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>>WELCOME TO SACRAMENTO CENTRAL
SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH.
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IT IS BY NO ACCIDENT THAT
YOU HAVE FOUND US EITHER LIVE
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STREAMING ON YOUR COMPUTER -
ON THE INTERNET, ON TELEVISION,
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THROUGH RADIO WAVES -
HOWEVER YOU'RE JOINING US
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WELCOME AND WE ARE
THRILLED THAT YOU HAVE JOINED US
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TO STUDY GOD'S WORD TOGETHER.
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WHAT A PRIVILEGE IT IS, FROM ALL
OVER THE WORLD, TO JOIN TOGETHER
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TO STUDY GOD'S WORD - THE THING
THAT WILL BIND US FOR ETERNITY.
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BEFORE WE BEGIN OUR STUDY TODAY
WITH PASTOR DOUG, I INVITE YOU -
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THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE AT HOME
AND WANT TO SING ALONG WITH US -
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EVERY PRESENTATION WE
SING TOGETHER SO PULL OUT YOUR
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HYMNALS AND WE ARE GOING TO SING
TOGETHER, 'IT TOOK A MIRACLE' -
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HYMN #111. THIS
COMES AS A REQUEST FROM
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LORENE IN GUYANA, MEJING IN HONG
KONG AND GLENN IN NORTH DAKOTA
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AND MANY OTHERS AROUND
THE PLANET LOVE TO SING
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'IT TOOK A MIRACLE' SO
LET'S SING ALL THREE VERSES.
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>>LET'S PRAY.
OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN,
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WE HUMBLY COME BEFORE YOU THIS
MORNING WITH A GLADSOME MIND,
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KNOWING THAT YOU HAVE CREATED US
AND THAT YOU HAVE SENT JESUS TO
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SAVE US AND THAT YOU
ARE COMING AGAIN SOON.
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LORD, WE REST IN THAT
PROMISE AS WE OPEN YOUR WORD TO
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STUDY TOGETHER
AS ONE BIG FAMILY.
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WE TRUST YOU AND WE KNOW THAT
YOUR PROMISES ARE TRUE SO JUST
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CHANGE OUR HEARTS
TO BE MORE LIKE YOU.
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HELP US TO BE SHINING LIGHTS
SO THAT WE CAN DO OUR PART IN
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HASTENING YOUR COMING. AND
LORD, WHEN YOU COME, PLEASE
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HELP US EACH TO BE READY AND
WAITING AND WATCHING AND SAY,
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'LO, YOU ARE OUR
SAVIOR WE HAVE WAITED FOR.'
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WE PRAY THESE THINGS
IN YOUR NAME, JESUS, AMEN.
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OUR STUDY TODAY WILL BE BROUGHT
TO US BY PASTOR DOUG BATCHELOR.
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>>MORNING. I WANT
TO THANK OUR MUSICIANS
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AND WELCOME EVERYBODY.
IF YOU'RE VISITING CENTRAL
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CHURCH WE'RE GLAD THAT YOU'RE
HERE TODAY AND WE'RE JUST VERY
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THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
TO STUDY THIS LESSON.
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THIS IS A GOOD LESSON
WE'RE JUST ENTERING ON.
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FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT BE JOINING
US AND YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO
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PARTICIPATE IN THE FIRST
ONE, WE'RE DEALING WITH A NEW
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QUARTERLY NOW, TALKING
ABOUT THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS.
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OF COURSE, IN OUR CLASS HERE
NOW, LOCALLY, WE TEACH A COUPLE
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OF WEEKS IN ADVANCE SO THAT THE
PROGRAM CAN BE EDITED AND THEN
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THEY SEND IT OFF TO HAVE CLOSED
CAPTIONING ADDED AND TO THE
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VARIOUS NETWORKS THEN AND
SO WE'RE ON LESSON TWO TODAY
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DEALING WITH THE
SUBJECT OF THE SON.
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BEFORE WE DO THAT, ALONG
WITH OUR SUBJECT FOR TODAY, WE
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USUALLY HAVE A FREE OFFER FOR
OUR VIEWERS AND IF YOU'VE NOT
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READ THIS BOOK BEFORE, WE
RECOMMEND IT - BY JOE CREWS -
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IT'S CALLED THE -
'CHRIST'S HUMAN NATURE' -
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CHRIST'S HUMAN NATURE.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONFUSION
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AND DISCUSSION ON THAT AND IT
GOES IN TO SOME OF THE MYSTERY
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OF 'HOW CAN YOU BE A HUMAN
AND STILL BE A HUNDRED PERCENT
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DIVINE?' AND SO, IF YOU'D
LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER
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THEN JUST ASK FOR OFFER #729.
WE'LL SEND IT TO YOU FREE WITH
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THE UNDERSTANDING YOU WILL
READ IT AND THEN SHARE IT WITH
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SOMEBODY. AND
THE NUMBER TO CALL IS
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866-STUDY-MORE -
THAT'S 866-788-3966.
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AND LET'S TURN THEN AND GO
TO OUR LESSON - LESSON #2 IN
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OUR NEW QUARTERLY - AND, BY THE
WAY, THIS HAS GOT - LET ME JUST
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READ THE CONTENTS, IF YOU'VE
NOT HEARD IT YET, FOR THE NEW
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QUARTERLY - LAST WEEK PASTOR
MIKE DID 'OUR LOVING HEAVENLY
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FATHER', TODAY 'THE SON',
NEXT WEEK 'THE HOLY SPIRIT',
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'SALVATION', 'HOW TO BE SAVED',
'GROWING IN CHRIST', 'LIVING
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LIKE CHRIST', 'THE CHURCH', 'OUR
MISSION', 'THE LAW OF GOD', 'THE
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SABBATH', 'DEATH AND
RESURRECTION', 'THE SECOND
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COMING' - WOW, IT'S - THIS
IS LIKE AN EVANGELISTIC MEETING.
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THIS IS GOING TO BE A
REALLY GOOD QUARTERLY SO I'M
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LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
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TODAY WE'RE GOING TO DELVE
INTO THE MYSTERY OF JESUS -
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UNDERSTANDING THE SECOND
PERSON OF THE GODHEAD - THE SON.
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AND OUR MEMORY VERSE IS MARK
10:45, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY
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THAT WITH ME. MARK
10:45 - ARE YOU READY?
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"FOR EVEN THE SON OF MAN DID NOT
COME TO BE SERVED, BUT TO SERVE,
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AND TO GIVE HIS
LIFE A RANSOM FOR MANY."
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JESUS CAME TO GIVE HIS
LIFE A RANSOM FOR MANY.
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AND SO WE'RE REALLY EXPLORING,
TODAY, THE BIG SUBJECT OF
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WHO WAS JESUS? WHO WAS JESUS?
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NOW THIS QUESTION IS ACTUALLY
FOUND IN THE BIBLE IN SEVERAL
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PLACES. IN FACT,
MAYBE I'LL GET SOMEONE
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READY - I THINK WE GAVE OUT SOME
VERSES TO SOME OF YOU SITTING
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HERE. SOMEBODY
SHOULD HAVE JOHN -
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THE GOSPEL OF JOHN 1,
VERSES 10 AND 11 - WHO HAS THAT?
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DID YOU GET A SLIP
OF PAPER WITH THAT?
