Hello, my name is CA Murray.
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And welcome to
Coronavirus Report.
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I'm in the company
of Pastor Stephen Bohr
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and our resource
person Dr. Milton Teske.
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Good to have you gentlemen here.
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When we did our initial program,
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it occurred to us
that we might do well
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to give you updates each week,
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the situation is so fluid,
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so dynamic and
has so many changes,
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and so many wrinkles,
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and so many nuances even things
that we forgot to talk about,
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that we thought
we would do well,
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to bring you continual
reports as long as we can
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and as long as
this emergency lasts.
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As things come up,
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as new
information comes to the fore,
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we wanted to make sure
that you're aware of it
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and anything that can
affect your life, your work,
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how you live and what you do
if we can help you with that,
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We wanted to do that.
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So, gentlemen, we
want to sort of launch out,
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pastor, I mean you
got a number of questions.
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I've got a number of questions.
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And we know that the good doctor
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has the answers.
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We pray that He does.
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And perhaps we should invite you
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if you do have
any questions to call,
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you could sent to SUM
TV and leave your question
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because there may be
something in particular
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that troubles
you and that perhaps
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we can help you with.
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So, Pastor
Bohr, what do you got?
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Okay, Dr. Teske,
I have a question.
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You know, you have a
lot of talk on television
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about flattening the curve.
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Yes.
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So the question
is, what does that mean
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flattening the curve
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and how can the
curve be flattened?
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Yeah.
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So if you graph out
on a graph the epidemic
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that's occurring around us now
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what you find in a local
and given area, over time,
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it starts
doubling, doubling, doubling,
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you get the steep curve
that goes way up really high,
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eventually, that doesn't
keep going forever, eventually,
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you run out of people to infect,
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and it comes back down.
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The problem is,
this curve is so high
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up at the high
parts of this curve here,
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up at this one,
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it's an the amount
of people getting sick,
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the amount of people
needing hospitalization,
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the amount of
people needing an ICU,
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the amount of people needing
to be going on ventilators
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far exceeds the number of
hospital beds and ICU beds
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and ventilators available.
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And we've seen evidences
of that in Wuhan in China.
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We've seen that now in Italy.
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And we really don't
want to see it here.
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Although we're starting to
see it down in New Orleans.
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Just recently, it was
number of doubling times out
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from the Mardi Gras
celebration they had there,
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they didn't cancel it,
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they brought in
1.4 million visitors
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from out and
they all congregated
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and partied there for some time.
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And now the results of that
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we're seeing in the
local epidemic there.
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All of these epidemics,
although we look at them
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as a whole nation
or as a whole world,
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they're all local epidemics
that are occurring here,
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there, and wherever.
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You know, the
pandemic component of it,
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the fact that,
yeah, everybody...
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It's spreading everywhere.
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But it's not
spreading everywhere equally.
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The remaining places
here in the Central Valley
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of California right now,
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we've got a few cases in Fresno,
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a couple in
Hanford, just by and large,
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we're still ahead of that curve.
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We haven't gone
up that curve yet.
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And the idea is, we
want to flatten that
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and we don't
want this steep climb,
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we would like to
slow it down, delay it.
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Even if it's
eventually going to get here,
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we would like it to get
here real slow and gradual
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if we could rather than all
over a period of a week or two
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and not have
enough hospital beds
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and ventilators for everybody.
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So if we can slow it down,
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delay it and get
a much more slow,
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gradual rise over time,
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then we're not going to
exceed all of those hospital,
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you know, capacity issues
and ventilator capacity issues.
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And as well as
the longer time goes,
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the more study
they've done when more we know
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which things help and
which things don't help.
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So we think...
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So a follow-up question.
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So when you say that
when the curve reaches
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a certain height,
it starts going down
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because there's no
one else to infect.
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You know, in New York,
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you have like 50,000
or 60,000 people infected
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but there's millions
of people that live there.
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Yes, but that 50,000 that
you're saying are infected
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are the ones
they've actually tested
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and got a positive test on.
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We don't know how many haven't
been tested and still have it.
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Apparently, a
large number of people
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get very minor
illnesses with it.
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And sometimes as much as
30%, some studies are saying
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actually have no symptoms
but yet they're infected
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and spreading the virus.
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And so there's a real problem.
