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- Welcome, everyone.
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We're excited to share
some country wisdom with you.
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- King Solomon had
a thing or two to say
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about the path to wisdom.
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In Proverbs 4, he wrote,
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"Let your eyes
look directly forward
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and your gaze be
straight before you.
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Keep straight
the path of your feet
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and all your ways will be sure."
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- Join us now
for "Country Wisdom".
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(thunder rambling)
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(gentle ancient music)
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- There's a storm coming.
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That means any minute now
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my grandchildren
will start appearing.
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The little ones first,
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but the older ones
won't be far behind.
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All of them scrambling for
the safety of grandma's lap.
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They know their grandmother
isn't afraid of any storm.
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And soon one of them is
bound to ask to hear it again.
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The story of the Great Storm.
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How God decided to
rid his world of evil,
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how he decided to send the rain,
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and how we asked
grandpa Noah to build a boat.
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- Tim, thank you
for being with us today.
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There, I wanna
introduce you to Tim Chaffey,
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content director
or content manager?
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- Content manager, yep.
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- Content manager of The Ark.
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- Yeah. (all laughing)
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- That's incredible.
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- That sounds pretty cool
when you say it like that.
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- Oh, yeah, it's a... -
Noah could have used him.
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(Tim laughing)
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- Yes, absolutely, absolutely.
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- No, he was
busy building things.
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I just write things.
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(Tim and Janice laughing)
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- You have
three master's degrees
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and I guess you're
working on a doctorate too.
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- Yes.
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- What's the area?
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Because people wonder, content
management, what is that?
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- Well, I'm
responsible for researching
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and writing the
signage that you read
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when you go
through the Ark Encounter
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or through the Creation Museum,
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our sister facility,
about 40 miles from here.
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And so, I work
with an incredible team.
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I've got an assistant
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who kinda handles all
things animal-related.
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So he sticks his nose in
fossil books all day long.
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How boring, but he loves it.
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And that's great.
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You know, God brought
the right person for the job.
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And then I get to
do what I love to do,
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and that is to study God's word
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and, you know,
figure things out.
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How are we gonna
teach this important message
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to the people coming through?
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- I've gotta tell you,
I've read several of your books,
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including your "Noah" trilogy.
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- Oh, thank you.
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- Which is
particularly appropriate today.
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- Yeah, it's kind of
like the official backstory
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for Noah and his family
at the Ark Encounter, yeah.
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- Right.
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And I'm trying not to
do a full-on fan girl here.
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(Tim and Jim laughing)
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So like, it's Tim Chaffey.
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(all laughing)
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Because of my age,
that would not be dignified.
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(Tim laughing) So I'm
trying to pretend like,
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oh, I talk to people
like this all the time.
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(Tim and Jim laughing)
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It's normal.
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- Oh, I'm flattered.
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(Tim laughing)
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- Now, it is interesting, in
Genesis, chapter six, you know,
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basically God said,
"Noah, the whole Earth is evil.
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I'm going to
destroy it by a flood,
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so make an Ark of gopher wood."
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I'm curious,
what's this made of?
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- Yeah, what is gopher wood?
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- What's gopher wood?
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Well, that's a great question.
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We get asked that a lot.
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We used to, people
would say all the time,
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"Hey, are you gonna make it out
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of the same
thing that Noah did?"
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And I would
always say, "Yeah, wood."
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(Jim laughing)
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(indistinct)
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Are you gonna make
it out of gopher wood?
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Well, what's gopher wood?
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I mean, Genesis 6:14.
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It appears that's the
only time in the Bible
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that word is ever used.
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And it doesn't
describe, you know, what it is.
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So some people have
guessed over the years,
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maybe it was
cypress, maybe it was cedar.
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But what they're doing is
looking at the region of the
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world where the Ark landed and
saying what kind of wood grows,
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you know, trees
grow in this area
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that would be
suitable for building an ark?
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But that's not
the right approach
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because the world was so
different before the flood.
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You know, according to
Peter, that world perished.
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- It's quite
possible it isn't something
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that we even have anymore.
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- Right, it's possible gopher
wood doesn't exist anymore.
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So we don't know
what kind of wood that was
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other than just
what the Bible calls it.
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And there's a lot of
speculation about what it was.
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If you are really interested
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in how much we don't
know about gopher wood,
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I've got an article on the
"Answers In Genesis" website
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(all laughing)
about the mystery.
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I think it's "The
Mystery of the Ark's Lumber"
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and three or 4,000 words
about how much we don't know
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about gopher wood.
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But what I can tell you
is that some of the trees
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that came from
gopher wood, you know,
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through the years,
assuming it survived,
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we know the Ark survived and
that was made from gopher wood,
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but assuming
some gopher wood trees
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were replanted and regrew,
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if what we call them
today are Douglas fir
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or Engelmann spruce,
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then we built the
Ark out of gopher wood
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because of the two of the
major timbers in the Ark, but...
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- Okay, all right.
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Now, you pointed
to the Ark and said,
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"And the Ark
was here", you know,
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but this isn't the real
Ark, (indistinct), so...
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- Right, that's
not the Noah's Ark.
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That is our
reconstruction of Noah's Ark...
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- [Janice] Yes, we
should make a disclaimer.
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- According to the
biblical specification.
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- And you mentioned
that things aren't the same.
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Give us a little idea of
what it was prior to the flood.
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What the Earth was like.
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- Or what it may have been?
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- Yeah, so we
believe that the Earth,
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that there was one continent
on the Earth at that time.
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The Bible says in
Genesis, chapter one,
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"All the water was
gathered together in one place."