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RIGHT OVER HERE - WE'LL GET YOU
A MICROPHONE RIGHT THERE - AND
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THAT WAY THAT CAMERAS
CAN FIND OUT WHERE YOU ARE.
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WE'LL HAVE YOU READ
THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.
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AS WE QUEUE UP TO THAT, I'M
GOING TO READ A COUPLE VERSES.
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LOOK, FOR INSTANCE, IN LUKE 9,
VERSE 9, "AND HEROD SAID, 'JOHN
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I HAVE BEHEADED,'" - SPEAKING OF
JOHN THE BAPTIST - "'BUT WHO IS
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THIS'" - SPEAKING OF JESUS
- "'WHO IS THIS OF WHOM I HEAR
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SUCH THINGS?' SO
HE SOUGHT TO SEE HIM."
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THAT'S WHY HEROD WAS SO GLAD
WHEN HE COULD FINALLY SEE JESUS
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FACE TO FACE AT
THE TRIAL OF CHRIST.
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HE THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN
WAITING TO SEE WHO THIS FELLA IS
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FOR SUCH A LONG TIME.' YOU CAN
READ THEN IN JOHN 9:35 AND 36 -
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YOU REMEMBER WHEN
JESUS HEALED THE BLIND MAN?
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AND AFTER HE HEALED THE BLIND
MAN - THE BLIND MAN HAD ACTUALLY
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NEVER MET JESUS YET - AND
SO JESUS, PREPARING TO REVEAL
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HIMSELF TO HIM, IT SAYS HERE,
"JESUS HEARD THAT THEY HAD CAST
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HIM OUT; AND WHEN HE HAD FOUND
HIM, HE SAID TO HIM, 'DO YOU
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BELIEVE IN THE SON OF GOD?'
HE ANSWERED AND SAID, 'WHO IS
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HE, LORD, THAT I
MAY BELIEVE IN HIM?'"
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NOW THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT
VERSE BECAUSE, IN ORDER FOR US
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TO BE SAVED, YOU NEED TO BELIEVE
IN JESUS, BUT IN ORDER TO
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BELIEVE IN JESUS YOU NEED
TO KNOW, WHO IS HE? RIGHT?
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YOU CAN'T JUST GO UP TO A PERSON
ON THE STREET AND TAKE THEM BY
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THE COLLAR AND SHAKE HIM
AND SAY, 'BELIEVE IN JESUS.' NOW
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SOME PEOPLE USE THAT METHOD BUT
THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO DO
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IT. THE PERSON NEEDS TO
KNOW, 'WHO IS IT I'M SUPPOSED TO
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BELIEVE IN?' THEN YOU
GO TO JOHN 8, VERSE 23
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- JOHN 8, VERSE 23. "AND
HE SAID TO THEM" - JESUS IS
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SPEAKING - "'YOU ARE
FROM BENEATH; I AM FROM ABOVE.
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YOU ARE OF THIS WORLD;
I AM NOT OF THIS WORLD.
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THEREFORE I SAY TO YOU THAT YOU
WILL DIE IN YOUR SINS; FOR IF
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YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THAT I AM HE,
YOU WILL DIE IN YOUR SINS.'" SO
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HOW IMPORTANT IS IT TO KNOW
JESUS AND TO BELIEVE IN HIM?
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CHRIST'S OWN WORDS SAID, 'IF YOU
DON'T KNOW THEN YOU'LL DIE IN
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YOUR SINS.'
WE'VE GOT TO KNOW HIM.
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JESUS HAS NO GRANDCHILDREN.
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YOU NEED TO HAVE A
PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.
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YOU CAN'T SAY, 'WELL, YOU KNOW,
I GREW UP IN THE CHURCH.' OR 'MY
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PARENTS ARE IN THE CHURCH, MY
GRANDPARENTS ARE IN THE CHURCH.'
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'YEAH, MY GRANDFATHER WAS A
PASTOR.' YOU EVER HEARD PEOPLE -
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IT'S LIKE YOU GET SOME KIND OF
- YOU GET CREDIT IF YOU'VE GOT A
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LOT OF RELIGIOUS RELATIVES
- YOU GET SOME KIND OF CREDIT.
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WHAT DID JESUS SAY - OR
JOHN THE BAPTIST, RATHER -
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WHEN THE JEWS SAID,
'OH, ABRAHAM'S OUR FATHER
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- WE'RE JEWS.
HE'S GOT TO SAVE US.
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WE'RE FROM THE CHOSEN RACE.' AND
JOHN SAID, 'THE LORD IS ABLE TO
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RAISE UP CHILDREN TO ABRAHAM
FROM THE STONES AND MANY WILL
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COME FROM THE EAST AND
THE WEST.' SO WE'VE GOT TO BE
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CAREFUL NOT TO THINK THAT
SOMEHOW THROUGH ASSOCIATION
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WE'RE SAVED. YOU NEED TO
PERSONALLY KNOW HIM AND HAVE A
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RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.
WHO IS HE? ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD.
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READ FOR US JOHN
1, VERSES 10 AND 11.
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>>"HE WAS IN THE WORLD, AND
THE WORLD WAS MADE THROUGH HIM,
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AND THE WORLD DID NOT KNOW HIM.
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HE CAME TO HIS OWN, AND
HIS OWN DID NOT RECEIVE HIM."
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>>YES, BUT AS
MANY AS RECEIVED HIM,
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TO THEM HE GAVE POWER
TO BE THE SONS OF GOD.
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SO THAT'S THE BIG QUESTION: 'HE
CAME UNTO HIS OWN AND HIS OWN
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DID NOT RECEIVE HIM.' NOW I
WONDER HOW MANY TIMES THE LORD
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HAS COME TO HIS OWN AND
HIS OWN DID NOT KNOW HIM.
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AND THIS IS NOT JUST DESCRIBING
GOD'S PEOPLE IN THE OLD
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TESTAMENT OR THE JEWISH
PEOPLE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT,
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IT HAPPENS TO
GOD'S PEOPLE TODAY.
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THERE ARE CHURCHES THAT HAVE
JESUS' NAME ON THE BUILDING AND
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HE COMES AND
THEY DON'T KNOW HIM.
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AND SO A LOT OF PEOPLE REALLY
DON'T UNDERSTAND WHO JESUS IS.
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LET'S TALK ABOUT
THAT FOR JUST A MINUTE.
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WHO DOES HISTORY THINK
THAT JESUS IS? YOU REALIZE THAT
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EVERYBODY SORT OF HAS A
DIFFERENT IDEA OF CHRIST.
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IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE STORY
- AND YOU'VE HEARD ME USE THIS
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BEFORE BUT IT FITS HERE SO I'LL
USE IT AGAIN - THE SIX BLIND MEN
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THAT HAD HEARD ABOUT ELEPHANTS
BUT THEY'D NEVER REALLY SEEN AN
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ELEPHANT BECAUSE THEY WERE BLIND
AND SO A FRIEND LED THEM ALL,
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HOLDING A ROPE ONE
DAY, OVER TO AN ELEPHANT.
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AND THEY ALL GATHERED AROUND
THE ELEPHANT AND THEY GOT A
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DIFFERENT PART OF THE ELEPHANT.
THIS STORY IS FROM INDIA.
