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- Welcome everyone.
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We're excited to share
some country wisdom with you.
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- King Solomon had
a thing or two to say
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about the path to wisdom.
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In Proverbs 4, he wrote,
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"Let your eyes
look directly forward
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and your gaze be
straight before you.
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Keep straight the
path of your feet,
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and all your ways will be sure."
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- Join us now
for "Country Wisdom."
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It's sure a beautiful
day out here, isn't it?
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- Oh man, this is great.
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I could just, I wish
we brought a picnic here.
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I could just stay out here.
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We've got lovely
cloud cover. Beautiful.
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- Makes me kind of
think of the Sea of Galilee,
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you know, I mean-
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- A little bit smaller.
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- We've, yeah, a
little bit smaller.
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(Janice laughing)
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We filmed on the Sea of Galilee.
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- Oh, I'm jealous.
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- I even had the privilege
of filming one of the boats,
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or kind of like the
boats that the disciples used.
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- [Janice] How did
they compare - size?
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- [Jim] This is tiny of course,
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you think about 12 disciples
and Jesus fitting in one
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and you know, they had room
to knock around a little bit.
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But there's a, it really
brings to mind something about,
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you know, Jesus,
they'd worked hard all day.
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They'd been doing a
lot, and they're tired.
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They're really tired.
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Jesus, he's God,
but he's man also,
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and he wants to relax.
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So he comes down to the shore.
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He said, "Let's get in the
boat and go to the other side."
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Now it came to
pass on a certain day
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that he went into a
ship with his disciples,
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and he said to them,
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"Let's go over
to the other side."
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And I think about- -
[Janice] Do we have any idea
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how far that was?
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- [Jim] Well, I mean, you
can see the other side, but-
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- [Janice]
Having never been there,
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I don't know if you can -
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- [Jim] You can
see the other side,
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but it's quite a ways over.
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It's a big, I mean, it's
big enough that, matter of fact,
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they went out there, and
pretty soon the wind came up.
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And the wind, I
mean, it just whips,
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and comes off of those mountains
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and those hills and
begins to churn everything up.
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And it was so
big, matter of fact,
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that we're told the boat was
beginning to fill with water.
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- [Janice] So waves
were coming up over.
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- [Jim] Waves were coming in.
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And you've got seasoned
fishermen that are, they're
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bailing. I mean,
all these guys now,
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all 12 are bailing and
they're getting scared.
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Seasoned fishermen, been
out here all their lives.
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- [Janice] They were
probably pretty tough.
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That had to have
been one big storm.
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- [Jim] Yeah. One major storm.
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It, it's filling up so much,
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it actually says that they're,
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they're in peril of
the boat to sink. So.
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- [Janice] And they're way
too far out to swim to shore.
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- [Jim] Oh, yeah, yeah.
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- [Janice] If they
even knew how to swim.
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- [Jim] And I'm sure
they did. And I mean.
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- [Janice] Well, a lot of
English sailors throughout
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history were out on ships
and had no idea how to swim.
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- Yeah, that's
true. That's true.
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But these fishermen, you know,
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they're out in the
water a lot with their nets
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and everything else,
but they, they're out there.
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The boat looks
like it's going to sink.
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I mean, these guys are full,
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full water waves are
coming over the top of them
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and they're panicked.
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- I was just thinking, I would
be in full blown panic mode.
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- [Jim] Yeah.
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- You know how they say
we have a, a fight or flight?
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They've added another F
because it describes me.
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You don't
really, seriously, Jim,
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you do not ever want
me around in an emergency
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because I'll be
no good to anyone.
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I don't panic.
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Not externally anyway.
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I'm not one who's gonna be
screaming or getting in the way.
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I'm very calm.
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But I stand there
and pretty much it's like
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somebody needs to do something.
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I, it's not gonna be me,
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but it's like somebody
needs to do something here.
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I freeze. That's
the third F. Flight -
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Fight, flight or freeze.
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- [Jim] Freeze.
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- I'm the freeze.
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- [Jim] You fit in
the freeze category.
