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>>ON CHRISTMAS EVE 1971,
17-YEAR-OLD JULIANE KOEPCKE
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BOARDED LANSA FLIGHT #508
WITH HER MOTHER IN LIMA, PERU.
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THEY INTENDED TO JOIN HER FATHER
FOR CHRISTMAS AT HIS RESEARCH
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STATION IN THE
AMAZON RAIN FOREST.
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AFTER CROSSING THE ANDES
AT ABOUT 21,000 FEET, THEIR
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AIRCRAFT WAS ENVELOPED BY
LARGE, DARK THUNDERCLOUDS AND IT
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ENCOUNTERED SEVERE TURBULENCE.
LIGHTNING WAS FLASHING
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EVERYWHERE AND THE PLANE
WAS SHAKEN VIOLENTLY, WHICH
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NATURALLY
TERRIFIED THE PASSENGERS.
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THEN, A BOLT OF LIGHTNING STRUCK
THE PLANE'S ENGINE AND TORE OFF
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A WING. AS THE
DOOMED AIRLINER HURTLED
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TOWARDS THE EARTH, THE CABIN
CAME APART AND THE NEXT THING
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SHE KNEW, JULIANE FOUND HERSELF
STRAPPED ALONE TO A ROW OF SEATS
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FALLING AND SPINNING
SILENTLY FROM OVER 10,000 FEET
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ABOVE THE RAIN FOREST. SHE
PLUMMETED THROUGH THE JUNGLE
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CANOPY AND SLAMMED
ON THE FOREST FLOOR.
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WHEN SHE AWOKE THE NEXT DAY,
JULIANE WAS AMAZED TO REALIZE
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SHE HAD SURVIVED THE
TWO-MILE FALL WITH JUST A BROKEN
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COLLARBONE AND A
BAD GASH IN HER ARM.
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AFTER FAILING TO FIND ANY OTHER
SURVIVORS, JULIANE RELIED ON
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WHAT HER FATHER HAD TAUGHT HER:
THAT WALKING DOWNSTREAM WILL
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ALWAYS LEAD TO CIVILIZATION.
SO, WITH A BAG OF CANDY THAT HAD
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FALLEN FROM THE PLANE AND
ONE SANDAL, SHE STARTED WALKING.
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FOR TEN DAYS JULIANE HOBBLED,
SWAM, OR FLOATED DOWNSTREAM.
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HER WOUNDS BECAME INFECTED AND
SHE WAS PLAGUED BY MAGGOTS WHILE
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HAVING TO DODGE CROCODILES,
PIRANHAS, AND RELENTLESS
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INSECTS.
EVENTUALLY SHE CAME TO A SHACK
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WHERE SHE SLEPT AND SHE WAS SOON
DISCOVERED BY PERUVIAN LOGGERS.
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EVENTUALLY JULIANE WAS
UNITED WITH HER AMAZED FATHER.
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IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE A
17-YEAR-OLD GIRL SURVIVING SUCH
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A FALL AND THEN HIKING
ALONE OUT OF THE WORLD'S LARGEST
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RAINFOREST. YOU
KNOW, THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT
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SOME WHO SURVIVED AN EVEN
GREATER FALL THAN JULIANE.
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IN FACT, ACCORDING TO THE
SCRIPTURES, WHEN ADAM AND EVE
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FELL IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN,
IT BROUGHT THE WHOLE HUMAN RACE
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DOWN. BUT JESUS CAME TO
REDEEM THE WORLD FROM SIN.
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PERHAPS YOU'RE THINKING TO
YOURSELF, 'WELL, THAT'S OKAY FOR
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THE WORLD, BUT
I'VE FALLEN TOO FAR.
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WELL, IF THE LORD CAN
SAVE JULIANE, GOD CAN SAVE YOU.
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YOU'VE NOT GONE FARTHER THAN
MOSES, WHO WAS GUILTY OF MURDER,
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OR DAVID, WHO WAS GUILTY OF
ADULTERY, OR PETER, WHO DENIED
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JESUS - AND ALL OF THEM WERE
SAVED AND RESTORED FROM THEIR
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FALL. OR MAYBE
YOU'RE THINKING, 'I'VE
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FALLEN TOO MANY
TIMES.' BE OF GOOD COURAGE.
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IT SAYS IN PROVERBS CHAPTER 24,
VERSE 16, "FOR A RIGHTEOUS MAN
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MAY FALL SEVEN TIMES AND RISE
AGAIN" - AND JESUS CAST SEVEN
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DEVILS OUT OF MARY MAGDALENE.
SO DON'T GET DISCOURAGED,
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FRIEND, IF YOU'VE
FALLEN, GET BACK UP AGAIN.
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THE SAME WAY THAT HE COULD SAVE
JULIANE - LEAD HER FROM THAT
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LOST CONDITION IN THE RAINFOREST
AND RESTORE HER TO HER FATHER,
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JESUS CAN LEAD YOU FROM YOUR
LOST CONDITION AND RESTORE YOU
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TO YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER. (MUSIC)
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>>DID YOU KNOW THAT NOAH WAS
PRESENT AT THE BIRTH OF ABRAHAM?
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OKAY, MAYBE HE WASN'T IN
THE ROOM, BUT HE WAS ALIVE AND
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PROBABLY TELLING
STORIES ABOUT HIS FLOATING ZOO.
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FROM THE CREATION OF THE
WORLD TO THE LAST-DAY EVENTS OF
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REVELATION, 'BIBLEHISTORY.COM'
IS A FREE RESOURCE WHERE YOU CAN
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EXPLORE MAJOR BIBLE
EVENTS AND CHARACTERS.
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ENHANCE YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF THE
BIBLE AND DRAW CLOSER TO GOD'S
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WORD. GO DEEPER.
VISIT THE AMAZING BIBLE TIME
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LINE AT
'BIBLEHISTORY.COM'. (MUSIC)
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>>AMAZING FACTS
CHANGED LIVES. (MUSIC)
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>>I GREW UP HERE IN NEW
YORK CITY, I GUESS DEALING WITH
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ALL THE TEMPTATIONS THAT
YOU WOULD HAVE IN A BIG CITY.
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EVERYTHING THAT YOU COULD
IMAGINE THAT YOU COULD RUN INTO
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- DRUGS, CRIME
- WAS ALWAYS HERE.
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WHEN I WAS AT A YOUNG AGE I
ACTUALLY GOT INTO TROUBLE WITH
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THE LAW AND MY ONLY OUT WAS TO
JOIN THE MILITARY AT THE TIME,
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IN ORDER TO NOT DO TIME.
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SO I LEFT NEW YORK AND TRAVELED
THE WORLD A LITTLE BIT WHILE I
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WAS IN THE MILITARY.
EVENTUALLY I CAME BACK.
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HAVING GROWN UP AS A HIP-HOP
KID I EVENTUALLY FOUND MYSELF
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WORKING IN THE
MUSIC BUSINESS, ACTUALLY.
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I WORKED AT A COUPLE OF MAJOR
RADIO STATIONS - HIP-HOP, REGGAE
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- I WAS AT ALL THE BIG REGGAE
SHOWS WORKING THEM. NO MATTER
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WHAT I DID TO TRY AND SATISFY
MYSELF, NOTHING REALLY WORKED.
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I REMEMBER I USED TO PLAY
AT THIS ONE CLUB IN MANHATTAN.
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WE USED TO PLAY
THERE EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT.
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SO I CAME HOME ONE SATURDAY
MORNING AFTER LEAVING THE CLUB
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AND I TURNED ON THE VIDEO
CHANNEL LIKE I USUALLY DO.
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SO THERE WAS THIS GUY ON THE
VIDEO CHANNEL TALKING AND HE WAS
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DEFINITELY OUT OF PLACE, BUT THE
THINGS THAT HE WERE - THAT HE
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WAS SAYING - JUST
TOTALLY AMAZED ME.
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I NEVER HEARD ANYONE SPEAK ABOUT
THE BIBLE LIKE THIS BEFORE.
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SO I STARTED COMING HOME EARLY
ON SATURDAY MORNINGS JUST TO
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CATCH THIS SHOW. I
FOUND THE THINGS THAT HE WAS
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SAYING ABSOLUTELY AMAZING,
TO THE POINT WHERE IT LITERALLY
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MADE ME STOP AND START TO THINK
ABOUT HOW I WAS LIVING MY LIFE.
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SO I FOUND THAT ALL OF THESE
THINGS THAT I HAD BEEN DOING TO
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TRY AND FIND HAPPINESS WERE
ACTUALLY NOT MAKING ME HAPPY AT
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ALL, BUT WERE REALLY
JUST LEAVING ME EMPTY INSIDE.
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WHEN I STARTED READING THE BIBLE
AND IT STARTED TO MAKE SENSE, I
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STARTED TO MAKE CHANGES.
I EVEN TRIED TO KEEP THE
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SABBATH, WHICH I
FAILED AT MISERABLY.
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SO I WAS ACTUALLY INVITED
BY AMAZING FACTS TO GO TO SEE A
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LIVE SERIES AT ONE OF THE LOCAL
CHURCHES, BUT AFTER GOING THE
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FIRST NIGHT I ENDED UP GOING
ANOTHER NIGHT AND ANOTHER NIGHT.
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I STAYED FOR THE ENTIRE SERIES.
THAT WAS THE DAY I MADE A
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DECISION THAT CHANGED
THE REST OF MY LIFE FOREVER.
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I GAVE MY LIFE TO CHRIST AND
EVERYTHING WAS DIFFERENT AFTER
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THAT. I MADE A
DECISION TO GIVE UP THE
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MUSIC BUSINESS AND STOP
HANGING OUT AT ALL OF THE CLUBS.
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I MADE A DECISION THAT
WAS ETERNAL FOR ME AND FOR MY
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FAMILY. I
STARTED GOING TO CHURCH.
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I GOT A POSITION IN CHURCH WHERE
I WAS ACTUALLY IN CHARGE OF THE
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PERSONAL MINISTRIES DEPARTMENT
AND THE SAME AMAZING FACTS
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STUDIES THAT CHANGED MY LIFE, I
ACTUALLY GOT TO SHARE THEM WITH
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PEOPLE AND SIT DOWN WITH
THEM AND TELL THEM ABOUT JESUS.
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(MUSIC)
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>>THE MESSAGE THIS MORNING
- SOME OF YOU ARE WONDERING -
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KAREN WAS WONDERING ON THE WAY
TO CHURCH. SHE SAID, 'WHAT ARE
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YOU TALKING
ABOUT?' A COLD CONFESSION .
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AND THAT'S BECAUSE, TODAY,
I'M GOING TO BE MAKING A COLD
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CONFESSION. I'M
GOING TO BE SHARING
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SOMETHING VERY PERSONAL WITH
YOU AND MAKING A CONFESSION.
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YOU'VE HEARD IT SAID BEFORE,
'CONFESSION IS GOOD FOR THE
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SOUL, BUT VERY BAD FOR THE
REPUTATION.' AND THAT MAY BE THE
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CASE TODAY, BUT YOUR PASTOR
WAS ADDICTED AND INVOLVED IN
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SUBSTANCE ABUSE
FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
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YEAH, THEY GOT THE SUBSTANCE
THERE ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW.
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(LAUGHTER) NOW YOU THINK I'M
KIDDING. SOME OF THIS MAY BE A
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LITTLE BIT TONGUE IN
CHEEK, BUT THERE IS A POINT.
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BUT I HAD A VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM
WITH AN ADDICTION TO ICE CREAM.
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NOW, WHEN I GET DONE - YOU
DESCRIBE - YOU LET ME KNOW WHAT
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YOU THINK - THAT - IF
IT FITS THE DEFINITION.
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NOW I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN IT
BEGAN, BUT I KNOW IT STARTED A
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LONG TIME AGO AND - MY SUBSTANCE
ABUSE STARTED INNOCENTLY ENOUGH
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- AND I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR
RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING, I AM
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NOT SAYING THAT ICE
CREAM IS A SIN. IS THAT CLEAR?
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BUT IT GOT TO THE
PLACE WHERE IT WAS FOR ME.
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THE BIBLE SAYS IN 1 CORINTHIANS
10:31, "THEREFORE, WHETHER YOU
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EAT OR DRINK, OR WHATEVER YOU
DO, DO ALL TO THE GLORY OF GOD."
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AND I CERTAINLY WAS NOT
DOING IT TO THE GLORY OF GOD.
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NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU
REMEMBER A DAY WHERE YEARS AGO
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THEY HAD AN ICE CREAM MAN
THAT WOULD GO UP AND DOWN THE
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NEIGHBORHOOD AND A BELL WOULD
RING AND A SONG WOULD PLAY -
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I DON'T'
REMEMBER WHAT THE SONG IS.
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ANYONE REMEMBER
THE GOOD HUMOR MAN?
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>>YES. >>DO YOU
HAVE HAPPY MEMORIES?
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ON THOSE HOT SUMMER DAYS AND
YOU'D HEAR THAT MUSIC, IT WAS
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LIKE THE GATES OF
HEAVEN HAD OPENED UP, RIGHT?
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(LAUGHTER) AND YOU'D HEAR THAT
MUSIC PLAYING AND THIS LITTLE
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WHITE TRUCK WOULD COME OUT AND
ALL THE KIDS WOULD CROWD INTO
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CERTAIN SET SPOTS IN THE STREET
AND JUST ABOUT THROW THEMSELVES
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IN FRONT OF THIS VEHICLE.
