Hello, and welcome to
SumTV's Coronavirus Report.
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This is our weekly update on the
happenings with the coronavirus.
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With me is Pastor Stephen Bohr.
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- Pastor, good to have
you here. - Good to see you.
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I'm C. A. Murray.
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And our resource person happens
to be the chairman of our board;
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that's Dr. Milton Teske.
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Good doctor, we know you're
busy, so we're glad and thankful
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that you've been able to
take out a few minutes of your
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very busy
schedule to be with us.
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Glad to be here today.
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He's got so much information,
he's got a couple of new things
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he wants to share with us today.
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So we're going to just
launch out and start him
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because we've got
a lot to talk about
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and not a lot of time to do it.
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Pastor, I know you've
got a couple of questions,
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so I'm going to
put it in your hands,
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and then I've got a couple.
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Then the good doctor has
some new information for us
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that he wants to share.
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Okay, very good.
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One thing I've really admired
about you, Dr. Teske, is your
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vast knowledge of physiology.
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Besides being a medical doctor.
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And I understand that
this virus works differently
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than other similar viruses.
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So could you share
with the audience, you know,
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the differences in the
way that this virus works
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versus SARS and
some of the others?
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Yeah, that's really
on the front edge of what
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we're discovering now,
because this virus is not just
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another coronavirus.
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It's not just a SARS virus with
slightly different infectivity.
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Although, it is more infectious.
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They found out that a
SARS virus, when it replicates
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and destroys a
cell, one virus will make
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10, 20, 30 more viruses.
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With this COVID
virus, it's more than 100.
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So we've got a whole
order of magnitude of just
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more virus
particles coming out faster
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in the infection process.
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But the really scary
stuff we're finding out here
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is a totally different area of
function that this COVID virus
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has than its closest
relative, the SARS virus.
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You know, there's
the SARS and MERS,
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and all these other different
types of coronaviruses,
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plus, a lot of common
coronaviruses that just cause
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light common cold symptoms.
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But this one has really
been engineered, designed.
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It's built of what the virology
scientists and researchers
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call, enhancement of function.
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In other words, it's
able to do something different
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that it couldn't do before.
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And what we're discovering,
one of the big things,
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is its effect on the
body's immune system.
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You know, when you look
at the virus, it's got these
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little spikes out on the
side, and those little spikes
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is how it infects.
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And those little
spikes, they attach and attack
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an enzyme,
angiotensin-converting enzyme.
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Or they just often
refer to it as ACE2.
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And this enzyme is on
the surface of many cells.
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It's particularly prominent
on the epithelium in the lungs.
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That's why when it gets
down in the lungs it causes
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these really bad pneumonias
and you end up on ventilators
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or ECMO or something like
that trying to keep you alive,
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because it's doing
so much lung damage.
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But there's also, these ACE
enzymes are on the myocardium.
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And that's why the
virus can attack the heart
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and cause a bad myocarditis,
destroy heart function,
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and people go
into cardiogenic shock,
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and maybe half the people
die from heart failure there.
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But the new thing that we're
discovering is its effect on the
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body's immune system.
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Now when doctors
follow people for infections,
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one of the most
common tests they do is a CBC
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where you count the blood cells.
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And you have the different types
of white blood cells in there.
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And there's the neutrophils,
and the lymphocytes,
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and the eosinophils.
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Well, the lymphocytes is
one big component of that.
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There's you T lymphocytes
and your B lymphocytes.
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But even those are subdivided.
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It's a very complex military
that your body has designed
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to fight off the enemy.
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And there's very specialized
functions between these
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different cells
and what they do.
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But interestingly,
in these COVID patients
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not only do we not get a
big high elevated white count
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like we do in a
bacterial infection,
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the white count
doesn't seem to elevate,
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but particularly the
lymphocytes get lower.
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We use the word,
lymphopenia, which just means
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there's too little lymphocytes.
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And we're finding that
particularly in bad cases
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the lymphocyte
count goes way down.
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And of course, the lower
your lymphocyte count gets,
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the more likely you are
to succumb to this disease.
