(serene instrumental music) 00:00:00.63\00:00:03.73 - Oh yes, stay right there. 00:00:05.20\00:00:06.23 Stay right there I'll be right back. 00:00:08.67\00:00:11.94 Hey, welcome everybody to Talking Donkey International 00:00:13.38\00:00:16.08 and our new television series, Country Wisdom. 00:00:16.08\00:00:18.98 - Let's set the tone for this new series of ours. 00:00:18.98\00:00:21.98 It's found in Proverbs 4, 00:00:21.98\00:00:24.62 "Let your eyes look directly forward 00:00:24.62\00:00:27.39 "and your gaze be straight before you. 00:00:27.39\00:00:30.59 "Ponder the path of your feet 00:00:30.59\00:00:33.03 "and then all your ways will be sure." 00:00:33.03\00:00:36.67 - Join us now for Country Wisdom. 00:00:36.67\00:00:38.60 (instrumental music) 00:00:38.60\00:00:41.67 (sheep bleats) (Dr. Randell laughs) 00:00:43.24\00:00:44.84 - They say ma. 00:00:44.84\00:00:46.11 - Ma huh, it's a ma. 00:00:46.11\00:00:47.88 - Ma. 00:00:47.88\00:00:48.68 - You know, I knew that you raise sheep 00:00:50.05\00:00:51.85 but I didn't know how sweet they were. 00:00:51.85\00:00:54.18 - Well, these are Jacob's sheep and they're really special. 00:00:54.18\00:00:56.79 I used to eat them Jim, 00:00:56.79\00:00:58.05 but I don't eat them anymore. (laughs) 00:00:58.05\00:00:59.22 - Praise the Lord. 00:00:59.22\00:00:59.92 - Yeah. (both laughs) 00:00:59.92\00:01:01.36 Hey, I got to ask you I know... 00:01:01.36\00:01:02.52 What, what happened? 00:01:02.52\00:01:03.73 Look like somebody hit you or something. 00:01:03.73\00:01:05.36 - Well I, ate a lot of candy when I was a kid 00:01:05.36\00:01:08.30 and wrecked my teeth 00:01:08.30\00:01:11.43 and they did a lateral sinus lift 00:01:11.43\00:01:14.37 and put two implants in, 00:01:14.37\00:01:15.50 they had to raise the the bone height 00:01:15.50\00:01:17.31 so that I could... 00:01:17.31\00:01:18.54 And a little swollen, but it's getting better. 00:01:18.54\00:01:19.61 - Oh, you're looking pretty good. 00:01:19.61\00:01:20.54 (Dr. Randell laughs) 00:01:20.54\00:01:21.94 - Hey, I want to introduce you to somebody here. 00:01:21.94\00:01:22.58 - Sure. 00:01:22.58\00:01:23.35 - Janice. 00:01:23.35\00:01:24.61 I know you're probably going to pay attention 00:01:24.61\00:01:25.78 to the baby and not to, - Oh my goodness. 00:01:25.78\00:01:26.92 - this is Dr. Elloway, - (laughs) Hi. 00:01:26.92\00:01:27.95 - Janice Nelson. - Hi. (laughs) 00:01:27.95\00:01:29.05 - Nice to meet you. 00:01:29.05\00:01:30.02 - Ain't this a sweetheart? 00:01:30.02\00:01:30.99 - Oh, I want to take 'em home. 00:01:30.99\00:01:32.72 - They can see how Jesus made so many references to sheep, 00:01:32.72\00:01:35.36 you know, they're just so sweet and they cuddle. 00:01:35.36\00:01:37.76 - Yeah. And my sheep know my voice. 00:01:37.76\00:01:39.73 I can call him from the other end of the field. 00:01:39.73\00:01:41.70 - Really? - Yeah. 00:01:41.70\00:01:42.93 - Wow. - And they'll come around 00:01:42.93\00:01:44.20 - They'll come. Yeah. Yeah. - to you? 00:01:44.20\00:01:45.43 - My Pups don't even obey like that. 00:01:45.43\00:01:47.00 (Dr. Randell laughs) 00:01:47.00\00:01:48.30 - Well, I'm well, I could spend all day 00:01:48.30\00:01:49.24 with this little guy. 00:01:49.24\00:01:50.51 Matter of fact, I'd take one home 00:01:50.51\00:01:51.77 but I want to hear the rest of your story. 00:01:51.77\00:01:52.74 I'm sure Janice does too. 00:01:52.74\00:01:53.98 - Right, he's been.. - So let's go find the. 00:01:53.98\00:01:55.48 - He's told me a little bit, but not nearly enough. 00:01:55.48\00:01:57.15 I want to hear it all. 00:01:57.15\00:01:58.45 - Let's find a shady place. - Let's go. 00:01:58.45\00:01:59.45 Let's do it. 00:01:59.45\00:02:00.25 (serene instrumental music) 00:02:00.25\00:02:03.82 I love this place. 00:02:04.59\00:02:05.75 The views and everything they're beautiful. 00:02:05.75\00:02:07.79 - Yeah. This place is just green 00:02:07.79\00:02:09.82 and there's birds and flowers and-- 00:02:09.82\00:02:13.03 - I am really struggling 00:02:13.03\00:02:14.46 to not be breaking one of the commandments about coveting. 00:02:14.46\00:02:18.23 What I wouldn't give for this deck, 00:02:18.23\00:02:20.40 especially all this trees. 00:02:20.40\00:02:21.77 It's just, I wouldn't get anything done, 00:02:21.77\00:02:23.51 I'd be sitting on a bench all day. 00:02:23.51\00:02:25.74 - But you know, 00:02:25.74\00:02:27.04 we could probably be looking at this all day long 00:02:27.04\00:02:28.44 but you've got an incredible story to tell them, 00:02:28.44\00:02:30.41 we want to get right to it. 00:02:30.41\00:02:31.91 Share with, take a big breath and share with us. (laughs) 00:02:31.91\00:02:34.72 - Well, it all started when I was younger, 00:02:34.72\00:02:38.19 my dad was interested in thoroughbred horses and as a 00:02:38.19\00:02:43.43 hobby. He was a dentist, but on a hobby, 00:02:44.29\00:02:45.93 he wanted some, I guess some action in his life 00:02:45.93\00:02:48.66 and he invested in the thoroughbred horses. 00:02:48.66\00:02:51.60 And of course he liked to race them. 00:02:51.60\00:02:53.70 And we had some winners and at a young age, 00:02:53.70\00:02:58.07 I learned... - That's an expensive hobby. 00:02:58.07\00:02:59.67 - Expensive hobby, there's jockeys, there's trainers. 00:02:59.67\00:03:02.61 And, and so we would go to this Vancouver 00:03:02.61\00:03:06.15 extubation racetrack in British Columbia, Canada, 00:03:06.15\00:03:09.78 that's where I grew up. 00:03:09.78\00:03:11.19 And I can remember 00:03:11.19\00:03:14.02 at a very young age eating in the clubhouse. 00:03:14.02\00:03:17.59 And then of course he'd want to place a bet on your, 00:03:17.59\00:03:21.06 your horse. - How young were you? 00:03:21.06\00:03:22.63 - Oh my goodness, I. 00:03:22.63\00:03:23.90 At 12 years old, they would allow gambling. 