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In other words, it's
spreading through the community
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and much larger numbers
that end up in the hospital,
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it's just that
there's a certain percentage
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that are going to get that sick
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and their life is
going to depend on
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additional respiratory support
or ICU and ventilator support
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to survive this.
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And we'd like to
have enough ventilators
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and ICU beds for everybody.
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But if everybody
gets sick at once,
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there's not going to be...
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Sure.
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In Italy, you
know, I'm hearing stories
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where they're just, they
decide who gets a ventilator
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and who doesn't, you
know, and everyone else,
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they get put in a
room, but they know
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they're going to die
because they're not supplying
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this enough
support to keep them going.
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And we really don't
want to see that here.
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We're not there yet here.
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But we're really pushing it,
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I read a report just yesterday
from an ER doc in New Orleans,
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and they've got every
bed, you know, they're swamped,
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they're in the ER,
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they've got every
bed in the hospital beds,
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they've got additional capacity
hospitals that opened up,
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you know, 50 beds
here, and 50 beds,
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all of those are full already.
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And the curve is still going up,
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they're still shooting up here.
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So hopefully, you know,
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the nation's putting all
their resources into this
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to try to get more supplies,
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make more capacity, you
know, move some patients,
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whatever we can to try
to take care of everybody
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and get everybody
through this, you know?
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Yeah.
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It's one thing that
should be able to bring
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those all together is, you know,
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when people's
lives are on the line,
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what can we do?
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And so what are the
things that flatten that curve,
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what slows it out?
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Well, what slows
the transmission,
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and most places now
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that have any
significant infection,
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we have what we call
Shelter in Place orders,
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it's a type of self-quarantining
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sort of thing, everybody
is supposed to stay home
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and not go around other people
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because you catch
it from other people.
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And so if you don't
go around and socialize
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and congregate in
churches and in sports arenas
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and at schools and
any other public place
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that you don't need
to, we can slow that curve.
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In other words, it's not
going to spread to everybody
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because we're not
meeting at the same frequency.
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And so somebody that has
it isn't going to be meeting
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all of these people, he
might meet one person here
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or something, but
it won't be as many.
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So the more we
can obey these rules
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that they're
putting out these shelters,
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these stay at
home orders, really,
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that's probably the
most important thing
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we can do right
now is to stay at home,
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don't go out and congregate.
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You know, if you
need to get some food
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at the grocery store,
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you know, limit it, go through,
don't congregate with people,
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stay your distance in line.
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And, you know, pass on through
and try not to get infected,
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try not to affect anybody else,
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you don't know you don't have it
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because many people
get no symptoms at all.
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And many people
that do get symptoms
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were probably infected days
before they got their symptoms,
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and we're spreading
it for several days.
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And so, you know,
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do everything you can to
prevent the spread of it.
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That's how we flatten the curve.
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And there's lots
of little strategies
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that health
departments are working on
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and the cities
and state governments
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and the national government
are all putting out trying
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everybody's got
their efforts on this.
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But it's
important that we do that.
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So we, you know,
move it, you know,
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spread it out, space it out.
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So there'll be an ICU
bed when you need one.
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Okay.
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Just to follow up on
Pastor Bohr's question,
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because we see this
bell curve in some areas
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does not necessarily mean
we will see it in every area,
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is that not so?
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The only thing that will keep us
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from seeing it in other
areas is the very things
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we were just talking about,
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these ways to
mitigate it to slow it down,
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to block it back
because it is very infectious
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and it is going to spread.
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People move around, they travel.
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One person gets it
here, pretty soon other...
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And at first it goes slowly
but each, you know, few days,
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when it doubles,
it goes up farther,
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and then you double that
number and it's up to here.
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And so epidemics accelerate
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and it's going
to accelerate here,
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it's going to
accelerate little teeny towns
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in the middle of nowhere.
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You know, if we look back
at the 1918 pandemic, you know,
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that influenza
spread around the world
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and millions died from it,
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while it hits
certain areas first,
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just like right now
it's hitting New York
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and Washington and
New Orleans and LA.
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You know, there it
was hit Philadelphia
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and then it
went to other cities.
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But it eventually
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was wiping out little
villages of Eskimos up and,
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you know, Alaska
and other places.
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It keep
spreading, it keep spreading,
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it only takes one virus
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to somehow get
somewhere that somebody picks up
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and brings back
or somebody brings in
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and then it
spreads through that area.
