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Turning The World Upside Down, Part 1 and 2

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00:04 What if we're going to make the mission
00:07 of seeking and saving the lost,
00:09 the most important thing in the church today,
00:12 then something is going to have to change
00:16 because the way we do things now,
00:19 seeking and saving the lost is not the main priority.
00:24 We're gonna have to change something
00:25 about the way we structure things.
00:27 We're gonna have to change something
00:29 about the way we do mission.
00:31 We're gonna have to change things
00:32 even in our own individual lives
00:35 because if I say that my church exists
00:38 solely to seek and save the lost,
00:40 that's the highest priority.
00:42 That means that's where I spend my time.
00:45 That's where I spend my attention.
00:47 And that's where I spend my money.
00:49 I can say it, but time, attention, and money shows
00:54 whether I as an individual or as a church
00:56 I'm really living that in my life.
00:59 In fact to illustrate that,
01:00 let me ask you a question in a practical way.
01:04 How many of you have ever served
01:06 on a church board
01:07 at any time in your life at any particular,
01:09 could be this one or other church
01:11 you used to be part of?
01:12 Can I see your hand?
01:14 I mean, if any denomination for that matter,
01:16 how many people actually been on a church board?
01:18 Okay, now I'm gonna ask you something,
01:19 and don't answer it out loud.
01:21 You can just kind of nod your head
01:22 one way or the other, if you like.
01:25 Every church board that I know of
01:28 has an agenda for each meeting.
01:29 Is that correct?
01:31 And on that agenda, it has items,
01:33 which are the things you're gonna talk about,
01:36 and hopefully make a decision on.
01:38 If you think of all the agendas
01:40 that you have ever looked at on a church board meeting
01:43 or any committee meeting,
01:45 if we answered honestly,
01:47 how many of those items ever had anything to do
01:51 with seeking and saving the lost?
01:53 How many of those items
01:55 ever had anything to do with mission
01:58 and reaching people who don't know Jesus?
02:01 And what percent of those items
02:03 were basically inward focused on ourselves?
02:07 Things that dealt with what happens
02:09 inside the four walls of a church.
02:13 If we're brutally honest,
02:15 the vast majority of the items in our agenda
02:18 have little to do with mission
02:21 and seeking and saving lost people.
02:24 Now when I was a pastor in Pennsylvania,
02:26 I was the church board
02:28 or the church board chairperson.
02:30 So I was in charge of the agenda.
02:32 And so now when I look back at that time,
02:34 and I realized
02:35 how many things I allowed us to talk about
02:38 that had nothing to do with reaching lost people,
02:41 I'm almost ashamed of myself.
02:43 I remember one meeting in particular,
02:45 and I have a feeling
02:47 some of you can probably relate to this.
02:49 Every church board meeting
02:50 usually you have a couple of formalities.
02:53 You're supposed to do two reports and what are they?
02:56 Oh, come on.
02:58 If you served on a church board?
02:59 What are they?
03:01 Clerk's Report and the Treasurer's Report.
03:04 Those things are meant to be, you know, five,
03:06 maybe ten minutes long just to clarify
03:09 what's happened in the previous meeting,
03:11 just so everybody knows what's going on with finances.
03:14 Well, I remember one church board,
03:16 we got to the Treasurer's Report,
03:19 we spent the next hour to hour and a half
03:24 on the Treasurer's Report.
03:26 I wanted to cry.
03:29 Now it wouldn't have been so bad
03:31 if we were talking about
03:32 how we can find money to do evangelism
03:34 or to find some kind of outreach ministry
03:37 to people who don't know Jesus,
03:39 then I wouldn't have minded
03:40 if that's what we were talking about,
03:42 but you know what the hour and a half discussion
03:44 was concerning.
03:46 Whether we should move the money
03:47 from one CD fund to another
03:50 and get half a percent interest more
03:54 for an hour and a half,
03:57 a CD fund
03:58 that hadn't been touched in years.
04:00 That was probably going to sit there and burn
04:02 when Jesus comes anyway,
04:04 we spent 90 minutes talking about
04:07 whether to move it from one CD to another.
04:11 When I drove home that day,
04:13 I just wanted to pull out my hair.
04:15 And I asked myself
04:16 is this what mission is supposed to be?
04:20 Is this the things we talk about
04:22 in our church board and in our committee meetings?
04:26 And now that I look back,
04:28 it's as much my fault
04:29 because I should have stopped that
04:31 after about 15 minutes.
04:34 How much of our conversation has to do
04:37 with reaching lost people?
04:40 When I pastored in Pennsylvania,
04:43 the Pennsylvania Conference asked us to do some things
04:46 with the activities in our church.
04:48 They had done a survey of their conference,
04:51 and they realized
04:52 that there were 153 areas in Pennsylvania,
04:55 153 cities
04:58 that had a population of at least 50,000.
05:01 How many did I say?
05:02 Fifty thousand, no Adventist presence,
05:05 153 areas, no Adventist presence,
05:09 and the work had been going on in that conference
05:11 for over 100 years.
05:13 And they realized
05:14 we got to do something different
05:16 'cause what we're doing isn't working.
05:18 And so they asked us to look at each church
05:21 and ask that church to evaluate all of their activities
05:25 and all of our outreach ministries
05:27 with these two questions.
05:29 How is this activity
05:30 about seeking and saving the lost?
05:33 And how does this activity, this ministry, this outreach,
05:37 how is it fulfilling the gospel commission?
05:40 And if that activity had very little to do
05:43 with reaching the lost,
05:44 if it had little to do with our mission,
05:47 the opportunity was either change it
05:50 or get rid of it
05:52 because it's not fulfilling its purpose.
05:55 Try that sometime.
05:56 Go through all the activities you have as a church
06:00 or even as an individual
06:01 and ask how much of this has to do
06:04 with reaching lost people?
06:06 You might be surprised at some things
06:08 that have to be changed or maybe even reprioritize.
06:13 For example,
06:14 let's take a social committee, okay?
06:17 What is the purpose of a social committee?
06:19 Most churches have a social committee.
06:22 If the purpose of the social committee
06:24 is simply to create events
06:26 that church members can come to
06:29 and socialize with each other.
06:32 How much does that actually have to do
06:34 with seeking and saving the lost?
06:36 How much does that have to do
06:38 with actually fulfilling the gospel commission?
06:40 And if our answer
06:42 is probably not as much as it should,
06:45 then maybe we need to change
06:46 what the purpose of the social committee is.
06:49 Now I'm not saying get rid of a social committee,
06:51 I'm not saying that members
06:52 shouldn't fellowship with each other
06:53 because Acts said the early church did,
06:56 but they did more than that.
06:58 One of the social committee created events
07:01 that were specifically targeted
07:03 to where members could invite their friends to
07:07 something that people out in the community
07:10 might be interested in
07:12 and so then you have
07:13 a social committee creating things
07:15 that not only members can come and fellowship with each other,
07:18 but it's a chance for us
07:20 to invite our friends and guests
07:22 to just to simply build relationships.
