Participants: Shakeela Yasuf
Series Code: DOA
Program Code: DOA000009
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00:41 As-Salaam-Alaikum to our Muslim brothers and sisters,
00:45 shalom to our Hebrew cousins, 00:48 and peace be upon you our Christian friends. 00:50 Welcome once again to "The Descendants of Abraham." 00:54 We are blessed by your presence with us today. 00:57 Today we have a special guest, 00:59 his name is brother Shahbaz 01:01 and I've heard his story 01:05 and I'd like him to share that story with you. 01:07 I'd like you to welcome Brother Shahbaz with me today. 01:11 Salaam, brother Shahbaz. Ma-Salaam. 01:14 You know when I heard your story 01:17 and thank you, thank you for being with us today. 01:19 I really appreciate it. 01:21 When I heard your story I was so impressed. 01:25 Why don't you start with telling us 01:26 a little bit about yourself? 01:28 Well, I was born in Iran 01:34 and grew up in a Muslim family 01:38 and I was always, as a young boy 01:43 I remember, may be about 3 or 4 years old, 01:45 I was always a very spiritual child. 01:48 I was pretty religious and I was not fanatical 01:52 or anything, you know, I was too young for all that, 01:54 but I was just so, 01:58 the concept of God was so important to me 02:00 and I wanted to know this God. 02:03 And this is the God of Abraham, right? Absolutely. 02:05 Because when we are young, 02:06 we know the God of Abraham. Absolutely. 02:08 Well, tell us a little bit about that journey? 02:11 Well, you know, this desire continued with me. 02:16 And I recalled even when I was 7 years old 02:22 we were staying in my father's-- 02:25 he had a summer, he had build a summer home 02:27 in north of Iran, in the Caspian coast. 02:31 And one night we were there for a vacation 02:34 and one night we were going to watch a television program, 02:36 a movie called 'The Robe.' 02:39 It's an American production. Yes, I've heard of that, yes. 02:43 And you know, this is back 02:45 before the revolution of in Iran in 1979, 02:48 at that time you know you watched 02:50 a lot of American films on television. 02:53 And in that film, in one particular scene, 02:56 they showed Jesus hanging on the cross. 02:58 Of course the movie wasn't about Christ, 03:00 the movie was about the soldiers that crucified Jesus, 03:03 there's the whole movie was about them. 03:06 And one of the soldiers turned and said 03:08 this man had died for the world, 03:10 and those words were the most precious words 03:12 I've ever heard in my whole life. 03:14 Seven years in this world and I was 7 years old 03:18 and when I heard those words, 03:19 I fell in love with Jesus. 03:20 How can it be that this great prophet 03:22 would die for the world. 03:23 I've never heard about that before 03:25 that He had died for the world. 03:26 And as Muslims we didn't believed that 03:30 Jesus had died for the world, 03:32 but I was not prejudiced against that at 7 years of age. 03:36 The concept was so precious, I fell in love with Him. 03:39 Oh, amen. 03:41 You know, so you watch and like you said, 03:44 you just see the feet at that time. 03:48 So when you heard this, did you even know 03:52 who He was, we're brought up to think of Him 03:55 as a prophet as you said, 03:56 but did you know anything else about Him 03:59 and what was it in your heart, 04:03 in your mind that impressed you to search it out. 04:07 Well, I only knew what I was told 04:11 that He was one of the great prophets, 04:14 one of the five great prophets 04:19 and that was it, that He was the one, 04:23 the prophet that was very kind prophet 04:25 and I knew that, but not much more, 04:28 now He was just great. 04:29 And--but this particular knowledge of Him 04:35 dying for the world, 04:36 although the movie never did say, 04:37 why He died for the world, 04:38 they just said this man died for the world 04:41 and I didn't know, I would not find that out 04:44 for another 11 years. Oh, really. 04:48 You know, it's amazing 04:50 because the more of our people that I talk to, 04:54 I find that it takes years of knowledge of learning, 04:58 you know, and the same thing happened to you. 05:00 Now I remember you told me that 05:03 you've experienced a lot of miracles 05:05 and one of the many miracles that you've experienced 05:09 was with your brother. Yeah. 05:12 Can you tell us a little bit about that? 05:14 Well, of course, in passing of time 05:16 and by 1979 I am about 13 years old 05:21 and we left Iran, we came to United States 05:24 because of the 1979 revolution, 05:26 my parents decided to move to United States. 