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It's a very infectious virus.
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And at this point,
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the whole world is
still not resistant,
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there's no
immunity to this virus.
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It's a brand-new virus
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out there that the
world hasn't seen before.
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And it's going to keep spreading
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until everybody gets infected
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and becomes immune or
until we get a vaccine
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that can protect people.
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But until we have
immunity out there,
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it's going to keep doing it.
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It's just a
matter of when it does it
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and how fast it does it
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if there's anything we can
do that will slow that down,
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that'll be real life-saving.
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It doesn't have
to keep going up,
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if we stop the spread,
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we can break that.
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But it's those type of
public health sort of things
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that we do.
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That's what's going
to break that curve,
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that's going to
stop that acceleration.
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You know, I was doing a
little research on this.
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And what I read was that
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in Philadelphia on
September 17, 2018,
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they detected the first case.
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And I'll read,
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they gave a law
against coughing, sneezing,
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and spitting in public.
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But 10 days later,
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they had a parade where
200, 000 people attended.
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Yeah, like New Orleans,
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I found out the hard way
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you can't do
those kind of things.
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And when the
government comes in and says
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all the schools are closed,
all your churches are closed.
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I mean, today,
we've got live streaming,
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we've got video, we,
you know, got the internet,
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we've got all
kinds of ways to not be
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in total social isolation.
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But when you start
congregating together,
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the same thing now,
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as 100 years ago,
it's the same thing.
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So, doctor, social distancing
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really then has to be at
or near the top of the list
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as far as flattening
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as far as trying to keep
the thing from spreading,
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this is not a joke.
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It's not more than notion.
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It's not really...
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No, it really is the one thing
that will break this curve.
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You know,
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we can do our
best to get medications
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to mitigate it.
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So far, we've got
a number of drugs,
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everybody's trying.
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I'm hearing some
reports that they're working,
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I'm hearing other reports that,
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yeah, they're
helping a little bit.
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But, you know,
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now it's not like
boom, magical cure.
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So, you know,
vaccines are coming,
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they're starting
some trials of some,
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but that's all down
the road in the future.
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And until we're there,
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the only tool we've really got
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is these mitigation
methods, this distancing,
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this don't spread
it to somebody else.
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You know,
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I'm really
concerned about this area,
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which is not heavily populated.
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My wife and I
went out this afternoon
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to buy some groceries.
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It's amazing how
many cars are out there,
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how many people are
in places that are open.
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You know, like,
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the home building
companies and supermarkets,
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I mean, traffic
is just as usual.
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Now and it wasn't that way
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when they first
said stay at home,
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now people have a
tendency to slacking off.
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That's so true.
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We noticed right that yesterday.
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Right.
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And because nobody you
know is sick yet, nobody's sick.
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I've got a friend in emergency
physician up in Washington
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who is now very, very sick.
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You know, he picked
it through the ER there.
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But once it starts
spreading through the committee,
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what really slowed
down and got people doing
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the social
license 100 years ago,
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was people got scared
when people just started dying
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all around them and relatives.
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I knew everybody
you knew was dying.
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Then suddenly,
people were scared
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'cause then it's too late.
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It's already everywhere.
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Right, in other words,
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the only way to
make these things work
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is to do them
before it gets bad.
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So here in the
Central Valley of California,
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it's not too late to
get ahead doing this stuff.
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But we've got to
take it seriously
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and start doing it.
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One thing that's been discussed,
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maybe we should
talk about is masks.
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Yeah, that was my
next question, masks.
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Yeah, you know,
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this is the right
spot to think about that,
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you know, when
this first started out,
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the surgeon general
got up and announced that
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you don't need to
worry about wearing a mask
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because it's not going to help.
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And then a couple
of sentences later,
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in that same
announcement, he said,
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"We need to save all the
masks for our healthcare workers
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because they do work."
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And, well, the bottom
line is this virus spreads,
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there's a droplet spread,
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there's probably some
degree of airborne spread.
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Masks do make a difference. Hmm.
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There's
different kinds of masks,
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different degrees of masks.
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But masking is something
that can make a difference.
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We see in Asia,
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you know, in China,
Hong Kong, Singapore,
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South Korea, Japan,
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they're very
extensively using the mask.
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And in some of those places,
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now, they've actually
gotten pretty good control.
