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- Welcome everyone,
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we're excited to share
some "Country Wisdom" with you.
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- King Solomon had
a thing or two to say
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about the path to wisdom.
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In Proverbs 4 he wrote,
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"Let your eyes
look directly forward
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and your gaze be
straight before you.
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Keep straight
the path of your feet
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and all your ways will be sure."
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- Join us now
for "Country Wisdom".
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- Well, we're fortunate
here at the museum in Kentucky,
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The Creation Museum, actually.
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We have Bodie Hodge,
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Bodie Hodge is a writer,
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well, he's a
researcher, a biblical scholar.
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He does so many things here.
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Bodie, we really are glad to
be able to be with you today.
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- Yeah, it's great to
be on the show with you.
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- It's a privilege that you
took time out of your schedule.
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You've have
written how many books?
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- Oh, somewhere
between 20 and 30,
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so many I've been involved in.
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- Wow, well a couple I
was wanting to focus on today
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and I was pleased when
you said, "Yeah," you'd do it
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is the "Tower of Babel".
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- Or Babel, what is
the correct pronunciation?
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- Hey, you wouldn't believe it
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but that's the fist
chapter in the book.
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I had to explain
how you pronounce it
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and Webster allows
us to say it either way.
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Now, when I went to England
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and spoke on the
subject of the Tower of Babel,
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they're like, it's Babel.
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So, apparently,
they say Babel over there
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in different places, but
it's kind of a fun question.
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But yeah, we can
say it either way.
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- There you go, see (laughing).
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- No, there's one right
answer, I wanna know what it is.
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(everyone laughing)
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- And then another
book we'll get on to today
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is "One Race One Blood".
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Now, I tell you this is a topic
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that to me is tearing
the world apart right now.
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- Oh, sure is.
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- And that's why I was glad
you'd get in here and address it
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in a biblical fashion.
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- It's
particularly interesting to me
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because our
daughter is Ethiopian.
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- [Bodie] Oh, yeah.
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- And I adore her, I cannot
imagine being closer to one.
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In fact, she tells me,
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she goes, "I know,
I'm your favorite,"
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her brothers know
she's the favorite.
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But we completely,
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it doesn't even
matter that we don't match.
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- So, you don't
think twice about it.
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- No.
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- But we're in a culture
that wants to divide that.
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- That wants to say
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that is the most
important thing about her.
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That thing that's
most important about me
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is that I'm white and
she's black, she's African.
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And yet to us we're
people, she's my daughter,
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that's all that matters.
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- And see,
that's what's happening.
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In our culture, we
have been conditioned,
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we've been trained to start
subdividing the one human race
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into a
multitude of lesser races,
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and higher and
lower types of races
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based on the way you look.
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Now, that actually goes back,
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actually, it was a
little bit before Charles Darwin
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when people started
separating people groups out.
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And that was really
the wrong thing to do.
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- It came with the
scientific revolution.
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- We have different cultures,
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we have different backgrounds
and things like that.
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And yeah, we do look slightly
different from each other,
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you guys don't look
like me, thank goodness.
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(everyone laughing)
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But the point is,
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yes, we do have variations
and that's a good thing.
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The problem was, prior to Darwin
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people started subdividing
people by the way they look,
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skin tone, hair,
eyes, and so forth.
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And next thing you know,
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by the time you get to Darwin
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there was the higher
and lower race concepts
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and they started
dividing them out
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in an evolutionary worldview.
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And as an evolutionary worldview
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has really started
to dominate our culture,
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whether it's England, Australia,
Canada, United States,
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all along the western world.
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In fact, other
parts of the world
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as well have been
buying into this now.
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They've been subdividing people
into higher and lower races
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'cause that's the kind
of stuff that Darwin taught,
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and we're seeing
those types of issues
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play out right here
in our very backyard.
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I thought it was
interesting in Brazil,
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spent some time in Brazil
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and there's many white
people and many black people
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but they don't even
seem to have the race thing.
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It's like it just isn't a thing.
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- There's different forms.
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That's what I've noticed.
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When I was over in
Sweden I saw a type of racism,
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when I was in
England I saw a type,
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when I was down
in Peru I saw a type,
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it was more the
people in the city
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versus some of the
people up on the hillsides
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and the mountains, it
was intriguing seeing that.
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When I was in
Australia I saw a type
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that actually
kind of surprised me.
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But we see this, see
we've been conditioned for it.
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What we need to do is
look past those kinds of things
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'cause there's one race.
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If we all go back to
Adam and Eve, which we do,
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that's what God
in His word says,
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then there's one
race, the human race.
