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- Welcome everyone.
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We're excited to share
some Country Wisdom with you.
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- King Solomon had
a thing or two to say
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about the path to wisdom.
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In Proverbs 4 he wrote, let
your eyes look directly forward
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and your gaze be
straight before you,
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keep straight
the path of your feet
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and all your ways will be sure.
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- Join us now
for Country Wisdom.
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(indistinct chatter)
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(long beeping)
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You know, Jay, right
now, while I'm talking,
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I hope the camera's
focused on that T-shirt
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because that
T-shirt really says it all,
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saved by Jesus
and an organ donor.
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You're here today by a miracle,
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and I don't think.
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- More than one.
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- More than one,
yeah, more than one,
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so we'd like to
hear that story today.
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We'll just let
you kind of take it.
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- Well, I
appreciate the opportunity
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to tell you my life
and how it transpired,
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particularly over
the last five months,
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in a dramatic way, but
in a real positive way.
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The Lord is good.
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I shouldn't be here.
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I should have
died more than once.
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And I'm very grateful that
God saw through a bigger purpose
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because what transpired,
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starting back in
March of this year,
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culminated to a new heart,
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physical new heart,
and I'm very grateful,
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very grateful to be here
today, talking to you guys.
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- We're grateful for that too.
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And Janice, maybe tell
him why we're so far apart.
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- Right, we
purposely are outdoors
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and far more separate from you.
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Usually whoever we're
talking to is right nearby,
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but we don't want to do
anything to compromise you
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because you're still in
some ways in precarious health
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in that your immune system,
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you have to be given
time to recover from this
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and to make sure nothing's
going to reject that heart.
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- Yeah, and I appreciate that,
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that's just part of the process.
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You have some rules you have
to go by, but in the long run,
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once you get through this
first year, you're home free,
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and I wanna say that my new
heart, I've had no rejection,
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I've had eight
biopsies, I do another one,
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and Lord is blessing me,
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and he handpicked this heart.
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And I wanna tell you that
story of how it all transpired.
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- Yeah, briefly, what
led up to your doctor saying,
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here's your only choice.
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- Yeah.
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Well, you know,
I was given a gene
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that is very
much a dangerous gene,
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which I didn't know about it.
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Obviously, I have
some family history.
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My grandfather,
his brothers, my uncle,
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my mom, she died of
congestive heart failure,
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and then it all
culminated back when I was 45,
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so that's been 11 years ago
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that this gene started to
kind of react and not knowing,
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what it could culminate to.
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I got my first pacemaker in 2011
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that transpired to a
defibrillator pacer in 2017.
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I've had multiple
ablation surgeries,
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try to fix this
crazy genetic rhythm issue.
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And then in March of this year,
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it started really culminating
to react in a negative way.
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Won't feeling the greatest,
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decided to go into the ER,
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and what, I was glad I did
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'cause I was in a
sustained Ventricular Tach,
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which is a very
dangerous rhythm,
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and they got me stable.
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I remember that early morning,
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my cardiologists coming in
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and I guess I was taking
a real turn for the worst,
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but my life was saved then,
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but I didn't think
it was gonna be saved
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because of the
way I was feeling,
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and I could see
in the doctor's eyes,
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it was not a good situation.
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In that moment, I basically
said my peace with the Lord.
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I said, Lord, I love you,
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I wanna be with you in heaven,
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and I asked him for
forgiveness of sins.
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I said, but if you want me
to still be here on this earth,
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then you're
gonna have a purpose.
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- Jay, if I can, I'm gonna
leave you right at that moment.
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Let's go back to
previous history.
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Were you're a Christian?
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Did you love God?
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What was your
spiritual life like?
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Kind of unpack some of
that for us, if you would.
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- Yeah, I've grown up a
Christian my whole life,
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I went to Christian education,
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I've had a good
family upbringing,
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we had worships in our family,
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but to be honest, I
wasn't on fire for the Lord.
