEN I'D GO TO THE STORE AND 34:33 I'D LOOK FOR HER AND I'D SEE IF SHE WAS DOWN THERE AND I'D SNEAK 34:39 AROUND THE AISLES AND I'D THROW IT IN AND I'D LOOK BACK AND SAY, 34:44 'OH, SHE'S HELPING SOMEBODY ELSE. GO CHECK OUT - 34:45 SELF CHECK OUT - QUICK!' (LAUGHTER) I WAS LIVING A SECRET 34:49 LIFE. YEAH, IT WAS PRETTY BAD. 34:59 SO I WAS A HYPOCRITE. I'M PREACHING ABOUT THE HEALTH 35:04 MESSAGE AND I WAS ADDICTED TO JUNK FOOD. 35:10 AND I KNOW IT WASN'T GOOD FOR ME, EVEN THOUGH THE LORD BLESSED 35:13 ME WITH A RELATIVELY GOOD CONSTITUTION. 35:16 YOU KNOW, JESUS TALKS ABOUT THIS, WHERE HE SAID, 'WOE TO YOU 35:19 SCRIBES AND PHARISEES, HYPOCRITES! 35:21 YOU DEVOUR WIDOWS' HOUSES AND FOR A PRETENSE YOU MAKE LONG 35:24 PRAYERS.' IN LUKE 11, 'WOE TO YOU LAWYERS FOR YOU LOAD MEN 35:29 WITH BURDENS HARD TO BEAR AND YOU YOURSELVES DO NOT TOUCH THE 35:32 BURDENS WITH ONE OF YOUR FINGERS. SO I'D PREACH A SERMON 35:35 ON GAINING THE VICTORY OVER SIN WHEN I WAS A SLAVE. 35:39 NOW THE REASON I PICKED THIS SUBJECT - AND I PRAYED ABOUT 35:41 THIS - I THINK THE LORD WANTED ME TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS. 35:45 THE REASON I PICKED THIS SUBJECT BECAUSE THIS IS AT LEAST 35:47 SOMETHING I CAN CONFESS TO YOU AND YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO 35:49 GET ME FIRED. BUT IT WAS VERY REAL. 35:53 I WAS ADDICTED. AND I WAS HIDING IT. 35:57 AND I WAS WASTING MONEY. IT WAS EXPENSIVE - ADDICTION. 36:02 BUT LITTLE BY LITTLE - ANY OF YOU EVER HEARD THAT SONG CALLED 36:07 JUNK FOOD JUNKIE ? YEARS AGO - NOW THIS IS GOING TO 36:12 DATE YOU IF YOU KNOW THE WORDS TO THIS SONG. 36:15 YEARS AGO A GUY NAMED LARRY GROCE WROTE A SONG ABOUT - THIS 36:21 WAS BACK WHEN THE HIPPIES BEGAN TO GET INTO THE HEALTH-FOOD 36:23 MOVEMENT - ANY OF YOU REMEMBER EUELL GIBBONS AND THE NATURE 36:26 CEREAL? YEAH, OKAY. 36:30 THIS GUY WROTE A SONG CALLED JUNK FOOD JUNKIE AND IT ACTUALLY 36:38 KIND OF RELAYS THE KIND OF HYPOCRISY THAT SOME PEOPLE 36:41 STRUGGLE WITH - YOU'VE GOT YOUR PUBLIC LIFE AND THEN YOU'VE GOT 36:43 WHAT'S REAL. HE SAID, 'YOU KNOW THAT I LOVE 36:47 ORGANIC COOKING, I ALWAYS ASK FOR MORE, THEY CALL ME 36:49 MR. NATURAL ON DOWN AT THE HEALTH FOOD STORE. 36:52 I ONLY EAT GOOD SEA SALT, WHITE SUGAR DON'T TOUCH MY LIPS, AND 36:56 MY FRIENDS ARE ALWAYS BEGGING ME TO TAKE THEM ON MACROBIOTIC 36:59 TRIPS, BUT AT NIGHT I TAKE OUT MY STRONGBOX THAT I KEEP UNDER 37:03 LOCK AND KEY, AND I TAKE IT OFF TO MY CLOSET WHERE NO ONE ELSE 37:07 CAN SEE. I OPEN THE DOOR SO SLOWLY, TAKE 37:10 A PEEK UP NORTH AND SOUTH, AND THEN I PULL OUT A HOSTESS 37:13 TWINKIE AND I STUFF IT IN MY MOUTH. 37:16 IN THE DAYTIME I'M MR. NATURAL, JUST AS HEALTHY AS I CAN BE, BUT 37:21 AT NIGHT I'M A JUNK FOOD JUNKIE, DEAR LORD, HAVE PITY ON ME." 37:25 AND HE'S GOT SEVERAL VERSES THAT TELL A SIMILAR STORY ABOUT HOW 37:29 ALL OF HIS FRIENDS THINK HE'S SO NATURAL BUT - THE LAST ONE IS 37:33 ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD. HE SAID, 'OH FOLKS, BUT LATELY 37:40 I'VE BEEN SPOTTED WITH A BIG MAC ON MY BREATH, STUMBLING IN TO A 37:44 COLONEL SANDERS WITH A FACE AS WHITE AS DEATH. 