Hi, my name is John Coaxum. 00:00:01.36\00:00:02.70 Welcome to my barbershop, Cuttin' Loose. 00:00:02.73\00:00:04.27 As you know, the barbershop is one of the last places 00:00:04.30\00:00:06.70 where a guy can keep it real 00:00:06.74\00:00:08.40 and talk freely about his issues. 00:00:08.44\00:00:10.27 Today, we're talking about what men want. 00:00:10.31\00:00:13.01 Come and join us in the shop. 00:00:13.04\00:00:14.38 Yes, we get one back there. 00:00:40.84\00:00:43.30 Good. Good. 00:00:43.34\00:00:45.87 What's up, KP? You like that? Hey, man, looks good, man. 00:00:45.91\00:00:48.28 Looks good. So what's up? What's up? 00:00:48.31\00:00:49.98 All right. 00:00:50.01\00:00:52.18 Yo, so fellas, how's this going today, man? 00:00:52.21\00:00:53.78 What's up? What's up? What's up? 00:00:53.82\00:00:55.15 Good, good, good, good. 00:00:55.18\00:00:56.52 Good, man. Good, good. 00:00:56.55\00:00:57.89 So let me ask this question, man, 00:00:57.92\00:00:59.35 which one of guys is single? 00:00:59.39\00:01:02.32 Mike? I'm single, man. 00:01:02.36\00:01:04.56 Single, no girlfriend or just not married? 00:01:04.59\00:01:06.36 What do you mean? No girlfriend, not married. 00:01:06.39\00:01:08.00 Single totally. No girlfriend, not married. 00:01:08.03\00:01:09.36 Wow, wow, man. 00:01:09.40\00:01:10.73 We all know me, I just got married myself, man, 00:01:10.77\00:01:12.57 took me a while to, 00:01:12.60\00:01:13.94 you know, choose the right one and lay it down, man, 00:01:13.97\00:01:16.14 but I'm happy I did, I really am. 00:01:16.17\00:01:17.97 But, you know, I have so many guys, man, 00:01:18.01\00:01:20.04 that come into the barbershop from time to time. 00:01:20.08\00:01:22.31 And they just have all these preferences, 00:01:22.34\00:01:24.28 they have all these ideals and their goals. 00:01:24.31\00:01:26.31 So I want to ask you guys a couple questions, 00:01:26.35\00:01:27.68 you all right with that? 00:01:27.72\00:01:29.05 Hey, come on. Come on. 00:01:29.08\00:01:30.42 All right, so check this out, check this out. 00:01:30.45\00:01:31.95 You got to answer honestly. 00:01:31.99\00:01:33.32 You have to answer honestly, right? 00:01:33.36\00:01:34.69 Okay. Okay. 00:01:34.72\00:01:36.06 First of all, man, talking about 00:01:36.09\00:01:37.69 what a man wants or what not, weave or no weave? 00:01:37.73\00:01:41.13 No weave. No weave? 00:01:41.16\00:01:43.40 Who says no? I'll go. 00:01:43.43\00:01:46.13 Who says yes? 00:01:46.17\00:01:49.67 I'm kind of want to pass on that. Okay. 00:01:49.70\00:01:51.71 Why you say no? Who says no and why? 00:01:51.74\00:01:53.78 No. 00:01:53.81\00:01:55.14 Number one, 00:01:55.18\00:01:56.51 that's an expensive bill to take. 00:01:56.54\00:01:57.88 Okay. It's expensive. Weave is not cheap. 00:01:57.91\00:01:59.41 All right. 00:01:59.45\00:02:00.78 Number two, you got to pay for them. 00:02:00.82\00:02:03.08 They get the hair done and all that stuff. 00:02:03.12\00:02:04.45 Mercy. 00:02:04.49\00:02:05.82 And you want to see that real hair, right? 00:02:05.85\00:02:07.66 You want the real hair. Right. 00:02:07.69\00:02:09.02 Want the real stuff? 00:02:09.06\00:02:10.39 I don't want the weave and all... 00:02:10.43\00:02:11.76 Yeah. I get that. 00:02:11.79\00:02:13.13 All right. Who else? 00:02:13.16\00:02:14.50 I'm the natural man. 00:02:14.53\00:02:15.86 I like this natural, man, that just give me nice... 00:02:15.90\00:02:17.97 it could be short, it could be long, 00:02:18.00\00:02:19.53 whatever it is just natural, man, 00:02:19.57\00:02:21.90 make it well-cared, make it look good. 00:02:21.94\00:02:24.04 I just like the kind of natural look. 00:02:24.07\00:02:25.41 Well, hold on a second. 00:02:25.44\00:02:26.78 What if she could put it in 00:02:26.81\00:02:28.14 and you don't know it was there? 00:02:28.18\00:02:29.51 Is that good enough for you? 00:02:29.54\00:02:30.88 Yeah, I'm going to know it's there. 00:02:30.91\00:02:33.08 You are an expert. You are expert on that. 00:02:33.11\00:02:35.12 My wife comes home 00:02:35.15\00:02:36.48 and, you know, like a soul winner or somebody... 00:02:36.52\00:02:38.49 Okay. I'm like, "Baby..." 00:02:38.52\00:02:42.06 Okay, all right. 00:02:42.09\00:02:43.43 You're messing around and stick your hand in there 00:02:43.46\00:02:45.23 and you might pull a chunk out. 00:02:45.26\00:02:46.59 Oh, no, man. 00:02:46.63\00:02:47.96 Yeah, Kory, I want know your reflection, man. 00:02:48.00\00:02:49.46 What's up? I'm on the fence, man. 00:02:49.50\00:02:50.83 I'm on the fence. 00:02:50.87\00:02:52.20 I know before I got married, 00:02:52.23\00:02:53.57 I told my wife, no weave, never, 00:02:53.60\00:02:54.97 not trying to hear it. 00:02:55.00\00:02:56.34 But I know, you know, sometimes, 00:02:56.37\00:02:57.94 you know, it can be, it can be nice. 00:02:57.97\00:02:59.57 I know on our wedding day, 00:02:59.61\00:03:00.94 she got a weave, it was real nice, man, 00:03:00.98\00:03:02.31 it really was. 00:03:02.34\00:03:03.68 One of my favorite pictures of her was with the weave, 00:03:03.71\00:03:05.05 I can't lie, and that I know when we travel sometimes 00:03:05.08\00:03:07.52 it's easy, especially when you go away 00:03:07.55\00:03:08.88 for a long time to have baby braids, 00:03:08.92\00:03:10.85 you know, extensions rather than be 00:03:10.89\00:03:12.42 trying to do your hair every day. 00:03:12.45\00:03:13.79 So I mean I'm kind of on the fence. 00:03:13.82\00:03:15.16 Do I like it? No, not necessarily. 00:03:15.19\00:03:17.73 But will I accept it? Yes, yes, I will. 00:03:17.76\00:03:19.93 I noticed this, man, I noticed, you know, a lot of black men, 00:03:19.96\00:03:22.46 they have a lot of preferences, 00:03:22.50\00:03:24.13 and I'm just trying to weed out maybe what's important 00:03:24.17\00:03:26.03 and what's not and what you guys like, 00:03:26.07\00:03:27.44 like let me throw out another one here. 00:03:27.47\00:03:29.07 See what you guys think, be honest with me now. 00:03:29.10\00:03:30.94 Makeup or no makeup? 00:03:30.97\00:03:32.64 No makeup. No makeup. 00:03:32.67\00:03:35.88 Who says no? Who says yes? 00:03:35.91\00:03:37.25 No makeup. None whatsoever. 00:03:37.28\00:03:39.11 Yeah, they have a balance. 00:03:39.15\00:03:40.72 And you can't... 00:03:40.75\00:03:42.08 All right, let's say you're married 00:03:42.12\00:03:43.45 for example, all right? 