05:29 Things were getting really bad 05:31 and they felt that even our lives may be in danger, 05:34 although we were not politically involved in anything, 05:37 it's just things were dangerous, so we moved to United States. 05:40 We were fortunate enough to be able to do that. 05:44 and I recall when I was 17 years old, 05:48 we were living at that time in California 05:51 and one day we were in my living room. 05:55 At the time one of my brothers, 05:57 unfortunately became sick, he became schizophrenic. 06:02 And as you know schizophrenia is a very complex, 06:04 mental illness 06:06 and he had to take very heavy medication 06:09 to control him and he wouldn't take his medication then 06:13 and I knew if he doesn't take his medication, 06:15 we're going to have a whole lot of problem on our hand, 06:17 and he's going to possibly become even violent, 06:20 and then we have to call the police. 06:21 My mother was begging him, my brother has begged him, 06:24 my sister and myself, he would not listen. 06:26 For almost two hours he would not listen to anyone of us. 06:29 And he wouldn't even talk to us, he ignored us. 06:32 Finally in desperation I decided 06:34 that I needed to do something, so I wanted to pray. 06:37 I prayed as a Muslim would pray. 06:39 And at this time you were still a Muslim? 06:41 Absolutely, yeah, I am still a Muslim, 06:43 I am 17 now at this point 06:45 and I was sitting and I went to the dining room table 06:48 and sat there and I prayed 06:50 and I prayed for I think 15, 20 minutes. 06:54 I was so desperate that I wanted him to take it, 06:56 so I prayed that Lord would intervene 07:02 that my brother would take his medication 07:04 and we don't have to go through all that trouble with him. 07:07 And nothing happened and I was so desperate, 07:09 I was about to give up 07:11 and I put my head down and I didn't know what to do 07:13 and suddenly this thought came to my mind. 07:16 I had never thought of that ever before that time, 07:18 it was a foreign thought to me, 07:21 but the thought was, pray to Jesus. Really? 07:25 Why would that thought come to my mind? 07:26 Because I had never prayed to Jesus, 07:29 and why would I now pray to Jesus 07:31 but the thought had so much force to it 07:34 that I had to obey it 07:36 because and I was also desperate, 07:38 so I prayed a very simple prayer, 07:40 I didn't know how to pray. 07:41 How did you feel when that thought came to your mind that, 07:43 like 'what pray to Jesus?' You know how do you feel? 07:46 Yeah, I remember that question come to my mind, 07:50 pray to Jesus? 07:52 But the thought was so powerfully 07:56 put in into my mind that I obeyed it. 07:59 And I quickly prayed, yeah, abololutely. 08:01 And I said, well, I'm not going to go wrong praying to Jesus, 08:04 obviously He's in heaven so and so I prayed and I said, 08:10 Jesus please make my brother take his medication 08:13 and I looked to over to my right shoulder, 08:16 because that's where my brother was 08:18 from my position 08:19 and I immediately looked, 08:21 it was like, when I said that prayer, 08:23 I was also telling, now look to your brother 08:25 and I looked, instantly he got up 08:28 and he went to the quick kitchen 08:29 and I tip toed around the corner and I followed him 08:32 and then I looked around the corner, 08:34 and sure enough, he took his medication 08:36 out of the refrigerator, 08:37 poured it in the cup and took it. 08:39 Just like that. Just like that. 08:41 And I was saying, wow. Jesus is powerful. 08:47 One prayer to Jesus 08:49 and immediately my prayer was answered. 08:51 And that also was a significant experience that I had. 08:56 Well thank you for sharing that. Praise be to God. 08:59 What was your mom around your anyone, 09:02 any of the other family members were around the corner? 09:03 Everybody was around and I didn't say 09:05 a word about it to anyone. 09:07 And they didn't see what was going on. 09:09 No, they didn't know that I had prayed to Him. 09:12 I kept that bottom level of my own heart, 09:14 I didn't know how to talk about it. 09:16 Right. Praise be to God. 09:18 Now you told me also that you had an experience 09:23 shortly after that. 09:24 When was that, in your bedroom 09:26 when you went and lock yourself in your bedroom. 09:29 Yes, well, by this time I am 18 years old, 09:33 as a year has passed since I've experienced. 