07:25 So you see,
07:26 when you ask those two questions,
07:28 you begin to identify things
07:30 that maybe you don't need to totally get rid of it,
07:32 maybe we just need to change
07:35 or reprioritize the things that they are targeted to.
07:39 If that makes sense, can you say amen?
07:41 Those are hard questions to ask
07:43 of when you go through these things,
07:45 but now we need to ask another question.
07:49 If the New Testament Church was focused
07:51 on its mission of seeking and saving the lost,
07:54 if it's described
07:56 as turning the world upside down,
07:57 not just from the Bible,
07:59 but even from the non-Christian history books,
08:03 then what did they practically do?
08:06 It's one thing to say how they are described,
08:10 but what did they actually do in ministry?
08:14 And what you're gonna find
08:16 is the New Testament highlights two major things
08:20 that the early church did.
08:22 One was church planting,
08:25 kind of hear somebody say, church planting.
08:28 Remember that early New Testament Church
08:30 recognized,
08:32 they weren't just to build
08:33 one large institution in Jerusalem.
08:37 The whole Book of Acts describes them,
08:40 as the apostles and even others,
08:42 going to all the towns and villages
08:45 that had no Christian presence,
08:48 had not heard the gospel message
08:50 and keep moving forward from one town to the other.
08:54 That's how they grew so fast.
08:56 In fact, doing a survey of just the Book of Acts,
08:59 let's just noticed something here.
09:01 Now we're not gonna look all these verses up,
09:03 but we're gonna go down the list,
09:05 I would invite you to write them down,
09:06 you can look them up later,
09:08 but in Acts Chapter 8, it says,
09:10 "The persecution drove them from Jerusalem."
09:13 Now when you read Acts Chapter 8
09:15 that talks about the persecution
09:17 that was led by, guess who?
09:19 Who?
09:21 The Jews, but who was the man who was at the head of it?
09:25 I hope you know 'cause he was converted later.
09:27 Yes, Saul, you know, Stephen,
09:29 they stoned Stephen and set him up.
09:32 Ellen White says
09:33 in the Book Acts of the Apostles,
09:35 that God actually allowed persecution
09:37 to break out against the church in Jerusalem
09:41 because they were in danger of staying in Jerusalem
09:45 because they were kind of happy
09:46 with their social club atmosphere
09:48 and just building a big church there.
09:51 God saw that danger.
09:53 And He said, "I'm going to allow
09:54 the fires of persecution to break out."
09:57 And so when they did,
09:59 it forced the church and the apostles
10:01 to flee from Jerusalem
10:03 and start going
10:04 to all the unentered towns and villages
10:07 because right after that,
10:09 in verse 5 of Acts Chapter 8,
10:11 you see Philip going to Samaria,
10:13 in Acts Chapter 10
10:15 Peter's going to Caesarea.
10:17 In Acts 11,
10:18 Paul and Barnabas are now going to Phoenicia
10:21 and Cyprus and Antioch.
10:24 You go to Acts 14,
10:25 now they're going to Lystra, Derbe, and Iconium.
10:29 Chapter 16
10:31 now they're on their way to Macedonia and Philippi.
10:34 You go to Chapter 17 and 18 and 19.
10:38 Now they're in Thessalonica,
10:40 Berea, Athens, Corinth, Ephesus,
10:45 and by the time you get
10:46 to one of the last chapters of the book, Chapter 27.
10:49 Now Paul has gone to the very seat of the Empire.
10:53 He has gone to Rome. Amen.
10:56 Do you see the forward movement here?
10:59 One unentered area to another planting a Christian church,
11:05 which were basically groups in people's homes,
11:08 establishing believers
11:10 in all these towns and villages,
11:12 some large and some small.
11:16 In their mind, there was no such thing
11:18 as just standing still,
11:20 but they were always in a forward movement
11:23 'cause they understood what their mission was.
11:27 That's why they turned the world
11:30 upside down.
11:31 If that is one of the major things
11:33 that they did,
11:34 that should tell us in the 21st century,
11:37 that the Adventist Movement, you know,
11:40 the final remnant movement of the end time
11:42 that we're gonna have to return
11:44 to a church planting movement ourselves.
11:47 We're gonna have to return to church planting mode,
11:50 where we're not just satisfied having a big church here
11:54 or a medium church here or a small church here,
11:57 but we have got to target the unentered areas.
12:00 Let's just think of our conference
12:02 Iowa, Missouri.
12:04 How many towns and villages
12:05 do you think there are in our two states
12:08 that have no Adventist presence?
12:11 No building.
12:12 No small group.
12:14 No branch Sabbath School.
12:17 No outreach ministry,
12:18 maybe even not a single Adventist lives
12:21 in some of those towns and villages.
12:24 Should we let them go simply because,
12:26 you know, they're not a metro area
12:28 like St. Louis is where I live?
12:30 Should we just say,
12:31 "Well, do I have to drive 30 miles or 45 miles
12:34 to where we are?"
12:36 Or should we take on
12:37 the attitude of the New Testament church
12:39 and say somehow,
12:40 even if we never get a building there,
12:42 we've got a plant some kind of presence
12:45 or some kind of ministry in those towns and villages.
12:48 Can you say amen?
12:49 We have to return
12:51 to being a forward looking movement,
12:55 not simply being satisfied just where we are.
12:59 Now someone may say, "But how can we do this?
13:03 Why would we want a bunch of small churches?"
13:07 I mean, we're already a small church,
13:09 you know, most Adventist Churches would be
13:11 within a small church range.
13:13 How can a small church plant another?
13:15 Why don't we want a bunch of small churches?
13:17 Should we make our church bigger
13:19 before we start planting churches?
13:22 And while that may seem logical,
13:24 the biblical answer is no
13:27 because that's not
13:29 what the New Testament Church did.
13:31 All those churches that they planted
13:33 were house groups.
13:34 Now how big do you think house groups are?
13:37 You think there's like 200 people
13:39 fitting into a first century house?
13:41 They're small house groups.
13:43 It was small churches
13:46 that turned the world upside down
13:48 when you think about it.
13:50 If that's what the New Testament Church did,
13:52 yeah, it defies logic,
13:54 but God says it's the foolishness of man,
13:57 that he will sometimes confound,
13:59 he can confound the wise.
14:01 God says, "Don't wait till your church is big."
14:04 How many areas around Springfield?
14:06 I don't know the population of Springfield.
14:08 How many areas around Springfield
14:10 within 30 minutes
14:11 maybe have no Adventist presence?
14:14 Are we content to say, "Well, this is good enough?
14:17 Or do we need to have some kind of ministry,
14:20 some kind of outreach planted there?
14:23 Now this may shock you,
14:24 but did you know
14:26 small churches are actually better
14:27 at winning people to Jesus?