AND HE WOULD STEP OUT AND
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USUALLY HE WAS FRIENDLY
AND THERE IN THE TRUCK HE
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HAD HIS DRIED ICE - IT WAS
ALWAYS SO AMAZING TO ME - HE
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SHOWED ME A PIECE OF THE DRIED
ICE AND THE FOG BILLOWING OUT
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AND HE'D PULL OUT
THESE EXOTIC TREATS.
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AND I REMEMBER SOME OF MY
FAVORITES WERE - THEY HAD ONE
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CALLED A RAINBOW ROCKET - IT WAS
A DOUBLE POPSICLE THAT HAD TWO
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STICKS THAT WENT UP THROUGH IT.
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YOU COULD BREAK IT IN HALF
AND SHARE IT WITH A FRIEND.
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SO I, OFTEN, WOULD
SPLIT A RAINBOW ROCKET.
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I'M SURE IT WAS FULL OF COLORS
AND CHEMICALS AND THINGS BUT IT
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WAS DELICIOUS. IT WAS
PROBABLY ALL CORN SYRUP.
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THEY HAD ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS
ORANGE WITH VANILLA INSIDE - IT
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WAS AN ORANGE
POPSICLE WITH VANILLA - ANYONE?
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>>CREAMSICLE.
>>THEY STILL MAKE THOSE?
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DO YOU KNOW THEY STILL
HAVE ICE CREAM TRUCKS IN SOME
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NEIGHBORHOODS IN
SACRAMENTO? HAVE YOU HEARD THEM?
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>>YES. >>AND THE
THING THAT'S SO FUNNY
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- I REMEMBER, I WAS AT BONNIE'S
HOUSE NOT LONG AGO AND I
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HEARD ONE COMING AROUND THE
NEIGHBORHOOD AND HE WAS PLAYING
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THE SONG - DOM DOM DOM DOM DOM
DOM DA DA DA DOM DOM DOM DOM DOM
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- WHICH IS LITTLE BROWN JUG .
(LAUGHTER) ANY OF YOU KNOW WHAT
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I'M TALKING ABOUT? LITTLE -
'HA HA HA HEE HEE HEE LITTLE
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BROWN JUG HOW I LOVE THEE' -
WHICH IS ABOUT A JUG OF WHISKEY.
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(LAUGHTER) I THOUGHT, WHAT
KIND OF SONG IS THAT FOR KIDS?
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(LAUGHTER) BECAUSE RIGHT
THERE YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S AN
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ADDICTION ISSUE
CONNECTED WITH THIS.
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SO THEY STILL HAVE DEALERS THAT
GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
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BUT IT GOES WAY BACK AND
I REMEMBER THAT IT WAS SO
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IMPORTANT TO ME, I COULDN'T
UNDERSTAND WHY MY GRANDMOTHER
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WOULD NOT GIVE ME TEN OR
TWENTY-FIVE CENTS - THAT'S ALL
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IT WAS BACK THEN - EVERY DAY.
AND SHE SAID, 'IT'S A TREAT.
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YOU CAN'T HAVE IT EVERY DAY.'
AND I'M ASHAMED TO TELL YOU THAT
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I VIVIDLY REMEMBER STEALING
MONEY FROM MY GRANDMOTHER.
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SHE - THIS IS ONE OF MY EARLIEST
MEMORIES - SHE HUNG HER BLACK
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LEATHER PURSE OVER THE DOORKNOB
OF HER BEDROOM AND INSIDE HER
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PURSE SHE HAD ANOTHER LITTLE
PURSE THAT HAD ONE OF THOSE VERY
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DIFFICULT SNAPS ON IT
THAT YOU HAD TO TWIST.
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IT WAS THE CHANGE PURSE.
AND SHE CAUGHT ME ONE DAY.
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I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY
TIMES I DID IT - MORE THAN ONCE.
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THAT'S WHERE MY
LIFE OF CRIME BEGAN.
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IT WAS FOR ICE CREAM
MONEY. (LAUGHTER) YOU SEE?
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AND, YEAH, MY
GRANDMOTHER WAS TOUGH.
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I REMEMBER STICKING OUT MY
TONGUE ONE TIME AND SHE SAID,
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'BOY, YOU'VE GOT
SUCH A PRETTY TONGUE.
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DO THAT AGAIN.' I STUCK OUT
MY TONGUE AND SHE SLAPPED ME
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UNDERNEATH MY CHIN (LAUGHTER)
AND MADE ME BITE DOWN ON MY
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TONGUE, WHICH REALLY HURT.
AND I NEVER FORGOT THAT AND I
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NEVER STUCK OUT MY
TONGUE AT MY GRANDMOTHER AGAIN.
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BUT MY
GRANDMOTHER WAS PRETTY TOUGH.
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ANYWAYS, SHE CAUGHT ME STEALING
AND THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY
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ABOUT THAT. BUT IT WAS FOR ICE
CREAM MONEY. WELL, I TOOK MY -
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IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, IT WAS
A SMALL OBSESSION AT THAT POINT.
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WHEN I GOT TO NEW YORK CITY -
PARENTS DIVORCED - AND MAYBE I
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WAS LOOKING FOR COMFORT, BUT ONE
OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE DAY WAS
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WHEN I WOULD SNUGGLE UP WITH
MY MOTHER AND MY BROTHER AND WE
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WOULD EAT ICE CREAM AND WATCH
THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF DISNEY OR
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THE ED SULLIVAN SHOW
OR ONE OF THOSE PROGRAMS.
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WE ONLY HAD THREE CHANNELS BACK
THEN, WE HAD THE COAT HANGER ON
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TOP OF THE TV WITH THE TINFOIL,
TO IMPROVE RECEPTION IN OUR
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APARTMENT.
ANYONE REMEMBER? >>YEAH.
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>>AND THEN WHEN I WENT TO LIVE
WITH DAD - THERE WAS A SPELL
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ALSO AT MILITARY SCHOOL.
00:12:54.70\00:12:56.30
EVEN IN MILITARY SCHOOL I
REMEMBER THAT ONCE A WEEK WE'D
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GET ICE CREAM AND I'D LOOK
FORWARD TO THAT DAY AND IT CAME
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WRAPPED UP AND IT WAS NEAPOLITAN
- IT WAS AN ICE CREAM SANDWICH
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WITH CHOCOLATE,
STRAWBERRY, AND VANILLA IN IT.
00:13:08.22\00:13:11.42
AND I WOULD RELISH THAT - I
WOULD BEG AND BRIBE THE OTHER
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CADETS IF I COULD GET THEIR
SANDWICH. I'D GIVE THEM ANY OF
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THE FOOD THEY WANTED ON MY PLATE
IF I COULD GET THEIR ICE CREAM.
00:13:16.26\00:13:20.76
AND THEN I WENT TO LIVE WITH
DAD AND THAT'S WHEN IT REALLY
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STARTED TO GET SERIOUS, IS
IN FLORIDA, WE ACTUALLY HAD - I
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KNOW YOU DON'T THINK OF MIAMI
BEACH HAVING MILKMEN, BUT WE HAD
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A MILKMAN AND I LOOKED IT UP
ONLINE TO SEE - THEY'RE STILL IN
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BUSINESS - THE COMPANY WAS
CALLED MCARTHUR DAIRY - AND THEY
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WOULD BRING THE MILK TO THE DOOR
AND MY STEP-MOTHER WOULD FILL
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OUT A FORM AND - IT WASN'T EVERY
DAY, BUT LIKE EVERY OTHER DAY,
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HE WOULD BRING THE ORDER.
BUT THIS WAS REALLY NEAT: IN
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MIAMI BEACH, THE MILKMEN NOT
ONLY BROUGHT MILK, THEY BROUGHT
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FRESH-SQUEEZED TROPICANA ORANGE
JUICE IN A JAR - A GLASS JAR -
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AND THEY WOULD SQUEEZE IT
THAT DAY AND YOU WOULD GET FRESH
00:14:01.27\00:14:04.34
ORANGE JUICE - AND
THEY BROUGHT ICE CREAM.
00:14:04.37\00:14:08.04
NOW WE ALWAYS KNEW WHEN HE WAS
COMING BECAUSE YOU CAN'T LEAVE
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YOUR ICE CREAM OUT ON
THE PORCH FOR VERY LONG.
00:14:10.15\00:14:13.08
AND, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T - I
WAS LIVING WITH MY DAD AND MY
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STEP-MOTHER AND MY STEP-BROTHER
AND MY BROTHER WAS SICK AND I
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WAS STRUGGLING
DURING THOSE YEARS.
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ONE OF THE TREATS FOR ME WAS I
WOULD TAKE A HALF A PINT OF ICE
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CREAM AND POUR IN TROPICANA
ORANGE JUICE AND MIX IT ALL - IT
00:14:31.47\00:14:35.77
REMINDED ME OF THOSE ORANGE
THINGS THE GOOD HUMOR MAN HAD.
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IT WAS REALLY GOOD.
BUT IT GOT TO WHERE MY
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STEP-MOTHER STARTED SAYING,
'WHO ATE ALL THE ICE CREAM?'
00:14:42.11\00:14:45.48
BECAUSE I WAS EATING
ALL OF THE ICE CREAM.
00:14:45.51\00:14:48.12
I MEAN, I STARTED DOING IT EVERY
DAY AND I REALLY ENJOYED IT.
00:14:48.15\00:14:53.82
IT WAS THE HIGHLIGHT OF MY DAY.
BUT THEN THINGS REALLY TURNED
00:14:53.86\00:14:57.86
FROM BAD TO WORSE BECAUSE SUMMER
CAME AND I NEEDED TO FIND A JOB
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- AND GUESS WHERE I GOT
A JOB? >>ICE CREAM SHOP.
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>>I GOT A JOB
WORKING AT BASKIN ROBBINS.
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KAREN AND I WERE IN
MIAMI BEACH NOT TOO LONG AGO.
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I TOOK HER BY - TRIED TO FIND
WHERE THE OLD ICE CREAM SHOP WAS
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AND I GUESS IT'S NOT
THERE ANYMORE - IN LINCOLN MALL.
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BUT I WORKED AT 31 FLAVORS
AND THE OWNER WAS LEE SCOTT.
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AND I REMEMBER WHEN HE HIRED ME
- I WAS ONLY LIKE 14 - 15 YEARS
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OLD. HE REALLY LIKED ME BECAUSE
I'D BEEN TO MILITARY SCHOOL AND
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I WAS A CLEANING FANATIC AND I
KEPT THE STORE CLEAN AND HE HAD
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THIS WAXING MACHINE AND NONE
OF THE KIDS KNEW HOW TO USE THE
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WAXING MACHINE - YOU
KNOW, THOSE FLOOR BUFFERS?
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IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE
ONE OF THOSE, YOU CAN REALLY GET
00:15:41.67\00:15:42.87
HURT. BUT WE USED
THEM IN MILITARY SCHOOL.
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I SAID, 'OH YEAH, I CAN.' AND SO
I WOULD BUFF AND WAX THE FLOOR
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AND EVERYTHING WAS
JUST SPIC AND SPAN.
00:15:48.11\00:15:49.84
AND I SAID - WHEN HE WAS
HIRING ME I SAID, 'NOW, I'M JUST
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WONDERING, ARE WE
ALLOWED TO EAT THE PRODUCT?'
00:15:53.62\00:15:56.52
(LAUGHTER) HE SAID, 'NO
PROBLEM' - HE SAID, 'YOU CAN EAT
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AS MUCH AS YOU WANT.
YOU'LL GET TIRED OF IT.'
00:16:01.69\00:16:05.36
I NEVER EVEN GOT CLOSE TO
GETTING TIRED OF IT. (LAUGHTER)
00:16:05.39\00:16:10.20
HE HAD - NOW YOU KNOW BASKIN
ROBBINS IS CALLED 31 - NOT
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BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT 31 FLAVORS,
THEY GUARANTEE HAVING 31 FLAVORS
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IN THE STORE AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
00:16:18.97\00:16:21.08
THEY HAVE HUNDREDS OF FLAVORS
AND WE HAD NEW FLAVORS ROTATING
00:16:21.11\00:16:24.48
IN ALL THE TIME. AND
I'M NOT KIDDING YOU, I WOULD
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EAT A PRALINES AND CREAM BANANA
SPLIT FOR LUNCH AND THEN I WOULD
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HAVE A HOT FUDGE
JAMOCHA SUNDAE FOR DINNER.
00:16:32.82\00:16:37.43
AND IT'S AMAZING, WHEN YOU'RE
A TEENAGER, WHAT YOU CAN DO TO
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YOURSELF. AND YOU
FEEL INDESTRUCTIBLE.
00:16:40.96\00:16:45.00
BUT I REALLY WAS -
IT WAS GETTING BAD.
00:16:45.03\00:16:47.27
I MEAN, I ATE A
LOT OF ICE CREAM.
00:16:47.30\00:16:49.84
AND THE PROBLEM WAS, I WAS NOT
ONLY NOW A USER, I WAS A DEALER.
00:16:49.87\00:16:53.44
(LAUGHTER) BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE
COMING IN AND NOW I'M SELLING
00:16:53.48\00:16:58.18
IT. AND
SOMETIMES PEOPLE WOULD COME
00:16:58.21\00:17:02.58
IN FOR ICE CREAM
CAKES FOR A BIRTHDAY PARTY.