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They're
flattening out that curve,
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they're slowing things down.
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You know, it's not gone yet,
00:16:06.43\00:16:07.86
but it's not the
raging, you know, epidemic,
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like we're seeing here
00:16:13.20\00:16:14.54
where things are still climbing.
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There are different kinds,
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there's what they
call an N-95 mask,
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which really filters out
the viruses and everything,
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it makes it tight
seal around there,
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if you put it on right
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and can really be
extremely protective.
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But there's
other degrees of mask,
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there's the typical paper,
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what we call surgical
masks that surgeons use
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in the operating
room all the time.
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And for most cases,
00:16:38.53\00:16:39.86
those are probably
going to be very effective
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in terms of, you know,
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protecting you
from droplet spread.
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And even
they're on the internet,
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you can get the
plans to make them
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out of old t shirts or whatever,
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a lot of different
materials that you can.
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Somebody even did a study
of all the different materials
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and which ones filter how
much and which one's better.
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I think at the top of the
list was the vacuum cleaner bags
00:17:01.45\00:17:06.52
used as a filter material.
00:17:06.55\00:17:09.06
But making these masks
00:17:09.09\00:17:11.69
and so that they seal
around there and stuff
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is a way of protection,
00:17:13.80\00:17:15.53
but probably
more important of them
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protecting yourself
from the other germs
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is they're going to
protect other people from you
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'cause you're not going
to know when you've got it.
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You think you don't have it,
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you think you
haven't been around anybody,
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but so does
everybody else have these...
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You know, in
most of our cases now,
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these community acquired cases,
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well, they
didn't come from China,
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they just came
from downtown somewhere,
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they came from
the grocery store,
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you know, the gas station,
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we don't know
where they came from,
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you know, somebody
you met and talked to.
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And who knows who's got it,
you don't know you've got it.
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And you won't know
until you get symptoms.
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Some of you
won't even get symptoms
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but will continue to spread it.
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If everybody put on a
mask, all of that would stop.
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So where did you get a mask?
00:18:03.01\00:18:04.38
Now that is the challenge.
00:18:04.41\00:18:06.72
And, you know,
00:18:06.75\00:18:08.48
masks were universally available
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at every pharmacy
00:18:10.62\00:18:12.25
and home depot
before this episode.
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Now everybody's
hoarding and buying up.
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You can find
somebody that hoarded some,
00:18:17.29\00:18:18.76
they'll probably got
a lot extra to share.
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There's a lot of
businesses still carry some.
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But you can make your
own out of these cloth.
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I mean, you can wear a bandana,
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you know, there's
some very simple things
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that can be done that
will make a difference.
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And we had a long
conversation just yesterday
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among the health
officers of the various counties
00:18:37.38\00:18:39.95
here in the Central Valley.
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And we're all
seriously considering
00:18:41.88\00:18:44.02
even possibly putting
that out as a mandatory,
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you know, order.
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That's still under discussion.
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We'll make an order
or just a recommendation.
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But we're really to the point
00:18:54.36\00:18:56.33
where we want to
do everything we can
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and things are increasing,
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and we really don't
want it to get out of control
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if we can stop it.
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And here's something
very simple that can be done
00:19:04.14\00:19:06.21
that can help us
keep it under control.
00:19:06.24\00:19:08.14
It can help protect
you and your family.
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So I recommend it
when you're out in public
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to go ahead and use the masks.
00:19:14.85\00:19:18.05
Yeah.
00:19:18.09\00:19:19.42
Doctor, here's something
I've not heard that much about.
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In fact, I think
00:19:22.59\00:19:23.93
the first person I
heard it from was you
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this idea of sense of
smell as being a symptom.
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Yeah.
00:19:32.27\00:19:33.60
Let's have a talk a little
bit about that if you will.
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Yeah.
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So when we think about
00:19:36.37\00:19:37.71
what are the
symptoms of this infection,
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everybody thinks of
fever, headache, body aches,
00:19:39.11\00:19:43.31
you know, all
those flu type things,
00:19:43.35\00:19:45.05
fatigue, runny
nose, you start coughing,
00:19:45.08\00:19:49.92
of course it can
progress to shortness of breath
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and pneumonia and
become more serious.
