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- Oh, yes. Stay right there, no.
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Stay right there,
I'll be right back.
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Hey, welcome everybody to A
Talking Donkey International
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and our new television
series, "Country Wisdom."
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- Let's set the tone
for this new series of ours.
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It's found in Proverbs 4,
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"Let your eyes
look directly forward
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and your gaze be
straight before you.
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Ponder the path of your feet
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and then all your
ways will be sure."
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- Join us now
for "Country Wisdom."
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(gentle acoustic guitar music)
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Well, lots is going to happen
today. So come on, join us.
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Ain't this a
gorgeous day for a ride?
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- And Lily keeps
trying to smash my leg.
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Oh, she likes you.
She just wants to say hi.
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- I was thinking
maybe she didn't like me.
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- Nah, she likes
you. - She's like,
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"Why are you
coming along today?"
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- (indistinct) huh, baby. Yeah.
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Know what I mean,
it's so beautiful out.
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- Oh, I am thrilled to
be out here, I love it.
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You couldn't ask
for a better day.
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Hey, you grew up
in California, right?
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- [Jim] I did. - So did I.
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So how old were you when
you had your first earthquake?
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- Well, I'm not gonna
tell you exactly how old,
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but I was older
than 50 'cause I was in
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Maryland actually
when I felt my first one
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in a big high-rise building.
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- You grew up in California
and didn't have an earthquake
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till you went to the East Coast?
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- That's right, that's
right. I lived in the far north.
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No earthquakes,
just a big volcano.
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- I think I was in third
grade, first one I remember.
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And I remember it
because I was in school
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and I turned around
because I thought the boy
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in back of me that I
wasn't very fond of anyway,
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I thought he was sticking his-
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- [Jim] Yellowjacket.
- Sorry. Sorry, Jetta.
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- Janice, look, he
won't eat too much.
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- Why does he like
me? Go over to Jim.
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That boy used to bug me
the way that yellowjacket was.
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So when I felt my
desk starting to move,
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because I did, I was
studying and all of a sudden,
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I realized you
had this sensation,
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where I was
moving and, thank you.
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- Relax, don't
swat him too hard,
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just move moving
him away a little.
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Keep talking, it'll be fine.
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- And I turned
around to tell him
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to quit shoving my
desk with his feet.
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And then I realized, no!
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All the kids had
suddenly looked up
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because all the
desks were moving.
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And that was the first
earthquake I can actually
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remember and realizing
what that was. - Really?
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- But you know, there
were many others after
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that to varying
degrees. (gentle guitar music)
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Because I grew up in California.
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I assumed you
had the same stories.
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- No, I never had to
worry about what kind
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of foundation my house was
on, but I think about that.
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You talk about
earthquakes and foundations
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and Janine and
I, many years ago,
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we're in Italy and we find
a really interesting place.
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Tower of Pisa, right?
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- [Janice]
Leaning tower of Pisa.
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- [Jim] Leaning, it
wasn't always leaning.
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They started
construction I think in 1173.
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- [Janice] Did you see it
back before it started to lean?
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- Oh, you are so dirty. No.
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I don't even know that I
wanna ride with you anymore.
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Well, then five
years later, it began,
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it was leaning before
they finished construction.
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Before they
finished construction...
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Oh, there's some grass, look.
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You'll love the grass, go ahead.
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- Oh, didn't you give Lily
enough breakfast this morning?
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- Lily, there's some grass.
Now you don't wanna eat grass?
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You don't wanna
eat grass now, okay.
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But anyway, here they
are before it's finished,
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it's leaning, and
since then, I think in 1990,
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they closed it to
tourists no longer.
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So, that tells you we
were there before 1990.
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There you go,
now you found a spot.
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- As far as I know
though, it's still leaning.
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- Oh, yeah, it is. They
brought in a big engineer
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who actually
apparently didn't know his job.
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They spent a
whole bunch of money,
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and I think $30 million U.S.
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And they kind of
corrected it a little bit,
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but, it just goes to show you,
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you've gotta have
a good foundation.
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- My husband,
Steve, is really interested
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in issues of creation
science versus evolution.
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He is a
scientist, he's a surgeon
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and was a Chemistry
major and it fascinates him.
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And he's got a whole library
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of books on
different topics like that.
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And he is always, in
fact, he gave a great sermon
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on Christians who think
they can combine the two,
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who think they
can have it both ways.
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But he says, if you
have based your faith,
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if your
foundation is on evolution,
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whether you're thinking
pure Darwinian evolution
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or whether you're
thinking what people call
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Theistic evolution, you
want to have God involved.
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So He started it, but He
started it in this method,
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as evolution as his tool.
