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- Welcome, everyone.
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We're excited to share
some country wisdom with you.
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- King Solomon had
a thing or two to say
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about the path to wisdom.
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In Proverbs four he wrote,
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"Let your eyes
look directly forward
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and your gaze be
straight before you.
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Keep straight
the path of your feet
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and all your ways will be sure."
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- Join us now
for "Country Wisdom".
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(light music)
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Can you see this?
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Look at this.
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All of that
granite, slowly over time,
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had fallen off of
that top of that mountain.
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Millions of years, and
after 69 million years,
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voila, this is what we have.
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But wait a second,
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does that really make sense?
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But that's what many scientists
would have us believe.
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You just add more time
and more time to anything
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and it can happen.
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You know, I had an
acquaintance at Dr. Gentry
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who did studies on granite,
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that whole mountain is granite,
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and he found isotope
halos of polonium 218,
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in particular halo had
half life of three minutes.
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There he found that the
granite had cooled so rapidly
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it captured those halos.
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What does that mean?
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Well, it means
that the scientist
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can't be right with
millions and millions
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and millions of years,
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but God can when he spoke
everything into existence.
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- I have heard you tell
some pretty wild stories,
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but that is just absurd.
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- Well, that's exactly it.
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You have to use the absurd
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to try and get
people to stop and think,
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could it really happen?
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Does a Boeing 747
just come together?
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(both laugh)
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- You know, there's completely,
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well not
completely a different topic,
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but I can remember at
different points in my life,
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like even back in
high school Biology,
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realizing there
are some major holes
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in this whole Darwinian theory.
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And one of them I, to this day,
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have never heard a
decent explanation of
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is how, with the
gradual little steps,
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would you ever end
up with male and female?
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Because unless you
have a conscious nature
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that you just
don't wanna call God
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you would have
to know as you're,
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you know, over millions
of years developing a female,
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somebody has to be aware
that there's a male over here
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otherwise what's the point?
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- That is a good point, yeah.
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- The two really have to
be fully formed, complete,
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before they're gonna
do each other any good.
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So that just
never made sense to me.
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That, oh, they just developed.
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And if, according to evolution,
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really our
whole purpose in life,
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if there is a purpose to
a randomly produced life,
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it would be just to get
our genes passed on, right?
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I'm sure you've
heard that. - Yeah, yeah.
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- Well, wouldn't it
have been much more efficient
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if we were all
just hermaphrodites?
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I remember having my
first little aquarium
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when I was a
kid and my dad said,
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"Well, we need to buy a
snail to put in the aquarium
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to help keep it clean."
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And one day, there was
a little snail in there.
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And I'm going,
"Where did that come from?"
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So my dad explained to me that,
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I don't know if all
snails are hermaphrodites
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but this one was, and it's like,
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oh yeah, you only need one
and it'll produce by itself.
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Isn't that what
evolution should have done?
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Because it's so
much more efficient.
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If your whole
purpose is reproduce,
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then why should you be
dependent on someone else?
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- Because
according to evolution,
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everything is
always getting better
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and better and
better in producing
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some higher
form. - Something more
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and more complicated.
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- And more complex.
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- I don't know if
you've read this book
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but I remember another
big turning point for me,
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Michael Behe's book,
"Darwin's Black Box".
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In that, there were
sections I had to read
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two or three times
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because it was
meant more for scientists.
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And he wasn't even coming at it
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from a perspective
of being a Christian.
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He's a scientist, what kind?
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Microbiologist,
something like that.
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And he said, okay,
Darwin, back in his day,
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it was easy enough to
look under a microscope
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and see these cells
look like just little blobs.
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It was easy enough to go,
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"Well, that's
just a simple cell.
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It could have arisen
from primordial stew."
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But we know now cells
are anything but simple.
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He talks about all
the systems within a cell,
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including - [Jim] Yeah.
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- [Janice] an entire
waste removal system,
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without which
the cell would die.
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- Now that we've
mapped the human genome,
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Darwin would just-
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- It just keeps getting
more and more complicated
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than - Exactly.
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- the deeper you look.
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And he said this
could not have happened
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on a gradual step-by-step basis
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because you need
that whole system
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for the cell to function.