14:28 Did you know that?
14:30 Oh, see, it can't be
14:31 they don't have as many resources.
14:32 It's true.
14:34 They may not have as many people.
14:35 They may not have as much money,
14:37 but neither
14:38 did the first century Christian Church.
14:40 You think your budget is tough.
14:42 When you see the budget of first century Christianity?
14:45 They didn't have money,
14:46 but, you know, small churches win people
14:48 better than big churches normally.
14:51 For example,
14:52 let's say you have a church of 1,000
14:54 and they baptize about let's say 10 per year.
14:58 That's a growth rate of 1%.
15:00 Now you may say, "Boy,
15:02 I'd love to have 10 per year or more."
15:04 But you take a church of 15.
15:07 And they're baptizing one person a year.
15:09 And you may say, "Well, that's not much.
15:12 That's still a growth rate of 2%."
15:14 That is double that of a big church.
15:17 should be baptizing a lot more
15:20 than 10 people per year,
15:22 but many times they're not.
15:24 You see, God has gifted small churches
15:27 to be able to make a difference
15:30 because there was small churches
15:32 that impacted the first century world
15:35 with Christianity.
15:36 So we have to stop using that excuse
15:38 where our churches aren't large enough.
15:41 Neither were the first century church.
15:45 Well, let's go to another important question.
15:47 We know church planting is important.
15:49 In our division,
15:51 there's a movement called church plant,
15:53 the 1000 movement.
15:54 They wanna plant 1000 churches in North America
15:56 in the next five years, and I say,
15:58 "Amen. Praise the Lord."
15:59 And funding is being provided for it.
16:02 So we're already starting to make that turn,
16:05 but here's another question.
16:08 If the apostles were out planting churches,
16:12 who took care of the existing churches
16:14 that they planted?
16:16 If they would raise up a church or a group of believers,
16:20 and then go on to the next unentered town
16:22 and raise up another group,
16:25 who pastored and took care of the church,
16:27 they just raised up.
16:28 Have you ever wondered that?
16:30 Because apparently, from the Book of Acts,
16:33 the apostles didn't just stay there forever
16:35 and say, "Well, you know what?
16:37 I'm gonna pastor this church for a long-time,
16:39 and I'm going to do its work for it."
16:41 That's not what they did.
16:42 It says they move on to other unentered areas.
16:47 So the question would be,
16:49 who in the world took care of those churches
16:53 and pastored them.
16:55 And here's where the answer may be surprising,
16:58 challenging,
17:00 and maybe even irritating to some.
17:03 The first century church created and planted
17:07 lay-led churches.
17:11 There was no such thing anywhere in the Bible
17:15 of a pastor being paid
17:18 to watch over a congregation
17:20 and lead it and do its work for it.
17:24 If you doubt that,
17:25 I'm gonna issue you that same challenge
17:27 that we tend to do to others in a prophecy seminar,
17:31 you know, usually when it comes to the Sabbath,
17:33 and people are having a hard time,
17:35 "Oh, Sabbath and Sunday, you know, what do I choose?
17:37 I thought Sunday was the Sabbath."
17:39 What do we usually tell them to do?
17:41 We say, "Go to the Bible.
17:44 Find one verse there
17:46 that says the Sabbath was changed to Sunday."
17:49 And we feel pretty confident about that
17:51 because we know no such verse exists.
17:54 Well, let's flip it now.
17:57 I'm gonna challenge us Adventists.
18:00 Find one verse in the Bible
18:03 that says a pastor was paid to stay,
18:07 and pastor and shepherd and take care of a church for.
18:11 Show one example, where the apostles did that.
18:16 And you can search from Matthew to Revelation
18:20 I doubt that you will find even one.
18:24 You say how?
18:25 How in the world did they exist
18:26 that's so foreign to what we do today?
18:29 Because the first century church
18:31 discovered the power of lay ministry,
18:36 so then it was crazy for us to stay here
18:39 and pastor this church
18:40 when there's so many unentered areas,
18:42 we'll raise up lay leaders in the form of elders,
18:47 and deacons, and others.
18:50 In fact, the first place you see this, Acts 6:7,
18:54 I don't have this printed,
18:55 you're actually gonna have to look
18:56 this one off.
18:58 Acts Chapter 6 is where I can find
19:00 the basic beginning of lay ministry
19:03 in the early New Testament Church.
19:05 And in Acts 6:1-7,
19:10 I wanna read this to you, okay?
19:12 Acts 6:1, the Bible says,
19:16 "Now in those days,
19:18 when the number of the disciples
19:20 was multiplying,
19:21 there arose a complaint
19:23 against the Hebrews by the Hellenists,"
19:25 that's the Greeks,
19:27 "because their widows were neglected
19:28 in the daily distribution.
19:30 Then the twelve apostles
19:33 summoned the multitude of the disciples
19:35 and said,
19:36 'It is not desirable
19:38 that we should leave the word of God
19:40 and that we should serve tables.
19:42 Therefore, brethren,
19:43 seek out from among you seven men of good reputation,
19:47 full of the Holy Spirit and wisdom,
19:50 whom we may appoint over this business,
19:52 but we will give ourselves continually to prayer
19:56 and to the ministry of the word.'"
19:58 Now I wanna pause here.
20:00 First century church in Jerusalem,
20:02 they had a ministry of distributing to the widows.
20:05 And apparently there was a argument
20:07 that broke out that the Jewish widows
20:10 and the Greek widows,
20:12 the Jewish widows were getting more.
20:14 And so when this dispute arose,
20:16 it says that the apostles did not say,
20:18 you know what?
20:20 We're gonna have to take care of this business
20:21 'cause something's going wrong.
20:23 They said, "No,
20:24 we can't take ourselves away from prayer
20:27 and the ministry of the word
20:29 of moving Christianity forward."
20:32 So we're going to raise up capable Christian leaders,
20:36 lay people, not apostle, lay people,
20:40 and we're gonna put them in charge of this ministry.
20:43 And here in Chapter 6,
20:45 this is eventually what will become known
20:48 as deacons today,
20:50 not simply people who collect an offering
20:53 once a week,
20:54 but people who are actually in charge of ministry,
20:58 and then in verse 5, it says,
21:00 "Their saying please the whole multitude.
21:02 And they chose Stephen, and they chose six others."
21:05 These were the seven deacons.
21:07 And what was the response?
21:08 The result is verse 7.
21:10 "Then the Word of God," did what?
21:13 "Spread,
21:15 and the number of disciples
21:16 multiplied greatly in Jerusalem,
21:19 and a great many of the priests were obedient to the faith."
21:24 Those early apostles discovered the power of the lay ministry.
21:28 And when they turned that over to those seven men,
21:31 those deacons, it said,
21:33 the Word of God spread rapidly and grew,
21:38 and then from here on out, notice what you see.
