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Stay right there.
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Hey, welcome everybody to
Talking Donkey International.
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In our new television
series, Country Wisdom.
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- Let's set the tone
for this new series of ours.
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It's found in Proverbs 4.
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let your eyes
look directly forward
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and your gaze be
straight before you.
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Ponder the path of your feet.
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And then all your
ways will be sure.
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- Join us now
for Country Wisdom.
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- I am so glad that you knew
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how to get up to
this little Lake, Jim.
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It is gorgeous up here.
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- Ain't it spectacular.
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- You know, on the way over here
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I was hearing things
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that you just. - Really?
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Just kidding - I was hearing
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sounds of nature.
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What can you hear
when you stop and listen?
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- There are some birds.
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- There are.
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I heard mallards,
which are kind of everywhere.
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They're not that exciting
cause they're too common.
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But I also heard and
saw spotted sandpipers.
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And then of in the
trees here steller's jay
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which are just beautiful.
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And if you
listen really closely,
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way off,
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I could hear
red-breasted nuthatch.
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They're so cute,
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they're like these
little honky (Janice honking)
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which bores you - No.
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- but I love birds.
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- When you just
said honk honk honk.
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That's one thing I can't hear.
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There's no honking.
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There's no sirens.
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There's no clang, clang, clang.
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There's no, you
know, all that hustle
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and bustle that crazy
going on all the time.
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It is just peaceful.
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- Did you find
yourself relaxing?
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- Oh yeah.
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You can't help it - As I got out
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of the car at the trail head
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and you just breathe.
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I mean, I breathe
all the time obviously,
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but I breathed.
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- Yeah, no, you know,
when you're in the city
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when you're in all that
stuff, you just find yourself
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your whole mind,
everything is going continually
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your muscles
tight, everything's tight.
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Your brain is tight and
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and you get up
here - and you know
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- and you're just like
yeah - I get so used to it.
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I'm not even aware
of how tense my neck is.
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How on the go, I am pulling in
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and out of parking lots
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cause I got a
long list of errands.
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And it's just
so normal, you know
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to be at that level of stress
and nervous energy, I guess.
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- But you know, you did stop,
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like you're saying you listen
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and hearing
nothing other than nature.
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- There's a little Creek.
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In fact, I think
there's more than one.
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We passed one and
there's another one over here.
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- It's amazingly soothing.
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You know, now you're a birder.
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There's no doubt.
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When you start whipping
off the numbers of birds.
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In a good day, how many
birds can you find and identify?
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- Well, you know,
just a few days ago,
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my husband and I went out
on what we call a big day.
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And it's where you
start in the morning
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and you go to
different habitats.
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So you've got high deserty areas
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around where we live
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but you can easily
get up into mountains
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and areas that
are called riparian,
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it means it's along water
and you hit different areas.
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And we got 108 species.
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- 108.
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- Yes.
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And we weren't
even doing hard birding.
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We've done days
where we started,
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in fact, we were in place
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at the first spot we
wanted to bird before light.
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- I call that a
fanatical, that's.
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- That's Steve that's, you know
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I'd rather sleep in, which
was the compromise we made.
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I said do we have
to be there at dawn?
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- A normal person, by
just coming out and relaxing,
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How many birds in one area
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could you identify
without killing yourself
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and going around a lot?
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- Let me tell you,
we got into birding
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when our younger son
was in the fourth grade
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and his teacher was
teaching a segment on birds.
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And he had this
contest where the kid
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who could identify, learn
and identify the most birds
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by the end of that quarter,
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would get a set
of walkie-talkies.
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And Lauren decided
those walkie-talkies
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were going to be his.
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So I went to Walmart
and picked up a bird book
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and a pair of cheap binoculars
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and said, well okay, you know
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we'll go out and we'll help you.
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So after church, like
just a couple of days later
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I remembered that our
pastor enjoyed birding.
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And so Lauren went up and said,
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"Could we go for
out this afternoon?
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Would you take us
and show us some birds?"
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And Paul said,"
Well, sure, I'd love to."
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And I said, well, how
many do you think we can get?
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Like just around town,
you know, and close by?
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And he goes, "Well, we
should easily get 25 or 30."
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You know, I didn't know
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that there were 25 or 30
different species at that point.
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I knew robins.
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I knew a scrub jay,
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although I called them blue jays
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which turned out
not to be quite accurate
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they're scrub jays.
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We came home with about 30 birds
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in just maybe four
hours of being around town.
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And I was shocked because
I had never paid attention.
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I'm always
driving to my next errand.
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So busy I wasn't
listening to what's out there.