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- Yeah.
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- And if you were
taking millions of years
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tiny little steps,
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how would nature know to
select for something like that
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until it was complete?
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- Yeah.
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- It had to be all at once.
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- It's so interesting
because everywhere we turn
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there's evidence for creation
as opposed to evolution.
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- That's what I
meant when I said
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God doesn't just ask
us to go on blind faith.
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I know the phrase,
"God said it, I believe it,
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that settles it."
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Ultimately it
comes down to that.
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If there's something
you don't understand,
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rather than saying,
"God must be wrong here
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'cause this is not
making sense to me.
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This isn't logical."
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I have learned that it makes
a lot more sense spiritually
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to go, okay, I
don't understand it,
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but there's gotta be a reason
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or God wouldn't
have done it this way.
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So you might need to get
to that point at some point,
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but there is so much evidence.
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He's not asking us to believe
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that He created
everything on blind faith.
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- Very true, very true.
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And I had the privilege one time
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of having Dr. Harold
Coffin stay at our home.
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He wrote "Creation:
Accident Or Design".
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I can remember in there
talking about the human eye,
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- [Janice] Oh, right.
- [Jim] that complexity
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of the human
eye. - [Janice] Right.
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- [Jim] But an exciting
thing he was doing at that time
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was studying Mount St. Helen.
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Many years ago,
but you remember,
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Mount St. Helen- - [Janice] Yes,
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I've been there.
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Oh, it's
incredible to stand there,
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and years later, to look at
the damage that that caused.
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- And he was going
year after year and study,
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and he noticed in Spirit Lake
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there used to be
this gorgeous lake.
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All of a sudden,
here was all this logs
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had washed in the lake and
pretty soon their water logging
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because they had
their entire root mass
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still intact with the
tree with just no limbs.
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They would upright themselves,
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and pretty soon
they begin sinking.
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He decided to dive
one year, went in there,
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and here's all these
successional layers of forest
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laid down over
millions of years.
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But wait a
second. (Janice laughs)
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- We know when that happened.
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- Yeah, it was
only just a few years.
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And then he came back one year
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and all of a sudden this
earth and dam kind of mud
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had broken out and
here is a mini Grand Canyon.
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The whole thing
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right there. -
[Janice] A brand new canyon.
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- [Jim] A brand new
canyon with all the strata,
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all the layers, all the levels.
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And you think,
"Ah, Grand Canyon,
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could it have
happened in just a short time?"
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Yes, they could.
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- Because until Mount
St. Helen's scientists
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would not have said
that could happen in one day.
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- Not at all.
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And it's interesting too,
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because he's got
permission to do core samples
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in some of
today's petrified forest
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that they say were laid
down over millennial time.
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Guess what?
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Not the case.
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All one forest,
all one age of forest.
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- You took the core
samples and genetically
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all those trees are the same.
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- Same, yeah.
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Same forest.
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- Pretty good evidence.
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- Now, another
interesting thing,
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and I know we kinda
wanna wrap up this section
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'cause I think you
wanted to go do something.
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- Yes! (Jim chuckles)
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So hurry.
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- Okay, but
Darwin, he kept saying,
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"Oh, we'll find more links.
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We'll find more things in
the future that'll corroborate."
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Well, let me read to
you what one fellow says
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from Harvard University
taught at John Hopkins.
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He said, "Well, we are now
about 120 years after Darwin
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and knowledge of
the fossil record
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has been greatly expanded.
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We now have a
quarter of a million fossils,
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probably even more
now, various species,
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but the situation
hasn't changed much."
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- [Janice] What situation?
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- [Jim] "The record of evolution
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is still surprisingly jerky
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and ironically, we
have even fewer examples
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of evolutionary transitions
than we had in Darwin's time."
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- Still haven't
found that missing link.
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- Still haven't
found that missing link.
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But let's go
check out what you want.
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- We get to go to the zoo?
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- We're going to go to the zoo.
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- All right.
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(light music)
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So, you let me come to the zoo.
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- [Jim] We got to the
zoo. - I know, I know.
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Look at these guys.
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Isn't that
evidence of evolution?
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- [Jim] You mean because
there's a horse and a zebra
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that bred together?