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- Ah, you got it.
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- Yeah. You know,
you, you think about this,
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Jesus stood on the shore and
said, "Let's get in the boat."
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They get in the
boat and what happens?
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- [Janice] Huge storm.
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- Major storm.
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And like these guys are going,
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- You would think
if Jesus were with you,
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everything would be smooth.
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- [Jim] Yeah.
That, that's exactly it.
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And that's what,
unfortunately, you know,
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I think a lot of people think.
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Well, you, you become
a Christian, you know,
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everything's roses. You
know, not necessarily. You know?
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- And as soon as
things aren't roses,
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they think God
has abandoned them
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or God isn't real after all,
how could he do this to them?
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- [Jim] Yeah.
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- I, I'm
guilty. There are times,
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and I've had a pretty good life.
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I've not had the
kinds of storms, you know.
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well there are, there
are storms that are physical,
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like out on the Sea of Galilee,
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but we've all had
storms in our own lives.
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- [Jim] Oh yeah.
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- And when I
look back on mine, I,
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I've had a fairly blessed life.
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But still, there are
times where my first thought is,
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why is God letting this happen?
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Where is He?
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- Yeah, exactly.
God, I'm your child,
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and why is all this
garbage happening in my life?
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- Why are you doing this to me?
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- Yeah. Yeah.
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So when that happens to you,
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and you probably have a
story or two, I'm guessing.
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(Janice chuckles)
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- Well, one that comes to mind,
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when we were in the
process of adopting,
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it's very different.
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When I had the
boys, you had a due date.
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You knew when this
was all gonna be over.
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With the adoption
process, you don't.
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It's like being
pregnant, but with no due date.
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And we had applied
originally to, to China.
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Wanted an infant.
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And at least twice, and I think
it was actually three times,
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we got phone calls saying,
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"Hey, it looks like
we've got a baby for you."
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Well, as soon as they say that,
I'm out buying baby clothes,
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it's like, it's happening.
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And then,
something would go wrong.
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I remember in one case,
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Steve and I had been
open to medical problems
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and other couples
aren't. You've got some
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who don't wanna deal
with any medical issues,
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but we thought,
he's a physician.
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We know all
kinds of other doctors.
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We would be in a
very good position
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to handle anything medical.
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And in this case,
her eyes were crossed,
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which is like hardly even a
problem. That's so easy to fix.
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And we were number one on the
list of a prospective parents
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who were willing to
take any medical issues.
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So they called us, it was like,
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"Oh, this is gonna be wonderful.
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I've forgotten how many outfits,
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little pink
outfits I had waiting."
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Then they called back, it
was just a day or two later,
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and they said another couple
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who had not been open
to any medical issues,
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heard about her
somehow, and said,
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"Oh, well
crossed eyes, you know.
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That's, that's no big deal."
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They were higher up on the,
they were above us on the list.
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We happened to be the
first ones open to medical.
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They weren't, but they
changed their mind and said,
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"Oh, we'll take that."
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So they had to
call us back and say,
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"No, she's not yours after all."
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- And that was a
pretty big blow for you.
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- Oh my goodness.
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And I was just
literally devastated.
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It's like, God, why do
you keep letting this happen?
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You know, you get
our hopes up. And then,
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"Oh, sorry. Just kidding."
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And the emotions
that you go through
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was a storm inside me
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that I'm sure equaled
that storm on Galilee.
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And who am I blaming?
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God. - [Jim] God. Yeah.
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- It's like, how
could you let this happen?
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Why do you keep
letting our hopes get ruined?
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And I could not understand,
but just two weeks later,
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they called us about Aaliyah,
completely different country.
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She wasn't a baby.
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They were talking so fast,
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trying to get me to
not hang up and say,
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"Sorry, no, you say she's four?
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We said infant, if you look,
check the paperwork, infant."
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And the whole time, I'm
saying, "Sure, yes, yes."
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You know. "Well, she's, you
know, from Ethiopia, not China."
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No problem. "Well, she's
four years old, we think."