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If you're somewhat medically
minded or just kept up on
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some things, you probably
are aware that we're talking
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something similar
to HIV in a sense.
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Because what
does the HIV virus do?
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The AIDS virus
actually attacks and destroys
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your body's immune cells.
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And when it
destroys enough of them,
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there's no way for you
to fight off the infection.
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So one of the really important
cells here, the T lymphocytes,
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some of them are, we use
the term, NK's, natural killers.
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Or sometimes we refer
to them as killer T's.
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These particular
cells, they're not the ones
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that make antibodies.
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That's the B lymphocytes.
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But these T lymphocytes,
these killer lymphocytes,
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Their job is to
actually kill and destroy cells.
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Like, for
instance, the cancer cell.
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And a lot of our new cancer
things, we're trying to somehow
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get them to be better
at targeting cancer cells.
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Many people are beginning to
realize that cancer is really
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a failure of your body's immune
system to recognize and destroy
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cancerous cells that are
popping up all of the time.
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Your body recognizes them,
destroys them, and you go on
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and never knew
there was anything there.
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I mean, cancer has got to
be billions of cells big before
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you can, big enough for
you to find and realize,
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"Oh dear, I've got cancer."
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By then it's so far down
the road, things are often
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much more difficult to fight.
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But back to our story here.
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These killer T's, their
job is to identify an enemy.
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But not just cancer cells.
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When a virus infects a cell,
we talked about this in our
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first episode here, but
when the virus infects the cell,
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it attaches to it and it injects
its viral code inside the cell.
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It just hijacks it, takes it
over, and now it is all focused,
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instead of building the various
components that the cell needed
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for whatever type of
cell it was, now it's building
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viral components.
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And assembling inside there,
actually it's assembling virus
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particles in there,
and we're getting viruses.
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And like we just mentioned,
in this case it will build over
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a hundred more COVID
viruses before the cell is
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finally so overwhelmed
that it breaks down and releases
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those viruses.
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Well killer T's can go recognize
that this cell is infected.
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They can tell by the
changes in the surface
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the cell is infected.
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And what a killer T is, it goes
to the surface of one of these
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infected cells and it
actually makes a hole in it.
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It's like it has the
ability to just punch a hole.
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Now how do you make a
hole in a cell membrane?
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It's actually got
special little protein rods,
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and it just spshh,
like a machine gun.
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It shoots a barrage of
these little rods into the side.
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These little rods, they
lock together, each together
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in a ring making a
tube of these little rods.
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And this tube is now a hole.
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And so, now you've got a hole.
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And it's like you took
a machine gun and shot the
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side of this cell full of holes.
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Well now we've got
no integrity between
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the inside and the outside.
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But even more than that,
the killer T actually injects
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substances in there
like poisons, toxins,
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that actually destroy the cell.
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They destroy the viruses in
there, they destroy the cell.
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They wipe it out.
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I mean, once a cell
is infected, it's doomed.
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There's no way you're
going to save that cell's life.
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But for the sake of the body,
we need to get rid of that cell.
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And killer T's are
really good at doing that.
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And so, you might say killer
T's are the number one enemy
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of the COVID virus and the
warfare that's going on there.
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Well now, here is
what we've discovered
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about the COVID
and the killer T's.
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And that is, a COVID
virus has the ability
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to go to the
surface of a T lymphocyte
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and actually
fuse with the surface.
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And when it
fuses with the surface,
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it actually
injects itself in there
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and it actually can take
over the cell and kill it.
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And interestingly,
it's different than the way
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it attacks the lung
epithelium and the myocardium,
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and all these other parts.
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Because in most of these
cases, like we talked about,
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it attacks, those little spikes,
they attach at that ACE enzyme,
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angiotensin-converting enzyme.
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And as they attach
there and inject their stuff
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and take over the
cell, that's how it works.
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But in this case, T lymphocytes
have very few of these
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particular
enzymes on their surface.
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They're not really
involved in that function.
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And what happens is, these
spikes have now been modified
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in such a way that they come
up to a T lymphocyte surface,
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they actually
fuse with the surface,
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just merge right
into the surface,
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and release
everything into the surface
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breaking down the actin fibers,
the things that give integrity
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underneath your cell membrane.