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AND SO ONE OF THEM GOT AHOLD OF
THE ELEPHANT'S TAIL AND HE SAID,
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'I FINALLY
UNDERSTAND THE ELEPHANT.
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AN ELEPHANT IS LIKE A SNAKE -
IS LIKE A ROPE.' AND THE ONE WHO
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GOT AHOLD OF THE TRUNK HE SAID,
'NO, YOU'RE WRONG, AN ELEPHANT
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IS LIKE A SNAKE.' AND THEN
THE OTHER FRIEND CALLED - HE WAS
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HOLDING ON TO THE EAR - HE SAID,
'NO, AN ELEPHANT IS LIKE A BIRD.
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IT'S GOT BIG WINGS.' AND ANOTHER
ONE GOT AHOLD OF THE MIDDLE PART
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OF THE ELEPHANT - 'THE ELEPHANT
IS LIKE A MOUNTAIN' HE SAID.
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AND ANOTHER ONE GOT AHOLD OF THE
ELEPHANT'S TRUNK - OR RATHER THE
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ELEPHANT'S LEG - AND HE SAID,
'NO, AN ELEPHANT'S LIKE A TREE.'
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AND THEN ONE OF THEM GOT AHOLD
OF THE ELEPHANT'S TUSKS AND HE
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SAYS, 'THE ELEPHANT IS LIKE A
STICK.' AND THEY ALL HAD A HOLD
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OF THE ELEPHANT BUT THEY HAD
A HOLD OF A DIFFERENT PART AND
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BECAUSE THEY WERE BLIND THEY
DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE ELEPHANT.
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SO UNDERSTANDING WHO JESUS IS
IS NOT JUST GETTING AHOLD OF ONE
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ELEMENT OF HIS CHARACTER, BUT
IT'S UNDERSTANDING THE DIFFERENT
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FACETS OF HIS CHARACTER
AND YOU NEED TO WALK AROUND IT.
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HE IS A GOD OF LOVE BUT
HE IS A GOD OF JUDGMENT.
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HE IS A GOD OF MERCY AND
GRACE. HE'S A GOD OF WISDOM.
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AND SO IT'S LOOKING AT THE
DIFFERENT FACETS OF WHO JESUS IS
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THAT WE UNDERSTAND HIM. AND
SO - NOW SOMEONE SAID, 'IF YOU
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ASK A BUDDHIST 'WHO IS JESUS?'
THE BUDDHISTS SAY JESUS WAS 'ONE
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OF THE ENLIGHTENED INCARNATIONS
OF BUDDHA.' IF YOU ASK ISLAM AND
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READ IN THE
KORAN, 'WHO WAS JESUS?'
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THEY BELIEVE THAT JESUS WAS
REAL, THAT HE WAS A HOLY MAN,
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AND HE WAS ONE OF THE GREAT
FIVE PROPHETS - FIVE GREATEST
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PROPHETS. IF YOU ASK
HINDUS 'WHO IS JESUS?'
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IT SAYS THAT HE WAS ONE OF THE
INCARNATIONS OF THE GOD VISHNU.
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IF YOU ASK JEWS THEY WILL
SAY 'JESUS WAS A GOOD MAN, MAYBE
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EVEN A PROPHET.' YOU KNOW,
AND SOME PEOPLE SAY, 'WELL, WE
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REALLY CAN'T KNOW WHAT JESUS
SAID BECAUSE THERE'S SO LITTLE
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ABOUT HIM THAT YOU
CAN READ.' THAT IS A MYTH.
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YOU EVER HEARD THAT BEFORE?
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OH, WE KNOW A LOT ABOUT JULIUS
CAESAR AND WE KNOW A LOT ABOUT
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ALEXANDER THE GREAT.' AND 'WE
KNOW A LOT ABOUT THESE DIFFERENT
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CHARACTERS FROM HISTORY.'
BUT, IN REALITY, THERE IS MORE
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WRITTEN IN HISTORY ABOUT JESUS
THAN ALEXANDER THE GREAT OR -
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AND A LOT OF THE HISTORIANS WERE
WRITING SECOND AND THIRD HAND
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ABOUT ALEXANDER. YOU
KNOW, JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING
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WE KNOW ABOUT JULIUS CAESAR -
EVERYONE QUOTES AND TALKS ABOUT
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CAESAR - BUT JUST ABOUT
EVERYTHING WE KNOW ABOUT CAESAR
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COMES FROM SOME OF THE
HISTORICAL LETTERS OF CICERO.
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THERE'S VERY LITTLE THAT
WAS WRITTEN BUT WE DON'T EVER
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QUESTION THAT. BUT WE QUESTION
WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT JESUS.
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YOU KNOW WHY?
BECAUSE OF THE MIRACLES.
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THEY SAY, 'WELL,
HOW COULD THIS BE TRUE.
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BUT WHAT THE HISTORIANS - HIS
CONTEMPORARIES - WROTE ABOUT HIM
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- EVEN THOSE WHO WERE NOT GOSPEL
WRITERS LIKE FLAVIUS JOSEPHUS,
00:15:16.43\00:15:24.00
WHO LIVED DURING
THE TIME OF CHRIST -
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HAVE YOU READ WHAT
HE WROTE ABOUT JESUS?
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WE DON'T QUESTION JOSEPHUS -
WHAT HE SAYS ABOUT THE HISTORY
00:15:28.33\00:15:31.13
OF THE JEWS AND THE
JEWISH WARS AND THE ROMANS.
00:15:31.13\00:15:33.66
WE ALL WRITE THAT DOWN LIKE FACT
BUT HAVE YOU READ WHAT HE SAID
00:15:33.66\00:15:36.30
ABOUT JESUS? I'LL READ IT.
IT'S ONLY ONE COMMENT BECAUSE HE
00:15:36.30\00:15:40.13
JUST GOES THROUGH HISTORY
AND HE RECORDS WHAT WAS WRITTEN.
00:15:40.13\00:15:43.83
"ABOUT THIS TIME THERE LIVED
JESUS, A WISE MAN, IF INDEED ONE
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OUGHT TO CALL HIM A MAN, FOR HE
WAS ONE WHO PERFORMED SURPRISING
00:15:48.66\00:15:52.43
DEEDS AND WAS A TEACHER OF SUCH
PEOPLE AS GLADLY RECEIVED THE
00:15:52.43\00:15:56.16
TRUTH. HE WON OVER MANY OF
THE JEWS AND MANY OF THE GREEKS.
00:15:56.16\00:16:00.13
HE WAS THE MESSIAH."
THIS IS A JEWISH HISTORIAN.
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WHAT DID HE SAY?
HE WAS THE MESSIAH.
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HE SAYS IT AS A PASSING COMMENT.
"AND WHEN, UPON THE ACCUSATION
00:16:06.00\00:16:09.73
OF THE PRINCIPLE
MEN AMONG US, PILATE HAD
00:16:09.73\00:16:12.20
CONDEMNED HIM TO A CROSS, THOSE
WHO HAD FIRST COME TO LOVE HIM
00:16:12.20\00:16:16.10
DID NOT CEASE, HE APPEARED
TO THEM SPENDING A THIRD DAY
00:16:16.10\00:16:20.43
RESTORED TO LIFE, FOR THE
PROPHETS OF GOD HAD FORETOLD
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THESE THINGS AND A THOUSAND
OTHER MARVELS ABOUT HIM AND THE
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TRIBE OF
CHRISTIANS, SO CALLED AFTER
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HIM, IS STILL
WITH US TO THIS DAY."