00:17:02.62\00:17:07.06
AND I REMEMBER MR. SCOTT, ONE
DAY HE SAID, 'DOUG' - HE SAID,
00:17:07.09\00:17:10.09
'WHY DON'T YOU TRY' - YOU KNOW,
YOU PERSONALIZE THE TOP OF THE
00:17:10.13\00:17:13.33
CAKE AND YOU WRITE ON IT
- AND I WAS NO GOOD AT THAT.
00:17:13.36\00:17:17.13
HAVE ANY OF YOU
EVER SEEN MY HANDWRITING?
00:17:17.17\00:17:19.57
PEOPLE WOULD COME TO PICK UP
THEIR ICE CREAM BIRTHDAY CAKES
00:17:19.60\00:17:21.70
AND THEY'D GO,
'WHAT DOES THAT SAY?'
00:17:21.74\00:17:25.31
'IT SAYS 'HAPPY BIRTHDAY
WILLIAM' - CAN'T YOU READ IT?'
00:17:25.34\00:17:29.91
YOU HAVE TO SQUEEZE THE
STUFF OUT OF A TUBE WHILE YOU'RE
00:17:29.94\00:17:32.51
WRITING - I
WASN'T ANY GOOD AT THAT.
00:17:32.55\00:17:34.42
BUT I WORKED THERE
UNTIL I RAN AWAY FROM HOME.
00:17:34.45\00:17:37.45
AND THEN IT WAS HIT AND MISS
ON THE ROAD FOR A LITTLE WHILE -
00:17:37.49\00:17:41.66
WITH ICE CREAM, BUT EVEN WHEN I
MOVED UP INTO THE MOUNTAINS IN A
00:17:41.69\00:17:46.46
CAVE - NO REFRIGERATION,
OBVIOUSLY - VERY LONG WAY TO
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TOWN - GRUELING HIKE
- BUT IT WAS THE DESERT.
00:17:52.93\00:17:55.94
BACK THEN THEY HAD
THRIFTY'S DRUGSTORES EVERYWHERE.
00:17:55.97\00:18:00.74
I DON'T SEE - THRIFTY'S
DRUGSTORE IS EVIDENTLY OUT OF
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BUSINESS. I DON'T
KNOW IF YOU CAN STILL
00:18:02.74\00:18:04.61
GET THRIFTY'S ICE CREAM, BUT
IN ALL THEIR DRUG STORES THEY
00:18:04.65\00:18:07.18
HAD AN ICE CREAM
COUNTER. DO YOU REMEMBER?
00:18:07.22\00:18:10.79
I'M NOT KIDDING. DO
ANY OF YOU REMEMBER WHEN
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IT WAS A NICKEL A
SCOOP? >>AMEN! (LAUGHTER)
00:18:13.79\00:18:17.26
>>AND YOU COULD GET A
TRIPLE SCOOP FOR FIFTEEN CENTS.
00:18:17.29\00:18:21.73
GO TRY AND FIND THAT. BUT
WHEN YOU'RE LIVING IN A CAVE
00:18:21.76\00:18:25.97
IN A DESERT AND YOU'VE GOT NO
REFRIGERATION, THE HIGHLIGHT FOR
00:18:26.00\00:18:28.90
ME WAS TO GO PANHANDLE AND SEE
IF I COULD GET FIFTEEN CENTS.
00:18:28.94\00:18:34.54
I WOULD BEG ON THE STREET
AND SAY, 'COULD I PLEASE HAVE
00:18:34.58\00:18:36.44
FIFTEEN CENTS FOR
SOMETHING TO EAT?'
00:18:36.48\00:18:39.55
I DIDN'T TELL THEM WHAT I WAS
GOING TO EAT, BUT IT'S TRUE, I
00:18:39.58\00:18:44.22
WOULD SPEND MY LAST
FIFTEEN CENTS ON ICE CREAM.
00:18:44.25\00:18:49.89
AND I REMEMBER - I
WASN'T THE ONLY ONE.
00:18:49.92\00:18:52.16
A LOT OF THE STREET
PEOPLE - IT WAS A BIG DEAL.
00:18:52.19\00:18:54.50
THERE WERE OTHERS THAT
WERE LIVING IN THE DESERT.
00:18:54.56\00:18:56.20
MOST OF THEM LIVED
IN THE FIRST VALLEY.
00:18:56.23\00:18:57.97
I LIVED WAY BACK IN THE CANYON.
00:18:58.00\00:19:00.47
AND I REMEMBER, I WAS HANGING
OUT ON THE STREET ONE DAY WITH
00:19:00.50\00:19:03.27
MY FRIENDS AND SOME KID HAD
WALKED OUT OF THRIFTY'S WITH A
00:19:03.30\00:19:09.51
TRIPLE SCOOP OF ICE CREAM AND HE
WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION AND THE
00:19:09.54\00:19:13.98
ICE CREAM GUY AT THE COUNTER -
YOU KNOW, AT THRIFTY'S, WHEN YOU
00:19:14.02\00:19:16.92
GOT YOUR ICE CREAM, THE SAME GUY
THAT WORKED THE CASH REGISTER,
00:19:16.95\00:19:19.29
HE WORKED THE COUNTER.
AND HE DIDN'T ALWAYS KNOW WHAT
00:19:19.32\00:19:21.52
TO DO WITH ICE CREAM AND SO HE
DIDN'T PRESS - THAT FIRST SCOOP
00:19:21.56\00:19:24.56
HAS TO GET PRESSED DOWN INTO THE
CONE OR IT CAN BECOME DETACHED.
00:19:24.59\00:19:28.20
AND HE HAD A TRIPLE SCOOP
AND THIS KID WALKED OUT ON THE
00:19:28.23\00:19:30.80
STREET AND HE TURNED AND
THE THING FELL OFF THE CONE.
00:19:30.83\00:19:34.50
BUT IT LANDED - NOT FLAT -
BUT IT LANDED STILL INTACT WITH
00:19:34.54\00:19:38.14
THREE SCOOPS - I KIND OF
REPRODUCED THAT - THAT'S A
00:19:38.17\00:19:41.88
LITTLE BIT OF PHOTOSHOP
(LAUGHTER) BUT IT LOOKED LIKE
00:19:41.91\00:19:44.08
THAT. IT LANDED -
THREE SCOOPS - LIKE
00:19:44.11\00:19:46.61
THE TOWER OF PISA,
STICKING STRAIGHT UP.
00:19:46.65\00:19:49.08
AND THE KID BEGAN TO CRY AND THE
PARENTS, 'OH, COME ON IN, WE'LL
00:19:49.12\00:19:52.02
GET YOU ANOTHER ONE.'
AND THEY WALKED IN THE STORE.
00:19:52.05\00:19:54.56
I'M STANDING THERE WITH MY
FRIENDS (LAUGHTER) AND WE'RE
00:19:54.59\00:19:58.29
LOOKING AT THAT AND I SAID, 'YOU
KNOW, ONLY PART OF THAT HIT THE
00:19:58.33\00:20:01.93
GROUND. KID DIDN'T
EVEN LICK IT YET AND
00:20:01.96\00:20:04.17
IF HE DID LICK IT, THE
PART HE LICKED IS THE PART
00:20:04.20\00:20:06.37
ON THE GROUND. THE
OTHER STUFF IS STILL GOOD.'
00:20:06.40\00:20:09.20
AND WHILE WE WERE PROCESSING
THAT, BEFORE I COULD ACT ON MY
00:20:09.24\00:20:12.71
THOUGHT, MY FRIEND RICHIE GOT
DOWN ON ALL FOURS AND HE BEGAN
00:20:12.74\00:20:16.58
TO EAT THE ICE CREAM
OFF THE STREET LIKE THAT.
00:20:16.61\00:20:22.55
REALLY, I DIDN'T DO IT. BUT
I THOUGHT ABOUT IT BECAUSE I
00:20:22.58\00:20:25.05
THOUGHT, 'THAT'S SOME PERFECTLY
GOOD ICE CREAM THAT'S GOING TO
00:20:25.09\00:20:27.69
WASTE RIGHT NOW.' AND I WAS MAD
THAT RICHIE DID IT FIRST BECAUSE
00:20:27.72\00:20:34.30
I - I REALLY HAD IT PRETTY
BAD. AND I WOULDN'T JUST EAT ONE
00:20:34.30\00:20:39.27
TRIPLE THING OF ICE CREAM, I
WOULD EAT ONE WHEN I ARRIVED TO
00:20:39.30\00:20:42.17
TOWN AND THEN LATER IN
THE DAY I'D GET ANOTHER ONE
00:20:42.20\00:20:44.24
BEFORE I WENT UP THE HILL.
AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO LAST ME.
00:20:44.27\00:20:47.81
YOU KNOW, I USED TO WONDER
WHY WAS IT SO IMPORTANT TO ME.
00:20:47.84\00:20:52.21
AND I LATER FOUND OUT THERE
WAS A STUDY - BELIEVE IT OR NOT
00:20:52.25\00:20:56.48
THERE'S MEDICAL
RESEARCH - JOURNAL OF CLINICAL
00:20:56.52\00:20:59.69
INVESTIGATION - THIS
IS A STUDY DONE IN 2011.
00:20:59.72\00:21:03.79
A TEAM OF RESEARCHERS LED BY
LUKAS VAN OUDENHOVE, UNIVERSITY
00:21:03.83\00:21:08.33
OF BELGIUM. THEY
WERE PUBLISHING IMAGES OF
00:21:08.36\00:21:11.20
BRAIN ACTIVITY DURING TIMES
OF SADNESS. AND THEY HAD TWELVE
00:21:11.23\00:21:16.24
VOLUNTEERS THAT HAD THEIR BRAINS
SCANNED WITH AN MRI AND ALSO
00:21:16.27\00:21:21.24
AGREED TO HAVE A FEEDING
TUBE PUT INTO THEIR STOMACH.
00:21:21.28\00:21:25.38
THEN THEY WERE SHOWN IMAGES AND
PLAYED SOME NEUTRAL OR SAD MUSIC
00:21:25.41\00:21:30.62
AND SHOWN NEUTRAL OR SAD IMAGES
AND THEN THEY WOULD RATE HOW
00:21:30.65\00:21:33.66
THEY FELT ON A
SCALE OF ONE TO NINE.
00:21:33.69\00:21:35.79
AND WHEN THEY WERE FEELING SAD
THEY WOULD THEN INJECT IN THEIR
00:21:35.82\00:21:38.69
STOMACHS A SOLUTION - SOME OF
THEM GOT A SALT SOLUTION - THEY
00:21:38.73\00:21:41.80
DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS
GOING IN THEIR STOMACH.
00:21:41.83\00:21:44.33
SOME OF THEM WOULD GET A FAT
SOLUTION THAT WOULD BE SIMILAR
00:21:44.37\00:21:47.30
TO WHAT YOU WOULD
FIND IN ICE CREAM.
00:21:47.34\00:21:49.94
AND THEN THEY WOULD EVALUATE
THEM AFTERWARD AND THEY FOUND
00:21:49.97\00:21:52.87
OUT, IN ALMOST EVERY CASE, THOSE
WHO WERE SAD, AFTER BEING GIVEN
00:21:52.91\00:21:56.71
THE FATTY SOLUTION, IT
SAYS THE EFFECT WAS SIGNIFICANT.
00:21:56.75\00:22:01.15
IN A PHARMACOLOGICAL SENSE,
THE FATTY SOLUTION REDUCED THE
00:22:01.18\00:22:05.35
INTENSITY OF SAD EMOTIONS BY
ALMOST HALF, WHICH IS ABOUT AS
00:22:05.39\00:22:09.32
MUCH AS ANY PRESCRIPTION
ANTIDEPRESSANT CAN ACHIEVE.
00:22:09.36\00:22:14.10
AND SO YOU WERE WONDERING
WHY YOU THOUGHT ICE CREAM WAS
00:22:14.10\00:22:16.43
COMFORT FOOD. THEY'VE
FINALLY DONE RESEARCH TO
00:22:16.46\00:22:19.57
SAY THAT IT ACTUALLY DOES
WORK AS AN ANTIDEPRESSANT.
00:22:19.60\00:22:24.11
SO I GUESS YOU COULD SAY I
WAS ADDICTED TO ANTIDEPRESSANTS,
00:22:24.14\00:22:28.34
BUT IT CAME IN THE
FORM OF HAAGAN DAZS.
00:22:28.38\00:22:30.78
(LAUGHTER) AND IT
WAS PRETTY SERIOUS.
00:22:30.81\00:22:34.98
NOW YOU THINK I JEST. YOU
KNOW, THE BIBLE SAYS THAT A
00:22:35.02\00:22:40.79
LITTLE BIT OF CERTAIN THINGS IS
OKAY, BUT SOMETHING CAN BE TAKEN
00:22:40.82\00:22:45.33
TO AN EXTREME AND IT BECOMES SIN
ECCLESIASTES 10:17, "BLESSED ARE
00:22:45.36\00:22:51.97
YOU O LAND, WHEN YOUR KING
IS A CHILD, AND YOUR PRINCES
00:22:52.00\00:22:55.27
FEAST...AT THE PROPER
TIME - FOR STRENGTH AND NOT FOR
00:22:55.30\00:22:58.71
DRUNKENNESS!" I MEAN,
IT WAS TO EXCESS WITH ME.