09:35 My mother, because my parents 09:38 basically went bankrupt in United States, 09:42 everything that they had, they lost. 09:43 So my father went back to Iran, 09:45 my mother joined him and actually took my brother 09:48 who was sick, with her and they moved back to Iran 09:52 and myself and my siblings we stayed here, 09:55 because there was a war in Iran with Iraq 09:58 and it was dangerous for us to go back, 10:00 we'll be drafted so we decided we are going to stay 10:05 and we were living in Walnut Creek at that time 10:07 and we were all working, we had different jobs 10:12 and it was first time really working anywhere, 10:14 up to that point my parents paid for everything. 10:16 Now I was working in a restaurant and I remember 10:21 one night, friends from work 10:23 told me, you want to go out? 10:25 You know, I had been 10:27 a very good boy up to that point. 10:29 You know, my mother said, come home at 10 o'clock, 10:31 I would come at 10 o'clock. 10:33 I didn't argue and I didn't go and stayed late and stuff 10:36 and I chose my friends carefully, 10:38 but now my friends say, let's go out. 10:40 And one of the things you know, being brought up Muslims, 10:43 we--that is something that we are taught, 10:45 right, you be obedient, be obedient to your parents. 10:48 You're never disobedient to the parents, 10:51 whatever they say, you do it. 10:52 It's part of our- 10:53 You don't cross them. You don't cross them. 10:55 You obey them, you honor them 10:56 and you respect them and it is part of your culture 10:59 and you must do that. 11:01 It's a sin. Right. Yes, it is. 11:03 And so I went out and I had no idea 11:09 what was going to happen. 11:10 I went out I thought it's just a simple go out and, 11:13 boy I was in for some awful stuff I've never experienced 11:16 in my life before and I participated 11:18 in some things that I had never participated 11:22 in and I didn't come home till 6 in the morning. 11:26 And when I got home, nobody was there, 11:28 my other brother was spending time with his friends, 11:31 my sister spent the night at her friend's house 11:34 and my other brother was out as well 11:35 and I came home really down and depressed. 11:38 I went to my bedroom, went to laid in my bed, 11:41 and I couldn't sleep. 11:43 And just a guilt of my sins of that previous evening 11:46 was just bothering me so much and I just prayed 11:49 and I decided I am going to ask God to forgive me, 11:52 and I prayed and I said the word, 11:55 the Arabic word for 'I repent' 11:57 which is 'astagfirullah' and I said that repeatedly. 12:01 And as a Shia Muslim when you sin, 12:04 you say the word astagfirullah repeatedly 12:07 and often you inflict pain upon your body in order to gain 12:11 the forgiveness of God, so I began to bite my hand, 12:14 like this and I was biting my hand 12:17 with every 'astagfirullah' I had one bite afterward, 12:20 and I did that may be 30, 40 or 50 times. 12:24 My hand was hurting but I felt no relief. 12:27 Then I began to do the same thing to my tongue, 12:29 every time I said 'astagfirullah' 12:31 I would bite my tongue, 12:33 and I did that for another 30, 40 times. 12:35 My tongue was swollen and it was red 12:37 and I could feel the pain, but I found no relief. 12:40 I felt that I needed forgiveness, 12:43 I felt that this burden of this sin was crushing me 12:46 and I just threw down everything that I knew up to that point 12:50 as a Muslim and I began to pray 12:53 from my heart for the first time. 12:55 I never prayed that well before. 12:56 And I plead with God that He would forgive me and I wept 13:00 and I wept for, I think in space of 10 minutes 13:05 and suddenly as I was praying, 13:08 crying and asking for forgiveness, 13:11 it felt like somebody appeared in my room, 13:13 you know somebody was present in my room with me, 13:17 I could not see the presence, but I felt the presence 13:20 it was so powerful, it was so intense. 13:23 It was filled with so much love and peace, 13:25 the atmosphere was thick with the presence of this person 13:29 that I could not see, and a living person 13:33 that I felt there is not enough room for both of us, 13:36 somebody got to leave, and you know who left? 13:38 I did. I ran out of the room went into the bathroom. 13:41 I thought I am hallucinating and I threw some water 13:45 on my face, tip it toed back to the bedroom and sure enough 13:49 the atmosphere was still thick with that presence 13:51 and I couldn't go in and I went back to the bathroom 13:54 another series of splashing my face with water. 13:58 Went back into the bedroom and he was gone. 14:00 And then when I realized my guilt has gone, 14:06 the burden has fallen off. 14:08 I don't feel the guilt of sin anymore, 14:11 for that particular sin. 14:13 You know, there's often people 14:15 would ask me, well who do you think that was? 14:17 I believe it was Lord Jesus Christ. 