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- Speaking of
listening, do you hear that now?
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- Another bird?
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- No, listen.
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It's the wind.
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- Oh! Yeah,
through the pine trees.
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I love that sound.
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- And we're up in nature,
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what does wind
represent in the Bible?
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- The Holy Spirit.
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- The Holy Spirit.
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And when your in nature,
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the word says,
"Come apart a while."
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Why?
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So that we can calm down,
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we can drain all that garbage
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out of our hearts,
our minds and everything.
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So we can begin listening
to that still small ones.
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- And you know, when
you're around your daily life
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if you live,
especially in an urban area,
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but even at home, if the
television is always going
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if you always have something
running in the background
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if you're always in
headphones, listening to music
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you can't hear that voice.
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- Very true.
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Very true.
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Now, speaking of coming apart,
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let's get in the boat and
let's go out and check out,
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I wanna see some
of the Lily pads.
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- All right.
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I saw a few out
there that were in bloom.
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- You know, it's kinda
nice that we have this end
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of the Lake to ourselves.
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But you know, it's also nice
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that a couple of families
have come in over there,
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bringing their kids up
here to have a day at the Lake.
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- Yeah.
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You know, it really is.
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The thing is Christ said,
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" Come apart a
while to a desert place."
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- But dessert
can just mean empty.
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It doesn't have to
mean hot and Sandy.
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- Exactly.
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What it meant
really especially is,
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the disciples had just
been through a grueling time,
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a good time.
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Jesus had sent them out
to do battle with demons
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to heal the sick,
to raise the dead,
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to do a huge number of things.
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Their week had been so grueling
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because basically
he'd sent them out
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to cast out
demons, heal the sick
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raise the dead.
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I mean a
tremendous amount of things.
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They'd been watching
Jesus do all these things,
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but they hadn't
been involved themselves.
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And so now all of a
sudden was there opportunity
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and it had been a, you
know, they'd had some trials
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and problems and
just dealing with life
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and the cities and
everything like this.
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So Jesus said,
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come apart - I thought
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my week was hectic.
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But I haven't thought
about what their time was like
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- You know of course,
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I can't help to but
bring the Bible right?
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And I was looking
at some of these things
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and he says, "Come
with me by yourselves
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to a desert
place, to rest a while."
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To rest, you know.
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To take just a little rest
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but now they've
to been other places,
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and I'm sure they'd rested,
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but you know it wasn't going
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to the pleasant
watering hole of the day.
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There wasn't going to
some city place or location.
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But it was a real quiet,
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Like you said, an area of
solitude, OF just relaxing.
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And the thing we can't miss
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Jesus said,
"Come apart with me."
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We can come apart.
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You know, we can, we
can do all kinds of stuff
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but unless you
take Jesus with you,
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it doesn't matter a lot.
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- You won't really
have complete rest.
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It's that peace.
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You know, the Bible says, "Peace
that passes understanding."
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And I'm sure there are a lot
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of people who come out in
nature and feel a sense of peace
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but peace with a
capital P is what God gives you.
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And I think you can find
it much more easily out here.
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- I know for myself, you know
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I was totally
involved in so many things.
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God had brought me
out of being an alcoholic
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a drug dealer and a
thief and all kinds of things.
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Then I became a Christian
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and I found success in business.
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And boy, was I successful.
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I mean, I was rolling in money.
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I was lobbying on
Capitol Hill, in Washington
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rubbing
shoulders with the senators
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and congressmen and
doing all this stuff.
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But I really started realizing
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I'd lost that peace with Jesus.
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I worked, I worked, I worked.
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I was in real estate.
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I was in the top
4% of Coldwell Bankers
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in all the United States.
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- Wow!
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- And I found that,
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hey, I could be
writing a contract at midnight.
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You know, I'd do
all these things.
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And the problem is
that doesn't get you
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that time with Christ.
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It doesn't get you
that relaxation with Christ.
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- No, it doesn't.
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And we can fill
our lives with so much,
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you know just like you said,
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sometimes it seems
like for every item
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on my list that I cross off,
I've added two or three more.
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The list never gets shorter.
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Unless I make time.
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Schedule time where
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I'm going to spend
an hour with my "Bible"
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and you might think I can't
take an hour out of my day.
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There's so much to do.
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And there are way too
many days that I do that.
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But I think especially,
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that's why it's so
good to come out here.
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A place like this.
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Because you can't be
doing those other things.
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You don't have to think about
business or your to do list.
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Have I ever told you
about the book I read recently?
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"The Three Day Effect"?
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- No, I think you'd
briefly mentioned it.
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- This is what
I'm talking about.
