(calm music) 00:00:00.53\00:00:02.50 - Hey, welcome everybody to Talking Donkey International 00:00:13.31\00:00:16.08 and our new television series, Country Wisdom. 00:00:16.08\00:00:18.55 - Lets' set the tone for this new series of ours. 00:00:18.55\00:00:22.12 It's found in Proverbs four. 00:00:22.12\00:00:24.92 Let your eyes look directly forward 00:00:24.92\00:00:27.69 and your gaze be straight before you. 00:00:27.69\00:00:30.79 Ponder the path of your feet 00:00:30.79\00:00:33.33 and then all your ways will be sure. 00:00:33.33\00:00:35.56 - Join us now for Country Wisdom. 00:00:36.77\00:00:38.27 - I love people's stories. 00:00:43.10\00:00:44.87 I think it was why I was an English major, 00:00:44.87\00:00:46.71 so I could read stories and Taylor's is 00:00:46.71\00:00:50.75 one of the most interesting ones that I've heard. 00:00:50.75\00:00:53.15 I love the way that God was with him every step, 00:00:53.15\00:00:57.89 even though he didn't see God, 00:00:57.89\00:00:59.69 he didn't even think he wanted God for a while. 00:00:59.69\00:01:02.62 This second part of his interview, you're not going 00:01:02.62\00:01:05.93 to want to miss. 00:01:05.93\00:01:07.00 - It is amazing, when you look step by step 00:01:08.10\00:01:10.43 at the things he did. 00:01:10.43\00:01:11.80 It's like he's running so far from God, 00:01:11.80\00:01:14.54 but God continually pursues him, 00:01:14.54\00:01:16.30 continually works, speaks to him 00:01:16.30\00:01:18.61 in ways that we would never think of. 00:01:18.61\00:01:21.18 - And it's right there, the moment Taylor turns. 00:01:21.18\00:01:23.65 - Yeah, exactly, so folks, join us right now 00:01:23.65\00:01:26.61 for the second half, the second part 00:01:26.61\00:01:28.45 of another exciting testimony of Taylor Cantrell. 00:01:28.45\00:01:31.45 - I went sophomore year, having done that 00:01:39.46\00:01:43.33 and got a couple more friends that I would smoke with 00:01:43.33\00:01:47.00 or that I would have a beer with, 00:01:47.00\00:01:48.77 or they were getting drunk on weekends 00:01:48.77\00:01:51.17 and I would be around and happen to get drunk too. 00:01:51.17\00:01:53.68 Then junior year was when 00:01:53.68\00:01:57.08 it became much more available 00:01:58.75\00:02:01.52 to do anything and I mean literally anything. 00:02:02.85\00:02:06.62 We lived in the central valley of California 00:02:06.62\00:02:09.22 Bay area is an hour away. 00:02:09.22\00:02:12.16 You can take an hour drive and go see 00:02:13.23\00:02:16.56 the worst drug dealer imaginable 00:02:16.56\00:02:19.13 and get anything you imagine. 00:02:19.13\00:02:21.50 But, what we were doing in our junior year, 00:02:21.50\00:02:26.17 was a ton of smoking weed. 00:02:26.17\00:02:29.28 A ton, I mean every day before school, 00:02:29.28\00:02:32.71 skip a class to smoke and then after school 00:02:32.71\00:02:36.35 until we've decided we didn't want to hang out 00:02:36.35\00:02:38.89 with each other any more. 00:02:38.89\00:02:40.96 And looking back at that, it's like I cannot imagine 00:02:40.96\00:02:46.03 quantifying the number of hours I wasted 00:02:47.20\00:02:49.80 on people that I can't even either 00:02:49.80\00:02:51.67 remember their names anymore or wouldn't care to. 00:02:51.67\00:02:55.70 - I used to, after I got away from drugs, 00:02:55.70\00:02:57.41 I used to call grass the do nothing drug, 00:02:57.41\00:03:00.64 because you don't care to do anything in life, 00:03:00.64\00:03:02.71 just chill. 00:03:02.71\00:03:03.75 - Right, absolutely right. 00:03:03.75\00:03:05.51 So, there is usually one moment 00:03:05.51\00:03:10.59 that is going to be the flip of the switch 00:03:11.69\00:03:13.02 for somebody that's either going to send them way further 00:03:13.02\00:03:14.92 into the drugs or be the catalyst to, 00:03:14.92\00:03:17.59 okay, I need to stop. 00:03:17.59\00:03:19.83 And thankfully, I decided to stop when we had a moment 00:03:19.83\00:03:24.00 of we had gone to San Francisco for just a trip 00:03:24.00\00:03:27.57 with five, six friends and it happened to be 00:03:27.57\00:03:32.14 on April 20th. 00:03:32.14\00:03:33.84 If those of you who don't know, 00:03:33.84\00:03:35.81 four-20 is the date and everybody goes 00:03:35.81\00:03:38.81 and smokes as much weed as they possibly can on this day, 00:03:38.81\00:03:42.08 just because. 