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- Yeah. - [Jim] No.
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- It's a new creature.
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It's still a hoof dam.
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- It's a new creature.
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(Jim laughs)
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- That's a stretch.
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And see, that's the way it is.
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You look at these guys,
you can breed cats with cats,
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you can breed a
tiger and a lion, right?
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You get a liger.
- [Janice] Right.
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- They've done it.
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But you can't
breed a dog and a cat.
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- Not the way we've
ever figured out how to do.
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- Not the how, because kind,
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which is basically the family,
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kind is this major covering.
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I mean, I could
work a long time,
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probably longer in
my lifetime anyway,
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and I could get
a, what would you say
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from Great Dane to a Chihuahua?
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- [Janice] Well, I
don't think that's evolution.
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That would be devolution.
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(Jim laughs)
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- Well now you're just-
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- You know, you're
going backwards there.
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- But it's micro evolution.
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If you look at from
the standpoint of creating
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a new "species" or whatever,
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it's still all part of it.
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By the way, - [Janice] That's-
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- I've gotta interrupt
just for a sec because I-
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- You interrupt me all the time.
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- I do. - What else to do?
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- I caught you on
a little something.
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When we talked about
the rings or the trees,
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you said something
a little bit different
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about genetics of the tree.
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Eh, really in
genetics, it's kind of
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the age rings of the tree.
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- Or I was an English
major, not a Biology major.
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- There you go. -
But as long as we're
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on that pointing out.
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You said a
doctor at John Hopkins.
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It's Johns
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Hopkins. - Johns. Yeah okay.
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- So there, we're even.
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- We're
corrected and we're even.
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All right, all
right. (Janice laughs)
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- But this point is
great because when people say,
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I believe in evolution,
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you really need to find
out what they mean by that.
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Because all of us
believe in evolution.
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I have a little herd of
longhaired Doxies at home.
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- That's truth, too.
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Real truth. (laughs) - I know.
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And they're adorable,
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but they were not on the ark.
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Only because Noah,
if he'd known about them
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he would've included them
because they're so adorable.
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But that's a new breed
that didn't used to exist,
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but they're dogs.
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So yes, I believe
in microevolution,
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but there's still dogs.
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There's no
evidence of macroevolution.
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- It's the dog kind,
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right? - Yes.
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- And that's what God said
to take on the ark, the kinds.
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And that's why the ark big
enough to fit everything on it.
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- And I've had people say to me,
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"You don't believe in evolution.
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What about the fossil record?"
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And my response
is, "What about it?"
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- Yeah. (Janice laughs)
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It wasn't too long
ago they discovered
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the Burgess Shale up in Canada.
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- Okay, I've heard,
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okay, Canada. - Burgess Shale.
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- I couldn't quite place it.
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- Massive, massive
discovery of all these
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different animals in
different layers of rock.
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And guess what?
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After this massive discovery,
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there's still no links.
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A trilobite, through the layers,
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is still a trilobite.
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It just kinda
keeps on going and going.
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In China, they
found an area way bigger
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than the Burgess Shale
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and everything
they've discovered,
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there's no missing links.
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The links are still missing.
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Why? Because
there aren't any links.
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The family tree that God created
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is this multi-branch tree here,
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not this one
little thing over here,
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some place that
goes and then branches
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and branches and branches.
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That didn't the way God made it.
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- Or this branch died out.
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You know, because it was
all God's part of His plan
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that most of them would die out,
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is He's working toward creation.
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- And another thing, I know
we don't have much time left,
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but a pet thing is God
just didn't create stuff
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and then set it on
its own, out in eternity,
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and let us fend for ourself.
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- You're not a deist? - No.
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We serve a loving
God who cares for us
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and wants to be
involved in our life.
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- Very much so.
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- Yeah.
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Glad I got you here to
the zork and the zonkies land.
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- Zork? (laughs) - Zork.
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- Read the sign, Jim.
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- Read the sign. -
Read the sign, okay.
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(Janice laughs)
Well, it's close.
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- Zonky and zorse.
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- Zonky and zorse.
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Yeah, that was close.
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(Janice laughs)
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(soft music)
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During my college years,
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I became a staunch evolutionist.
