Hello, and welcome
to Coronavirus Report.
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We are so glad to
have you here with us.
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I'm in the presence
of Pastor Stephen Bohr,
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speaker, director,
president of Secrets Unsealed,
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and Dr. Milton Teske who is the
health officer for Kings County,
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and also happens to be
the chairman of our board.
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And I'm C.A. Murray.
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And we're trying to
give you a perspective
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that is particularly Christian.
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There is so much
talk about coronavirus,
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so many things
that are being said,
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but we're trying to give you
just a little something extra,
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a little something
that you may not hear
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on the regular news.
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Dr. Teske is steeped in
the knowledge in this work.
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And as a Christian physician,
he brings a very unique
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and wonderful perspective
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that we like to
mine each and every week
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when you're here with us.
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So we want to thank
you for joining us today.
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And hopefully we can say
something that will be of
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interest and import to you.
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Good doctor, I
want to start of...
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In fact, let's
have a word of prayer,
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and then we'll launch
off into our first question.
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Father God, again we
thank You and praise You
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for this
opportunity to give information
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from a Christian perspective
given from men who have
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dedicated their lives
and their hearts to You.
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Speak through us so that
what we say can be of value
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to Your people.
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In Jesus' name, amen.
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Amen.
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Each week when we
come we've got a new term,
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or new word, or something new
that you sort of spring on us.
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And this week's
new word is Kawasaki.
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Now I had heard about
this syndrome, of course,
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keeping tabs on
what happens in New York,
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but I didn't hear the name
until just a few minutes ago
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when we were talking together.
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It is Kawasaki.
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Not the
motorcycle, not the automobile.
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But Kawasaki; explain what
that is and the affect that it
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seems to be
having on young people.
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Okay, so Kawasaki disease
was first described by Kawasaki
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and gave it his name.
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But it's been around
for a while, so it's not a
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new disease, but it's
new in its association
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with the
coronavirus, with this COVID-19.
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It's a syndrome, or it's a group
of symptoms that come together,
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and it affects
children primarily,
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although it can affect adults.
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For some reason most
all the victims of Kawasaki
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are children, often
under 5 years of age
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makes up the
largest group of them.
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And it can be quite
serious and fatal in cases.
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Although, again, it's
a fairly rare syndrome.
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It has to do with the body's
immune system being triggered
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and fired up in a certain
way that it starts attacking
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the body and causing
this group of symptoms.
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And of course, some of
the severe complications
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that can go with it that
we're seeing now with this.
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Nobody understands exactly
how and why it's triggered,
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but it's associated with
different viral diseases.
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Sometimes Epstein
Barr virus infection
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can trigger Kawasaki disease.
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Sometimes an adenovirus.
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Sometimes some of the
older coronaviruses that have
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been around for a long time.
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But just recently
they've been realizing that
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they're seeing
quite a number of children
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that have this Kawasaki disease
associated with the coronavirus,
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this new COVID-19 virus.
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So here's what it is.
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It's a group of symptoms.
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There is no blood
test, no lab test, we can do
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to say you're
Kawasaki positive or negative.
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So it's not...
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It makes it difficult
to diagnose because today
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doctors want to test
for everything and want to
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just let the lab tell them you
have got it or don't have it.
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This takes clinical acumen.
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You've got to actually talk
to the patient, look at them,
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and see what their symptoms are.
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Now actually it's
quite recognizable.
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And hopefully if you
have children, if one of them
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should start to be affected with
this, you would recognize it
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and direct them to appropriate
medical care right away.
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It is a disease
where its treatment
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does make a difference.
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There is some treatment for it.
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And treatment can significantly
lessen the serious outcomes
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to do with the
heart and even fatalities.
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You'll want to
remember these and look them up
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and keep an eye out for
them if you have children.
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Noticeable there's a fever.
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Fever can come and
go at different times.
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Well, this isn't anything new
or different from anything else.
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The more characteristic
things are you get inflammation
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of the mucus
membranes and you start to
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get, like, conjunctivitis.