00:03:42.08\00:03:43.82 And we decided to celebrate said holiday in San Francisco, 00:03:43.82\00:03:48.69 so we drove out to San Francisco, 00:03:48.69\00:03:51.26 smoking while we're driving the whole way out. 00:03:51.26\00:03:54.30 We get there, we smoke some more. 00:03:54.30\00:03:56.93 We go to the place where everybody's going 00:03:56.93\00:03:58.47 to meet up and smoke and it's called Hippy Hill. 00:03:58.47\00:04:02.04 There's thousands of people that meet on this hill 00:04:02.04\00:04:06.04 to all smoke at the same time, four-20. 00:04:06.04\00:04:08.58 We went out for this trip and 00:04:09.54\00:04:12.81 as I've explained it, it's pretty intense. 00:04:15.08\00:04:18.72 But we decided that it wasn't quite enough, 00:04:18.72\00:04:21.02 so we should try to find som psychedelic mushrooms. 00:04:21.02\00:04:23.76 My friend and I, we went and decided it's San Francisco. 00:04:25.16\00:04:28.96 How hard could it be to find psychedelic mushrooms? 00:04:28.96\00:04:32.30 And honestly, not. 00:04:32.30\00:04:34.04 Not very hard at all. 00:04:34.04\00:04:35.04 - You just stop passers by? 00:04:35.04\00:04:39.17 On Haight and Ashbury, yeah. 00:04:39.17\00:04:41.71 - That's where all the big commuters used to be, 00:04:41.71\00:04:44.88 all the big dealers. 00:04:44.88\00:04:45.95 - I've heard of Haight Ashbury. 00:04:45.95\00:04:47.75 - Yeah, so we were literally on Haight Street 00:04:47.75\00:04:49.72 when this happened. 00:04:49.72\00:04:51.09 We were walking past, just walking by bunches of people 00:04:51.09\00:04:53.82 and my friend taps me and he points at this person, 00:04:53.82\00:04:56.29 who's probably homeless, sitting on his cardboard thing 00:04:56.29\00:04:59.96 with a sign. 00:04:59.96\00:05:01.06 He's got neon green dreads, mixed in 00:05:01.06\00:05:05.80 with neon orange dreads and he just looked 00:05:05.80\00:05:09.00 like a road reflector sitting there. 00:05:09.00\00:05:11.97 And it it couldn't have been more obvious to us 00:05:11.97\00:05:14.11 that it's like, that's our guy. 00:05:14.11\00:05:15.91 And we asked him and he was our guy 00:05:15.91\00:05:19.11 and so he said, "Yeah, sure, 00:05:19.11\00:05:20.42 "just come along, come down with me over here." 00:05:20.42\00:05:23.08 And there's a group of five or six of us, 00:05:23.08\00:05:25.02 following this one guy. 00:05:25.02\00:05:26.62 So fine, let's go and where he leads us, 00:05:26.62\00:05:30.16 is down to the end of Haight Street. 00:05:30.16\00:05:32.39 Those who might watch this, may actually know 00:05:32.39\00:05:35.26 what I'm talking about, but at the end of Haight Street, 00:05:35.26\00:05:38.10 there's a McDonald's. 00:05:38.10\00:05:39.20 You cross the street and go into the park. 00:05:39.20\00:05:41.74 Buena Vista Park I think, is what it's called. 00:05:41.74\00:05:44.14 But, when you first walk through that entrance to the park, 00:05:44.14\00:05:48.21 he says, "Oh, okay, now step into my office," 00:05:48.21\00:05:50.85 which was, let's go off into the woods over here 00:05:50.85\00:05:53.42 for like a little bit. 00:05:53.42\00:05:54.95 And so all of us walked over there 00:05:54.95\00:05:56.69 and he said, okay, now wait here. 00:05:56.69\00:06:01.29 And we can still see the gate. 00:06:01.29\00:06:02.66 We can still see people at the McDonald's and every thing. 00:06:02.66\00:06:05.23 - And the other buddies that 00:06:05.23\00:06:06.03 are gonna show up with the guns. 00:06:06.03\00:06:07.30 - Right that's what we were kind of worried about. 00:06:07.30\00:06:09.80 But what turned out, is this guy that we had asked, 00:06:09.80\00:06:13.44 knew who to ask. 00:06:13.44\00:06:15.44 So he just took us to a place that was fine enough 00:06:15.44\00:06:18.34 to wait around for five, ten minutes. 00:06:18.34\00:06:21.34 And we see him walk off to this spot 00:06:21.34\00:06:24.11 where there's a bunch of tents in the woods. 00:06:24.11\00:06:26.85 And there's kind of questionable characters walking around, 00:06:26.85\00:06:31.92 including a guy that's wearing football pads 00:06:33.05\00:06:35.79 with nine inch nails sticking through them, 00:06:36.89\00:06:40.06 all the way out, like it's a suit of armor. 