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I was considered
what you would call
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the Laodicea church,
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but the Laodicea
person, lukewarm,
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and you know,
that's not the way to be,
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you're not, you really
can't go through life doing that
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as a Christian upfront,
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but in inside, are you
really in communication,
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and do you have Christ in
your life on a daily basis?
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Well, I think it
took this experience
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that I'm talking
to you about today
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to realize for me personally
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that there is
definitely a trust factor
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that you gotta have and
you gotta trust in your Lord
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to give you a new
heart spiritually, every day.
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I've been gifted with
a new heart physically,
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but that spiritual
aspect, it needs to be daily,
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and here's the
deal, I didn't realize it
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until this whole experience
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that Christ gave
his heart for us, right?
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And ultimately, it was death.
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So, reality is, that gift
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of having a spiritual new heart
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is available for us every day.
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Now, not everybody
gets a physical new heart
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that is in need of one.
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I'm lucky.
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I'm lucky.
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- You weren't on the
list very long, were you?
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- No, not at all.
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I got through that
one situation in March,
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and it was doing okay.
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It ended up having a
major, another major ablation
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that they're trying to fix it
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'cause ultimately,
this, the last resort is
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a brand new physical heart,
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I mean, that, you
don't wanna go there,
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but if you, they're trying
to do everything possible.
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Well, they thought it was
successful with that procedure.
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It ended up not working
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because on April 12th,
I had a very traumatic,
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probably the most
traumatic experience of my life,
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just here at the
end of the driveway,
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I was actually going to
rehab for my previous surgery
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and my
defibrillator decided to go off.
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I'd never been shocked before.
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It always paced
down this crazy rhythm,
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that's what it's designed to do.
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And all, the pacer is
an internal shocking system
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to shock it back in rhythm.
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You're supposed
to go back in rhythm
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within a one or two shocks.
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- Is that something
you really physically feel?
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- Oh, absolutely.
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- [Jim] Absolutely.
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- It knocks people down.
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Yeah, I'm pretty much in good
shape otherwise, health-wise.
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I was in the car sitting down.
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The Lord blessed me
without being on the highway
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'cause it could have
been very traumatic experience
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and I could have crashed,
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but anyway, I was at
the end of the driveway,
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I got shocked
for the first time,
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I knew what it was,
you kind of black out,
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came back in,
kept getting shocked,
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woke my wife up
from a dead sleep.
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It's very painful as we
got to get to the emergency
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because I knew what
was gonna calm it down
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from the previous experience
and it's magic Lidocaine,
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they call it rocket
fuel for irregular rhythms,
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so we, my wife was,
had the spirit with her.
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She drove like cool
as a cucumber, and we.
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- I'm still, I got to interrupt,
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I'm still hung
up on these shocks,
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and, you know, you kind
of just pass over it like,
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yes, it's a hard deal.
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- We have all seen
medical shows with the paddles,
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and it, you come off the table
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and that's happening
to you from the inside?
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- Yes, that's what an internal
defibrillator device does,
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and it's the last resort
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because if you don't
get that out of rhythm,
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then you could die
instantly, and you know.
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- And you're walking
around and that's going on?
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It never.
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- Well, yeah.
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In the car, all
total, it went off 26 times.
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Now that is unheard of.
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The people at the emergency
said, we haven't seen this,
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you're lucky to
be here from that.
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It's just one of those
things that that's a lot.
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- I'll tell you right now,
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our doctor
volunteer's on the other camera,
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he shaking his head, you
know, thinking about that.
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- Well, it was
supposed to go off 21 more times
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according to the records
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'cause they have all this in
your device, it's a computer,
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and it didn't have the
capacitor strength to do it.
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So I shouldn't
have made it then.
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I mean, medically,
that's number two in a period,
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yeah, second time
that you've been gifted.
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Well, the next phase was okay,
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he's not well off,
so I got transferred to
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Ascension Saint Thomas
Hospital up in Nashville,
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and they saw immediately
that there wasn't many options,
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but they wanna
give you the options.