37:47 I'M AFRAID SOMEDAY THEY'LL FIND ME JUST STRETCHED OUT ON MY BED, 37:51 WITH A HANDFUL OF PRINGLES POTATO CHIPS AND A DING-DONG BY 37:54 MY HEAD. IN THE DAYTIME I'M MR. NATURAL, 37:58 JUST AS HEALTHY AS I CAN BE, BUT AT NIGHT I'M A JUNK FOOD 38:01 JUNKIE.' YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS TALKING ABOUT IS KIND 38:04 OF LIVING A DOUBLE LIFE. NOW THIS PLAYS ITSELF OUT - I'M 38:10 TALKING ABOUT A PROBLEM WITH ICE CREAM. 38:13 THIS PLAYS ITSELF OUT IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS. 38:17 NOW SOME OF YOU ARE GOING TO BE REALLY SELF-CONSCIOUS IF YOU 38:20 INVITE PASTOR DOUG OVER AND YOU HAVE ICE CREAM FOR DESSERT. 38:23 DON'T WORRY, I GOT THE VICTORY, PRAISE GOD. 38:25 IT'S TAKEN YEARS BUT I GOT THE VICTORY. 38:28 I'M OKAY. I'M NOT SAYING ICE CREAM IS A SIN. 38:30 SHOPPING ONLINE IS NOT A SIN FOR EVERYBODY. 38:38 BUT I KNOW A PASTOR THAT HE WOULD GET ONLINE AND START 38:43 BUYING STUFF AND HE COULDN'T STOP. AND HIS HOUSE AND HIS 38:48 GARAGE WERE FILLED WITH PRODUCTS THAT WERE NOT EVEN OPENED - THAT 38:52 HE BOUGHT IMPULSIVELY, EITHER FROM SHOPPING CHANNEL OR SOME 38:57 SALE ONLINE - AND HE HAD SPENT ALL OF HIS MONEY - ALL OF HIS 39:01 RETIREMENT - AND WAS DEEPLY IN DEBT. 39:04 NOW IS THERE ANY SIN IN SHOPPING ON LINE? 39:08 I'VE DONE IT THIS YEAR. YOU CAN BUY STUFF. 39:09 YOU CAN SAVE MONEY. BUT SOME PEOPLE CAN'T. 39:14 AND YOU MAY HAVE WEAKNESSES AND YOU THINK, 'WELL, THIS ISN'T SO 39:17 BAD.' BUT HAS IT GOTTEN TOO BIG FOR YOU? 39:21 IS IT TAKING OVER IN YOUR LIFE? IS IT SOMETHING THAT'S OUT 39:24 OF BALANCE IN YOUR LIFE? SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE, 39:27 MAYBE, COVERING UP? NOW, I GOT SO BAD THAT I WAS ON 39:33 MY KNEES - YOU WOULD PROBABLY NEVER THINK THAT SOMEONE WOULD 39:36 HAVE TO GET ON THEIR KNEES AND PLEAD FOR THE VICTORY 39:39 OVER ICE CREAM. WELL I DID. 39:42 I FINALLY SAID, 'LORD,' - I'D QUIT FOR A WHILE AND THEN I'D 39:45 START AGAIN. I'D SAY, 'I'VE GOT 39:46 IT UNDER CONTROL. NOTHING'S WRONG WITH A LITTLE 39:48 BIT.' BUT I COULDN'T HANDLE A LITTLE BIT. 39:51 AND I FINALLY HAD TO SAY, 'LORD, HELP ME.' AND YOU KNOW, IT 39:56 REQUIRED HUMAN EFFORT BUT I BELIEVE GOD INTERVENED. 40:01 AND AS I MADE MY EFFORTS HUMANLY, THE LORD THEN TAKES IT 40:04 AWAY - HE GIVES YOU A SUPERNATURAL POWER. 40:07 THERE'S A STATEMENT TO THAT EFFECT. 'THE DIVINE COMBINED 40:12 WITH A HUMAN EFFORT WILL GIVE TO ALL PERFECT AND ENTIRE VICTORY. 40:16 EVERY BELIEVING MIND WILL BE FILLED WITH CONSCIOUS POWER. 