21:41 Acts 14,
21:43 "Paul and Barnabas appointed
21:45 elders for them and each church
21:47 and, with prayer and fasting committed them to the Lord,
21:50 in whom they put their trust."
21:53 What upon Barnabas do?
21:54 It was their practice to appoint elders.
21:58 When they planted a church or congregation
22:01 before they left,
22:03 they would train people who could pastor
22:06 or who would shepherd that particular group
22:09 they were known as elders.
22:12 So lay-led churches were created,
22:14 this freed the apostles to move on
22:17 to the next mission field.
22:19 Can you say amen?
22:20 Do you see what their strategy was?
22:23 You see why they turned the world upside down?
22:26 Again, you see in Titus 1,
22:28 Paul wrote,
22:30 "The reason I left you in Crete," Titus,
22:32 "was that you might straighten out
22:34 what was left unfinished
22:36 and appoint elders in every,"
22:38 not just every church, but now,
22:40 "every town as I directed you.
22:43 Since an overseer is entrusted with God's work,
22:47 he must be blameless."
22:49 Now notice this one.
22:51 Apparently, Paul wasn't able to finish
22:53 what he did in Crete.
22:54 And he told Titus,
22:56 I need you now to appoint lay leaders
22:58 to these groups that were raised up.
23:01 That was their strategy.
23:04 Paul didn't say Titus.
23:05 Hey, you know what, hold on.
23:07 I'll be back to be the shepherd of these groups.
23:09 He didn't say that.
23:11 He said, "I want you to raise up lay leaders."
23:14 Paul and the apostles
23:16 would not be taken out of the mission field.
23:20 Now if we're honest,
23:22 is that different from what we do today?
23:24 Yes or no?
23:25 It is. 1 Peter 5.
23:28 Even if Peter did this, he wrote,
23:29 "To the elders among you, I appeal as a fellow elder,
23:33 a witness of Christ's sufferings
23:35 and one who also will share in the glory to be revealed.
23:38 Be shepherds of God's flock that is under your care,
23:42 serving as overseers not because you must,
23:45 but because you are willing."
23:48 Here's Peter saying,
23:50 "We've got to raise up elders, they are overseers."
23:53 You ever wonder why
23:55 when it came to every nominating committee,
23:56 you got to pick elders and deacons
23:58 and everybody turns to those verses
24:00 that describe what are the qualifications?
24:03 Do you ever wonder
24:04 why are those standards so high?
24:07 Why do the standards have to be high for someone
24:09 who's just going to sit on the platform
24:11 and do a couple of announcements?
24:13 Why their standard is so high
24:15 when someone's going to collect an offering once a week?
24:18 Because that wasn't the job description
24:19 of elders and deacons.
24:21 They were actually the pastors of the church.
24:24 See what I do today
24:26 as even though I'm an evangelist now,
24:28 what I do today as a pastor,
24:30 that's what the elders of the first century did.
24:33 That's why those standards were so high.
24:37 It wasn't 'cause they were just looked at
24:38 as the assistant of the pastor.
24:41 They were the pastors of the church.
24:45 I can see some of your faces you're like,
24:47 "Okay, this is too much for me."
24:50 But it's the biblical way that they did ministry,
24:53 elders were the overseers.
24:55 We need willing lay leaders today,
24:58 paid clergy did not pastor a church.
25:00 The people who were paid with the tithe
25:02 were the ones who were sent as itinerant evangelists
25:06 to raise up churches.
25:08 The pastors would say,
25:10 the apostles like why in the world
25:12 would we come here
25:13 and pastor and shepherd a church,
25:15 when there are already capable lay people here?
25:18 To them that was a crazy idea.
25:21 And so the New Testament Church
25:23 believed in the priesthood of all believers,
25:26 that God had gifted everyone for some type of ministry
25:31 that everyone was given a spiritual gift,
25:33 which is what we believe,
25:35 as an Adventist Church today.
25:37 That's why Peter wrote in 1 Peter 2:9,
25:40 "But you are a chosen people,
25:42 a royal priesthood, a holy nation,"
25:46 what do you call them?
25:48 "A royal, what?
25:49 "Priesthood."
25:51 Now in the Old Testament,
25:52 who did ministry in the Old Testament?
25:55 Priests.
25:56 Priests were your mediator,
25:58 only priests went into the sanctuary,
26:00 that's who you brought your sacrifices to.
26:03 In the New Testament, God says,
26:05 "No, everybody's a priest.
26:08 Everybody can go to God directly.
26:10 Everybody has been called to do ministry."
26:13 That's what the New Testament Church did.
26:16 So here's the two things
26:17 that we've learned this morning.
26:19 The two things that church did
26:21 that turned the world upside down
26:22 is number one,
26:24 the clergy or the apostles planted churches
26:26 in the unentered fields.
26:28 And when they did it, they created lay-lead churches.
26:32 That was the strategy
26:33 that turned the world upside down.
26:36 And so the question is,
26:38 why are we doing it differently today?
26:44 Now you're probably
26:46 one of the most biblical churches
26:47 in the Iowa Missouri Conference
26:49 because you're closer to that model
26:50 than just about all the others.
26:52 And I realize that
26:54 some of you probably have different opinions about that
26:56 because we have grown up in the last 70 years
26:59 within North American Division we have grown up thinking,
27:02 "Oh, every church has to have a paid pastor."
27:07 But then you look at the New Testament,
27:08 it's like, "Wow,
27:11 according to first century Christianity,
27:12 it's the exact opposite."
27:16 Before we end this morning,
27:18 there's a question we do have to answer.
27:21 You may wonder,
27:22 "Well, I see what the New Testament says."
27:25 But obviously, it didn't stay that way
27:27 throughout the Middle Ages.
27:29 Something happened
27:30 where the New Testament Church lost its sense of mission,
27:34 where it was seeking and saving the lost.
27:36 And in a brief summary,
27:37 I'm gonna show you how it happened
27:39 because when you understand how it happened,
27:42 it may become very, very shocking to you.
27:46 "After the apostles' died,
27:48 apostasy crept into the church."
27:51 You know, Paul wrote that when he left
27:52 ravenous wolves would come
27:54 and he knew false teachings would come
27:56 into the church.
27:57 That's why basically
27:58 all the books of the New Testament,
28:00 you know what they basically are?
28:02 By the way, how many books are there in the New Testament?
28:04 Little quiz here, 27.
28:06 Almost all of them are basically letters
28:10 that were written to Christian churches
28:12 that had been raised up
28:13 because false teachings were already going there.
28:15 And Paul and Peter and the others
28:17 had to deal with it.
28:18 Well, Peter and Paul knew that when they died,
28:21 more false teachings would come in,
28:24 but more than that,
28:26 false structures on mission would come into the church.
28:31 He said, "What are you talking about?"
28:33 In the second century,
28:34 a shift began to take place
28:37 where instead of the clergy going to the unentered fields,
28:42 they began, Rome began to take them
28:45 and settle them over churches
28:47 in things that would be called parishes.