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And if you actually go back
to an early Webster dictionary,
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sometimes it'll say Adams race,
which is really significant,
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there is the human race.
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And yes, we have variations,
that's a beautiful thing,
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it really is a wonderful thing.
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I've met people
from all over the world
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and they are just amazing.
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- You realize what you're saying
is shocking to some people
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maybe that's hearing this.
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You've got to unpack
this a little more for them.
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- Yeah, let's do that.
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- Actually, what is odd nowadays
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is that what he's saying
about only being one race,
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they would accuse him of
being racist for saying that.
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- Oh, yeah absolutely.
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- There's only one
race and it doesn't matter.
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- Yeah, which is shocking
because here we are, one race.
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We're one ultimate people
which means we're all sinners,
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which means they're
all in need of Jesus Christ
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no matter what we look like.
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But let's go back to this.
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When you go to the Bible,
and you go, you open it up,
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you get up there, God
creates Adam uniquely,
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he made him from dust.
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But just because
he was made from dust
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doesn't mean he
was full of life,
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God actually
breathed the life into him.
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So, his life came from God,
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he is made in the image of God.
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The woman, she was made
from Adam's side, from a rib,
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flesh of my
flesh, bone of my bones.
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She also was
made the image of God
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which gives us
value over animals,
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it gives us value over plants,
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it gives us value over rocks,
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and the moon and so forth.
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We have an eternal value
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because we are made in
the image of an eternal God.
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And see, that's one of
the reasons it's so important.
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But we're in a culture
where people rejected God
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and His word.
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They wanna throw the Bible out.
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They wanna say, "Well, I
don't believe the Bible."
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But here's a good question.
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And this is a question that
when somebody objects to God
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and His word anywhere,
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whether it's Genesis,
whether it's in Matthew,
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you need to ask the question,
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by what authority do you object
to God's absolute authority?
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Do you realize they're
stuck in a problem right there?
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Because it has to
be a lesser authority,
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'cause God has the greatest
authority on every matter.
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- What responses do you
get when you ask that question?
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- Usually I get
deer in the headlights.
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People go, "Oh, I never
really thought of that."
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But that's what it is.
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Logically that's called a
faulty appeal to authority
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or a false authority fallacy.
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You're appealing to
man to be superseding God.
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So, think about that.
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When you object to
God, who do you appeal to?
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You appeal to
yourself or someone else?
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- Yourself because
you think you're self god.
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- Right, and that's what it is.
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- You're the ultimate authority.
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- You're elevating
yourself to a God like position,
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that's actually the
religion of humanism.
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So, that's what
this comes down to.
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It's a battle
over God and His word
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versus man and man's
word, the religion of humanism.
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And God's always right, I
just want people to know that.
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- So I guess the question
is, it started out just fine
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in the Garden of
Eden, how did it fall apart?
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- Yeah, well, you know God,
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God's a perfect God and
he made everything perfect.
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And that's what we
expected from a perfect God,
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was the perfect creation.
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Deuteronomy 32:4 says,
"Every work of God is perfect."
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And that's what we
got, was a perfect creation.
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At the end of the creation week,
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God created everything in
six days, rested on the seventh.
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This isn't a problem
for an all powerful God
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to create everything in six
days or to create man and woman.
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That's not a problem
for him, it was perfect.
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Genesis 131 says, "God
saw all the he had made
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and declared it very
good," it really was perfect.
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Now, think about
that for a second.
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It's tough for us to
imagine a perfect world,
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a world with no death
or bloodshed, or cancer,
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or heart
problems, or no baldness.
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(everyone laughing)
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- You could have had a
good full head of hair there.
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- But it really was perfect.
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But you see, Adam and
Eve sinned against God.
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They were given very few
commands, be fruitful, multiply.
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They were told not
to eat from the fruit
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of the tree of the
knowledge of good and evil,
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which is a real tree.
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It's not an apple tree and
don't even confuse with that.
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But when they
ate from that fruit
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they basically said,
"Okay, God, we see what you said
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but here's what we think."
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And therefore, they
elevated their own thoughts
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to supersede God and his
work, they did the same thing.
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- And it never works.
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- And it doesn't work.
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- And God cursed the
ground, he cursed the animals,
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he sentenced man to die,
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that's why we see
death and suffering.
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As a result of the
ground being cursed
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we need a new
heavens and a new earth.
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That's why we need
a savior Jesus Christ
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to save us from sin and death.
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That's why we see tsunamis
and horrible atrocities,
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and all sorts of
terrible things in our culture
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as a result of sin.