40:20 THE LANGUAGE OF THE SOUL WILL BE 'I CAN DO ALL THINGS THROUGH 40:23 CHRIST THAT STRENGTHENS ME.'' NOW I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU, IN 40:30 FOLLOWING UP FROM MY PERSONAL STRUGGLE - I KNOW YOU THINK THIS 40:33 IS KIND OF STRANGE BUT THERE IS A POINT TO IT. 40:37 I PRAISE GOD - YOU MIGHT THINK IT'S ODD, BUT I PRAISE GOD 40:42 BECAUSE I WAS A SLAVE. IT CONTROLLED MY TIME, IT TOOK 40:46 MY MONEY, IT - AT THE END OF THE DAY IT HAD TO BE PART OF MY DAY. 40:49 IT WAS LIKE I ASSOCIATED IT WITH COMFORT. 40:51 IT WAS ALMOST EMOTIONAL. BUT I WAS ADDICTED. 40:55 BUT THE LORD TOOK IT AWAY FROM ME. 40:56 IT'S BEEN YEARS NOW. NOW I'M A VEGAN. 40:58 CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT? 40:59 FOR YEARS I WAS USING RICE DREAM AND ALMOND MILK AND SOY MILK IN 41:04 MY CEREAL AND TOLD EVERYONE I'M A VEGETARIAN - AND I WAS - BUT 41:08 AT NIGHT I WAS A GLUTTON WITH ICE CREAM. 41:14 DAYTIME I'M MR. NATURAL. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED - AND 41:20 ONE REASON I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS? 41:21 WHEN I FINALLY WENT TWO WEEKS WITHOUT EATING ICE CREAM - NO 41:25 DAIRY - I STARTED REALIZING, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I WAS 41:31 BREATHING. I'M NOT EXAGGERATING. 41:34 I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD AN ALLERGY TO MILK. 41:37 THIS IS NOT RELIGIOUS, I'M JUST TELLING YOU ME. 41:39 KAREN STILL EATS DAIRY - AND THE KIDS. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ITS 41:43 BEING SOMETHING RELIGIOUS. ALL MY LIFE I WAS ALLERGIC TO 41:47 MILK AND I DIDN'T KNOW IT AND I COULD NOT BREATHE THE WAY NORMAL 41:51 PEOPLE BREATHE AND I DIDN'T KNOW IT. 41:53 I DIDN'T EVEN - NOT KNOW WHAT IT FELT LIKE - BECAUSE EVEN IN THE 41:56 CAVE I'D GO DOWN AND I'D GET MY ICE CREAM. 41:58 IT TAKES A COUPLE WEEKS BEFORE IT ALL OF A SUDDEN HIT ME. 42:01 AND I STARTED BEING ABLE TO BREATHE. MY HEAD CLEARED UP. 42:05 MY SINUSES CLEARED UP - AND ONCE I REALIZED, 'SO THIS IS WHAT IT 42:11 FEELS LIKE TO BREATHE WITHOUT SNORTING AND COUGHING ALL THE 42:14 TIME.' MAN, I AM SO EXCITED THAT IF YOU OFFER ME ICE CREAM I SAY, 42:21 'OH MAN, I LIKE BREATHING. NO WAY.' THERE ARE 42:25 BENEFITS - SO PRAISE GOD. I MEAN, I AM JUST SO THANKFUL 42:28 THAT I GOT THE VICTORY IN THIS DEPARTMENT. 42:31 BUT THE SAME DYNAMICS THAT I STRUGGLED WITH ARE REAL IN OUR 42:36 LIVES ON SOMETHING THAT IS A LOT MORE SERIOUS. 42:40 SOME PEOPLE, MAYBE IT'S NOT ICE CREAM - MAYBE IT'S ALCOHOL. 42:45 THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT GO TO CHURCH AND THEY GO THROUGH THE 42:48 MOTIONS OF BEING A CHRISTIAN AND THEY'VE GOT AN ADDICTION TO 42:51 SHOPPING. THEY CAN'T CONTROL IT. 42:55 THEY DO IT FOR COMFORT. IT COULD BE SOME DRUG. 42:59 SOME PEOPLE SIT AT THE COMPUTER AND THEY'RE ADDICTED TO OTHER 43:01 THINGS. IT MIGHT BE PORNOGRAPHY. 43:05 AND IT'S LIKE YOU LIVE A SECRET LIFE. 43:08 THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT IT PLAYS OUT. 43:10 JESUS DOESN'T JUST COME TO SAVE US IN OUR SIN, HE COMES TO SAVE 43:14 US FROM OUR SIN - AND HE CAN. AND YOU'LL HAVE A PEACE AND A 43:18 JOY, WHEN HE DOES, THAT'S UNLIKE ANYTHING YOU CAN IMAGINE. 