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Just open it wide open
and it releases its material
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inside the cell, and it
actually leads to the death
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of the T lymphocyte.
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Although, interestingly
it doesn't take over and
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make more viruses
in the T lymphocyte.
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In other words, it's
not using the T lymphocyte
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as a factory to
make more COVIDs,
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but it destroys the T
lymphocyte in this process.
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I mean, in other words, somehow
we've added the function to this
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to come and fuse with that.
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And this is a new function.
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No other
coronavirus can do this.
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The worst one we had
before COVID was the SARS.
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And the SARS virus cannot
fuse with the T lymphocyte.
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And the MERS virus
cannot fuse with it.
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And the other coronaviruses.
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This is what the researchers,
the virologists call,
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enhancement of function.
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In other words, we have
now altered the surface of this
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with various sequences in the
gene which changes the protein.
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And now we've added to the
function to fuse and destroy
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T lymphocytes.
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Now HIV viruses can fuse
and destroy T lymphocytes.
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Ebola viruses can do that.
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But coronaviruses
have never done that
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before this particular version.
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So we have now added a
whole new dimension to pathology
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and disease here.
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You know, we've taken
something really evil and bad
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and we've spread that evil now
into this very infective virus.
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So it's very infective,
but it's also becoming
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more lethal by adding
this particular function to it.
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It's part of the, you might
say, the scariness of what's
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going on with this
particular disease.
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And it matches some
of the stuff we see.
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Not just in the fact that
we see lymphocytes going down,
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but we see people responding,
you know, with destruction
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of their body's
immune system, you know.
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When they do an autopsy,
they say it not only just
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destroys, you know, the lungs
or the heart, these others,
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but we're finding out
the body's immune system
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is really damaged in
severe cases of this right here.
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And we've just made
people more susceptible.
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The strength of this, you know,
for those who thought and said
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that this was pretty much
just like a flu or common cold,
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this is a flu with a
machine gun in its hands.
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Because it has this
other wrinkle to do some things
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that these others don't
do, attacking the T cells and
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tearing down the
body's immune system.
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That's a whole other ball game.
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Right, that's a whole
different level of evil
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that has come in
here, the pathology.
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It's just really, its ability to
do that, how that got designed
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and built into there is really
an awesome and scary thing.
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But it explains
some of the stuff we see.
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You know, you'll see
somebody that very rapidly
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will go from being a
very healthy individual
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to become very sick
and in the hospital in ICU,
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and they die from it.
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And while the majority of
those we see that go in there
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are older people with
more compromised, you know,
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other things
already wrong with them.
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They may have a bad heart
or lungs, or something there.
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Not all of them.
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There are also young
healthy people with apparently
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nothing wrong with
them that would make them
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more susceptible to this.
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That's what I see that
is a little frightening;
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this idea that young
healthy people are going from
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relatively good
health to at death's door
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very rapidly once
they've been diagnosed.
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So it seems as though
this virus has the ability
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to seek out whatever
ails you and magnifies that
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and complicates that,
and makes this bee line
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to, you know, morbidity.
00:14:48.05\00:14:51.09
Because whatever you
have, it will find it
00:14:51.12\00:14:53.46
and it will work on that.
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Yeah, any part of our system
that's broken down is going to
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make us more susceptible
to this particular virus.
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But in these cases where
we get what appears to be a
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young healthy
individual, the vulnerability
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probably is genetic.
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There is probably
some genetic variation
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and some gene
coding for some protein
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on some cell that
is now very susceptible
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to this virus, and
suddenly this person is actually
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very susceptible to
this particular virus.
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Otherwise, in life
they would have no problem
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because that particular,
you know, genetic change
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probably is no big deal because
everything else works fine.
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But now in the
presence of this virus, suddenly
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it takes advantage of
that one small weakness
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and we now have a
person that was totally healthy
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and now very rapidly
the disease progresses
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and they die for it.
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We don't know what
particular one it is,
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and maybe there's
several different genetic errors
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or changes in there that
can make one more susceptible.