28:52 You know what's another word for parishes, districts,
28:56 and mission die
28:59 because now they went
29:00 from planting churches in unentered areas
29:03 to being the primary caregivers and babysitters
29:07 of congregations and lay ministry die.
29:12 "By the council of Nicea in 325,
29:15 the clergy started gaining greater power and authority."
29:19 You ever seen the Middle Ages,
29:20 who was all the focus on in the Middle Ages?
29:24 The clergy, the priest forgave sins,
29:27 the priests provided the sacraments,
29:30 the priest was the one who led the mass,
29:32 the priest was the one who taught the people,
29:35 lay people were supposed to just go to the mass,
29:39 receive sacraments, and give money to the church.
29:43 All the focus was on the priests.
29:45 That's why they didn't want the Bible
29:46 going out to the people.
29:48 So here's what you see, clergy are the educated ones,
29:51 only clergy can preach, only clergy performed ministry,
29:55 only clergy do sacraments,
29:57 they were called priests
29:58 and they were placed over parishes.
30:02 And you know who did that?
30:04 You know who was instrumental in doing that?
30:07 Rome.
30:08 The very power
30:10 that we as prophetic interpreters
30:13 call the beast.
30:15 Not only did false doctrines come from Rome,
30:18 but Rome was responsible
30:20 for the early Christian church losing its mission,
30:24 and then what happened?
30:25 "Constantine's was converted in 321."
30:27 You know, he was the emperor of the Roman Empire.
30:30 They ruled, you know,
30:31 a good part of the world at that time.
30:34 When Constantine converted to Christianity,
30:36 we would think that's great.
30:38 We're no longer being persecuted.
30:40 Christianity is not illegal anymore.
30:42 We've become the state religion,
30:44 we are accepted.
30:46 It was the worst thing that ever happened
30:49 because not only did Constantine bring
30:50 pagan teachings and here's what happened.
30:53 When the emperor becomes a Christian,
30:54 guess what everybody else does in the empire.
30:57 You wanna become a Christian.
30:58 They wanna get in good with the emperor.
31:00 So now it becomes a state religion.
31:02 The whole Roman Empire is now Christian.
31:05 So guess what?
31:07 There's no more mission field in their eyes
31:09 'cause everybody's a Christian now.
31:12 So take the clergy now
31:14 who don't need to plant any more churches.
31:16 And we will place them now in parishes or districts,
31:20 and they will be the primary caregivers
31:22 and all the focus will be on them
31:24 and the lay ministry doesn't need to do anything.
31:29 That sounds like Christianity today.
31:32 So I'm gonna ask you a hard question.
31:35 Today in the 21st century, who are we follow?
31:39 Rome strategy of settled parishes
31:43 or the New Testament Church creating lay-lead churches?
31:48 See as Adventists we say to other people,
31:49 and they learn about Sunday and the Sabbath
31:51 and all these other things.
31:52 We say, "Hey, don't follow the beast."
31:55 But when I as an Adventist say, "No, I want my own pastor.
31:58 No, I don't like this lay-led thing."
32:01 If I know that comes from Rome,
32:04 am I following the beast?
32:07 As much as someone
32:09 who chooses to ignore the Sabbath over Sunday.
32:13 When I learned where it came from,
32:16 to me that was shocking.
32:19 And what eventually changed it was the Protestant Reformation.
32:23 And I wanna basically end with this
32:25 'cause we'll move into part two in the afternoon.
32:28 It was Luther, who said,
32:31 he didn't believe
32:32 that the priest had power to forgive sins.
32:35 He said go directly to God.
32:37 He didn't believe the priest was the only one
32:38 who could understand the Bible.
32:40 He didn't believe the priest was the only one
32:42 who could do the sacraments and do ministry,
32:44 he began to turn towards lay people to say
32:47 anyone can go to God, anyone can read the Bible,
32:50 anybody can share the gospel with others.
32:53 That's why they hated him.
32:55 Now the reformation didn't totally change
32:57 the role of the clergy.
32:58 They didn't send them out to be church planters again
33:00 like they did before, but it started the process.
33:03 And it wasn't until the 1800s
33:05 when Revelation predicted
33:07 one more final remnant movement,
33:10 which will be the Advent Movement.
33:11 That would be the movement
33:13 that would send clergy to plant churches again,
33:16 create lay-led congregations,
33:18 and would fully restore
33:19 the priesthood of all believers.
33:22 And so this afternoon, I wanna show you
33:24 how the early Adventist Church began?
33:27 What did they do in ministry?
33:31 And what happened to change things
33:32 'cause something changed
33:34 because we're not doing today
33:35 what the early Adventist Church did in the 1800s.
33:38 So we're going to do the same thing
33:39 we did this morning,
33:40 except our focus is gonna be the early Adventist Church.
33:45 What I wanna leave you with is this.
33:48 In your heart, you may dream,
33:50 I wanna church that's centered on mission
33:53 that is seeking and saving the lost.
33:56 And the truth is
33:57 we could all look at our local churches and say,
33:59 "Oh, I see a problem here. I see a problem here."
34:02 But, friends, the truth is, we need a revival of mission.
34:06 And before revival of mission can happen in a church,
34:10 it's got to happen in individual heart.
34:13 Are you ready to say Lord Jesus,
34:16 create a revival of mission in me?
34:19 Ellen White wrote long ago,
34:21 those who would be overcomers
34:23 must be drawn out of themselves.
34:25 And the...
34:26 Oh, notice, the only thing
34:28 which will accomplish this great work,
34:30 and it's got nothing to do with diet
34:32 or any of our other pet peeves.
34:34 She said,
34:35 "The only thing to accomplish that work
34:38 is to become intensely interested
34:41 in the salvation of others."
34:43 Today, it is your part to say, Lord Jesus,
34:46 I am asking you to help me become intensely interested
34:51 in the salvation of others.
34:57 This morning we learned what it was
34:59 that the early New Testament did
35:01 that actually change the world and turned it upside down.
35:05 And one of the things that we learned
35:07 is they understood what their mission was.
35:10 They did not exist simply to be some social club
35:13 and build some great big institution
35:16 inside of Jerusalem,
35:17 but they actually went and the two things they did
35:20 is the clergy or the apostles
35:22 were sent to the unentered areas
35:24 to all these towns and villages to plant churches.
35:27 So they were always moving forward.
35:29 And the churches they planted were lay-led churches,
35:34 they raised up elders and deacons,
35:36 they took care of that local house church,
35:38 they evangelized their own territory
35:41 while the apostles went to new areas.
35:44 And that is how the first century church made
35:46 such a difference in the world in which they live,
35:50 but then we also saw that during the Middle Ages,
35:53 that emphasis,
35:54 that focus on mission stopped
35:57 because when a religious system
35:59 came out of the Roman Empire,
36:01 it would be a system that would then kill
36:04 the idea of mission.