00:06:40.06\00:06:42.70 - Okay. 00:06:44.13\00:06:45.27 - And this guy is very much not here with us 00:06:45.27\00:06:50.04 at the time. 00:06:50.57\00:06:51.67 He's walking around with a big knife, 00:06:51.67\00:06:54.91 chucking it into this stump, pulling it out. 00:06:54.91\00:06:58.25 Chucking it into this stump and pulling it out 00:06:58.25\00:07:00.75 and he's repeatedly screaming, "Why don't people 00:07:00.75\00:07:02.98 "believe in magic anymore?" 00:07:02.98\00:07:06.32 This guy is not here. 00:07:06.32\00:07:09.26 Our guy goes and talks to him 00:07:10.69\00:07:13.83 and they have a conversation. 00:07:13.83\00:07:15.66 (cross talking) 00:07:15.66\00:07:18.40 So, we get what we came to get from him 00:07:19.50\00:07:23.57 and we go to the hill and we go and do our thing. 00:07:23.57\00:07:27.18 When I took the magic mushrooms, 00:07:28.58\00:07:31.28 it was about 20 minutes before anything happened, 00:07:33.05\00:07:35.35 but we're on top of the hill. 00:07:35.35\00:07:37.02 - You saw what they had done for the guy 00:07:37.02\00:07:39.75 with the knife and the nine inch nails 00:07:39.75\00:07:41.89 and you still wanted to try it? 00:07:41.89\00:07:44.39 - Because our rationale is that's what happens 00:07:44.39\00:07:48.60 when you do it too much. 00:07:48.60\00:07:50.37 - Does the phrase young and dumb come to mind? 00:07:52.67\00:07:55.54 - Yeah, so we go and take part in the Hippy Hill celebration 00:07:57.34\00:08:02.41 and I would say there's at least 2000 people on the hill. 00:08:03.75\00:08:08.05 And this is 2009. 00:08:08.05\00:08:09.72 This would be 2009 when it happened and we celebrate. 00:08:12.89\00:08:17.96 I eat the magic mushrooms. 00:08:18.76\00:08:20.56 20 minutes go by and I start to kind of feel 00:08:20.56\00:08:23.83 the physical effects of them 00:08:23.83\00:08:25.10 and the night just devolved from there, 00:08:25.10\00:08:30.17 where I don't remember everything that happened. 00:08:31.51\00:08:33.94 There's still the story of what happened 00:08:33.94\00:08:36.11 among everybody and the story remains the same, 00:08:36.11\00:08:38.25 so I believe the accounts of four other people 00:08:38.25\00:08:41.95 that were there with me. 00:08:41.95\00:08:43.32 But what I was told had happened was, 00:08:43.32\00:08:48.26 we started to feel them and then we left the hill 00:08:48.26\00:08:51.33 and we were going up to- 00:08:51.33\00:08:53.50 Oh no, so it wasn't Buena Vista Park where Hippy Hill is, 00:08:53.50\00:08:56.63 we were going up to Buena Vista Park after this. 00:08:56.63\00:08:59.87 And when you go up to Buena Vista Park, 00:08:59.87\00:09:01.87 it's a good uphill section and when you get to the top, 00:09:03.24\00:09:04.34 there's a nice view of the whole city. 00:09:04.34\00:09:06.14 We had stopped at the bottom of the hill, 00:09:06.14\00:09:08.91 going up to the staircase and just sat down. 00:09:08.91\00:09:11.55 And when you turn around and you're sitting 00:09:11.55\00:09:13.15 on the bench of this staircase, you can see San Francisco. 00:09:13.15\00:09:16.18 And what I was experiencing, was a complete 00:09:16.18\00:09:19.39 melt of my reality. 00:09:21.32\00:09:23.46 I wasn't experiencing things in three dimensions. 00:09:23.46\00:09:26.90 I was experiencing them in two dimensions. 00:09:26.90\00:09:30.20 So everything literally looked like it was just a drawing 00:09:30.20\00:09:34.24 and I could just basically reach out 00:09:35.30\00:09:38.97 and pick things out of the world if I wanted to. 00:09:38.97\00:09:41.44 So I was not there. 00:09:41.44\00:09:43.48 That's one thing that I remember. 00:09:44.98\00:09:47.08 And then the next thing that I remember, 00:09:47.08\00:09:49.15 is sprinting as fast as I can, 00:09:49.15\00:09:53.39 and I must have been doing it for a while, 00:09:53.39\00:09:55.02 because I feel, like I'm tired. 00:09:55.02\00:09:57.66 And I looked around and I don't have my friends 00:09:57.66\00:09:59.46 anywhere near me. 00:09:59.46\00:10:00.76 So I must be running from someone or something 00:10:00.76\00:10:04.87 and I'm still not entirely there. 00:10:04.87\00:10:07.24 I'm still coming in and out of completely aware 00:10:08.37\00:10:13.01 and back in mushrooms and completely aware 00:10:13.01\00:10:15.28 and back in mushrooms, because it's, 00:10:15.28\00:10:17.51 the trip is not over. 00:10:17.51\00:10:19.65 And I don't fully have them out of my system. 00:10:19.65\00:10:22.82 But I'm sprinting and sprinting and sprinting 00:10:22.82\00:10:25.12 and all I can think is, I need to hide 00:10:25.12\00:10:27.52 because I can't run anymore. 