00:03:43.49\00:03:44.82 You don't want to wake up with your wife 00:03:44.85\00:03:46.19 and feel like you're cheating on her the next day 00:03:46.22\00:03:47.72 'cause she had caked on the makeup. 00:03:47.76\00:03:51.69 You don't want that. Okay. 00:03:51.73\00:03:53.06 There has to be a balance, it has to look natural. 00:03:53.09\00:03:55.13 So in modesty, almost. Absolutely. 00:03:55.16\00:03:57.63 Absolutely, man. 00:03:57.67\00:03:59.00 A little make up is not bad at all. 00:03:59.03\00:04:00.37 So let's say, 00:04:00.40\00:04:01.74 you know, if the barber needs to be painted, 00:04:01.77\00:04:03.10 go ahead and go for it, 00:04:03.14\00:04:04.47 you know, paint that, you know. 00:04:04.51\00:04:05.84 Oh, my. 00:04:05.87\00:04:07.21 It had a negative sense, we're all saying, just no, 00:04:07.24\00:04:08.58 it's not bad. 00:04:08.61\00:04:09.94 Like you said, 00:04:09.98\00:04:11.31 I told if it's natural, if it looks good, 00:04:11.35\00:04:12.68 but not like, you're not a clown, 00:04:12.71\00:04:14.05 by no means, be natural. 00:04:14.08\00:04:15.42 Mike, you're quiet over there. What's up, man? 00:04:15.45\00:04:16.79 For me, for me, no. 00:04:16.82\00:04:18.15 I've always just enjoyed 00:04:18.19\00:04:19.75 and always had a preference for just natural look. 00:04:19.79\00:04:22.39 So for me, I'm not really a huge weave fan, 00:04:22.42\00:04:26.56 I'm not a makeup fan. 00:04:26.59\00:04:28.90 I just like the natural look. 00:04:28.93\00:04:30.27 Now if you put on a lip gloss, that's fine. 00:04:30.30\00:04:32.70 You know, if you have a nice pair 00:04:32.73\00:04:34.07 of glasses that goes, 00:04:34.10\00:04:35.44 you know, if you cut your hair either long, short, 00:04:35.47\00:04:37.21 if some girls, ladies have men's haircuts, 00:04:37.24\00:04:41.01 you know, it just depends on your face and all, 00:04:41.04\00:04:42.51 so I just like the natural look. 00:04:42.54\00:04:44.61 For me, I just don't like this... 00:04:44.65\00:04:46.88 I won't say supernatural or superficial 00:04:46.92\00:04:50.02 but I just don't like a lot of the stuff 00:04:50.05\00:04:52.12 that ladies are doing today. 00:04:52.15\00:04:53.86 So you feel that she's not being herself 00:04:53.89\00:04:55.52 when she adds on. 00:04:55.56\00:04:56.89 Right. That's for me. 00:04:56.93\00:04:58.36 You know, it's not about being yourself, 00:04:58.39\00:04:59.89 you're just nothing better than a woman 00:04:59.93\00:05:01.36 who just rolls out of bed, man, and it is just beautiful. 00:05:01.40\00:05:03.77 Wow. Just the way she is. 00:05:03.80\00:05:05.13 That's just my... 00:05:05.17\00:05:06.50 Yeah, I agree with that. I hear you. I hear you. 00:05:06.53\00:05:08.10 Let me throw one more, at least one more, 00:05:08.14\00:05:09.77 there's so many coming into my mind. 00:05:09.80\00:05:11.34 Jewelry or no jewelry? 00:05:11.37\00:05:12.97 I'm not a jewelry fan. Not a jewelry fan. 00:05:13.01\00:05:14.34 I'm not either. 00:05:14.38\00:05:15.71 You guys, you guys can talk 00:05:15.74\00:05:17.08 about this for whole day, what's up? 00:05:17.11\00:05:18.45 I'm just not... 00:05:18.48\00:05:19.81 It's just something about him. Oh, no. 00:05:19.85\00:05:21.18 Kory, what do you say, man? 00:05:21.22\00:05:22.55 It's like as guys, we... 00:05:22.58\00:05:23.92 I don't know, it's like, 00:05:23.95\00:05:25.29 we just like the natural look sometimes, 00:05:25.32\00:05:26.65 I think women sometimes only get, 00:05:26.69\00:05:28.02 I think sometimes women think 00:05:28.06\00:05:29.39 that they have to put on so much to impress us. 00:05:29.42\00:05:31.79 A lot of times, you know, just the... 00:05:31.83\00:05:33.50 To be honest, which for me, 00:05:33.53\00:05:34.86 the jogging suit, man, my wife put, man, 00:05:34.90\00:05:36.83 had a sexier jogging suit. 00:05:36.87\00:05:38.20 Wow. 00:05:38.23\00:05:39.57 You know, natural, you know what I'm saying, 00:05:39.60\00:05:41.57 not doing too much, you're just being... 00:05:41.60\00:05:43.71 No, it's like I like the confident look, 00:05:43.74\00:05:46.51 you know what I'm saying? 00:05:46.54\00:05:47.88 My wife is confident. 00:05:47.91\00:05:49.24 And when you display confidence 00:05:49.28\00:05:50.61 and that really is an attractive look. 00:05:50.65\00:05:53.48 You're saying that she knows she looks good 00:05:53.52\00:05:55.32 even though she doesn't have 00:05:55.35\00:05:56.69 all of these other things added on. 00:05:56.72\00:05:58.22 That's attractive to you, right? 00:05:58.25\00:05:59.59 Absolutely. 00:05:59.62\00:06:00.96 I will tell you an issue that's going on now 00:06:00.99\00:06:02.56 that seems like a lot of women think less is more, 00:06:02.59\00:06:05.69 you got to leave something for their imagination, 00:06:05.73\00:06:07.23 you know, people aren't... 00:06:07.26\00:06:08.60 Oh, yes. 00:06:08.63\00:06:09.96 You go through... 00:06:10.00\00:06:11.33 You go outside, you see 00:06:11.37\00:06:12.70 these women wearing next to nothing. 00:06:12.73\00:06:14.07 Going to the mall, to the store, to wherever. 00:06:14.10\00:06:16.30 So hold on, you're telling me as a guy, 00:06:16.34\00:06:18.21 as a man you don't like that, 00:06:18.24\00:06:20.08 is that what you guys are telling me? 00:06:20.11\00:06:21.44 Yeah. Nobody wants to marry them. 00:06:21.48\00:06:23.01 Okay. All right. 00:06:23.04\00:06:24.38 Man, you like trying to take that home. 00:06:24.41\00:06:25.75 I think that goes back 00:06:25.78\00:06:27.12 to what you said about confidence, man, 00:06:27.15\00:06:28.48 nothing is sexier than confidence. 00:06:28.52\00:06:29.85 Absolutely. 00:06:29.88\00:06:31.22 You know, when you put on too much, 00:06:31.25\00:06:32.59 when you take off too much, 00:06:32.62\00:06:33.96 it gives off this aura 00:06:33.99\00:06:35.32 of I'm not comfortable with me, I don't like me. 00:06:35.36\00:06:36.99 And if you don't like you, why should I like you. 00:06:37.03\00:06:39.23 You know what I'm saying, but if you know you look 00:06:39.26\00:06:41.06 even though you're bad, you act like you bad. 00:06:41.10\00:06:43.30 And, you know, I'm going to believe you bad too. 00:06:43.33\00:06:44.67 Okay, yeah. 00:06:44.70\00:06:46.03 And then I used to be... 00:06:46.07\00:06:47.40 Like my brother here what he said that 00:06:47.44\00:06:48.77 there needs to be a level of balance 00:06:48.80\00:06:50.14 as well in all things. 