14:20 And I believe that He didn't come to forgive my sins 14:24 of the past, He simply came to give me 14:28 a sample of what sin-forgiving when we truly repent means. 14:33 Though I did not pray in the name of Jesus, 14:36 I really I am convinced that God will hear the prayer of anyone, 14:42 anyone who comes to Him, they may not know better. 14:46 Remember the Bible says, in the times of ignorance God 14:49 winks at our sins and I was ignorant, 14:52 I didn't know in the name of Jesus Christ I must pray. 14:56 But God honored me, because I was desperate 14:59 and from that point, moment on my experience changed 15:02 because now I had experience something 15:04 I had never experienced before. 15:05 Anything before that suddenly became meaningless. 15:09 Now it's interesting because being 15:12 from the same background as such, 15:16 you were asking for forgiveness of sin but really 15:20 it was a sin of disobedience to your parents and so on. 15:28 At that point probably not even realizing 15:30 the full extent of what sin is. 15:32 But asking for the forgiveness 15:37 that you disobeyed your parents. 15:41 At that time did you become 15:45 a follower of the God of Abraham? 15:47 No not quite, I had some more. 15:53 God had to take me through a few more bends and twists 15:56 and stuff to really bring me to the foot of the cross. 15:59 And these were series of experiences that God 16:03 was working in my life and bringing me closer 16:05 to that experience and well, after this experience 16:10 I realized that my prayers had become meaningless. 16:13 I would pray and my prayers would go no higher 16:15 than the ceiling over my head and I didn't know 16:18 what to do and I began to in desperation, seek after God. 16:22 And you were still praying the way we learned how to pray. 16:24 Absolutely. I had my Salat prayer, 16:26 my Muslim prayer and then after my Muslim prayer 16:29 I would have my heart prayer, because my mother always said, 16:32 after you have your Salat, which is the name 16:35 for the Muslim traditional prayer, 16:38 offer a heart felt prayer from your heart in your mother tongue 16:41 and not in Arabic because we speak Persian. Right. 16:44 And I would do that and none of that worked, 16:47 I felt that God is not there anymore 16:50 and I didn't know what to do, and I was desperate 16:52 and I wanted to find Him and I didn't know where to go, 16:55 therefore I felt the best place I can go, 16:58 there were no mosques, no priests 17:00 that I could go to talk to, so I went 17:02 to my Christian friends and I said, 17:04 can I talk to your pastor, can I talk to your priest? 17:09 That's impressive- Yeah and my Christian friends 17:10 were secular and their parents went to church they didn't, 17:13 so they never really cared about what I said. 17:16 Right. And you actually are going to them and saying, 17:18 take me to your pastor, take me to your priest 17:21 or whoever it is, your imam. Right. 17:23 Absolutely. I need to talk to them. 17:25 What happened at that point? 17:27 Well, that never come to fruition and suddenly 17:31 I tell you this, the same time 17:33 with all my siblings and myself 17:35 we all lost our jobs in one week. 17:38 God allowed that to happen. Yes. 17:40 And then within a month we lost our apartment, 17:43 and we were homeless. 17:45 And now we are out on the streets. 17:47 I can't call my mom and dad in Iran and tell them 17:50 that I am homeless because my mom would have probably 17:51 had a heart attack and now I am homeless, 17:55 I have no money but more than anything else 17:57 I've lost God in my life, so now I am desperate 18:01 to find God until one day my brother calls me, 18:04 I was staying at a friend's home and said, 18:08 Shahbaz, we met a Christian guy out in the street saying things 18:12 that we've never heard before, 18:13 may be you want to talk with him, 18:14 may be he can help you with your depression and your search. 18:18 So the ext day I went and met with him and he came over 18:22 to me and I was expecting an angel to come to me, 18:24 I didn't know who was I expecting, 18:26 but there's a very average looking guy with plaid shirt 18:29 and blue jeans, walked up to me 18:31 and I greeted him and he greeted me. 18:33 And I began to tell him what was happening to me. 18:36 At this point I saw myself trapped in an iron box, 18:43 or a concrete box of some sort, no windows, no doors, 18:47 absolute darkness in my mind and depression. 18:51 I am not a depressed person. Right. 18:53 And he began to break the bread of life to me. 18:56 He spoke of no denominations. 18:58 He simply talked to me about Jesus Christ and Him crucified. 