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- There's so many people now
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that think
that's all God's fault.
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Everything we look at
that's bad is God's fault.
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Your health problems is
God's fault, it's God's fault.
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- Yeah, and you know what?
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That's what happens
when people ignore Genesis 3.
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Sometimes people look back,
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and I see this a lot
of children's Bibles too.
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And God loves the Children's
Bible writers, love them,
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but a lot of them
actually skipped over the fall.
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"Oh, God made the world,
it's very good, it's perfect,
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oh, then there's a
flood, then the Tower of Babel,"
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and they move
forward, they skip the fall.
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The fall is so significant
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because the fall is the
whole reason we need Jesus
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in the first place,
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it's the whole
reason we need a new heavens
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and a new earth, it's the
whole reason we need a savior,
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why we need to be redeemed.
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It all goes back to
that particular point.
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I don't know if
people realize this.
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Genesis 3 is the pivot
point of the whole Bible.
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Imagine this, if Adam
and Eve wouldn't have sinned,
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all the rest of the Bible,
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you really wouldn't
have needed all that.
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Genesis 3, when Adam
and Eve sinned against God,
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boom, God then begins
solving that sin problem.
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And it's not fully solved
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until we get to
Revelation 21 and 22,
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new heavens and a new earth,
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everything is consummated,
it's all turned around.
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- Really good point.
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- My grandmother was number
11 in a family of 13 girls
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and she sometimes
felt lost in the crowd.
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Do you ever feel that way?
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With nearly 8
billion people in the world
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it's easy to wonder if anyone
even notices you're alive.
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But there is
someone who notices.
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The Bible says
God calls us by name.
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He knows you, knows
your name, you're His child.
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If you'd like proof go to
talkingdonkeyinternational.org
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and request Offer Number
130 for this free pamphlet,
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there's not another you.
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(gentle music)
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There are so many Christians,
not just the world at large,
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but Christians who kind
of make most of Genesis,
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at least those
first two chapters,
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it's like, "Well, that's
not like the rest of the Bible,
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the rest of the
Bible we can believe
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especially the New Testament."
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For some Christians the
entire Old Testament is suspect.
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Those first two
chapters of Genesis,
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it's more like, well,
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that wasn't really
meant to be scientific
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or truly
historical, it's an allegory.
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And they separate it
into a different category
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from the rest of Scripture.
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And I've seen people do that.
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And one of the reasons
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that I would
suggest they're doing that
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is because they've been
influenced by the world.
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Look at me, I grew up in church,
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I went to Sunday
schools, youth programs,
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but at the same time I
went to the state schools
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and here's what I would
see at the state schools,
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Big Bang, millions
of years, evolution,
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you evolved from lower apes.
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You were hunters and gatherers,
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finally got smart enough
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to kinda start
doing some other stuff.
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But that's what
I've been drilled with.
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So, a lot of Christians, they've
been trained by the world,
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and then they come back
and they look at Genesis
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they go, "That doesn't
match with all this Big Bang
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and millions of years."
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Well, maybe that's an allegory,
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maybe I should reinterpret it.
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But you know what?
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Here's a good
way to look at this.
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When it comes to Genesis 1,
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actually Genesis 1 all
the way up to Genesis 11,
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how did the other
Bible writers take it?
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How did Jesus take it?
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- How did Peter-
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- He obviously, Christ
believed that story, he quoted.
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- He did, in
Matthew 19, and Mark 10.
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Jesus goes back and he
quotes Genesis 1 and Genesis 2
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as literal history
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as the basis for the doctrine
of marriage, for example.
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You see, marriage is a doctrine
that goes back to the Bible.
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Clothing is a doc,
why do we wear clothes?
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Thank you for
wearing clothes, by the way.
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(everyone laughing)
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You're probably saying
the same thing about me.
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- At my age I look
better with clothes.
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(everyone laughing)
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- But that goes
back to Genesis 3.
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Adam and Eve were originally
naked, they wore no clothes.
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But then when they sinned,
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they immediately realized
they're naked, something's
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wrong. And so, they
went and they took fig leaves
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and sew together to
make covering for themselves.
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I don't know if
you've seen fig leaves
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but it's like a tweed.
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They were in a hurry.
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It'll cause a rash
and all sorts of stuff.
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But those fig leave
coverings were not good enough,
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the punishment
for sin was death,
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so, the solution
had to involve death.
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And the Lord stepped in
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and he sacrificed animals in
Genesis 3:21 to cover that sin
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and that's where the
doctrine of clothing comes from.
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And that's actually-
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- The best example of
pretension and hypocrisy,
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those leaves.