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You know, this virus is so
new the scientists are rushing
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to try to
discover this cell stuff.
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Every day we're getting new...
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The stuff I'm just sharing with
you just came out this week.
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We couldn't have had
this lecture last week because
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that wasn't even known then.
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And so who knows what we'll find
by next week that comes out.
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But scientists are
rapidly working on this
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all over the world and
new little facts and details
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and nuances are coming out.
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And, you know, it's
really a very developing thing
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right here that
we're on the front lines of
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to figure out what
this is, what it can do,
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and of course most importantly,
what can we do about it?
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I have a couple of questions.
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You hear a lot
about plasma therapy.
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So is that kind of like
calling in the reinforcements?
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Using the plasma of somebody
that was infected and overcame
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the disease, and now they inject
those into another person's
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immune system to kind of
bring in the reinforcements?
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Yeah, yeah, when you
take somebody's plasma,
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you go to the blood
bank, they draw off your blood.
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They separate out the red
blood cells and you get the
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serum, the clear
yellow part of the blood,
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the plasma that's left here.
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Well, in there is antibodies.
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Antibodies are
special proteins made by
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your body's immune system.
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It's a complex thing of
how they know what to make,
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and how to make
it, and who to make it,
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and to make it.
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But the B lymphocytes are
the ones that automatically
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ultimately turn
into the factories
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to manufacture antibodies.
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Antibodies are actually
shaped like the letter "Y".
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There's a central part,
and then these two arms.
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And both of the two arms are
identical, and they've got sites
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that specifically can identify
a particular virus or bacteria.
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In this case, the COVID virus.
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And they can lock onto it.
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But because there's two arms,
it can lock onto two of them.
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And another one
can lock onto two.
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And you start
getting all of these viruses
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stuck together in a big clump.
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Well, now that they're
stuck together in a big clump,
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they can't actually just go out
and start infecting other cells.
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Now they're all kind of,
sort of locked up in this.
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It's like, take a
bunch of criminals,
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put handcuffs on them, and
you handcuff them all together.
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And now they're all
handcuffed together,
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and you've got 30, well
how much crime can you do
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when you're
handcuffed to 30 other criminals
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and you can't move your arms.
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But that's just
the beginning of it.
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This big, the
other, the tail of the "Y"
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that doesn't lock on,
well it's got all types of
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other things
that are locked onto
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or that are
sensed by other cells.
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Now one of the important cells
in your body's immune system
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is the
macrophage, the big eaters.
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These are the ones
that come out with a
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process we call, phagocytosis.
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They just swallow
up and go at this.
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Well these little antibody
tails sticking out there,
00:19:02.94\00:19:06.17
it's sort of like sugar coating.
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And when a macrophage
finds some of these sugar coated
00:19:08.81\00:19:13.48
viruses all stuck together, you
know, caramel peanut clusters,
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let's go for this.
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And it just moves
around it, pulls it in.
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And once it gets
inside, then he's got...
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It's inside of a
little cage in there.
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It's not just loose inside, it
is in this little cage in there.
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He brings another little cage
over, a container, that's full
00:19:32.13\00:19:35.90
of powerful proteolytic
enzymes and peroxidases,
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and it totally oxidizes and
rips the viruses and everything
00:19:39.94\00:19:43.81
in there to shreds,
totally destroying it.
00:19:43.85\00:19:46.68
And so, these
antibodies are important.
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And if you have had the
infection and your immune system
00:19:50.85\00:19:53.89
has worked properly,
and your immune system has
00:19:53.92\00:19:56.79
made lots of
antibodies and won this battle,
00:19:56.83\00:19:59.79
now we can take your blood
that's full of these antibodies.
00:20:00.00\00:20:03.60
And now I can infuse that
into you that just got infected
00:20:03.83\00:20:07.40
and really wanted to win this
battle, but was having a trouble
00:20:07.44\00:20:11.84
right now, and those
antibodies start locking up
00:20:11.87\00:20:15.14
all of these guys, and
we can really get ahead.