00:22:58.74\00:23:03.41
AND EVEN WHEN I MOVED OUT OF THE
CAVE - I LIVED FOR AWHILE - I
00:23:03.45\00:23:06.48
HAD A MEAT BUSINESS -
LIVED IN PALM SPRINGS.
00:23:06.51\00:23:08.75
I AM NOT KIDDING YOU, I WOULD
EAT ICE CREAM EVERY NIGHT AND I
00:23:08.78\00:23:13.39
WOULD, MORE THAN
ONCE, EAT A HALF A QUART.
00:23:13.42\00:23:17.19
ONCE I ATE A WHOLE QUART. I
STAYED UP LATE AND I LISTENED
00:23:17.23\00:23:21.36
TO CAL WORTHINGTON COMMERCIALS
ON A LITTLE BLACK AND WHITE TV.
00:23:21.40\00:23:25.27
ANY OF YOU KNOW WHO THAT WAS?
CAL WORTHINGTON? GO SEE CAL?
00:23:25.30\00:23:30.11
NOW THAT IS DEPRESSING, ISN'T
IT? BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE
00:23:30.14\00:23:33.68
LIKE 19 - 20 YEARS OLD, IT'S
AMAZING HOW MUCH YOU CAN EAT.
00:23:33.71\00:23:37.81
KAREN AND I CAN'T BELIEVE IT -
NOW THAT BOTH THE BOYS ARE GONE
00:23:37.85\00:23:40.35
TO COLLEGE, WE OPEN THE
REFRIGERATOR, THERE'S STILL FOOD
00:23:40.38\00:23:44.22
(LAUGHTER) IN THE
REFRIGERATOR. IT'S AMAZING.
00:23:44.25\00:23:49.69
BUT, I MEAN, I REALLY
WAS - I HAD A PROBLEM.
00:23:49.72\00:23:56.63
AND THEN EVEN AFTER I MOVED
INTO THE HILLS IN COVELO, I GOT
00:23:56.67\00:24:00.07
BAPTIZED - THIS IS WHEN IT, I
THINK, GOT REALLY SERIOUS - YOU
00:24:00.10\00:24:06.27
KNOW, WHEN YOU GIVE UP YOUR
ADDICTIONS AND YOU'VE ONLY GOT
00:24:06.31\00:24:08.74
A FEW LEFT, YOU OVERCOMPENSATE.
AND AS I GAVE UP DRUGS AND THE
00:24:08.78\00:24:14.18
SMOKING AND THE DRINKING, ALL
I HAD LEFT WAS THE ICE CREAM.
00:24:14.22\00:24:19.89
THEN YOU REALLY GO OVERBOARD.
AND I REMEMBER LIVING UP IN
00:24:19.92\00:24:25.23
COVELO, I WOULD QUOTE THE BIBLE
AND I'D SAY, 'GOD IS TAKING US
00:24:25.26\00:24:31.10
TO A LAND FLOWING
WITH MILK AND HONEY.
00:24:31.13\00:24:34.20
GOD BELIEVES IN ICE
CREAM. THIS IS HEAVENLY FOOD.'
00:24:34.24\00:24:39.64
I MEAN, WHY WOULD HE SAY THAT
HE'S GOING TO TAKE THEM TO A
00:24:39.67\00:24:41.74
LAND OF MILK AND HONEY?
AND THEN I WENT TO THE STORE
00:24:41.78\00:24:44.21
AND I FOUND HAAGAN
DAZS HONEY VANILLA.
00:24:44.25\00:24:46.72
I SAID, 'PRAISE THE LORD.'
(LAUGHTER) 'THIS IS BIBLICAL.'
00:24:46.75\00:24:50.69
(LAUGHTER) AND I
HAD SCRIPTURE FOR IT.
00:24:50.72\00:24:55.96
BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A VERSE
THAT SAYS IF YOU FOUND HONEY -
00:24:55.99\00:24:59.33
PROVERBS 25:16 -
"HAVE YOU FOUND HONEY?
00:24:59.36\00:25:01.83
EAT ONLY AS MUCH AS YOU NEED,
LEST YOU BE FILLED WITH IT AND
00:25:01.86\00:25:07.24
VOMIT." SOME THINGS
THAT ARE GOOD - THAT
00:25:07.27\00:25:11.21
ARE MEANT TO BE A TREAT
- THAT GOD WOULD BLESS, YOU
00:25:11.24\00:25:13.58
CAN DO TO EXCESS. NOW
THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT
00:25:13.61\00:25:17.25
PRINCIPLE OF WHAT I'M
SHARING WITH YOU TODAY.
00:25:17.28\00:25:19.75
AND I KNOW YOU'RE LAUGHING -
AND I'M MEANING FOR YOU TO - AND
00:25:19.78\00:25:22.38
SOME OF WHAT I'M SAYING IS
TONGUE IN CHEEK, BUT I'M SHARING
00:25:22.42\00:25:25.02
THIS ODYSSEY WITH YOU
BECAUSE IT RELATES TO REAL LIFE.
00:25:25.05\00:25:28.39
WHAT I'M SHARING
WITH YOU IS TRUE.
00:25:28.42\00:25:29.66
I'M NOT MAKING THIS
UP. I MEAN, I WAS ADDICTED.
00:25:29.69\00:25:34.20
FOR YEARS - I LOOK BACK AND
IT'S JUST OVER THE - MY LIFE WAS
00:25:34.23\00:25:37.70
DEFINED - I HAD MY TONSILS TAKEN
OUT WHEN I WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD.
00:25:37.73\00:25:41.17
MY MOTHER JUST COULDN'T FIGURE
- THOUGHT I HAD BAD TONSILS - I
00:25:41.20\00:25:43.44
WAS JUST EATING SO MUCH
DAIRY I COULDN'T BREATHE.
00:25:43.47\00:25:47.21
DIDN'T REALIZE I
WAS ALLERGIC TO IT.
00:25:47.24\00:25:50.41
SO MOVED UP IN THE HILLS AND
EVEN IN COVELO, I WOULD DRIVE
00:25:50.45\00:25:58.52
HALF AN HOUR ROUND TRIP TO TOWN
- NO, ONE HOUR ROUND TRIP - ONE
00:25:58.55\00:26:02.69
HOUR - HALF AN HOUR EACH WAY
- THANK YOU, DEAR - I'VE GOT A
00:26:02.72\00:26:05.16
WITNESS HERE -
TO GET MY ICE CREAM.
00:26:05.19\00:26:10.73
AND I'M ASHAMED TO SAY THAT
I THINK I ALSO WAS INFLUENCING
00:26:10.77\00:26:15.30
OTHERS. EVEN WHEN
KAREN AND I BEGAN TO
00:26:15.34\00:26:17.94
DATE I'D SAY, 'YOU WANT
TO SPLIT SOME ICE CREAM?'
00:26:17.97\00:26:23.48
(LAUGHTER) AND I'D GET VANILLA
ALMOND AND I'D EAT SWISS VANILLA
00:26:23.51\00:26:31.29
- SWISS ALMOND - YEAH, I'D
EAT THE ICE CREAM, SHE'D EAT THE
00:26:31.32\00:26:33.05
CHOCOLATE-COVERED ALMONDS.
I REMEMBER JOHN LOMACANG WAS
00:26:33.09\00:26:37.29
REALLY WEIRD - YOU KNOW,
WE'D BE ON THE ROAD DOING
00:26:37.33\00:26:39.09
EVANGELISTIC
MEETINGS. 'HOW ABOUT SOME
00:26:39.13\00:26:40.60
ICE CREAM, JOHN?' I
WAS A BAD INFLUENCE.
00:26:40.63\00:26:44.50
SO WE'D GO GET A PINT OF HAAGAN
DAZS AND WE'D SIT DOWN AND
00:26:44.53\00:26:48.80
USUALLY WE WERE IN A HOTEL
BECAUSE WE WERE DOING MEETINGS
00:26:48.84\00:26:50.37
AND I'D SAY, 'DON'T
YOU WANT SOME OF THIS?'
00:26:50.41\00:26:53.04
'YEAH, JUST NOT
YET. YEAH, I WANT SOME.
00:26:53.07\00:26:54.24
SAVE ME SOME.' AND SO I'D -
I'D - 'HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT?'
00:26:54.28\00:26:57.48
'WELL, JUST, YOU
KNOW, ABOUT HALF.
00:26:57.51\00:26:58.75
JUST SAVE ME SOME.' SO I'D EAT
MINE AND SAY, 'DON'T YOU' - I'D
00:26:58.78\00:27:01.65
SET IT DOWN. HE
WAITED UNTIL IT MELTED.
00:27:01.68\00:27:04.59
HE LIKED IT
MELTED, THEN HE'D EAT IT.
00:27:04.62\00:27:08.56
I HAD ANOTHER FRIEND, WHEN I'D
BE ON THE ROAD, WE'D TAKE THE
00:27:08.59\00:27:10.89
HAAGAN DAZS THING AND WE'D
TAKE A KNIFE AND HE'D SAY, 'I'LL
00:27:10.93\00:27:14.83
SPLIT IT WITH YOU.' AND
WE'D JUST CUT IT IN HALF AND
00:27:14.83\00:27:18.07
SOMEONE WOULD EAT OUT
OF ONE HALF AND SOMEONE
00:27:18.10\00:27:19.93
WOULD EAT OUT OF THE OTHER.
BUT ANY OF MY FRIENDS THAT WERE
00:27:19.97\00:27:23.10
CLOSE TO ME KNOW, AT THE END
OF THE DAY, I WENT ON A HUNT.
00:27:23.14\00:27:28.74
I WENT ON A SAFARI LOOKING FOR
ICE CREAM - AND I'D GO A LONG
00:27:28.78\00:27:33.05
WAY BECAUSE I - TO ME
IT REPRESENTED COMFORT OR
00:27:33.08\00:27:40.16
SOMETHING, I DON'T
KNOW. I COULDN'T STOP.
00:27:40.19\00:27:42.69
BY THE WAY, IN SPITE OF THAT
VERSE THAT SAYS HE'S BRINGING US
00:27:42.72\00:27:45.56
TO A LAND FLOWING WITH MILK
AND HONEY, THAT DOESN'T MEAN GOD
00:27:45.59\00:27:47.93
WANTED US TO MIX IT ALL
TOGETHER AND EAT IT AT ONCE.
00:27:47.96\00:27:51.13
IN THE BOOK COUNSELS ON DIET AND
FOODS IT SAYS, "SOME USE MILK
00:27:51.17\00:27:55.17
AND A LARGE AMOUNT OF SUGAR
ON THEIR MUSH" - THEIR CEREAL OR
00:27:55.20\00:27:57.84
OATMEAL - "THINKING THAT THEY'RE
CARRYING OUT HEALTH REFORM, BUT
00:27:57.87\00:28:01.08
THE SUGAR AND THE MILK COMBINED
ARE LIABLE TO CAUSE FERMENTATION
00:28:01.11\00:28:04.21
IN THE STOMACH
AND THUS HARMFUL."
00:28:04.25\00:28:07.78
WHICH MEANS I PROBABLY WENT TO
BED DRUNK A LOT FROM ICE CREAM.
00:28:07.82\00:28:14.46
AND THEN I REALIZED,
FINALLY, IT HAD GONE TOO FAR.
00:28:14.49\00:28:20.03
NOW, I'M EMBARRASSED TO TELL YOU
THIS, BUT WHEN I TRAVELED AND I
00:28:20.06\00:28:28.34
STAYED AT A HOTEL, ONE OF THE
FIRST THINGS I'D DO IS I'D FIND
00:28:28.37\00:28:31.47
OUT 'WHERE'S A 7-11?'
BECAUSE 7-11 CARRIES HAAGAN
00:28:31.51\00:28:35.61
DAZS OR BEN AND JERRY'S.
BEN AND JERRY'S WAS NOT AS GOOD,
00:28:35.64\00:28:38.71
BUT - I ALWAYS FELT LIKE I WAS
SUPPORTING A COUPLE OF DRUGGIES
00:28:38.75\00:28:41.68
WITH BEN AND JERRY'S, YOU
KNOW? THEY HAD ICE CREAM CALLED
00:28:41.72\00:28:44.75
'CHERRY GARCIA' NAMED
AFTER THE - YEAH, ANYWAY.
00:28:44.79\00:28:51.36
SO I'D GO TO A 7-11 - I'D LOOK
FOR ONE - AND ONE TIME WHEN I
00:28:51.39\00:28:58.10
WAS GOING TO A HOTEL TO DO A
MEETING AND BONNIE SAID, 'WELL,
00:28:58.13\00:29:02.47
THEY'VE GOT A SHUTTLE THAT GOES
TO THE AIRPORT.' I SAID, 'WELL,
00:29:02.50\00:29:05.44
I'M GOING TO NEED A RENTAL CAR.'
'WELL, YOU WON'T NEED IT.' I
00:29:05.47\00:29:09.18
SAID, 'WELL, I MIGHT NEED
TO GET SOMETHING TO EAT AND' -
00:29:09.21\00:29:12.35
YOU KNOW WHAT I WAS THINKING?
HOTEL WAS TOO FAR AWAY FROM ICE
00:29:12.38\00:29:16.15
CREAM - I WAS AT THIS CONFERENCE
CENTER AND I NEEDED A CAR
00:29:16.18\00:29:22.02
SO I COULD GET ICE CREAM.