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A woman named Florence Williams.
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She writes,
she's a science writer.
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And she knew from, I
guess, anecdotal evidence
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river raft guides, backpackers,
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who all talked about the
effect of being out in nature.
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And they all
mentioned this third day magic.
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Some of them called it
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and where you just really,
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have finally gotten
into a different rhythm
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and let go of everything
that was tying you down at home.
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But she wanted to know, is
there really something to it?
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So she got some scientists.
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And they developed
some portable equipment.
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She went out with
two different groups.
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One is a group that works
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with women who
have been traumatized,
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whether through addiction,
domestic violence, trafficking
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and they take these
women out into nature.
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And then another
group was run by veterans
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and they take these guys out,
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who are all suffering from PTSD
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and they take
them out rock climbing
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and hiking and cause guys
like that a little bit more.
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I think the women in their
group get pampered a little bit.
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- You'd like that part, right?
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- Oh, you bet,
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You bet I'd be at the spa.
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But they talked
about that same thing.
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They said the first day,
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everybody's
actually still a little tense
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because this is new territory.
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They're doing something
out of their comfort zone.
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They're not sure,
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should I have come?
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Some of them had to get talked
into going on these trips.
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But the second day
they begin to relax.
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And they said the third day,
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they're finally
talking to each other,
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making new
connections with people.
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Talking about things
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that they never would
have talked about at home.
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So what she did
with these scientists,
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they actually had
these caps, EEG caps.
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Portable stuff, they
had in a tent a whole lab
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where they could analyze.
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They were doing blood pressure.
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They were measuring heart rates.
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They were watching
brainwave patterns.
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and seeing if the three
day effect was real or not.
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And they found
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- You got a little bug
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on your neck. - I could feel it
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- There you go. You're
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so lucky that I'm not leaping
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out of this canoe and
tipping the whole thing over.
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- I knew how bad it was.
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And I said,
well, shall I tell you,
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and I though no.
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You did good.
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- It's the one thing
in nature I do not like
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- Bugs, huh?
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- Bugs.
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But she found
that there really is
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a three-day effect.
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That--
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- A three day effect.
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- heart, on the third day,
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you can measure the
difference in heart rates,
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in blood pressure, in brainwave.
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Now she was talking
about scientific things,
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you know, alpha
waves and theta waves.
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And you know, that was
literally over my head,
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not just in my head,
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but the point was
about the third day
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they began having
brainwave patterns that were,
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I think it was
more theta than alpha
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but don't hold me to that.
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But their brains were in a
spot where they were no longer
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that focusing
anxious kind of thoughts
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the to-do list kind of thoughts.
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It was where they say
your mind is wandering.
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You've relaxed enough
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that you've begun to
literally start thinking
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about other things.
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- You're not attached
to that next to do list.
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- Right.
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- You let go of
them. - And of course
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creativity happens when
your brain is in those waves
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because that was
another thing they had noticed
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is that, people who
took at least three days
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out in nature,
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came back, not just
physically refreshed
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but mentally refreshed
and felt much more creative.
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Another thing they did,
they gave them tests before
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and after.
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They did word puzzles,
they did number puzzles.
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Things like giving
you a string of words,
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anywhere five to seven words
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and then telling
you now remember those.
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And then a couple of
minutes later coming back
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and saying now what
were those words I gave you?
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And seeing if you
could remember the pattern.
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They did things like,
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count backwards for one minute
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from start at thousand
and count backwards by sevens.
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And they would see
how far someone could get
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in the space of a minute.
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- Ooh, wow!
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- And some of them
didn't do well at all.
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Like could maybe
get down three numbers
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three groups of seven
down in the space of a minute.
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Then at the end they
did the same type of test,
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not identical.
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So it's not like you,
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Oh yeah, I did that
same string of words before,
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or that same number pattern.
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They would do it by a
different number pattern.
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And in fact, three days later
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when they were
doing the new tests
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they made them
just slightly harder.
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And yet people were scoring
two and three times better.
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- Really?
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- Yes.
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Their memory was better.
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They could focus better.
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So they were able to
actually prove scientifically
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that nature has
a healing effect.
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- Wow!
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- Not only that they
said about the third day,
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you know I
mentioned those veterans
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who began finally
opening up and talking,
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because they were saying
nature is the best therapy.
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One of the guides said,
"A week in the wilderness
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is worth a year of therapy."
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And they proved
that was really true
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because around it
campfire at night.
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The third night these
guys started talking about,
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I came back from
my second tour in Iraq
00:19:09.84\00:19:13.35
and my wife said, I
wasn't the same guy.