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No problem. You know, I
mean, two weeks before that,
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when I am, you know,
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curled up in a fetal
position on the couch,
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sobbing and going,
"Why, why is this happening?"
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And thinking my
life is just over,
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God knew already.
It's like, you know,
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if you'll just wait a minute?
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'Cause really, what's two weeks?
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That's, that's a minute in His,
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"If you'll just wait a
minute, I've got your daughter."
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You know? I just
couldn't see that far.
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But, you know, it's like those,
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those Google
maps that are up above
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when you're on the highway,
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and to you, it looks
like traffic is just gridlock.
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He's up there
going, "Oh, no, no.
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Just around the
corner. It it's clear sailing."
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- [Jim] Yeah. Yeah.
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(inspirational music)
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- I have a little pamphlet here
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called "Hope in Troubled Times."
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I don't know about you,
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but the times we're living
in seem pretty troubled to me.
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If I didn't have
the hope Jesus gives me,
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I couldn't get out
of bed some mornings.
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"Hope in Troubled Times" is
meant for that kind of morning.
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Inside its pages,
you'll find promises of hope
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straight from the Bible.
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Go to
TalkingDonkeyInternational.org
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and request offer number
129, "Hope In Troubled Times."
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- I can remember a
story with my wife.
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We had a real house
problem in a situation,
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and she desperately
wanted to get in a house.
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And we looked and
looked and we finally found.
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- Isn't house-hunting fun?
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- Yeah, house. We finally
found this little bitty house.
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I mean, it was a wreck.
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It, it was an absolute
dump. But, you know, we'd.
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- But you could afford it.
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- Yeah, we could afford it.
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And we, we'd fixed
up stuff, so no problem.
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So we put an
offer in on this house,
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and all of a
sudden somebody came in
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and just bought it
right out from under us.
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Janine was just devastated.
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It's like, "I'll never have -"
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I mean, I'm telling tales.
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- Cause she had her
heart set on that house.
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- Telling tales outta
school now on her, you know.
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But yeah, she had
her heart set on it.
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She just knew she was
gonna finally have a house
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and just devastated.
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"I'll never have a
house in my whole life.
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It's just life is over."
And honey, it's just a house.
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And it's just a house.
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And easier for the
husband to say, maybe.
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But you know, in
not too long a time,
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God brought us an amazing house.
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Just an amazing house.
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But it was down the
road a little bit, you know,
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And I think about the disciples.
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- Because he could see the road.
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- Yeah. I think
about the disciples.
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They're, they're
bailing, and all of a sudden,
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they see Jesus in
the bow of the boat.
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He is sound asleep.
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You gotta think about this.
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The boat is
filling up with water.
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The waves are crashing over.
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- I'm sure they were
yelling at each other.
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- [Jim] Oh, yeah.
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- Hey, grab that rope.
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You know, gimme
another bucket, whatever.
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It had to have been noisy.
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- Yeah, the lightning
flashes over, you know,
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they see him
there, sound asleep.
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And Peter, you know,
Matthew, Peter runs over.
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"Lord, wake up! Don't you
care? We're going to die."
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It's just, imagine those words,
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"Lord, don't you care?"
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- Why do our brains - or
our emotions, I should say,
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for me, it's like,
I'm total limbic system
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when I'm in a crisis.
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And it just feels like we
always go to that thought.
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God obviously
doesn't care about me.
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- Yeah. Yeah.
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It, we all find ourselves
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in that kind of
situation a lot of the time
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because it's a, it's
a trust issue. You know?
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But Jesus stood up,
got up, holds his hands up.
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You know, I, it'd be almost fun
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to try and do this
in here and stand up.
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- Please don't! I do not
wanna end up in the pond.
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- But he held his hands up
and says, "Peace be still."
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And billions and
billions of gallons of water
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on the Sea of Galilee just
smoothed out like a mirror.
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Probably something like this.
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- Oh, if you
look at it right now,
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the breeze stopped
and it's just glass.
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- It had been a raging storm.
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And they're going like, whoa.