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The eyes kind of
get red and watery.
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But it affects the
mucus membranes in the mouth.
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They can become
inflamed and erythematous.
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The lips; the
lips become very red.
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You know, cherry red lips.
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Sometimes there will be fissures
or cracks on the lips as well.
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So that's a fairly
characteristic look.
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The mucus membranes
on down into the gut.
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And they often have very
painful or sever diarrhea
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associated with it.
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So you've got those.
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There's lymph nodes that
form in the neck right here,
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although they can in
other parts of the body as well,
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but particularly those
little bumps that swell up
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and are quite tender in the
neck area is associated with it.
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And then there is the rash.
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And it's not like most
rashes, little bumps and spots.
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It's just the
face turns really red.
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Erythema is what we call it.
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But the skin
just turns really red.
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And together with
that bright red lips.
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You can get that redness
on the palms of the hands,
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or the soles of the
feet will often turn red.
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On the hands and feet,
when you get that redness there,
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a lot of times there's also
where the skin starts peeling
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around the fingernails.
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Kind of the skin around
there starts peeling back there.
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Or on the toenails,
the same thing there.
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And so, these are the
outside things that we often see
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associated with this.
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Now the tricky part is, not
everybody gets all of those.
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And of course, you know, a
lot of those are sort of common.
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I mean, how many
things cause diarrhea?
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How many things cause a fever?
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How many things
cause conjunctivitis?
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You know, so there's
a lot of things there,
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so it's a disease
that is sometimes missed.
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But it's one we
don't want to miss because
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there is treatment for it.
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And the concern with Kawasaki
is not those outward symptoms
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that we've just talked about.
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Because those, you know,
they'll go away with time.
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But it affects
the blood vessels.
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Now we've talked before
about coronavirus attacking,
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you know, the lining
of the arteries here.
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But this creates
what we call vasculitis.
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In other words,
the immune system
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starts attacking the arteries.
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And as it attacks these
arteries, this vasculitis,
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this inflammation of
the arteries, it causes
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them to dilate.
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Because they dilate,
they particularly can affect
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the arteries in the heart.
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The most serious place.
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Although it can affect arteries
in other places as well.
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To particularly note,
one of first things a doctor
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that suspects Kawasaki
is going to do, particularly
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if he gets it early
on, is you want to get
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an echocardiogram of the heart.
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In other words, we're
going to take an ultrasound,
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put it over the chest,
and look very carefully
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at all the parts of the heart,
particularly at the arteries.
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And they'll want to
know their baseline because
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as this Kawasaki progresses
those arteries can dilate,
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and in some places
they can form aneurysms.
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That means the artery just
swells up and it's got this,
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you know, very
abnormal balloon-like that forms
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there in the artery.
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Those can clot off and cause
a heart attack in the heart.
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They can form, you can
get the aneurysms in other
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arteries as well, but the heart
seems to be the big concern.
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It's really affected there.
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So we want to
follow that very closely.
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~ Doctor, it sounds
like, you said syndromes,
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so you've got a constellation of
things that you're dealing with.
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It sounds like
this is very painful.
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Like the child is
really suffering along with the
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corona, the COVID.
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This other thing on top of that
makes for a lot of suffering
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during the time
that the child is sick.
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~ Well yes, I'm
mean, they've got a fever,
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they're miserable,
and frequently diarrhea,
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which is often very
painful and miserable
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in this particular case.
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So yeah, the kid is sick.
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It's not just running around,
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"Oh, I didn't
notice my face was red."
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This is a kid
that's sick, you know.
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They've got fever, they've...
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But this particular thing,
the red face, the red hands
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or feet, or the really
red cracked lips, you know.
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Those are kind
of characteristic.
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When you see them with
this picture, it's like,
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wait a minute.
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This isn't just
something ordinary.
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This is the Kawasaki.
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The child is so young,
you're saying five or under,
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he may not be able to articulate
what he's going through,
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so you've really got
to be diligent to watch.
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Because you've got to
pick up and speak for the child
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who may not be
able to say, "I'm sick.