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And ultimately the option was,
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you're a good candidate
for a heart transplant.
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And there was eight
specialists that came in
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on that Wednesday morning,
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and that was on April the
14th, I won't forget that day,
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and they're basically
throwing a lot of stuff at you.
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I didn't know how
serious it really was
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'cause I can talk just
like I'm talking to you
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and feel okay if I'm
not in some crazy rhythm,
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but if you're in
some crazy rhythm,
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it's very serious,
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and so they saw
that, and I'm going,
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so, if you're in my
shoes, what would you do?
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And they said, you
need a heart transplant.
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So that culminated to,
okay, we're gonna move forward,
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I have no other option.
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And they worked very closely.
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They said, you're
gonna go into two.
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Now there's a scale of,
like, one to six on a rating,
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and two's very high.
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I mean, you gotta
get one pretty quickly,
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I, knowing that now.
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And so they went through
some tests and I qualified,
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they said, oh,
you're a perfect candidate
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'cause I
basically lived a good life.
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I don't smoke, I don't drink,
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I get good health standards,
I just had a bum heart,
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and they saw all that.
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They said, and I'm fairly young,
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I'm 56 and so there's.
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- In going this time, walk
us through a little bit of your,
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what's going on
with you and the Lord.
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- Well, I already saw
that there was gifted of life
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and that he granted me purpose,
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so I'd been, I had a miracle
happen on that first situation
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from the surgery
they had in March,
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and that was a
direct hand from God,
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basically coming in and
giving healing immediately
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to what is called
heart edema, cardiac edema.
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I've experienced it
before with another surgery,
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so it's drowning, and
he healed me from that,
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and I felt the hand of God.
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- The older I
get, the more I realize
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that the years of
this life are finite.
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You see, we are born with an
incurable disease called death.
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It will happen to all of
us unless the Lord comes soon,
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but this was not God's plan,
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this was the work of the devil.
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But our God has a plan
that ends in eternal life
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for those who buy into his plan.
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- So I already had
some confidence, but look.
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- I can't let you.
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- I know, I was
just about to stop him
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'cause earlier when you
were giving us a brief run down,
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there's a little
bit more to that story
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about you
feeling the hand of God.
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- Yes.
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Yeah, so you've
already felt the hand of God,
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you've been,
you've gone through a lot.
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- He's still not gonna tell you.
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- But we're still human, right?
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I'm still human.
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I've got nerves
that this is gonna be,
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this is not a good experience,
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it's gonna happen,
there's a lot involved,
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there's rules you gotta follow.
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- Oh, my blood
pressure is rising
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just having to talk
about his heart going out.
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- And Jay, you
can't get past us on this.
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We want to hear what went on.
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- The hand of God when you felt,
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you said you recognized it
00:13:27.60\00:13:28.80
from previous
complication of surgery.
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- Because I know the
same God of the Bible
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is the same God today.
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He does mighty things,
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so you've got to unpack
that story a little more for us.
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- [Jay] Okay.
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- You said you
were trying to decide
00:13:38.58\00:13:39.65
whether to push
that nurse's button.
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- Yes, well, I was in the
hospital coming out of surgery,
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I came out fine.
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I'll never forget it
was a 12 o'clock at midnight
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and I'm wide awake,
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and I felt this
cardiac edema come on.
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Uh-oh, I don't
really wanna deal with this
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'cause I know what that's about.
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The only way you can
get it off is with a BiPAP,
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that gets really bad or
surgically remove the fluid.
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So I'm like, man, I really,
Lord you can take this away.
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So I just really opened up
and just in the hospital bed,
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my wife's just
wore outside asleep,
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so it's just me and God really.
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And I said, look,
you know, I don't,
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you know what's going on here,
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but you can take this away,
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and I'm gonna ask
you to take this away,
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I'm gonna go ahead
and thank you for it.
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It's the positive way,
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which I went through
in this late seventies.