00:06:50.17\00:06:51.51 So if you're balancing yourself out 00:06:51.54\00:06:52.87 in your appearance where it's not too gaudy 00:06:52.91\00:06:55.84 or it's not too little, 00:06:55.88\00:06:57.38 you know, you're coming out with all kinds of G-strings 00:06:57.41\00:06:59.51 and no bra and all this stuff, 00:06:59.55\00:07:01.52 and you're trying to attract these, you know... 00:07:01.55\00:07:03.85 Sure, man. 00:07:03.89\00:07:05.49 You know, that's not being real. 00:07:05.52\00:07:06.92 You know, but what happens is you don't leave room 00:07:06.96\00:07:08.72 for the imagination, 00:07:08.76\00:07:10.09 and then you look like you would, 00:07:10.13\00:07:11.46 you know, you know, you look kind of, you know... 00:07:11.49\00:07:14.23 I just get... 00:07:14.26\00:07:15.60 kind of... 00:07:15.63\00:07:16.97 We got it. Yeah, yeah. 00:07:17.00\00:07:18.33 Guys, this is amazing that you're saying this 00:07:18.37\00:07:19.70 because everything in our society right now 00:07:19.73\00:07:21.07 is really telling us the opposite. 00:07:21.10\00:07:22.44 And the every music video that you watch, 00:07:22.47\00:07:24.04 I mean, the girls have on a ton of makeup, 00:07:24.07\00:07:25.94 we know that if they're not photoshopped already, 00:07:25.97\00:07:28.04 they have on a ton of jewelry 00:07:28.08\00:07:29.41 and, you know, they are very scantily clad. 00:07:29.44\00:07:31.65 I mean, why is that? 00:07:31.68\00:07:33.15 And how come you guys are so different, 00:07:33.18\00:07:34.65 I'm trying to figure this out, seriously. 00:07:34.68\00:07:36.02 Well, I mean, it's nice to look at, I guess. 00:07:36.05\00:07:38.92 You know, the way you think about is like this, man. 00:07:38.95\00:07:41.06 If I'm going to afford a McLaren, 00:07:41.09\00:07:43.26 you know, I will buy it, 00:07:43.29\00:07:44.63 but I'm not going to go drive it every day. 00:07:44.66\00:07:46.59 But I'm going to drive it 00:07:46.63\00:07:47.96 and admire because it looks nice. 00:07:48.00\00:07:49.36 But the truth is if I want to drive every day, 00:07:49.40\00:07:51.00 I'm going to get me something that's more, 00:07:51.03\00:07:52.37 you know, reasonable, 00:07:52.40\00:07:53.74 something that's more practical, you know. 00:07:53.77\00:07:55.17 But I may take 00:07:55.20\00:07:56.54 the nice looking car out every now and then. 00:07:56.57\00:07:58.84 But I don't know, it's... 00:07:58.87\00:08:00.21 I don't know, for me, it's like sex sales, right? 00:08:00.24\00:08:02.58 You see in media, 00:08:02.61\00:08:03.95 you're talking about media sex sales, 00:08:03.98\00:08:05.31 and we were and still that within our... 00:08:05.35\00:08:06.98 within women within our culture 00:08:07.02\00:08:08.35 is that you to look a certain way to be accepted. 00:08:08.38\00:08:11.12 Even, you know, especially as far as, 00:08:11.15\00:08:12.72 you know, black society, 00:08:12.75\00:08:14.09 we, you know, we got to have that... 00:08:14.12\00:08:15.46 some guys got to get a long hair, 00:08:15.49\00:08:16.83 got to have jewelry, got to have this and that. 00:08:16.86\00:08:19.06 Where lot of times, 00:08:19.09\00:08:20.43 we really got to go contrary to culture 00:08:20.46\00:08:22.53 or contrary to society rather 00:08:22.56\00:08:24.10 what people always say got to be certain way. 00:08:24.13\00:08:26.50 Again, I think it's sexy 00:08:26.53\00:08:28.44 when someone just absolutely is confident within themselves 00:08:28.47\00:08:32.07 and they know who they are. 00:08:32.11\00:08:33.88 And then that aura comes out from them, 00:08:33.91\00:08:36.04 you could tell a lot of times who's desperate, 00:08:36.08\00:08:37.55 who doesn't have a self-confidence. 00:08:37.58\00:08:38.91 Wow. 00:08:38.95\00:08:40.28 And that's unattractive... 00:08:40.32\00:08:41.65 For me it is. Oh, boy, it's attractive. 00:08:41.68\00:08:43.02 You just do, you want to attract the wrong, 00:08:43.05\00:08:44.59 the wrong kind of people. 00:08:44.62\00:08:45.95 Wow. That's like lust versus love. 00:08:45.99\00:08:48.42 What are you going for, and then on top of that, 00:08:48.46\00:08:50.86 you've got to think about the values that are associated 00:08:50.89\00:08:53.23 with the type of individual 00:08:53.26\00:08:54.60 that would be dressed like that. 00:08:54.63\00:08:56.23 What kind of values are they really holding? 00:08:56.26\00:08:58.40 So a person that or a woman that is scantily clad, 00:08:58.43\00:09:00.84 you can pretty much assume, for the most part, 00:09:00.87\00:09:03.10 what she may be about 00:09:03.14\00:09:04.47 and that may not be something that agrees with you. 00:09:04.51\00:09:05.84 For the most part. 00:09:05.87\00:09:07.21 I heard a comedian say this one time and he said, 00:09:07.24\00:09:09.44 and I'm going to say tastefully. 00:09:09.48\00:09:10.85 Thank you. 00:09:10.88\00:09:12.21 Okay, tastefully and cuttin' loose shop. 00:09:12.25\00:09:16.08 But this comedian said, 00:09:16.12\00:09:17.65 you know, a woman barely dresses, 00:09:17.69\00:09:20.96 she's barely got anything on, 00:09:20.99\00:09:22.62 you know, the guy treats her a certain way, 00:09:22.66\00:09:24.19 talks to a certain way. 00:09:24.23\00:09:25.56 Then she gets mad at the guy and says, 00:09:25.59\00:09:27.33 "Well, why are you talking to me like that? 00:09:27.36\00:09:29.90 I'm just dressed this way." 00:09:29.93\00:09:31.27 So he goes out 00:09:31.30\00:09:32.63 and he put dresses up like a cop 00:09:32.67\00:09:34.34 and she needs somebody to save her. 00:09:34.37\00:09:36.40 And he's just like, 00:09:36.44\00:09:37.77 "Well, why are you coming up to me, 00:09:37.81\00:09:39.44 I'm just dressed this way." 00:09:39.47\00:09:41.21 Like, what do you expect me to do? 00:09:41.24\00:09:42.91 Right. 00:09:42.94\00:09:44.28 I mean, so many black guys, seriously, man, 00:09:44.31\00:09:46.25 I mean, they want the Video Vixen. 