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- Yes, it really was.
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I want you to
kinda focus a little more
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on the cover of
this, "One Race One Blood."
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Right now I look at Chicago
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and how many people
they kill every day,
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there's a lot of
blood being spilled.
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And they talk about,
it's all because of racism,
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and which is one blood.
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It's my blood has been
shed out there, it's your blood.
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- Those are our relatives.
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- It's our family,
yeah, which people can't-
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- It's a sinful human nature
that wants to have a hierarchy
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and especially wants to believe
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that whatever level I'm at,
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well, it's
higher than your level.
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My uncle was a
missionary, Vietnam,
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then the
Philippines, and then Rwanda.
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And he said in Rwanda,
even among Christian pastors,
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he said it was a
meeting of Christian pastors
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and there was one
from a particular tribe
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who simply flat out said,
"Tutsis were born to rule."
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And he said,
"Christianity isn't as old
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as the tribal warfare's."
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And it's not just that area,
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go to anywhere in the world
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and the human tendency
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is to push someone
down lower than me.
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- Because we're sinners.
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And what that is,
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that is a corrupted
understanding of dominion.
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We're made in the
image of a ruling God,
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He gave us
something to rule over,
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He gave us the
earth to rule over.
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But at the same time now
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people now warp that
because of their sinful minds,
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now they wanna
rule over each other
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and do that sort of thing.
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- Terry and I have spent
quite a bit of time filming
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in certain areas of Africa.
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And it's amazing the
slave trade in Africa
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where there're
people enslaving each other.
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- It's sinful human nature.
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- It's sinful human nature.
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And that's
where we are right now
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but the devils doing a
good job of dragging us down.
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- Yeah, sadly he really is.
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But that's why we need to
get back to God and His word.
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Whether it's people in Chicago,
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whether it's people in Africa,
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we need to get
back to God's word.
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God's word is the
absolute authority.
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When people start to
understand we're all one race,
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we all go back to Adam
and Eve, we're all related,
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all of a sudden you start
looking at people different,
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this is a family
reunion right here.
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But sometimes
I've heard people say,
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"But why do we
look so different?"
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some people
look, the darker skin,
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some people have
different eyes and so forth.
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Some people have lighter skin
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if you go to places like Norway,
and Sweden, and so forth.
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And they say, "Why do
we see this variation?"
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Well, the Tower of Babel is
actually significant for that.
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The Tower of Babel.
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Okay, just big picture,
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you have
creation, you have the fall,
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then you have the flood,
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only eight people
survived the flood,
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they come off the ark.
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God says, "Be fruitful,
multiply, fill the earth."
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But Noah's
descendants came together
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and built a city and tower,
said "Let's not be scattered."
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And so here they are.
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- They felt safer
all being together
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even though that's
not what God had wanted.
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- Yeah, they felt
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like they're actually
trying to defy God's command.
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Was God gonna let
them get away with that?
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Not at all.
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So, he came down, he
confused their language.
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Now, notice he kept the
marriage contracts together.
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The husband and wife
still spoke the same language,
00:16:17.84\00:16:20.18
he didn't split
apart the married.
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No, he took those
different family groups
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and they split to
different parts of the world.
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Some went farther
than the Middle East,
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some were still closer to
the Middle East and so forth.
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But what that did is that
split apart the gene pool.
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For example, if me and my wife,
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if somebody took us
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and just put us somewhere
on the part of the world,
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and all of a sudden all of
our descendants, guess what?
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They would all
look kind of like us
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because that's our gene pool.
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So, that's what
happened, they got split apart.
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People who ended up in Africa
took genes for darker skin,
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people who went to Europe
took genes for lighter skin,
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people who went to the Orient
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took genes for
the almond shaped eye.
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But you know what?
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We're all humans.
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Those are just variations
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that's just split
apart in the gene pool.
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- Bodie, could you maybe
even unpack it a little more
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for those who may not.
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We have folks who've
never studied the Bible,
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never read it?
00:17:01.85\00:17:02.98
Could you back up just a tad?
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- Yeah, let's do that.
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Let's talk a little
bit more specifically
00:17:06.02\00:17:07.56
about the Tower of
Babel and its repercussions.
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In fact, let's
answer a famous question
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that leads up to that.
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I've heard people say, "Well,
where did Cain get his wife?"
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Cain, Abel, and Seth.
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And they said, "Well, where's
all these girls they married?"
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Well, Genesis 5:4.
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If you get to Genesis 5,
00:17:21.64\00:17:22.97
it points out Adam and Eve
had other sons and daughters,
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so, there were boys and girls.