00:16:28.50\00:16:31.40
THAT'S IN THE JEWISH ANTIQUITIES
18.3.3 @63 IF YOU WANT TO LOOK
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IT UP FOR YOURSELF. AND
SO HISTORY RECORDS JESUS
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REALLY LIVED. WHY DO
WE SAY THAT THIS IS 2014?
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HOW DID WE COME UP WITH 2014
WHAT? THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE 2014
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YEARS AD - ANNO DOMINI -
THEY CALL IT NOW THE CE -
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THE COMMON ERA. THEY'VE
RE - INSTEAD OF IT BEING
00:16:54.80\00:16:59.13
THE YEAR OF THE LORD AD, PEOPLE
THAT DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE IN
00:16:59.13\00:17:01.90
JESUS AND ATHEISTS THEY SAY, 'WE
NEED TO CHANGE THE WAY WE DATE.
00:17:01.90\00:17:05.00
LET'S CALL IT THE COMMON ERA.'
WELL, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE
00:17:05.00\00:17:07.30
CHRISTIAN ERA - AD - AND
SO, THEY'RE TRYING TO DISTANCE
00:17:07.30\00:17:11.86
THEMSELVES. BUT WHERE
DO WE COME UP WITH THAT?
00:17:11.86\00:17:14.86
WELL, THEY DATED IT
FROM THE DEATH OF CHRIST.
00:17:14.86\00:17:17.63
SO THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT
JESUS LIVED, THE QUESTION IS
00:17:17.63\00:17:20.90
'WHO IS HE?' AND
'WHO IS HE TO YOU?'
00:17:20.90\00:17:25.26
WELL, WHAT DID HE
SAY ABOUT HIMSELF?
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HE CLAIMED TO BE THE MESSIAH,
HE CLAIMED TO BE THE SON OF GOD,
00:17:27.70\00:17:33.80
AND HE CLAIMED TO BE GOD. THOSE
ARE PRETTY OUTRAGEOUS CLAIMS.
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THIS IS WHERE I LIKE TO
QUOTE C.S. LEWIS, "A MAN WHO IS
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MERELY A MAN - IF HE SAID THE
SORT OF THINGS THAT JESUS SAID,
00:17:44.10\00:17:47.26
HE WOULDN'T BE A
GREAT MORAL TEACHER.
00:17:47.26\00:17:49.66
HE'D EITHER BE A LUNATIC ON THE
LEVEL OF A MAN WHO SAYS HE'S A
00:17:49.66\00:17:52.36
POACHED EGG OR ELSE
HE'D BE THE DEVIL OF HELL.
00:17:52.36\00:17:56.30
YOU MUST MAKE YOUR CHOICE.
EITHER THIS MAN WAS AND IS THE
00:17:56.30\00:17:59.56
SON OF GOD OR HE IS A
MADMAN OR SOMETHING WORSE."
00:17:59.56\00:18:03.56
THAT'S RIGHT, YOU
ONLY HAVE THREE CHOICES.
00:18:03.56\00:18:05.80
JESUS IS LIAR, LUNATIC, OR LORD.
BECAUSE OF THE CLAIMS HE MADE,
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I MEAN, WHAT ARE
YOUR OTHER OPTIONS?
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IS THERE ANOTHER OPTION? HE
WAS EITHER CRAZY OR HE WAS A
00:18:14.10\00:18:16.73
DECEIVER, OR HE
WAS TELLING THE TRUTH.
00:18:16.73\00:18:19.80
WELL, WE BELIEVE THAT HE WAS
TELLING THE TRUTH BECAUSE THEN
00:18:19.80\00:18:23.20
HE BACKED UP HIS GREAT CLAIMS
WITH GREAT DEEDS AND GREAT
00:18:23.20\00:18:28.50
MIRACLES, RIGHT? SO WE
NEED TO KNOW WHO JESUS WAS.
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JEREMIAH 9 - NOW SOMEBODY
LOOK UP FOR ME JOHN 14:7.
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I'LL JUST GET YOU READY.
00:18:36.43\00:18:40.63
YOU GOT - MAYBE I
GAVE YOU - YEP, THAT'S IT.
00:18:40.63\00:18:42.40
I'M SORRY, YOU'RE RIGHT
RICHARD - YOU'RE THE ONE.
00:18:42.40\00:18:44.13
HOLD UP YOUR HAND.
WE'LL GET YOU A MICROPHONE.
00:18:44.13\00:18:46.16
YEAH, GET A MICROPHONE OVER
TO HIM. YEAH, I GAVE THE WRONG
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VERSE - JOHN 14:17 - AND
WE'LL GET TO THAT IN A MOMENT.
00:18:48.66\00:18:53.53
JEREMIAH 9:23 IS WHERE I
WANT YOU TO READ RIGHT NOW.
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TALKING ABOUT
KNOWING WHO JESUS WAS.
00:18:57.50\00:18:59.90
"THUS SAYS THE LORD: 'LET
NOT THE WISE MAN GLORY IN HIS
00:18:59.90\00:19:03.36
WISDOM, LET NOT THE MIGHTY MAN
GLORY IN HIS MIGHT, NOR LET THE
00:19:03.36\00:19:07.96
RICH MAN GLORY IN HIS RICHES;
BUT LET HIM WHO GLORIES GLORY IN
00:19:07.96\00:19:11.93
THIS,'" - GLORY MEANS BOAST -
"'THAT HE UNDERSTANDS AND KNOWS
00:19:11.93\00:19:18.90
ME,'" - IF YOU THINK WHAT
WOULD LEAD TO REAL HAPPINESS.
00:19:18.90\00:19:23.53
WELL, FOR A MAN, IF YOU COULD BE
STRONG, FAMOUS AND POWERFUL AND
00:19:23.53\00:19:27.10
RICH - THAT'S WHAT
A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT.
00:19:27.10\00:19:29.06
IT'S WHAT THE DEVIL OFFERS.
00:19:29.06\00:19:30.90
BUT WHAT DOES GOD SAY IS THE
MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT YOU
00:19:30.90\00:19:32.80
COULD BE THANKFUL
FOR? PURPOSE OF LIFE?
00:19:32.80\00:19:34.96
'THAT YOU KNOW ME.'
THAT IS ETERNAL LIFE. -
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"'LET HIM WHO GLORIES GLORY
IN THIS: THAT HE UNDERSTANDS AND
00:19:38.03\00:19:41.43
KNOWS ME THAT I AM THE LORD,
EXERCISING LOVING KINDNESS,
00:19:41.43\00:19:45.40
JUDGMENT, AND
RIGHTEOUSNESS IN THE EARTH.
00:19:45.40\00:19:47.43
FOR IN THESE I DELIGHT.'" YOU GO
TO JOHN 17, VERSE 2 - THIS IS IN
00:19:47.43\00:19:53.36
THAT GREAT INTERCESSORY PRAYER
OF JESUS, "AS YOU HAVE GIVEN HIM
00:19:53.36\00:19:56.76
AUTHORITY OVER ALL FLESH, THAT
HE SHOULD GIVE ETERNAL LIFE TO
00:19:56.76\00:19:59.80
AS MANY AS YOU HAVE GIVEN HIM.