19:03 And he began to tell me why the blood of Jesus Christ, 19:07 the Lamb of God is the blood that is needed to cover my sins 19:11 and forgiveness that I need is in Him only. 19:13 And as he began to speak to me and as we walked down 19:17 main street, Walnut Creek, the walls began to crumble 19:20 and come down in this box. 19:22 It was like somebody had this sledge hammer 19:24 and he was breaking it all down. 19:26 Light began to flood my soul and within 10 minutes 19:30 he knew I'm a Muslim, 10 minutes down the road, 19:34 he stopped and I stopped, I still know where that spot 19:37 is and it's precious to me. 19:39 And he said to me and I get emotional about this, 19:42 I am sorry but he said to me, 19:44 "Will you give your heart to Jesus?" 19:48 He knew I am a Muslim and he knew just about 19:50 the quarter mile up the road, seven other Muslims, 19:54 my friends are sitting in a café waiting for me, 19:57 he had no fear of any of that. 19:59 And He said, "Will you give your heart to Jesus?" 20:01 And I said, "What do I do?" 20:04 You know, check it out to that point the evening before 20:07 I had decided, I will meet him, he will bless me and then 20:11 I will do him the greatest favor that he can ever have, 20:14 I would turn him into a Muslim, 20:16 that was my plan, that I will convert him. 20:19 Yes. You thanking him, you're going to thank him. 20:21 Yes, thank you for your blessing. 20:23 Now you need to know about Islam. Right. 20:27 But that never came to fruition and he said, 20:29 will you give your heart to Jesus and I had no other option, 20:32 I was fully surrounded by the power of God. 20:37 How can you deny, how can you say anything at that point, 20:40 I had found complete redemption and he said let's pray, 20:46 he took me to discern his prayer. 20:48 He read a verse in the Bible and I opened up my eyes 20:51 and he opened up his eyes and he said, 20:53 congratulations you are a Christian now. 20:55 I am! He said, and I looked all around me 20:58 and I looked at the trees, the trees were greener 21:01 than they had ever been before and I looked at the blue sky, 21:03 it was bluer than ever before. 21:04 Everything came alive. Everything came alive. 21:06 Even ugly people were beautiful now. 21:08 And I ran to the café all the way to the café 21:11 and I said, friends, I told all my Muslim friends, 21:14 guess what, I am a Christian now. 21:16 I thought that they all would be happy. 21:17 They said what? What are you talking about 21:19 your Muslim now, but you know 21:21 it was an experience I can never forget. 21:24 We can't. We can never expect, 21:26 we can' forget those experiences. 21:29 Now one of the other things that I do want to ask you 21:34 about is this shaking experience that you had, 21:39 you know because I have something very similar 21:41 as we were discussing, you know, 21:43 our journey to the God of Abraham, 21:45 the true God of Abraham, not many Muslims 21:50 had that experience but you had it, 21:51 can you tell us a little about it? 21:53 Absolutely. I was-- this is few months 21:56 after that experience, finally the Lord blessed 21:58 us with an apartment in Oakland and so my siblings and I, 22:02 we moved into that apartment and this particular evening 22:04 we had a--we had a friend, I was over there and they began 22:08 to mock me for my conversion and they began to attack me 22:12 and literally it was terrible. 22:15 I went through a horrible experience with them 22:17 and they did not stop mocking me for almost 22:21 a space of 45 minutes or so. 22:24 Finally my brother fame over to me 22:26 and he grabbed me from the collar, 22:27 he lift me up from the ground and shook me, 22:29 so you are now, you have become crazy, 22:32 you are like our other brother, you have lost your mind, 22:35 what's this talk about Christianity, you are a Muslim. 22:38 And he threw me on the ground and I turned my face 22:41 from them and I wept, I have no feeling of hate 22:44 or anger or revenge in my heart. 22:46 All I wanted was for them to experience 22:48 what I had experienced. 22:49 And then I left, and I went to the bedroom 22:52 to pray and I prayed my prayer, simple prayer, 22:54 Lord takes this feeling from me. 22:57 I am trying to tell them about your love. 22:58 Please save them and take this pain from my heart. 23:01 I went to the bathroom, because the bathroom was the only room 23:04 that had the lock and I locked the door to be delivered 23:07 from their sneering and making fun of me and I leaned my elbow 23:11 on the counter in the bathroom just so I can relax 23:14 for a few minutes and then it happened. 