43:21 ROMANS 6, VERSE 12 - THIS WAS OUR MEMORY VERSE - "THEREFORE DO 43:25 NOT LET SIN REIGN" - NOW GOD DIDN'T SAY THAT WE'RE 43:29 NEVER GOING TO STUMBLE AND FALL. 43:31 HE SAYS, 'IF ANY MAN SIN WE HAVE AN ADVOCATE WITH THE FATHER.' 43:34 WHAT HE DOES SAY, THOUGH, IS SIN SHOULD NOT REIGN OVER YOU - "IN 43:39 YOUR MORTAL BODY, THAT YOU SHOULD OBEY IT IN ITS LUSTS. 43:42 AND DO NOT PRESENT YOUR MEMBERS AS INSTRUMENTS OF 43:44 UNRIGHTEOUSNESS TO SIN, BUT PRESENT YOURSELVES TO GOD AS 43:48 BEING ALIVE FROM THE DEAD, AND YOUR MEMBERS AS INSTRUMENTS OF 43:51 RIGHTEOUSNESS TO GOD. FOR SIN SHALL NOT HAVE DOMINION 43:54 OVER YOU, FOR YOU ARE NOT UNDER LAW BUT UNDER GRACE." 43:58 JUMP DOWN TO VERSE 17 IN ROMANS 6, "BUT GOD BE THANKED THAT 44:03 THOUGH YOU WERE SLAVES OF SIN, YET YOU OBEYED FROM THE HEART 44:06 THAT FORM OF DOCTRINE TO WHICH YOU WERE DELIVERED. 44:09 AND HAVING BEEN SET FREE FROM SIN, YOU BECAME SLAVES OF 44:12 RIGHTEOUSNESS. I SPEAK IN HUMAN TERMS BECAUSE 44:14 OF THE WEAKNESS OF YOUR FLESH. FOR JUST AS YOU PRESENTED 44:18 YOUR MEMBERS AS SLAVES OF UNCLEANNESS, AND OF LAWLESSNESS 44:21 LEADING TO MORE LAWLESSNESS, SO NOW PRESENT YOUR MEMBERS AS 44:25 SLAVES OF RIGHTEOUSNESS FOR HOLINESS." AND HE GOES ON TO SAY 44:30 IN VERSE 23, "FOR THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH, BUT THE GIFT OF 44:33 GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE IN CHRIST JESUS OUR LORD." 44:37 YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK UP HIGHER IN THE SAME CHAPTER, PAUL SAYS, 44:40 IN 1 CORINTHIANS CHAPTER 10, 'ALL THINGS ARE LAWFUL FOR ME 44:47 BUT NOT ALL THINGS ARE EXPEDIENT.' YOU MIGHT EVEN FIND 44:50 SOMETHING THAT INHERENTLY MAY NOT BE BAD, BUT IT IS OUT OF 44:53 BALANCE IN YOUR LIFE AND IT'S TAKING UP YOUR TIME. 44:58 SOME PEOPLE, THEY ARE ADDICTED TO A TV PROGRAM. 45:04 I KNOW, IT'S HARD FOR US TO UNDERSTAND IT, SOMETIMES. 45:08 THE THINGS THAT TEMPT YOU MAY NOT TEMPT ME. 45:10 YOU MIGHT LAUGH AT WHAT WAS A PROBLEM FOR ME. 45:13 'SO, YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM WITH - I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.' IT'S NOT 45:16 YOUR PROBLEM, IT WAS MY PROBLEM. WHO KNOWS WHY? 45:19 BUT THOSE SAME PEOPLE - I KNOW PEOPLE THAT ARE CHRISTIANS - A 45:26 LOT OF THEM - AND AT A CERTAIN TIME EVERY DAY THEY'VE GOT TO BE 45:30 WHERE A TV IS OR THEY TAPE IT AND THEY'VE GOT TO WATCH A SOAP 45:34 OPERA BECAUSE THEY'VE GOTTEN SUCKED INTO THIS ARTIFICIAL - 45:38 NOW I LAUGH AT THAT. I CANNOT UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE 45:41 WILL LOOK AT THESE ACTORS GOING THROUGH THESE BIZARRE THINGS ON 45:45 TV SAYING, 'OH NO, WAS IT WITH HER?' 45:47 'YES, IT'S WITH HER.' 'OH, BUT DID YOU KILL HIM?' 45:50 'NO, I KILLED' - AND THEY'RE GOING 'AAAAAH!' 