AND THIS IS ETERNAL LIFE," -
00:19:59.80\00:20:03.40
WHAT IS IT? - "THAT THEY MAY
KNOW YOU, THE ONLY TRUE GOD," -
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WHAT IS ETERNAL
LIFE? TO KNOW HIM.
00:20:08.56\00:20:10.90
SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND
STUDYING THE SUBJECT OF THE SON
00:20:10.90\00:20:13.23
TODAY, IT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR US TO
JUST TALK ABOUT JESUS, WE NEED
00:20:13.23\00:20:16.83
TO SAY, 'DO WE KNOW
HIM?' DO WE HAVE A PERSONAL
00:20:16.83\00:20:20.33
RELATIONSHIP? DO YOU
TALK TO HIM AFTER CHURCH
00:20:20.33\00:20:22.53
IS OVER AND THROUGH THE WEEK?
OR DO YOU JUST THINK ABOUT HIM
00:20:22.53\00:20:25.50
ONCE A WEEK OR
WHEN YOU'RE IN TROUBLE?
00:20:25.50\00:20:27.56
IS HE A REGULAR FRIEND IN THE
GOOD TIMES AND BAD AND IN THE
00:20:27.56\00:20:30.73
BORING TIMES? I MEAN, HE
SHOULD BE WITH YOU ALWAYS.
00:20:30.73\00:20:35.60
THIS IS ETERNAL LIFE THAT THEY
MIGHT KNOW YOU THE ONLY TRUE
00:20:35.60\00:20:39.06
GOD AND JESUS
CHRIST WHO YOU SENT.
00:20:39.06\00:20:41.66
KNOWING GOD IN
CHRIST IS ETERNAL LIFE.
00:20:41.66\00:20:44.30
ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD
RICHARD, READ FOR US JOHN 14:17.
00:20:44.30\00:20:49.26
>>"THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, WHOM THE
WORLD CANNOT RECEIVE, BECAUSE IT
00:20:49.26\00:20:52.93
NEITHER SEES HIM NOR KNOWS HIM;
BUT YOU KNOW HIM, FOR HE DWELLS
00:20:52.93\00:20:58.00
WITH YOU AND WILL BE IN YOU."
00:20:58.00\00:21:00.96
>>THE WORLD CANNOT RECEIVE
CHRIST BECAUSE IT DOES NOT KNOW
00:21:00.96\00:21:04.46
HIM. A LOT OF
PEOPLE DISMISS JESUS.
00:21:04.46\00:21:07.76
THEY SCOFF, THEY LAUGH - YOU
MENTION JESUS' NAME, THEY TURN
00:21:07.76\00:21:10.76
AWAY. 'OH NO.' -
THEY ROLL THEIR EYES.
00:21:10.76\00:21:12.80
THAT'S ONLY BECAUSE THEY DON'T
KNOW HIM. THEY CAN'T KNOW -
00:21:12.80\00:21:16.46
THEY'VE GOT A DIFFERENT
SPIRIT AND THEY'RE BLIND.
00:21:16.46\00:21:19.80
WHAT WILL JESUS
DECLARE TO THE LOST?
00:21:19.80\00:21:26.30
MANY SAY, 'LORD, LORD' - AND
HE SAYS, 'DEPART FROM ME YE WHO
00:21:26.30\00:21:29.06
WORK INIQUITY, I NEVER - I NEVER
KNEW YOU.' GOD WANTS TO KNOW US.
00:21:29.06\00:21:35.26
HE WANTS TO HAVE THAT INTIMATE
LOVING RELATIONSHIP WITH US AND
00:21:35.26\00:21:38.66
WHEN I SAY INTIMATE, JUST
REMEMBER IN THE OLD TESTAMENT IT
00:21:38.66\00:21:42.73
SAYS, 'ADAM KNEW HIS
WIFE' - THEY HAD A BABY.
00:21:42.73\00:21:46.30
I MEAN, IT WAS LIKE A MARRIAGE
RELATIONSHIP AND THE LORD WANTS
00:21:46.30\00:21:50.06
TO HAVE A LOVING
RELATIONSHIP WITH US.
00:21:50.06\00:21:53.43
I LIKE WHEN JESUS TALKED
TO THE WOMAN AT THE WELL.
00:21:53.43\00:21:56.63
IF THERE WAS ANY QUESTION ABOUT
WHO HE WAS - SOME SAY - I'VE
00:21:56.63\00:22:01.83
HEARD PEOPLE SAY BEFORE,
'JESUS NEVER CLAIMED TO BE
00:22:01.83\00:22:04.10
THE MESSIAH.' OH YES HE DID.
00:22:04.10\00:22:07.60
JOHN 4:25, SPEAKING TO THE WOMAN
AT THE WELL, SHE SAID, "'I KNOW
00:22:07.60\00:22:13.10
THAT MESSIAH IS
COMING' (WHO IS CALLED CHRIST).
00:22:13.10\00:22:17.06
'WHEN HE COMES, HE WILL TELL US
ALL THINGS.' JESUS SAID TO HER,
00:22:17.06\00:22:21.50
'I WHO SPEAK TO YOU AM
HE.'" CAN THAT BE MISUNDERSTOOD?
00:22:21.50\00:22:28.26
SHE UNDERSTOOD IT BECAUSE SHE
DROPPED HER WATER POT, RAN TO
00:22:28.26\00:22:30.43
TOWN, AND SAID, 'WE
FOUND HIM OF WHOM MOSES
00:22:30.43\00:22:34.03
AND THE PROPHETS DID SPEAK.
00:22:34.03\00:22:36.73
COME SEE THE MAN WHO TOLD ME ALL
THINGS EVER I DID.' IF YOU LOOK
00:22:36.73\00:22:39.13
IN MATTHEW 26, WHEN JESUS WAS
BEING TRIED "AND THE HIGH PRIEST
00:22:39.13\00:22:45.53
ANSWERED AND SAID TO HIM, 'I
PUT YOU UNDER OATH BY THE LIVING
00:22:45.53\00:22:48.63
GOD: TELL US IF YOU ARE
THE CHRIST, THE SON OF GOD!'"
00:22:48.63\00:22:52.56
THAT'S A PRETTY PLAIN QUESTION.
HE SAID, 'TELL US ALREADY.
00:22:52.56\00:22:55.46
YOU'VE BEEN BEATING AROUND'
- YOU NOTICE JESUS TOLD OTHER
00:22:55.46\00:22:57.86
PEOPLE BUT HE DIDN'T
TELL THE RELIGIOUS LEADERS.
00:22:57.86\00:23:00.73
HE WANTED THEM TO
DISCOVER BY EVIDENCE.
00:23:00.73\00:23:04.03
GOD GAVE LOTS OF
EVIDENCE IN THE WORD.
00:23:04.03\00:23:06.50
YOU REMEMBER WHEN JOHN THE
BAPTIST - I'LL GET BACK TO THIS
00:23:06.50\00:23:09.93
VERSE, DON'T THINK I FORGOT.
WHEN JOHN THE BAPTIST WAS IN
00:23:09.93\00:23:14.10
JAIL, HE STARTED
GETTING DISCOURAGED.