AND THEN, WHEN I REALIZED THAT
00:29:22.06\00:29:26.39
HERE, I HAD RENTED A CAR AND
AMAZING FACTS SUPPORTERS WERE
00:29:26.43\00:29:29.26
PAYING FOR ME TO HAVE A RENTAL
CAR SO I COULD GET ICE CREAM.
00:29:29.30\00:29:32.07
I FELT GUILTY. AND SO
I REFUNDED THE MONEY AND
00:29:32.10\00:29:34.60
IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT ICE
CREAM COST ME $35.00 A PINT.
00:29:34.64\00:29:38.77
(LAUGHTER) I'M NOT
KIDDING. IT WAS THAT BAD.
00:29:38.81\00:29:45.18
ONLY ONCE OR TWICE DID I ORDER
ROOM SERVICE - $8.00 FOR ICE
00:29:45.21\00:29:50.35
CREAM AND THEN YOU WANT TO
TIP THE PERSON WHO BRINGS IT.
00:29:50.39\00:29:53.29
BECAUSE I'D TELL THEM, 'PLEASE
HURRY' - BECAUSE THEY'D BRING IT
00:29:53.32\00:29:55.59
TO YOU ALL MELTED
AND THEN IT'S NO GOOD.
00:29:55.62\00:29:59.39
AND I REALIZED THIS IS JUST
STARTING TO - THIS HAS GONE TOO
00:29:59.43\00:30:02.40
FAR. I THOUGHT,
'I'VE GOT A PROBLEM.'
00:30:02.43\00:30:05.20
AND SO I STARTED
PRAYING ABOUT IT.
00:30:05.23\00:30:07.44
I SAID, 'LORD, I'VE GOT
TO STOP EATING ICE CREAM.
00:30:07.47\00:30:10.31
CERTAINLY, ANYTHING THAT IS
PREOCCUPYING MY DAY - MY FATHER
00:30:10.34\00:30:14.78
WAS AN ALCOHOLIC AND I
THINK I'VE GOT THAT NATURE.
00:30:14.81\00:30:18.71
MY FATHER WOULD PLAN
HIS DAY AROUND ALCOHOL.
00:30:18.75\00:30:23.35
WHEN HE MADE LUNCH APPOINTMENTS,
HE WOULDN'T JUST TAKE A PERSON
00:30:23.39\00:30:26.55
TO A RESTAURANT BECAUSE HE LIKED
THE FOOD; THE RESTAURANT HAD TO,
00:30:26.59\00:30:30.29
FIRST AND
FOREMOST, HAVE ALCOHOL.
00:30:30.33\00:30:33.03
THEN HE'D FIGURE
OUT WHAT ELSE THEY HAD.
00:30:33.06\00:30:35.33
AND THEN, AFTER
WORK, HE'D STOP AT THE BAR.
00:30:35.36\00:30:37.93
AND IF HE WENT ON VACATION IT
HAD TO BE SOMEWHERE WHERE THERE
00:30:37.97\00:30:40.70
WAS A BAR. AND IF HE
WENT ON A FISHING TRIP
00:30:40.74\00:30:43.37
OR IF HE WENT RACING OR WHATEVER
HE DID, THERE WAS ALWAYS
00:30:43.41\00:30:45.61
THE ICE CHEST WITH ALCOHOL.
HIS WHOLE LIFE THAT WAS JUST -
00:30:45.64\00:30:49.38
HAD TO BE THERE IN THE
PICTURE. AND I WAS REALIZING ICE
00:30:49.41\00:30:51.25
CREAM WAS DOING THAT TO
ME. I'D GET ON TV IN FRONT OF
00:30:51.28\00:30:55.82
EVERYBODY AND PREACH ABOUT THE
HEALTH MESSAGE, DO A BACK HAND
00:30:55.85\00:30:58.09
SPRING AND THEN GO HOME
AND EAT A PINT OF HAAGAN DAZS.
00:30:58.12\00:31:02.06
YES, SOMETIMES
I'D EAT A WHOLE PINT.
00:31:02.09\00:31:05.23
THE AVERAGE AMERICAN EATS
42 PINTS OF ICE CREAM A YEAR.
00:31:05.26\00:31:10.90
I WAS EATING ABOUT
120. I'M NOT EXAGGERATING.
00:31:10.93\00:31:16.57
AND THEN I'D GO TO THE DOCTOR
AND HE'D SAY, 'DOUG, CHOLESTEROL
00:31:16.60\00:31:19.07
LOOKS GOOD. BLOOD
PRESSURE OKAY.' I'D SAY,
00:31:19.11\00:31:22.58
'NOT BOTHERING ME.' AND I
HAD ALL THESE RATIONALIZATIONS.
00:31:22.61\00:31:27.98
BUT I KNEW I WAS
ADDICTED. HOW DO YOU KNOW?
00:31:28.02\00:31:31.75
BECAUSE I COULDN'T STOP.
I'D SPEND MY LAST FIFTEEN
00:31:31.79\00:31:35.89
CENTS ON ICE CREAM. I
COULD TELL YOU MORE STORIES,
00:31:35.92\00:31:41.50
BUT I THINK YOU GET THE PICTURE.
FINALLY I BECAME CONVINCED,
00:31:41.53\00:31:44.87
'ALRIGHT, I'VE GOT TO DO
SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.' THEN I
00:31:44.90\00:31:46.80
WENT THROUGH A COUPLE OF
YEARS OF A REAL STRUGGLE.
00:31:46.84\00:31:50.04
I THINK I WENT THROUGH ALL
OF THE THROES AND THE TWISTS AND
00:31:50.07\00:31:52.67
THE TURNS OF ALL
KINDS OF ADDICTIONS.
00:31:52.71\00:31:54.94
I'D STOP - I'D GO A DAY OR TWO
AND FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT IT
00:31:54.98\00:31:57.18
AND THEN I'D SAY,
'I'M UNDER CONTROL NOW.
00:31:57.21\00:31:59.95
I THINK I CAN JUST HAVE A LITTLE
BIT.' AND I GOT TO THE POINT
00:32:00.05\00:32:02.88
WHERE, INSTEAD OF EATING A PINT
A DAY, I GOT TO WHERE IT WAS
00:32:02.92\00:32:07.26
HALF A PINT A DAY. AND
THEN I GOT DOWN TO A THIRD
00:32:07.29\00:32:11.73
- ONE LITTLE PINT OF HAAGAN DAZS
WOULD LAST ME THREE DAYS - AND
00:32:11.76\00:32:16.30
I FELT LIKE I WAS
DOING PRETTY GOOD.
00:32:16.33\00:32:18.73
THAT WENT ON FOR
A COUPLE OF YEARS.
00:32:18.77\00:32:21.10
KAREN'S HERE - SHE'S
NOT DISAGREEING WITH ME.
00:32:21.14\00:32:25.51
BONNIE WOULD INVITE ME
OVER AND OFFER DESSERT.
00:32:25.54\00:32:28.38
SHE'D SAY, 'WE'VE GOT SOME ICE
CREAM.' I'D SAY, 'NO, THANKS.'
00:32:28.41\00:32:31.11
BECAUSE I HAD GOOD
STUFF AT HOME. (LAUGHTER)
00:32:31.15\00:32:34.78
SO I COULD TURN IT DOWN AS LONG
AS I KNEW I COULD HAVE IT BEFORE
00:32:34.82\00:32:37.79
I WENT TO BED. AND,
FOR SOME REASON, EVEN IF I
00:32:37.82\00:32:44.99
ATE LATE AND I ATE WAY TOO
MUCH, IT ALWAYS SEEMED I HAD
00:32:45.03\00:32:49.56
ROOM FOR ICE CREAM.
IF I DIDN'T HAVE IT I
00:32:49.60\00:32:53.74
WAS LIKE, INCOMPLETE.
REALLY - I DON'T KNOW WHY.
00:32:53.77\00:32:59.14
AND THEN I GOT WHERE I'D GO
A DAY OR TWO WITHOUT EATING ICE
00:32:59.17\00:33:01.91
CREAM. I'D GO
TO THE MARKET AND -
00:33:01.94\00:33:07.12
BOY, IT WOULD BE A STRUGGLE.
I'D SAY, 'KAREN, I'VE GOT TO GO
00:33:07.15\00:33:10.82
GET SOME CHIPS.' OR - SHE KNOWS
- THAT'S THE OTHER THING I'M
00:33:10.85\00:33:14.52
ADDICTED TO, BUT THAT'S
UNDER CONTROL - CORN CHIPS -
00:33:14.56\00:33:17.73
AND SALSA. I EAT A
LOT OF CHIPS AND SALSA.
00:33:17.76\00:33:19.56
AND SO, I'D GO GET THE CHIPS
AND THEN I'D GO UP AND DOWN THE
00:33:19.59\00:33:22.63
AISLE BY THE FROZEN
SECTION AND LOOK AT IT.
00:33:22.66\00:33:26.03
(LAUGHTER) AND I'D
- I'D SEE IT ON SALE.
00:33:26.07\00:33:32.17
NORMALLY IT WAS ALMOST THREE
DOLLARS OR MORE AND IT WOULD BE
00:33:32.21\00:33:34.14
TWO FOR FIVE DOLLARS. I'D
GO, 'LORD, IT MUST BE YOUR
00:33:34.18\00:33:36.81
WILL TODAY.' (LAUGHTER) 'BECAUSE
IT'S ON SALE.' AND THEN I
00:33:36.85\00:33:43.32
FIGURED I'M NOT GOING TO BUY
IT ANYMORE UNLESS IT'S ON SALE.
00:33:43.35\00:33:47.02
THAT'S HOW I GRAPPLED WITH MY
GUILT. BUT WHEN I BOUGHT IT ON
00:33:47.06\00:33:49.66
SALE, I BOUGHT ENOUGH TO
LAST UNTIL THE NEXT SALE.
00:33:49.69\00:33:53.43
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHAT MADE
THINGS DIFFICULT IS ONE OF THE
00:33:53.46\00:33:57.80
MEMBERS OF OUR CHURCH, WHO MIGHT
BE HERE TODAY, I DON'T WANT TO
00:33:57.83\00:34:00.60
POINT HER OUT, WORKED AT
THE SUPERMARKET WHERE I SHOPPED.
00:34:00.64\00:34:05.24
DON'T YOU LOVE IT WHEN THE
PERSON WHO'S CHECKING YOU OUT AT
00:34:05.27\00:34:09.11
THE MARKET LOOKS AT WHAT'S
IN YOUR SHOPPING CART AND SAYS
00:34:09.14\00:34:11.51
STUFF LIKE, 'OH, SOMEBODY'S GOT
A SWEET TOOTH.' THEY COMMENT ON
00:34:11.55\00:34:16.82
WHAT YOU'RE BUYING.
(LAUGHTER) AND SHE NOTICED
00:34:16.85\00:34:22.39
SEVERAL TIMES - I
WOULD BE SHOWING UP 10:00 AT
00:34:22.42\00:34:26.56
NIGHT JUST FOR ICE CREAM.
AND THEN I'D GO TO THE STORE AND
00:34:26.59\00:34:33.90
I'D LOOK FOR HER AND I'D SEE IF
SHE WAS DOWN THERE AND I'D SNEAK
00:34:33.94\00:34:39.07
AROUND THE AISLES AND I'D THROW
IT IN AND I'D LOOK BACK AND SAY,
00:34:39.11\00:34:44.01
'OH, SHE'S HELPING
SOMEBODY ELSE. GO CHECK OUT -
00:34:44.05\00:34:45.71
SELF CHECK OUT - QUICK!'
(LAUGHTER) I WAS LIVING A SECRET
00:34:45.75\00:34:49.92
LIFE. YEAH, IT WAS PRETTY BAD.
00:34:49.95\00:34:59.73
SO I WAS A HYPOCRITE. I'M
PREACHING ABOUT THE HEALTH
00:34:59.76\00:35:04.07
MESSAGE AND I WAS
ADDICTED TO JUNK FOOD.
00:35:04.10\00:35:10.41
AND I KNOW IT WASN'T GOOD FOR
ME, EVEN THOUGH THE LORD BLESSED
00:35:10.44\00:35:13.34
ME WITH A
RELATIVELY GOOD CONSTITUTION.
00:35:13.38\00:35:16.88
YOU KNOW, JESUS TALKS ABOUT
THIS, WHERE HE SAID, 'WOE TO YOU
00:35:16.91\00:35:19.51
SCRIBES AND
PHARISEES, HYPOCRITES!
00:35:19.55\00:35:21.38
YOU DEVOUR WIDOWS' HOUSES
AND FOR A PRETENSE YOU MAKE LONG
00:35:21.42\00:35:23.99
PRAYERS.' IN LUKE 11, 'WOE
TO YOU LAWYERS FOR YOU LOAD MEN
00:35:24.02\00:35:29.19
WITH BURDENS HARD TO BEAR AND
YOU YOURSELVES DO NOT TOUCH THE
00:35:29.22\00:35:32.53
BURDENS WITH ONE OF YOUR
FINGERS. SO I'D PREACH A SERMON
00:35:32.56\00:35:35.00
ON GAINING THE VICTORY
OVER SIN WHEN I WAS A SLAVE.
00:35:35.03\00:35:39.37
NOW THE REASON I PICKED THIS
SUBJECT - AND I PRAYED ABOUT
00:35:39.40\00:35:41.74
THIS - I THINK THE LORD WANTED
ME TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS.