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I was convinced
that we all arose
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from some primordial lose.
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I bought into every argument
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that my professor set before me.
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(chuckles) It
wasn't until years later
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that I really realized
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there are
actually credible arguments
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for intelligent design.
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I have a pamphlet
I think you'll enjoy.
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It's called
"Evolution Impossible".
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If your story is like mine,
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go to
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"Evolution Impossible".
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(soft music)
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- I have really loved
being here at the Ark Encounter.
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I'm not tired of it yet.
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I'm especially glad,
as we've gone around,
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we keep hearing some great music
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because we happen to be here,
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we picked good timing.
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- We did.
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- Happened to be
here during their
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very cleverly named 40 Days
and 40 Nights of Gospel Music.
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And I know that I
either read or someone told me,
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largest gospel
music festival ever.
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- I know a lot of
times we can hear the music
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while we're filming.
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- I know, I know.
- It's pretty cool.
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- It's hard to concentrate.
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You have to
keep, 'cause I'm going,
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ooh, that's pretty toe tapping.
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Who's that now?
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And I've really enjoyed that,
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but we're not here
just to be entertained.
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We are not here
just to have a good time,
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although we are.
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I brought up a text here
that I wanted to read to you
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that is just so appropriate.
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It's in Genesis
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and it's Genesis 6:11-13.
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"Now the earth was
corrupt in God's sight
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and was full of violence."
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Sound familiar?
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That part's not in there.
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"God saw how corrupt
the earth had become,
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for all the people on
earth had corrupted their ways.
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So God said to Noah,
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'I'm going to put
an end to all people,
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for the earth is filled
with violence because of them.
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I am surely going to destroy
both them and the earth."
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We've talked about before,
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that's why Noah
had to build the ark
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because the Earth
was full of violence.
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But here's the question,
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might be kind of
rhetorical in your case
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but not rhetorical for
everybody who's here today.
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Because a lot of people
have come just out of curiosity,
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who aren't convinced
that it's a real story.
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So it's really important.
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Do you believe in
Noah and The Flood?
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- [Jim] It is
interesting, Janice,
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when you look at this,
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they built this from the ark.
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From the Bible, this is
a pattern that they follow.
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- [Jim] God told
them how to build it.
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It just wasn't
some idea that Noah had.
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- [Jim] And here it
is over 500 feet long.
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Now there's some discrepancy
about exactly how long.
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Some of the
people maybe looking,
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they're looking in
their Bible and said,
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"Well, it was 485
feet or something."
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The difference was, you know-
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- Did you know there
were different cubits?
00:16:04.56\00:16:06.09
(Janice laughs) - Yeah.
00:16:06.09\00:16:07.46
- I don't remember that
from Math class way back when.
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- Because it's from the tip
of your finger to your elbow.
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And that was the
length. - And my cubit
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would be a lot.
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My cubit's less than your cubit.
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- [Jim] Unfortunately, I
gotta say this, don't hit me.
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It was a man's arm.
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But there was
also a royal cubit.
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- [Janice] They
were a king's arm.
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- [Jim] King's arm and
a little bit different.
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And Moses actually,
where did he come from?
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- [Janice] Egypt, mostly.
00:16:29.68\00:16:30.82
- [Jim] Egypt, and
his training was royalty.
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So it would
believe that probably
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that's where the cubit came from
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because he wrote about it.
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So that's why this
one's over 500 feet
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is from that cubit.
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- [Janice] You know, even
if it was only 485 feet long,
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it's still impressive.
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- [Jim] Oh, it totally is.
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- [Janice] Those extra few
feet, I'm not gonna quibble.
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- [Jim] Now, I've
just gotta say this.
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We got the wonderful privilege
of going up on the top.
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- [Janice] Oh, you're bragging.
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(Janice laughing) -
[Jim] Yeah, I kinda am.
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It was so cool
- [Janice] I know.
00:16:58.61\00:16:59.91
- [Jim] to get up on top.
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And you think
about Noah up there.
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He didn't get to go up
on the roof all the time,
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because for a year
this boat is rocking.
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This ship is rocking.
00:17:07.42\00:17:08.79
- [Janice] You would've
wanted to be on the roof.