00:23:14.10\00:23:16.36
HE KEPT WAITING FOR JESUS
TO MAKE SOME GRAND ANNOUNCEMENT
00:23:16.36\00:23:19.40
THAT HE WAS THE
MESSIAH AND HE DIDN'T.
00:23:19.40\00:23:22.06
AND JOHN - THE DEVIL STARTED
WORKING ON HIS - HIS CONFIDENCE
00:23:22.06\00:23:25.86
AND JOHN SENT SOME
MESSENGERS TO JESUS.
00:23:25.86\00:23:27.60
THEY SAID, 'ARE YOU THE ONE
WE'RE WAITING FOR OR DO WE LOOK
00:23:27.60\00:23:30.40
FOR ANOTHER?' JESUS
DIDN'T SAY, 'YES, I'M THE
00:23:30.40\00:23:33.20
ONE.' YOU KNOW WHAT HE DID?
HE TOLD THE MESSENGERS, 'STAND
00:23:33.20\00:23:37.73
BY.' AND THEY HAD TO WATCH HIM
AS HE TAUGHT AND HE HEALED AND
00:23:37.73\00:23:41.63
HE OPENED PEOPLE'S
EYES AND HE FORGAVE SINS.
00:23:41.63\00:23:46.26
AND THEN HE TURNED BACK TO THEM
AND HE SAID, 'YOU GO TELL JOHN
00:23:46.26\00:23:48.46
WHAT YOU SAW AND THAT SHOULD
ANSWER HIS QUESTION.' IN OTHER
00:23:48.46\00:23:51.96
WORDS, 'I'M NOT GOING
TO ANSWER YOU YES OR KNOW.
00:23:51.96\00:23:54.00
I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE
EVIDENCE IN THE WORD THAT TELLS
00:23:54.00\00:23:56.40
ABOUT WHAT THE MINISTRY OF THE
MESSIAH WOULD BE.' BECAUSE IT
00:23:56.40\00:23:59.06
SAID IN ISAIAH 61, 'THE
SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS UPON ME.
00:23:59.06\00:24:01.86
HE'S ANOINTED ME TO PREACH THE
GOSPEL TO THE POOR, TO OPEN THE
00:24:01.86\00:24:04.76
EYES OF THE BLIND, TO HEAL THE
BROKENHEARTED, TO SET AT LIBERTY
00:24:04.76\00:24:08.83
THOSE THAT ARE CAPTIVE.' AND SO
IT TOLD EXACTLY WHAT THE MESSIAH
00:24:08.83\00:24:12.40
WOULD DO IN THE OLD TESTAMENT
PROPHECIES AND THEN JESUS DID IT
00:24:12.40\00:24:15.80
IN FRONT OF THE MESSENGERS OF
JOHN AND SAID, 'NOW YOU GO BACK
00:24:15.80\00:24:18.46
AND TELL HIM WHAT YOU SAW.' SO
THE LORD, HE WANTED THEM TO KNOW
00:24:18.46\00:24:23.16
THE EVIDENCE IN THE WORD.
BUT FINALLY, THE HIGH PRIEST, HE
00:24:23.16\00:24:27.43
COULDN'T STAND IT
ANYMORE AND HE SAID, 'TELL US.
00:24:27.43\00:24:29.53
ARE YOU THE ONE?' AND
JESUS SAID - BECAUSE HE SAID
00:24:29.53\00:24:32.53
IT WITH AN OATH
UNDER THE NAME OF GOD.
00:24:32.53\00:24:34.86
CHRIST SAID, OKAY, IF YOU WANT
TO KNOW, "IT IS AS YOU SAID."
00:24:34.86\00:24:42.10
WHAT DID HE SAY? 'TELL
US IF YOU'RE THE CHRIST,
00:24:42.10\00:24:43.86
THE SON OF GOD.' JESUS
SAID, 'IT IS AS YOU SAID.
00:24:43.86\00:24:46.60
I AM WHAT YOU SAID.'
ISN'T THAT WHAT HE'S SAYING?
00:24:46.60\00:24:50.03
"NEVERTHELESS...HEREAFTER YOU
WILL SEE THE SON OF MAN SITTING
00:24:50.03\00:24:53.70
AT THE RIGHT HAND OF POWER AND
COMING IN THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN."
00:24:53.70\00:24:57.33
IS THERE ANY QUESTION
THAT HE WAS CLAIMING DIVINITY?
00:24:57.33\00:25:00.46
THEY UNDERSTOOD HE WAS CLAIMING
DIVINITY BECAUSE THE HIGH PRIEST
00:25:00.46\00:25:03.40
THEN TORE HIS ROBES AND
SAID, 'THIS IS BLASPHEMY!
00:25:03.40\00:25:06.03
YOU'RE CLAIMING TO BE GOD!'
AND THAT'S WHEN THEY CONDEMNED
00:25:06.03\00:25:09.33
HIM TO DIE. THERE
WAS NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
00:25:09.33\00:25:13.80
SO - AND, BY THE WAY, ANOTHER
TIME, WHEN THEY THREATENED TO
00:25:13.80\00:25:18.00
STONE JESUS, JESUS SAID, 'BEFORE
ABRAHAM WAS, I AM.' NOW, YOU
00:25:18.00\00:25:24.30
MIGHT THINK, 'WELL, I AM WHAT?'
JESUS WAS SAYING THE SAME THING
00:25:24.30\00:25:28.73
THAT GOD SAID TO MOSES WHEN HE
SAID, 'WHO ARE YOU SO I CAN TELL
00:25:28.73\00:25:33.13
THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL?'
GOD SAID, 'I AM THAT I AM.' -
00:25:33.13\00:25:36.30
I'M NOT ONE OF THE GODS.
00:25:36.30\00:25:38.36
I'M NOT THE GOD OF THE RIVER AND
I'M NOT THE GOD OF THE FROGS AND
00:25:38.36\00:25:42.53
I'M - THE EGYPTIANS HAD THE GOD
OF THE SUN - THEY HAD ALL THESE
00:25:42.53\00:25:44.73
DIFFERENT GODS AND GOD SAID
TO MOSES, SO HE WOULDN'T CONFUSE
00:25:44.73\00:25:49.00
THEM - HE SAID, 'I AM
THE SELF-EXISTENT ONE.
00:25:49.00\00:25:51.43
I'M THE ONE THAT
MAKES EVERYTHING ELSE.
00:25:51.43\00:25:53.06
I AM THAT I AM.'
JESUS SAID THE SAME THING.
00:25:53.06\00:25:57.56
HE SAID, 'BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS,
I AM.' AND IF YOU THINK, 'WELL,
00:25:57.56\00:26:01.66
WHAT DID THAT MEAN?' THE
JEWS KNEW WHAT THAT MEANT.
00:26:01.66\00:26:04.43
THEY TOOK UP STONES TO STONE
HIM FOR BLASPHEMY AND THEY SAID,
00:26:04.43\00:26:07.66
'BECAUSE YOU, BEING A
MAN, MAKE YOURSELF GOD.'
00:26:07.66\00:26:12.20
WELL, HE DID MAKE HIMSELF GOD.
00:26:12.20\00:26:14.20
DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN THE
RICH YOUNG RULER CAME TO JESUS?