00:10:27.52\00:10:29.42 And I jump into the bushes 00:10:29.42\00:10:31.63 and I'm underneath the bushes. 00:10:31.63\00:10:33.63 I mean like all the way in. 00:10:33.63\00:10:35.76 30 seconds later, three officers ran past. 00:10:37.00\00:10:41.37 - So they were what was chasing you? 00:10:42.54\00:10:45.51 - Yeah. 00:10:45.51\00:10:46.31 - So this is- 00:10:48.48\00:10:49.74 we probably don't have time to really 00:10:49.74\00:10:51.05 continue the saga too far, 00:10:51.05\00:10:52.58 but was this kind of one of your last times in life 00:10:52.58\00:10:55.55 to do this kinda stuff? 00:10:55.55\00:10:56.52 - Oh of course. 00:10:56.52\00:10:57.82 What had happened, was officers had pulled up 00:10:57.82\00:11:01.92 and seen us all hanging out and smoking 00:11:01.92\00:11:04.16 and they tried to stop us. 00:11:04.16\00:11:05.93 And I'm out of it and I took off running. 00:11:05.93\00:11:09.06 And so they're obviously like, 00:11:09.06\00:11:10.80 we need to chase him, but I made it out 00:11:10.80\00:11:15.87 of that situation when I probably shouldn't have. 00:11:17.01\00:11:19.14 And that was a little bit of like, 00:11:19.14\00:11:22.14 you got lucky this time. 00:11:22.14\00:11:24.05 And that was enough of a kicker 00:11:25.41\00:11:27.45 where my brain says, "You've had your fun. 00:11:27.45\00:11:31.69 "Knock it off." 00:11:32.59\00:11:33.99 - Don't do that again. 00:11:33.99\00:11:35.22 - Just out of curiosity, do you think 00:11:35.22\00:11:36.76 it was your brain or God? 00:11:36.76\00:11:37.69 - Absolutely God. 00:11:37.69\00:11:39.19 It was absolutely God. 00:11:39.19\00:11:40.93 Because, honestly when I had that moment of 00:11:40.93\00:11:44.60 "You've had your fun, knock it off." 00:11:44.60\00:11:46.33 It felt like something my seventh grade teacher 00:11:46.33\00:11:48.40 would have settled. 00:11:48.40\00:11:49.30 (everybody laughs) 00:11:50.31\00:11:52.34 - You know, and I absolutely could see in that moment 00:11:52.34\00:11:56.58 where I was headed, what I was doing 00:11:56.58\00:11:59.71 and thinking it is absolutely possible 00:11:59.71\00:12:04.12 for me to decide in my own head, 00:12:04.12\00:12:06.39 there's nothing wrong with this 00:12:06.39\00:12:08.56 and just keep going. 00:12:08.56\00:12:10.13 Because I absolutely felt that in my heart 00:12:10.13\00:12:14.73 where I was like, 00:12:14.73\00:12:16.36 I felt the devil telling me, if you enjoy it, 00:12:16.36\00:12:20.10 what's wrong with it? 00:12:20.10\00:12:21.24 And that enough, because of how I was raised 00:12:23.41\00:12:27.51 and the people that have kind of said, 00:12:27.51\00:12:29.74 it's not always gonna be "Hi, I'm the devil." 00:12:29.74\00:12:34.08 You know. 00:12:34.08\00:12:36.15 Because I heard that red flag go off in my head, 00:12:36.15\00:12:39.09 I was immediately able to about face 00:12:39.09\00:12:42.09 and it was like a knee jerk reaction, 00:12:42.09\00:12:44.33 where I was like, no, that's the devil. 00:12:44.33\00:12:46.66 No, absolutely not. 00:12:46.66\00:12:48.90 - My grandmother was number 11 in a family of 13 girls 00:12:51.33\00:12:56.30 and she sometimes felt lost in the crowd. 00:12:57.47\00:12:59.47 Do you ever feel that way? 00:12:59.47\00:13:01.98 With nearly eight billion people in the world, 00:13:01.98\00:13:04.71 it's easy to wonder if anyone even notices you're alive. 00:13:04.71\00:13:08.35 But there is someone who notices. 00:13:08.35\00:13:12.02 The Bible says God calls us by name. 00:13:12.02\00:13:15.89 He knows you, knows your name. 00:13:15.89\00:13:19.39 You're his child. 00:13:19.39\00:13:21.06 If you'd like proof, go to TalkingDonkeyInternational.org 00:13:21.06\00:13:25.97 and request offer number 130 for this free pamphlet. 00:13:25.97\00:13:31.04 There's not another you. 00:13:31.71\00:13:32.91 - Now, you're definitely a chip off the old block. 00:13:34.54\00:13:37.35 Film and media, everything are in your blood. 00:13:37.35\00:13:40.35 You've become a successful drone pilot 00:13:40.35\00:13:42.78 and hopefully more so. 00:13:42.78\00:13:44.15 We don't have time to go into a lot of that today, 00:13:44.15\00:13:46.32 but you were helping your dad film 00:13:46.32\00:13:49.56 a world-wide television, I think live production. 00:13:49.56\00:13:53.16 And kinda what happened there? 