00:03:23.90\00:03:26.57 (Janice laughs) You could, you could, 00:03:26.57\00:03:27.74 you could place a bet for your dad 00:03:27.74\00:03:29.10 at 12 years old. 00:03:29.10\00:03:30.87 - So you always told him it was for your dad, was it? 00:03:30.87\00:03:33.64 - Well at first, at first it was. 00:03:33.64\00:03:36.04 And then I realized, you know what? 00:03:36.04\00:03:37.31 I could, I could, maybe I could do this, 00:03:37.31\00:03:39.11 because you watch the horses go around the track 00:03:39.11\00:03:42.38 and all you gotta do is pick a winner. 00:03:42.38\00:03:44.29 And it only had to come in first, second or third. 00:03:44.29\00:03:46.25 And for $2 bet, you could end up with three or four or $5. 00:03:46.25\00:03:49.86 And that was enough to buy a hamburger, a hot dog, 00:03:49.86\00:03:52.19 a milkshake and two chocolate bars, you know, in those days. 00:03:52.19\00:03:55.60 And so it was, it was a hook at a very young age 00:03:55.60\00:04:00.54 that got, that. 00:04:00.94\00:04:02.47 - Now you were, you were a Christian family at that time 00:04:04.34\00:04:08.04 or? - Yes, we were a Christian family. 00:04:08.04\00:04:09.44 We attended church, you know, 00:04:09.44\00:04:10.61 my dad would, would attend periodically. 00:04:10.61\00:04:13.05 My mom was faithful, very faithful 00:04:13.05\00:04:15.95 but this was my dad, you know, he wanted 00:04:15.95\00:04:18.05 he had this little side thing going on and it was-- 00:04:18.05\00:04:23.32 - And did he have any idea that you were gambling? 00:04:24.46\00:04:26.96 - Well, he gambled. 00:04:28.13\00:04:29.46 - Okay, so. 00:04:29.46\00:04:30.83 - He would bet on his horse as well, you know, so. 00:04:30.83\00:04:33.20 It was, you know, some of these things maybe aren't... 00:04:34.34\00:04:37.71 As you're growing up, 00:04:38.94\00:04:40.54 aren't weighed in different homes 00:04:40.54\00:04:44.51 as much as other homes but-- 00:04:44.51\00:04:45.95 - And I'm sure he never thought it would be a problem. 00:04:45.95\00:04:48.45 - It was just something that was fun, 00:04:48.45\00:04:50.35 - Yeah. Right - for an afternoon. 00:04:50.35\00:04:51.65 - Correct. 00:04:51.65\00:04:53.05 And they revolved around outside of, outside of the home 00:04:53.05\00:04:57.79 and an event, exciting event, you know, 00:04:58.66\00:05:01.60 seeing if your horse could win whatnot. 00:05:01.60\00:05:03.57 - So where's this a little bit of a gambling addiction go? 00:05:03.57\00:05:07.67 - So, yeah, so it started there. 00:05:07.67\00:05:09.44 And then I had another friend who introduced me to roulette 00:05:09.44\00:05:13.44 and blackjack. 00:05:13.44\00:05:14.91 And Vancouver being a port city, they brought in, 00:05:14.91\00:05:18.78 you know, some gambling. 00:05:18.78\00:05:19.91 And so we would go to these places 00:05:19.91\00:05:22.48 where you could play cards and-- 00:05:22.48\00:05:25.15 - How old were you by this time? 00:05:25.15\00:05:26.32 - I'm at, I'm a teenager high school. 00:05:26.32\00:05:30.66 - How'd you get into that? 00:05:30.66\00:05:31.83 - I know, I was just thinking, - Yeah. 00:05:31.83\00:05:33.03 you could go in and play roulette? 00:05:33.03\00:05:35.03 - So, so at 18, I think 18, 19, 18, 19. 00:05:35.03\00:05:39.60 You could, you could, you could, you could play. (laughs) 00:05:39.60\00:05:42.64 - But were you playing before that? 00:05:42.64\00:05:45.27 - While you, I... 00:05:45.27\00:05:46.44 (Janice laughs) - I don't think-- 00:05:46.44\00:05:47.68 - That's a yes-- 00:05:47.68\00:05:48.71 - Don't go - No, No, I-- (laughs) 00:05:48.71\00:05:49.78 - too much on this one. (all laughs) 00:05:49.78\00:05:51.11 - So mostly it was the racetrack. 00:05:51.11\00:05:52.91 Until, until I got, I got a little bit older and in college. 00:05:52.91\00:05:54.82 - So you play the racetrack all the time kind of through? 00:05:54.82\00:05:57.82 - Yeah. When I could, I mean, 00:05:57.82\00:05:59.19 I didn't have it when I go with my dad. 00:05:59.19\00:06:00.46 And then when I got my driver's license 00:06:00.46\00:06:01.86 I found myself, (instrumental music) 00:06:01.86\00:06:03.69 going there. 00:06:03.69\00:06:05.09 - Now you skipped through this part a little bit 00:06:05.09\00:06:06.76 but what was your quote Christian experience 00:06:06.76\00:06:09.86 during this time? 00:06:09.86\00:06:11.10 - (coughs) Well, my Christian experience was... 00:06:12.57\00:06:15.34 You know it's difficult to answer because you know 00:06:19.11\00:06:20.91 you've got one foot in the world and, 00:06:20.91\00:06:22.84 and one foot doing that, but you know, I, I love the Lord. 00:06:22.84\00:06:27.22 I, I would read my Bible 00:06:27.22\00:06:29.28 and I would have family worship and things like that. 00:06:29.28\00:06:32.92 So the outsider wouldn't, 00:06:32.92\00:06:34.12 wouldn't had a clue that, you know, 00:06:34.12\00:06:36.56 that this was going on. 00:06:36.56\00:06:38.29 And for probably most of the family, I mean, 00:06:38.29\00:06:42.00 I'm sure there's a lot of people that go to church 00:06:42.00\00:06:43.57 and they do things. 00:06:43.57\00:06:44.83 They come on Sabbath morning (birds chirping) 00:06:44.83\00:06:47.54 and have no idea what's going on in their life. 00:06:47.54\00:06:50.11 - That's really what you're, why you decided to 00:06:50.11\00:06:52.21 share your testimony today, right? 00:06:52.21\00:06:53.91 Is because, you can be sitting in the church pew 00:06:53.91\00:06:57.05 and you can look nice and you, 00:06:57.05\00:06:59.11 you know, you're a doctor. 00:06:59.11\00:07:00.62 You've got an upstanding business in the community 00:07:00.62\00:07:02.48 and everything. 