00:35:41.77\00:35:45.01
THE REASON I PICKED THIS
SUBJECT BECAUSE THIS IS AT LEAST
00:35:45.04\00:35:47.48
SOMETHING I CAN CONFESS TO YOU
AND YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO
00:35:47.51\00:35:49.58
GET ME FIRED.
BUT IT WAS VERY REAL.
00:35:49.61\00:35:53.95
I WAS ADDICTED.
AND I WAS HIDING IT.
00:35:53.98\00:35:57.49
AND I WAS WASTING MONEY.
IT WAS EXPENSIVE - ADDICTION.
00:35:57.52\00:36:02.89
BUT LITTLE BY LITTLE - ANY OF
YOU EVER HEARD THAT SONG CALLED
00:36:02.92\00:36:07.96
JUNK FOOD JUNKIE ? YEARS
AGO - NOW THIS IS GOING TO
00:36:07.96\00:36:12.30
DATE YOU IF YOU KNOW
THE WORDS TO THIS SONG.
00:36:12.33\00:36:15.80
YEARS AGO A GUY NAMED LARRY
GROCE WROTE A SONG ABOUT - THIS
00:36:15.84\00:36:21.28
WAS BACK WHEN THE HIPPIES BEGAN
TO GET INTO THE HEALTH-FOOD
00:36:21.31\00:36:23.51
MOVEMENT - ANY OF YOU REMEMBER
EUELL GIBBONS AND THE NATURE
00:36:23.55\00:36:26.48
CEREAL? YEAH, OKAY.
00:36:26.51\00:36:30.25
THIS GUY WROTE A SONG CALLED
JUNK FOOD JUNKIE AND IT ACTUALLY
00:36:30.29\00:36:38.63
KIND OF RELAYS THE KIND
OF HYPOCRISY THAT SOME PEOPLE
00:36:38.66\00:36:41.43
STRUGGLE WITH - YOU'VE GOT YOUR
PUBLIC LIFE AND THEN YOU'VE GOT
00:36:41.46\00:36:43.83
WHAT'S REAL. HE
SAID, 'YOU KNOW THAT I LOVE
00:36:43.87\00:36:47.14
ORGANIC COOKING, I ALWAYS
ASK FOR MORE, THEY CALL ME
00:36:47.17\00:36:49.74
MR. NATURAL ON DOWN
AT THE HEALTH FOOD STORE.
00:36:49.77\00:36:52.81
I ONLY EAT GOOD SEA SALT, WHITE
SUGAR DON'T TOUCH MY LIPS, AND
00:36:52.84\00:36:56.61
MY FRIENDS ARE ALWAYS BEGGING
ME TO TAKE THEM ON MACROBIOTIC
00:36:56.64\00:36:59.28
TRIPS, BUT AT NIGHT I TAKE OUT
MY STRONGBOX THAT I KEEP UNDER
00:36:59.31\00:37:03.75
LOCK AND KEY, AND I TAKE IT OFF
TO MY CLOSET WHERE NO ONE ELSE
00:37:03.79\00:37:07.49
CAN SEE. I OPEN THE
DOOR SO SLOWLY, TAKE
00:37:07.52\00:37:10.66
A PEEK UP NORTH AND SOUTH,
AND THEN I PULL OUT A HOSTESS
00:37:10.69\00:37:13.86
TWINKIE AND I
STUFF IT IN MY MOUTH.
00:37:13.90\00:37:16.87
IN THE DAYTIME I'M MR. NATURAL,
JUST AS HEALTHY AS I CAN BE, BUT
00:37:16.90\00:37:21.10
AT NIGHT I'M A JUNK FOOD JUNKIE,
DEAR LORD, HAVE PITY ON ME."
00:37:21.14\00:37:25.77
AND HE'S GOT SEVERAL VERSES THAT
TELL A SIMILAR STORY ABOUT HOW
00:37:25.81\00:37:29.48
ALL OF HIS FRIENDS THINK HE'S
SO NATURAL BUT - THE LAST ONE IS
00:37:29.51\00:37:33.72
ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD. HE
SAID, 'OH FOLKS, BUT LATELY
00:37:33.75\00:37:40.36
I'VE BEEN SPOTTED WITH A BIG MAC
ON MY BREATH, STUMBLING IN TO A
00:37:40.39\00:37:44.86
COLONEL SANDERS WITH A
FACE AS WHITE AS DEATH.
00:37:44.89\00:37:47.76
I'M AFRAID SOMEDAY THEY'LL FIND
ME JUST STRETCHED OUT ON MY BED,
00:37:47.83\00:37:51.53
WITH A HANDFUL OF PRINGLES
POTATO CHIPS AND A DING-DONG BY
00:37:51.57\00:37:54.44
MY HEAD. IN THE
DAYTIME I'M MR. NATURAL,
00:37:54.47\00:37:58.54
JUST AS HEALTHY AS I CAN
BE, BUT AT NIGHT I'M A JUNK FOOD
00:37:58.57\00:38:01.61
JUNKIE.' YOU KNOW WHAT
THIS IS TALKING ABOUT IS KIND
00:38:01.64\00:38:04.71
OF LIVING A DOUBLE LIFE.
NOW THIS PLAYS ITSELF OUT - I'M
00:38:04.75\00:38:10.79
TALKING ABOUT A
PROBLEM WITH ICE CREAM.
00:38:10.82\00:38:13.96
THIS PLAYS ITSELF OUT
IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
00:38:13.99\00:38:17.46
NOW SOME OF YOU ARE GOING TO
BE REALLY SELF-CONSCIOUS IF YOU
00:38:17.49\00:38:20.83
INVITE PASTOR DOUG OVER AND
YOU HAVE ICE CREAM FOR DESSERT.
00:38:20.86\00:38:23.93
DON'T WORRY, I GOT
THE VICTORY, PRAISE GOD.
00:38:23.97\00:38:25.90
IT'S TAKEN YEARS
BUT I GOT THE VICTORY.
00:38:25.93\00:38:28.00
I'M OKAY. I'M NOT
SAYING ICE CREAM IS A SIN.
00:38:28.04\00:38:30.64
SHOPPING ONLINE IS
NOT A SIN FOR EVERYBODY.
00:38:30.67\00:38:38.68
BUT I KNOW A PASTOR THAT
HE WOULD GET ONLINE AND START
00:38:38.71\00:38:43.42
BUYING STUFF AND HE COULDN'T
STOP. AND HIS HOUSE AND HIS
00:38:43.45\00:38:48.69
GARAGE WERE FILLED WITH PRODUCTS
THAT WERE NOT EVEN OPENED - THAT
00:38:48.72\00:38:52.26
HE BOUGHT IMPULSIVELY, EITHER
FROM SHOPPING CHANNEL OR SOME
00:38:52.29\00:38:57.50
SALE ONLINE - AND HE HAD SPENT
ALL OF HIS MONEY - ALL OF HIS
00:38:57.53\00:39:01.74
RETIREMENT - AND
WAS DEEPLY IN DEBT.
00:39:01.77\00:39:04.74
NOW IS THERE ANY
SIN IN SHOPPING ON LINE?
00:39:04.77\00:39:07.98
I'VE DONE IT THIS
YEAR. YOU CAN BUY STUFF.
00:39:08.01\00:39:09.84
YOU CAN SAVE MONEY.
BUT SOME PEOPLE CAN'T.
00:39:09.88\00:39:14.85
AND YOU MAY HAVE WEAKNESSES AND
YOU THINK, 'WELL, THIS ISN'T SO
00:39:14.88\00:39:17.22
BAD.' BUT HAS IT
GOTTEN TOO BIG FOR YOU?
00:39:17.25\00:39:21.29
IS IT TAKING OVER IN YOUR
LIFE? IS IT SOMETHING THAT'S OUT
00:39:21.32\00:39:24.13
OF BALANCE IN YOUR
LIFE? SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE,
00:39:24.16\00:39:27.03
MAYBE, COVERING UP? NOW,
I GOT SO BAD THAT I WAS ON
00:39:27.10\00:39:33.90
MY KNEES - YOU WOULD PROBABLY
NEVER THINK THAT SOMEONE WOULD
00:39:33.94\00:39:36.24
HAVE TO GET ON THEIR
KNEES AND PLEAD FOR THE VICTORY
00:39:36.27\00:39:39.14
OVER ICE CREAM. WELL I DID.
00:39:39.17\00:39:42.41
I FINALLY SAID, 'LORD,' - I'D
QUIT FOR A WHILE AND THEN I'D
00:39:42.44\00:39:45.25
START AGAIN. I'D SAY, 'I'VE GOT
00:39:45.28\00:39:46.41
IT UNDER CONTROL.
NOTHING'S WRONG WITH A LITTLE
00:39:46.45\00:39:47.98
BIT.' BUT I
COULDN'T HANDLE A LITTLE BIT.
00:39:48.02\00:39:50.99
AND I FINALLY HAD TO SAY, 'LORD,
HELP ME.' AND YOU KNOW, IT
00:39:51.02\00:39:56.19
REQUIRED HUMAN EFFORT
BUT I BELIEVE GOD INTERVENED.
00:39:56.22\00:40:01.10
AND AS I MADE MY EFFORTS
HUMANLY, THE LORD THEN TAKES IT
00:40:01.13\00:40:04.17
AWAY - HE GIVES YOU
A SUPERNATURAL POWER.
00:40:04.20\00:40:07.50
THERE'S A STATEMENT TO THAT
EFFECT. 'THE DIVINE COMBINED
00:40:07.54\00:40:12.31
WITH A HUMAN EFFORT WILL GIVE TO
ALL PERFECT AND ENTIRE VICTORY.
00:40:12.34\00:40:16.41
EVERY BELIEVING MIND WILL
BE FILLED WITH CONSCIOUS POWER.
00:40:16.44\00:40:20.65
THE LANGUAGE OF THE SOUL WILL
BE 'I CAN DO ALL THINGS THROUGH
00:40:20.68\00:40:23.72
CHRIST THAT STRENGTHENS ME.''
NOW I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU, IN
00:40:23.75\00:40:30.13
FOLLOWING UP FROM MY PERSONAL
STRUGGLE - I KNOW YOU THINK THIS
00:40:30.16\00:40:33.36
IS KIND OF STRANGE BUT
THERE IS A POINT TO IT.
00:40:33.40\00:40:37.70
I PRAISE GOD - YOU MIGHT
THINK IT'S ODD, BUT I PRAISE GOD
00:40:37.73\00:40:42.84
BECAUSE I WAS A SLAVE. IT
CONTROLLED MY TIME, IT TOOK
00:40:42.87\00:40:46.01
MY MONEY, IT - AT THE END OF THE
DAY IT HAD TO BE PART OF MY DAY.
00:40:46.04\00:40:49.74
IT WAS LIKE I
ASSOCIATED IT WITH COMFORT.
00:40:49.78\00:40:51.78
IT WAS ALMOST
EMOTIONAL. BUT I WAS ADDICTED.
00:40:51.81\00:40:55.05
BUT THE LORD
TOOK IT AWAY FROM ME.
00:40:55.08\00:40:56.62
IT'S BEEN YEARS
NOW. NOW I'M A VEGAN.
00:40:56.65\00:40:58.12
CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT?
00:40:58.15\00:40:59.39
FOR YEARS I WAS USING RICE DREAM
AND ALMOND MILK AND SOY MILK IN
00:40:59.42\00:41:04.29
MY CEREAL AND TOLD EVERYONE I'M
A VEGETARIAN - AND I WAS - BUT
00:41:04.33\00:41:08.66
AT NIGHT I WAS A
GLUTTON WITH ICE CREAM.
00:41:08.70\00:41:14.17
DAYTIME I'M MR. NATURAL.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED - AND
00:41:14.20\00:41:20.18
ONE REASON I'M SO
EXCITED ABOUT THIS?
00:41:20.21\00:41:21.78
WHEN I FINALLY WENT TWO WEEKS
WITHOUT EATING ICE CREAM - NO
00:41:21.81\00:41:25.85
DAIRY - I STARTED REALIZING, FOR
THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I WAS
00:41:25.88\00:41:31.02
BREATHING. I'M NOT EXAGGERATING.
00:41:31.05\00:41:34.36
I DIDN'T KNOW I
HAD AN ALLERGY TO MILK.
00:41:34.39\00:41:37.49
THIS IS NOT RELIGIOUS,
I'M JUST TELLING YOU ME.
00:41:37.53\00:41:39.69
KAREN STILL EATS DAIRY - AND THE
KIDS. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ITS
00:41:39.73\00:41:43.60
BEING SOMETHING RELIGIOUS.
ALL MY LIFE I WAS ALLERGIC TO
00:41:43.63\00:41:47.34
MILK AND I DIDN'T KNOW IT AND I
COULD NOT BREATHE THE WAY NORMAL
00:41:47.37\00:41:51.61
PEOPLE BREATHE
AND I DIDN'T KNOW IT.
00:41:51.64\00:41:53.64
I DIDN'T EVEN - NOT KNOW WHAT IT
FELT LIKE - BECAUSE EVEN IN THE
00:41:53.68\00:41:56.11
CAVE I'D GO DOWN AND
I'D GET MY ICE CREAM.
00:41:56.14\00:41:58.45
IT TAKES A COUPLE WEEKS BEFORE
IT ALL OF A SUDDEN HIT ME.
00:41:58.48\00:42:01.42
AND I STARTED BEING ABLE TO
BREATHE. MY HEAD CLEARED UP.