00:13:53.16\00:13:55.60 I understand something happened. 00:13:55.60\00:13:57.60 - What we were filming, was a thirty day conference, 00:13:57.60\00:14:01.70 where a pastor, Shawn Boonstra, came to talk about 00:14:03.00\00:14:07.68 the book of Revelation. 00:14:07.68\00:14:09.24 At length, in depth month long of meetings. 00:14:09.24\00:14:13.58 - Where were you filming? 00:14:13.58\00:14:14.88 - In Minneapolis at the Minneapolis Convention Center. 00:14:14.88\00:14:16.79 His event is called Revelation speaks peace, 00:14:16.79\00:14:19.99 and we set up to have 3000 people show up 00:14:19.99\00:14:25.06 and most of the time, that building was full. 00:14:26.16\00:14:29.33 We had hundreds and hundreds and hundreds 00:14:29.33\00:14:32.33 of people that were coming night upon night, 00:14:32.33\00:14:34.60 saying that I want to hear this story. 00:14:34.60\00:14:36.77 And my job was to run a camera. 00:14:36.77\00:14:38.77 And it's something that I've done 00:14:38.77\00:14:39.94 since I was seven years old. 00:14:39.94\00:14:41.21 Live broadcast video. 00:14:41.21\00:14:42.88 I've run a camera. 00:14:42.88\00:14:44.11 It's second nature to me now. 00:14:44.11\00:14:46.38 So, running a camera for Shawn is great, 00:14:46.38\00:14:50.22 because he's very active. 00:14:50.22\00:14:51.39 He'll walk back and forth. 00:14:51.39\00:14:52.42 It gives you something to do. 00:14:52.42\00:14:53.56 You're not just sitting there, 00:14:53.56\00:14:55.72 you know, falling asleep. 00:14:55.72\00:14:57.33 But the cool part is, being engaged 00:14:57.33\00:15:00.63 while running camera for him, 00:15:00.63\00:15:02.60 was also keeping me listening because - 00:15:02.60\00:15:04.93 - [Janice] You had to pay attention to him. 00:15:04.93\00:15:06.67 - Yeah, I could hear when he was about 00:15:06.67\00:15:08.04 to change what he would say or he would start to move 00:15:08.04\00:15:10.21 somewhere else. 00:15:10.21\00:15:11.47 But I was paying attention to the points too 00:15:11.47\00:15:12.81 and I was hearing so many things that had never- 00:15:12.81\00:15:16.08 I'd heard the cursory terms, 00:15:16.08\00:15:19.51 like the woman and the dragon 00:15:19.51\00:15:21.82 and the multiple headed beast and the horns 00:15:21.82\00:15:25.99 and everything like that 00:15:25.99\00:15:27.09 and then we talked for a full night 00:15:27.09\00:15:30.49 on just what the horns meant. 00:15:30.49\00:15:32.86 And then the next night, was we're gonna talk about 00:15:32.86\00:15:34.93 just what the dragon is. 00:15:34.93\00:15:36.90 So it was, let's actually break this down 00:15:36.90\00:15:41.64 other that it just being a story that sounds like it 00:15:41.64\00:15:43.84 might as well have come out of Greek Mythology, you know. 00:15:43.84\00:15:47.31 And having him break down this story 00:15:47.31\00:15:50.48 that has always been so unattainable, 00:15:50.48\00:15:55.32 because it's so not in our language. 00:15:55.32\00:15:57.85 - A lot of people think you can't understand Revelation. 00:15:57.85\00:16:00.66 Why bother? 00:16:00.66\00:16:02.16 - Right. And that's exactly what prompted 00:16:02.16\00:16:05.13 that series, is why bother? 00:16:05.13\00:16:07.60 Because it's the last book of the Bible. 00:16:07.60\00:16:10.23 It's there for a reason. 00:16:10.23\00:16:11.87 And going through these meetings, 00:16:11.87\00:16:14.24 I mean, I've been raised Seventh Day Adventists. 00:16:14.24\00:16:16.87 I don't remember what year this happened, 00:16:16.87\00:16:19.27 I think it was 2014. 00:16:19.27\00:16:21.24 So this is three, four years after I graduated high school. 00:16:21.24\00:16:26.31 And I had done pretty much every drug imaginable 00:16:27.65\00:16:31.15 that didn't involve a needle 00:16:31.15\00:16:32.62 up until that point. 00:16:33.39\00:16:34.96 And so, being invited to come run camera 00:16:36.36\00:16:39.49 for a month long meetings, 00:16:39.49\00:16:41.30 it being church meetings, 00:16:42.70\00:16:44.27 that was not the draw. 00:16:44.27\00:16:45.97 It was hey, there's a month straight of work for you. 00:16:45.97\00:16:48.97 Would you like to come out? 00:16:48.97\00:16:50.61 Yes, yes I would. 00:16:50.61\00:16:52.21 And so I came out just looking to kind of 00:16:52.21\00:16:54.81 get myself financially stable again. 