00:07:02.48\00:07:03.72 Christian, but there's other things going on. 00:07:03.72\00:07:06.02 Um, let's just kind of continue. 00:07:06.69\00:07:09.79 What happened after the teenage years? 00:07:10.96\00:07:14.00 - So attended college 00:07:14.00\00:07:16.20 and of course in college you're pretty busy 00:07:16.20\00:07:18.27 but I was still make, 00:07:18.27\00:07:20.04 you know, expeditions to go and find a time to do that. 00:07:20.04\00:07:23.17 And in fact, right up until, right into dental school, 00:07:23.17\00:07:28.44 I was, would go to, cause went to Loma Linda 00:07:29.34\00:07:31.08 and I would take a little time to go to Las Vegas. 00:07:31.08\00:07:35.05 - Christian dental school? 00:07:35.05\00:07:36.22 - Yup, Christian dental school, and, 00:07:36.22\00:07:38.65 and what was exciting, well, 00:07:38.65\00:07:40.22 I didn't have much money to lose at that time. 00:07:40.22\00:07:41.79 I had barely anything, but I made friends 00:07:41.79\00:07:44.29 with the pit boss and, 00:07:44.29\00:07:46.09 and he would put me in a room for free 00:07:46.09\00:07:49.10 and, and get me a free meal. 00:07:49.10\00:07:51.47 And, and I would stay there for the weekend and, 00:07:51.47\00:07:53.94 and have a good time and wouldn't lose much money, 00:07:53.94\00:07:56.64 I might make a little money. 00:07:56.64\00:07:57.77 It just, it was, it was a horrible-- 00:07:57.77\00:08:00.31 - You said we would stay - I'd stay up-- 00:08:00.31\00:08:01.41 So you had friends who'd go with you there? 00:08:01.41\00:08:02.58 - Yes, it does, I'd have friends. 00:08:02.58\00:08:03.98 Yeah, it would. That would come. 00:08:03.98\00:08:07.28 - I can imagine that part of the allure is 00:08:07.28\00:08:09.95 that hit of adrenaline because you might, 00:08:09.95\00:08:13.52 you know, you might win and I'm sure when you do win... 00:08:13.52\00:08:17.39 I'm talking from imagination here. 00:08:17.39\00:08:19.36 - Right? Okay. 00:08:19.36\00:08:20.30 - It just hasn't been something 00:08:20.30\00:08:21.43 I'm tempted to spend money on, 00:08:21.43\00:08:22.96 but you take me to a shoe store, a bookstore, 00:08:22.96\00:08:25.17 and all bets are off. 00:08:25.17\00:08:27.14 But, was that part of it? 00:08:27.14\00:08:29.27 It's like, every time you're thinking I, I might win. 00:08:29.27\00:08:33.01 - Yeah. So of course the gambler 00:08:33.01\00:08:34.28 always thinks he's gonna win, 00:08:34.28\00:08:35.28 and when you win, it's exciting. 00:08:35.28\00:08:36.54 But you find yourself, it's actually slavery. 00:08:36.54\00:08:39.35 You're staying up all night, all hours. 00:08:39.35\00:08:41.95 You don't even want to go to the bathroom, 00:08:41.95\00:08:43.62 when you're winning, because-- 00:08:43.62\00:08:45.05 - But you still managed to get through dental school? 00:08:45.05\00:08:46.82 (both laughs) 00:08:46.82\00:08:49.12 - It's a, it's, it's an addiction. 00:08:49.12\00:08:51.46 And, it's a, it's a cherished, 00:08:51.46\00:08:54.46 as a cherish sin that some people might have that, 00:08:54.46\00:08:57.00 that I'd like to reach out to you today. 00:08:57.00\00:08:58.47 Because, they don't understand that, that, 00:08:58.47\00:09:02.17 you know just like there's a Holy spirit, 00:09:02.17\00:09:03.57 there's an unholy spirit. 00:09:03.57\00:09:05.17 And when you start realizing that Satan controls, 00:09:05.17\00:09:07.91 that's his playground and he can control the cards. 00:09:07.91\00:09:10.35 He can make you win, he can make you lose. 00:09:10.35\00:09:12.55 It's not a nice game to be in. 00:09:12.55\00:09:14.48 - You use the word slavery. - Yes. 00:09:14.48\00:09:16.62 - Would you unpack that? Just a little bit more? 00:09:16.62\00:09:19.12 - Slavery? (sighs) 00:09:19.12\00:09:20.49 Well. You know, the children of Israel. (chuckles) 00:09:20.49\00:09:23.46 They were in slavery 00:09:23.46\00:09:24.66 and Moses went in there to get them out 00:09:24.66\00:09:27.10 so they could start keeping Sabbath 00:09:27.10\00:09:28.76 and start living the abundant life that Jesus promises. 00:09:28.76\00:09:32.47 And I probably missed out on the abundant life 00:09:32.47\00:09:34.14 when I was in that sort of situation. 00:09:34.14\00:09:35.60 I'm sure I did. - But you thought 00:09:35.60\00:09:36.60 you were having a good life? 00:09:36.60\00:09:37.54 - I thought I was. Right. 00:09:37.54\00:09:38.27 It's a big lie. 00:09:38.27\00:09:39.44 - But you weren't really in control? 00:09:39.44\00:09:41.28 - Well, no, I mean. 00:09:41.28\00:09:42.84 When you're, when you're feeling like, 00:09:42.84\00:09:44.78 you're gonna win all the time 00:09:44.78\00:09:46.51 and that you have to take your own money, 00:09:46.51\00:09:47.62 and then you end up losing it 00:09:47.62\00:09:48.65 and then sometimes you win, 00:09:48.65\00:09:49.78 and most of the time you lose. 00:09:49.78\00:09:52.05 If, if Las Vegas made 10 cents on every person 00:09:52.05\00:09:55.16 that went in there, they would go bankrupt. 00:09:55.16\00:09:56.93 So obviously everybody's losing. Um (sighs) 00:09:56.93\00:10:00.93 - No, you uh. you're in college. 00:10:00.93\00:10:03.60 I understand, some point in time, 00:10:03.60\00:10:05.07 I know you got married, I've met your wonderful wife. 00:10:05.07\00:10:07.67 - Yeah, she's a blessing to me. 00:10:07.67\00:10:09.07 - Did she know what was going on? 00:10:09.07\00:10:11.01 - Yeah, she is aware of it, but I, I, 00:10:11.01\00:10:14.11 I, what's the word, won her heart? 00:10:14.11\00:10:18.35 (all laughs) 00:10:18.35\00:10:19.51 - Okay. Why, she had a good catch. 00:10:19.51\00:10:20.72 (all laughs) 00:10:20.72\00:10:21.75 - She recognized your potential? 00:10:21.75\00:10:23.15 - Maybe, yeah. 00:10:23.15\00:10:24.29 And it come from a really good family. 