00:09:46.28\00:09:48.05 I mean, they want the woman that dresses scantily clad. 00:09:48.08\00:09:50.89 I mean, it appears that way to me, 00:09:50.92\00:09:52.82 I don't know why that is. 00:09:52.85\00:09:54.19 Yeah, but here's the issue though, 00:09:54.22\00:09:55.86 the issue is that while 00:09:55.89\00:09:57.23 we may look at what my brother said is the media 00:09:57.26\00:10:00.36 and the scantily dressed, and the sex sells, 00:10:00.40\00:10:05.27 when all that starts to go away, 00:10:05.30\00:10:08.37 and when you bring that woman home 00:10:08.40\00:10:10.27 and now she has to take care of house, home, child, 00:10:10.31\00:10:12.84 and have motherly responsibility 00:10:12.87\00:10:15.34 and a wife responsibility, 00:10:15.38\00:10:17.55 you know, all of that stuff doesn't mean anything 00:10:17.58\00:10:20.05 because, yes, in the bedroom she's all fine 00:10:20.08\00:10:22.52 and she's all this and she looks 00:10:22.55\00:10:23.89 and smells all good, but at the end of the day, 00:10:23.92\00:10:26.22 if you want a meaningful relationship 00:10:26.25\00:10:28.72 and you want someone that is that you can trust 00:10:28.76\00:10:30.86 with your children and trust with finances and not... 00:10:30.89\00:10:35.46 For example, but, you know, you have those finances 00:10:35.50\00:10:38.13 and then she's more focused with those finances on hair 00:10:38.17\00:10:41.27 and nails and this and that and the bills aren't paid, 00:10:41.30\00:10:44.14 now you have a person 00:10:44.17\00:10:45.51 who is more concerned about superficial image 00:10:45.54\00:10:48.11 and putting on the mask 00:10:48.14\00:10:49.81 than taking care of her responsibilities at home. 00:10:49.84\00:10:51.68 And not only... 00:10:51.71\00:10:53.05 I'm sorry. Yeah, go ahead. 00:10:53.08\00:10:54.42 Not only that, but that goes to the woman 00:10:54.45\00:10:57.22 that's going to be taking off the eyelashes, 00:10:57.25\00:10:59.15 taking off the wig, and the nails and the makeup, 00:10:59.19\00:11:03.02 and they're going be 00:11:03.06\00:11:04.39 with a totally different person that you ever... 00:11:04.43\00:11:05.83 Yeah, I've heard that story so many times. 00:11:05.86\00:11:07.66 You know, I married this beautiful woman 00:11:07.70\00:11:09.83 and when they finally get home on the wedding night, 00:11:09.86\00:11:11.83 I mean she's taken off all this stuff 00:11:11.87\00:11:13.20 and he literally does not recognize his wife 00:11:13.23\00:11:15.07 when she comes out of the room. 00:11:15.10\00:11:16.44 You know, that's really sad... Totally different person. 00:11:16.47\00:11:17.81 I was going to say 00:11:17.84\00:11:19.17 the same thing on the internet now, 00:11:19.21\00:11:20.54 you see the pictures of stories 00:11:20.58\00:11:21.91 just like that before and after, 00:11:21.94\00:11:23.28 and you're like who is that, 00:11:23.31\00:11:24.65 I mean, I couldn't deal 00:11:24.68\00:11:26.01 with that kind of stuff at all, man. 00:11:26.05\00:11:27.38 Yeah, absolutely. 00:11:27.42\00:11:28.75 So you think guys, 00:11:28.78\00:11:30.12 I mean guys really in their heart of hearts, 00:11:30.15\00:11:31.49 they want the complete package, they just don't want a girl 00:11:31.52\00:11:32.85 who is good looking on the exterior, 00:11:32.89\00:11:34.36 they want everything that comes with it, right? 00:11:34.39\00:11:36.12 Yeah, I think so. There's no doubt about it. 00:11:36.16\00:11:37.79 I think that, especially with young girls, right, 00:11:37.83\00:11:40.26 because we got to train our young girls 00:11:40.30\00:11:42.53 on how to dress and how to be confident 00:11:42.56\00:11:45.27 and how to be able to go about themselves as a woman. 00:11:45.30\00:11:48.24 And as men, I think we have a responsibility 00:11:48.27\00:11:50.34 as well to teach that. 00:11:50.37\00:11:51.71 And I think that, especially like my wife 00:11:51.74\00:11:53.81 she should model that for other women as well. 00:11:53.84\00:11:56.61 So people can look and say, 00:11:56.64\00:11:57.98 "Man, you know, that's what a virtuous woman looks like." 00:11:58.01\00:12:01.65 Yeah, one of things I actually agree with you 00:12:01.68\00:12:03.18 is that when all that superficial thing, 00:12:03.22\00:12:05.49 those things are gone, 00:12:05.52\00:12:07.86 you know, when you take off the weave, 00:12:07.89\00:12:09.22 when everything is all gone, 00:12:09.26\00:12:10.59 you want someone that comes home 00:12:10.63\00:12:11.96 and is able to take care of the home 00:12:11.99\00:12:14.03 and to stand by her man. 00:12:14.06\00:12:15.66 And I think in the black community, 00:12:15.70\00:12:17.07 you need men that are men in the home, 00:12:17.10\00:12:19.73 that are the leaders of the home 00:12:19.77\00:12:21.24 that have a wonderful wife 00:12:21.27\00:12:22.60 that stands next to them and take care of the house home 00:12:22.64\00:12:25.11 and family. 00:12:25.14\00:12:26.47 Okay, that's fair, that's fair. 00:12:26.51\00:12:27.84 Let me throw another one to you, guys. 00:12:27.88\00:12:29.21 You ready? Yeah, yeah. 00:12:29.24\00:12:30.85 So, well, I'm from the south, man, 00:12:30.88\00:12:32.21 one of the biggest things, 00:12:32.25\00:12:33.58 it's kind of like an unwritten rule 00:12:33.62\00:12:34.95 for women, so to speak, 00:12:34.98\00:12:36.32 is that every girl must know how to cook, and most guys, 00:12:36.35\00:12:40.39 they choose for a wife, a woman who can cook 00:12:40.42\00:12:43.19 and if they don't, it's like a deal breaker for them. 00:12:43.22\00:12:45.79 How do you guys feel about that? 00:12:45.83\00:12:47.16 Is that a deal breaker for you if they can cook or not? 00:12:47.20\00:12:49.60 Deal breaker for me. Whoa! 00:12:49.63\00:12:52.03 Can you help me? Just help me. 00:12:52.07\00:12:53.57 What do you mean by it? I can cook. 00:12:53.60\00:12:55.37 I mean, I dabble, 00:12:55.40\00:12:56.74 and as I learn how to get better. 00:12:56.77\00:12:58.91 But I believe that a woman should know 00:12:58.94\00:13:03.28 how to cook to take care 00:13:03.31\00:13:04.68 because here's one thing I've learned in my life, 00:13:04.71\00:13:07.12 there are times 00:13:07.15\00:13:08.48 when I am not disciplined in my own health 00:13:08.52\00:13:11.59 and in my own way of cooking. 00:13:11.62\00:13:13.42 And so I'll eat too much of something 00:13:13.46\00:13:15.19 or I'll eat something else, and it ends up being unhealthy. 00:13:15.22\00:13:18.69 If a woman who wants to take care of a man knows 00:13:18.73\00:13:20.96 how to cook, she will be able to know, 00:13:21.00\00:13:23.06 "Honey, you put on a little bit too much weight, 00:13:23.10\00:13:24.43 let me add more salad." 