00:19:53.19\00:19:55.72
But interestingly,
00:19:55.76\00:19:57.09
apparently the
virus as it's going in
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and infecting the nasal
mucosa and the other tissues
00:19:59.23\00:20:02.26
and starting to spread,
00:20:02.30\00:20:04.10
up in your nasal mucosa
00:20:04.13\00:20:05.47
is where all your sensory cells
are for your sense of smell.
00:20:05.50\00:20:09.74
And all these
olfactory nerves goes up
00:20:09.77\00:20:11.87
to the part of your
brain where you send smell.
00:20:11.91\00:20:14.81
And as the virus
attacks the mucosa in that area,
00:20:14.84\00:20:19.05
it's damaging those cells.
00:20:19.08\00:20:21.88
And we find maybe as many
as a third of the patients
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lose their sense of smell.
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They can't smell
even very strong smells,
00:20:27.69\00:20:30.23
you know, you got a chef
and he can't smell curry.
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You know, and I mean,
he can't smell garlic.
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I mean, he's the one...
00:20:36.30\00:20:37.63
You know, these are people
with acute sense of smell,
00:20:37.67\00:20:39.73
they can smell a
dish and tell you exactly
00:20:39.77\00:20:41.50
what herbs and
spices are in there.
00:20:41.54\00:20:43.04
And suddenly, he
can't even tell you
00:20:43.07\00:20:44.77
if there's
garlic in there or not.
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You know, and not
only the sense of food
00:20:47.24\00:20:50.85
but even other noxious sense,
00:20:50.88\00:20:53.21
you know, putrid things
you wouldn't want to smell
00:20:53.25\00:20:56.38
and be around,
00:20:56.42\00:20:57.75
suddenly, you don't smell
those or notice them anymore
00:20:57.79\00:21:00.46
because we've
destroyed those nerves up there
00:21:00.49\00:21:02.82
and damaged them badly.
00:21:02.86\00:21:04.19
And they're just
not the sense of smell,
00:21:04.23\00:21:06.03
which also blunts
your sense of taste
00:21:06.06\00:21:09.53
because much of
taste is actually smelling.
00:21:09.56\00:21:13.64
That's the aroma of the food,
00:21:13.67\00:21:15.10
not just the
various taste sensors
00:21:15.14\00:21:18.81
on your tongue that
are triggering that.
00:21:18.84\00:21:21.21
So suddenly, the
food tastes bland,
00:21:21.24\00:21:23.98
it doesn't have
the flavor it used to
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and you can't smell the
flowers or the perfume anymore.
00:21:26.15\00:21:31.35
That's a real telltale sign
00:21:31.39\00:21:34.49
that, you know, this
virus is in there doing its job.
00:21:34.52\00:21:37.69
And many cases, we see this,
00:21:37.73\00:21:40.16
and they haven't had
the fever or the cough
00:21:40.20\00:21:42.33
or some of those
other things yet.
00:21:42.36\00:21:43.77
So, you know, it's
something to be aware of,
00:21:43.80\00:21:46.07
and to think about
00:21:46.10\00:21:47.44
and something that
give you a cue that,
00:21:47.47\00:21:50.84
"Hey, I'm sick,
00:21:50.87\00:21:52.24
I need to be really
careful and isolated."
00:21:52.27\00:21:54.68
Yeah, I want to ask you
about sanitizing other things.
00:21:54.71\00:22:00.08
No, there's a lot of
talk about washing your hands,
00:22:00.12\00:22:03.35
you know, after
you touch anything,
00:22:03.39\00:22:05.69
but what about
sanitizing products
00:22:05.72\00:22:09.46
that you buy at the supermarket,
00:22:09.49\00:22:11.13
your shoes,
bottom of your shoes,
00:22:11.16\00:22:14.00
when you go into the
house, the doorknobs.
00:22:14.03\00:22:17.60
Certainly things
that you touch regularly
00:22:17.63\00:22:20.97
should be cleaned.
00:22:21.00\00:22:22.40
This virus can stay
for several days on a hard,
00:22:22.44\00:22:25.61
you know, smooth surface.
00:22:25.64\00:22:27.44
And so if someone else
coughed on something and,
00:22:27.48\00:22:31.31
you know, and
they've got it on their hands
00:22:31.35\00:22:33.62
or it's on some product
that you pick up or whatever,
00:22:33.65\00:22:37.32
and then you touch it,
00:22:37.35\00:22:38.69
and now you've
got it on your hands
00:22:38.72\00:22:40.46
and you rub your
nose or your eyes,
00:22:40.49\00:22:41.92
you haven't washed your
hands over and over and over.