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I've got a lot
of things going on."
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~ But mom will notice.
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Yes, I've often found...
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You know, I've been
doing emergency medicine
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for the last 36 years.
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If you talk to mom, she'll tell
you what's wrong with her kid.
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You know, moms know
what's going on with their kids.
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And they'll tell you,
"No, look at this, this.
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This isn't normal."
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And that's very useful.
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Just as a side, in other
areas, one of the very difficult
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things is a neurological
exam in a small child.
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But all you've got to do is
ask mom, "Hey, is this normal
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for him or is this
not normal for him?"
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She'll say, "Wait,
wait, no this isn't him.
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This is not usual, okay."
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That trumps anything I say right
there, you know, that I see.
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Because, hey,
mom knows that kid.
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She knows his behavior,
she knows the nuances of it,
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and she says,
"No, this isn't right."
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So I place a lot of weight on
what mom says about their kid.
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Physicians that have
been around for a while will.
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They realize that mom knows
what's going on; she'll tell ya.
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Now she may not know
what you know about medicine,
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but she knows about her kid.
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And she knows this isn't right,
this is different than usual.
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And so, you know,
moms out there, you'll know
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that this is common there.
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But when you see these
pieces that we're talking about,
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that's when you want to get
to the pediatrician right away.
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You'll want to get in so you
can get medical help right away.
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Because there are some
things they can do that can
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reverse or significantly
shorten or stop the progression
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of this vasculitis
that's affecting the arteries.
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The big concern is vasculitis
affecting the arteries.
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And we can do that.
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And the treatment; two things.
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They will put
the child on aspirin.
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It's an anti-inflammatory
and it helps cut that down.
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They'll put them on
a, you know, high dose,
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anti-inflammatory dose
initially, and then a more
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maintenance dose will finish
out the course of the illness.
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And then the other
thing is IV immunoglobulins.
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This is a preparation
that's actually made from
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someone else's blood
where they've drawn the blood,
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separated out the
plasma, and they've concentrated
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the immunoglobulins,
these antibodies
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in other people's blood.
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And they give those as a
general set of antibodies,
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and it seems to work quite well.
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Often, a single large
infusion significantly
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reduces the symptoms.
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If the fever still
continues within a day,
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they may give a second,
or rarely even a third dose
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of the immunoglobulins.
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But it can really keep it
from advancing in this dilation
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and keep it from
forming these aneurysms.
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And it somehow
blocks the immune system.
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There's these various
proteins in there, and they're
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normalizing and blocking out
this abnormal immune reaction
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that's causing the vasculitis.
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It's not necessarily
an antibody that's killing
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the virus, per se, as in the,
you know, when we talked about
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the plasma therapy for COVID-19.
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This is a general immunoglobulin
and somehow it tends to
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help the body's immune system
get back on the right keel
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and stop
destroying the arteries.
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You know, I had heard
of this new manifestation
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of the coronavirus, but I didn't
recognize the name, Kawasaki.
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How prevalent is the problem?
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I mean, I've heard that most of
the cases have been in New York.
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There might be one in Los
Angeles and a few other places.
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~ That's correct.
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So it's not real
common at this point.
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~ There's been a
lot in France recently.
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In the last week or so they've
had quite a few cases in France.
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So they're just
popping up at all the hospitals
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there for some reason.
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They're getting a
lot of them there.
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And I'm not sure exactly.
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Of course, there's a lot
of cases in France right now,
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so it may just be a
factor of the numbers.
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Do they know why it afflicts
one child versus another child?
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No, they don't know that.
00:14:02.40\00:14:03.97
We don't have the
answers to a lot of things
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as we deal with this.
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We do know that there
is a racial difference.
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You know, in the United States
maybe one in ten thousand,
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you know...
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Or is it one in ten
thousand, I think, in the UK;
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one in five thousand
in the United States.
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Among Japanese it's
down to one in one thousand.
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They seem to have a
much higher susceptibility.
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Some genetic something makes
them more susceptible to this.
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So there's some racial
differences in who is most
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susceptible to that.