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- And I imagine that
they were quite fertile.
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- Yeah, they probably were
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because their
bodies were perfect.
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They probably didn't
have the genetic defects.
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I've got some
friends who can't have babies
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and it breaks my heart,
00:17:39.59\00:17:40.72
it breaks their
hearts in many respects too.
00:17:40.72\00:17:42.56
But that's due
to sending the curse
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and mutations that happen.
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- The gene pool at
the beginning was perfect.
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- Yeah, it really was.
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Now, originally brothers
and sisters could marry,
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that was okay.
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If you look back,
00:17:51.33\00:17:52.47
Abraham married
his half sister, Sarah.
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Moses' father actually
married his aunt, Jochebed.
00:17:54.27\00:17:56.60
- And after Sarah
died he married Keturah,
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I believe, his niece.
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- And so, you have all
these close intermarriages.
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It wasn't until Leviticus 18.
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Moses presenting the law,
00:18:07.65\00:18:09.28
God said, "No more
close intermarriage."
00:18:09.28\00:18:11.22
So, that all of a sudden.
00:18:11.22\00:18:12.62
- Because our genes
were breaking down enough
00:18:12.62\00:18:14.46
that, that was gonna start
00:18:14.46\00:18:15.26
or had started causing problems.
00:18:15.26\00:18:17.33
- And it makes a lot of sense.
00:18:17.33\00:18:18.23
Like right now,
00:18:18.23\00:18:19.29
if I were to marry
one of my two sisters,
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they're beautiful, by the
way, but that ain't happen.
00:18:21.06\00:18:23.47
(everyone laughing)
00:18:23.47\00:18:25.80
- We got that on camera.
00:18:25.80\00:18:27.07
- But I could have the same
genetic defects that she did
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because we got the
same ones from mom and dad.
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And of course,
if we had children
00:18:34.51\00:18:35.88
then it can show
in the offspring.
00:18:35.88\00:18:37.21
So, it makes sense why
we wouldn't wanna do that
00:18:37.21\00:18:40.02
to our children.
00:18:40.02\00:18:41.32
So God said, "Hey, let's
let's not do that any longer."
00:18:41.32\00:18:44.19
But before that it was okay,
00:18:44.19\00:18:45.32
so, brothers and
sisters could originally marry.
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Now, lead that up to
the time of the flood,
00:18:47.52\00:18:50.03
only eight people
survived the flood.
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You got three couples
there and they're brothers
00:18:51.73\00:18:54.50
when you think about that.
00:18:54.50\00:18:56.00
So, all of them
are also interrelated
00:18:56.00\00:18:58.30
and all their
children and grandchildren
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are closely interrelated.
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And then we get to the
events at the Tower of Babel
00:19:01.50\00:19:03.51
where everyone
starts to get split apart.
00:19:03.51\00:19:05.81
Some remain
right there at Babel,
00:19:05.81\00:19:07.44
some go as far as
Egypt, and Greece,
00:19:07.44\00:19:10.11
and different
areas in Mesopotamia,
00:19:10.11\00:19:11.78
others continue
out even farther.
00:19:11.78\00:19:14.02
Those are where those
early civilizations came from.
00:19:14.02\00:19:16.08
We oftentimes think
early civilizations,
00:19:16.08\00:19:17.89
you think of
Sumeria or Mesopotamia,
00:19:17.89\00:19:20.12
you think of the Indus Valley,
00:19:20.12\00:19:21.49
you think of Egypt or Greece,
00:19:21.49\00:19:23.43
those are those
areas in proximity
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not too far from where
the Tower of Babel was.
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So, it makes sense why those
were the early civilizations
00:19:27.36\00:19:30.43
but those were all
different related people
00:19:30.43\00:19:32.53
speaking
different languages now,
00:19:32.53\00:19:34.77
they're still
interacting with each other.
00:19:34.77\00:19:36.17
Others went further, some went
all the way up to the Orient.
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Now, what's interesting,
00:19:39.37\00:19:40.48
in Genesis 10 he
gives a breakdown
00:19:40.48\00:19:43.41
of all these
different family groups
00:19:43.41\00:19:45.58
that have a new language.
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Now, I don't know
if you're like me,
00:19:48.48\00:19:49.45
you've been in a Bible study
00:19:49.45\00:19:50.69
and you see what's coming,
00:19:50.69\00:19:52.32
and you're like,
"Please don't call on me
00:19:52.32\00:19:53.62
to read that chapter
that's got all those names."