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But Steve
said... Come on, Jetta.
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Steve said, "You have to
consider, with that foundation.
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Then you have a completely
random, directionless nature
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that is supposedly natural
selection, but completely
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random. So it's an accident
that we turned into humans
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and there's no real
purpose to our life.
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It's a freak of nature.
It's completely accidental."
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- [Jim] No, you don't get
to choose where you're going.
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- And if that is true,
where did morals come from?
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- Exactly.
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- There are people
today who think that,
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well, society
creates morals. So basically,
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it's whatever society today
has decided is right or wrong.
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And as you know, that changes.
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It doesn't even take a
generation to have that change.
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Things that when I was
a young mother that were,
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"This is what good mothers,
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how a good mother
raises their children."
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And nowadays it's
like, "Oh, you do that
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and CPS will be on your door."
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- If it wasn't for
the creation story,
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why would
anybody not want to kill?
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If I like what you guys possess,
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just go in and
kill you and take it.
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- Because if it is
purely Darwinian evolution,
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then whatever I can do
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to further my
chances of success is fine.
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I'm doing what
nature designed me to do.
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- And nobody has any
argument against that.
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- No. - There is
no real argument.
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Either it's- - Any
more than a nature.
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We have coyotes
around here all the time.
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And I know, I have
friends who have chickens
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and one day you
don't have as many chickens
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as you had the
day before or sheep.
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We were just talking
with your friend, Randy.
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And he started with 30
sheep and is down to four
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and is thrilled that
one of those had twins.
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It's just like right now,
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we can either go
this way in the road
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or this way in the road.
We've only got two choices.
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And that's really what it is
for everything that's going on.
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We either believe in creation
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or we believe in something else.
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- My opinion and I think
it's based on good evidence
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as well as faith in God is that
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God, as a
foundation never moves.
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You are never going to
suddenly find yourself,
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like I did sitting in
that desk in third grade,
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where the ground underneath
me is literally moving.
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But if your foundation is based
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on whatever the
society you are living
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in today says is good or bad,
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that's gonna change tomorrow.
Your foundation just moved.
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And that's not a
very secure feeling.
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- Yeah, as for me and my house,
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like I said, "I'm
gonna choose the Lord.
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I'm gonna choose his
direction and his foundation."
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- I think Lily's
choosing our direction.
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acoustic music continues)
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- While we're on the
horses, I get a cool idea
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for a visual of
really what it's about
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for the walk of
your Christian life.
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- All right. -
Include some equipment.
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Do you mind carrying a bag?
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- It depends on
how much it weighs.
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- 40 pounds under.
Gotta bring my Bible too.
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- My backpacking days
are in the rear view mirror.
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- Just kidding.
It aint that heavy.
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Mine or if you'd like to
take one of the heavy ones?
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- No, I am definitely
taking the low road here.
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Hang on, the
backpack isn't cooperating.
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- You got it okay? -
Twisted. That's typical.
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All right, were
good. - All right.
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acoustic music continues)
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Okay. So, the
first thing of course,
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you gotta get the Bible.
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Can't do anything
without the Bible. Right?
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And then, after I get this out.
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- Oh, I like the
color. (gentle acoustic music)
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- You do, huh? - Yes.
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- Let's see here.
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There are so many parts
and so many things in climbing.
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- I don't do red, but
I like the other colors.
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Oh, Jim, Jim. Look!
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- Oh, look at that
tiny cool little lizard.
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- He wants to join you.
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- Oh, okay. Yeah. Next
some more ropes we can worry
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about that later. But I thought,
when we're on horseback,
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I was thinking about some of
this, like I said, at the truck
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and it just seemed like there's
so many similarities in life
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about rock
climbing, and preparation
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and the equipment
and everything else.
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What I wanted to read to you,
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something in my Bible
is Matthew 7:24-27 says,
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"Therefore, whoever
hears these sayings of mine
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and does them." So God's looking
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for an active
situation in the Christian life.
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I mean, we can talk
about the things we talked
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about in
horseback. And as you know,
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we can talk about
foundations and everything else,
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but this is where the
rubber meets the road.
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When you're
really climbing life.
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When you're really in
there in the trenches,
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how do you do
this? - I have no idea.
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- But you've made a
lot of experience in life,
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and you can
translate those into.
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- Well, that's why
I was talking to you
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about our lives
are like a building
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and you need to know
what your foundation is.
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And I have chosen
one that doesn't move
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because if I built my
life on me as a foundation,
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it'd be all over the place.
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So I've made a
conscious decision, Christ is my
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foundation. That
book is my foundation.
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And if I find myself
deviating, it hasn't moved.