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But as far as the exact
mechanism by which it works
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or why one person is
more susceptible than another,
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we don't know.
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It's really a fairly
uncommon and rare disease.
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I mean, considering how
widespread the coronavirus
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is now, you know.
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We started with things
in New York, what was it?
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Over 20% of the population
has already been infected.
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Generally, children have
very mild or asymptomatic cases
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of the coronavirus.
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Why a few of them
develop the Kawasaki is probably
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the same with the
others; adenovirus.
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That's the common cold virus
that comes around ever year
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and everybody
gets the adenovirus
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and almost no one
gets the Kawasaki.
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But there are a
few children that do.
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And so we don't understand
exactly all of these details,
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but it is out there
and it is serious enough
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that it's considered
the number one cause of
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acquired heart
disease in America.
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In other words, some
heart diseases you're born with,
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and some you
cause by what you eat.
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But this is caused by this
particular disease process.
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Strep infections,
rheumatic heart disease,
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is another one that can
affect the heart valves.
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But this Kawasaki
disease making these aneurysms
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in the coronary arteries,
you know, is a serious thing.
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And you know, if a child
starts to come down with this,
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we certainly want to get
them treated right away to
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try to prevent it from forming
these aneurysms in the heart,
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and these dilated
vessels and stuff.
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Now in a lot of cases, even
though the fact that they're
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starting to get the dilated
vessels or maybe even starting
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to get an
aneurysm, in a lot of cases
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those will go ahead and resolve.
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They get the aspirin
and the immunoglobulins,
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and over the next, you
know, a couple or few weeks
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as they resolve, those
will come back to normal
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and they'll have
no further problems.
00:16:52.21\00:16:54.04
But in some cases if
they've gone far enough,
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they don't, and it
becomes a permanent
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problem there in the heart.
00:16:59.35\00:17:00.68
~ So the question is, there
are a few children that have
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passed away as
a result of the...
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Is it a combination of the
Kawasaki and the coronavirus
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or have they died
because of the coronavirus?
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Is it a compound issue?
00:17:15.36\00:17:16.77
~ Yeah, it's all
of that together.
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I mean, one of the things,
when we have this vasculitis
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going on and everything
is dilated, it sort of makes,
00:17:21.97\00:17:25.94
you'll often hear
them refer to the disease
00:17:25.97\00:17:29.48
toxic shock syndrome.
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It's sort of like septic shock
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where certain infections make
toxins and the blood vessels
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dilate, and the blood pressure
drops, and they're in shock.
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And we're trying to put in
IV fluids or even, you know,
00:17:42.86\00:17:46.73
IV pressure agents and stuff
to keep the blood pressure up
00:17:46.76\00:17:49.53
to keep them alive.
00:17:49.56\00:17:50.90
And these children can
go into that with that.
00:17:51.10\00:17:54.20
And it seems to
be related, again,
00:17:54.47\00:17:56.87
to the
vasculitis affecting that.
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It's like a
toxic shock syndrome.
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They can go into
this hemodynamic thing
00:18:01.11\00:18:04.41
where they go into
this toxic shock syndrome.
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And you know, it's very
life threatening at that point.
00:18:07.25\00:18:09.92
And as I mentioned, in
some cases these aneurysms
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can clot and stuff and
we can have heart attacks.
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You don't think of a five year
old as having a heart attack,
00:18:16.76\00:18:19.06
but yeah, if you
block off an artery,
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we've got a problem there.
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Early recognition and treatment
with aspirin and immunoglobulins
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is our best course on those
few children that get that.
00:18:29.34\00:18:32.04
But again, it is
rare. It's a few.
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Most people will have nothing.
00:18:34.24\00:18:35.94
And even of those that get it,
you know, when it's recognized
00:18:35.98\00:18:39.71
and treated, they can do okay.
00:18:39.75\00:18:42.78
~ That's the good
news, that it is imminently
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treatable when caught.
00:18:44.79\00:18:46.12
- Yeah. - Yeah, praise the Lord.