00:19:53.62\00:19:55.82
(everyone laughing)
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And it ends up,
00:19:57.66\00:19:59.03
and you're like, "Oh, how
do I even pronounce these?"
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But Genesis 10 is like that,
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it's got some
pretty odd names in there.
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But you look at those names
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and a lot of times we have
no idea what those names are.
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I look at those names different
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now that I've
studied the subject
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and researched these people,
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those names are
found all over the world.
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It's absolutely amazing
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and sometimes you
don't realize that.
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- I love the etymology of words.
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- Well one of Noah's great
grandson's name was Ashkenaz.
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Ashkenaz actually moved up
just north of the Black Sea,
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the old name for the
Black Sea was the Ashken Sea,
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so you see a
reflection of that name.
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Well he moved on
up to Central Europe
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and he founded
the Germanic peoples.
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That included the
English, the Dutch,
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the Scandinavians and all that.
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Well, actually,
that word Scandinavian,
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where does that word come from?
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Ascandinavia is a
variation of Ashkanez,
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so is the name of Asaxon,
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that's where the
name Saxon comes from,
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we say, Anglos, and
Saxons and so forth.
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So, you still see a
reflection of that name.
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Every time you see
Egypt in the Old Testament
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the name behind
that as Mitzrayim.
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That's actually one
of Noah's grandsons.
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Egypt is called
by Noah's grandson.
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Canaan, the land of Canaan,
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Canaan is one of
Noah's grandsons.
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We don't
sometimes put that together
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but these are actual people
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that have
become names of places,
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we find that in
places all over the world.
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And I document a lot of that
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in that book,
"The Tower of Babel",
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it really is fascinating.
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- So, here we
are in planet earth
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in a time when everything
seemed like it's tearing apart,
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especially in the United States
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and certain other
locales because of race.
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Where does this go?
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And-
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- What should the
Christian response to it be?
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- Well, I think we still
need to deal with it head on.
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Christianity has the answer.
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You go back to the
Bible there's one race,
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that solves it right
there, it's that easy.
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But a lot of
people don't realize that.
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And I would suggest
one of the main reasons
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is because they've been taught
and conditioned by the world
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to believe a false worldview.
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So, we have to deal
with it at a worldview issue.
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I understand that a lot
of my friends and colleagues
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even in the science realm,
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if they bought into
the world's ideas on this,
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but sometimes I need to go back
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and say, "Hold
on a second here."
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Scientifically there's one race,
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they've been able to
map the human genome.
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And guess what, even the
secular researchers out here go,
00:22:01.82\00:22:04.19
"Wow, there's only one race."
00:22:04.19\00:22:06.45
That kinda surprised him
when that actually occurred.
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So, when you
look at the science,
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the science actually
is a good confirmation
00:22:11.96\00:22:13.33
of the Scripture.
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It's just a lot of
people don't realize that
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because like I said,
it's a worldview issue.
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People have bought into this
secular, humanistic worldview,
00:22:19.13\00:22:22.90
believing that there
are higher and lower races
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because they've been drilled
with an evolutionary worldview.
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- I won't mention his name,
00:22:28.34\00:22:30.08
but a very revered
Christian founder and leader,
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I came across
something that he had written
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about how it
didn't really matter
00:22:38.15\00:22:40.89
whether God created
in literal six days,
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or whether it was six
eons, millions of years,
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God can do anything.
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He goes, "It doesn't affect
your relationship with God
00:22:48.23\00:22:51.03
which way you believe."
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But I think it does reflect
your relationship to God,
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whether you believe in
what he said in Genesis
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or whether you buy
into the millions of years,
00:22:59.14\00:23:01.98
it's kind of just an accident.
00:23:01.98\00:23:04.45
- It makes our testimony
very inconsistent, doesn't it?
00:23:04.45\00:23:06.75
When they're saying, "Oh,
well, you got to follow Christ
00:23:06.75\00:23:09.02
up here, oh, but don't
believe this part of the Bible,
00:23:09.02\00:23:10.62
you got to reinterpret it."
00:23:10.62\00:23:12.52
What it is, is a
lot of Christians
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and I say this with a kindness
00:23:14.42\00:23:18.93
because I kind of
did this a little bit
00:23:18.93\00:23:20.36
when I was in college.
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Christians are taking
what they read in the Bible
00:23:21.90\00:23:24.00
and coming over
to the world's ideas
00:23:24.00\00:23:25.77
and trying to mix it.
00:23:25.77\00:23:27.20
They're trying to put
two different religions
00:23:27.20\00:23:28.70
and they don't mix,
so something has to give.