00:10:24.29\00:10:27.26 That her father, a man of God, 00:10:27.26\00:10:31.36 who prayed for us and our future and, 00:10:31.36\00:10:34.96 and thankful for that. 00:10:34.96\00:10:37.47 I, you know married into a good family 00:10:37.47\00:10:38.77 makes a big difference. 00:10:38.77\00:10:39.87 - So this continued on, 00:10:41.10\00:10:43.61 you didn't stop put the brakes on when you got married? 00:10:43.61\00:10:46.31 - Yeah but it, significantly slowed down and, 00:10:47.61\00:10:49.81 and my wife Nora had never really 00:10:49.81\00:10:51.55 wanted anything to do with it. 00:10:52.65\00:10:54.55 You know, she'd always be hesitant to, 00:10:54.55\00:10:57.85 to allow me to do it. 00:10:57.85\00:10:59.12 But then I would do it occasionally, secretly. 00:10:59.12\00:11:00.72 And so I'd get a call, "Where are you?" 00:11:00.72\00:11:02.99 And I go, "Well..." 00:11:02.99\00:11:04.19 You know, I didn't want to lie to her 00:11:04.19\00:11:05.39 and so I'd say, "Well, I, you know, 00:11:05.39\00:11:07.60 "just finished playing hockey." 00:11:07.60\00:11:08.76 And then I would end up stopping off 00:11:08.76\00:11:11.07 at the little card shop where nobody knew I would, 00:11:11.07\00:11:13.80 was there. 00:11:13.80\00:11:15.17 (acoustic music) 00:11:15.17\00:11:16.74 - I used to be a drug dealer and alcoholic and a thief, 00:11:16.74\00:11:19.21 along with far too many other things to mention. 00:11:19.21\00:11:22.51 You know I kidded myself that, I was great. 00:11:22.51\00:11:24.95 Life was great. 00:11:24.95\00:11:26.18 But, knowing there was a massive void in my life. 00:11:26.18\00:11:29.52 I'd like to offer you a pamphlet called breaking addictions. 00:11:29.52\00:11:33.02 You know addictions come in all types, shapes and sizes, 00:11:33.02\00:11:35.92 but you don't need to be chained to them any longer. 00:11:35.92\00:11:39.53 Go to talkingdonkeyinternational.org 00:11:39.53\00:11:41.93 and order your free copy today. 00:11:41.93\00:11:44.03 Request, offer one-on-one, breaking addictions. 00:11:44.03\00:11:47.60 Remember it's completely free. 00:11:47.60\00:11:49.27 - Introducing, (instrumental music) 00:11:55.21\00:11:56.18 Talking Donkey International. 00:11:56.18\00:11:57.78 God once used a donkey to spread his word 00:11:57.78\00:12:00.62 but he'd rather use all of us. 00:12:00.62\00:12:02.68 It's time to prepare quality programming created to attract 00:12:03.89\00:12:07.19 and reach viewers of the world, 00:12:07.19\00:12:08.82 not just those of our denomination. 00:12:08.82\00:12:11.29 Together, we can carry the final advent message 00:12:11.29\00:12:14.10 to the individuals of planet earth 00:12:14.10\00:12:16.36 and hasten the return of our Lord. 00:12:16.36\00:12:18.77 Please pray for and support the successful mission 00:12:18.77\00:12:21.90 of Talking Donkey International. 00:12:21.90\00:12:24.14 - I've had the opportunity to know you for many years. 00:12:25.47\00:12:27.91 Of course, I guess I didn't totally know you 00:12:27.91\00:12:29.98 because you're spraying this on me more recently. 00:12:29.98\00:12:32.45 (Dr. Randell laughs) 00:12:32.45\00:12:33.82 But, I can remember finding you one time and said, 00:12:33.82\00:12:36.55 "Randell you need to come with me on a mission trip." 00:12:36.55\00:12:39.85 And you said, "Oh, Jim, I, I just can't afford to do that." 00:12:39.85\00:12:43.66 Just can't afford to do that and I remember saying, 00:12:43.66\00:12:45.43 "Well, why don't you pray about it?" 00:12:45.43\00:12:47.76 And you know, kind of, how do you refuse as a church member, 00:12:47.76\00:12:50.10 "How'd, no, I'm not gonna pray about it?" 00:12:50.10\00:12:52.20 But you did and, and-- 00:12:52.20\00:12:53.70 - He roped me in on my first mission trip, same way. 00:12:53.70\00:12:56.27 (all laughs) 00:12:56.27\00:12:57.54 - Would you kind of pick up on that story 00:12:57.54\00:12:58.74 and what God did through there for you? 00:12:58.74\00:13:00.44 - Yeah there was a time where we were coming to your church 00:13:00.44\00:13:02.44 and it wasn't just one time. 00:13:02.44\00:13:03.71 Jim you invited me, I think you invited me, 00:13:03.71\00:13:05.31 you were very persistent. 00:13:05.31\00:13:06.55 I think he invited me three or four times and, 00:13:06.55\00:13:08.68 and the big deal was 00:13:08.68\00:13:10.05 I couldn't leave my practice for three weeks. 00:13:10.05\00:13:11.85 Because, you can't just shut things down for the rest... 00:13:11.85\00:13:14.42 There's no way if I, financially could do that and... 00:13:14.42\00:13:16.83 But finally with your persistence, and I did say I 00:13:16.83\00:13:21.53 would go. And it's funny, that minute I said, I, I would go, 00:13:21.53\00:13:24.33 I started getting these big cases, bridge cases 00:13:25.30\00:13:28.27 and implant cases and, and my office is so busy. 00:13:28.27\00:13:32.27 And the day before I left, I looked at the bottom line 00:13:32.27\00:13:35.01 and I had, I had enough money 00:13:35.01\00:13:37.18 to pay for three weeks of vacation/mission work. 00:13:37.18\00:13:42.45 And uh, and God provided 00:13:42.98\00:13:44.72 and so that was evidence to me 00:13:44.72\00:13:45.99 that he really wanted me to go. 00:13:45.99\00:13:47.59 And that was life changing not only for me, 00:13:47.59\00:13:49.76 but for my, my daughter, Natasha. 00:13:49.76\00:13:51.43 Who's now in dental school, by the way. 00:13:51.43\00:13:52.99 (all laughs) Doesn't gamble. 00:13:52.99\00:13:54.60 (all laughs) 00:13:54.60\00:13:56.03 - I'll remember, I remember you called me up 00:13:56.03\00:13:58.40 and said, "Jim you'll never guess 00:13:58.40\00:13:59.57 "what happened to me in my practice." 00:13:59.57\00:14:01.24 I remember saying, "Yes, I would, 00:14:01.24\00:14:02.70 but go ahead and tell me anyway. 