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Well, I'm trying to
think about how we're going to
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frame the rest of
our discussion today.
00:18:55.66\00:18:58.30
We've been wanting to
talk about lifestyle issues.
00:18:58.33\00:19:01.87
And that's been for the
last three or four programs.
00:19:02.40\00:19:05.07
We've never gotten to
that particular issue.
00:19:05.84\00:19:08.14
But let's frame it this way.
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There's a lot of
talk in the media today
00:19:11.15\00:19:14.32
and among political
parties about healthcare being
00:19:14.98\00:19:19.52
a human right.
00:19:19.55\00:19:20.89
On the other hand,
you don't hear anything
00:19:22.16\00:19:24.96
about a person's health
being a personal responsibility.
00:19:25.73\00:19:31.63
And so, you know, there's
this discussion of people
00:19:32.87\00:19:37.67
who smoke, they drink, they
eat lard, and they eat bacon,
00:19:38.04\00:19:45.51
and all these things
that cause artery disease.
00:19:45.75\00:19:49.12
And the people who are
very healthy, of course,
00:19:49.62\00:19:52.82
they have to pay for the
healthcare of those people.
00:19:53.02\00:19:55.49
So shouldn't we be
focusing more on prevention
00:19:56.12\00:20:01.60
and, you know, taking care
of our bodies rather than cures?
00:20:02.26\00:20:08.44
You know, we always
bear a responsibility.
00:20:10.11\00:20:12.44
It's interesting,
though, in the legal area in the
00:20:12.47\00:20:15.98
political arena right now,
not right now, but recently
00:20:16.01\00:20:20.62
in the past, we do
recognize that in some cases.
00:20:20.65\00:20:24.39
Why do we have motorcycle helmet
laws and bicycle helmet laws
00:20:24.72\00:20:28.99
now where you have to wear a
helmet when you're out riding?
00:20:29.02\00:20:31.69
Because everybody else
shouldn't have to pay for your
00:20:32.33\00:20:34.93
quadriplegia for
the rest of your life
00:20:34.96\00:20:37.10
if you weren't wearing a
helmet and you could have.
00:20:37.13\00:20:39.47
And so, we pass
laws to protect you.
00:20:39.73\00:20:43.81
But we only go so far
in certain areas, you know.
00:20:44.54\00:20:47.54
We don't arrest
people for smoking
00:20:48.81\00:20:50.95
or for eating hamburgers yet.
00:20:50.98\00:20:53.01
And I don't know that we should.
00:20:54.58\00:20:56.72
I'm not talking about arresting.
00:20:56.75\00:20:59.02
You know, I'm
talking about the issue of
00:20:59.25\00:21:01.89
paying for their healthcare.
00:21:01.92\00:21:03.39
Because this has to
do more with long-term.
00:21:04.36\00:21:08.10
It's not like having an accident
and you don't have a helmet,
00:21:08.13\00:21:11.37
and therefore for the rest of
your life you're a quadriplegic.
00:21:11.40\00:21:14.37
Yeah, and when
it comes down to it,
00:21:14.40\00:21:18.51
in a wealthy nation
with not too much disease,
00:21:19.57\00:21:24.25
we can afford to pay
for everybody's healthcare.
00:21:24.31\00:21:27.45
But as healthcare
gets more expensive,
00:21:27.82\00:21:30.02
and disease gets more
extensive, those soon run out of
00:21:30.42\00:21:36.83
the ability of possibilities and
you start limiting healthcare.
00:21:36.86\00:21:43.90
And that's when the
personal responsibility
00:21:44.87\00:21:48.60
really falls, not on
everybody else, but back on you.
00:21:48.97\00:21:52.44
Because sooner or later there
won't be enough CT scanners,
00:21:53.04\00:21:57.55
MRI's, and you know, all
of the special imaging things.
00:21:57.58\00:22:02.68
There won't be enough
lab tests for everybody,
00:22:02.72\00:22:04.95
there won't be
enough, you know, drugs,
00:22:04.99\00:22:09.22
particularly some of
these really expensive ones
00:22:09.26\00:22:11.63
for everybody.