00:23:28.70\00:23:30.61
And usually what happens,
00:23:30.61\00:23:31.67
Christians start
giving up the Bible.
00:23:31.67\00:23:32.91
Maybe day doesn't mean a day,
00:23:32.91\00:23:34.01
maybe the evenings and mornings,
00:23:34.01\00:23:35.58
maybe Adam and Eve didn't exist.
00:23:35.58\00:23:37.11
Those are the kinds of
things that people start doing,
00:23:37.11\00:23:39.11
they start
throwing out the Bible.
00:23:39.11\00:23:40.65
They shouldn't do it that way,
00:23:40.65\00:23:42.02
the Bible should be
the absolute authority.
00:23:42.02\00:23:43.95
So, I actually
struggled with that
00:23:43.95\00:23:45.29
because I didn't know my,
well, God did create six days?
00:23:45.29\00:23:47.56
Here I was in science field,
00:23:47.56\00:23:49.06
I'm being taught and
drilled with Big Bang
00:23:49.06\00:23:51.13
and millions of years
00:23:51.13\00:23:52.26
and I didn't know how
to deal with some of that.
00:23:52.26\00:23:53.63
So, I actually toyed with
that idea trying to mix the two.
00:23:53.63\00:23:56.33
And I remember reading a,
00:23:56.33\00:23:58.93
this was from a Christian
guy who believed in Big Bang
00:23:58.93\00:24:01.94
and millions of years.
00:24:01.94\00:24:03.20
And I read his book
right next to the Bible.
00:24:03.20\00:24:05.31
And every time he
mentioned Genesis, or creation,
00:24:05.31\00:24:08.74
I went back and read it,
the whole thing in context.
00:24:08.74\00:24:11.55
I read Genesis chapter
one probably hundreds of times
00:24:11.55\00:24:13.92
as a result of just
going through this one book.
00:24:13.92\00:24:16.52
And when I got to the end I
remember shutting this book,
00:24:16.52\00:24:18.12
and I said, "If this is
the best Christianity has,
00:24:18.12\00:24:20.69
do I wanna be a Christian?"
00:24:20.69\00:24:21.89
I remember thinking that.
00:24:21.89\00:24:23.83
And then I sat down
00:24:23.83\00:24:25.16
and I remember looking at
the Bible just sitting there.
00:24:25.16\00:24:27.03
And you know what?
00:24:27.03\00:24:27.86
God's never wrong.
00:24:27.86\00:24:28.96
So, God is
right, this guy's wrong.
00:24:28.96\00:24:30.97
But that was tough for me
00:24:30.97\00:24:32.07
'cause I
struggled with that issue.
00:24:32.07\00:24:33.40
See, God is the one who's always
right, God is always right.
00:24:33.40\00:24:37.07
- And if have an
idea that doesn't match
00:24:37.07\00:24:39.51
guess who's gone off course.
00:24:39.51\00:24:40.88
- That's right,
and you know what?
00:24:40.88\00:24:41.98
That was tough
for someone like me
00:24:41.98\00:24:43.38
'cause I had to go, "Okay,
I got to stop believing this.
00:24:43.38\00:24:45.58
I got to stop believing
00:24:45.58\00:24:46.68
and I gotta get back
to God and His word."
00:24:46.68\00:24:48.25
And you know what?
00:24:48.25\00:24:49.25
There is some
academic pride in there
00:24:49.25\00:24:50.52
and it's just a struggle.
00:24:50.52\00:24:51.72
You've got to humble yourself
00:24:51.72\00:24:53.02
and say, "Okay, Lord,
you're the one that's right."
00:24:53.02\00:24:55.22
But you know what?
00:24:55.22\00:24:56.02
Once you get in the habit
00:24:56.02\00:24:57.36
of going, "God, you're
always right," guess what?
00:24:57.36\00:24:58.39
I can read
something in the Bible.
00:24:58.39\00:24:59.19
Go, "Oh, hold on a second,
00:24:59.19\00:25:01.33
okay, I see what you're
saying, God, I got this wrong."
00:25:01.33\00:25:04.13
But God, it's not just a matter
00:25:04.13\00:25:06.43
of you either believe in science
00:25:06.43\00:25:08.14
or you just go on blind
faith of what God said is right
00:25:08.14\00:25:11.34
because he gives
us plenty of evidence
00:25:11.34\00:25:14.28
that what he says is
right. - Oh, He sure does.
00:25:14.28\00:25:15.81
Yeah, and see a lot of
people don't understand this.
00:25:15.81\00:25:18.41
They don't realize
00:25:18.41\00:25:19.78
that science is actually
an incredible confirmation
00:25:19.78\00:25:21.22
of the Bible.