00:26:14.20\00:26:17.40
HE SAID, 'LORD, I WANT ETERNAL
LIFE.' CHRIST SAID, 'KEEP THE
00:26:17.40\00:26:21.80
COMMANDMENTS.' FIRST - NO, WAIT,
WAIT, WAIT - HE SAID, 'GOOD
00:26:21.80\00:26:25.20
MASTER, WHAT GOOD THINGS SHOULD
I DO THAT I MIGHT HAVE ETERNAL
00:26:25.20\00:26:27.50
LIFE?' AND JESUS
SAID, 'WHY DO YOU CALL
00:26:27.50\00:26:29.03
ME GOOD? NONE IS GOOD BUT GOD.
00:26:29.03\00:26:33.93
NO ONE IS PURELY GOOD BUT GOD
BECAUSE ALL HAVE SINNED.' IS ANY
00:26:33.93\00:26:37.53
MAN GOOD? ALL HAVE TURNED
AWAY, THE BIBLE SAYS, RIGHT?
00:26:37.53\00:26:43.10
ALL HAVE
FALLEN. ALL HAVE SINNED.
00:26:43.10\00:26:44.40
BUT JESUS SAID, 'NO ONE IS GOOD
BUT GOD AND YOU'RE CALLING ME
00:26:44.40\00:26:46.76
GOOD MASTER.' SO
WHAT WAS JESUS SAYING?
00:26:46.76\00:26:49.73
THAT NONE IS GOOD BUT GOD?
IF ONLY GOD COULD FORGIVE SIN
00:26:49.73\00:26:52.70
AND JESUS FORGAVE
SIN, WHAT WAS JESUS SAYING?
00:26:52.70\00:26:56.36
HE WAS GOD THE SON.
YOU EVER THINK ABOUT THAT?
00:26:56.36\00:26:59.26
HOW BIG GOD IS AND THAT GOD CAME
TO EARTH AND BECAME A MAN TO
00:26:59.26\00:27:04.53
SHOW US WHAT HE WAS LIKE? THAT
WAS A LOT OF LOVE TO DO THAT.
00:27:04.53\00:27:10.16
NOW, EVEN THOUGH
JESUS WAS GOD, WAS HE MAN?
00:27:10.16\00:27:16.56
JUST LET ME GIVE YOU A
COUPLE THINGS TO LOOK AT.
00:27:16.56\00:27:19.10
DID JESUS EXIST BEFORE HE
WAS BORN? NOW I AM COVERING THE
00:27:19.10\00:27:25.46
LESSON, I'M JUST BOUNCING AROUND
A LITTLE, SO STAY WITH ME.
00:27:25.46\00:27:31.33
MICAH 5, VERSE 2 - NOW THESE ARE
VERSES WE TYPICALLY READ AROUND
00:27:31.33\00:27:34.93
CHRISTMAS - MICAH 5:2 - BUT IT'S
A GOOD VERSE FOR THE THEOLOGY.
00:27:34.93\00:27:39.70
"BUT YOU, BETHLEHEM EPHRATHAH,"
- AND THE REASON HE SAYS
00:27:39.70\00:27:43.06
'BETHLEHEM EPHRATHAH' -
BETHLEHEM WAS A SEMI-COMMON
00:27:43.06\00:27:46.23
NAME. THERE WERE AT LEAST A
COUPLE OF TOWNS IN THE LAND OF
00:27:46.23\00:27:51.43
CANAAN CALLED BETHLEHEM - IT
JUST MEANS 'HOUSE OF BREAD' -
00:27:51.43\00:27:53.93
IT'S NOT AN UNCOMMON NAME,
IT JUST MEANT A PLACE WHERE THEY
00:27:53.93\00:27:56.06
GROUND BREAD. AND SO TO AVOID IT
BEING MISUNDERSTOOD WITH ANOTHER
00:27:56.06\00:28:01.60
BETHLEHEM, HE SAYS, 'BETHLEHEM
EPHRATHAH' - THAT'S THE
00:28:01.60\00:28:05.06
BETHLEHEM WHERE RACHEL DIED
GIVING BIRTH TO BENJAMIN AND
00:28:05.06\00:28:09.10
IT'S THE BETHLEHEM THAT WAS
RIGHT BY JERUSALEM - SO THERE'D
00:28:09.10\00:28:12.53
BE NO QUESTION ABOUT
WHICH BETHLEHEM THIS WAS.
00:28:12.53\00:28:15.26
"BUT YOU, BETHLEHEM EPHRATHAH,
THOUGH YOU ARE LITTLE AMONG THE
00:28:15.26\00:28:17.96
THOUSANDS OF JUDAH," - IT
FURTHER TELLS US THIS WAS THE
00:28:17.96\00:28:21.00
BETHLEHEM IN THE SOUTHERN
KINGDOM - IN JUDAH - "'YET OUT
00:28:21.00\00:28:24.06
OF YOU SHALL COME FORTH TO ME
THE ONE TO BE RULER IN ISRAEL,
00:28:24.06\00:28:28.00
WHOSE GOINGS FORTH ARE
FROM OLD, FROM EVERLASTING.'"
00:28:28.00\00:28:32.26
HIS GOINGS FORTH
ARE FROM EVERLASTING.
00:28:32.26\00:28:36.16
NOW, SOME HAVE READ - THERE'S AN
INTERESTING CHAPTER IN PROVERBS
00:28:36.16\00:28:41.30
WHERE SOLOMON IS TALKING ABOUT
WISDOM. AND IN THAT CHAPTER
00:28:41.30\00:28:46.80
WHERE HE TALKS ABOUT WISDOM -
AND THIS IS IN PROVERBS 8:22 -
00:28:46.80\00:28:50.83
IT SAYS, "THE LORD POSSESSED
ME IN THE BEGINNING OF HIS WAY,
00:28:50.83\00:28:55.80
BEFORE HIS WORKS OF OLD. I
WAS SET UP FROM EVERLASTING,
00:28:55.80\00:29:00.76
FROM THE BEGINNING,
OR EVER THE EARTH WAS.
00:29:00.76\00:29:05.53
WHEN THERE WERE NO
DEPTHS I WAS BROUGHT FORTH;"
00:29:05.53\00:29:08.46
- NOW SOME THINK THAT THAT IS
A PROPHECY ABOUT JESUS AND THEY
00:29:08.46\00:29:13.53
USE THAT CHAPTER TO SAY, 'DID
CHRIST EVER HAVE A BEGINNING?
00:29:13.53\00:29:17.46
WELL, IT SAYS HE
WAS BROUGHT FORTH.'
00:29:17.46\00:29:19.73
WHY IS JESUS CALLED
THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON?
00:29:19.73\00:29:23.76
I MEAN, WOULDN'T YOU THINK THAT
IF SOMEBODY WAS BEGOTTEN, THERE
00:29:23.76\00:29:27.33
WAS A MOMENT WHEN THEY
WERE BEGOT? YOU KNOW, THERE ARE
00:29:27.33\00:29:31.90
A LOT OF DEAR PEOPLE OUT THERE
THAT LOVE THE LORD - THEY LOVE
00:29:31.90\00:29:36.66
THE BIBLE - BUT THEY STRUGGLE
WITH THE IDEA OF THE TRINITY.