36:05 And since the whole Roman Empire
36:07 became Christian,
36:08 it was no longer necessary to send clergies
36:10 to unentered towns because they were none left.
36:13 And so they took the clergy,
36:15 put them into parishes over churches,
36:19 where they became the primary caregivers
36:22 and babysitters of that congregation
36:24 and lay ministry die.
36:27 And it stayed that way for over 1000 years
36:30 of the Middle Ages,
36:31 until the 1800s came
36:33 and Revelation's final end time movement began
36:37 that we would know as the Advent movement.
36:40 And so this afternoon,
36:42 we're going to look at
36:43 how the early Adventist Church began?
36:46 What was their sense and focus of mission?
36:49 How did they operate?
36:50 What was their structure like,
36:52 and how is it that this small group of people
36:55 made up of folks
36:57 from all different denominations?
36:58 How in the world could they grow
37:01 in less than 200 years
37:03 faster than other denominations
37:04 that had been around for even thousands of years
37:07 from the latter part of the Middle Ages?
37:09 Because the Advent Movement did something different.
37:13 It was meant to be a lay-driven,
37:16 non-pastor dependent movement.
37:18 And they pretty much functioned and structured their church
37:22 almost exactly the same way
37:25 that the early New Testament Church did.
37:28 Clergy, the few Adventist ministers
37:30 that there were in the beginning,
37:31 they were sent to unentered areas
37:33 to raise up churches,
37:35 and the churches that were raised up
37:36 basically became lay-led.
37:39 And this happened for three basic reasons
37:41 that you can see in the screen.
37:43 One, was the early Adventist Church,
37:45 they understood why they existed.
37:49 They knew that they were not just to be
37:51 another denomination among hundreds of others.
37:55 They recognize
37:56 they were the last end time movement.
37:58 They recognize that Jesus said
38:00 to take the gospel to all the world,
38:02 and they realize that in Revelation 14,
38:05 when it came to the three angels' message,
38:07 it was the go to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people
38:11 and they understood
38:13 they were to be constantly moving forward
38:16 'cause this is going to be the final movement
38:18 for the gospel on the face of the earth.
38:21 The second reason
38:22 was the guidance of Ellen White.
38:24 You know, when this group of Advent people
38:27 began functioning
38:29 and wondered how can we take this message
38:31 to the world,
38:32 God blessed them with the gift of prophecy
38:34 through Ellen White.
38:35 And we're gonna find out this afternoon
38:38 is she said a lot of somewhat surprising things
38:42 of how the church,
38:44 early church was supposed to function.
38:46 Some things we've heard before,
38:48 and maybe some things that we've never heard
38:50 that might actually challenge us
38:52 because she was a great advocate
38:55 of church planting and having lay-led churches.
38:59 And a third and final reason
39:00 which may be new to some of us was their roots in Methodism.
39:05 Many of the early Adventist pioneers
39:07 came from a Methodist background.
39:10 And one of the things that the Methodists did
39:12 through John Wesley
39:14 is they had what was called class meetings,
39:17 which was basically small groups in people's homes.
39:20 That's one of the things Wesley had done.
39:23 And so what happened
39:24 is people who became Christians,
39:25 or were thinking of it,
39:27 they would meet in people's homes.
39:29 And in these class meetings,
39:30 they would learn what it meant to grow
39:32 as a Christian and in their spiritual journey.
39:35 And all of those class meetings were led by lay people.
39:39 So when many of them join the Advent movement,
39:42 the idea of Lay ministry was something
39:45 that was already ingrained within their psyche.
39:48 And so those are three of the reasons
39:50 the Adventist Church did what they did in the beginning.
39:53 Now what I wanna do is I'm gonna read to you
39:56 a quote that describes
39:58 what the early Adventist Church did
40:00 for the first 60 to 70 years of its existence,
40:04 just notice how their ministry is described.
40:06 It says,
40:08 "For the first 60-70 years of its existence
40:12 the Seventh-day Adventist Church
40:14 had an itinerant clergy."
40:16 You know, you know what itinerant means?
40:18 They didn't stay in one place.
40:20 They kept going from one city and town to another.
40:24 It goes on to say,
40:25 "Their main function was to raise up churches
40:29 and give oversight to many local congregations,
40:33 who primarily cared for themselves.
40:36 There were no," what?
40:39 "Settled pastors
40:40 who were the chief care givers for the local church.
40:43 In this sense the structure was very similar
40:47 to that of the first century church."
40:50 And that comes from a book called
40:52 "Recovering an Adventist Approach
40:53 to the Life and Mission of the Local Church."
40:56 I want us to notice a few things there,
40:58 it specifically says that the pastors,
41:01 the few ministers
41:02 there were in the beginning of the movement
41:04 'cause in the beginning there weren't that many.
41:06 They were itinerant evangelists.
41:08 They were sent to unentered areas
41:10 to raise up new groups of believers,
41:13 while churches basically functioned
41:15 being lay-led.
41:17 And so very purposely,
41:19 the early Adventist Church follow the pattern
41:22 that we learned this morning
41:24 from the early New Testament Church.
41:26 That was not by accident.
41:28 That was not by chance.
41:30 They did that on purpose
41:32 because isn't if the remnant movement,
41:34 supposed to be like the original.
41:37 Can you say amen?
41:38 And so they took mission very, very seriously.
41:41 They knew
41:43 they were not just another denomination,
41:47 that it was actually very rare
41:49 that a pastor would come and preach
41:51 to a local congregation in the first 60-70 years
41:55 because all the pastor's time was spent
41:57 planting churches and in evangelism.
42:00 Now they might see a pastor, maybe once a quarter,
42:04 you can imagine that.
42:06 A pastor once a quarter.
42:08 You say what,
42:09 how did they function like that?
42:11 What did they do for a church service?
42:14 They had what Ellen White called
42:16 the social meeting.
42:18 Now how many of you are familiar
42:19 with the term social meaning?
42:22 Get some Ellen White wrote about
42:23 even over 100 years ago,
42:25 what would happen is the early Adventist Church,
42:28 they would have a Sabbath school
42:29 just like we have today,
42:31 but when there was no minister
42:33 who had preached a sermon,
42:34 which was on most Sabbaths,
42:36 what they would do
42:37 is they would basically have a social meeting,
42:39 which was like a testimony time,
42:41 and that's where people would just stand up and share
42:44 how they were growing in the Lord
42:46 or share their trials.
42:48 And people would pray with them together.
42:50 They would share what they were learning
42:52 their Christian journey,
42:53 and it was a time just for fellowship and bonding
42:56 because the early church did not sense
42:59 that they had to have a sermon every single week,
43:03 people simply shared their testimonies.
43:06 And Ellen White speaks a lot
43:08 about how the Holy Spirit moved within those social meetings.
43:13 In fact, the most,
43:14 you know, when the most time was
43:16 that Adventist believers would actually hear
43:18 an Adventist minister, guess where it was?