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Which seems, to
imply, land was in one place.
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The description of that land
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in Genesis chapter
two doesn't match anywhere
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on Earth today.
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You know, sometimes people say,
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"Oh, the Garden of
Eden was in the Middle East
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because it talks
about Tigris and Euphrates."
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Well, that's two
rivers that become one.
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What the Bible
describes is one river
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that becomes four, and
the Tigris and Euphrates,
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there's just two of those.
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So, it's not the same place.
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That world was destroyed
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and completely
wiped out by the flood.
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The Garden of Eden is
probably buried underneath,
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you know, thousands
of feet of sediment.
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So that's a big difference.
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What people were eating,
you know, prior to the flood,
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God told man he
was to eat vegetation
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and it's not
until after the flood,
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that he permit man to eat meat.
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One of my favorite
verses, Genesis 9:3,
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"Every living thing that
moves shall be food for you."
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- It's really interesting
that after the flood,
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you watch the age of
man come down, down, down,
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because he became a meat eater.
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(all laughing)
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Kind of interesting.
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- Yeah, I think
there's other reasons for it.
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- But also height.
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Right?
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It seems that...
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- Well, his didn't cut that.
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(all laughing) -
Yeah, that's true, yeah.
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- Yeah, that one
we're not really sure
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because we don't know how
tall man was prior to the flood.
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The Bible discusses
giants in Genesis 6:4,
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but other than that...
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- There are fossils, I
mean, here in the U.S.,
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they have found human remains
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that are much more like
you than they are like me.
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(Tim and Jim laughing)
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- Well, even without getting
it, those would be post-flood.
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You know, the different
skeletons that they find though,
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they're all post-flood.
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So we don't know what
people would be pre-flood.
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As far as we know, we
don't have any human artifact
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or human remains from pre-flood.
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- So how did you
do your research?
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I mentioned the "Noah" trilogy.
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That is a favorite of mine.
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How did you,
what did you research?
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How did you come up
with such a fascinating story
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and all those
details that you put into it?
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- Yeah, so it started with...
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We have an exhibit
on deck two called,
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"Who Was Noah and How
Could He Build the Ark?"
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So, what I was asked to do,
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is write a
plausible backstory for Noah.
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How could he have
acquired the skills
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that he obviously
had to build the Ark?
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You know, it's more
than just carpentry.
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It's more than
just shipbuilding.
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He's also got to manage a
crew, all the different things.
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And so I got this
idea that, you know,
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typically people
think of Noah as a,
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"Oh, he was a
preacher who went around
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and preached to everybody."
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Well, that's not really
how the Bible describes,
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(indistinct) he's a
preacher of righteousness.
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The Bible tells us
that in the New Testament,
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it never said anything
like that in the Old Testament.
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And of course they agree,
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I'm not telling
there's a contradiction.
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But I don't think
that was his occupation.
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In fact, when Jesus
talks about the flood,
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he says the people did
not know until the flood came
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and took them all the way.
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It's as if most of the
people really didn't know
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that this was gonna happen.
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We tend to think of
it... - Or didn't believe,
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you know, they just...
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- Right, and
even if (indistinct).
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- Thought he was
the crazy old man.
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- Yeah, or, I mean, even
if he told a lot of people,
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there's still likely millions
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or hundreds of millions
of people around the world.
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He didn't reach everybody.
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I mean, we have this huge
ark here and we have mass media
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and we have ads on
some of the major networks
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and I'll bet over 50% of
the people in the country
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have never even heard of it.
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- I am curious, how many people
do you get here each year?
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- Well, before the
whole COVID thing hit,
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we had about a million
people a year on average.
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And then this past
summer has been fantastic.
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We've had a lot
of people come back,
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even without
the large bus groups
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that we used to
have all the time.
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So we still had some
record numbers this summer,
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which has been great.
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But going back to your
question, what do you research,
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really pouring into
Genesis one through six,
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everything in
there is fair game.
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What could Noah know?
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How could he, you know,
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assuming that he doesn't
know everything that's coming
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in the rest of the Bible.
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So you gotta
limit yourself to just,
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really those six chapters,
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and, you know, how
could he figure things out?
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So I got the idea that maybe
he was already a ship builder,
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and people don't
usually think of that.
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But the way that
God often works is,
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he prepares you for the task
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that he has in store for you.
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And so rather than having Noah
be the expert on everything,
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we had his wife be somebody
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who's always had
an interest in animals
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and always loved,
you know, studying those.
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Well, not knowing
that those two skills
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would come in very handy
later in life for both of them.
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Because God
often does that, he...
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- I love the roles that you gave
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to the women
involved in the story
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because, well, let's face it,
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throughout the
Bible you often have,
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"Oh, yeah, and there
were some women there too",
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you know, at the end of a
story we're a little postscript.
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But in your trilogy,
women were a major part.
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- Yeah, well, I think it's...
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- As they would have been.
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- I think that
typically the case of...
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What's the saying,
I'll probably botch it,
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but, "Behind every strong
man there's a strong woman",
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or something like that.
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And I think
that's generally true.
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I... - 'Cause Janice says,
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this is really
near and dear to her
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because of your
graciousness, yesterday,
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we filmed a "Mrs. Noah".
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- [Janice] I do a
bit of a (indistinct).
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- [Tim] Oh, neat.
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Okay.
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- [Jim] So...
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- Well now, you know her name?
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No, I'm just kidding.
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(Jim and Janice laughing)
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The Bible
doesn't give us her name.
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So those things were, you know,
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the names of the
women were fictional and...