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You know, there were
other boats in proximity.
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And they all come around close
all of a sudden and they say,
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"What manner of man is this?
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Even the winds and
the waves obey him."
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- Wouldn't you have
loved to have been there?
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I don't think I would
enjoy being in the storm.
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- I was gonna say, I'm
not sure I would've enjoyed
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being in the storm, you know?
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- But to see him, and I'm
sure he was not concerned,
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they are literally doing
this stationary panic, you know,
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and he just stands up.
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They didn't use the word
'chill,' but it was probably
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like, "Guys, you know, what
are you worried about? I've got
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this." - Well,
matter of fact, he says,
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you know, "you of
little faith." Little faith.
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They spend all
that time with Jesus.
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They watch all the miracles,
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all the
incredible things going on,
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and they blow it.
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- And they're sure
he's gonna let him die
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out on the middle of the lake.
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- That, you wonder how they
thought and felt afterwards.
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"Lord, don't you care?"
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You know, say that to our Lord.
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You know, Don't you care?
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- Well, Peter had
a number of things
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that he felt
guilty about ever saying.
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- Oh yeah, yeah.
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When you think Jesus is
on his way to the cross,
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because he cares so much.
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And you know, they've gotta
accuse him of, don't you care?
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- Because we have blinders.
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Like I said, that
analogy I said about being,
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when you're in the
middle of a traffic jam,
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all you can see are the
two or three cars ahead of you.
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And it seems like
this is gonna last forever.
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They stretch forever.
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But God has the
Google Earth perspective
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and he knows that, no. No,
it clears up. Right, Right out.
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Just beyond what you can see.
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- I like that. The Google Earth.
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(Jim laughing)
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He really does. He's
the creator of Google Earth.
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Right? He can.
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- And yet, over and over,
the amazing thing isn't that
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there are times
where I have faith,
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there are times where I
literally thought to myself,
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oh wow, you just did that okay.
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You, you didn't
panic right then.
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But the amazing thing is
that no matter how often I panic
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or how badly I'm panicking
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that he hasn't gotten
out of the boat and said,
00:14:05.54\00:14:07.54
"Okay, you know, you
still don't trust me.
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You're, you're how old
and you're doing this again?
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I've had it."
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And he doesn't do that.
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- That's what
this walk is all about
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here on the Earth, right?
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It, it's all
about learning each day,
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step by step to trust Him.
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Learning each day that
He is in the boat with us.
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And an amazing thing is,
what was that text I read?
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Let's get in the
boat and do what?
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- Go to the other side.
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- Go to the other side.
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- He didn't say
what might be in between.
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- Yeah. He didn't say
what was gonna be in between,
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but you're gonna get to
the other side. And I think -
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- As long as you're
in the same boat He's in.
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- Speaking of that,
00:14:43.08\00:14:44.38
we probably ought row a
little bit to shore here, but -
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- [Janice] You
want me to paddle?
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- Yeah, go ahead
and paddle a little bit.
00:14:46.58\00:14:48.58
But which end of of
the paddle do you use?
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- [Janice] No, I know which end.
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(Jim laughing)
00:14:53.12\00:14:54.16
It's, I, I don't
know, left and right.
00:14:54.16\00:14:55.22
And I have to always
stop and actually think,
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okay, which way do I
paddle. This way, right?
00:14:57.23\00:14:59.89
- Yeah. There
you go. There you go.
00:14:59.89\00:15:01.50
But you know, you
think about that is,
00:15:01.50\00:15:04.30
is Jesus knew before
they got in the boat,
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there was gonna
be a massive storm.
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Never said a
word to him about it.
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He chides them.
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- [Janice] That's always
where you put your (inaudible.)
00:15:13.24\00:15:14.54
- Yeah. He chides them a
little later about their faith
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and the situation
because they didn't have faith
00:15:17.61\00:15:20.65
while they were in the storm.
00:15:20.65\00:15:22.18
Kind of an interesting scenario
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that he was testing them
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really to see if
they would trust him.
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If they would trust him.