00:20:15.18\00:20:17.48
So it's a really
important tool where we are
00:20:17.51\00:20:20.92
working with the
body's immune system,
00:20:21.02\00:20:23.55
and it's a way that you can help
him fight and win this battle.
00:20:23.65\00:20:28.79
You've been victorious over
it here with your antibodies,
00:20:28.82\00:20:31.86
and now you can share
your antibodies with him
00:20:31.89\00:20:33.93
and help him win that battle.
00:20:33.96\00:20:36.23
So yeah, that's
what plasma therapy is.
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I understand it
a lot better now.
00:20:38.73\00:20:41.04
I'm glad.
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The other thing I want to ask
is, there's a lot of discussion
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these days about hydro...
00:20:47.91\00:20:50.58
~ Hydroxychloroquine.
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Yeah, that's a
mouthful. Hydroxychloroquine.
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~ Yeah, hydroxychloroquine.
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And it seems to be
more of a political thing
00:20:57.25\00:21:00.09
than anything else.
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So what is the truth
about hydroxychloroquine?
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Okay, hydroxychloroquine
is a drug that's been around
00:21:04.16\00:21:07.06
for a long time.
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We've used it
for treating malaria.
00:21:08.73\00:21:11.97
For decades we've been using it.
00:21:12.63\00:21:14.77
It works much
better than quinine,
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which use to be the only thing
we had to treat malaria with.
00:21:16.74\00:21:19.07
That really caused
a lot of side effects.
00:21:19.11\00:21:20.84
Yeah, well this is
much better at fighting it.
00:21:20.88\00:21:23.11
Chloroquine, and now
the hydroxychloroquine.
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I spent some time in
Zambia, and I took it
00:21:26.01\00:21:29.85
so that I wouldn't get malaria.
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Because I was in a bad
area and there were mosquitoes
00:21:32.19\00:21:34.42
where there was malaria.
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And I didn't want to
get malaria, so I took this
00:21:35.82\00:21:37.69
and I never got malaria.
00:21:37.73\00:21:39.33
But if I had
gotten bit by a mosquito,
00:21:39.79\00:21:41.93
which I got
hundreds of mosquito bites
00:21:41.96\00:21:43.97
while I was there, if some
of those had malaria in them,
00:21:44.00\00:21:47.17
well the hydroxychloroquine
killed the malaria,
00:21:47.20\00:21:49.90
and so I never
had a problem with it.
00:21:49.94\00:21:51.87
They found that it
seems to work in fighting
00:21:52.94\00:21:55.88
this particular virus.
00:21:55.91\00:21:57.65
And I can't tell you
the mechanism; I'm not sure
00:21:57.95\00:21:59.85
if anybody knows the
mechanism by which it works.
00:21:59.88\00:22:02.12
But they have tried it.
00:22:02.15\00:22:03.55
It has worked sometimes
in the past on other viruses,
00:22:03.79\00:22:06.15
so they thought,
"Well, let's try it."
00:22:06.19\00:22:07.52
And it seems to
work pretty good.
00:22:07.56\00:22:09.02
They were doing that
in China for a while.
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The nice thing about this is, it
is not a new experimental drug.
00:22:11.46\00:22:14.70
This is a drug that has
been around for decades,
00:22:14.73\00:22:17.23
we know its side effect profile,
and it's extremely minimal.
00:22:17.27\00:22:20.57
You know, most people take
it and there's no side effects
00:22:20.67\00:22:22.70
or problems at all.
00:22:22.74\00:22:24.07
And it seems to
work really well.
00:22:24.11\00:22:26.71
And it's never been, quote,
"officially approved" by the FDA
00:22:27.34\00:22:33.95
for fighting COVID because
we never had COVID to fight
00:22:33.98\00:22:37.02
before the last
couple of months.
00:22:37.05\00:22:38.45
So, has there been long-term
studies, double blinded studies
00:22:38.49\00:22:43.16
with placebos and everything
to prove that it works?
00:22:43.19\00:22:46.49
Well, no, there hasn't been.
00:22:46.53\00:22:48.30
And so, politically there's,
you know, a battle between
00:22:49.56\00:22:53.60
those who are saying,
"No, no, it's experimental.