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So, yeah, it was just
interesting to try to dream up
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what that world would be like.
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But even in my case, you know,
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how does God
prepare somebody for a role?
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Well, for about 15 years,
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I was fascinated
with pre-flood world
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and reading everything
I could get my hands on.
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I didn't know
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that someday I was gonna
be doing this, what God knew.
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- So God was
preparing you at that time too?
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- Exactly, yep.
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And so when God told
Noah, "Build the Ark",
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he said, "I can
do that, how big?"
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"Oh."
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(all laughing)
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"Give me a little bit of time.
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It's gonna be
kind of big, but..."
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- Speaking of, tell me, Tim,
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give us the dimensions and
how did you arrive at those?
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- Because the... -
510 feet long, right?
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- [Tim] Yes.
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- See, I did my research.
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- Thank you, Tim.
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(Jim and Janice laughing)
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- [Tim] Yeah, so the
Bible gives us the dimensions
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of the Ark.
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It tells us that it was,
you know, 300 cubit by 50 cubit.
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- [Janice] And
then you had to decide
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what's a cubic? -
What's a cubit, yeah.
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We know that
cubit is this, but...
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- You might notice his
cubit would be just a tad longer
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than mine.
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(crosstalk and laughter)
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- Mine is 22 inches
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because I'm about a six
foot eight, six foot nine.
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And so, my cubit's pretty large.
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But if Noah
would have used mine,
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the Ark would have been even
longer than what you see here.
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Typically, what
people will do is say,
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"Well, the common
cubit is 18 inches."
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That's what you'll
see in a lot of Bibles.
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Some of the modern
ones, we'll see 17.5 inches.
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And the reason for
that is the discovery
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of Hezekiah's
tunnel in Jerusalem.
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Yeah, that was...
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- [Jim] Tell us more about that.
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- So that was a tunnel
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that they used for
water and everything.
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That was dug
during Hezekiah's time.
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And so you're looking at, you
know, centuries before Jesus,
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but thousands
of years after Noah
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and it was built on a
17 and a half inch cubit.
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So that's why people think,
oh, that was the common cubit.
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Well, it's the common
cubit in Hezekiah's day.
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We don't know what Noah used.
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And what we do know is
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that throughout
the ancient Near East,
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in Egypt and Syria and
all these different places,
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they all used cubits,
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but they all had
different length cubits.
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So we had to pick one, and so...
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- It's not a measurement that
you just pulled out of a hat.
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You know, let's
throw the dice and see...
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- Right.
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- How many inches
are cubits gonna be.
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- So what we did is, we took
the 17 and a half inch cubit.
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But what we also recognized
throughout history is,
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a lot of those
ancient building projects,
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whether it's
pyramids or temples,
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a lot of them are built
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on what's called a "long
cubit" or a "royal cubit".
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So you add it with the four
fingers and then to the cubit.
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And so that's about
2.9 inches to three inches.
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So we have it...
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- Moses who
wrote, was royalty, so...
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- Yeah, yeah.
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He would have been familiar
with what was going on in Egypt.
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And so that a 20.4 inch cubit
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and the 17.5
plus the 2.9 inches.
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So we used the
20.4 inch cubit here.
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That gives you an
ark of 510 feet in length
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and it is, you know, 51
feet tall and 85 feet wide.
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And then it's taller than that
00:12:44.16\00:12:45.56
because it's up on these
pillars that are 14 feet tall,
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and then you've got
the (indistinct) up there.
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- Because one criticism
of the whole flood story,
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you have people who say,
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"Well, he couldn't have
gotten all the animals",
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(Tim chuckling)
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you know, two of
every kind of animal.
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"You can't, can't be done."
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And part of your
purpose here is to show,
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well, yes, it could have been.
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- Oh, absolutely, yeah.
00:14:01.24\00:14:02.74
Yeah, so, a lot of
times people don't recognize
00:14:02.74\00:14:04.51
how big the Ark is.
00:14:04.51\00:14:05.77
And so, when people
would give me that line,
00:14:05.77\00:14:08.01
like, "Oh, there's no
way you can fit the animals."
00:14:08.01\00:14:09.38
"Well, how big was the Ark?"
00:14:09.38\00:14:11.35
"Well, I don't
know, but there's no way
00:14:11.35\00:14:12.38
you could fit them on there."
00:14:12.38\00:14:13.28
(Jim and Janice laughing)
00:14:13.28\00:14:14.25
"Okay, well, how many animals?"
00:14:14.25\00:14:15.58
"I don't know, but
there's no way you can fit."
00:14:15.58\00:14:17.12
So they don't even know the
two things they have to know
00:14:17.12\00:14:18.35
and they tell
you it can't be done
00:14:18.35\00:14:19.79
because they're just
repeating what they've heard.
00:14:19.79\00:14:21.19
And they try to imagine
every single type of animal
00:14:21.19\00:14:24.73
they've ever seen.
00:14:24.73\00:14:25.99
- Not understanding...
- Not understanding...
00:14:25.99\00:14:27.20
- Two of each
kind. - Two of each kind.
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And they'll say, "Well,
that's just a made up category."
00:14:28.96\00:14:30.80
All of the categories
we come up with are just...
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You can classify
animals however you want to,
00:14:33.30\00:14:34.87
by brown animals
and by their color,
00:14:34.87\00:14:37.41
by the number of leg.
00:14:37.41\00:14:38.64
You can classify
them how you want to.
00:14:38.64\00:14:40.34
We just have a system
that we've kind of accepted
00:14:40.34\00:14:42.41
for the last
couple hundred years.
