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to substitute for the advice
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Creation or evolution,
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design or random chance,
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they say it all
began with a big bang,
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but when we look at
the amazing human body,
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the answer is obvious.
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The complexity of the design
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exceeds anything
man has ever made.
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The body, it only
have been designed
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by the Master Designer
we read about in the Bible.
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Divine Design.
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Welcome to another
episode of Divine Design.
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In our previous episodes
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we took a close look at
the miracle of childbirth
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and yet still have not plumed
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the depths of
God's marvelous design
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in the
development of the human baby.
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We have seen that
only an all wise creator
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could have made
these things happen,
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for it would be
simply impossible
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for evolutionary processes.
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We have seen the importance
and value of prenatal care
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and steps to improve
pregnancy and birth outcomes.
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We have learned the
mechanics of labor and delivery.
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We also examined
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many of the
benefits of breastfeeding
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and even warned about
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some of the
mystical new age practices
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in childbirth
that should be avoided.
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Hartland College has embraced
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the challenge of
educating young ladies
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in the field of childbirth
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and to practice midwifery
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according to the counsel given
as in the Spirit of Prophecy.
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In Medical
Ministry, page 61 we read,
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"Our institutions
should be especially thorough
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in giving to women a training
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that will fit them
to act as midwives."
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Our goal is to train
our young ladies God's way,
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so that they may be used
of the Lord as missionaries
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in this exciting
and challenging field.
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Join us in this final episode
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as Patti Barnes speaks
with Debbie Beihl OB-GYN
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in residency
about this high God.
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Romans 12 says,
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"I beseech you therefore,
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brethren, by the mercies of God,
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that ye present your
bodies a living sacrifice,
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holy and acceptable unto God,
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which is your
reasonable service."
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Jesus said, "When you've
done it to least of my brethren,
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you've done it to me."
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I have a special
guest with me here today
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that especially
agrees with this.
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Her name is Dr. Debbie Beihl
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and she is a residence OB-GYN
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physician practicing
in Reading, Pennsylvania.
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It's right.
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And you also have some
training at Loma Linda,
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tell us about that?
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So I graduated last year
from Loma Linda medical school,
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it's a privilege to be there.
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Okay.
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And what's your background?
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So I went
through a nursing school
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at Southern
Adventist University.
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And really appreciate
that a rich background
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that nursing gives
me in the medical field.
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Okay, very good.
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So where do you see
goals and your future career?
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So as a OB-GYN my
passion really is helping people
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make lifestyle
changes during pregnancy
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and continuing on
to have those changes
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after they give birth to
raise that child up really
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to be healthy and to know God.
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And so my passion is
both lifestyle change
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during pregnancy
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and helping people find
power in that through God.
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Yes, so do you have like
a systematic step approach
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or study guide, or
how would you go by?
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To help people
make lifestyle changes
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and really find God's power
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to make those
changes in their life
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something's that have
really been helpful for me
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in doing that is first of all
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being in
relationship with the patients.
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Yes.
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Finding out where they
are at in their walk with God,
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where they are at in
their healthy lifestyle choices,
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and then really
relying on the Holy Spirit
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to guide in
conversation and helping them
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find strength in their family,
in their support systems,
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and most of all through
God to make those changes.
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Without Him it's impossible.
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That's right.
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So that's a really,
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that's a best
approach, isn't it?
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It's right.
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How would you say that your...
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I know you're a sincere
Seventh-day Adventist Christian
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and how would you say
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your faith will
impact your future career?
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So for me,
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I believe Jesus is
coming really soon.
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And I believe
that this is actually
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part of the end time message
that we have to give to people
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to turn the hearts of
fathers to their children
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and children to their fathers.
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And I think that prenatal care,
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helping people have healthy
lifestyle at that critical time
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when many people are
opened to change is really
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interlock in that.
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And just a couple
of things that I found
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because people often
know what they need to do.
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Yeah.
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But they find it so difficult
to actually make those changes.
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I don't know if you've
seen that in your experience.
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Yeah, yeah.
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People that need to stop smoking
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but often people find
that when they are pregnant
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that they have strength
to do that sort of change.
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People that need to
make changes in their diet
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for the health of their baby.
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And I found that
over and over that
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people need strength
from outside themselves.
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They need more
powerful motivator than often
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they find in their own lives.
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And for me the
most powerful motivator
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I've seen over and over and over
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in my patients lives is instead
of being motivated by fear,
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being motivated by love.
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Yes.
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And love for that child,
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love for the child that
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they are developing inside them,
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love for their child
once they give birth.
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I had a lady that
came into my office,
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I'll call her Jo
for this illustration.
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And she, we had prayed
together at the prior visit.
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And she came in the next
time and said, "You know,
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out of love for my
child and out of love for God
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because of the
strength we had in prayer,
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I stopped smoking."
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So I find that we...
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When we find
that love for others
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then it gives
people power for change.
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Motivation. Yeah.
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That's what you
need. That's right.
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Amen. Amen.
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But I believe there's a
more powerful motivator than
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even love for your
child in making change.
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I believe that love for God
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because of you knowing
God's love for you is actually
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even more powerful
motivator for change.
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Yes, and they need to know that.
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They need to know that.
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And they know that by
the way we care for them.
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And most of all by
beholding God's love, you know,
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you see that God
gave up heaven for us,
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He gave up the
society of holy angels,
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His father's presence.
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And He came to a
world that rejected Him,
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didn't appreciate what He did
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and took the death
of a criminal basically,
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and that's self sacrificing love
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that by beholding we have
that love developed in us.