00:14:02.70\00:14:04.24 (Janice laughs) 00:14:04.24\00:14:05.17 And, and you shared this story. 00:14:05.17\00:14:06.17 - Yeah. 00:14:06.17\00:14:07.34 - But you went on the mission trip. 00:14:07.34\00:14:08.54 Tell us a little bit about that trip. 00:14:08.54\00:14:09.44 - That was a great trip. 00:14:09.44\00:14:11.41 We ministered to the people there 00:14:11.41\00:14:12.85 and saw so many needy cases. 00:14:12.85\00:14:15.65 And what I remember the most is 00:14:15.65\00:14:18.65 I'm really happy that my youngest went, 00:14:18.65\00:14:20.86 she like eight years old at the time 00:14:20.86\00:14:22.39 and she was sterilizing and changes, life changing for her. 00:14:22.39\00:14:25.53 But, you know, probably I, I, I... 00:14:25.53\00:14:30.53 There's so many things Jim, 00:14:31.83\00:14:33.23 I could talk about that trip, but it was, it was... 00:14:33.23\00:14:36.57 But at this time, you know, 00:14:36.57\00:14:37.74 I don't remember if I was gambling. 00:14:37.74\00:14:39.37 I was closer to the Lord then, but, you know, 00:14:39.37\00:14:41.51 things like this can kind of creep up on you. 00:14:41.51\00:14:43.78 They go away for a while and they creep up on you. (sighs) 00:14:43.78\00:14:46.88 But uh, uh-- 00:14:46.88\00:14:49.15 - You know, correct me if wrong, 00:14:49.15\00:14:50.59 but it seems like you were having this real conflict 00:14:50.59\00:14:53.82 in your heart and in your mind that, 00:14:53.82\00:14:56.32 "I want to go gamble, but now I'm doing mission trips 00:14:56.32\00:14:59.26 "and God's speaking to my heart." 00:14:59.26\00:15:00.70 I mean, what was going on? 00:15:00.70\00:15:02.53 - Boy, that's a lukewarm state, isn't it? 00:15:02.53\00:15:04.67 Not a place, almost like, you know it's frightful when you, 00:15:04.67\00:15:08.07 when described, it describes people today. 00:15:08.07\00:15:11.77 You know, one foot in the church 00:15:11.77\00:15:13.01 and one foot out of the church. 00:15:13.01\00:15:14.54 So, you know, I came across this, caught this... 00:15:14.54\00:15:19.41 My one of my favorite authors says that, 00:15:19.41\00:15:21.12 "One cherish sin, can, if you don't overcome it..." 00:15:21.12\00:15:26.05 Let me get the right exact context of that. 00:15:26.05\00:15:28.29 It says here, "Even one wrong trait of character, 00:15:28.29\00:15:33.23 "one sinful desire, persistently cherished, 00:15:33.23\00:15:38.10 "will eventually neutralize all the power of the gospel." 00:15:38.10\00:15:42.74 So-- 00:15:42.74\00:15:43.91 - It's like a couple cells of a cancer 00:15:43.91\00:15:45.61 that gets into the body and just keeps growing. 00:15:45.61\00:15:47.48 - Yeah and then all God's love and mercy 00:15:47.48\00:15:49.48 and him being a savior, 00:15:49.48\00:15:51.61 understanding all of that, is neutralized. 00:15:51.61\00:15:54.32 If you cherish, you're not willing to, to give it up. 00:15:54.32\00:15:57.42 So there's this battle, 00:15:57.42\00:15:58.85 there's great controversy going on in my own life and-- 00:15:58.85\00:16:01.09 - So what was the turning point? 00:16:01.09\00:16:03.06 - Well, it's, it's, it's, it's interesting. 00:16:03.06\00:16:06.13 The turning point was, I showed up to church one... 00:16:06.13\00:16:09.10 Well, I, I went to a dental meeting in, in Redding 00:16:09.10\00:16:12.60 and went to the casino 00:16:12.60\00:16:14.27 and played for about an hour after the meeting. 00:16:14.27\00:16:15.97 Didn't think anybody saw me 00:16:15.97\00:16:17.74 and went to church that Sabbath. 00:16:17.74\00:16:19.87 This was a Friday and the next day was Sabbath 00:16:19.87\00:16:21.88 and went to church. 00:16:21.88\00:16:23.08 And I found a note on my car. (chuckles) 00:16:23.08\00:16:25.71 And the note said, "We saw you, 00:16:25.71\00:16:27.58 "and we don't think this is appropriate for an elder." 00:16:28.72\00:16:30.89 I was an elder. 00:16:30.89\00:16:32.12 This was quite a few years ago, 00:16:32.12\00:16:33.76 - Which is (mumbles) - maybe nine, nine or 00:16:33.76\00:16:36.39 nine years ago or something like that. 00:16:36.39\00:16:38.03 - You keep the Sabbath. 00:16:38.03\00:16:39.09 So you're a Seventh-day Adventist 00:16:39.09\00:16:40.56 (Dr. Randell laughs) and now you're, you're, 00:16:40.56\00:16:41.76 you're one of the local leaders of the church. 00:16:41.76\00:16:43.26 - Yeah. That's very, very bad almost. 00:16:43.26\00:16:48.54 So, I see this note and it says, 00:16:49.20\00:16:50.64 "We saw you and we don't think that's appropriate." 00:16:50.64\00:16:53.98 And, and I, I said, "Okay, you know, who wrote this note?" 00:16:53.98\00:16:57.88 There's no sign, no. 00:16:57.88\00:16:59.15 Nobody came up to me, nobody approached me. 00:16:59.15\00:17:00.98 And for all I know an angel put that there, okay? 00:17:00.98\00:17:03.45 I really, to this day I don't know who put that note there, 00:17:03.45\00:17:05.45 so this started the wheels turning. 00:17:05.45\00:17:06.79 You know what? I've got a double life. 00:17:06.79\00:17:09.16 And even though I'm not doing this all the time, 00:17:10.13\00:17:11.86 it's still something that... 00:17:11.86\00:17:13.29 Somebody recognized as, as something that's not proper 00:17:13.29\00:17:18.00 for an elder, a church, to be doing. 00:17:18.83\00:17:20.80 And none of us are perfect, Jim. 00:17:20.80\00:17:22.77 And, but, but you know, this, these open sins. 00:17:22.77\00:17:25.97 You know, the gambler, the drunkards often despised, 00:17:25.97\00:17:29.81 the gambler's despised but pride, 00:17:29.81\00:17:33.28 cowardliness and selfishness go on rebuked. (sighs) 00:17:33.28\00:17:37.09 This was an open sin that I felt a lot of shame. 