00:17:08.79\00:17:09.92
- [Jim] Yeah. And you
think people's come up
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with all kinds of things.
00:17:12.03\00:17:12.99
Well, it couldn't be real?
00:17:12.99\00:17:14.46
And how could it
hold all the animals?
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Yet, there's much we'll
talk a little bit about that.
00:17:16.23\00:17:20.07
- [Janice] It was one of
their purposes in building it,
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showing it could have been done.
00:17:21.77\00:17:23.07
- [Jim] It could
have been done, yeah.
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It could hold all the water.
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It could hold all the food.
00:17:25.37\00:17:26.44
It could hold everything.
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But I tell you, the devil
doesn't want anybody to know
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that. He didn't want
anybody to believe in a flood.
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- [Janice] You know, in fact,
I don't know if you remember,
00:17:35.92\00:17:37.72
but when we were
touring through inside,
00:17:37.72\00:17:40.99
there was a
fabulous sign up there
00:17:40.99\00:17:43.63
and it had this
snake wrapped around
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like it was the frame of it.
00:17:46.76\00:17:48.30
- [Jim] Yeah. -
[Janice] And it said,
00:17:48.30\00:17:50.13
"If I can convince you
that the flood wasn't real,
00:17:50.13\00:17:55.20
I can convince you that heaven
and hell aren't real either."
00:17:56.60\00:17:58.57
- Yep, yeah.
00:17:58.57\00:17:59.61
- Yeah, so there is a reason
00:17:59.61\00:18:01.18
why it's important
to believe in Genesis.
00:18:01.18\00:18:04.08
Important to
believe that if God said
00:18:04.08\00:18:06.21
there was a man named Noah,
00:18:06.21\00:18:07.42
if God said there was a flood,
00:18:07.42\00:18:09.68
if He said, "I saved this
family, here's how I did it,"
00:18:09.68\00:18:13.29
that you're not just
viewing it as an allegory.
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There's a reason.
00:18:16.96\00:18:18.06
It is important to
take that literally
00:18:18.06\00:18:20.03
to understand God
wasn't joking around.
00:18:20.03\00:18:23.00
He wasn't telling some
little children's story.
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Drives me crazy.
00:18:25.77\00:18:26.87
I know you've
seen books like this.
00:18:26.87\00:18:28.24
- [Jim] Yeah.
00:18:28.24\00:18:29.30
- [Janice] Even in
Christian bookstores,
00:18:29.30\00:18:31.44
maybe especially
Christian bookstores
00:18:31.44\00:18:34.08
where they're
appealing to little kids.
00:18:34.08\00:18:36.51
So it's cartoonish and you
have an adorable little ark
00:18:36.51\00:18:41.58
and giraffe sticking
their heads out this window
00:18:42.92\00:18:44.85
and the
elephants out this window-
00:18:44.85\00:18:46.82
- And it's not a
boat that could probably
00:18:46.82\00:18:47.89
really float
either that they draw.
00:18:47.89\00:18:50.26
- No, no.
00:18:50.26\00:18:51.66
But, there's a danger
in viewing Noah and the ark
00:18:51.66\00:18:55.30
in that vein.
00:18:55.30\00:18:56.53
There is a danger if
that is your idea of it
00:18:56.53\00:19:00.50
rather than this kind of image.
00:19:00.50\00:19:02.77
- Jan, is the sad thing is
00:19:02.77\00:19:04.41
it's Christian
parents buying their children
00:19:04.41\00:19:07.14
this kind of thing to program
00:19:07.14\00:19:08.91
that this is all just a myth.
00:19:08.91\00:19:10.91
This never really happened.
00:19:10.91\00:19:13.45
- Because if
you're thinking of it
00:19:13.45\00:19:16.85
in the cutey kind of form,
00:19:16.85\00:19:19.42
it's not real.
00:19:19.42\00:19:21.59
You look at those books,
00:19:21.59\00:19:23.02
cute little story, but not real.
00:19:23.02\00:19:25.39
- It's right back to
the devil in the gardens.
00:19:25.39\00:19:27.86
"Oh, you know, God
really doesn't mean that.
00:19:27.86\00:19:30.70
Go ahead, take of the fruit.