00:22:41.96\00:22:44.29
Like we're saying now, we are,
you know, putting yourself up,
00:22:44.33\00:22:48.83
you're getting
infected, and it only takes,
00:22:48.86\00:22:50.87
you know, a few
viruses to get in there
00:22:50.90\00:22:52.70
and get a few cells
00:22:52.73\00:22:54.07
and then they
make thousands of more
00:22:54.10\00:22:55.64
which spread to
the cells by them
00:22:55.67\00:22:57.11
and a few more doubling times,
00:22:57.14\00:22:58.91
now you've got a
cough and a runny nose
00:22:58.94\00:23:00.88
and it can keep going.
00:23:00.91\00:23:02.24
So sanitizing
things in your household,
00:23:02.28\00:23:07.42
particularly
things you're bringing
00:23:07.45\00:23:08.85
into your household,
00:23:08.88\00:23:10.75
whether you're going to sanitize
00:23:10.79\00:23:12.12
the soles of your
shoes and your floors
00:23:12.15\00:23:14.32
that may be going to
step over in the hospitals,
00:23:14.36\00:23:19.33
we are continually
going around and mopping
00:23:19.36\00:23:22.33
and cleaning the
floors with disinfect.
00:23:22.36\00:23:24.30
And so it's
certainly appropriate
00:23:24.33\00:23:27.37
to mop your floors,
00:23:27.40\00:23:28.74
and you know,
keep things cleaned,
00:23:28.77\00:23:30.87
you know, use
disinfectants in your,
00:23:30.91\00:23:33.07
you know, cleaning
solutions and stuff.
00:23:33.11\00:23:35.34
What about the difference
00:23:35.38\00:23:38.28
are the
effectiveness of soap and water
00:23:38.31\00:23:40.92
versus the hand sanitizers
that say 99.99% effective?
00:23:40.95\00:23:46.99
Yeah.
00:23:47.02\00:23:48.79
The bottom line is
00:23:48.82\00:23:50.23
soap and water like
this under running water
00:23:50.26\00:23:53.26
or some soap,
those viruses are gone,
00:23:53.29\00:23:55.66
you've washed them all
away, they say 20 seconds,
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good way to remember that
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if you watch the
front of your hands,
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and then you watch
the back of your hands,
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and then you watch
between your fingers,
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you get that
good rinse that off...
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And by the time you've
gone through that ritual,
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you've got your 20 seconds.
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Your hands are clean.
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The hand
sanitizers, everybody says,
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well, that's second best,
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you know, you're not
by a sink or you're not...
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Well, hand sanitizers.
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You know, 70% alcohol
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is usually enough
to kill the virus.
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You want to make sure
you've got it on everywhere
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and got it on the virus,
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not just a
little bit in the palm,
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you know, the hand,
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but yeah, hand
sanitizers are good,
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but the waters
and soaps are best.
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Excellent.
00:24:35.47\00:24:36.81
I know we're
going to run out of time
00:24:36.84\00:24:38.17
before our
questions were exhausted.
00:24:38.21\00:24:40.54
But you perhaps have heard
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that one of our
conference presidents
00:24:41.94\00:24:43.28
in New York City has
been diagnosed positive.
00:24:43.31\00:24:45.61
I haven't heard that. No.
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That came out just this weekend.
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And one of the
things that were discussing
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was the length of time
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from the time he got his
test till he got his results,
00:24:52.15\00:24:57.93
there was evidently a
protracted period of time.
00:24:57.96\00:25:00.70
I'm told that there
are some new, faster tests
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and ways of getting
the results back fast.
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Right.
00:25:05.63\00:25:06.97
And even the old test,
the ones we've been using,
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don't actually take many days,
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they actually take
several hours to run.
00:25:13.01\00:25:16.14
The problem is we
only had a few machines,
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a little bit of reagent.
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And even when you get,
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then it's got to
be sent to some lab.
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And then it's
in their to-do list
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and eventually,
they're going to get to it
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as soon as they can.
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And so we've had...
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I had a
patient's, a positive test,
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and it came back a week later.
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Well, during that week,
he's been here and there
00:25:33.63\00:25:35.86
and everywhere,
went to another hospital,
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got diagnosed and released.