00:13:24.47\00:13:25.80 Hold on. 00:13:25.83\00:13:27.17 You wanted to cook, 00:13:27.20\00:13:28.54 you wanted to cook for accountability for you? 00:13:28.57\00:13:30.04 Well, I mean, not necessarily accountability, 00:13:30.07\00:13:34.28 not necessarily accountability, 00:13:34.31\00:13:35.64 but I just think that now I'm saying 00:13:35.68\00:13:37.41 that there's a shared responsibility, certainly, yes. 00:13:37.45\00:13:40.05 But I think for me, 00:13:40.08\00:13:41.52 that it shows that a woman knows 00:13:41.55\00:13:43.79 how to take care of the entire house 00:13:43.82\00:13:46.02 whether by cooking, whether by washing clothes, 00:13:46.05\00:13:48.16 whether by the children rearing, 00:13:48.19\00:13:49.76 all of that, and so there's a balance 00:13:49.79\00:13:51.83 of your responsibilities as a wife. 00:13:51.86\00:13:53.93 And cooking should be, in my estimation, one of them. 00:13:53.96\00:13:57.33 I'm not saying that I can't cook, 00:13:57.37\00:13:59.57 I'm saying that it should be a part of your wife 00:13:59.60\00:14:02.20 responsibilities in balance. 00:14:02.24\00:14:04.67 Be careful. 00:14:04.71\00:14:06.78 That's your personal preference. 00:14:06.81\00:14:08.14 Yeah, personal preference. Okay, who doesn't care? 00:14:08.18\00:14:11.68 I don't care at all. 00:14:11.71\00:14:13.05 I don't care at all. Why not? 00:14:13.08\00:14:14.82 Like you said you're from the south, 00:14:14.85\00:14:16.18 and I think it's the north thing, 00:14:16.22\00:14:17.55 you know what I'm saying. 00:14:17.59\00:14:19.25 My wife, we first got married, she wasn't the greatest cook, 00:14:19.29\00:14:21.42 you know what I'm saying, 00:14:21.46\00:14:22.79 but, you know, we both struggled together 00:14:22.82\00:14:24.76 and now, you know, I haven't lost any weight. 00:14:24.79\00:14:27.40 So you're still eating good? I'm still eating good. 00:14:27.43\00:14:28.96 She's done a phenomenal, she does the phenomenal job. 00:14:29.00\00:14:31.10 But here's the thing now that now that she cooks, 00:14:31.13\00:14:33.17 I also cook as well 00:14:33.20\00:14:34.54 because of the share responsibilities, 00:14:34.57\00:14:36.20 you know, we both are busy, we both are professional. 00:14:36.24\00:14:38.04 So I can't just say at home like, 00:14:38.07\00:14:39.91 "Okay, I'm going to wait for her 00:14:39.94\00:14:41.28 to get home and make her man a meal." 00:14:41.31\00:14:44.21 No, I'm going to kitchen. 00:14:44.25\00:14:45.58 Get pasta pans out, put stuff together, 00:14:45.61\00:14:47.88 and I'm going to fix the meal for the family as well 00:14:47.92\00:14:50.25 'cause I'm man enough to do it. 00:14:50.29\00:14:51.62 Come on, doc. 00:14:51.65\00:14:54.19 Now, Kory, I know you like to make, 00:14:54.22\00:14:55.82 and you got a little Jamaican in your blood. 00:14:55.86\00:14:57.19 I know you can burn, man. 00:14:57.23\00:14:58.56 So how do you feel about it? It's definitely cultural, man. 00:14:58.59\00:15:00.16 I know when I met my wife... 00:15:00.20\00:15:01.53 Well, first of all, you know, in the Caribbean, 00:15:01.56\00:15:03.37 men do the cooking. 00:15:03.40\00:15:04.73 If you go to a Jamaica restaurant, 00:15:04.77\00:15:06.13 there's no women in the back cooking, 00:15:06.17\00:15:07.50 it's men back there. 00:15:07.54\00:15:08.87 You know, so it's kind of expected 00:15:08.90\00:15:10.24 I was going to cook, 00:15:10.27\00:15:11.61 I didn't really expect it from my wife. 00:15:11.64\00:15:12.97 But the truth is, man, since we've been married, 00:15:13.01\00:15:14.34 she's been cooking more than I have. 00:15:14.38\00:15:16.04 Now I definitely, I'm not disappointed. 00:15:16.08\00:15:18.28 You know, but definitely in our culture, 00:15:18.31\00:15:20.88 you know, I would be the one cooking. 00:15:20.92\00:15:22.25 I know my father even to this day, 00:15:22.28\00:15:23.62 when I tell what my mother's good taste in food, he laughs, 00:15:23.65\00:15:26.62 he's like, "Man, your mother can't cook, man, 00:15:26.65\00:15:28.16 you know, I did all the cooking." 00:15:28.19\00:15:29.89 You know, definitely in our culture, 00:15:29.92\00:15:31.29 the men cook, so... 00:15:31.33\00:15:32.76 I mean, for me, I can definitely speak to this. 00:15:32.79\00:15:34.46 My wife is an excellent cook, man. 00:15:34.50\00:15:36.53 I really think she could be on, 00:15:36.56\00:15:37.90 you know, one of those food cooking channels 00:15:37.93\00:15:39.67 if she wanted to. 00:15:39.70\00:15:41.04 But that's not the reason I married her, 00:15:41.07\00:15:42.40 I married her for so many different reasons 00:15:42.44\00:15:43.77 but that just happened to be a bonus, 00:15:43.81\00:15:45.54 you know, one of those things. 00:15:45.57\00:15:46.91 But let me throw out one more, y'all ready? 00:15:46.94\00:15:48.28 There's so many coming to me, guys. 00:15:48.31\00:15:49.64 I'm sorry, I got to give it to you. 00:15:49.68\00:15:51.11 What if she does not have a career or a job right now? 00:15:51.15\00:15:55.28 Is that a deal breaker for you? 00:15:55.32\00:15:56.65 No. No. 00:15:56.69\00:15:58.02 Not a deal breaker. For nobody? Why not? 00:15:58.05\00:16:00.66 Because you're going to be the primary breadwinner, 00:16:00.69\00:16:02.02 you're going to be good. 00:16:02.06\00:16:03.39 No, not necessarily. 00:16:03.43\00:16:04.76 I think that when you start quoting and dating 00:16:04.79\00:16:07.96 and you decide on the future, 00:16:08.00\00:16:10.27 any one of us can work or not work. 00:16:10.30\00:16:14.00 You know, if there's a need as we have more children, 00:16:14.04\00:16:16.74 bigger house, car, whatever that both of us need 00:16:16.77\00:16:19.07 to have a dual income 00:16:19.11\00:16:20.44 and be able to come in, then no problem. 00:16:20.48\00:16:22.18 If she chooses not to work and et cetera, 00:16:22.21\00:16:24.45 then that's not a problem for me either. 00:16:24.48\00:16:27.28 I actually would prefer a professional woman, 00:16:27.32\00:16:30.35 I do, I prefer someone who is a doctor, lawyer, 00:16:30.39\00:16:33.25 and she's a MSW, 00:16:33.29\00:16:34.62 or someone like that that does a professional, 00:16:34.66\00:16:36.93 you know, professional job. 00:16:36.96\00:16:38.29 Why is that? I don't know. 00:16:38.33\00:16:41.80 I just think that... 00:16:41.83\00:16:45.23 It's your preference, your preference. 00:16:45.27\00:16:46.90 But I also think that for me personally, 00:16:46.94\00:16:51.14 I just always enjoyed someone that compliments me. 00:16:51.17\00:16:54.54 You know, someone 00:16:54.58\00:16:55.91 who is at the level of education 00:16:55.94\00:16:58.68 and the level of professionalism 00:16:58.71\00:17:00.05 that I am where we add 00:17:00.08\00:17:02.35 to each other's profession, you know? 00:17:02.38\00:17:04.32 I always said, man, 00:17:04.35\00:17:06.15 I don't care if you can't find a job, 00:17:06.19\00:17:07.52 you're going to work somewhere, 00:17:07.56\00:17:08.89 even if you got to go barber store, right? 