00:17:37.09\00:17:40.96 - If I can take you back to that moment, 00:17:40.96\00:17:43.56 again when you picked up that note and read that. 00:17:43.56\00:17:45.89 - Yeah. 00:17:45.89\00:17:46.83 - What went through your mind? 00:17:46.83\00:17:48.33 - I was found out, like, somebody knows. 00:17:48.33\00:17:51.13 You know, I can't hide this anymore. 00:17:51.13\00:17:52.73 This is my church, someone at my church knows. 00:17:52.73\00:17:54.77 So this is like, this is not good. 00:17:54.77\00:17:57.31 You know, I can't-- 00:17:57.31\00:17:58.77 - I I've, I've got to tell you, I can't help but think about 00:17:58.77\00:18:01.31 in some of the African nations. 00:18:01.31\00:18:03.14 You know, the witch doctors and things, 00:18:03.14\00:18:04.48 people go to the witch doctor and they... 00:18:04.48\00:18:06.25 The witch doctor tells him, go do this, you know? 00:18:06.25\00:18:08.18 And it's in the secret of the night, but then 00:18:08.18\00:18:10.29 the witch doctor tells somebody else. 00:18:10.29\00:18:12.55 That's the way the devil is. 00:18:12.55\00:18:14.02 You know, he, he wants to make the life of everybody 00:18:14.02\00:18:16.69 absolutely miserable. 00:18:16.69\00:18:18.29 So he gets you to do something, 00:18:18.29\00:18:19.66 then he tells somebody else that you're doing it. 00:18:19.66\00:18:21.40 (Dr. Randell chuckles) 00:18:21.40\00:18:22.83 And, and that was, it was making your life miserable really. 00:18:22.83\00:18:25.80 - Well. It was, actually, I'm thankful for that note 00:18:25.80\00:18:29.60 because it was, it was, I think the icing on the cake. 00:18:29.60\00:18:33.11 That turning point, the realized that I, 00:18:33.11\00:18:36.95 I needed to do something about this. 00:18:36.95\00:18:38.51 I can't let this go on. 00:18:38.51\00:18:39.88 So, 00:18:39.88\00:18:40.92 I went to camp meeting 00:18:41.85\00:18:43.75 and they were talking about getting anointed for sickness. 00:18:43.75\00:18:48.96 And, you know, I, James talks about this. 00:18:49.82\00:18:52.56 If any of you are sick and you know, 00:18:52.56\00:18:55.23 sickness doesn't necessarily have to be cancer or, 00:18:55.23\00:18:58.13 or heart disease or, you know, AIDS or whatever. 00:18:58.13\00:19:01.40 And in my mind, gambling can be is, 00:19:02.24\00:19:04.31 is a sickness and it was a cherish sin. 00:19:04.31\00:19:07.18 And so I wanted to be anointed and... 00:19:08.91\00:19:11.31 I didn't want to do it at Camp meeting, 00:19:11.31\00:19:12.58 so I came back and I explained to my pastors 00:19:12.58\00:19:15.35 that I trusted - Uh-oh. 00:19:15.35\00:19:16.89 and I sat them down. 00:19:16.89\00:19:18.29 I had two pastors that I trusted and I sat them down. 00:19:18.29\00:19:20.79 And I explained to them about the note. 00:19:20.79\00:19:23.32 I explained to them about that, 00:19:23.32\00:19:24.46 that I wanted to be anointed 00:19:24.46\00:19:26.06 and I wanted to be done with this. 00:19:26.06\00:19:27.66 So-- 00:19:27.66\00:19:28.60 - And their response was? 00:19:28.60\00:19:30.07 - Oh, they were happy. 00:19:30.07\00:19:31.23 - Had they ever been asked to anoint someone, 00:19:31.23\00:19:33.50 for something like that? 00:19:33.50\00:19:34.80 - I don't think so. 00:19:34.80\00:19:35.64 I don't think so. 00:19:35.64\00:19:37.01 And there's power in anointing. 00:19:37.01\00:19:38.37 And, so, if anybody out there is doing 00:19:38.37\00:19:41.91 you know, something now, this is, this is key. 00:19:41.91\00:19:43.75 I think, the Holy spirit. 00:19:43.75\00:19:45.65 So they, you know, we knelled down and, and I swore... 00:19:45.65\00:19:48.25 I'd and they, I asked for a double portion. (laughs) 00:19:48.25\00:19:51.72 And the, and, the true test was just actually, 00:19:51.72\00:19:56.22 I think six months ago, we had another dental meeting. 00:19:56.22\00:19:59.19 You know, I hadn't been to Las Vegas in years 00:20:00.30\00:20:02.43 and this anointing took place maybe eight years ago. 00:20:02.43\00:20:05.83 And I haven't gambled since. 00:20:05.83\00:20:08.00 - Amen. - Praise God, you know-- 00:20:08.00\00:20:09.54 - What do you tribute that to? 00:20:09.54\00:20:11.14 - Oh, it's a... 00:20:11.14\00:20:12.51 There's only one thing it could be attributed to 00:20:12.51\00:20:13.51 and that's the power of God. 00:20:13.51\00:20:14.88 There's no question about it, it's his mercy. 00:20:14.88\00:20:16.61 - Because you couldn't have just 00:20:16.61\00:20:17.68 stopped on your own. - No, no I, I, 00:20:17.68\00:20:18.88 I don't think so, because it... 00:20:18.88\00:20:21.52 The truth, you know, the true test again 00:20:21.52\00:20:23.42 was going to Las Vegas and, 00:20:23.42\00:20:26.05 and, and being in that situation, I said, 00:20:26.05\00:20:28.12 "Okay, I went there, I purposed in my heart." 00:20:28.12\00:20:29.89 You know, Daniel purposed... 00:20:29.89\00:20:31.03 I purposed in my heart before I went 00:20:31.03\00:20:32.99 because we didn't really want to go there 00:20:32.99\00:20:34.66 but there's a meeting we had to go to, this implant meeting. 00:20:34.66\00:20:37.13 And, and so we went because that was where it was offered. 00:20:37.13\00:20:39.67 And, I hate the place, you know. 00:20:39.67\00:20:41.84 I don't even want to be there, but the meeting was there. 00:20:41.84\00:20:45.01 So that's why we were there. 00:20:45.01\00:20:46.91 And, the first day was no problem, you know. 00:20:46.91\00:20:49.84 Second day, I think we were there three nights. 