Because as we grow and trust,
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we grow in, in the things that
He can do in and through us.
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You know, when we
begin to trust Him,
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the Holy Spirit
comes into our life.
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He gives us
really - hit the edge -
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He gives us power
and He gives us strength
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to walk a little
further, do a little bit more.
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But you know,
these guys, it says,
00:15:53.08\00:15:54.88
it says the boat
immediately was at the shore.
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From that storm out
there, that raging storm,
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they're at the shore now.
00:16:02.79\00:16:04.29
And the guys get outta the boat.
00:16:04.29\00:16:06.73
Gonna be a little tougher for us
00:16:06.73\00:16:07.86
getting outta
the boat here, maybe.
00:16:07.86\00:16:08.93
- This is the best
spot you could pick?
00:16:08.93\00:16:11.03
- Yeah, this is the
best spot I could pick.
00:16:11.03\00:16:13.10
But they get out the boat
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and they begin
walking up the shore,
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- Can you imagine
how relieved they were
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to get out of the
boat, away from that storm,
00:17:34.42\00:17:36.89
and back on solid ground?
00:17:36.89\00:17:38.95
- But you know, now
they ran into another storm,
00:17:38.95\00:17:40.72
and they look
and they turn around.
00:17:40.72\00:17:42.22
- They did. They
hightailed it back.
00:17:42.22\00:17:44.29
- The disciples
get back to the boat,
00:17:47.30\00:17:49.53
they turn around, and
Jesus isn't with them.
00:17:49.53\00:17:52.07
- I wonder what they
were thinking in that moment.
00:17:53.44\00:17:55.37
Like, did that guy get him?
00:17:55.37\00:17:59.31
You know, what,
should we have stayed?
00:17:59.31\00:18:01.04
I wonder if feelings
of guilt and panic and -
00:18:01.04\00:18:04.11
- Yeah. I mean,
but they look around,
00:18:05.21\00:18:06.51
and there's Jesus up
the hill, at the graveyard.
00:18:06.51\00:18:10.05
- He hadn't run in
terror like they did.
00:18:10.05\00:18:11.82
- He hadn't run.
00:18:11.82\00:18:12.72
This story actually takes place.
00:18:14.86\00:18:16.56
We can find it in
Mark chapter five.
00:18:16.56\00:18:18.63
People wanna
follow along at some time
00:18:18.63\00:18:20.30
or go back and read
the story, it's amazing.
00:18:20.30\00:18:22.80
Because basically,
situation disciples, you know,
00:18:22.80\00:18:26.30
see Jesus up there
with this crazy man
00:18:26.30\00:18:28.57
who virtually chased
them back to the boats
00:18:28.57\00:18:30.81
because he came running
and yelling and screaming.
00:18:30.81\00:18:33.21
- That's why they turned tail.
00:18:33.21\00:18:34.48
And he wasn't just an
ordinary man running at them.
00:18:34.48\00:18:37.35
- Oh no.
00:18:37.35\00:18:38.45
- He had been
obviously living outside of town
00:18:38.45\00:18:41.02
for some time. He had
chains, they'd actually -
00:18:41.02\00:18:44.09
- Living outside of town. Yeah.
00:18:44.09\00:18:45.75
In the graveyard. Yeah.
00:18:45.75\00:18:47.12
- But he had chains
that he'd broken through.
00:18:47.12\00:18:50.26
This was someone
who, in his, in his craze,
00:18:50.26\00:18:53.50
that he had
actually pulled up chains.
00:18:55.60\00:18:57.50
I don't know how you do that.
00:18:57.50\00:18:59.40
- It's because you're possessed.
00:18:59.40\00:19:01.40
Matter of fact, we can
kind of look at this story.
00:19:01.40\00:19:04.01
And he called out to Jesus,
00:19:04.01\00:19:05.71
but he didn't even
have his own voice because,
00:19:05.71\00:19:08.91
says "What have we
to do with you, Jesus?"
00:19:08.91\00:19:11.48
- We, The plural.
00:19:11.48\00:19:12.88
- The plural, Yeah.