43:21 You're right. It was at camp meeting.
43:23 It wasn't in the local churches
43:25 because even camp meetings in the early church
43:28 were totally different.
43:29 Today when we do camp meeting,
43:31 probably 90% of the people who are there are what?
43:35 They're Adventists, probably more than 90%.
43:38 Back in the early Adventist Church,
43:40 it was just the opposite
43:42 camp meeting was actually meant to be
43:44 an evangelistic endeavor.
43:46 During the day,
43:48 the messages were for the Advent believers.
43:51 In the evenings and on the weekends,
43:53 there were actually evangelistic messages
43:56 for the community
43:57 that people were supposed to bring individuals too.
44:00 So even camp meeting function in a mission-centered
44:04 an evangelistic way 60-70 years ago.
44:09 In fact, when you do some research in 1903,
44:13 there was what's called the California Conference.
44:16 Now today, California is broke up
44:18 into four different conferences,
44:20 but back then there were all one conference.
44:22 And so in the California Conference
44:24 in 1903,
44:26 when they received a request from a group of believers
44:29 to send them a minister, this is what, what happened.
44:33 Instead of sending them a minister,
44:35 if they've learned that there was an area
44:37 where there was already
44:38 a significant number of Advent believers,
44:41 they would not send a pastor there.
44:44 They believe that the Advent believers there
44:46 were capable of handling their own church
44:50 and being able to work
44:51 in a mission-minded way in their locality.
44:54 They would send pastors to areas
44:56 where there were no Advent believers.
45:00 Now today, it's just the opposite.
45:03 We would send a pastor to a place,
45:04 a new place
45:06 where there's already Advent believers.
45:07 And we would say,
45:09 "Oh, we can't send them somewhere
45:10 where there's no one to work with."
45:12 But the early Adventist Church saw in a completely different,
45:16 and a completely opposite way.
45:18 What would happen
45:20 if we started looking at things
45:22 in that manner
45:23 when there's a place
45:25 where there's already believers?
45:26 Yes, give them some training.
45:27 Yes, give them some encouragement
45:29 have someone they can talk to when necessary
45:32 to help with certain issues,
45:33 but for the most part,
45:35 clergy are sent to the unentered areas
45:37 that have no Adventist presence.
45:40 That's how it functioned in the early years.
45:44 Do you see a difference thus far?
45:46 I would hope so.
45:47 In fact, James White,
45:49 at one of the Advent conferences
45:51 when he was asked to describe
45:53 how the early Adventist Church did ministry,
45:56 notice the statement he made
45:58 in the Review and Herald from 1859,
46:01 now this is more than 150 years ago.
46:04 This is what he said, quote,
46:07 "We have no settled pastors over our churches,
46:11 but our ministers are all missionaries,
46:14 as were the early ministers of Jesus Christ."
46:18 Now when he says early ministers,
46:19 he's talking about the apostles
46:21 of the early New Testament Church
46:23 in the first century,
46:25 but he said, "They must be sustained,"
46:27 meaning the ministers,
46:28 "and God has made it
46:29 the duty of the church to support them,
46:32 as they go on their mission of love."
46:36 James White said 150 years ago,
46:38 we don't have settled pastors over our churches.
46:41 Our ministers are missionaries going to the unentered areas,
46:45 just like the early ministers of Jesus Christ,
46:48 just like those early apostles,
46:51 and they taught churches to be lay-led
46:54 so they can move on to the next town,
46:56 and so Adventism not only through James White,
46:59 but through the early pioneers,
47:01 they specifically followed the approach
47:04 of the early New Testament Church.
47:06 And see what struck me is
47:08 tithe was not used to pay clergy
47:13 to babysit churches.
47:15 Tithe was used to send people to the areas
47:19 that have no Advent believers.
47:22 Today, we do the opposite.
47:24 You know, we have certain formulas that say,
47:26 "Well, a church needs to have so much in tithe,
47:28 and then they can get a minister to themselves."
47:31 But early Adventist Churches
47:32 never looked at it in the sense,
47:34 "Boy, we got to give more tithe
47:36 so we can get a pastor for ourselves."
47:38 They return tithe
47:40 not because of what they could get
47:42 out of it,
47:44 but because they wanted to see the Advent message
47:46 go to the unentered areas.
47:48 They supported people they would probably never see
47:51 or maybe see perhaps once a quarter,
47:55 and what is the attitude of some churches today?
47:57 Well, if I don't have a minister,
47:59 I'm not gonna return my tithe.
48:01 And what we're really saying is,
48:03 I'll return tithe if I get something out of it,
48:07 but I'm not gonna return tithe
48:09 if it means supporting people
48:10 that I'm never gonna see in my life.
48:13 See, the whole mindset was completely different
48:16 in that early Adventist Church.
48:18 That's why they grew like wildfire
48:21 more than all these other denominations.
48:23 Now I don't say that in pride and arrogance,
48:26 but there was a very distinct difference
48:28 in the way the Adventist Church did ministry
48:31 as compared to the rest of the Christian world.
48:34 And actually, the secular world noticed this
48:38 because one of the premier evangelists
48:40 back in 1886,
48:41 was a man named GB Starr, he was an Adventist evangelist,
48:46 and he was asked to do a newspaper interview
48:49 because the world was noticing
48:51 how this Advent movement grew in 40 years, okay?
48:56 The Advent movement started,
48:57 you know, somewhere around the 1830s, 1840s
49:00 so by 1886,
49:02 they're noticing
49:03 how fast this small group of people
49:06 is growing
49:07 and how this message is spreading.
49:09 And so when a newspaper interview
49:11 was done with Elder Starr,
49:13 this was how he answered the reporter's questions.
49:17 The reporter said,
49:19 "By what means have you carried forward
49:21 your work so rapidly?"
49:24 And then Elder Starr said, "Well, in the first place, "
49:28 replied the Elder,
49:29 "we have no settled pastors."
49:33 Are you noticing that theme over and over again,
49:35 in these quotes?
49:37 "Our churches are taught to take care of themselves,
49:40 while nearly all of our ministers
49:42 work as evangelists in,"
49:44 what kind of fields?
49:46 "New fields."
49:47 Remember the California Conference,
49:49 they wouldn't send a pastor to a place
49:51 where they're already believers.
49:52 Why?
49:53 Because they functioned as evangelists in new fields.
49:56 And so as the secular newspaper is noticing this in 1886,
50:01 Elder Starr is telling them, this is what we do different.
50:05 We don't send pastors to look over churches,
50:08 like other denominations do.
50:09 We teach, we raise up lay-leaders,
50:11 we teach them how to be lay-led
50:14 to take hold of the mission in their territory.
50:17 And we send the few clergy that we do have
50:20 into the unentered areas,
50:23 totally different
50:24 from the rest of the Christian world,
50:26 but totally in sync
50:28 with what the first century church
50:29 did 2000 years ago.