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I'm the one who's moved
and that's what you have
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to judge your whole life by.
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Have I moved off the foundation?
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Because the foundation, if
it's Christ, it's staying put.
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- I really liked
that point you made
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because all of a
sudden, I flashed on,
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there are guidebooks to
take you in certain routes.
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It shows you how
long the route is,
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where to set protection
a lot of times and so-
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- Guidebooks to climbing?
- Guidebooks to climbing.
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So, I've been climbing
in some monstrous climbs
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and you can kinda read the
guidebook to find the routes
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and everything, where to
set things to keep you safe.
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And I thought, well,
here's the eternal guide book.
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It shows the whole route, shows
you exactly what to follow,
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how to follow it and people
that don't have the guidebook?
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- Get lost. - And could die.
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And bottom line you do. I missed
following a route one time
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and I was going up the
rock and going up the rock.
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And this is called protection.
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This stuff is called protection.
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There was no place to set
it and I was going at 20, 30,
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40, 50 feet, 60 feet.
That's getting really dangerous
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and I'm getting really nervous.
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- Without- -
Without setting anything.
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It's just, if I
fall, I'd go to the bottom.
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And boy, I mean,
it gets very scary.
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- My adrenaline just went
up, just how you talk about it.
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- This is the guidebook. And so,
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let me share more
about it in the guide book.
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Jesus is saying,
"Build your house on the rock.
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So, and the rain
came and the floods came,
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the wind blew and
beat on that house.
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And it did not fall, for
it was founded on a rock."
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And that rock, of
course we know is who?
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- Oh, Jesus. I was just amazed.
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I kept waiting for
you to break into song.
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That was one of my
kids' favorite songs.
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They love to singing that
because it had hand motions.
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The wise man built
his house upon a rock
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and then they talked
about the rain came down
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and the floods came up,
but the house stood firm.
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It was actually
the second verse that-
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- I wasn't raised a Christian.
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So I didn't get to go to
all those little classes.
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¤ The wise man builds
his house upon the rock ¤
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- And they're going like this.
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¤ The wise man built
his house upon the rock ¤
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¤ The wise man built
his house upon the rock ¤
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¤ And the rains
came tumbling down. ¤
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- Oh, I can see the
kids doing that for sure.
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- Right. But his
house stands firm
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because it's built on a rock.
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But the second
verse was their favorite.
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- Well, we don't have
time for second verse today.
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"And everyone who
hears these sayings of mine,"
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the sayings of Jesus,
"And does not do them,
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shall be
compared to a foolish man
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who built his house on the sand.
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And the rain came down, the
floods came and the wind blew
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and beat on that house and
it fell and great was the fall."
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- That's the part they like
because when we got to that,
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and the house on
the sand went splat
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and they all got
to clap and go splat.
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- You look at these mighty
cliffs and you think about,
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throughout the Bible,
Jesus is compared to the rock,
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the rock of my salvation.
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In Jewish
literature and Jewish history,
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when they were building
Solomon's temple, there's the
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story that they didn't do
anything at the building site.
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In other words, no
implements were used.
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You heard no sound of chiseling.
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You heard no sound
of Emory or anything.
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So, they did it
far away at the quarry.
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But some of these
rocks were so massive,
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five, 10, 15, 20,
30 tons, maybe more.
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They'd bring them in and
they fit exactly in the place.
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They showed up
with this one rock
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and there was no place for it
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and they couldn't figure it out.
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Why did they send this rock?
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- Couldn't
figure out where it fit.
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- Didn't fit,
didn't fit anywhere.
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So, the builder said,
"Lets settle it over there."
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Basically at the rubbish pile.
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They go on for years and
they're getting toward the end
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and they need the
chief cornerstone.
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The stone that
virtually holds up everything.
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And they're looking
and they're looking.
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Well, they don't have
anything that's strong enough.
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The quarry said,
"We don't have any rock
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that's strong enough."
(gentle acoustic music)
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And as they're
wandering around, they look.
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And there's that stone
they put out there years ago.
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It's in full sun,
it's in full shade,
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it's in winter, it's in
summer, spring and fall.
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There's not a crack.
There's not a blemish on it.
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They say,
"Well, let's just see."
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They bring it over
and it fit perfectly.
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Jesus Christ is
that chief cornerstone.
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And that's what he
wants to be in our lives,
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the chief cornerstone.
(gentle acoustic music)
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- That can take
anything and support us.
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- That's right. That's right.
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And I hope somehow today,
Janice, we can convey to people
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that the
Christian walk is a journey,
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it isn't just a one off.
I'm sure in your journey,
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yours hasn't been
just one time thing.