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And then, you know, I
said, thank you for doing this,
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and I want you to
know that I very quickly,
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I felt the hand
of God coming in,
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whatever you wanna
call it, the hand, spirit,
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and it went right to that spot.
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And I'm telling you it was gone.
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It's a miracle, I
mean, that's a small miracle,
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but it gave me a lot of faith.
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And I feel like that
little things like that
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in people's lives can sure
give strength and give clarity
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as you go through life,
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and we need to hear more
of those little miracles.
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- Well, thank you.
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It took us a little
bit to pull it out of him.
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Well, we got it.
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Now let's go back to
you're number two on a list,
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maybe of six.
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Go ahead.
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- Yeah, so to stay at a two,
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because I'm on
electrical situation then,
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there's a group
that's called UNOS,
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it's a National
Network for Organ Sharing.
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And they control who
is eligible for organs
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to make sure that
it's the right person,
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everything that's good.
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You call like the federal
government of organ donor,
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but they're
there to protect, okay.
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The rule with electrical changed
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and they needed
some additional activity
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because I had been
put on this rocket fuel,
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I didn't have any
activities sitting in bed
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for some period of time.
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- So, now you seem
fine for the moment.
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- For the moment,
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but yet you're still
being controlled by this med,
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so you don't react
because my heart was tired,
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it was irritated, it was done.
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And they knew it, but we
had to prove it to this group.
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- To stable now, basically.
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- To stable, if
you wanna call it that.
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So they sent the head of the
department in and he comes in
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and he's there to
kind of get some activity
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by getting you
angry, getting you riled up.
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I didn't know
what he was there for,
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but he's there to say, well,
we got a dilemma, Mr. Jones.
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You can't be on this drip
for the rest of your life.
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And we got this situation and
we all knew you need a heart,
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but if we take in and push
the issue and get your heart,
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then they're gonna
shut our program down
00:16:43.93\00:16:45.50
because it's against their rule.
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And so I said,
well, I don't want that.
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And I said, but we
might have to put an LVAD in,
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which is an
artificial heart as a bridge.
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And we might have
to do all this stuff,
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and I'm going, where in
the world is this coming from?
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And I'm like,
well you know what, doc
00:17:01.35\00:17:03.18
I said, my Lord's got
the heart already picked out.
00:17:03.18\00:17:06.79
And I said, if I
have to go down to a six
00:17:06.79\00:17:08.79
and I gotta wait
a year or whatever,
00:17:08.79\00:17:10.96
then so be it
because I trust in him.
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And I said, I'm sorry, but
you need to take me off this,
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and let me walk through,
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take me off this "Rocket Fuel",
00:17:18.83\00:17:20.44
and let me walk down the hall
00:17:20.44\00:17:21.54
and I'll give
you Ventricular Tach
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because that's
what this is all about.
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- So your line, is
this pretty stable yet?
00:17:24.97\00:17:27.21
He didn't get a rise out of you.
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- No he didn't, but
he did out of my wife,
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my wife got really upset.
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So you're gonna
send him home to die?
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That upset me.
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I went from 80 to
280, just like that,
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and it was that serious.
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I hear like a bunch of
elephants coming down the hall
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with nurses and
it's going off, you know,
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they're seeing it and
hold it all back, hold back,
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he's fine, he's fine,
00:17:53.23\00:17:54.34
and well, that's
what they needed,
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that's what they
needed to pass the test.
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But I really think I
passed the test for my Lord,
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'cause I gave him, gave
him the glory and trust.
00:18:02.01\00:18:06.48
But at the same time,
00:18:06.48\00:18:07.82
I passed the test for
the doc and the hospital.
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He came back in 10
minutes later, he goes,
00:18:11.39\00:18:13.59
you're officially a two and
you could get a heart tonight.
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So, that was a big moment.
00:18:18.69\00:18:21.56
So we transpired,
00:18:23.47\00:18:25.33
I actually had some more
episodes in the hospital.
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I did get shocked again.