00:16:54.81\00:16:56.54 Just to have this chunk of money to put away 00:16:56.54\00:16:58.85 and be able to have a little to live off. 00:16:58.85\00:17:01.05 - And it looks good on your resume. 00:17:01.05\00:17:02.65 - Right, and so I ended up coming out. 00:17:02.65\00:17:05.65 It's another video job with dad. 00:17:05.65\00:17:08.19 It's just, you know, back to the normal. 00:17:08.19\00:17:09.52 I know how to do this, but weeks go on into the meetings. 00:17:09.52\00:17:14.03 Two weeks plus, and then it's like every night 00:17:14.03\00:17:19.10 when you run camera for a sermon, 00:17:20.30\00:17:24.04 you're not running on up to the thing to run the camera, 00:17:24.04\00:17:28.84 because most of the time it's pretty drawl. 00:17:28.84\00:17:31.91 If I'm honest, but there were times 00:17:31.91\00:17:35.58 that I felt myself like, okay, is it time to go yet? 00:17:35.58\00:17:39.05 - You were wanting him to get started on another... 00:17:39.05\00:17:41.99 - Yeah, because I remembered the previous night, 00:17:41.99\00:17:44.93 having left off with, "Okay. And?" 00:17:44.93\00:17:49.96 And so I- 00:17:50.50\00:17:51.30 - So you really were interested. 00:17:51.30\00:17:53.47 - Yeah, and the fact that he took Revelation seriously 00:17:53.47\00:17:58.47 and made it digestible, was so meaningful 00:17:58.47\00:18:03.55 when there's been so many people 00:18:05.45\00:18:07.98 that probably could have done the exact same thing he did, 00:18:07.98\00:18:11.95 but didn't take the time to 00:18:11.95\00:18:13.79 or didn't invest that knowledge 00:18:13.79\00:18:17.43 that they had into me or into other people. 00:18:17.43\00:18:21.00 Because it's like I'm 23 years old 00:18:21.00\00:18:25.67 before I hear what Revelation really means. 00:18:25.67\00:18:29.07 And I was raised in the church. 00:18:30.21\00:18:32.34 That feels wrong. 00:18:33.17\00:18:34.48 And so, finally getting that substance 00:18:35.51\00:18:40.32 that I was looking for and I wasn't even in church. 00:18:41.68\00:18:45.82 It was like, okay, God I kind of get 00:18:45.82\00:18:50.46 what you're trying to tell me here 00:18:50.46\00:18:53.03 because I've spent so much of my life in church buildings 00:18:53.03\00:18:57.13 thinking that this is the only place 00:18:57.13\00:18:59.43 where you can sing the songs and feel the feelings. 00:18:59.43\00:19:02.10 No, not at all, because most of the time, 00:19:02.10\00:19:06.07 people have been my church 00:19:06.07\00:19:11.15 and way more so than any building ever has. 00:19:13.25\00:19:16.38 It's, you know, there's probably a handful of people 00:19:17.72\00:19:21.16 that I can name, that it's like I could never once 00:19:21.16\00:19:25.29 have ever entered a church building 00:19:25.29\00:19:27.76 and have those five people in my life 00:19:27.76\00:19:29.46 and I would still be the same belief that I am today. 00:19:29.46\00:19:33.17 Because seeing what belief does to somebody 00:19:33.17\00:19:38.24 when they are true about it and intentional about it, 00:19:39.61\00:19:41.48 is incredibly powerful. 00:19:41.48\00:19:45.15 It's not the, you know, 00:19:45.15\00:19:46.51 have you heard about our Lord and Savior, you know 00:19:46.51\00:19:49.72 - It's what you see in their lives 00:19:49.72\00:19:52.52 and seeing how much they care about you 00:19:52.52\00:19:54.52 and about other people. 00:19:54.52\00:19:56.49 - And so they'll- 00:19:56.49\00:19:57.86 It's not, "Have you heard about our Lord and Savior?" 00:19:57.86\00:20:01.76 It's them coming directly into my life, 00:20:01.76\00:20:04.33 looking into my eyes and saying, "Have you heard 00:20:04.33\00:20:05.93 "about my Lord and Savior?" 00:20:05.93\00:20:08.94 Because, 00:20:10.31\00:20:11.21 feeling the personal touch, made it real. 00:20:15.38\00:20:20.28 It's not just, come sit in the pew 00:20:22.08\00:20:25.42 and read page 47 of the hymnal 00:20:25.42\00:20:27.69 and then Jesus is gonna love you. 00:20:27.69\00:20:29.42 It's right now, where you are, 00:20:31.66\00:20:36.36 Jesus loves you. 00:20:36.36\00:20:37.50 And I spent so much of my life never experiencing that 00:20:39.37\00:20:44.17 and Shawn's meetings, the Revelation speaks peace, 00:20:46.61\00:20:51.58 taking something that where, if I asked the questions 00:20:53.15\00:20:57.79 that he was answering to other people, 00:20:57.79\00:21:00.26 would have been like, leave me alone. 