00:22:53.64\00:22:55.44
We need to hold it.
00:22:55.47\00:22:56.81
Well, last ditch effort you
can give it to people in the ICU
00:22:56.84\00:22:59.27
that are really sick, but
you can't give it to everybody."
00:22:59.31\00:23:01.81
And others of us are
saying, "Wait a minute.
00:23:02.11\00:23:04.38
Why don't you give this to
people that are just coming down
00:23:04.71\00:23:07.82
with minor symptoms, get rid
of it, get rid of the infection,
00:23:07.85\00:23:12.15
and actually save
them from ending up...
00:23:12.19\00:23:14.59
Why do they have to get
sick and almost die in the ICU
00:23:14.62\00:23:17.26
before we can give
them this medication
00:23:17.29\00:23:19.33
that seems to work quite well?"
00:23:19.36\00:23:21.46
It certainly should be
an option that's out there
00:23:21.60\00:23:24.20
for everyone, in my opinion.
00:23:24.23\00:23:25.93
Everyone can make their
own decision whether they
00:23:26.40\00:23:28.64
want to take the drug or not.
00:23:28.67\00:23:30.01
But I really think that
to tie it up, lock it up,
00:23:30.04\00:23:34.81
you know, is
probably not appropriate.
00:23:35.54\00:23:38.95
But there's two political
sides, and each have their
00:23:38.98\00:23:42.05
underlying political motivation.
00:23:42.08\00:23:44.09
And I guess that's
not for us to solve today.
00:23:44.12\00:23:46.76
I want to go on record
on television that if I
00:23:46.79\00:23:49.12
get seriously ill,
I want it used on me.
00:23:49.16\00:23:52.46
At least pass on the word.
00:23:52.73\00:23:54.33
The problem is,
you're in California.
00:23:54.36\00:23:56.16
I'm moving elsewhere.
00:23:58.27\00:24:00.10
There are other states
that would be better to be in
00:24:00.14\00:24:02.77
if you would like
some hydroxychloroquine
00:24:02.80\00:24:04.94
than California.
00:24:04.97\00:24:06.31
Take me elsewhere.
00:24:06.34\00:24:07.68
Is it available? Is there a...
00:24:08.14\00:24:10.45
I know it's been
around for a long time, but
00:24:10.48\00:24:12.48
are there large
amounts of it around?
00:24:12.51\00:24:14.52
Is it being used
actively now for something else
00:24:14.55\00:24:16.85
that would pull away from that
if we began to use it for this?
00:24:16.95\00:24:20.32
There are a couple of diseases
that it works quite well for.
00:24:20.36\00:24:24.09
And so they're saying,
well, don't everybody take it
00:24:24.46\00:24:26.73
because now these
people won't have anything
00:24:26.76\00:24:28.76
for their particular condition.
00:24:28.80\00:24:30.47
But on the other hand, there
are still millions of doses
00:24:31.13\00:24:34.80
stacked up on a federal
level and the federal stockpile,
00:24:34.84\00:24:37.67
which they are
putting out to the states.
00:24:37.97\00:24:40.38
But the states have
the authority to decide
00:24:40.41\00:24:43.48
how that's used in their state.
00:24:43.51\00:24:45.21
- Or if it's
used. - Or if it's used.
00:24:45.25\00:24:47.42
And how
restrictive they want it to be.
00:24:47.45\00:24:49.68
And you know, I'm not going to
try to solve that problem today.
00:24:49.72\00:24:52.99
But yeah, so it's the
distribution of the large,
00:24:53.02\00:24:57.49
what we call, the
strategic stockpile.
00:24:58.13\00:25:01.43
We have a strategic
stockpile not only of this drug,
00:25:01.46\00:25:05.17
but of many different
antibiotics and essential drugs
00:25:05.20\00:25:07.97
that could be used in
pandemic type situations.
00:25:08.07\00:25:11.24
Stored and maintained
by the federal government.
00:25:11.27\00:25:14.48
They're actually
stored in Atlanta.
00:25:14.91\00:25:16.48
Some of them are stored
actually in places otherwise,
00:25:16.51\00:25:19.05
in warehouses.