00:25:21.22\00:25:22.28
A lot of times
people wanna take science
00:25:22.28\00:25:23.85
and they say, "Oh,
well, that's the same thing
00:25:23.85\00:25:25.19
as evolution, Big Bang."
00:25:25.19\00:25:26.55
No, it's not, science is
observable and repeatable,
00:25:26.55\00:25:28.42
it is a process.
00:25:28.42\00:25:29.56
Nobody has observed
or repeated the Big Bang,
00:25:29.56\00:25:31.26
or millions of
years of evolution,
00:25:31.26\00:25:33.16
nobody's ever observed
or repeated those things,
00:25:33.16\00:25:34.76
that's part of religion.
00:25:34.76\00:25:36.03
See, science actually
comes out of a worldview
00:25:36.03\00:25:38.57
that is based on
God and His word.
00:25:38.57\00:25:40.70
And sometimes people
don't quite get that.
00:25:40.70\00:25:43.00
Let me explain, let me
unpack that part for you.
00:25:43.00\00:25:45.14
- We don't have a lot of
time so get unpacking quickly.
00:25:45.14\00:25:46.98
- Okay, let me
unpack that quick.
00:25:46.98\00:25:48.64
God is the one who
sustains and upholds the world
00:25:48.64\00:25:51.38
and he has promised to
do so in a particular way.
00:25:51.38\00:25:53.82
That's what makes observable,
repeatable science possible,
00:25:53.82\00:25:56.62
science actually comes
out of a biblical worldview.
00:25:56.62\00:25:58.92
And most fields of science
00:25:58.92\00:26:00.06
were actually
developed by Bible believers.
00:26:00.06\00:26:01.79
- Just real quickly,
00:26:01.79\00:26:03.66
if you can give
one minute counsel
00:26:03.66\00:26:06.16
on people who are having
trouble with this right now
00:26:06.16\00:26:08.43
in their lives.
00:26:08.43\00:26:09.50
- Yeah, you know what?
00:26:09.50\00:26:10.60
A lot of people I
know have struggled
00:26:10.60\00:26:11.67
with the issue of race.
00:26:11.67\00:26:12.93
In fact, sometimes
somebody may have been racist
00:26:12.93\00:26:15.20
toward them
00:26:15.20\00:26:16.57
or sometimes they may have
been racist to someone else.
00:26:16.57\00:26:17.64
Sometimes they may
not have realized it.
00:26:17.64\00:26:19.41
But here's what I want
people to gather out of that.
00:26:19.41\00:26:22.41
The Lord is a
forgiving God, just repent.
00:26:22.41\00:26:26.48
Don't be afraid to go to
somebody say, "Hey, you know
00:26:26.48\00:26:28.12
what? I may have
treated you wrong."
00:26:28.12\00:26:29.48
Or if you can't find 'em,
ask God, "Hey, forgive me."
00:26:29.48\00:26:32.69
And let's get
back to God's word,
00:26:32.69\00:26:34.06
let's get back to the fact
that there's only one race,
00:26:34.06\00:26:35.92
the human race,
and we're all related.
00:26:35.92\00:26:38.33
And we're all stuck
in this problem together
00:26:38.33\00:26:41.03
but there's a
solution in Jesus Christ.
00:26:41.03\00:26:42.80
- Amen, Amen.
00:26:42.80\00:26:44.13
Folks, there isn't a
racist bone in the body of God.
00:26:44.13\00:26:48.17
God didn't create us as racist.
00:26:48.17\00:26:51.64
You just heard Bodie say it,
00:26:51.64\00:26:53.14
there's one blood,
one race, one humankind.
00:26:53.14\00:26:57.08
We're all one family.
00:26:57.08\00:26:59.01
We need to look to Jesus
Christ and pray for this earth,
00:26:59.01\00:27:01.95
pray for United
States, and the world,
00:27:01.95\00:27:04.92
and what's going on right now
00:27:04.92\00:27:06.05
'cause the devil
is having a field day.
00:27:06.05\00:27:08.22
Bodie, thank you so
much, appreciate it.
00:27:09.36\00:27:10.93
- God bless you guys.
00:27:10.93\00:27:12.03
- I'm so glad we got a
chance to sit with you.
00:27:12.03\00:27:14.00
My grandmother was number
11 in a family of 13 girls
00:27:15.36\00:27:20.17
and she sometimes
felt lost in the crowd.
00:27:21.24\00:27:23.61
Do you ever feel that way?
00:27:23.61\00:27:25.77
But there is
someone who notices.
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