00:17:08.92\00:17:10.93 Man, the truth is life happens, man. 00:17:10.96\00:17:12.29 That's right. 00:17:12.33\00:17:13.66 You know, especially the time we're living in, 00:17:13.70\00:17:15.03 jobs just don't come as easy as they used to. 00:17:15.06\00:17:16.97 You have all the degrees, all the experience, 00:17:17.00\00:17:19.17 if you can't, if you don't know people sometimes, 00:17:19.20\00:17:21.00 you can't get a job. 00:17:21.04\00:17:22.37 So nowadays, if you can't work as long as, 00:17:22.40\00:17:24.41 you know,you can make me happy and you don't drive me crazy 00:17:24.44\00:17:26.78 if you stay home, they work okay. 00:17:26.81\00:17:28.68 Yeah, for me, it's not a deal breaker at all, man, 00:17:28.71\00:17:30.45 I couldn't care less. 00:17:30.48\00:17:31.81 I mean, you know, it didn't matter then, 00:17:31.85\00:17:33.58 it doesn't matter now. 00:17:33.62\00:17:34.95 And like you said, I think you made a good point, 00:17:34.98\00:17:36.45 life happens to everybody. 00:17:36.48\00:17:38.19 And so if you're basing, 00:17:38.22\00:17:39.55 you know, the woman that you want to be 00:17:39.59\00:17:40.92 with based on her career or her job, 00:17:40.96\00:17:42.62 what happens if she loses? 00:17:42.66\00:17:43.99 Yeah, for instance, that's my point. 00:17:44.03\00:17:46.26 My wife with our second child, 00:17:46.29\00:17:48.76 she went into pre-term labor which meant that, 00:17:48.80\00:17:52.80 you know, she had to quit her job. 00:17:52.83\00:17:54.90 Basically, she's on bed rest for three months. 00:17:54.94\00:17:58.04 And for three months, you know what I'm saying, 00:17:58.07\00:18:01.58 I did everything in the house, cooked, cleaned, ironed. 00:18:01.61\00:18:05.35 Took her to Kia's did everything 00:18:05.38\00:18:07.42 because you see that life happens. 00:18:07.45\00:18:08.98 So you can't just get stuck in your head thinking, 00:18:09.02\00:18:10.69 "Okay, they have to do this and that." 00:18:10.72\00:18:12.59 And they'll be disappointed when life throws a curve ball 00:18:12.62\00:18:16.39 and you can't take care of your expectations. 00:18:16.42\00:18:19.59 But I think you said also take into consideration 00:18:19.63\00:18:21.76 the trajectory like how long have 00:18:21.80\00:18:24.37 they been on employee like 00:18:24.40\00:18:25.73 if you have a stay at home wife, you know... 00:18:25.77\00:18:29.57 Really bad. Come on, come on. 00:18:29.60\00:18:31.14 If you have a stay at home wife, okay, 00:18:31.17\00:18:33.58 you know, that' a decision that you guys made or whatever, 00:18:33.61\00:18:36.08 and that's fine. 00:18:36.11\00:18:37.45 But if she's been unemployed since forever 00:18:37.48\00:18:41.22 and doesn't want to work or doesn't do anything... 00:18:41.25\00:18:44.02 Going back, I mean, even with the cooking thing, 00:18:44.05\00:18:46.32 like, it's a will, if she has the will like say 00:18:46.35\00:18:49.52 she doesn't have the skill or she can't cook, 00:18:49.56\00:18:51.66 but she has the desire to learn 00:18:51.69\00:18:53.63 because she wants to please her man, 00:18:53.66\00:18:55.20 make her man happy, that's great. 00:18:55.23\00:18:57.10 We could work with that. Right, right, right. 00:18:57.13\00:18:58.53 But if you... 00:18:58.57\00:18:59.90 I mean, if she can cook, if she could throw down 00:18:59.93\00:19:02.00 and she never cooks, how... 00:19:02.04\00:19:05.01 That doesn't, you know... 00:19:05.04\00:19:06.37 That's a waste of talent. That's a waste of talent. 00:19:06.41\00:19:08.28 Somebody is being real honest today. 00:19:08.31\00:19:10.28 Well, let me say this, man, 00:19:10.31\00:19:11.65 I think everybody has a lot of different preferences 00:19:11.68\00:19:13.58 when it comes to women. 00:19:13.62\00:19:14.95 And you can't just ask the question of what men want 00:19:14.98\00:19:17.05 because it varies based on culture, 00:19:17.09\00:19:19.55 geographical location, maybe even religion. 00:19:19.59\00:19:22.02 But I was wondering today, 00:19:22.06\00:19:23.83 you know, does the Bible give us any answers 00:19:23.86\00:19:26.33 on what we should be looking for in a woman as men? 00:19:26.36\00:19:29.46 What should we be looking for or are there 00:19:29.50\00:19:31.17 any examples of good women in the Bible 00:19:31.20\00:19:33.30 that we can find today in our society? 00:19:33.34\00:19:36.30 Well, I studied that the Bible talks about in Proverbs 31, 00:19:36.34\00:19:38.41 this whole concept of a virtuous woman. 00:19:38.44\00:19:40.78 And the concept in Proverbs 31 was of a woman 00:19:40.81\00:19:43.95 who was a hard worker, 00:19:43.98\00:19:45.78 who took care of family, took care of the kids, 00:19:45.81\00:19:49.22 was able to do anything everything 00:19:49.25\00:19:51.15 and really not even to depend upon a man. 00:19:51.19\00:19:53.46 I mean, she was able to do every single thing in the home. 00:19:53.49\00:19:56.22 And I think that's a good example 00:19:56.26\00:19:58.29 for our time that we're living as well right now 00:19:58.33\00:19:59.66 that the woman, 00:19:59.69\00:20:01.03 you know, should not even depended upon the man. 00:20:01.06\00:20:03.30 And the man should not be depended upon the woman, 00:20:03.33\00:20:05.37 you know, it's a union together 00:20:05.40\00:20:08.44 where you're getting things done together. 00:20:08.47\00:20:10.24 All right, you made a very good point. 00:20:10.27\00:20:12.27 Well, you said a word, a virtuous woman. 00:20:12.31\00:20:14.14 Yeah, yeah. 00:20:14.18\00:20:15.51 I've always wonder people throw 00:20:15.54\00:20:16.88 that word out there all the time. 00:20:16.91\00:20:18.25 What is a virtuous woman, guys? 00:20:18.28\00:20:20.12 I'll only define maybe one or two points of a virtuous, 00:20:20.15\00:20:22.68 I mean, I think virtuous encompasses 00:20:22.72\00:20:24.35 so many characteristics. 00:20:24.39\00:20:26.05 And my definition of a virtuous one or two would be someone 00:20:26.09\00:20:29.02 who was a helpmeet and someone who was a support to her man, 00:20:29.06\00:20:32.83 to her husband. 