45:52 AND THEY'RE CRYING WATCHING ALL THIS. 45:54 I'VE TRIED TO GIVE BIBLE STUDIES TO PEOPLE - THEY'VE GOT THE SOAP 45:57 OPERA ON AND THEY SAY, 'OH, JUST A MINUTE.' 'OH!' 46:00 AND THEY GET - I CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT, BUT IT GETS AHOLD 46:04 OF THEM AND THEIR LIVES REVOLVE AROUND THAT PROGRAM AS MY 46:09 STOMACH TURNS - OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED - AND IT TAKES OVER 46:13 THEIR LIFE. AND FOR MOST PEOPLE IT'S NOT AN ISSUE. 46:18 NOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR PET TEMPTATION IS. 46:20 WE'RE ALL DIFFERENT. SOME OF YOU ARE PETER. 46:24 SOME ARE JAMES. SOME ARE JOHN. SOME ARE MARY. SOME ARE MARTHA. 46:28 THE DEVIL KNOWS WHAT IT IS AND HE WANTS TO GET AHOLD OF YOU SO 46:33 IT CONTROLS YOU - SO IT BECOMES THE DEFINING INFLUENCE IN YOUR 46:36 LIFE INSTEAD OF JESUS BEING THE ONE WHO'S IN CONTROL OF YOUR 46:40 LIFE. AND, AT SOME POINT, THE FIRST 46:43 STEP IS YOU'VE GOT TO - LIKE I DID - SAY 'THIS 46:45 IS OUT OF CONTROL. I'VE GOT A PROBLEM AND, LORD, I 46:49 NEED YOUR HELP.' AND IT'S NOT A GOOD WITNESS. 46:54 YOU KNOW, WHEN - UP IN THE HILLS NEAR OUR CABIN, WE'VE GOT A FEW 47:02 TREES THAT ARE NICE LOOKING TREES. 47:05 AND I WAS OUT WALKING ONE DAY AND I REMEMBER SEEING THAT THIS 47:09 POISON OAK VINE WAS BEGINNING TO GO UP A RATHER PICTURESQUE OAK 47:14 TREE UP THERE IN THE HILLS AND I DIDN'T THINK MUCH OF IT. 47:19 NOW, USUALLY, THE POISON OAK, IT JUST KIND OF CRAWLS ALONG THE 47:22 GROUND. IT'S NOT VERY BIG. 47:23 OR IT MIGHT GET UP IN THE MANZANITA BUSHES A LITTLE BIT, 47:25 BUT THEY ARE VINES AND, UNENCUMBERED, THEY WILL CONTINUE 47:28 TO GROW AND THEY GET PRETTY MASSIVE. 47:31 AND A FEW YEARS LATER I WENT WALKING BY THAT SAME TREE AND I 47:35 NOTICED THAT THE POISON OAK VINE HAD WRAPPED AROUND AND WAS GOING 47:39 UP INTO THE TREE AND IT WAS CREATING A LOT OF WEIGHT ON THE 47:43 BRANCHES - TAKING OVER THE WHOLE LOWER HALF OF THIS VERY BIG, 47:46 MAJESTIC OAK TREE, WHICH NORMALLY WOULD BE VERY STRONG 47:48 AND INDEPENDENT - AND I REALIZED THAT SOMETHING HAD TO BE DONE 47:53 OR, WHEN THE SNOW CAME, THE WEIGHT WAS GOING TO TAKE THAT 47:55 TREE DOWN. ALL IT TOOK WAS A CHAINSAW AND 48:00 ONE CUT AND I KNEW IT WOULD DIE. EVEN THOUGH I MADE THE CUT, THE 48:08 VINE WAS STILL HANGING THERE, BUT I WASN'T WORRIED ANYMORE 48:10 BECAUSE ONCE I KNEW I MADE THE CUT, IT WAS GOING TO DIE. 48:14 AND, SURE ENOUGH, AS TIME WENT BY, THE VINE ROTTED, IT BLEW OUT 48:18 OF THE TREE, THE TREE CONTINUED TO FLOURISH AND STAND STRONG. 48:22 SOME OF US KNOW WE'VE GOT TENDRILS - AND THEY START SMALL 48:26 - IN OUR LIVES, BUT THEY'LL CONTINUE TO GROW AND WRAP 48:28 THEMSELVES AROUND YOUR LIFE AND START SAPPING THE STRENGTH AND 48:32 DISTRACTING YOUR ENERGY AND YOUR TIME FROM WHAT GOD WANTS YOU TO 48:35 DO. NOW, I'LL INTERPRET YOUR SILENCE 48:41 TO MEAN THAT MAYBE THE HOLY SPIRIT IS SPEAKING TO YOU AND 48:45 YOU KNOW THERE'S THINGS IN YOUR LIFE THAT ARE OUT OF BALANCE. 