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And still, now we got a test.
00:25:39.93\00:25:41.27
But now we go back and tell him,
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"No, you're not,
maybe if you do have it,
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and now you got
to quit, you know."
00:25:44.04\00:25:45.44
So it creates a lot of
problems this delay in diagnosis
00:25:45.47\00:25:49.08
or just over the last week,
00:25:49.11\00:25:50.81
they have really
increased the availability.
00:25:50.85\00:25:54.88
Many of these labs now have
00:25:54.92\00:25:56.79
multiple modules on the machine.
00:25:56.82\00:25:58.52
They're running
many more tests per day.
00:25:58.55\00:26:00.86
And there are many
more labs coming online now
00:26:00.89\00:26:03.69
that are doing
that, they're huge.
00:26:03.73\00:26:05.59
The UC system
here in California,
00:26:05.63\00:26:08.26
they've got big
laboratories there
00:26:08.30\00:26:10.67
that can rent
10,000 at a time a day,
00:26:10.70\00:26:13.23
you know, type of thing
is really vamping that up.
00:26:13.27\00:26:16.91
And there are some
instant tests available,
00:26:16.94\00:26:19.01
but you're going to
find when you go to get one
00:26:19.04\00:26:21.74
may not be your doctor happens
00:26:21.78\00:26:23.14
to have an instant
test in his office,
00:26:23.18\00:26:25.31
but they are rolling those out,
00:26:25.35\00:26:26.95
they're making
them by the millions,
00:26:26.98\00:26:28.82
they are going out.
00:26:28.85\00:26:30.19
And over the next week or so,
00:26:30.22\00:26:32.59
we're going to start seeing
00:26:32.62\00:26:33.96
more of those becoming available
00:26:33.99\00:26:36.12
where they can run a
test in a few minutes.
00:26:36.16\00:26:38.99
There's two different
kinds of tests out there.
00:26:39.03\00:26:41.06
One is the test
00:26:41.10\00:26:44.17
that actually
tests for the virus.
00:26:44.20\00:26:46.33
And that's the one
that we've been using
00:26:46.37\00:26:48.24
with the various
swabs and doing that.
00:26:48.27\00:26:50.61
But there is another one
you can do on some blood,
00:26:50.64\00:26:53.54
just a serum sample of blood,
00:26:53.58\00:26:55.44
and you look for the antibodies.
00:26:55.48\00:26:57.08
This is going to
be real important
00:26:57.11\00:26:58.78
as we move ahead
00:26:58.81\00:27:00.38
because for all of you,
00:27:00.42\00:27:02.78
people that
weren't that symptomatic,
00:27:02.82\00:27:04.55
this is going to show
that you were infected
00:27:04.59\00:27:07.66
and that you are indeed immune,
00:27:07.69\00:27:09.96
and so that you're
safe to go back to work,
00:27:09.99\00:27:12.73
you no need to be
afraid of getting it now,
00:27:12.76\00:27:15.33
you've already got
the vaccine and the sense
00:27:15.36\00:27:17.57
you've got the real thing
00:27:17.60\00:27:18.93
and you're now immune to
and you're protected from it.
00:27:18.97\00:27:21.64
And so that's our hope to
see that roll out in that area,
00:27:21.67\00:27:25.07
you know, and really
help us in the tail end of it.
00:27:25.11\00:27:30.08
Pastor Bohr, you
got about 30 seconds
00:27:30.11\00:27:31.85
to take us to the Word
and leave us on a positive.
00:27:31.88\00:27:33.78
Thirty seconds, the next time
00:27:33.82\00:27:35.15
we want to talk
about treatment...
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Okay.
00:27:37.62\00:27:38.95
The effectiveness of treatments,
00:27:38.99\00:27:40.36
one of those is lifestyle.
00:27:40.39\00:27:42.66
And so being that we have
just a very short few seconds,
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I want to read one
verse in the Bible.
00:27:45.33\00:27:48.20
1 Corinthians 10:31,
00:27:48.23\00:27:50.43
which I'm sure
that you know very well.
00:27:50.47\00:27:53.07
It says,
"Therefore whether you eat
00:27:53.10\00:27:55.37
or drink or whatever you do,
00:27:55.40\00:27:58.74
do all to the glory of God."
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Amen.
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Join us again soon
for Coronavirus Report.
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