00:19:30.70\00:19:31.97
It's okay."
00:19:31.97\00:19:33.37
- It goes back to
where is your foundation?
00:19:33.37\00:19:36.24
Is your foundation in a real God
00:19:36.24\00:19:39.01
who does real powerful things?
00:19:39.01\00:19:41.68
I asked you, do you
believe in The Flood?
00:19:43.24\00:19:46.35
I could just as easily ask you,
00:19:46.35\00:19:48.18
do you believe
in a real creation?
00:19:48.18\00:19:50.62
That's just as important.
00:19:51.55\00:19:52.95
- Same thing, really.
00:19:52.95\00:19:53.96
Yeah, it's about God.
00:19:53.96\00:19:55.72
And I was thinking,
I'd made a little note
00:19:55.72\00:19:57.56
'cause I didn't
wanna forget this fellow.
00:19:57.56\00:19:59.59
But in 1872, George
Smith basically was called
00:19:59.59\00:20:03.40
by the British
Museum to come to a job.
00:20:03.40\00:20:06.50
What was the job?
00:20:06.50\00:20:07.87
Well, for years they had
been doing archeology in Nineveh
00:20:07.87\00:20:11.31
and they found all these
pieces of pots and stuff,
00:20:11.31\00:20:13.71
and it was just like, they
couldn't make heads or tails up.
00:20:13.71\00:20:16.41
They threw it all in
boxes, sent it to England.
00:20:16.41\00:20:19.15
When they got to England,
00:20:19.15\00:20:20.22
they didn't bother
really packing it well
00:20:20.22\00:20:22.18
and it was little
tiny pieces. - No,
00:20:22.18\00:20:22.98
Archeology has become a science,
00:20:22.98\00:20:25.19
but early on,
they were destroying
00:20:25.19\00:20:26.92
some really great things.
00:20:26.92\00:20:28.16
- Oh yeah.
00:20:28.16\00:20:29.19
And so it was
little teeny pieces.
00:20:29.19\00:20:30.29
And they finally thought,
00:20:30.29\00:20:31.43
maybe we should sometimes see
00:20:31.43\00:20:32.83
what all those
little teeny pieces are.
00:20:32.83\00:20:34.93
So they called this guy,
00:20:34.93\00:20:36.40
he went down in the basement
00:20:36.40\00:20:37.83
and he spent 10
years in the basement.
00:20:37.83\00:20:40.57
(Janice laughs)
00:20:40.57\00:20:41.87
He put it all
together and guess what it was?
00:20:41.87\00:20:44.01
It was an Assyrian
story of The Flood.
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It talked about The Flood.
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And you and I have been in there
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and they've got
this beautiful mural
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that shows all the
different flood stories.
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- [Janice] Right,
from every continent.
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Every continent has people on it
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who had a version of a flood
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and a man saving some
animals and some of mankind.
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- Yeah. - And when you have that
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in cultures that were so
divergent in location, in time,
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and they're all have this
hint of the same root story,
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then you know there's
gotta be a real root there.
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- Exactly.
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There's gotta
be a seed in there.
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And these are so blatantly
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right there in your
face that there was a flood
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in each of these big,
major continents and locations
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that something's
gotta be happening.
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- What ties 'em all
together? - Exactly.
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- What's the common denominator?
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Noah. (laughs) -
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Noah and God's truth, right?
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- Yes. - That
what it's all about.
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- There's your
foundation, though.
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It's real.
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I think I was so struck.
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I already believed this.
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It's why we came,
we're already believers.
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I already believed in a literal
creation, a literal flood,
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but when you
park and you drive up
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and you get the first glimpse,
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it's like, "Oh wow.
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That is not a
little kid's story."
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- Yeah. It's a
little bit the same.
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Terry and I have had the
great privilege of filming
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a lot in Israel and
you get to each one-
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- Go ahead, rub it in.
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Rub it in. - I
know, just a little more.
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And all of a
sudden it's all real.
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The Bible comes alive
and that's what it is here.
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All of a sudden it comes alive.
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I mean, they could really do it.
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Noah could
really build this thing.
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This one can't
float, but that one could.
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Engineers have proven it.