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- Oh, I wish I could say it's
been a steady upward, but no.
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Every now and then, I
fall off the path and have to-
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- Well, what
happened? - I turned back to God
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and asked for help
getting back up on the path.
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- Get back on the
path, keep climbing, right?
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Because our journey is
keep going up and up and up.
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God's calling us to the
heavenly kingdom, right?
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What John says, "In my Father's
house are many mansions.
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If it were not so,
I would have told you
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but I go to
prepare a place for you.
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And if I go and
prepare a place for you,
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I will come again
and receive you to myself
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and where I am, there you may
be also." Phenomenal problems.
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And God just doesn't
throw us out on our own and say,
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"Okay, now get there." Does He?
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- No, because
we'd all be doomed.
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I never could have made it.
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I can barely get on
a road trip by myself,
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without a good
map or a navigator.
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- But here's the map,
right? Here's the map.
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Matter of fact, the
first two chapters of Genesis,
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tell us where we were
and how we lost our state,
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how we sold out to the devil.
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The last two chapters,
tell us where we're going to go.
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That glorious, heavenly home
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and Jesus comes
to take us with him
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and everything in
between is the guidebook.
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It's the climbing route, to
get to where he wants us to be.
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- Good point. -
It's so exciting.
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I continually, as I
look at all this rock
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and I keep thinking about is,
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Jesus led the children
of Israel in the wilderness.
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At one point, they
got to this (indistinct)
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"Lord, there is no water. We
need water." Lord tells Moses,
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"Go to this particular
place and speak to the rock."
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A couple of million people
may have took him to that rock.
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He spoke to that
rock and all of a sudden,
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water gushes out of that rock.
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What kinda
water was that really?
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- It's just such a
wonderful metaphor.
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I mean, I'm sure they
were amazed when it happened
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but you read that in
the Bible and it's like,
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when I need
something, when I'm in trouble
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and I'm not sure
how to, who to turn to,
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where to go now?
I can speak to God
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and everything I
need just flows from him.
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He's just happy
to give it to us.
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- Years and
years and years later,
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Jesus stood on the
temple steps and said,
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"If you're thirsty, come to
me. I'll give you living water."
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I mean, what a
promise, living water.
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Water to fill us, to
change us, to reinvigorate us,
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to just give us so
much more than we have now.
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- I can remember years
ago, we won't say how many,
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backpacking with Steve
cause his family was big
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into backpacking and if
I wanted to be with Steve,
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I was gonna go backpacking.
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So, I can remember
though we'd be on a hot trail.
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You can hardly
wait to get to the end
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or to come to a
river or a stream.
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And water has
never tasted so good
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as when you've
been on a trail all day.
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And all of a
sudden you feel like,
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"Oh, I can live now.
I've got energy now."
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It's like, "I have
been trudging along,
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barely speaking and
now all of a sudden,
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I'm back to being myself.
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And I think of
the woman at the well,
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when He gave her living water,
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she wasn't the same
anymore. - No, never was.
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- And the people in
her town could tell,
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which is why
they listened to her
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and came to see
where that water came from.
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- Yeah. Jesus is the
living water. It's amazing.
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I think about,
one more story then,
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I wanna show you
some of this and apply it.
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But Moses went up the
mountain to meet with God.
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God had called him up there
to meet with him in person.
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And as they're
talking, Moses said,
00:22:14.20\00:22:15.83
"Please, God show me your face."
00:22:15.83\00:22:18.07
"Moses, I can't show you my face
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because it's just so
brilliant. It's so perfect.
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Yeah. It'll just fry you because
you still have sin in there
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in your life and my glory
and your sin can't combine.
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But tell you what,
I'll put you in this cleft
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of the mighty
rock. As I walk by,
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I'll cover you with my
hand. And as I pass by,
00:22:34.85\00:22:38.02
I'll pull my hand away
and you can see my back side."
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And I think about that in
having God places in the rock,
00:22:41.19\00:22:44.46
the rock Jesus Christ.
- Because that was safe.
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- That was safe.
It is safe today.
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Why would anybody
choose all the other stuff?
00:22:50.83\00:22:53.44
When God has a perfect
place for us to hide us in Him.
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- Reminds me,
completely different metaphor.
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But when Christ was looking
over at Jerusalem and he said,
00:23:01.71\00:23:06.68
"If you would, he
would just protect us."
00:23:06.68\00:23:09.42
And there's no
reason not to be there.
00:23:10.45\00:23:13.72
- Yeah, exactly. But
maybe I've got a pile of stuff.