00:14:42.41\00:14:44.05
You know, with family,
genus, species and so on.
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And...
00:14:47.12\00:14:48.25
- So what would
kind relate to...
00:14:48.25\00:14:49.58
- Kind is...
00:14:49.58\00:14:50.72
- In those terms
that we're used to?
00:14:50.72\00:14:51.49
- Yeah, yeah.
00:14:51.49\00:14:52.82
Kind is roughly
equivalent to the family level.
00:14:52.82\00:14:54.42
So if animals can interbreed,
they belong to the same kind.
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So, you know, here at the
zoo, right behind the Ark here,
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we've got a zonkey and a zorse,
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(Janice laughing)
00:15:02.73\00:15:03.93
which are the cross
between a, you know,
00:15:03.93\00:15:05.20
a zebra and a donkey
and a zebra and a horse.
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And those are the
same kind of animal.
00:15:07.27\00:15:10.54
And the same thing would be true
00:15:10.54\00:15:11.87
with like camels
and llamas and alpacas.
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They belong to the same kind.
00:15:13.98\00:15:15.34
So Noah doesn't need two
camels, two alpacas, two llamas.
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They belong to the same family.
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With dogs, I mean, wolves and
coyotes and dingoes and foxes,
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those are all different species.
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There's like 14
different species of foxes.
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They're all part of the dog
kind, Noah just needs two dogs.
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- I love, I was
listening to Ken Ham one time
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when he was talking about,
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there were no
poodles on the Ark.
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- [Jim] No, there
weren't. (all laughing)
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- You don't like poodles. - No.
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- No, poodles are, you know,
00:15:36.43\00:15:37.57
just the last
couple of hundred years
00:15:37.57\00:15:39.10
as people are breeding, you
know, getting runts together
00:15:39.10\00:15:41.07
and breeding them and
getting more runts together
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and breeding them and getting
this kind of a useless dog.
00:15:42.64\00:15:45.61
(Tim laughing)
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(crosstalk)
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- The original, whatever
it was Noah had with him,
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had the ability
in those genes...
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- Yes.
00:15:53.68\00:15:54.58
- To someday create poodles.
00:15:54.58\00:15:55.65
- It had the
genetic variability.
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- [Janice] For
better or for worse.
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- Right, and so
people look at it and say,
00:15:58.12\00:15:58.95
"Isn't that evolution?"
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No, it's the exact
opposite of evolution.
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What we're saying
is that these two dogs
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on Ark, they had
the genetic variability
00:16:02.96\00:16:04.59
for all that we see
today in the dog kind.
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What evolutionary...
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And then what happens,
00:16:08.96\00:16:10.13
as you think about
the different breeds,
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they're losing
genetic information.
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That's why the purebreds,
that we call purebreds,
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they're often very sick
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and they gotta go to
the vet all the time,
00:16:16.81\00:16:17.77
but a mutt can survive anything
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because it's got
much more variability.
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- [Jim] Yeah.
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- And so it's actually
the opposite of evolution
00:16:22.91\00:16:25.88
and evolution
would require a gain
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of new genetic information
every step of the way.
00:16:27.75\00:16:29.72
And we've never observed that.
00:16:29.72\00:16:30.92
- So as time goes on,
00:16:30.92\00:16:32.05
they'd be able to
create more and more
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and different and different.
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And we find just the opposite.
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- Right, yep.
00:16:36.16\00:16:37.69
- Now, I guess you
wrote everything in there too.
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You wrote in there,
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last night I was able to
get in just for a second.
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You've got the gallons of
water that the place would hold
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and how many animals?
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Can you give us a
rundown on how massive it was
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and how organized everything?
00:16:52.94\00:16:54.48
- That surprised me,
because I would tend to think,
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just hold a cup
outside the window,
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(Tim and Jim laughing) you know,
00:16:58.41\00:16:59.35
and you're gonna get water.
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And it had not occurred to me
00:17:00.62\00:17:02.05
that they would
need water storage.
00:17:02.05\00:17:04.79
You know, doesn't it
seem counter intuitive
00:17:04.79\00:17:07.29
that you'd need to
be able to get a lot?
00:17:07.29\00:17:08.46
- You know, you
got a lot of animals.
00:17:08.46\00:17:09.92
It's tough to get enough
in a cup in one day, but...
00:17:09.92\00:17:11.43
- Well, what we did is, we
tried several different methods.
00:17:11.43\00:17:14.30
How do we wanna
approach this too
00:17:14.30\00:17:15.53
and have potable
water for all 12 months?
00:17:15.53\00:17:18.00
Well, that's not
usually a good idea
00:17:18.00\00:17:19.67
because it doesn't
usually keep real well.
00:17:19.67\00:17:21.40
So what we did is,
00:17:21.40\00:17:22.60
let's plan for three
months of potable water.
00:17:22.60\00:17:23.84
And then we had
it, is there a way
00:17:23.84\00:17:25.84
that they could
collect rainwater off the roof?
00:17:25.84\00:17:28.34
And given the roof of that
size, we did the calculations.
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You would need, on average,
one inch of rain per week
00:17:31.71\00:17:34.82
in order to have
enough water for the people,
00:17:34.82\00:17:36.62
for all the animals,
for washing the stalls,
00:17:36.62\00:17:38.42
for everything that you
need, one inch of rain per week.
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Do you think they
got that during the flood
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and during the subsequent month?
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Well, we get, right
in this area of Kentucky,
00:17:43.86\00:17:45.86
guess how much rain
we averaged on a year?
00:17:45.86\00:17:47.66
- A lot more than we
do on our area California.