00:22:11.66\00:22:12.99
And then, if your healthcare
resources get overwhelmed
00:22:13.03\00:22:17.10
in a pandemic like we have
seen in New York and, you know,
00:22:17.13\00:22:22.87
other places, suddenly all
of the resources are used up
00:22:22.90\00:22:26.74
taking care of the
immediate emergency.
00:22:26.78\00:22:29.38
And everybody else that
has another medical problem
00:22:29.74\00:22:32.38
is pushed on the back burner.
00:22:32.85\00:22:34.28
They start
canceling all of those things.
00:22:34.32\00:22:36.92
But you know, insurance
companies start denying
00:22:38.59\00:22:42.52
certain things, and, "Well,
this is no longer essential,"
00:22:42.56\00:22:45.99
or, "This isn't a
covered benefit anymore."
00:22:46.03\00:22:48.23
Or trying to just deal with the
reality of there's not enough
00:22:48.26\00:22:53.00
money in America to pay to
do everything for everybody
00:22:53.03\00:22:56.20
when everybody is sick.
00:22:56.24\00:22:57.64
And so, your
health really comes back
00:22:58.47\00:23:01.38
to your own responsibility
to preserve your health.
00:23:02.34\00:23:05.65
You know, God gave
health to you as a right.
00:23:06.58\00:23:10.22
You have the
right to good health.
00:23:10.25\00:23:11.82
God has promised it to you.
00:23:11.85\00:23:13.62
And He's promised
to maintain it for you.
00:23:14.12\00:23:16.96
Not only has He given us
wise advice on, you know,
00:23:17.63\00:23:21.86
you might say a prescription
from the doctor for sunshine,
00:23:21.90\00:23:26.80
fresh air, drink lots of
water, eat lots of fruit.
00:23:26.84\00:23:31.07
You know, He starts
giving us those prescriptions;
00:23:31.17\00:23:33.54
now we can follow
them or not follow them.
00:23:33.58\00:23:35.48
But you know, health
comes from following them.
00:23:35.51\00:23:39.35
And even beyond the
prescriptions of healthcare,
00:23:39.71\00:23:44.65
He's told us that, you know,
"I am the Lord, your Healer."
00:23:45.32\00:23:49.92
That's His
title. He's our Healer.
00:23:49.96\00:23:51.86
Salvation and physical
healing are so intertwined
00:23:52.83\00:23:59.43
when we talk about
Christ's work to redeem and undo
00:23:59.47\00:24:03.71
all the evil that
Satan has done in this world.
00:24:03.81\00:24:06.84
And when He came
here 2000 years ago,
00:24:06.88\00:24:09.48
He spent as much time
going around miraculously
00:24:09.58\00:24:13.52
healing people
because that was His mission.
00:24:13.55\00:24:17.25
Not just to get
people interested
00:24:18.25\00:24:20.19
so they would listen to Him.
00:24:20.22\00:24:21.69
It really was His
mission to restore health.
00:24:21.72\00:24:25.59
~ Physical,
mental, and spiritual.
00:24:26.09\00:24:28.30
Yeah, that was really
definitely part of His mission.
00:24:28.33\00:24:32.70
I understand that the New
Testament uses the same word
00:24:34.40\00:24:39.24
for,
"salvation," and, "healing".
00:24:39.27\00:24:41.14
And while I'm not
proficient in those languages,
00:24:41.78\00:24:44.68
I have been told that item.
00:24:44.71\00:24:46.88
And I think there is a
lot of insight to be gained
00:24:46.92\00:24:50.69
in understanding the
closeness of those two.
00:24:50.72\00:24:53.52
How closely healing,
physical healing, is connected
00:24:53.56\00:24:58.49
with spiritual healing.
00:24:58.53\00:24:59.86
Those two go together
in so many ways, you know.
00:24:59.89\00:25:02.70
We can talk for weeks about
the connection between those.
00:25:02.73\00:25:06.53
You know, but we understand
the health principles.