00:19:12.88\00:19:13.88
They're demons
speaking out of this man.
00:19:13.88\00:19:15.18
Now, people may not understand
there's a real conflict,
00:19:15.18\00:19:19.32
there's a real war going
on between good and evil,
00:19:19.32\00:19:22.19
but it's real. I
mean, it, it's scary.
00:19:22.19\00:19:24.83
I've been in some countries
that, that, I mean, boy,
00:19:24.83\00:19:28.10
it's right out in front
of your face. Good and evil.
00:19:28.10\00:19:31.10
No use to go into it today,
but, but suffice it to say,
00:19:31.10\00:19:34.60
when they're talking
about this man being possessed,
00:19:34.60\00:19:37.57
it was for real.
00:19:37.57\00:19:39.27
This guy is out
there, he's taking rocks,
00:19:39.27\00:19:41.31
he's cutting himself,
he's piercing himself,
00:19:41.31\00:19:43.91
doing all these things. You
know, he's bleeding everywhere,
00:19:43.91\00:19:47.12
running holes through himself.
00:19:47.12\00:19:49.28
Matter of fact,
00:19:49.28\00:19:50.25
it's kind of interesting because
00:19:50.25\00:19:51.55
the devil really
wants to deface humanity.
00:19:51.55\00:19:54.76
They wants to, they
want deface the image of God.
00:19:54.76\00:19:57.26
All the demons and the devil.
00:19:57.26\00:19:58.79
And I remember one
time we were in one country,
00:20:00.20\00:20:03.33
Maasai warriors,
Maasai witch doctor.
00:20:03.33\00:20:06.77
He found Jesus Christ.
00:20:06.77\00:20:08.60
And as I'm talking
with him and his wife,
00:20:08.60\00:20:10.31
wife is sitting
right there, sweet thing.
00:20:10.31\00:20:12.61
and all the other Maasai,
00:20:12.61\00:20:14.88
they've got all these
big piercings and holes
00:20:14.88\00:20:17.18
and through their noses and
everything and with the rings.
00:20:17.18\00:20:20.05
And I said, "Well, what
happened to all of that?"
00:20:20.05\00:20:22.82
He said, oh, he said, "As
soon as we accepted Christ,
00:20:22.82\00:20:24.99
we took all that off.
We got rid of all that."
00:20:24.99\00:20:28.06
Why? Because they
wanted to become like Jesus.
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They wanted that,
that likeness of Christ.
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- This man who was
living out amongst the tombs.
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I wondered back
then, did the disciples,
00:20:38.50\00:20:40.94
were people
weirded out by cemeteries?
00:20:40.94\00:20:43.27
The way - obviously we're
out, there are tombs around us.
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It's a cemetery,
clearly different
00:20:46.31\00:20:48.48
from what theirs
probably looked like.
00:20:48.48\00:20:51.51
There are some people
who wouldn't be caught dead,
00:20:51.51\00:20:54.02
you know, or.
00:20:54.02\00:20:54.92
(Jim laughing)
00:20:54.92\00:20:56.15
- Okay.
00:20:56.15\00:20:56.99
- Pardon the pun.
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Who, you couldn't
drag them into a cemetery
00:20:58.25\00:21:00.89
unless maybe it
was broad daylight
00:21:00.89\00:21:02.56
and a lot of
people were with them.
00:21:02.56\00:21:03.89
They have these ideas about,
"Oh, I don't want to go there."
00:21:03.89\00:21:07.30
Would the disciples
have had that same feeling?
00:21:08.53\00:21:11.30
- Oh, I'm sure there
were some of this superstition
00:21:11.30\00:21:13.37
and some of this
old thing hanging on.
00:21:13.37\00:21:15.57
You know, Jesus hadn't been able
00:21:15.57\00:21:16.71
to train them out
of everything yet.
00:21:16.71\00:21:19.11
- And I've always
wondered why was that man there?