00:17:47.66\00:17:49.23
- Yes.
00:17:49.23\00:17:50.63
One inch of rain, we have
the exact right amount here.
00:17:50.63\00:17:53.34
And so as long as it
rained, what it does here,
00:17:53.34\00:17:55.67
then you have enough water
00:17:55.67\00:17:57.34
and they would've had
much more rain than that.
00:17:57.34\00:18:00.74
So, they easily could
have had enough for it.
00:18:00.74\00:18:03.28
- How many animal, how
many kinds do you have?
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- Yeah, so the
total number of kinds,
00:18:04.41\00:18:05.88
we had to go
through and do the research,
00:18:05.88\00:18:07.85
and we had to figure out,
not just the still living kinds,
00:18:07.85\00:18:10.79
but also those
that have gone extinct
00:18:10.79\00:18:12.15
since the time of the flood.
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How many kinds of
animals would there be?
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And what we often hear is,
00:18:15.39\00:18:16.73
"How could you fit
millions of species?", and...
00:18:16.73\00:18:18.19
- [Janice] Right.
00:18:18.19\00:18:19.36
- But we've
already talked about the,
00:18:19.36\00:18:20.56
how we're not
talking about species.
00:18:20.56\00:18:21.46
We're talking about kinds.
00:18:21.46\00:18:22.63
And when they say
millions of species,
00:18:22.63\00:18:23.87
they're
including all the insects.
00:18:23.87\00:18:25.57
Noah doesn't have to bring
the insects on board the Ark.
00:18:25.57\00:18:27.14
They're not breathing
air through their nostril.
00:18:27.14\00:18:29.67
They don't have nostrils.
00:18:29.67\00:18:31.11
They don't have the life
of the flushes in the blood.
00:18:31.11\00:18:32.47
They don't have blood.
00:18:32.47\00:18:33.38
They don't go two by two.
00:18:33.38\00:18:34.68
- I really wish he
would've not taken spiders.
00:18:34.68\00:18:35.44
- Oh, me too.
00:18:35.44\00:18:37.01
(Jim laughing)
00:18:37.01\00:18:38.25
Completely get rid of
those, and mosquitoes,
00:18:38.25\00:18:39.28
we can do without fine.
00:18:39.28\00:18:40.18
- You found a friend here.
00:18:40.18\00:18:40.98
- Yes. - Yeah.
00:18:40.98\00:18:41.85
(Tim and Jim laughing)
00:18:41.85\00:18:43.25
- I'm okay with snakes,
but spiders, the big ones,
00:18:43.25\00:18:44.35
yeah, they creep me out.
00:18:44.35\00:18:45.32
(Tim and Janice laughing)
00:18:45.32\00:18:46.25
- Oh, even the little ones.
00:18:46.25\00:18:47.22
They don't have to be big, yeah.
00:18:47.22\00:18:48.09
(Tim laughing)
00:18:48.09\00:18:50.09
- So the total number of kinds,
00:18:50.09\00:18:51.63
and this is
probably an overestimate
00:18:51.63\00:18:53.63
because what we were doing is,
00:18:53.63\00:18:54.56
if we don't
have the proof at all
00:18:54.56\00:18:56.06
that these belong in the
same kind, we separate them out.
00:18:56.06\00:18:58.97
Even though they probably do.
00:18:58.97\00:19:00.84
For example,
bats, there're 18 living
00:19:00.84\00:19:03.47
of families of
bats in the world today
00:19:03.47\00:19:05.24
and five or six
extinct families of bats.
00:19:05.24\00:19:07.54
There's a good likelihood they
all belong to the same kind,
00:19:08.74\00:19:10.95
but we don't have all the
hybridization data we need.
00:19:10.95\00:19:13.11
So we separated
them out into 24 kinds.
00:19:13.11\00:19:15.15
And because they're flying
creatures, we brought 14 of
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each. We have over
300 bats on the Ark.
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Noah might've just needed seven.
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- And these are
not alive, right?
00:19:20.56\00:19:21.66
- Right. (Janice laughing)
00:19:21.66\00:19:22.96
- For anybody
watching, let's come to the Ark.
00:19:22.96\00:19:23.83
- Right. (crosstalk)
00:19:23.83\00:19:25.36
- I'm not going in there.
- They're not supposed to be,
00:19:25.36\00:19:26.39
maybe some God in there.
00:19:26.39\00:19:27.23
(Tim and Jim laughing)
00:19:27.23\00:19:29.00
So the total number of kinds
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that we've calculated is
just under 1400, it's 1398.
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And the total number of
animals is fewer than 6,700.
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- [Janice] 'Cause
it wasn't just two.
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People think two of everything.
00:19:38.11\00:19:39.51
- Right, it's two of every kind
00:19:39.51\00:19:41.34
and then it's seven or
seven pairs of the clean animals
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and all the flying creatures.
00:19:46.18\00:19:48.02
And so, it depends,
00:19:48.02\00:19:49.75
are you gonna do
seven, are you gonna do 14?
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And our approach was to
do a worst case scenario.
00:19:51.32\00:19:54.86
So every time you
have a decision to make
00:19:54.86\00:19:56.09
between a lower
number or a higher number,
00:19:56.09\00:19:57.66
and you can't be sure...
- [Janice] Get the higher.
00:19:57.66\00:19:58.89
- You always go
with the higher number,
00:19:58.89\00:20:00.23
because we're trying to
show they could all fit.
00:20:00.23\00:20:01.50
And if we always
took the lower number,
00:20:01.50\00:20:02.96
people are gonna
say, "Oh, you cheated."