23:17 This it was, as though the hand of God 23:20 went through my whole being, the shaking that took place 23:23 from the top of my head and went right through me, 23:25 and though it exited from my feet and suddenly 23:30 this absolute amount of peace, joy, love and the power of God 23:35 just took over me to the degree, 23:38 I did not fall to the ground, I did not start doing thing, 23:40 but I was just filled with this awe, 23:44 reverence and I began to weep like a baby. 23:47 I came out of the bathroom. 23:49 My sister said what's wrong with you? 23:51 And I just, I couldn't speak, 23:53 I did not speak till the next day. 23:54 I had no words to say. 23:56 And I went to sleep and I had the best sleep of my life. 23:59 And today do you know what that was? 24:04 Well what do you think? 24:05 I believe that the Lord gave me His anointing 24:09 and He took away my pain. 24:10 And instead God wants to bless us. 24:13 He wants us to have a brand new experience everyday 24:15 and He gave me a deeper experience 24:18 of His spirit than ever before. 24:21 And I tell you, you know, my brother 24:24 who shook me from the collar, I am glad to say 24:26 that he is now a pastor. 24:29 Now he serves the Lord. 24:30 My sister is baptized, serves the Lord. 24:35 My other brother is baptized, so the Lord 24:37 has touched my whole family. 24:39 Your whole family now has taken that holy journey. 24:42 All my siblings in the United States 24:43 have made that decision to follow the Lord. 24:45 Oh, praise God. 24:48 Praise God and it started with you? 24:52 Absolutely. It started with you. Praise God. 24:55 That is wonderful, Shahbaz. 24:58 You know, I would like you to take 25:03 just a couple of minutes and say something to the people 25:07 who are watching this and listening to your story. 25:12 What would you like to say to them, 25:14 just look into the camera. 25:17 If I had anything to say 25:19 to all my brothers and sisters, all around the world. 25:22 I consider all my Muslim brothers and sisters 25:26 as my brothers and sisters, all my Jewish friends 25:29 are also my brothers and sisters 25:31 and all of the Christians out there. 25:32 Anyone that has not come to know the Lord Jesus Christ, 25:35 in a meaningful way, I want you to invite you to make 25:39 that decision, the Lord Jesus Christ 25:41 who touched my heart, and my life and who changed me, 25:45 I never- I was never in a position, 25:48 I never even thought that I would one day be a Christian. 25:51 That was not my-I never thought that would be my path, 25:54 but when the Lord Jesus Christ 25:56 called me to the higher experience 25:58 and He called me and I could not resist. 26:01 He is calling you today and you may be right now 26:03 experiencing what I've experienced. 26:04 May be you are in that depression, 26:05 may be you are in that dark space. 26:07 May be you are seeking for a greater experience with God. 26:12 And I want to invite you to come 26:14 and follow Jesus Christ even right now. 26:19 Thank you Brother Shahbaz. 26:20 My pleasure. And, you know, 26:23 brothers and sisters he, Brother Shahbaz 26:26 had a wonderful experiences, most of us have 26:29 and as you've heard his plead, 26:31 if you have any questions, 26:33 do please email us 26:38 and we will answer your questions. Thank you. 26:41 When you get to the Descendants of Abraham, 26:44 you can be sure that you're lighting the way 26:47 for all in search of the Creator God 26:49 and His message of love and forgiveness to all nations. 26:53 Thank you for your support and for your prayers. 26:57 All contributions are tax deductible. 26:59 Please visit us online today at www.descendantsofabraham.org 27:05 or write to us at the address you see listed on your screen. 27:08 All correspondence will be kept confidential. 27:12 Friends, Brother Shahbaz will be joining us again next week 27:15 as we discussed the subject of sin which is something 27:19 that he experienced and that as you heard 27:24 before the forgiveness of sin. 27:27 And we talked about, you know, not many people know 27:30 what sin is, so join us next week 27:32 as we together discuss that subject of sin. 27:36 And don't forget write to us, email us, 27:39 go to our website, www.descendantsofabraham.org. 27:44 And we would love to hear from you. 27:46 Tell us what you think of the program. 27:48 Tell us what subjects you would like to like us to discuss, 27:52 anything like that, okay. 27:54 So we would love to hear from you. 27:55 Sent your prayer request and we thank you 27:58 so much for joining us. 28:01 May God be with you the rest of this week. |
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