50:32 In fact, Seventh-day Baptists
50:35 were amazed at the growth of Seventh-day Adventists.
50:39 Now Seventh-day Baptists and Seventh-day Adventists,
50:42 their movements basically came into being
50:45 around the same time,
50:46 but Seventh-day Adventists far outnumbered
50:49 Seventh-day Baptists.
50:51 And Seventh-day Baptists wanted to know why?
50:53 Because they both share the idea of the truth
50:56 of the seventh-day Sabbath.
50:58 So why would one group of Sabbath keepers
51:00 be growing so much faster
51:02 than another group of Sabbath keepers.
51:05 And so when they interviewed Adventists
51:08 this is what Seventh-day Baptists wrote
51:10 in their own paper about Seventh-day Adventists.
51:13 Quote, this was from 1909.
51:16 They wrote,
51:18 "All Seventh-day Adventist clergymen are," what?
51:21 "Missionaries
51:23 not located pastors
51:25 and they are busy preaching and teaching
51:27 and organizing churches the world over."
51:31 So not only is the secular world
51:33 noticing this,
51:35 other denominations are realizing,
51:37 "Wow, this Advent movement is growing so fast
51:40 because they are doing something radically different
51:43 from the rest of the Christian world."
51:46 Now it wasn't radically different
51:48 in the sense that
51:49 that's what the first century church did,
51:51 but remember the Middle Ages,
51:53 all that was lost sight of
51:55 and Rome took their priests and made them over parishes
51:59 and that's the Protestantism did
52:01 even after the Reformation,
52:03 pastors were put into districts.
52:06 And the Advent movement, as far as I know,
52:09 was one of the first major movements
52:11 who rejected that
52:12 and went back to the New Testament model
52:15 of the first century.
52:17 That's why you read how they turned their world,
52:20 basically, upside down.
52:23 Now you may wonder
52:24 will did Ellen White have anything to say about this
52:27 because this was during the time
52:28 when she was alive.
52:30 God gave her many visions and dreams
52:32 about the direction
52:33 that this Advent movement should go.
52:35 And so you'll find
52:37 she said a lot of straightforward statements,
52:40 some of them very bold statements
52:42 about church planting, and lay-led churches.
52:46 I wanna share a few of them with you.
52:48 She wrote,
52:50 "My heart has been filled with sadness
52:53 as I've looked over the field and seen the barren places."
52:57 That mean places with no Adventist presence.
53:00 "What does this mean?
53:02 Who are standing
53:03 as representatives of Jesus Christ?
53:06 Who feels a burden for the souls
53:08 who cannot receive the truth till it is brought to them."
53:11 And then she says,
53:13 "Our ministers are hovering over the churches,
53:16 as though the angel of mercy was not making effort
53:19 to save souls.
53:21 God holds these ministers
53:23 responsible for the souls of those who are in darkness."
53:26 And then she writes,
53:27 and she's really talking to ministers now.
53:29 So this is really directed at me.
53:32 "He does not call you to go into fields
53:35 that need no physician.
53:37 Establish your churches with the understanding
53:40 that they need not expect the minister to wait upon them
53:44 and to be continually feeding them.
53:46 They have the truth, they know what truth is.
53:50 They should have root in themselves.
53:52 These should strike down deeply,
53:55 that they may reach up higher and still higher.
53:58 They must be rooted and grounded in the faith."
54:02 Wow!
54:03 That's 1901 she wrote that.
54:06 And so she was actually concerned
54:08 that there was so much energy
54:10 on churches,
54:11 people that already know the truth,
54:13 while the barren fields are being neglected.
54:16 See around 1901
54:18 what was happening is
54:20 now some of the churches were starting to demand
54:22 that they wanted to have their own minister.
54:25 They were starting to look out into the Christian world.
54:27 And even though they were growing,
54:29 they were starting to see wow,
54:31 you know, these other popular groups,
54:33 these other popular denominations,
54:35 they have their own settled minister,
54:37 well, we wanna be more like them
54:39 because then people will be more accepting of us.
54:42 And so when there was this call to be like the other churches,
54:46 and still in the early 1900s,
54:48 Ellen White started writing against that
54:51 because she knew the minute we took the clergy
54:54 out from being evangelists in unentered areas,
54:56 and settle them over churches.
54:58 She knew that the mission focus
55:01 of the Advent movement would die.
55:03 She knew that by the Spirit of Prophecy.
55:06 In fact, she felt so strongly about that
55:08 she puts it this way.
55:10 She said,
55:12 "There should not be a call
55:14 to have settled pastors over our churches,
55:17 but let the life-giving power of the truth
55:19 impress its individual members to act,
55:23 to carrying on an efficient missionary work
55:25 in that locality.
55:27 As the hand of God,
55:29 the church is to be educated and trained
55:32 to do effective work.
55:33 Its members are to be the Lord's devoted,
55:36 Christian workers.
55:38 The church is too one-sided."
55:41 That's pretty straightforward, isn't it?
55:43 I mean, she comes right out,
55:45 and she's answering this call
55:47 about we need to have pastors
55:48 in districts like other churches,
55:50 she said there should not be a call
55:53 to have settled pastors over churches
55:56 because she recognized
55:57 that when that happens not only will mission die,
56:01 but the spirituality of those churches
56:04 will also die
56:06 because what would happen if as a parent,
56:09 you did every single thing for your child,
56:12 and you never let them learn anything,
56:15 you never let them learn how to walk,
56:18 or how to feed themselves, or go to the bathroom,
56:21 or to make decisions about themselves
56:23 and you just totally hovered over them.
56:25 And you never taught them to do anything on their own.
56:28 What would happen to them when they became adults?
56:31 Well, mentally they would never become adults,
56:34 they would almost become,
56:35 you know, lifelong perpetual infants.
56:38 And God knew the same is true for the church.
56:41 And that's why He spoke through Ellen White,
56:43 "There should not be a call to have settled pastors."
56:46 He knew what would happen to the idea of mission.
56:51 You see how visionary Ellen White was,
56:54 always pointing to the lay-led churches
56:57 telling them we cannot be like other churches
57:00 because Christ's coming
57:02 is not 2000 years down the road,
57:04 this is the final movement,
57:06 we have to do things different.
57:09 And she didn't make any bones about saying that.
57:13 In fact, she made a quote
57:16 as to what ministers should do if they are in an area
57:19 where there are Advent believers?
57:20 This is what she said they should do.
57:23 She wrote, "Let the minister devote
57:25 more of his time to educating than to preaching.
57:29 Let him teach the people
57:31 how to give others the knowledge
57:33 they have received.
57:34 In laboring
57:36 where there are already some in the faith,
57:38 the minister should at first seek
57:41 not so much to convert unbelievers,"
57:43 imagine that,
57:45 "as to train church members for acceptable co-operation."
57:50 Hi. This is David Klinedinst.
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