48:49 IT MAY BE SOMETHING AS OUTWARDLY HARMLESS AS ICE CREAM. 48:54 IT MAY BE SOMETHING MORE SERIOUS. 48:56 IT MIGHT BE A SERIOUS SUBSTANCE ABUSE OR PRACTICE OR 49:00 RELATIONSHIP THAT IS UNHEALTHY AND YOU NEED TO SAY, 'LORD, I 49:06 CAN'T DO THIS WITHOUT YOUR HELP.' AND YOU COME TO JESUS AND 49:10 YOU CONFESS THAT YOU NEED SUPERNATURAL INTERVENTION AND 49:14 THE LORD CAN GIVE YOU THE VICTORY AND YOU WILL REJOICE. 49:18 AND IT IS SO NICE WHEN YOU CAN LOOK BACK AND SAY, 'FREE AT 49:23 LAST, FREE AT LAST, THANK GOD ALMIGHTY I'M FREE AT LAST.' IT 49:27 IS SO NICE TO KNOW THAT THING DOESN'T HAVE DOMINION OVER YOU 49:31 ANYMORE. IT'S NOT CONTROLLING 49:32 AND DEFINING YOUR LIFE. HE WANTS YOU TO HAVE THAT 49:35 FREEDOM AND THAT EXPERIENCE. 49:37 >>CAN'T GET ENOUGH 49:39 AMAZING FACTS BIBLE STUDY? YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 49:42 NEXT WEEK TO ENJOY MORE TRUTH-FILLED PROGRAMMING, WATCH 49:46 AMAZING FACTS TELEVISION BY VISITING 'AFTV.ORG'. 49:52 AT 'AFTV.ORG' YOU CAN VIEW AMAZING FACTS PROGRAMMING 24 49:56 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK, RIGHT FROM YOUR COMPUTER OR MOBILE 50:00 DEVICE. WHY WAIT A WEEK? VISIT 'AFTV.ORG'. 50:05 IT'S THAT EASY. (MUSIC) 50:18 >>WHAT CAN BE MORE IRRESISTIBLE THAN A KITTEN? 50:20 THESE GUYS MIGHT LOOK CUTE NOW, BUT SOME OF THEIR ANCESTORS HAVE 50:23 GROWN INTO MAN EATERS. (BIG CATS ROARING) WE'RE HERE 50:30 IN A LION PARK IN SOUTH AFRICA, NOW, WHERE WE CAN VIEW THESE 50:33 CREATURES IN RELATIVE SAFETY. BUT THERE'S A REASON THEY'RE 50:35 KNOWN AS THE KING OF BEASTS. SO WHAT IS IT THAT PEOPLE FIND 50:39 SO ENCHANTING AND FRIGHTENING ABOUT LIONS? 50:42 IS IT THEIR SPEED? THEIR CLAWS? 50:44 THEIR SHARP TEETH? OR ALL OF THE ABOVE? 50:47 IT MIGHT ALSO BE SOME OF THE STORIES ABOUT MAN-EATING LIONS, 50:50 LIKE IN 1898 RIGHT HERE IN AFRICA, THEY WERE BUILDING A 50:54 BRIDGE OVER THE SABO RIVER IN KENYA AND TWO BROTHER LIONS 50:58 TERRORIZED THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, EATING 135 WORKERS. 51:04 DID YOU KNOW LIONS ARE MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE OVER 100 TIMES AND 51:08 YOU CAN FIND THEM ALL THE WAY FROM GENESIS TO REVELATION. 51:11 IT'S USUALLY IN REFERENCE TO THEIR FEROCITY AND HOW DANGEROUS 51:14 THEY ARE. OF COURSE, SAMSON KILLED A 51:16 LION WITH HIS BARE HANDS. DAVID KILLED A LION. 51:20 THERE ARE MAN-EATING LIONS IN THE BIBLE. 51:22 THE WAY THAT THEY PUNISHED CRIMINALS WAS BY THROWING THEM 51:24 IN THE LIONS DEN - AND EARLY CHRISTIANS WERE EVEN FED TO 51:27 LIONS. BUT, AMAZINGLY, AS THE BIBLE 51:30 MENTIONS, NOT ALL LIONS ARE TO BE FEARED. 51:33 THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW FRIENDLY LIONS IN HISTORY. 