00:25:07.00\00:25:10.84
They form a huge big part of our
part in cooperating with God.
00:25:10.87\00:25:15.84
Much in the same way that
He gave His Ten Commandments.
00:25:15.88\00:25:18.95
And as we cooperate with
those, it's how we cooperate
00:25:19.15\00:25:23.52
in our spiritual healing.
00:25:23.55\00:25:25.29
You know, the Spirit
comes to do both of these in us.
00:25:25.65\00:25:29.99
The Spirit heals our body
and the Spirit heals our soul,
00:25:30.03\00:25:35.26
but He does it
through our cooperation,
00:25:35.63\00:25:38.83
our submission, our surrender,
our absolutely giving into
00:25:39.03\00:25:43.94
God's way, recognizing
Him as the Ruler in our lives.
00:25:44.51\00:25:48.64
And as we do that, we
place Him in a position
00:25:49.21\00:25:52.78
where He's free to go ahead and
do miracles that go even beyond
00:25:52.81\00:25:57.82
fruits and vegetables.
00:25:57.99\00:25:59.52
You know, I like
the story of Naaman.
00:26:01.62\00:26:06.16
You know, the Syrian
captain that came down
00:26:06.36\00:26:09.00
to Elisha with
this incurable disease.
00:26:09.43\00:26:15.10
There was no physician at
the time that had anything
00:26:15.14\00:26:17.87
to offer, any hope to offer him.
00:26:17.91\00:26:20.34
And we have diseases today
in which there are physicians
00:26:20.81\00:26:24.15
that have no hope to offer us.
00:26:24.18\00:26:25.68
But he came with
this, and he went to him
00:26:25.71\00:26:30.02
and had heard that he
could do miraculous healings,
00:26:30.05\00:26:33.05
because of the
witness of this little girl.
00:26:33.09\00:26:34.89
And when he got
there, Elisha didn't even
00:26:35.52\00:26:39.83
come down and talk to him.
00:26:39.86\00:26:41.23
He basically
sent his servant down.
00:26:42.23\00:26:48.30
Just his messenger.
00:26:48.84\00:26:50.44
~ Didn't make
Naaman too happy, did it?
00:26:50.47\00:26:52.34
No. And he said, "Just
go wash in the Jordan river
00:26:52.44\00:26:56.95
seven times and
you'll be healed."
00:26:56.98\00:26:58.65
You know, and then he
was really mad, you know.
00:26:59.38\00:27:01.32
He said, "I got
really taken on this one.
00:27:01.42\00:27:03.85
The guy wouldn't
even come talk to me."
00:27:05.09\00:27:07.19
Oh, and he was mad.
00:27:07.22\00:27:08.62
- And I remember that, you
know, compared to the rivers
00:27:09.39\00:27:12.16
he had at home which
he said were much cleaner,
00:27:12.19\00:27:15.16
he said, "Yeah, he
sends me to this mud hole."
00:27:15.56\00:27:17.37
But finally his friends
say, "Well, just try it."
00:27:17.63\00:27:20.17
So he went out to the
river, he dipped seven times,
00:27:20.20\00:27:22.97
and on the seventh time
he was miraculously healed.
00:27:23.00\00:27:27.08
Now was it the water in the
Jordan river that healed him?
00:27:27.54\00:27:31.25
No, of course not. You know.
00:27:32.51\00:27:34.65
It was God's
miraculous healing power.
00:27:35.12\00:27:39.22
But if he hadn't gone and
dipped in the river seven times,
00:27:39.42\00:27:42.86
would God have
been free to heal him?
00:27:43.09\00:27:44.83
No, if he had gone
back and said, "I'm going to
00:27:45.49\00:27:46.86
dip in this other river," no.
00:27:46.90\00:27:49.03
No, God, He comes to
all of us with that option.
00:27:49.06\00:27:54.34
Well, time is up.
00:27:54.44\00:27:55.84
Dip in the river.
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We'll see you again next
time on Coronavirus Report.
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Stay healthy, stay well.
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