00:20:32.86\00:20:34.20 And so the first component of that 00:20:34.23\00:20:36.06 is that when you now become my wife, 00:20:36.10\00:20:40.17 number one, you have completed me 00:20:40.20\00:20:42.60 and number two, we now become one. 00:20:42.64\00:20:44.91 And so where I may fall short, 00:20:44.94\00:20:46.64 where I may have some flaws or I have some issues, 00:20:46.68\00:20:49.74 you are the one that comes in 00:20:49.78\00:20:51.41 and balances me out and supports me and sets me up. 00:20:51.45\00:20:54.78 And also, as my brother said, 00:20:54.82\00:20:56.89 puts me towards a future 00:20:56.92\00:20:58.72 and forward trajectory that says 00:20:58.75\00:21:00.82 that we are both progressing forward to God's own will. 00:21:00.86\00:21:04.56 And while we're progressing, 00:21:04.59\00:21:05.93 we are also within God an example to so many others, 00:21:05.96\00:21:09.36 an example to both our children, 00:21:09.40\00:21:11.23 an example to society and the community. 00:21:11.27\00:21:13.47 Sure. Anybody? Yeah, yeah, virtuous. 00:21:13.50\00:21:14.94 At the end of the day, 00:21:14.97\00:21:16.30 I would define virtuous this way, 00:21:16.34\00:21:17.67 I would say a woman who's just real, just genuine. 00:21:17.71\00:21:21.24 You know, I got married, man, 00:21:21.28\00:21:22.81 and the bottom line is it didn't matter 00:21:22.84\00:21:24.51 if you can cook, didn't matter what my expectations are, 00:21:24.55\00:21:27.05 once we get married, we're married. 00:21:27.08\00:21:28.92 So you need a woman 00:21:28.95\00:21:30.29 who's real, who's going to be like, 00:21:30.32\00:21:31.65 "Now I'm ready to do the work. 00:21:31.69\00:21:33.02 Whatever comes up, whatever happens." 00:21:33.05\00:21:34.39 Remember, even with the children, 00:21:34.42\00:21:36.09 you know, pre-term labor, anything can happen, man. 00:21:36.12\00:21:38.53 Pre-term is not even remotely close 00:21:38.56\00:21:40.26 to like some of the things we know people struggle with. 00:21:40.30\00:21:42.43 We've got to be man to woman who's ready to do the work. 00:21:42.46\00:21:44.47 You know, who's going to say, man, 00:21:44.50\00:21:45.83 "No matter what happens 00:21:45.87\00:21:47.20 we're going to struggle through it together." 00:21:47.24\00:21:48.57 If I got to learn to cook, I learn to cook, 00:21:48.60\00:21:49.94 if I get two jobs, I get two jobs, 00:21:49.97\00:21:51.57 whatever it takes to make our marriage work, you know? 00:21:51.61\00:21:54.08 So even some of the stuff that we as men, 00:21:54.11\00:21:56.21 we just would be real, 00:21:56.24\00:21:57.58 you know, our "preferences" at the end of the day, 00:21:57.61\00:21:59.51 those preferences are gone out of the window, man. 00:21:59.55\00:22:02.18 And everything I've said so far is said that, I felt this way, 00:22:02.22\00:22:05.02 but I mean I got married, I'm like... 00:22:05.05\00:22:07.62 it's okay. It changed. 00:22:07.66\00:22:08.99 Okay. Yeah. Yeah. 00:22:09.02\00:22:10.36 So virtuous, man, 00:22:10.39\00:22:11.73 anybody else want to take a stab at that? 00:22:11.76\00:22:13.09 I'm really... 00:22:13.13\00:22:14.46 Well, let me ask it this way, does it mean perfect? 00:22:14.50\00:22:17.20 No. Not at all. 00:22:17.23\00:22:18.67 Are you sure? Not at all. 00:22:18.70\00:22:20.14 I mean because if you look at Proverbs 31, 00:22:20.17\00:22:22.40 I've read it a few times, it seems to be saying 00:22:22.44\00:22:24.67 that this woman is practically perfect. 00:22:24.71\00:22:27.01 She got to go out. She got to go on her own, man. 00:22:27.04\00:22:28.71 Okay. 00:22:31.88\00:22:33.21 The whole thing of virtuous as well, 00:22:33.25\00:22:34.72 virtuous woman is that she has virtue. 00:22:34.75\00:22:36.75 I mean, that's the part, she has virtue, she has purity, 00:22:36.79\00:22:39.45 she has self-confidence, she has a go get her attitude, 00:22:39.49\00:22:43.53 she has a good head on her shoulders. 00:22:43.56\00:22:45.96 I mean, she is clear about what needs to be done, 00:22:45.99\00:22:48.60 and she gets the job done. 00:22:48.63\00:22:50.97 I think that's probably what virtuous means as well. 00:22:51.00\00:22:52.73 Do you think that, man, we as guys sometimes, 00:22:52.77\00:22:56.34 we make girls feel bad for not being perfect. 00:22:56.37\00:22:59.34 And I want to say this way, especially, Christian guys, 00:22:59.37\00:23:02.38 we hold up the standard of Proverbs 31, 00:23:02.41\00:23:05.15 and we say every woman has got to meet this standard 00:23:05.18\00:23:08.05 but more often than not, it seems like 00:23:08.08\00:23:09.78 we as guys don't meet this godly standard 00:23:09.82\00:23:12.55 that God has given us. 00:23:12.59\00:23:13.92 Do we put girls down in anyway? Absolutely. 00:23:13.96\00:23:15.89 How so? 00:23:15.92\00:23:17.26 Well, I mean, I'll just put it this way, 00:23:17.29\00:23:18.89 relationship in general for me 00:23:18.93\00:23:20.46 is all about marriage and expectations. 00:23:20.50\00:23:22.43 And I think we come to the table 00:23:22.46\00:23:23.80 with just unrealistic expectations. 00:23:23.83\00:23:25.53 So if you set the bar extremely high, 00:23:25.57\00:23:27.54 you're going to fail every time, 00:23:27.57\00:23:28.90 which is probably why 00:23:28.94\00:23:30.27 in our world people get divorced 00:23:30.31\00:23:31.64 every other day 00:23:31.67\00:23:33.01 because they've got expectations 00:23:33.04\00:23:34.38 that are not realistic. 00:23:34.41\00:23:35.74 One of the things my wife and I had to deal 00:23:35.78\00:23:37.11 was we had sit down, and I said, 00:23:37.15\00:23:38.48 "Man, what do you want from me? 00:23:38.51\00:23:39.85 What do you expect from me?" 00:23:39.88\00:23:41.22 And I can go through that list, and I tell her straight up, 00:23:41.25\00:23:42.58 "This ain't happening. 00:23:42.62\00:23:43.95 This is not going to happen. 00:23:43.99\00:23:45.32 These over here, I can get what you wanted." 00:23:45.35\00:23:47.52 She can do the same thing with me, you know. 00:23:47.56\00:23:49.49 Mike, what do you think? 00:23:49.52\00:23:50.86 For me, I think I want someone that's, 00:23:50.89\00:23:53.09 like my brother said is real and transparent. 00:23:53.13\00:23:55.66 Oftentimes, in the relationship, 00:23:55.70\00:23:57.57 especially at the beginning stages, 00:23:57.60\00:23:58.97 we put on masks, 00:23:59.00\00:24:01.00 we try to act the best and do the best 00:24:01.04\00:24:04.61 because we really don't know each other, 00:24:04.64\00:24:05.97 right, we're just meeting. 00:24:06.01\00:24:07.91 And so you don't know my flaws and my habits, 00:24:07.94\00:24:09.68 I don't know your flaws and habits. 