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And that's the sort of
love that gives us power
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to be able to stop
smoking when we're pregnant.
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To continue that change
on after we deliver the baby,
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to make change in our diet,
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and by knowing
that love personally
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in relationship with God daily,
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it gives us
strength to make that change.
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Yes, He does.
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Could you expound on
that a little bit about
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turning the hearts of
the fathers to the children?
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Yeah, Patti, it's
really interesting
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in Malachi 4:5 and 6, it says,
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"Behold, I will send
you Elijah the prophet
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before the coming of the great
and dreadful day of the Lord.
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And He shall turn the hearts
of the fathers to the children
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and the heart of the
children to the fathers."
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And I think it's
really fascinating
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because Elijah
was the forerunner...
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Yes.
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Of Christ
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and we see the work
of John the Baptist.
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He was doing that same
work of preparing the way
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and that's what
we're called to do now,
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to prepare the way for
Christ to come the second time.
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And we see that interlock
on this is the work of turning.
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Initially it says the hearts
of the fathers to the children
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and then it says the hearts
of the children to the fathers.
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I think the reason it
puts the fathers first is that
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they have a
responsibility to God,
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to turn the
hearts of their children,
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and one of the
ways they can do that
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is by the influence that
they have prenatally, okay.
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Yes.
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And I think
that's really critical
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because it affects children.
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It affects them mentally,
spiritually, physically.
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What happens during pregnancy?
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It has long term
affects on all those areas.
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And I think it's really critical
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and that's what
makes me really excited
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about the work of
OB-GYN, midwifery,
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Christian physicians in helping
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family unit to be restored
to what God has called it to be
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and to help ultimately prepare
the family for Jesus to come.
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That is our goal.
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That is our goal.
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You know, what's
interesting, Debbie,
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is now we almost
had our brother here.
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He is a pediatric resident
in Loma Linda University.
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And his schedule got
changed the last minute.
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But fortunately we
have Debbie with us
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but I was interested,
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you know, both
of you went in to,
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he went to pediatrics,
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you went to OB, what
were your thoughts so,
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what drew you this way?
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So we both have a similar
passion for sharing Jesus
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through the practice of medicine
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because Christ was on earth,
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He did a combination
of preaching, teaching,
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and healing.
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And that's what He
calls His followers to do.
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So we have a special interest
in the early years of life
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when people are
impressionable for God's kingdom
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when they can develop
habits of healthful life
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and come to close
relationship with God.
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I think that
OB-GYN transitioning
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into pediatrics is a
perfect combination for that.
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So do you have goals
to, may be working together?
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Absolutely.
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Okay, that would be perfect.
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You know, we're
fortunately here,
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we were able to
start a midwifery program
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and we're praying,
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hopefully in the future to
have a birthing center here.
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Wouldn't that
be wonderful? Yeah.
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Where the Spirit of
Prophecy and it's Bible based,
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what a outreach we can have?
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Absolutely.
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With the
childbirth and evangelism.
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And I'm hoping, you know,
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Lord willing we'll have
a professional team here
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like yourself and your brother.
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And what are
your thoughts on this?
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I think it's exciting
to see what the Lord can do
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through the influence
of Christian midwives,
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Christian
healthcare providers...
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Yes.
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And I'm excited to see
what God's going to do.
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What a strong, what a
strong force it would be
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for the Lord's work.
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You know, although we've
been talking that, Pattie.
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It just reminds me
of a verse in 1 John 4,
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it says, "Beloved,
let us love one another
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for love is of God and everyone
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that loveth is born
of God and knows God."
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And then over in Chapter 5:4,
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"For whosoever is born
of God overcometh the world
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and this is the victory
that overcometh the world,
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even our faith."
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And it just reminds me
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everything we've
been talking about
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how as Christian
physicians and midwives,
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we can refill God's love.
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How that love can
become a powerful motivator
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for change in the
life of our patients?
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How they can have
that victory through faith,
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to deny themselves to doing
what's right for their babies,
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so they can have a
close relationship with God
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so that child can
have that experience.
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Amen.
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I'm really excited
what God's gonna do.
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Yes, I'm too.
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I just can't wait to see
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what doors He's gonna open next.
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Absolutely.
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I just had a quote I thought
was really cool to share.
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It says, "The
mother who is a fit teacher
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for her children
must, before their birth,
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form habits of
self-denial and self-control,
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for she transmits to
them her own qualities,
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her own strong or
weak traits of character.
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The enemy of souls
understands this matter
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much better
than do many parents.
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He will bring
temptation upon the mother,
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knowing that if she
does not resist him,
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he can through
her affect her child.
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The mother's
only hope is in God.
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She may flee to Him
for grace and strength.
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She will not seek help in vain.
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He will enable her to transmit
to her offspring qualities
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that will help them to
gain success in this life
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and to win eternal life."
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It's Mind,
Character, and Personality,
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page 124...
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That is a wonderful quote.
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I think it just
reminds me of the power
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that as Christian
midwives and physicians
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that we can have
to help our mothers
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find that hope in God
and that power for change...
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Amen.
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And to bring eternal life
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to their children both during...
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What a responsibility?
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Absolutely, absolutely.
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Well, we have
been blessed so much
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with our visitor here today.
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And I hope you have as well.
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I just ask for your
prayers for our future.
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I know God hasn't
brought us this far to leave us
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and I believe He's
gonna finish a good work.
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So I'm asking please pray
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as we continue
our building project
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for our future birthing center.
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And I really thank
you for being here today.
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