00:20:49.84\00:20:52.18 And the second day was, you know the little, 00:20:52.18\00:20:53.62 the little voice I started to say, 00:20:53.62\00:20:56.28 "You know, just go play a little bit." 00:20:56.28\00:20:57.62 And I went downstairs, 00:20:57.62\00:20:58.85 I kind of looked and, "Ah, that's okay." 00:20:58.85\00:21:00.39 And on the third, the third day, 00:21:00.39\00:21:02.66 the day we were leaving, that was the day. 00:21:02.66\00:21:05.59 That morning I got up and said, 00:21:05.59\00:21:06.96 I told my wife, "You know, I really want to play. 00:21:06.96\00:21:08.36 "I, I just want to, just try a little bit." 00:21:08.36\00:21:11.60 - Devil really poured it on him. 00:21:11.60\00:21:12.70 - He did. 00:21:12.70\00:21:13.94 He just, just, and, and so she says, "No." 00:21:13.94\00:21:15.44 You know, I thank God for a good, good wife. 00:21:15.44\00:21:18.84 And I, and I said, "Yeah, I don't want to, but I want to." 00:21:18.84\00:21:21.04 You know, I'm having that, that, "We're here, you know 00:21:21.04\00:21:23.85 "and we're leaving today, you know, how, you know." 00:21:23.85\00:21:27.08 Trying to justify it. 00:21:27.08\00:21:28.15 - Put a few quarters of-- (laughs) 00:21:28.15\00:21:29.15 - Yeah, you know. (sighs) 00:21:29.15\00:21:30.82 Whatever. 00:21:30.82\00:21:32.22 And I went outside the hotel we were staying at, 00:21:32.22\00:21:34.96 and it was Bellagio, or was it the Bla-- 00:21:34.96\00:21:37.36 I think it was Bellagio Hotel. 00:21:37.36\00:21:38.36 Outside they have this statue, 00:21:38.36\00:21:41.00 and it's this awful-looking dragon and its name was Karin. 00:21:41.00\00:21:45.23 And I looked up what Karin was 00:21:45.23\00:21:47.54 and it said, God of money or, or, or luck 00:21:47.54\00:21:51.21 or something like that, I can't remember. 00:21:51.21\00:21:53.38 And I was like, this is not, this is not good. 00:21:53.38\00:21:55.94 And, and, and at that point again, 00:21:55.94\00:21:57.75 I just said, "Thank you Lord, for deliverance of this." 00:21:57.75\00:21:59.95 And, when I got on the plane, it wasn't till I got... 00:21:59.95\00:22:02.08 'Cause at the airport, they got slot machines and gambling. 00:22:02.08\00:22:04.39 - Oh, they have everywhere, 00:22:04.39\00:22:05.35 - Everywhere! - The restroom. 00:22:05.35\00:22:06.62 And so I got on the plane 00:22:06.62\00:22:08.16 and it wasn't until I was on the plane, 00:22:08.16\00:22:09.46 I looked out the window 00:22:09.46\00:22:10.83 and I looked at let's call it Sodom and Gomorrah. 00:22:10.83\00:22:13.13 And I looked at it and I were taken off 00:22:13.13\00:22:15.30 and I just started crying. 00:22:15.30\00:22:16.33 I said, "Thank you, Jesus. 00:22:16.33\00:22:18.00 "Thank you for giving me the victory over this." 00:22:18.00\00:22:19.70 Not one penny, not one nickel was spent there. 00:22:19.70\00:22:22.77 And, it's because his power and his love. 00:22:22.77\00:22:26.17 - Describe for me, if you would, 00:22:26.17\00:22:28.08 Dr. Elloway's life now versus Dr. Elloway's life then 00:22:28.08\00:22:32.31 and how it's affected your family 00:22:32.31\00:22:33.92 and your church and practice everything. 00:22:33.92\00:22:37.42 - Well, there's more, there's more power in 00:22:37.42\00:22:40.06 and more validity and, 00:22:40.06\00:22:42.09 and what I, I say, 00:22:43.02\00:22:44.19 because now I, I, (hopeful music) 00:22:44.19\00:22:45.93 I know that that... 00:22:45.93\00:22:47.50 I mean, I'm hanging out. 00:22:47.50\00:22:49.30 I'm talking all day long about God now. 00:22:49.30\00:22:51.73 I mean, I did before. 00:22:51.73\00:22:53.07 But I can, I can feel... 00:22:53.07\00:22:55.14 I, you know, when you, when you have been this way 00:22:55.14\00:22:59.71 and then that way. 00:22:59.71\00:23:00.84 I guess the best way to say it is you have a more of a, 00:23:03.35\00:23:07.85 you have a walk. 00:23:07.85\00:23:08.95 You know, how Enoch walked with God? 00:23:08.95\00:23:11.22 I wasn't walking all the time. 00:23:11.22\00:23:14.02 I would walk and then I would fall and walk and I'd fall. 00:23:14.02\00:23:17.36 You know, I'd still go to, I'd probably still fall. 00:23:17.36\00:23:19.33 And that, in a minute you overcome something. 00:23:19.33\00:23:21.30 There's, the Holy spirit reveals more things in your life. 00:23:21.30\00:23:24.63 (Janice laughs) 00:23:24.63\00:23:25.80 So it's like, now I got to work on this, 00:23:25.80\00:23:26.94 this, this and this. (Jim laughs) 00:23:26.94\00:23:27.97 And so it's, it's an ongoing, 00:23:27.97\00:23:29.57 ongoing sanctification is work of a lifetime 00:23:29.57\00:23:31.77 and I haven't arrived. 00:23:31.77\00:23:33.11 I just overcome something that was nagging me 00:23:33.11\00:23:36.01 and eating away at me like a cancer, like you said. 00:23:36.01\00:23:38.65 And to get victory over that is huge. 00:23:38.65\00:23:41.48 For my family, you know, 00:23:41.48\00:23:43.12 they really, they really didn't know too much. 00:23:43.12\00:23:45.59 I kept it from them. 00:23:45.59\00:23:46.62 My wife knew, but my kids, 00:23:46.62\00:23:48.42 you want to set a good example for them, 00:23:48.42\00:23:49.69 so they didn't really know. 00:23:49.69\00:23:50.89 But I, you can talk about these things, 00:23:50.89\00:23:53.73 when you know that God's given you victory over them 00:23:53.73\00:23:55.53 and we try to hide. 00:23:55.53\00:23:57.33 We try to hide her, try to hide our problems from, 00:23:57.33\00:24:01.60 from, from people and, 00:24:01.60\00:24:03.00 and you know, says, "Confess your sins one to another." 00:24:03.00\00:24:06.31 And there's power in that. 00:24:06.31\00:24:07.78 That doesn't mean that people are going to forgive you, 00:24:07.78\00:24:08.81 only God can forgive sins. 00:24:08.81\00:24:10.88 But when you confess, trust with, you know, 00:24:10.88\00:24:14.05 confessors some power in that. 00:24:14.05\00:24:15.45 Because people can pray for you, the righteous prayer. 00:24:15.45\00:24:17.49 I mean the prayer of a righteous man avail it much. 00:24:17.49\00:24:20.49 And, so keep praying for me, Jim. 00:24:20.49\00:24:23.32 God's not done with me yet. (laughs) 00:24:23.32\00:24:25.03 - With any of us. 00:24:25.03\00:24:26.93 - I think though, when you are forced 00:24:26.93\00:24:29.53 and you finally recognize just how weak you are 00:24:29.53\00:24:33.23 and it makes you much more empathetic to people. 