00:24:09.71\00:24:11.05 I don't know your past, you don't know my past. 00:24:11.08\00:24:12.95 And as the courtship goes on, as the dating goes on, 00:24:12.98\00:24:15.75 as that we hope the mask falls off then... 00:24:15.78\00:24:18.62 The weave falls off. 00:24:18.65\00:24:20.69 Mask falls off... 00:24:20.72\00:24:22.06 Yeah. 00:24:22.09\00:24:23.43 What usually happens is now 00:24:23.46\00:24:24.79 you get to know the real person, 00:24:24.83\00:24:26.16 and that real person, 00:24:26.19\00:24:27.53 when you both know the real deal holy feel, 00:24:27.56\00:24:31.13 the real person of who you're now depending on 00:24:31.17\00:24:35.10 and desiring to spend the rest of your life with, 00:24:35.14\00:24:37.67 then you won't have any issues of, you know, "I didn't know. 00:24:37.71\00:24:41.01 And well, this is new." 00:24:41.04\00:24:42.38 And, you know, "I didn't know this about you before," 00:24:42.41\00:24:46.31 and all of that. 00:24:46.35\00:24:47.68 And so what happens is you now focus on moving forward, 00:24:47.72\00:24:51.75 being transparent with each other, 00:24:51.79\00:24:53.76 and being real and honest. 00:24:53.79\00:24:56.09 Yeah, I don't want to go into a marriage, 00:24:56.12\00:24:57.83 and I have not been honest, and you have not been honest, 00:24:57.86\00:25:00.43 and then you have divorce. 00:25:00.46\00:25:02.90 The high divorce rate is not based on 00:25:02.93\00:25:04.63 just how being divorced, 00:25:04.67\00:25:06.00 the high divorce rate is that you being fake. 00:25:06.03\00:25:07.70 Right. 00:25:07.74\00:25:09.07 So unrealistic expectations are all around us as black men. 00:25:09.10\00:25:14.11 Am I right about that? Absolutely. 00:25:14.14\00:25:15.48 But the beauty of marriage is that you have two people 00:25:15.51\00:25:18.28 who are not perfect coming together... 00:25:18.31\00:25:20.98 They admit they're not perfect. You admit you are not perfect. 00:25:21.02\00:25:23.15 Well, I've got my flaws, you got your flaws... 00:25:23.18\00:25:25.69 Especially, in the Christian context, 00:25:25.72\00:25:27.06 you recognize that God is able 00:25:27.09\00:25:29.22 to still bring us together in such a way 00:25:29.26\00:25:31.36 where my flaws still complements you. 00:25:31.39\00:25:34.06 Right. That's very important. 00:25:34.10\00:25:35.43 There has to be that balance, 00:25:35.46\00:25:36.80 there has to be compromise that you have to keep Christ 00:25:36.83\00:25:39.40 as the central focus in your relationship. 00:25:39.43\00:25:40.84 Absolutely. 00:25:40.87\00:25:42.20 Because if you don't have that, you don't have anything. 00:25:42.24\00:25:44.34 That's why I thank God that He blessed me 00:25:44.37\00:25:46.57 with the woman that I have now 00:25:46.61\00:25:48.44 because we have worship together, 00:25:48.48\00:25:50.71 pray together, we talk about spiritual things. 00:25:50.75\00:25:53.82 And it's a whole new way of going about things. 00:25:53.85\00:25:57.95 And it really, really makes a difference 00:25:57.99\00:25:59.95 because there are those values, 00:25:59.99\00:26:01.79 there is that virtue. 00:26:01.82\00:26:03.43 It doesn't mean she got to be a spiritual juggernaut. 00:26:03.46\00:26:05.13 Sure. 00:26:05.16\00:26:06.49 She doesn't have to be a preacher. 00:26:06.53\00:26:07.86 Right. Sure. 00:26:07.90\00:26:09.23 We got to be clear 00:26:09.26\00:26:10.60 that we're both trying to get to heaven. 00:26:10.63\00:26:11.97 Right. Right. 00:26:12.00\00:26:13.34 You know, I have to admit, you know, me and my wife, 00:26:13.37\00:26:14.70 we worship together as well. 00:26:14.74\00:26:16.07 It is such a beautiful thing. Yeah. 00:26:16.10\00:26:17.44 To be able to talk about God together 00:26:17.47\00:26:19.04 as husband and wife. 00:26:19.07\00:26:20.41 You know, I don't feel like, 00:26:20.44\00:26:21.78 you know, I'm in any sense teaching 00:26:21.81\00:26:24.25 my wife spiritual things, 00:26:24.28\00:26:25.61 but we learn from each other, and we're growing together. 00:26:25.65\00:26:28.25 It's such a wonderful thing, man. 00:26:28.28\00:26:29.72 So I want to find out from you guys just real quick, 00:26:29.75\00:26:31.59 we only got a few seconds here, 00:26:31.62\00:26:32.95 and I got to close the shop today. 00:26:32.99\00:26:34.32 But, y'all, is there anybody in the Bible 00:26:34.36\00:26:36.29 that stands out as a virtuous woman to you? 00:26:36.32\00:26:38.56 Real quick. Mary maybe. 00:26:38.59\00:26:40.53 Mary. Zipporah. 00:26:40.56\00:26:41.90 Zipporah. Yeah. 00:26:41.93\00:26:43.26 I got to piggyback of Mary, man. 00:26:43.30\00:26:44.63 How can you... 00:26:44.67\00:26:46.00 You can't go wrong. Mary, Mother of Christ. 00:26:46.03\00:26:47.60 Esther, man. Esther. 00:26:47.64\00:26:48.97 Esther. Definitely. 00:26:49.00\00:26:50.34 Well, this has been a great conversation, guys, man. 00:26:50.37\00:26:51.71 Thank you so much for pouring into me 00:26:51.74\00:26:53.17 and helping my Brother Mike as well. 00:26:53.21\00:26:54.54 Yeah, man. Appreciate y'all. 00:26:54.58\00:26:55.91 Man, we're praying for you 00:26:55.94\00:26:57.28 that you might get a virtuous woman, all right? 00:26:57.31\00:26:58.65 I got to close the shop, but I see you guys next time. 00:26:58.68\00:27:00.02 All right. 00:27:00.05\00:27:02.95 Wow, we had an awesome conversation today. 00:27:02.98\00:27:05.82 We talked about all the preferences 00:27:05.85\00:27:07.69 that a lot of men have in looking for a woman. 00:27:07.72\00:27:10.86 I want to say this, there is nothing wrong, 00:27:10.89\00:27:13.40 absolutely nothing, 00:27:13.43\00:27:14.76 with having preferences 00:27:14.80\00:27:16.13 for that special someone in your life. 00:27:16.16\00:27:18.03 But don't do yourself a disservice 00:27:18.07\00:27:20.44 by only focusing on the externals. 00:27:20.47\00:27:23.14 The Bible gives us men a pretty clear interpretation 00:27:23.17\00:27:27.04 of what is most profitable for the woman 00:27:27.08\00:27:29.54 we choose to be with. 00:27:29.58\00:27:31.08 It says this, 00:27:31.11\00:27:32.45 "Charm is deceitful, and beauty is vain, 00:27:32.48\00:27:35.68 but a woman who fears the Lord, she is worthy to be praised." 00:27:35.72\00:27:40.26 Proverbs 31:30. 00:27:40.29\00:27:42.96 Look for a woman that is the complete package. 00:27:42.99\00:27:46.19 And what I mean by that is a woman 00:27:46.23\00:27:48.03 who is virtuous in the sense that she obeys the Word of God, 00:27:48.06\00:27:51.60 she's willing to follow the will of God, 00:27:51.63\00:27:54.34 and she knows the Word of God for herself. 00:27:54.37\00:27:57.11 God bless you. See you next time. 00:27:57.14\00:27:58.74