00:18:27.64\00:18:28.94
They just finally just
turned off the defibrillator
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and said, well,
it ain't do any good.
00:18:31.34\00:18:33.21
And why put him
through that torture anymore?
00:18:33.21\00:18:35.21
It still worked because I
needed a pacer to run the heart,
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but 'cause of a
block situations,
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it's a messed up gene,
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it's a cursed gene.
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But I'll never
forget on May the 4th,
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my surgeon come in
at seven in the morning.
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I said, you got a heart?
00:18:52.59\00:18:54.30
Yes, yes, sir.
00:18:55.30\00:18:56.10
We got one, it's a good one.
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- [Jim] Did your
wife get to hear that?
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- No she wasn't there at
that early in the morning.
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They keep you up
all night, you know?
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So you're wide awake
at seven in the morning
00:19:04.11\00:19:05.84
when you're in the hospital.
00:19:05.84\00:19:07.78
And he says, hey, we
could go into surgery by noon.
00:19:07.78\00:19:11.61
So we're gonna be
doing some things.
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Well it ended up getting
delayed, they had weather
00:19:13.48\00:19:16.52
issues. You got four hours and
five minutes to get that organ
00:19:16.52\00:19:19.12
from the recipient
to you, and that's it.
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There's no good.
00:19:23.76\00:19:24.79
So there's time sensitivity.
00:19:24.79\00:19:26.80
And to be able to match
up a heart to the person,
00:19:28.13\00:19:31.50
there's a lot involved,
there's the blood type,
00:19:31.50\00:19:34.67
there's the size,
there's all this stuff,
00:19:34.67\00:19:36.57
that's why they take lots
of blood and do all these tests
00:19:36.57\00:19:39.14
because you gotta have
that miracle to happen as well.
00:19:39.14\00:19:44.21
So, it ended up being
the morning of the 5th,
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at two in the
morning, we had the surgery,
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and I'll never forget, I said,
00:19:52.49\00:19:53.89
my one request is I wanna
have prayer with the team,
00:19:53.89\00:19:56.56
and you, and we did that.
00:19:56.56\00:19:58.09
And I'll never forget my
last words before the surgery.
00:19:59.43\00:20:01.20
I said, Godspeed with you,
00:20:01.20\00:20:02.30
I'm wide awake, so I
got your heart right here.
00:20:02.30\00:20:05.77
It's kind of interesting.
00:20:05.77\00:20:07.20
It's there on ice.
00:20:08.10\00:20:09.60
So anyway, it was about
five and a half hour surgery.
00:20:09.60\00:20:13.48
I had about a two hour recovery.
00:20:13.48\00:20:15.38
So I'm up at 11 in the morning
00:20:15.38\00:20:17.18
and they're
walking me to the chair.
00:20:17.18\00:20:19.31
They said it was a
record, I don't know.
00:20:19.31\00:20:21.12
They said he's gonna sleep
all day, they called my wife,
00:20:21.12\00:20:23.28
she had left. He said, he's up.
00:20:23.28\00:20:25.19
God already had plans
to move forward, I guess.
00:20:27.36\00:20:29.76
So anyway, had some
complications after I got
00:20:31.36\00:20:34.56
through those with my kidneys
and I was released on the 20th
00:20:34.56\00:20:38.77
of May, that was after 39
days of being in the hospital.
00:20:40.30\00:20:43.27
I was about 21
days of being assessed
00:20:44.67\00:20:49.64
that you needed a heart.
00:20:51.68\00:20:53.55
And only 13 days from the time
I was officially on the list
00:20:53.55\00:20:57.09
to get a heart,
that's record speed,
00:20:57.09\00:20:59.62
because on the
day I was released,
00:20:59.62\00:21:02.19
the assistant to
the surgeon, I said,
00:21:02.19\00:21:03.73
man, I can't
thank you guys enough,
00:21:03.73\00:21:05.39
it's great staff, I mean, you
have really taken care of me.