00:20:02.96\00:20:04.33
No, we are probably
overestimated by quite a bit.
00:20:04.33\00:20:06.60
And what we found is, when
you calculate all the water,
00:20:06.60\00:20:09.94
all the food, everything that
you need and all the animals,
00:20:09.94\00:20:12.87
everything fits just right.
00:20:12.87\00:20:14.78
Which, that's
what you would expect,
00:20:14.78\00:20:16.38
because God is the one
who told Noah how to...
00:20:16.38\00:20:17.65
- [Jim] God
designed... (crosstalk)
00:20:17.65\00:20:18.88
- He's not gonna
say, "Build it this size
00:20:18.88\00:20:20.15
so that it's just
a little too small.
00:20:20.15\00:20:21.38
You can't get the
animals in it", or,
00:20:21.38\00:20:22.88
"Make it way too big, so
it's gonna be a lot harder
00:20:22.88\00:20:24.79
to keep it afloat and spend
a lot more time building it."
00:20:24.79\00:20:27.29
It's gonna be just right,
00:20:27.29\00:20:28.52
because God knows
how big it needs to be.
00:20:28.52\00:20:30.33
- Sounds like one of
your gospel bands is starting.
00:20:30.33\00:20:32.89
(crosstalk)
00:20:32.89\00:20:34.36
- Yeah, we're in
the middle of our 40-40.
00:20:34.36\00:20:37.00
40 days and 40 nights
of music here at the Ark.
00:20:37.00\00:20:39.20
And so we've got music
going on at the Answer Center.
00:20:39.20\00:20:42.20
And then we've also got an
outdoor concert going on as
00:20:42.20\00:20:45.24
well, and...
00:20:45.24\00:20:46.74
- And you have some
pretty good groups coming in.
00:20:46.74\00:20:49.08
- Yeah, there are
some very well-known groups
00:20:49.08\00:20:51.71
that have been, I
think Selah has been here
00:20:51.71\00:20:53.82
and some other.
00:20:53.82\00:20:54.62
A lot of...
00:20:54.62\00:20:55.58
It's mostly all southern gospel.
00:20:55.58\00:20:57.55
So if that's...
00:20:57.55\00:20:58.79
- What you would
expect for Kentucky.
00:20:58.79\00:20:59.65
(all laughing)
00:20:59.65\00:21:01.22
- Tim... - I grew
up in the eighties,
00:21:01.22\00:21:02.69
so I was kind of hoping
for something more of that,
00:21:02.69\00:21:03.56
but, yeah.
00:21:03.56\00:21:04.49
(all laughing)
00:21:04.49\00:21:05.93
- With the Ark Encounter,
and it truly is an encounter.
00:21:05.93\00:21:07.50
I mean, it's,
you know, incredible.
00:21:07.50\00:21:09.06
How long does it
take people to go through?
00:21:09.06\00:21:11.67
- You know, it depends on
the type of person, you know.
00:21:11.67\00:21:13.77
- I'm the kind who goes
through and I read everything.
00:21:13.77\00:21:16.34
- Then you wanna give yourself
all day just for the Ark.
00:21:16.34\00:21:18.97
There are some people like...
00:21:18.97\00:21:19.81
- Can I have all day?
00:21:19.81\00:21:20.78
- No. (Tim laughing)
00:21:20.78\00:21:21.94
- You're not
gonna get me all day.
00:21:21.94\00:21:23.28
- You know, one of my
bosses, he's a looker.
00:21:23.28\00:21:24.45
He just looks at
things real quick,
00:21:24.45\00:21:25.91
and he reads the
headline and then he moves on.
00:21:25.91\00:21:26.95
But he also touches everything.
00:21:26.95\00:21:27.92
(all laughing)
00:21:27.92\00:21:29.15
So there's some
people like that.
00:21:29.15\00:21:30.62
And so you wanna give
yourself a couple of hours
00:21:30.62\00:21:31.82
if you've got that.
00:21:31.82\00:21:32.99
Sometimes if
you've got younger kids,
00:21:32.99\00:21:34.59
you know, it can be
hard with the younger kids,
00:21:34.59\00:21:36.93
they'll get a little bit tired
00:21:36.93\00:21:38.33
by the time they get,
you know, through deck two.
00:21:38.33\00:21:40.40
We've got a playground
here, we've got ziplines,
00:21:40.40\00:21:42.43
we've got the zoo,
so you can always leave,
00:21:42.43\00:21:44.43
go out and do those
things for a little while
00:21:44.43\00:21:45.87
and then return for deck three.
00:21:45.87\00:21:47.14
- [Janice] You
can do the zipline.
00:21:47.14\00:21:48.27
(Jim laughing)
00:21:48.27\00:21:49.24
- [Tim] Yeah, oh, they're fun.
00:21:49.24\00:21:50.47
- [Janice] I'm not
going near a zipline.
00:21:50.47\00:21:51.71
(Tim laughing)
- [Jim] All right.
00:21:51.71\00:21:52.41
- They're safe.
00:21:52.41\00:21:53.64
If they can hold
me, it can hold you.
00:21:53.64\00:21:54.64
- I know the theory.
00:21:54.64\00:21:55.81
(Tim and Janice laughing)
00:21:55.81\00:21:57.45
But you're still not
getting me up on that tower.
00:21:57.45\00:21:59.21
(Tim and Janice laughing)
00:21:59.21\00:22:00.45
- I understand,
I'm afraid of heights,
00:22:00.45\00:22:01.72
it's a little scary
just to walk around all day.