00:21:00.26\00:21:01.96 I don't have time to talk about that right now. 00:21:01.96\00:21:04.76 Somebody intentionally taking that time 00:21:04.76\00:21:07.36 and laying it all out like it's a buffet menu, 00:21:07.36\00:21:11.90 it was like thank you for allowing me into 00:21:11.90\00:21:16.97 the depth of faith that you have. 00:21:18.04\00:21:20.41 Because how am I suppose to ever get where you are 00:21:21.91\00:21:24.48 if I don't understand what you understand. 00:21:24.48\00:21:26.75 - So at that moment, at those meetings, 00:21:28.18\00:21:30.52 God became very real to you. 00:21:30.52\00:21:33.79 - Absolutely. 00:21:33.79\00:21:35.09 - Tonight, before I get into my topic, 00:21:35.09\00:21:37.23 I've got something pretty special planned. 00:21:37.23\00:21:40.20 Tonight, before I speak, 00:21:41.63\00:21:44.33 we've got somebody in the waters of baptism. 00:21:44.33\00:21:46.74 There it is. 00:21:46.74\00:21:49.04 This is Taylor. 00:21:49.04\00:21:50.84 You might recognize Taylor, because Taylor is usually 00:21:50.84\00:21:53.11 operating one of the TV cameras. 00:21:53.11\00:21:54.84 Now he's been on the other end of the camera every night 00:21:57.85\00:22:00.18 and he and I have been studying and praying together 00:22:00.18\00:22:02.78 and he has been away for a while and he's coming home 00:22:04.19\00:22:07.19 to Jesus Christ. 00:22:08.12\00:22:09.02 We love you, Taylor. 00:22:10.06\00:22:10.96 Welcome home. 00:22:10.96\00:22:12.56 Because you love Jesus, it's our privileged now 00:22:12.56\00:22:15.90 to baptize you in the name of the Father, 00:22:15.90\00:22:18.27 and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, amen. 00:22:18.27\00:22:23.20 (applause) 00:22:23.20\00:22:25.11 Buried with Jesus and rising to new life in Him. 00:22:25.11\00:22:27.91 (applause) 00:22:29.18\00:22:31.51 Welcome home, man. 00:22:34.45\00:22:35.42 Welcome home. 00:22:36.95\00:22:38.25 - Has He stayed real since then? 00:22:42.86\00:22:44.93 - I've felt God moving in my life 00:22:46.03\00:22:49.70 so many times since then, 00:22:49.70\00:22:53.40 where, you know, I'm working for Tesla 00:22:53.40\00:22:58.37 and I'm a forklift driver and I'm making $18 and hour 00:22:59.84\00:23:01.48 and I work 70 hours a week, 00:23:01.48\00:23:03.35 but I still can't afford to live in the town that I live in. 00:23:03.35\00:23:06.48 And we scramble and we do everything we can 00:23:06.48\00:23:09.65 and it just doesn't work 00:23:09.65\00:23:11.49 ad we finally say God, where do you want us to go? 00:23:11.49\00:23:14.89 What do you want me to do? 00:23:14.89\00:23:16.49 Hey, there's a job offer in Eugene. 00:23:19.39\00:23:22.26 Hey, your wife got a job offer in Eugene. 00:23:23.60\00:23:25.73 We go up there, we get the jobs 00:23:26.97\00:23:29.60 and as we're leaving, I get a call 00:23:30.57\00:23:32.64 and get offered a better job. 00:23:32.64\00:23:34.18 We move up there, our daughter is born there. 00:23:36.64\00:23:40.25 Like, there's been so many little moments 00:23:42.08\00:23:46.72 where I feel the, you can go one of two ways 00:23:46.72\00:23:51.79 and this is God saying, "This is the fork in the path 00:23:53.09\00:23:55.76 "and you are the one that's deciding 00:23:55.76\00:23:57.43 "where you're gonna walk." 00:23:57.43\00:23:59.50 And thankfully, for the past few years, 00:23:59.50\00:24:03.84 I've felt myself intentionally saying, 00:24:03.84\00:24:06.81 "This is that moment. 00:24:06.81\00:24:07.84 "What are you gonna do?" 00:24:07.84\00:24:09.84 And trying my hardest to make the best decision. 00:24:09.84\00:24:13.31 - Taylor, we've only got a second or two left, 00:24:14.52\00:24:16.82 but I wanted to bring out, because God has been leading you 00:24:16.82\00:24:19.65 to start your own drone company 00:24:19.65\00:24:21.89 and you're an incredible pilot, 00:24:21.89\00:24:24.23 because like I say on first hand, 00:24:24.23\00:24:25.63 you've flown for us on various film projects 00:24:25.63\00:24:28.53 and I've never seen anybody as good. 00:24:28.53\00:24:31.27 What's the name of your company 00:24:31.27\00:24:32.73 and how can people get in touch with you? 00:24:32.73\00:24:34.87 - My drone company is called Archer Aero 00:24:36.10\00:24:38.51 because my son's name is Archer. 