00:42:01.45\00:42:05.29
MY SINUSES CLEARED UP - AND ONCE
I REALIZED, 'SO THIS IS WHAT IT
00:42:05.32\00:42:11.03
FEELS LIKE TO BREATHE WITHOUT
SNORTING AND COUGHING ALL THE
00:42:11.06\00:42:14.73
TIME.' MAN, I AM SO EXCITED THAT
IF YOU OFFER ME ICE CREAM I SAY,
00:42:14.76\00:42:21.90
'OH MAN, I LIKE
BREATHING. NO WAY.' THERE ARE
00:42:21.94\00:42:25.87
BENEFITS - SO PRAISE GOD.
I MEAN, I AM JUST SO THANKFUL
00:42:25.91\00:42:28.94
THAT I GOT THE
VICTORY IN THIS DEPARTMENT.
00:42:28.98\00:42:31.15
BUT THE SAME DYNAMICS THAT I
STRUGGLED WITH ARE REAL IN OUR
00:42:31.18\00:42:36.95
LIVES ON SOMETHING
THAT IS A LOT MORE SERIOUS.
00:42:36.99\00:42:40.29
SOME PEOPLE, MAYBE IT'S NOT
ICE CREAM - MAYBE IT'S ALCOHOL.
00:42:40.32\00:42:45.73
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT GO TO
CHURCH AND THEY GO THROUGH THE
00:42:45.76\00:42:48.73
MOTIONS OF BEING A CHRISTIAN
AND THEY'VE GOT AN ADDICTION TO
00:42:48.76\00:42:51.63
SHOPPING. THEY CAN'T CONTROL IT.
00:42:51.67\00:42:55.74
THEY DO IT FOR
COMFORT. IT COULD BE SOME DRUG.
00:42:55.77\00:42:59.07
SOME PEOPLE SIT AT THE COMPUTER
AND THEY'RE ADDICTED TO OTHER
00:42:59.11\00:43:01.31
THINGS. IT MIGHT BE PORNOGRAPHY.
00:43:01.34\00:43:05.85
AND IT'S LIKE YOU
LIVE A SECRET LIFE.
00:43:05.88\00:43:08.32
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT
WAYS THAT IT PLAYS OUT.
00:43:08.35\00:43:10.82
JESUS DOESN'T JUST COME TO SAVE
US IN OUR SIN, HE COMES TO SAVE
00:43:10.85\00:43:14.62
US FROM OUR SIN - AND HE CAN.
AND YOU'LL HAVE A PEACE AND A
00:43:14.66\00:43:18.06
JOY, WHEN HE DOES, THAT'S
UNLIKE ANYTHING YOU CAN IMAGINE.
00:43:18.09\00:43:21.03
ROMANS 6, VERSE 12 - THIS WAS
OUR MEMORY VERSE - "THEREFORE DO
00:43:21.06\00:43:25.40
NOT LET SIN REIGN" - NOW
GOD DIDN'T SAY THAT WE'RE
00:43:25.43\00:43:29.24
NEVER GOING TO STUMBLE AND FALL.
00:43:29.27\00:43:31.81
HE SAYS, 'IF ANY MAN SIN WE HAVE
AN ADVOCATE WITH THE FATHER.'
00:43:31.84\00:43:34.71
WHAT HE DOES SAY, THOUGH, IS SIN
SHOULD NOT REIGN OVER YOU - "IN
00:43:34.74\00:43:39.21
YOUR MORTAL BODY, THAT YOU
SHOULD OBEY IT IN ITS LUSTS.
00:43:39.25\00:43:41.98
AND DO NOT PRESENT YOUR
MEMBERS AS INSTRUMENTS OF
00:43:42.02\00:43:44.45
UNRIGHTEOUSNESS TO SIN, BUT
PRESENT YOURSELVES TO GOD AS
00:43:44.49\00:43:48.16
BEING ALIVE FROM THE DEAD, AND
YOUR MEMBERS AS INSTRUMENTS OF
00:43:48.19\00:43:51.09
RIGHTEOUSNESS TO GOD. FOR
SIN SHALL NOT HAVE DOMINION
00:43:51.13\00:43:54.10
OVER YOU, FOR YOU ARE NOT
UNDER LAW BUT UNDER GRACE."
00:43:54.10\00:43:58.20
JUMP DOWN TO VERSE 17 IN ROMANS
6, "BUT GOD BE THANKED THAT
00:43:58.23\00:44:03.20
THOUGH YOU WERE SLAVES OF SIN,
YET YOU OBEYED FROM THE HEART
00:44:03.24\00:44:06.07
THAT FORM OF DOCTRINE TO
WHICH YOU WERE DELIVERED.
00:44:06.11\00:44:09.18
AND HAVING BEEN SET FREE
FROM SIN, YOU BECAME SLAVES OF
00:44:09.21\00:44:12.05
RIGHTEOUSNESS. I
SPEAK IN HUMAN TERMS BECAUSE
00:44:12.08\00:44:14.85
OF THE WEAKNESS OF YOUR
FLESH. FOR JUST AS YOU PRESENTED
00:44:14.88\00:44:18.12
YOUR MEMBERS AS SLAVES OF
UNCLEANNESS, AND OF LAWLESSNESS
00:44:18.15\00:44:21.26
LEADING TO MORE LAWLESSNESS,
SO NOW PRESENT YOUR MEMBERS AS
00:44:21.29\00:44:25.46
SLAVES OF RIGHTEOUSNESS FOR
HOLINESS." AND HE GOES ON TO SAY
00:44:25.49\00:44:30.23
IN VERSE 23, "FOR THE WAGES
OF SIN IS DEATH, BUT THE GIFT OF
00:44:30.27\00:44:33.70
GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE IN
CHRIST JESUS OUR LORD."
00:44:33.74\00:44:37.04
YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK UP HIGHER
IN THE SAME CHAPTER, PAUL SAYS,
00:44:37.07\00:44:40.78
IN 1 CORINTHIANS CHAPTER 10,
'ALL THINGS ARE LAWFUL FOR ME
00:44:40.81\00:44:47.35
BUT NOT ALL THINGS ARE
EXPEDIENT.' YOU MIGHT EVEN FIND
00:44:47.38\00:44:50.42
SOMETHING THAT INHERENTLY
MAY NOT BE BAD, BUT IT IS OUT OF
00:44:50.45\00:44:53.56
BALANCE IN YOUR LIFE AND
IT'S TAKING UP YOUR TIME.
00:44:53.59\00:44:58.26
SOME PEOPLE, THEY ARE
ADDICTED TO A TV PROGRAM.
00:44:58.29\00:45:04.27
I KNOW, IT'S HARD FOR US
TO UNDERSTAND IT, SOMETIMES.
00:45:04.30\00:45:08.60
THE THINGS THAT
TEMPT YOU MAY NOT TEMPT ME.
00:45:08.64\00:45:10.94
YOU MIGHT LAUGH AT
WHAT WAS A PROBLEM FOR ME.
00:45:10.97\00:45:13.48
'SO, YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM WITH -
I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.' IT'S NOT
00:45:13.51\00:45:16.04
YOUR PROBLEM, IT WAS
MY PROBLEM. WHO KNOWS WHY?
00:45:16.08\00:45:19.58
BUT THOSE SAME PEOPLE - I KNOW
PEOPLE THAT ARE CHRISTIANS - A
00:45:19.61\00:45:26.35
LOT OF THEM - AND AT A CERTAIN
TIME EVERY DAY THEY'VE GOT TO BE
00:45:26.39\00:45:30.89
WHERE A TV IS OR THEY TAPE IT
AND THEY'VE GOT TO WATCH A SOAP
00:45:30.93\00:45:34.83
OPERA BECAUSE THEY'VE GOTTEN
SUCKED INTO THIS ARTIFICIAL -
00:45:34.83\00:45:38.53
NOW I LAUGH AT THAT. I
CANNOT UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE
00:45:38.57\00:45:41.77
WILL LOOK AT THESE ACTORS GOING
THROUGH THESE BIZARRE THINGS ON
00:45:41.80\00:45:45.24
TV SAYING, 'OH
NO, WAS IT WITH HER?'
00:45:45.27\00:45:47.94
'YES, IT'S WITH HER.'
'OH, BUT DID YOU KILL HIM?'
00:45:47.98\00:45:50.15
'NO, I KILLED' - AND
THEY'RE GOING 'AAAAAH!'
00:45:50.18\00:45:52.71
AND THEY'RE
CRYING WATCHING ALL THIS.
00:45:52.75\00:45:54.82
I'VE TRIED TO GIVE BIBLE STUDIES
TO PEOPLE - THEY'VE GOT THE SOAP
00:45:54.85\00:45:57.09
OPERA ON AND THEY SAY,
'OH, JUST A MINUTE.' 'OH!'
00:45:57.12\00:46:00.89
AND THEY GET - I CAN'T
UNDERSTAND IT, BUT IT GETS AHOLD
00:46:00.92\00:46:04.13
OF THEM AND THEIR LIVES REVOLVE
AROUND THAT PROGRAM AS MY
00:46:04.16\00:46:09.16
STOMACH TURNS - OR WHATEVER
IT'S CALLED - AND IT TAKES OVER
00:46:09.20\00:46:13.60
THEIR LIFE. AND FOR MOST
PEOPLE IT'S NOT AN ISSUE.
00:46:13.64\00:46:18.14
NOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT
YOUR PET TEMPTATION IS.
00:46:18.17\00:46:20.91
WE'RE ALL DIFFERENT.
SOME OF YOU ARE PETER.
00:46:20.94\00:46:23.98
SOME ARE JAMES. SOME ARE JOHN.
SOME ARE MARY. SOME ARE MARTHA.
00:46:24.01\00:46:28.08
THE DEVIL KNOWS WHAT IT IS AND
HE WANTS TO GET AHOLD OF YOU SO
00:46:28.12\00:46:33.15
IT CONTROLS YOU - SO IT BECOMES
THE DEFINING INFLUENCE IN YOUR
00:46:33.19\00:46:36.83
LIFE INSTEAD OF JESUS BEING
THE ONE WHO'S IN CONTROL OF YOUR
00:46:36.86\00:46:40.93
LIFE. AND, AT
SOME POINT, THE FIRST
00:46:40.96\00:46:43.40
STEP IS YOU'VE GOT TO
- LIKE I DID - SAY 'THIS
00:46:43.43\00:46:45.47
IS OUT OF CONTROL. I'VE
GOT A PROBLEM AND, LORD, I
00:46:45.50\00:46:49.47
NEED YOUR HELP.' AND
IT'S NOT A GOOD WITNESS.
00:46:49.50\00:46:54.31
YOU KNOW, WHEN - UP IN THE HILLS
NEAR OUR CABIN, WE'VE GOT A FEW
00:46:54.34\00:47:02.05
TREES THAT ARE
NICE LOOKING TREES.
00:47:02.08\00:47:05.82
AND I WAS OUT WALKING ONE DAY
AND I REMEMBER SEEING THAT THIS
00:47:05.85\00:47:09.16
POISON OAK VINE WAS BEGINNING TO
GO UP A RATHER PICTURESQUE OAK
00:47:09.19\00:47:14.66
TREE UP THERE IN THE HILLS
AND I DIDN'T THINK MUCH OF IT.
00:47:14.73\00:47:19.40
NOW, USUALLY, THE POISON OAK,
IT JUST KIND OF CRAWLS ALONG THE
00:47:19.43\00:47:22.14
GROUND. IT'S NOT VERY BIG.
00:47:22.17\00:47:23.27
OR IT MIGHT GET UP IN THE
MANZANITA BUSHES A LITTLE BIT,
00:47:23.30\00:47:25.61
BUT THEY ARE VINES AND,
UNENCUMBERED, THEY WILL CONTINUE
00:47:25.64\00:47:28.58
TO GROW AND THEY
GET PRETTY MASSIVE.
00:47:28.61\00:47:31.81
AND A FEW YEARS LATER I WENT
WALKING BY THAT SAME TREE AND I
00:47:31.85\00:47:35.82
NOTICED THAT THE POISON OAK VINE
HAD WRAPPED AROUND AND WAS GOING
00:47:35.85\00:47:39.25
UP INTO THE TREE AND IT WAS
CREATING A LOT OF WEIGHT ON THE
00:47:39.29\00:47:43.02
BRANCHES - TAKING OVER THE WHOLE
LOWER HALF OF THIS VERY BIG,
00:47:43.06\00:47:46.23
MAJESTIC OAK TREE, WHICH
NORMALLY WOULD BE VERY STRONG
00:47:46.26\00:47:48.70
AND INDEPENDENT - AND I REALIZED
THAT SOMETHING HAD TO BE DONE
00:47:48.73\00:47:53.23
OR, WHEN THE SNOW CAME, THE
WEIGHT WAS GOING TO TAKE THAT
00:47:53.27\00:47:55.80
TREE DOWN. ALL IT
TOOK WAS A CHAINSAW AND
00:47:55.84\00:48:00.74
ONE CUT AND I KNEW IT WOULD DIE.
EVEN THOUGH I MADE THE CUT, THE
00:48:00.78\00:48:08.15
VINE WAS STILL HANGING THERE,
BUT I WASN'T WORRIED ANYMORE
00:48:08.18\00:48:10.85
BECAUSE ONCE I KNEW I MADE
THE CUT, IT WAS GOING TO DIE.