00:22:01.72\00:22:02.92
(Tim laughing)
00:22:02.92\00:22:04.29
- As tall as you are,
you're afraid of heights?
00:22:04.29\00:22:05.29
(Jim and Janice laughing)
00:22:05.29\00:22:06.12
- Yeah, a little bit,
00:22:06.12\00:22:07.52
but I was part of the
team that tested the ziplines
00:22:07.52\00:22:09.32
at the Creation Museum, and...
00:22:09.32\00:22:10.76
- [Janice] Ooh. (indistinct)
00:22:10.76\00:22:11.63
- I was afraid to fall.
00:22:11.63\00:22:12.79
I didn't wanna have
to be the first one,
00:22:12.79\00:22:14.03
but I ended up
being the first one
00:22:14.03\00:22:15.03
to go on one of the lines,
00:22:15.03\00:22:16.13
and all of my
coworkers watching,
00:22:16.13\00:22:17.73
I thought, "I
can't chicken out."
00:22:17.73\00:22:19.03
I got that. (Tim
and Janice laughing)
00:22:19.03\00:22:20.04
Didn't help me, it was fun.
00:22:20.04\00:22:21.77
- We're starting to
run out of time here,
00:22:21.77\00:22:23.41
but something I wanna ask you,
00:22:23.41\00:22:25.14
I understand there was one
"scientist", quote, unquote,
00:22:26.27\00:22:28.48
who came here
and looked and said,
00:22:28.48\00:22:30.15
"Well, this thing can't float.
00:22:30.15\00:22:32.18
So it really is totally
in material", and on, and on.
00:22:32.18\00:22:34.78
- Yeah.
00:22:34.78\00:22:35.92
- What do you say
to folks like that?
00:22:35.92\00:22:37.59
- Yeah, well,
this one cannot float.
00:22:37.59\00:22:39.12
I mean, it's hooked, it's
connected on the backside.
00:22:39.12\00:22:41.02
You don't see from here,
00:22:41.02\00:22:42.12
to three giant
towers that anchor it
00:22:42.12\00:22:43.73
so that it can withstand
140 mile an hour winds.
00:22:43.73\00:22:46.73
This one was not
designed to float,
00:22:46.73\00:22:47.96
but the
engineering behind this shape,
00:22:47.96\00:22:50.87
this structure,
was done by Tim Lovett,
00:22:50.87\00:22:53.27
who's an engineer in Australia,
00:22:53.27\00:22:55.00
and he designed it in a
way that it could float,
00:22:55.00\00:22:57.04
if it was constructed, you know,
00:22:57.04\00:22:58.54
the way that we
show on the inside.
00:22:58.54\00:23:00.14
When you first walk in,
00:23:00.14\00:23:01.21
we've got a cross
section of the hall.
00:23:01.21\00:23:03.18
And if it's designed that
way, that structure will float.
00:23:03.18\00:23:06.45
You know, people say,
00:23:06.45\00:23:07.58
"You can't build a
wooden ship that large."
00:23:07.58\00:23:09.05
Well, the Wyoming that
was built in the early 1900's,
00:23:09.05\00:23:11.85
was 430 feet
long from tip to tip,
00:23:11.85\00:23:14.42
and people will often
cite that one and would say,
00:23:14.42\00:23:15.92
"You can't build a
wooden ship that large
00:23:15.92\00:23:17.19
because it sank and
14 people were killed."
00:23:17.19\00:23:19.93
But what they don't tell you is,
00:23:19.93\00:23:21.03
that thing floated
for nearly 15 years,
00:23:21.03\00:23:23.00
carrying
thousands of tons of cargo
00:23:23.00\00:23:24.53
back and forth
across the Atlantic.
00:23:24.53\00:23:26.77
Why don't they tell you that?
00:23:26.77\00:23:27.97
Because you can build
wooden ships that large.
00:23:27.97\00:23:29.70
Noah's Ark needed to float
for a maximum of five months
00:23:29.70\00:23:32.21
before it landed on
the mountains of Ararat.
00:23:32.21\00:23:34.28
So if something close to that
size can float for 15 years,
00:23:34.28\00:23:37.71
if you spent a little
more time and your engineering,
00:23:37.71\00:23:40.32
there...
00:23:40.32\00:23:41.45
Wouldn't ships...
- And besides that,
00:23:41.45\00:23:42.45
it's not taking into account
00:23:42.45\00:23:43.55
that God was
taking care of them.
00:23:43.55\00:23:45.59
He wasn't going to let it sink.
00:23:45.59\00:23:47.29
- Yeah, he's not gonna let sink.
00:23:47.29\00:23:48.26
Our assumption going into this
00:23:48.26\00:23:49.62
and the way that
we worked on these is,
00:23:49.62\00:23:51.23
if the Bible didn't tells us
00:23:51.23\00:23:52.53
that God did
something miraculously,
00:23:52.53\00:23:54.66
let's assume that he didn't
do something miraculously.
00:23:54.66\00:23:57.03
So can Noah design something
in a way that's gonna survive?
00:23:57.03\00:24:00.17
Because there's a little
hint that God wasn't right there
00:24:00.17\00:24:02.04
with him all the time,
because Genesis 8:1 says,
00:24:02.04\00:24:03.94
"God remembered Noah."
00:24:03.94\00:24:05.34
And that's during
the middle of the flood.
00:24:05.34\00:24:06.78
So it's almost as if God
wasn't in there with him,
00:24:06.78\00:24:09.61
you know, taking
care of all their needs,
00:24:09.61\00:24:10.75
that they had to
actually do the planning
00:24:10.75\00:24:12.05
and the research
and prepare for it.