51:36 FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE 1950S A COUPLE, GEORGE AND MARGARET 51:40 WESTBEAU, WHO LIVED UP AT A RANCH NEAR SEATTLE, WASHINGTON, 51:44 ADOPTED AN ABANDONED LION CUB. THEY NAMED IT LITTLE TYKE 51:48 BECAUSE THEY FELT SORRY FOR IT. BUT THEY DISCOVERED, AS THEY 51:51 TRIED TO FEED HER, SHE REFUSED TO EAT ANY MEAT AT ALL. 51:55 THEY WERE CONCERNED, THINKING THERE WAS NO HOPE FOR THIS 51:58 LITTLE LIONESS TO SURVIVE - AND EVERYBODY TOLD THEM THE SAME, 52:01 BECAUSE WE KNOW, IN THE WILD, LIONS SURVIVE ON ALMOST AN 52:04 ENTIRELY MEAT DIET. THEN SOMEONE SHOWED THE 52:07 WESTBEAUS THAT VERSE IN THE BIBLE THAT TALKS ABOUT, IN 52:10 HEAVEN, THE ANIMALS ARE VEGETARIANS AND THE LION 52:13 WILL EAT STRAW LIKE THE OX. THAT ENCOURAGED THEM AND SO THEY 52:18 BEGAN TO FEED LITTLE TYKE A PURELY VEGETARIAN DIET. 52:21 NOT ONLY DID SHE SURVIVE, SHE THRIVED, GROWING INTO A LION 52:25 THAT WAS OVER 352 POUNDS AND OVER TEN FEET LONG. 52:30 IN FACT, ZOOLOGISTS THAT EXAMINED LITTLE TYKE, WHEN SHE 52:33 WAS FULL GROWN, SAID THEY HAD NEVER SEEN SUCH A PERFECT 52:36 SPECIMEN OF A LIONESS IN THEIR LIFE - A PURE VEGETARIAN. 52:41 YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HEAR INCREDIBLE STORIES ABOUT THAT OF 52:43 LITTLE TYKE, IT REMINDS US THAT GOD'S ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO MAKE 52:47 A WORLD OF TOTAL PEACE. IT DESCRIBES IT HERE IN THE 52:50 BIBLE IN ISAIAH CHAPTER 11, VERSE 6, "THE WOLF ALSO SHALL 52:54 DWELL WITH THE LAMB, THE LEOPARD SHALL LIE DOWN WITH THE YOUNG 52:57 GOAT, THE CALF AND THE YOUNG LION AND THE FATLING TOGETHER; 53:01 AND A LITTLE CHILD SHALL LEAD THEM." 53:03 NOTHING IS GOING TO HURT AND DESTROY IN THE NEW HEAVENS AND 53:06 THE NEW EARTH THAT GOD IS GOING TO CREATE. 53:08 WOULDN'T YOU LIKE TO LIVE IN A KINGDOM WHERE THERE'S PERFECT 53:10 PEACE - WHERE THERE'S NO MORE DEATH OR KILLING OR PAIN? 53:13 GOD SAYS THAT HE WANTS YOU IN THAT KINGDOM. 53:16 THE LAMB OF GOD MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO HAVE AN ENCOUNTER 53:20 WITH THE LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH. 53:23 WOULDN'T YOU LIKE TO MEET HIM TODAY? 53:25 (MUSIC) 53:32 >>LET'S FACE IT, IT'S NOT ALWAYS EASY TO UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING 53:35 YOU READ IN THE BIBLE. WITH OVER 700,000 WORDS CONTAINED IN 53:39 66 BOOKS, THE BIBLE CAN GENERATE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. TO GET 53:43 BIBLICAL STRAIGHTFORWARD ANSWERS CALL IN TO BIBLE ANSWERS LIVE - 53:47 A LIVE NATIONWIDE CALL-IN RADIO PROGRAM WHERE YOU CAN TALK TO 53:51 PASTOR DOUG BATCHELOR AND ASK HIM YOUR MOST DIFFICULT BIBLE 53:54 QUESTIONS. FOR TIMES AND STATIONS IN YOUR AREA, OR TO 53:57 LISTEN TO ANSWERS ONLINE, VISIT BAL.AMAZINGFACTS.ORG . 54:11 >>AMAZING FACTS, CHANGED LIVES. 54:20 >>WELL, MY CONVERSION STORY IS WHEN I WAS IN THE PHILIPPINES I 54:25 JUST GRADUATED AS A NURSE AND AFTERWARDS I DID NOT HAVE ANY 54:30 RELIGION AND ONE TIME I FOUND MYSELF INSIDE A SMALL CHURCH - 54:36 CATHOLIC CHURCH IN MANILLA AND BEFORE A BIG CROSS. 