00:21:05.39\00:21:09.70
And I said, you said,
we need to get a heart
00:21:09.70\00:21:11.40
within four weeks.
00:21:11.40\00:21:13.00
He goes, no sir.
00:21:13.00\00:21:15.10
He said, you had less than that.
00:21:15.10\00:21:16.77
You had about a week
to week and a half left.
00:21:17.87\00:21:19.94
So Lord knew
what the timing was.
00:21:21.04\00:21:22.94
- Wow.
00:21:22.94\00:21:23.78
- He got a good one.
00:21:23.78\00:21:24.85
Surgeon said,
it's a great heart.
00:21:24.85\00:21:26.65
The only thing I know
is that that's younger.
00:21:27.75\00:21:30.19
It's 20 times
better than the one I had,
00:21:30.19\00:21:32.32
and they played
soccer, so got some athletic,
00:21:32.32\00:21:35.99
going for you there.
00:21:37.16\00:21:38.59
So, I'm thankful
to be alive today
00:21:38.59\00:21:43.30
because I wouldn't have,
00:21:43.30\00:21:44.80
if I had not been gifted
from a donor, from a recipient,
00:21:44.80\00:21:49.37
the gift of a new heart
and for God to intervene
00:21:50.84\00:21:55.34
and work through the timing,
00:21:55.34\00:21:56.58
I was at the right
place at the right time
00:21:56.58\00:21:58.48
with the right folks
and everything lined up.
00:21:58.48\00:22:01.88
I don't think that can
happen unless it's intervention
00:22:01.88\00:22:05.29
with what I've heard
from previous recipients,
00:22:05.29\00:22:09.22
I'm thankful to my family
and everyone that prayed for me.
00:22:10.59\00:22:13.40
I had about 4,000 people lifting
up prayers, this got out,
00:22:13.40\00:22:16.53
that gave me strength too,
00:22:18.80\00:22:20.64
I have a promise that
I used a lot in my life,
00:22:22.20\00:22:25.24
it's Isaiah 26:3,
00:22:25.24\00:22:27.44
Thou wilt keep
him in perfect peace,
00:22:27.44\00:22:29.08
whose mind is stayed on thee.
00:22:29.08\00:22:30.81
And that was a
real strength for me
00:22:30.81\00:22:32.68
getting through this episode.
00:22:32.68\00:22:34.52
And it has been a strength
for me throughout my life,
00:22:34.52\00:22:36.52
but it
particularly given me peace,
00:22:36.52\00:22:38.69
having a good attitude with
what you're being dealt with.
00:22:38.69\00:22:41.62
My new heart is strong
physically, but at the same
00:22:44.93\00:22:49.26
time, there is the
spiritual side of this.
00:22:50.93\00:22:53.40
You know, I mentioned I
was a lukewarm Christian,
00:22:53.40\00:22:56.27
I'm not anymore.
00:22:56.27\00:22:57.11
God has shown me
what he can do for you
00:22:59.77\00:23:02.98
and what he did
for me physically.
00:23:02.98\00:23:04.98
But on a spiritual note,
he already died for my sins.
00:23:04.98\00:23:09.58
He gave the gift of
life 2000 years ago.
00:23:09.58\00:23:13.56
It's a gift for
us, each and every day.
00:23:13.56\00:23:15.89
Now, we can take
that gift for granted,
00:23:16.96\00:23:20.53
just like we do
every day of our lives,
00:23:20.53\00:23:23.03
but I don't take
this heart for granted,
00:23:24.40\00:23:26.27
that's physically given to me.
00:23:26.27\00:23:27.60
I now don't take the gift of
spiritual gift that God gave us
00:23:27.60\00:23:31.81
by dying on the cross.
00:23:31.81\00:23:33.17
He gave me life physically,
00:23:35.08\00:23:37.05
but he gives me
life spiritually.
00:23:37.05\00:23:39.65
I think it's important, and
what I'm doing now is a more,
00:23:39.65\00:23:43.82
a daily relationship with
him that is through prayer,
00:23:43.82\00:23:48.36
through study and just, we
call it quiet time with him.