00:24:38.51\00:24:40.68 I came into his life when he was a year and a half old 00:24:42.24\00:24:44.75 and he showed me what it means to be a dad 00:24:44.75\00:24:48.05 and he opened up my life in a whole new way, 00:24:48.05\00:24:50.89 which is kind of what I want to do with drone video. 00:24:50.89\00:24:54.92 So I want to open up people's eyes to something 00:24:54.92\00:24:56.83 entirely new that you will never ever ever 00:24:56.83\00:24:59.73 have the chance to see unless I give it to you. 00:24:59.73\00:25:03.13 And that's how I feel about my son, 00:25:03.13\00:25:05.97 I would never ever, ever, ever have had the chance to see 00:25:05.97\00:25:09.17 what kind of life is possible without 00:25:09.17\00:25:11.77 that part of my life. 00:25:11.77\00:25:13.71 So Archer Arrow, and it's almost like a triple entendre 00:25:13.71\00:25:17.78 because it's my son's name, it's the archer's arrow, 00:25:17.78\00:25:22.22 as like, we are gonna shoot our shot. 00:25:22.22\00:25:26.12 We are going to be intentional about what 00:25:26.12\00:25:29.12 we want to hit and we're gonna hit it. 00:25:29.12\00:25:31.83 And then the aero is spelled A-E-R-O, 00:25:31.83\00:25:35.53 so Archer Aeronautics, 00:25:35.53\00:25:37.50 so that's the triple entendre. 00:25:37.50\00:25:40.30 It's my son, it's the archer's arrow 00:25:40.30\00:25:42.10 and it's aeronautical. 00:25:42.10\00:25:43.41 - We're gonna put your contact info 00:25:43.41\00:25:44.94 at the end of this video, 00:25:44.94\00:25:46.27 because I believe people, if they want anything 00:25:46.27\00:25:47.38 done with drones, they need to contact you. 00:25:47.38\00:25:50.55 They'll be happy with it. 00:25:50.55\00:25:51.88 - My grandmother was number 11 in a family of 13 girls 00:25:54.38\00:25:59.45 and she sometimes felt lost in the crowd. 00:26:00.59\00:26:02.49 Do you ever feel that way? 00:26:02.49\00:26:05.13 With nearly eight billion people in the world, 00:26:05.13\00:26:07.86 it's easy to wonder if anyone even notices you're alive. 00:26:07.86\00:26:12.00 But there is someone who notices. 00:26:12.00\00:26:15.17 The Bible says God calls us by name. 00:26:15.17\00:26:18.67 He knows you, knows your name. 00:26:18.67\00:26:22.51 You're his child. 00:26:22.51\00:26:24.38 If you'd like proof, go to TalkingDonkeyInternational.org 00:26:24.38\00:26:29.12 and request offer number 130 for this free pamphlet. 00:26:29.12\00:26:34.19 There's not another you. 00:26:34.86\00:26:36.09 - What an exciting testimony. 00:26:38.16\00:26:40.36 - Oh, I could have stayed up there for hours longer, 00:26:40.36\00:26:42.56 just listening to him. 00:26:42.56\00:26:43.53 I'm suer he's got more stories. 00:26:43.53\00:26:44.93 - Oh, I know he does. 00:26:44.93\00:26:46.27 You know, it is exciting, 00:26:46.27\00:26:47.77 everything that God did to bring him to himself. 00:26:47.77\00:26:51.07 - You know, what was that phrase, that saying 00:26:52.14\00:26:54.58 you told me earlier about no matter how far 00:26:54.58\00:26:57.41 you've gone away form God. 00:26:57.41\00:26:58.78 - Oh yeah, no matter how far you've gone from God, 00:26:58.78\00:27:00.72 it's only one step to get back to God. 00:27:00.72\00:27:03.42 - That was it, because I remember thinking, 00:27:03.42\00:27:05.82 I've never thought of myself as ever 00:27:05.82\00:27:07.82 getting that far off the path, 00:27:07.82\00:27:09.52 but I had to make that same decision at some point, to turn. 00:27:09.52\00:27:14.36 - Yeah, folks, I urge you today to turn. 00:27:14.36\00:27:16.60 Take that one single step back to God. 00:27:16.60\00:27:19.33 It's just that simple and He's that close. 00:27:19.33\00:27:21.57 I urge you right now choose Him. 00:27:21.57\00:27:24.27 Whatever's going on in your life. 00:27:24.27\00:27:26.27 You might feel like Janice, oh I'm pretty good. 00:27:26.27\00:27:30.35 Or like Taylor, it doesn't matter. 00:27:30.35\00:27:32.71 You're just one single step from God. 00:27:32.71\00:27:34.68 Get on your knees right now and say 00:27:34.68\00:27:35.82 God, help me. 00:27:35.82\00:27:37.65 I want to serve you today an guess what, 00:27:37.65\00:27:40.06 God will make that move to you 00:27:40.06\00:27:42.62 and save you and change your life. 00:27:42.62\00:27:45.53 Please, do it right now. 00:27:45.53\00:27:47.66 (calm music) 00:27:47.66\00:27:50.13 Thanks for joining us for Country Wisdom. 00:27:54.60\00:27:56.67 - 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