00:21:19.11\00:21:22.91
What led him in his life
00:21:22.91\00:21:24.98
that he ended up
living out in the tombs,
00:21:24.98\00:21:26.92
having people
trying to contain him
00:21:26.92\00:21:29.75
so that he wouldn't either
hurt himself or hurt them.
00:21:29.75\00:21:32.45
- Basically, I think you can say
00:21:32.45\00:21:33.69
he wanted no restraints in life.
00:21:33.69\00:21:35.62
I mean, when they
chained him out there
00:21:35.62\00:21:37.03
to get him out of town
00:21:37.03\00:21:38.09
and try and keep him
someplace away from it,
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you know, he
broke every restraint.
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Well, I think that's a,
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a good way to say that's
the way he wanted his life.
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No restraints, no borders,
no walls, no restrictions.
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- I have sometimes, you know,
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you've probably had
this experience too.
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You're at the county fair
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or you're
walking down the street
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and you see someone who
has clearly had a hard life.
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You can tell the
look in their eye,
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or the blank look in their eye,
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it's like they're not all there.
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They're either on something,
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or they've lost a
chunk of their mind.
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- Oh yeah.
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- And yet my tendency is
the other side of the street
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because I don't know
how to approach them.
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There is a little fear
of people who are like that.
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- When I was kind of in the
old style and the old things,
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one of my favorite songs was,
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it was a song by
Steppenwolf that was
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"Walking Around With
Tombstones In Your Eyes."
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You know? - [Janice] Okay.
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- That, that really
is descriptive, I think,
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of what was
going on with this man.
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And he continues on and these,
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these demons basically
have a conversation with Jesus
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and they start conversing
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and the disciples are there to,
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to see everything going on.
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And Jesus said,
"Get out of this man."
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"Well, why don't you
send us to the swine?"
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I'm not certain exactly
why he allowed that to happen,
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that, well, there's
probably a few reasons.
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But finally he says,
"Go ahead." And there's -
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- I'm surprised that
there were people with,
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'cause pigs were anathema.
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You wonder why there
were pig farmers in the area.
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- They probably
weren't from Israel.
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You know, they probably weren't
part of the group, you know?
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But, but, so here's
thousands of pigs up there.
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All these
spirits go in the pigs,
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they all run off the cliff.
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And every one of 'em die.
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Now that's a
pretty interesting thing
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because pretty
soon all those pigs
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begin floating over
to Israel side, you know,
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and they began hearing about
this story of what happened,
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what Jesus did.
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Now it's pretty
cool because in verse 15,
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the people come
out now that Jesus -
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- And they were thrilled that
he had helped this poor man.
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- Oh, not at all. Not at all.
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Because he just
killed all their pigs,
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and they were mad at him.
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The interesting thing in
verse 15, they came to Jesus
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and see him that was
possessed of the devil,
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and had a legion in
him, a legion of demons,
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a couple thousand demons in him.
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And he was clothed and
sitting there in his right mind.
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- But they could tell
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that's the guy that
we've been staying away from,
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that we've been
trying to keep out here
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so he wouldn't come into town.
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- They they knew that. But
think about this now, clothed.
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The man was naked.
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- You're right.
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- Where'd he get the clothes?
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I like to think that Jesus
took off his outer garment,
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and he clothed this
man with his own garment.
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- The way he covers us.
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- Exactly.
00:24:26.59\00:24:27.40
- Covers up all our ugly parts.
00:24:27.40\00:24:29.06
- Yeah, we're bleeding,
we're pierced, we're horrible.
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We're, got all this garbage.
00:24:31.23\00:24:33.80
And he takes his righteousness
and wraps it around us.
00:24:33.80\00:24:37.04
- Well, and
even if we don't have
00:24:37.04\00:24:39.24
any outward signs
of the ugliness in us,
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we all have it in here
00:24:42.98\00:24:44.65
if we haven't given
over every ounce of it
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to the Lord already.
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But he literally covers us
with his robe of righteousness.
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- He does.
00:24:51.72\00:24:52.75
- And there he
probably did it literally.
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- Yeah. And basically, I
think the Bible turns out is,
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you know, justification.