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And she left.
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I lost my job.
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I was drinking too much.
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I didn't want
to leave the house.
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Things like that.
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And here they were
admitting that to each other
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and supporting each other.
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And they carried it
over even when they went home
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because some of
those guys stayed in touch.
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She followed up with
them six months later.
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And some of those
guys said, like one of them
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he said his wife
had, she rode rodeo.
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And in fact, when he had
first joined the military
00:19:45.51\00:19:48.52
she bought a horse
to have something to do
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because she knew she
was going to miss him.
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She knew it was going
to be a hard adjustment.
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She bought herself a
horse and began doing rodeos.
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When he came back, he
would barely leave the house.
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When he got back from that
trip with the veterans group
00:20:04.53\00:20:08.27
he said, "You know, I
was outside my comfort zone
00:20:08.27\00:20:12.11
but if I can do that, I
can go with her sometimes.
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You know, that's her
thing, but I can support her."
00:20:16.91\00:20:19.85
So he began going with her,
00:20:19.85\00:20:21.95
even though he didn't
really want to be around people.
00:20:21.95\00:20:25.19
And he didn't really
want to go someplace new
00:20:25.19\00:20:27.56
but he began doing it
00:20:27.56\00:20:28.79
because that trip
out backpacking helped.
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There was a psychologist,
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a social
psychologist that she quoted
00:20:35.73\00:20:38.23
because the
scientist, Florence Williams
00:20:39.40\00:20:42.90
the science writer,
00:20:42.90\00:20:44.17
she said, "What do you do
00:20:44.17\00:20:46.21
If you have
family, you have a job.
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You don't live
anywhere near real wilderness.
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How do you carry that over?"
00:20:51.55\00:20:53.21
The social psychologist who
had also been studying nature
00:20:54.68\00:20:58.55
and its effect on
people's emotions.
00:20:58.55\00:21:01.22
She said, "You
can find it anywhere."
00:21:01.22\00:21:03.36
She said she
tells people to go out
00:21:04.56\00:21:07.86
and look for moments of awe,
00:21:07.86\00:21:10.10
whether that is
just seeing a flower box
00:21:12.10\00:21:15.07
on the sidewalk, as you're
walking to work and noticing it
00:21:15.07\00:21:20.14
or finding a park
and going for a walk,
00:21:21.21\00:21:23.81
taking your dog
for a walk every day.
00:21:23.81\00:21:26.31
And instead of
just marching along
00:21:26.31\00:21:27.68
thinking about what you
have to get done tomorrow.
00:21:27.68\00:21:30.52
Notice your surroundings.
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Notice the sunset.
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Those are moments of awe.
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- I've written in
my Bible this thought,
00:21:36.19\00:21:37.96
either you come
apart and rest awhile
00:21:37.96\00:21:40.83
or you'll come apart.
00:21:40.83\00:21:42.16
- Yes.
00:21:43.06\00:21:44.33
- I mean that,
that's what you're saying.
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That's what really happens.
00:21:45.47\00:21:47.04
You need to come and
spend that time with God.
00:21:47.04\00:21:49.87
Spend that time out
in nature, which you know
00:21:49.87\00:21:51.81
we've talked about before.
00:21:51.81\00:21:52.81
It's kind of God's second book.
00:21:52.81\00:21:55.28
Matter of fact, I
had a Matthew 11:29
00:21:55.28\00:21:57.18
it says, "Learn in me
00:21:57.18\00:21:58.78
I am gentle and lowly in heart
00:21:58.78\00:22:00.28
and you will find
rest into your souls."
00:22:00.28\00:22:03.35
Rest into your souls.
00:22:03.35\00:22:04.42
I mean, that's
amazing, you know,
00:22:04.42\00:22:05.62
that we can find rest in God.
00:22:05.62\00:22:09.49
- And into our inner
being, our core and just relax
00:22:09.49\00:22:14.56
because God's got it.
00:22:15.20\00:22:16.60
- Now, one of the things, you
know, as you get out in nature
00:22:16.60\00:22:19.90
what I've seen is
it helps you rest too.
00:22:19.90\00:22:23.77
Physically helps you get sleep.
00:22:23.77\00:22:26.24
Today I think
there are more people--
00:22:26.24\00:22:28.01
- Yes, they found that
they all began sleeping better.
00:22:28.01\00:22:30.45
- There are more people
that are taking sleeping pills
00:22:30.45\00:22:33.28
and everything else,
00:22:33.28\00:22:34.42
just trying to get
a little bit of sleep
00:22:34.42\00:22:36.75
and that doesn't really work.