00:23:51.66\00:23:55.86
To me, that's the
most important thing.
00:23:57.03\00:23:59.70
And I already know he's got
a divine appointment for me,
00:23:59.70\00:24:02.67
and I asked for that every day,
00:24:02.67\00:24:04.74
what is it you
got in store for me?
00:24:04.74\00:24:06.41
Because I shouldn't be here,
00:24:06.41\00:24:09.24
you've allowed me to be here.
00:24:09.24\00:24:10.78
Let's make the best of it,
00:24:11.68\00:24:13.01
but let you take control
of my life on a daily basis
00:24:13.01\00:24:17.55
that I don't
have to worry about.
00:24:17.55\00:24:19.82
- Amen, Jay, we've got
just a couple of minutes left.
00:24:19.82\00:24:23.32
Well, actually,
probably less than that,
00:24:23.32\00:24:24.79
but what would you
share with the folks
00:24:24.79\00:24:29.10
that are watching right now?
00:24:29.10\00:24:30.97
I mean, you've
experienced a lot of things.
00:24:30.97\00:24:33.37
What would you share with them?
00:24:33.37\00:24:34.40
What's important?
00:24:34.40\00:24:35.50
The most
important thing you know.
00:24:35.50\00:24:37.34
- There's one thing that struck
me and I'll make it short,
00:24:37.34\00:24:39.81
so you have the
rest of the time.
00:24:39.81\00:24:41.61
You said you had
inherited a cursed gene.
00:24:41.61\00:24:45.38
And I thought we all have,
00:24:45.38\00:24:47.42
every one of us has inherited
a broken, twisted, bad heart,
00:24:47.42\00:24:52.49
except most of
us don't realize it,
00:24:54.32\00:24:56.52
it was brought up front
and center in your life.
00:24:56.52\00:24:59.63
Most of us cruise through,
are tempted sometimes to think,
00:24:59.63\00:25:03.40
hey, we're doing
okay, I'm a good person.
00:25:03.40\00:25:05.53
God needs to bring
in front of all of us,
00:25:07.04\00:25:09.70
every day the fact
that we need a new heart,
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you were lucky in a way that
you got to see it so clearly.
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- Absolutely, I mean, it's yeah,
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I guess it took going through,
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I went through for me to
open up and to realize that
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there's a big picture to this.
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And if there's any one thing
I can say to individuals is,
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don't take life for granted,
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have a relationship
with Christ on a daily basis.
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And I'm telling you,
your life will be fulfilled
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because I feel like
my life's been fulfilled.
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And I'll tell
you there's two texts
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that is very interesting,
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that relates to
what I went through.
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The first one is Psalms 73:26.
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My health may fail, and
my spirit may grow weak,
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but God remains the
strength of my heart;
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he is mine forever.
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And then there's
another one, Ezekiel 36:26.
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And I will give you a new heart,
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I will put a new spirit in you.
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I will take your
stony, stubborn heart
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and give you a
tender, responsive heart.
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- Amen, Amen.
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- So he took the old physical,
stubborn, tired heart away.
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He gave me a new, younger heart.
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It's still used, but
in our heart spiritually
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can be stubborn at times too.
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- Yeah, and that Jay
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and we've kinda
got to wrap it up,
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and I wanna tell the audience,
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one of my favorite writers says,
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take my heart Lord
for I cannot give it.
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That should be the
prayer of every one of us.
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Lord, you take my
heart, you change me,
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you make me into the new
person, really just like Jay.
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Jay, thank you so much
for being with us today.
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- Well, thank you.
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- The older I
get, the more I realize
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that the years of
this life are finite.
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You see, we are born with an
incurable disease called death.
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It will happen to all of
us unless the Lord comes soon,
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but this was not God's plan,
this was the work of the devil,
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but our God has a plan
that ends in eternal life
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for those who buy into his plan.
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