00:25:19.08\00:25:20.42
And they can ship
out at a moment's notice
00:25:20.45\00:25:22.28
these large amounts
of these medications.
00:25:22.32\00:25:24.62
And we do have those
and we can ship them out,
00:25:24.65\00:25:27.26
and they are shipping them out.
00:25:27.29\00:25:28.62
But whether you'll be
able to get a prescription
00:25:28.66\00:25:32.19
when you need
one, I can't predict.
00:25:32.23\00:25:34.26
We'll go across the border.
00:25:34.30\00:25:35.73
And hopefully
they'll have some too.
00:25:37.67\00:25:39.33
How are we doing, Dr.
Teske, with personal protective
00:25:39.37\00:25:45.11
equipment, as far
as that getting out,
00:25:45.14\00:25:47.04
as far as people
getting sufficient numbers?
00:25:47.08\00:25:49.24
There was a lady on the
other day who had been at
00:25:49.44\00:25:51.85
the Ebola breakout in Africa.
00:25:51.88\00:25:55.48
And she was saying
the difference between
00:25:55.52\00:25:57.29
that and this, one of
the differences is that
00:25:57.32\00:25:59.85
they had sufficient
supplies of equipment.
00:25:59.95\00:26:02.42
And they were
still a little short.
00:26:02.52\00:26:04.06
She was a nurse.
00:26:04.09\00:26:05.43
In fact, she was in
charge of a team of nurses.
00:26:05.46\00:26:07.23
She's still
running out of supplies.
00:26:07.43\00:26:08.96
How are we doing with that?
00:26:09.00\00:26:10.33
Of course, the difference
between this and Ebola,
00:26:10.53\00:26:12.80
we had several small countries
in Africa that needed it
00:26:12.83\00:26:16.10
for their clinics there.
00:26:16.14\00:26:17.77
Here, we've got a large
nation, actually an entire world
00:26:18.04\00:26:22.64
that is suffering
under this pandemic.
00:26:22.81\00:26:25.11
And every hospital in this
world wants enough to protect
00:26:25.15\00:26:28.75
their healthcare workers.
00:26:28.78\00:26:30.19
And this rate of usage
of protective equipment
00:26:30.39\00:26:34.92
has never been used on
a worldwide scale before.
00:26:34.96\00:26:37.53
So there isn't enough.
00:26:37.56\00:26:38.93
And they're
gearing up the factories,
00:26:39.19\00:26:41.46
we're putting out, you
know, how many millions of masks
00:26:41.50\00:26:44.03
per day, but it's still going to
be a while until they catch up
00:26:44.07\00:26:48.20
to the need.
00:26:48.24\00:26:49.57
In hospitals there
are strategies for reusing
00:26:50.01\00:26:53.11
a lot of this equipment.
00:26:53.14\00:26:54.54
They're to be cleaned
and sterilized and reused.
00:26:54.58\00:26:57.15
And they're doing that
to try to extend its life.
00:26:57.18\00:26:59.31
In terms of what common people
are going to be thinking about,
00:26:59.95\00:27:04.05
though, is you can
get reasonable protection
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with a paper mask or one
of these cloth sewn masks.
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You can wear those.
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If everybody in our country
started wearing these cloth ones
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that you sewed made out of
old t-shirts and handkerchiefs
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we could stop this
virus in its tracks.
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Because that's enough to stop
the virus spreading from you.
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And if everybody put one
on, well who could spread it?
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It's the ones that aren't
wearing that is the problem.
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Good point.
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~ I wear one. ~ Alright.
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So do I.
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Pastor, we're
just under 30 seconds.
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Give us some words to
give us some encouragement
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for this week.
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Well, this too will pass.
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Lord willing.
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And you know, the
main thing that I found
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is there's a lot of complaints
about people being lonely.
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But don't be lonely.
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Because the Lord Jesus is near.
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~ And He's our best
Friend. ~ Amen, amen.
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That's a good word.
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He'll never leave
you, nor forsake you.
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We'll see you again next
week on Coronavirus Report.
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