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He became
justified in Jesus Christ.
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You know, no longer
the sinner that he was,
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but a saint in Jesus Christ now
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because God changed him.
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The other
exciting thing about this
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is he's now in his right mind.
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He had 2000
demons dwelling in him.
00:25:15.18\00:25:17.75
He wanted
nothing to do with God,
00:25:17.75\00:25:19.55
except there
finally, someplace down
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in the little
hollow of his heart,
00:25:21.95\00:25:23.92
he saw Jesus, knew
that he was the Creator.
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He wanted that. He
couldn't even speak.
00:25:26.96\00:25:29.02
But Jesus read the
intent of his heart.
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Matter of fact, as you know,
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Jesus came all the way
across the Sea of Galilee
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because he had an
appointment with this guy.
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- A divine appointment.
00:25:36.87\00:25:37.67
- Yeah. Divine appointment.
00:25:37.67\00:25:39.80
He knew exactly what
this man was hungering for.
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And he had the
cure. He had the answer.
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And you think about that,
Jesus, he knows our address.
00:25:46.64\00:25:50.45
You know, He
knows where we live.
00:25:51.51\00:25:53.82
- And he'll meet
us wherever we are.
00:25:53.82\00:25:55.42
Even if we are
living outside of town in a,
00:25:55.42\00:25:57.89
in a cemetery because
nobody wants us around.
00:25:57.89\00:26:01.79
- Yeah.
00:26:01.79\00:26:02.92
- We've burned
every bridge in our life.
00:26:02.92\00:26:04.09
We have no relationships left.
00:26:04.09\00:26:05.73
- Exactly.
00:26:05.73\00:26:07.00
- And we can't even
articulate what we need anymore.
00:26:07.00\00:26:09.66
But he'll
arrange an appointment.
00:26:10.77\00:26:12.20
- He will.
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You know, folks,
Jesus knows your address.
00:26:13.50\00:26:17.64
He knows all of our addresses.
00:26:17.64\00:26:19.11
He knows our
heart. He knows our life.
00:26:19.11\00:26:20.94
And he has a divine
appointment with you.
00:26:20.94\00:26:24.45
He knows exactly
what you're hungering for.
00:26:24.45\00:26:27.42
You may be
having tons of troubles.
00:26:27.42\00:26:29.58
You may be just up
to your neck in sin.
00:26:29.58\00:26:33.69
God doesn't care.
00:26:33.69\00:26:36.09
God will take you and he'll
change your life, won't He?
00:26:36.09\00:26:39.03
He'll do that.
00:26:39.03\00:26:40.16
- Oh. And you don't
even have to be able
00:26:40.16\00:26:42.06
to articulate it yet,
00:26:42.06\00:26:43.47
because he knows
what's in your heart.
00:26:43.47\00:26:45.50
You might not even
recognize, "God, I need you."
00:26:45.50\00:26:49.27
It hasn't been a
conscious spoken thought.
00:26:49.27\00:26:52.41
- Yeah.
00:26:52.41\00:26:53.07
- And he's there.
00:26:53.07\00:26:53.88
- It says, and he found him.
00:26:53.88\00:26:54.94
He was in his right
mind or to get that mind.
00:26:54.94\00:26:57.71
It was the mind of Jesus Christ.
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Jesus wrapped him
with his righteousness
00:26:59.61\00:27:01.48
and then he gave
him his own mind.
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This man now is
completely whole on the inside
00:27:04.22\00:27:07.39
and on the outside.
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My friend, choose Jesus today.
00:27:08.19\00:27:10.03
Call out to him.
00:27:10.03\00:27:11.39
He knows your address, and
he'll come right now to you.
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- I have a little pamphlet here
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called "Hope in Troubled Times."
00:27:19.60\00:27:22.27
I don't know about you,
00:27:22.27\00:27:23.91
but the times we're living
in seem pretty troubled to me.
00:27:23.91\00:27:27.41
If I didn't have
the hope Jesus gives me,
00:27:27.41\00:27:30.95
I couldn't get out
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