00:22:36.75\00:22:38.45
But if you
start really sleeping,
00:22:38.45\00:22:40.62
I mean there's
tremendous amount of studies
00:22:40.62\00:22:42.92
to show what sleep really does.
00:22:42.92\00:22:44.59
You end up with
a sleep deprivation
00:22:46.39\00:22:49.06
and it hurts your diet.
00:22:49.06\00:22:50.87
It hurts your attitude.
00:22:50.87\00:22:53.00
It hurts everything in life.
00:22:53.00\00:22:54.50
Your whole health system
goes down the flusher as well.
00:22:54.50\00:22:57.37
- Well, I think you know
of our younger son Lauren,
00:22:57.37\00:23:01.01
he does sleep studies.
00:23:01.01\00:23:03.21
He works at a
hospital and that's his job.
00:23:03.21\00:23:05.71
And he said, if people
understood the effect that sleep
00:23:05.71\00:23:10.79
has or the lack of it.
00:23:11.45\00:23:12.12
- The lack of it, yeah.
00:23:12.12\00:23:13.19
- On them
physically and emotionally,
00:23:13.19\00:23:14.72
he said, they've
taken much more seriously.
00:23:14.72\00:23:16.99
- Well, one of the
things that people find,
00:23:16.99\00:23:19.23
people have such
trouble with weight gain.
00:23:19.23\00:23:21.83
If they got better sleep,
the weight gain would go down.
00:23:21.83\00:23:25.20
And here's another
interesting thing too
00:23:25.20\00:23:26.80
is basically if you
quit eating late at night
00:23:26.80\00:23:31.54
if you have that last
meal of the day four hours
00:23:31.54\00:23:34.01
before you go to sleep, you
will be able to sleep better.
00:23:34.01\00:23:36.71
And guess what?
00:23:36.71\00:23:37.78
That last meal
doesn't go to fat.
00:23:37.78\00:23:39.48
And it goes to more energy,
00:23:39.48\00:23:41.02
which is a
tremendous benefit as well.
00:23:41.02\00:23:43.85
- Well, it's also related
mental, physical spiritual.
00:23:43.85\00:23:47.42
There was something
that really struck me
00:23:48.69\00:23:50.76
in the "Three Day Effect"
00:23:50.76\00:23:52.09
the book.
00:23:52.09\00:23:52.99
In the section
talking about what you can do
00:23:54.30\00:23:57.33
no matter where you live,
this social psychologist said
00:23:57.33\00:24:01.57
"I can't always
get away for a week."
00:24:01.57\00:24:03.74
You know, how many
people can afford to do that,
00:24:03.74\00:24:06.74
to take a week off
whenever they need it.
00:24:06.74\00:24:09.81
She said her goal,
she had started taking
00:24:09.81\00:24:13.21
just setting aside a
24 hour period every week.
00:24:13.21\00:24:17.09
I thought, well,
that's not an original idea,
00:24:18.19\00:24:21.29
because I think in the Bible
00:24:21.29\00:24:24.03
God had that idea first.
00:24:24.03\00:24:26.53
- Yeah.
00:24:26.53\00:24:27.60
Matter of fact, I
was thinking about that.
00:24:27.60\00:24:29.00
Let me read you a text.
00:24:29.00\00:24:30.37
" Thus, the heavens and
the earth were completed.
00:24:30.37\00:24:33.44
And by the seventh day
00:24:33.44\00:24:34.54
God had finished the
work he'd been doing.
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And on that day, he
rested from all of his work."
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God rested on that day.
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And then, then his Eden
couple joined in with him
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and in sharing that
beautiful day of rest,
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then later on the apostle, Paul
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makes some interesting statement
in the book of Hebrews.
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You know he said,
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he weaves together
kind of three concepts.
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The concept of we
have a rest from enemies,
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we have a physical rest and
we have a rest in Jesus Christ.
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And then you think about Christ
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talked about many
things, especially in Isaiah.
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Now he talks about in Isaiah 66,
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he said, look,
here's the situation.
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When we're in heaven,
we will have a special day
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every seventh
day to come together
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with God and from one new
moon to another, every 30 days.
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So 30 days and
seven days, one Sabbath
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and we'll all come
together to worship God
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and to join together with him.
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And isn't it interesting
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that through all
of this God has a plan
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a total plan to come
apart a while to rest in him
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to spend time with him.
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You know, especially once a week
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and scientists talk about
there's a circadian rhythm
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you know, in
nature a seven day cycle.
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Isn't it
interesting when we follow God
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when we learn of him and the
things he has prepared for us.
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- That was great.
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I loved being out
there on that Lake.
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