00:24:12.05\00:24:14.55
Of course, we know
God can do those things.
00:24:14.55\00:24:16.12
And if he wanted to, he
would, but our approach to it,
00:24:16.12\00:24:19.05
because we wanna show a
kind of a feasibility study,
00:24:19.05\00:24:21.66
is that God wasn't doing
that every step of the way.
00:24:21.66\00:24:23.73
- And really, God wants to
be in a partnership with us.
00:24:23.73\00:24:26.39
- Yes.
00:24:26.39\00:24:27.73
- He wants us to work
alongside of him, you know,
00:24:27.73\00:24:29.30
in everything,
in the gospel too.
00:24:29.30\00:24:30.80
- Amen, yeah.
00:24:30.80\00:24:32.00
(indistinct) - I'm
sure you found that.
00:24:32.00\00:24:33.27
- Well, that's
what we're called to do.
00:24:33.27\00:24:34.54
And ultimately
that's why we built this.
00:24:34.54\00:24:35.77
Because we have the
most important message
00:24:35.77\00:24:37.07
that can ever be shared.
00:24:37.07\00:24:38.51
Not just Noah and the
Ark, but, God judged the world,
00:24:38.51\00:24:41.08
but the Ark and the flood is
the reminder of God's judgment
00:24:41.08\00:24:43.78
and yet also his mercy and
his grace to Noah and his family
00:24:43.78\00:24:46.82
and the
representatives of the animals.
00:24:46.82\00:24:48.28
- But it's also demonstrating
00:24:48.28\00:24:50.09
that you can
believe what the Bible says.
00:24:50.09\00:24:52.15
- Yeah.
00:24:52.15\00:24:53.09
- That it's not just stories.
00:24:53.09\00:24:54.19
- Right, and it's a reminder
00:24:54.19\00:24:55.42
that someday he is
gonna judge the world again.
00:24:55.42\00:24:57.06
And this time by fire.
00:24:57.06\00:24:58.39
And he's providing a
means of eternal salvation
00:24:58.39\00:25:00.10
from our sins through
the Lord Jesus Christ.
00:25:00.10\00:25:01.56
- Amen.
00:25:01.56\00:25:02.50
In the last couple of minutes,
00:25:02.50\00:25:03.93
is there a story
that comes to your mind
00:25:03.93\00:25:05.47
of someone who came here
00:25:05.47\00:25:06.63
and all of a sudden
gave their life to God?
00:25:06.63\00:25:09.44
Tell me. - Yeah, there was one.
00:25:09.44\00:25:11.24
I think it was about
a year after we opened,
00:25:11.24\00:25:12.54
I was walking out
on the left side there,
00:25:12.54\00:25:13.88
we have a gift
shop at the bottom,
00:25:13.88\00:25:15.44
and I was walking out of
there and somebody saw my badge,
00:25:15.44\00:25:18.18
and he said,
"Sir, do you work here?"
00:25:18.18\00:25:19.48
I said, yes.
00:25:19.48\00:25:20.65
And he said, "I
just need to tell you."
00:25:20.65\00:25:22.15
And they were walking over
to the restaurant over there
00:25:22.15\00:25:24.22
for dinner or for lunch.
00:25:24.22\00:25:26.35
And he said, "See that young
man walking with my family?
00:25:26.35\00:25:28.59
That's my son-in-law.
00:25:28.59\00:25:29.82
We were just up on
the third deck of the Ark
00:25:29.82\00:25:31.49
and he just gave
his life to the Lord
00:25:31.49\00:25:33.33
after watching this
presentation of the gospel."
00:25:33.33\00:25:34.73
- [Jim] Amen.
00:25:34.73\00:25:35.86
- And...
00:25:35.86\00:25:36.87
- That makes it all worth it.
00:25:36.87\00:25:38.00
- Absolutely,
all the long hours,
00:25:38.00\00:25:39.60
everything we did
for it right there,
00:25:39.60\00:25:41.97
that makes it worthwhile.
00:25:41.97\00:25:43.17
And we've had other
similar testimonies.
00:25:43.17\00:25:44.41
So praise God for
that, and, you know,
00:25:44.41\00:25:46.41
his word did not
return to him void.
00:25:46.41\00:25:48.11
And we have his
word throughout the Ark.
00:25:48.11\00:25:51.31
- [Jim] Amen, amen.
00:25:51.31\00:25:52.31
- I'm so thankful for that.
00:25:52.31\00:25:53.52
And what a
privilege to be a part of it.
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- You know,
folks, the Bible's true.
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God's word is true.
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The Ark was real
and it's real here now
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and God is calling you
into his ark of safety,
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into an
incredible life with him.
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And as Tim had
said, he's coming soon.
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He's going to
cleanse this Earth again,
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not by water this
time, but by fire.
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And will you come
into his ark of safety?
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That's the question.
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And Tim, I wanna
thank you today so much
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for coming and sharing with us.
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- Absolutely.
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- I hope people
will come here and visit
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because it's a
moving experience.
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- It's been great
to be a part of it.
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Thank you.
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(uplifting ancient music)
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(gentle music)
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- It's no secret that
the world is in a major mess.
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We are in a major mess.
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Even if you have escaped
many of life's difficulties,
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most homes still
struggle with daily living.
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So the question arises,
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is there hope for the
future, for your future?
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I wanna tell you,
there absolutely is hope.
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(gentle upbeat music)
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- Thank you for watching.
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Join us again for another
exciting "Country Wisdom".
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- See you next time.
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