54:42 AND I WAS KNEELING BEFORE AND I COULD HEAR JESUS TELLING ME TO 54:48 ENTER THE CONVENT - SAVE MYSELF AND ALSO MY FAMILY. 54:53 AND I SAID, 'LORD, I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW YOU ALL THE WAY.' AT 54:56 THAT POINT, I SEEMED TO BE HAPPY EXTERNALLY BUT, BECAUSE INSIDE 55:01 THE CONVENT WE DON'T READ OUR BIBLE - WE DON'T STUDY ABOUT THE 55:05 WORD OF GOD. WE PRAY THE ROSARIES. 55:08 WE ALSO, AT THE SAME TIME, STUDY THE LIVES OF THE SAINTS AND ALSO 55:13 OUR FOUNDERS AND THE ENCYCLICALS OF THE POPE AND THE VIRGIN MARY. 55:19 AND SO I DO NOT KNOW THE TRUTH AND I HAD THIS TORTURE OF 55:22 CONSCIENCE - THE GUILTY FEELINGS THAT CANNOT BE RESOLVED. 55:27 SO I WOULD CONFESS TO THE PRIEST IN THE CONFESSIONAL BOX SAYING, 55:31 'FATHER FORGIVE ME. SINCE - MY LAST CONFESSION WAS 55:34 LAST WEEK - SINCE THEN I HAVE COMMITTED THE FOLLOWING SIN, 55:39 INCLUDING THE ROOT CAUSE, WHY AM I FALLING AND FALLING IN THAT 55:43 SAME SIN OVER AND OVER AGAIN?' AND STILL, FOR 21 LONG YEARS, I 55:49 STRUGGLE AND I STRUGGLE AND I STRUGGLE. 55:53 I REALIZED THAT I WAS TOTALLY EMPTY. 55:57 I WAS TOTALLY HELPLESS AND HOPELESS AND SO DEPRESSED AND SO 56:01 DESPERATE THAT I WOULD LIKE ALREADY TO END MY LIFE. 56:06 I WAS WORKING FOR FIVE YEARS AS DEAN OF THE UNIVERSITY OF SAINT 56:10 AUGUSTINE COLLEGE OF NURSING IN ILOILO CITY ON ONE OF THE 56:14 ISLANDS IN THE PHILIPPINES. AFTER FIVE YEARS I RECEIVE MY 56:20 COMMISSION FROM MY PARENTS TO HELP MY SISTER WHO IS 56:25 BEING A BATTERED WOMAN. THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I 56:29 CAME OVER TO UNITED STATES, IT IS BECAUSE MY SISTER 56:34 NEEDS MY HELP. AS I WAS WORKING IN THE HOSPITAL 56:37 IN NEW YORK, MY BOSS SERAPHIN, HE WAS SO GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO 56:41 GIVE ME AN INVITATION TO THE MILLENNIUM PROPHECY. 56:45 AS I WAS LISTENING TO PASTOR DOUG BATCHELOR'S PRESENTATION, 56:50 MY HEART REALLY WAS BEATING SO FAST AND MY MIND - I'M ABLE TO 56:55 GRASP THE TRUTH THAT THIS IS THE TRUTH THAT I'VE BEEN LONGING TO 57:01 HEAR ALL MY LIFE - THAT I'VE BEEN SEEKING FOR SO LONG. 57:07 MY PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS - I CAN SEE JESUS AS MY 57:11 PERSONAL SAVIOR. HE IS NOT ONLY THE SAVIOR OF 57:15 THE WHOLE WORLD, BUT HE IS MY PERSONAL SAVIOR. 57:19 HE WAS THE ONE WHO DELIVERED ME MIGHTILY FROM THE DEPTHS OF SIN 57:25 - FROM THE MIREY CLAY. PASTOR DOUG BATCHELOR HAS 57:29 BEEN USED BY THE LORD IN MY CONVERSION. 57:32 THE AMAZING FACTS I OWE TO THEM. THE LORD REALLY BLESSED THIS 57:38 MINISTRY AND I'M SO PROUD I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THIS 57:43 MILLENNIUM PROPHECY. MY LIFE HAS NEVER BEEN THE SAME. 57:47 IT HAS GIVEN ME THAT PEACE - THAT JOY THAT NEVER - I HAVE 57:53 NEVER TASTED IN MY LIFE AND NOW I'M SET FREE TO BE ABLE TO WORK 57:59 FOR HIM AND TO FOLLOW HIM. 58:03 (MUSIC) |
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