00:23:13.72\00:23:17.23
Actually, I like to kinda carry
it over there a little bit,
00:23:17.23\00:23:19.86
get to the rock and then
kinda show you some of this
00:23:19.86\00:23:22.30
and give you an
idea what it's like
00:23:22.30\00:23:24.30
and how the
metaphor is really applied
00:23:24.30\00:23:26.33
to that Christian
journey in climbing.
00:23:26.33\00:23:28.47
- Give me an idea
of what crazy people do
00:23:29.60\00:23:31.11
in their spare
time? - Yeah, exactly.
00:23:31.11\00:23:33.21
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00:23:54.83\00:23:57.20
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(gentle acoustic music)
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- Hey, one of the biggest
things I wanna tell you is
00:24:13.21\00:24:14.55
about the rope. I really
like in rope is the prayer line
00:24:14.55\00:24:18.45
to God. Rope is the safety line.
00:24:18.45\00:24:20.66
I mean, you've
gotta have that prayer
00:24:20.66\00:24:22.66
that everything hooked up to God
00:24:22.66\00:24:24.03
or you don't have a shot at it.
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This is called a rack and
rack holds all your protection.
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All the different
pieces that you can lock
00:24:30.43\00:24:32.20
into the rock, all
the promises of God.
00:24:32.20\00:24:34.64
The more promises you store
00:24:34.64\00:24:35.90
in your heart
and carry with you,
00:24:35.90\00:24:37.67
there's more places
you can set protections.
00:24:37.67\00:24:39.81
- Except I
couldn't climb anything,
00:24:39.81\00:24:41.54
carrying something like that.
00:24:41.54\00:24:42.64
- But I mean, we don't
have a lot of time here.
00:24:42.64\00:24:44.68
So, I just wanna kinda show
you how it works a little bit
00:24:44.68\00:24:47.22
and then keep me in
your prayers. Climbing!
00:24:47.22\00:24:51.19
(gentle
acoustic music continues)
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Now Janice, here's a good place
to set a little protection.
00:25:05.50\00:25:08.14
- Oh, good cause you
were already scaring me.
00:25:08.14\00:25:10.61
(gentle
acoustic music continues)
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- Right there.
00:25:14.31\00:25:15.18
Now at this
point, Janice, if I fall,
00:25:29.16\00:25:31.36
I'll fall down to that point,
00:25:31.36\00:25:33.33
but by God's grace I
won't hit the bottom all the way
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and that's kind of the way
it is with a Christian life.
00:25:35.33\00:25:37.90
(gentle
acoustic music continues)
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- If you fall, I'm the
one who's gonna have to go
00:25:44.04\00:25:46.04
to the hospital because
I'll have a heart attack.
00:25:46.04\00:25:48.14
(gentle
acoustic music continues)
00:25:48.14\00:25:52.38
- Now there's
somebody else previously,
00:26:04.49\00:26:07.10
one of the good
Christian brothers, (indistinct)
00:26:07.10\00:26:09.80
and so I got a
little extra protection.
00:26:09.80\00:26:12.03
Bottom line, in life, you can't
give on this journey totally
00:26:12.03\00:26:16.04
on your own. You need
friends and Christian mates.
00:26:16.04\00:26:19.64
(gentle
acoustic music continues)
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(gentle
acoustic music continues)
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So Janice, I
wish to have more time
00:27:10.33\00:27:11.86
to kinda really share
all the different things
00:27:11.86\00:27:14.46
about rock
climbing, about the Lord here.
00:27:14.46\00:27:17.23
Oh, thanks for
bringing my Bible too,
00:27:18.23\00:27:20.70
because really I wanted
to read another text here.
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It's found in
Psalms 18, verse 31.
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"For who is God besides Jehovah?
00:27:27.58\00:27:30.05
Or who is a
rock, except our God?"
00:27:30.05\00:27:32.55
- Jesus is our
rock. - Absolutely.
00:27:33.75\00:27:36.85
- And we need to
dig deep into him,
00:27:36.85\00:27:39.95
so that we've got
that solid foundation.
00:27:39.95\00:27:42.66
He's our anchor.
He's our protection,
00:27:42.66\00:27:44.93
just like you had upon there.
00:27:44.93\00:27:46.59
- Yeah. Just like earlier today,
00:27:46.59\00:27:48.80
when we're riding the
horses, two different routes.
00:27:48.80\00:27:51.43
There's only two in this world.
00:27:51.43\00:27:53.17
We have to choose one and we
both say, choose Jesus Christ.
00:27:53.17\00:27:56.74
(gentle music)
00:27:58.27\00:28:01.18
Hey, thanks for joining
us for "Country Wisdom."
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- See you next time.
00:28:03.78\00:28:05.11
(gentle music)
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