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And so it's pretty amazing
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that we find ourselves
here in this situation,
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looking at this, and
really asking the audience,
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do you believe?
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Do you believe in this?
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Well, it's right there.
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- And God has given
us a lot of evidence.
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He doesn't just
ask us blind faith.
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Yes, I believe
because you said it,
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but that's the
only evidence I have.
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I mean, even if it were,
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if that was all you
had, was God's Word,
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that's plenty.
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But He's very kind to us
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and also gives us evidence
in the world around us today.
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- Very true.
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You look at years ago
when I was a total atheist
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and didn't think
anything about God,
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I got to the Grand
Canyon and I looked at that.
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The massive Grand
Canyon and this teeny river
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all the way down on the bottom.
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And then they said that
river formed this whole thing.
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And I think, "Seriously?"
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(Janice laughs)
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I can't believe that.
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I just cannot believe that.
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But that's you add enough time,
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why, anything can happen, right?
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- I think, I honestly
believe there are people
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who have not thought
about it closely enough.
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It's almost like,
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I remember seeing a cartoon
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with this like
Albert Einstein character
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writing on a chalkboard.
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These Math formulas,
Physics stuff all over,
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and then there's this gap
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and then there's more of it.
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And in between it says,
"and then there was a miracle,"
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(laughs) and then here.
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Because we don't know
what's connecting this to this,
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but it had to have happened.
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And then there
was a million years.
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- It's like all the
old cartographer maps.
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They didn't know what's
here so here are dragons.
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Right here are
dragons (Janice laughs)
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in the map.
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- [Janice] And there
are people who just think,
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"Well, pile on
another million years,
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that solves it." - [Jim] Yeah.
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- Or if a million you
don't think that was enough,
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put a B on it, billion.
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There, problem solved.
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- But you know, people
need to know this was real then
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and it's real now.
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And everything we see,
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all you have to do is go
out and look for the evidence.
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The evidence is everywhere.
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Absolutely everywhere.
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- All right.
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(Jim chuckles)
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I was convinced
that we all arose
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from some primordial lose.
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I bought into every argument
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that my professor set before me.
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(chuckles) It
wasn't until years later
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that I really realized
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there are
actually credible arguments
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for intelligent design.
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- Jim, I could go on for
the rest of the afternoon
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about evidences for creation
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and evidences for a
worldwide catastrophic flood,
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not just a little local event.
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But you told me I can't do that,
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and the audience
would probably get tired
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about after a while.
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But at home, my husband
and I have a library of books
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because there's so
much written on it.
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A lot of those books are from
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these people answers in Genesis
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and just a will foot material
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that will bolster your faith,
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show you what a solid foundation
we have for our faith.
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- You know, and it's true.
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Folks, there's many
groups, many organizations,
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Geoscience Research
Institute, this organization,
00:26:54.11\00:26:57.21
they all have
scientists with names,
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with their degrees
in behind their name.
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- All those initials.
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- Yeah, that are huge.
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These guys aren't just slackers,
00:27:04.25\00:27:06.32
they have got some good,
solid information on creation.
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Don't just believe what
everybody out there says
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is the sales line.
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We talk about what
they're trying to do
00:27:14.13\00:27:16.16
to convince children that,
00:27:16.16\00:27:18.53
ah, that story isn't
real and this isn't real.
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It's real.
00:27:21.80\00:27:22.87
And while all
Jesus Christ is real,
00:27:22.87\00:27:24.87
originally, they
built a door in the ark.
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That door was to signify
00:27:27.98\00:27:29.91
you can come into
the ark of safety.
00:27:29.91\00:27:32.35
The ark of safety, Jesus Christ.
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He said, "I am the
way the truth, the light,
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and I'm the door."
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We can come to Jesus Christ.
00:27:38.42\00:27:40.26
So don't base
everything on what you hear
00:27:40.26\00:27:42.99
from supposed scientists.
00:27:42.99\00:27:45.13
At least give the
creation scientist
00:27:45.13\00:27:47.83
an opportunity to show
they're really true scientists.
00:27:47.83\00:27:50.83
They have a lot of
science to back this up.
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Come to Jesus today.
00:27:53.60\00:27:55.40
Base your life upon Him
and He will change it wherever.
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