00:48:10.89\00:48:14.52
AND, SURE ENOUGH, AS TIME WENT
BY, THE VINE ROTTED, IT BLEW OUT
00:48:14.56\00:48:18.26
OF THE TREE, THE TREE CONTINUED
TO FLOURISH AND STAND STRONG.
00:48:18.29\00:48:22.50
SOME OF US KNOW WE'VE GOT
TENDRILS - AND THEY START SMALL
00:48:22.53\00:48:26.63
- IN OUR LIVES, BUT THEY'LL
CONTINUE TO GROW AND WRAP
00:48:26.67\00:48:28.77
THEMSELVES AROUND YOUR LIFE AND
START SAPPING THE STRENGTH AND
00:48:28.80\00:48:32.24
DISTRACTING YOUR ENERGY AND YOUR
TIME FROM WHAT GOD WANTS YOU TO
00:48:32.27\00:48:35.24
DO. NOW, I'LL
INTERPRET YOUR SILENCE
00:48:35.28\00:48:41.85
TO MEAN THAT MAYBE THE HOLY
SPIRIT IS SPEAKING TO YOU AND
00:48:41.88\00:48:45.19
YOU KNOW THERE'S THINGS IN YOUR
LIFE THAT ARE OUT OF BALANCE.
00:48:45.22\00:48:49.19
IT MAY BE SOMETHING AS
OUTWARDLY HARMLESS AS ICE CREAM.
00:48:49.22\00:48:54.13
IT MAY BE
SOMETHING MORE SERIOUS.
00:48:54.20\00:48:56.00
IT MIGHT BE A SERIOUS
SUBSTANCE ABUSE OR PRACTICE OR
00:48:56.03\00:49:00.64
RELATIONSHIP THAT IS UNHEALTHY
AND YOU NEED TO SAY, 'LORD, I
00:49:00.67\00:49:06.61
CAN'T DO THIS WITHOUT YOUR
HELP.' AND YOU COME TO JESUS AND
00:49:06.64\00:49:10.11
YOU CONFESS THAT YOU NEED
SUPERNATURAL INTERVENTION AND
00:49:10.15\00:49:14.68
THE LORD CAN GIVE YOU THE
VICTORY AND YOU WILL REJOICE.
00:49:14.72\00:49:18.42
AND IT IS SO NICE WHEN YOU
CAN LOOK BACK AND SAY, 'FREE AT
00:49:18.45\00:49:23.76
LAST, FREE AT LAST, THANK GOD
ALMIGHTY I'M FREE AT LAST.' IT
00:49:23.79\00:49:27.86
IS SO NICE TO KNOW THAT THING
DOESN'T HAVE DOMINION OVER YOU
00:49:27.86\00:49:30.97
ANYMORE. IT'S NOT CONTROLLING
00:49:31.00\00:49:32.40
AND DEFINING YOUR LIFE.
HE WANTS YOU TO HAVE THAT
00:49:32.43\00:49:34.97
FREEDOM AND THAT EXPERIENCE.
00:49:35.00\00:49:37.87
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IT'S THAT EASY. (MUSIC)
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>>WHAT CAN BE MORE
IRRESISTIBLE THAN A KITTEN?
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THESE GUYS MIGHT LOOK CUTE NOW,
BUT SOME OF THEIR ANCESTORS HAVE
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GROWN INTO MAN EATERS.
(BIG CATS ROARING) WE'RE HERE
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IN A LION PARK IN SOUTH AFRICA,
NOW, WHERE WE CAN VIEW THESE
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CREATURES IN RELATIVE SAFETY.
BUT THERE'S A REASON THEY'RE
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KNOWN AS THE KING OF BEASTS.
SO WHAT IS IT THAT PEOPLE FIND
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SO ENCHANTING AND
FRIGHTENING ABOUT LIONS?
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IS IT THEIR SPEED? THEIR CLAWS?
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THEIR SHARP TEETH?
OR ALL OF THE ABOVE?
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IT MIGHT ALSO BE SOME OF THE
STORIES ABOUT MAN-EATING LIONS,
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LIKE IN 1898 RIGHT HERE IN
AFRICA, THEY WERE BUILDING A
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BRIDGE OVER THE SABO RIVER
IN KENYA AND TWO BROTHER LIONS
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TERRORIZED THE CONSTRUCTION
PROCESS, EATING 135 WORKERS.
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DID YOU KNOW LIONS ARE MENTIONED
IN THE BIBLE OVER 100 TIMES AND
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YOU CAN FIND THEM ALL THE
WAY FROM GENESIS TO REVELATION.
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IT'S USUALLY IN REFERENCE TO
THEIR FEROCITY AND HOW DANGEROUS
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THEY ARE. OF
COURSE, SAMSON KILLED A
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LION WITH HIS BARE
HANDS. DAVID KILLED A LION.
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THERE ARE
MAN-EATING LIONS IN THE BIBLE.
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THE WAY THAT THEY PUNISHED
CRIMINALS WAS BY THROWING THEM
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IN THE LIONS DEN - AND EARLY
CHRISTIANS WERE EVEN FED TO
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LIONS. BUT,
AMAZINGLY, AS THE BIBLE
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MENTIONS, NOT ALL
LIONS ARE TO BE FEARED.
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THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW
FRIENDLY LIONS IN HISTORY.
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FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE 1950S
A COUPLE, GEORGE AND MARGARET
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WESTBEAU, WHO LIVED UP AT A
RANCH NEAR SEATTLE, WASHINGTON,
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ADOPTED AN ABANDONED LION
CUB. THEY NAMED IT LITTLE TYKE
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BECAUSE THEY FELT SORRY FOR
IT. BUT THEY DISCOVERED, AS THEY
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TRIED TO FEED HER, SHE
REFUSED TO EAT ANY MEAT AT ALL.
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THEY WERE CONCERNED, THINKING
THERE WAS NO HOPE FOR THIS
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LITTLE LIONESS TO SURVIVE - AND
EVERYBODY TOLD THEM THE SAME,
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BECAUSE WE KNOW, IN THE
WILD, LIONS SURVIVE ON ALMOST AN
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ENTIRELY MEAT DIET.
THEN SOMEONE SHOWED THE
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WESTBEAUS THAT VERSE IN
THE BIBLE THAT TALKS ABOUT, IN
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HEAVEN, THE ANIMALS ARE
VEGETARIANS AND THE LION
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WILL EAT STRAW LIKE THE OX.
THAT ENCOURAGED THEM AND SO THEY
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BEGAN TO FEED LITTLE
TYKE A PURELY VEGETARIAN DIET.
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NOT ONLY DID SHE SURVIVE,
SHE THRIVED, GROWING INTO A LION
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THAT WAS OVER 352
POUNDS AND OVER TEN FEET LONG.
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IN FACT, ZOOLOGISTS THAT
EXAMINED LITTLE TYKE, WHEN SHE
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WAS FULL GROWN, SAID THEY
HAD NEVER SEEN SUCH A PERFECT
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SPECIMEN OF A LIONESS IN
THEIR LIFE - A PURE VEGETARIAN.
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YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HEAR
INCREDIBLE STORIES ABOUT THAT OF
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LITTLE TYKE, IT REMINDS US THAT
GOD'S ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO MAKE
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A WORLD OF TOTAL PEACE.
IT DESCRIBES IT HERE IN THE
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BIBLE IN ISAIAH CHAPTER 11,
VERSE 6, "THE WOLF ALSO SHALL
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DWELL WITH THE LAMB, THE LEOPARD
SHALL LIE DOWN WITH THE YOUNG
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GOAT, THE CALF AND THE YOUNG
LION AND THE FATLING TOGETHER;
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AND A LITTLE
CHILD SHALL LEAD THEM."
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NOTHING IS GOING TO HURT AND
DESTROY IN THE NEW HEAVENS AND
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THE NEW EARTH THAT
GOD IS GOING TO CREATE.
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WOULDN'T YOU LIKE TO LIVE IN
A KINGDOM WHERE THERE'S PERFECT
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PEACE - WHERE THERE'S NO
MORE DEATH OR KILLING OR PAIN?
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GOD SAYS THAT HE
WANTS YOU IN THAT KINGDOM.
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THE LAMB OF GOD MADE IT POSSIBLE
FOR YOU TO HAVE AN ENCOUNTER
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WITH THE LION OF
THE TRIBE OF JUDAH.
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WOULDN'T YOU LIKE
TO MEET HIM TODAY?
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(MUSIC)
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>>LET'S FACE IT, IT'S NOT ALWAYS
EASY TO UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING
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YOU READ IN THE BIBLE. WITH
OVER 700,000 WORDS CONTAINED IN
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66 BOOKS, THE BIBLE CAN GENERATE
A LOT OF QUESTIONS. TO GET
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>>AMAZING FACTS, CHANGED LIVES.
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>>WELL, MY CONVERSION STORY IS
WHEN I WAS IN THE PHILIPPINES I
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JUST GRADUATED AS A NURSE AND
AFTERWARDS I DID NOT HAVE ANY
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RELIGION AND ONE TIME I FOUND
MYSELF INSIDE A SMALL CHURCH -
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CATHOLIC CHURCH IN
MANILLA AND BEFORE A BIG CROSS.
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AND I WAS KNEELING BEFORE AND
I COULD HEAR JESUS TELLING ME TO
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ENTER THE CONVENT - SAVE
MYSELF AND ALSO MY FAMILY.
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AND I SAID, 'LORD, I WOULD LIKE
TO FOLLOW YOU ALL THE WAY.' AT
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THAT POINT, I SEEMED TO BE HAPPY
EXTERNALLY BUT, BECAUSE INSIDE
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THE CONVENT WE DON'T READ OUR
BIBLE - WE DON'T STUDY ABOUT THE
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WORD OF GOD. WE
PRAY THE ROSARIES.
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WE ALSO, AT THE SAME TIME, STUDY
THE LIVES OF THE SAINTS AND ALSO
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OUR FOUNDERS AND THE ENCYCLICALS
OF THE POPE AND THE VIRGIN MARY.
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AND SO I DO NOT KNOW THE
TRUTH AND I HAD THIS TORTURE OF
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CONSCIENCE - THE GUILTY FEELINGS
THAT CANNOT BE RESOLVED.
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SO I WOULD CONFESS TO THE PRIEST
IN THE CONFESSIONAL BOX SAYING,
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'FATHER FORGIVE ME.
SINCE - MY LAST CONFESSION WAS
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LAST WEEK - SINCE THEN I HAVE
COMMITTED THE FOLLOWING SIN,
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INCLUDING THE ROOT CAUSE, WHY
AM I FALLING AND FALLING IN THAT
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SAME SIN OVER AND OVER AGAIN?'
AND STILL, FOR 21 LONG YEARS, I
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STRUGGLE AND I
STRUGGLE AND I STRUGGLE.
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I REALIZED THAT I
WAS TOTALLY EMPTY.
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I WAS TOTALLY HELPLESS AND
HOPELESS AND SO DEPRESSED AND SO
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DESPERATE THAT I WOULD
LIKE ALREADY TO END MY LIFE.
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I WAS WORKING FOR FIVE YEARS AS
DEAN OF THE UNIVERSITY OF SAINT
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AUGUSTINE COLLEGE OF NURSING
IN ILOILO CITY ON ONE OF THE
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ISLANDS IN THE PHILIPPINES.
AFTER FIVE YEARS I RECEIVE MY
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COMMISSION FROM MY
PARENTS TO HELP MY SISTER WHO IS
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BEING A BATTERED WOMAN.
THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I
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CAME OVER TO UNITED
STATES, IT IS BECAUSE MY SISTER
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NEEDS MY HELP. AS I
WAS WORKING IN THE HOSPITAL
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IN NEW YORK, MY BOSS SERAPHIN,
HE WAS SO GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO
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GIVE ME AN INVITATION
TO THE MILLENNIUM PROPHECY.
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AS I WAS LISTENING TO PASTOR
DOUG BATCHELOR'S PRESENTATION,
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MY HEART REALLY WAS BEATING SO
FAST AND MY MIND - I'M ABLE TO
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GRASP THE TRUTH THAT THIS IS THE
TRUTH THAT I'VE BEEN LONGING TO
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HEAR ALL MY LIFE - THAT
I'VE BEEN SEEKING FOR SO LONG.
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MY PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH
JESUS - I CAN SEE JESUS AS MY
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PERSONAL SAVIOR. HE
IS NOT ONLY THE SAVIOR OF
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THE WHOLE WORLD, BUT
HE IS MY PERSONAL SAVIOR.
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HE WAS THE ONE WHO DELIVERED ME
MIGHTILY FROM THE DEPTHS OF SIN
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- FROM THE MIREY CLAY.
PASTOR DOUG BATCHELOR HAS
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BEEN USED BY THE
LORD IN MY CONVERSION.
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THE AMAZING FACTS I OWE TO THEM.
THE LORD REALLY BLESSED THIS
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MINISTRY AND I'M SO
PROUD I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THIS
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MILLENNIUM PROPHECY. MY
LIFE HAS NEVER BEEN THE SAME.
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IT HAS GIVEN ME THAT PEACE
- THAT JOY THAT NEVER - I HAVE
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NEVER TASTED IN MY LIFE AND NOW
I'M SET FREE TO BE ABLE TO WORK
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FOR HIM AND TO FOLLOW HIM.
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(MUSIC)
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