00:24:33.23\00:24:37.54 Whether they have the same problem you do 00:24:37.54\00:24:39.61 or something different, 00:24:39.61\00:24:40.98 because it is literally there, 00:24:40.98\00:24:43.28 but for the grace of God. 00:24:43.28\00:24:44.65 You know, I've, I've been down to, 00:24:44.65\00:24:47.12 maybe it was a different problem 00:24:47.12\00:24:49.25 but we all have those issues. 00:24:49.25\00:24:51.35 And I found that being more honest about them 00:24:51.35\00:24:54.66 rather than pretending. 00:24:54.66\00:24:55.76 - Yeah. 00:24:55.76\00:24:56.89 - You know, Oh, I, I'm fairly perfect. 00:24:56.89\00:24:59.83 (group laughs) Well, first of all, 00:24:59.83\00:25:00.86 my family wouldn't believe it. 00:25:00.86\00:25:02.33 But you find that other people then have the courage to come 00:25:02.33\00:25:07.04 and say, "You know, I've struggled with that same thing." 00:25:07.04\00:25:10.51 People who would never have opened up 00:25:10.51\00:25:12.71 would never have found, 00:25:12.71\00:25:14.64 you know, the strength in numbers, 00:25:14.64\00:25:16.24 the Christian fellowship when you're not being honest. 00:25:16.24\00:25:20.52 But when you recognize, "Oh, I'm not the only one that, 00:25:20.52\00:25:25.05 "that has this hidden, this secret, you know, 00:25:25.05\00:25:28.02 "somebody else has overcome." 00:25:28.02\00:25:29.52 It gives you courage. 00:25:29.52\00:25:31.26 - Which brings me to a point. 00:25:31.26\00:25:32.43 We probably only got a minute or two left 00:25:32.43\00:25:34.03 but what would you tell viewers? 00:25:34.03\00:25:36.06 A lot of the same things are going through their minds. 00:25:36.06\00:25:38.40 They might be in that whole position right now. 00:25:38.40\00:25:40.44 What would you tell them? 00:25:40.44\00:25:41.90 - Go on a mission trip. 00:25:43.27\00:25:44.41 (Janice laughs) 00:25:44.41\00:25:46.68 You know, it really boils down to being honest with yourself 00:25:46.68\00:25:50.38 and with other people. 00:25:50.38\00:25:51.68 It's a slavery to live two lives, It's a lie. 00:25:52.65\00:25:56.79 And you're not going to be happy 00:25:56.79\00:25:58.39 and you're not going to be fully effective 00:25:58.39\00:25:59.75 or fully used by the Holy spirit 00:25:59.75\00:26:01.82 until you can have that victory of that cherished sin. 00:26:01.82\00:26:07.03 We all sin, but there's still cherished ones. 00:26:07.96\00:26:10.40 Those loved ones, those, 00:26:10.40\00:26:11.67 those ones that you just don't want to let go of. 00:26:11.67\00:26:13.37 And this was one of 'em. 00:26:13.37\00:26:14.57 This is not something that I did every day 00:26:14.57\00:26:15.97 but it was that one I really liked, just a game. 00:26:15.97\00:26:18.44 You know as, you know, I, I'm going to win some money. 00:26:18.44\00:26:21.58 The excitement you look around, you know, 00:26:21.58\00:26:23.85 flashing and dress up, devil's playground. 00:26:23.85\00:26:28.48 And, and so for those 00:26:29.95\00:26:32.05 that perhaps might be having this struggle, 00:26:32.05\00:26:36.59 if you really want, you know my... 00:26:36.59\00:26:40.06 Jesus says, "My sheep hear my voice and they know my voice." 00:26:40.06\00:26:43.06 And Jesus, I could recognize his voice, calling me and, 00:26:43.06\00:26:47.67 and he wants, he promises the abundant life. 00:26:48.70\00:26:53.04 And that certainly wasn't it, Jim. 00:26:53.04\00:26:55.61 The abundant life is, is, is, is, is a life with Jesus 00:26:55.61\00:26:59.71 and that's... 00:26:59.71\00:27:00.72 And I can't wait to see what he's got planned 00:27:00.72\00:27:04.29 - Amen. - for us 00:27:04.29\00:27:05.32 - Amen. - and a new heaven 00:27:05.32\00:27:06.19 and a new earth. 00:27:06.19\00:27:07.32 - Randell, I want to thank you brother 00:27:07.32\00:27:08.32 for a wonderful testimony. 00:27:08.32\00:27:10.06 And folks, I want to talk to you just for a second here. 00:27:10.06\00:27:13.13 You heard what God has done in this young man's life. 00:27:14.23\00:27:17.73 Changed his life, changed his family. 00:27:17.73\00:27:19.53 Changed the direction of eternity for him. 00:27:19.53\00:27:22.17 Because as he said, he didn't have eternity at the moment 00:27:22.17\00:27:25.54 because the sin was dragging him 00:27:25.54\00:27:27.04 and eating at him down and down and down. 00:27:27.04\00:27:29.01 So please give your life to Jesus Christ. 00:27:29.01\00:27:32.15 Celebrate victory in Jesus Christ. 00:27:32.15\00:27:34.38 It's yours for the asking and for the taking. 00:27:34.38\00:27:37.09 (acoustic music) 00:27:38.22\00:27:39.85 - I used to be a drug dealer and alcoholic and a thief, 00:27:39.85\00:27:42.32 along with far too many other things to mention. 00:27:42.32\00:27:45.63 You know I kidded myself that, I was great. 00:27:45.63\00:27:48.03 Life was great. 00:27:48.03\00:27:49.26 But, knowing there was a massive void in my life. 00:27:49.26\00:27:52.57 I'd like to offer you a pamphlet called breaking addictions. 00:27:52.57\00:27:56.10 You know addictions come in all types, shapes and sizes, 00:27:56.10\00:27:58.94 but you don't need to be chained to them any longer. 00:27:58.94\00:28:02.28 Go to talkingdonkeyinternational.org 00:28:02.28\00:28:04.58 and order your free copy today. 00:28:04.58\00:28:06.78 Request, offer one-on-one, Breaking Addictions. 00:28:06.78\00:28:10.45 Remember, it's completely free. 00:28:10.45\00:28:12.29 (instrumental music) 00:28:13.69\00:28:16.26 Hey, thanks for joining us for Country Wisdom. 00:28:16.26\00:28:18.86 - See you next time. 00:28:18.86\00:28:20.20