00:29:36.66\00:29:41.63
AND IT'S NOT THEY DON'T BELIEVE
THERE IS A FATHER, SON AND HOLY
00:29:41.63\00:29:44.40
SPIRIT, BUT THEY DON'T BELIEVE
THAT JESUS IS ETERNAL GOD.
00:29:44.40\00:29:50.03
THEY BELIEVE JESUS CREATED THE
WORLD, BUT THEY BELIEVE THERE
00:29:50.03\00:29:53.70
WAS A POINT WHEN
JESUS DID NOT EXIST.
00:29:53.70\00:29:56.56
THEY BELIEVE THERE WAS NOTHING
ELSE BEFORE HE EXISTED BUT GOD
00:29:56.56\00:29:59.60
THE FATHER, BUT AT SOME POINT -
THEY STRUGGLE WITH THIS - IN THE
00:29:59.60\00:30:04.00
REMOTE RECESSES OF ETERNITY -
GO BACK AS FAR AS YOU CAN GO -
00:30:04.00\00:30:07.60
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO WARP
SPEED - GO BACK AS FAR AS YOU
00:30:07.60\00:30:10.93
CAN GO INTO THE DARK RECESSES
- THERE'S NO STARS, NO NOTHING,
00:30:10.93\00:30:13.96
BUT THERE'S JUST GOD AND GOD
WAS LONELY AND HE BEGOT A SON.
00:30:13.96\00:30:21.33
THEY SAY, 'HE HAD TO HAVE A
BEGINNING.' AND SO THEY SAY,
00:30:21.33\00:30:25.76
'HE'S NOT EQUAL WITH THE
FATHER BECAUSE HE WAS BORN.
00:30:25.76\00:30:31.20
OTHERWISE, HOW CAN
HE BE THE BEGOTTEN SON?
00:30:31.20\00:30:33.23
THEY STRUGGLE
WITH THAT WORD 'BEGOT'.
00:30:33.23\00:30:35.26
BUT DON'T STRUGGLE WITH THAT.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS THERE WAS
00:30:35.26\00:30:37.80
ONLY ONE TIME WHEN
GOD WAS BEGOTTEN AS A MAN.
00:30:37.80\00:30:41.36
SO WHEN CHRIST CAME INTO THIS
WORLD, HE WAS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN
00:30:41.36\00:30:45.00
SON OF GOD WHERE GOD
TOOK ON THE FORM OF A MAN.
00:30:45.00\00:30:48.40
BUT JESUS LIVED ETERNALLY -
DOESN'T CHRIST SAY, 'I AM THE
00:30:48.40\00:30:52.06
ALPHA AND THE OMEGA'?
THAT MEANS YOU FIGURE OUT HOW
00:30:52.06\00:30:55.06
FAR YOU CAN GO IN THAT DIRECTION
AND HOW FAR - HE'S ALWAYS BEEN.
00:30:55.06\00:30:58.93
HE'S - 'FROM EVERLASTING TO
EVERLASTING THOU ART GOD.' IT
00:30:58.93\00:31:03.30
SAYS ABOUT JESUS. NOW
HERE'S A COUPLE OF REASONS
00:31:03.30\00:31:04.96
THAT THAT IDEA THAT JESUS
HAD A BEGINNING DOESN'T WORK.
00:31:04.96\00:31:09.30
AND I BELIEVE THAT THESE PEOPLE
ARE SINCERE AND THEY STRUGGLE
00:31:09.30\00:31:12.06
WITH IT AND I KNOW THE
VERSES THAT MAKE THEM STRUGGLE,
00:31:12.06\00:31:14.20
BUT I THINK THEY'RE WRONG.
IT IS TRUE - THERE ARE SOME OF
00:31:14.20\00:31:20.30
THE FOUNDERS IN THE SEVENTH-DAY
ADVENTIST CHURCH THAT WERE
00:31:20.30\00:31:23.80
ARYANS - THEY DID
NOT BELIEVE IN THE
00:31:23.80\00:31:27.03
ETERNAL EXISTENCE OF CHRIST.
THEY THOUGHT THAT JESUS HAD A
00:31:27.03\00:31:30.50
BEGINNING. THEY
STRUGGLED WITH THE CONCEPT
00:31:30.50\00:31:31.96
OF THE TRINITY.
BUT THEY WERE WRONG.
00:31:31.96\00:31:35.76
JAMES WHITE AND ELLEN
WHITE, THEY BELIEVED THAT.
00:31:35.76\00:31:38.13
THERE WAS EVEN A DIVISION AMONG
THE EARLY ADVENTISTS ON THAT -
00:31:38.13\00:31:40.46
BUT WHEN THEY STUDIED IT OUT
- AND THEN SOME PEOPLE WILL SAY,
00:31:40.46\00:31:42.96
'WELL, WE CAN'T
BELIEVE THAT.' 'WELL, WHY NOT?'
00:31:42.96\00:31:45.16
'BECAUSE THE CATHOLICS
BELIEVE IT.' AS THOUGH ANYTHING
00:31:45.16\00:31:48.06
CATHOLICS BELIEVE IS
AUTOMATICALLY YOU'VE GOT TO
00:31:48.06\00:31:49.93
BELIEVE THE
OPPOSITE. WHERE DO WE GET THAT?
00:31:49.93\00:31:52.76
YES, IT'S TRUE CATHOLICS BELIEVE
IN THE TRINITY - OF COURSE,
00:31:52.76\00:31:55.50
THEY BELIEVE IT A LITTLE
DIFFERENTLY. YOU KNOW, THEY
00:31:55.50\00:31:59.26
SORT OF BELIEVE THAT MARY
WAS ALSO A SINLESS BIRTH -
00:31:59.26\00:32:03.53
THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION IS NOT
ABOUT JESUS, IT'S ABOUT MARY.
00:32:03.53\00:32:07.13
AND YOU CAN PRAY TO MARY AND
SHE INTERCEDES SO MARY IS ALSO A
00:32:07.13\00:32:10.53
MEDIATOR - SO THEY ALMOST HAVE
A HOLY QUARTET AS OPPOSED TO A
00:32:10.53\00:32:13.63
TRINITY, SO THE CATHOLIC
VERSION IS REALLY DIFFERENT.
00:32:13.63\00:32:16.46
DO CATHOLICS BELIEVE
IN REVERENCE IN CHURCH?
00:32:16.46\00:32:19.50
YEAH, SO DOES THAT MEAN WE CAN'T
BELIEVE IN IT BECAUSE THEY DO?
00:32:19.50\00:32:21.70
I MEAN, IT'S CRAZY, THE
IDEA THAT JUST BECAUSE CATHOLICS
00:32:21.70\00:32:23.56
BELIEVE
SOMETHING IT MUST BE WRONG.
00:32:23.56\00:32:25.33
SO ANYWAY, HERE'S ONE OF THE
PROBLEMS WITH THAT IDEA: IS GOD
00:32:25.33\00:32:30.70
LOVE? HOW LONG HAS HE BEEN LOVE?
00:32:30.70\00:32:34.76
FROM EVERLASTING
HE'S BEEN LOVE, RIGHT?
00:32:34.76\00:32:38.23
CAN YOU BE LOVE AND
HAVE NOBODY TO LOVE?
00:32:38.23\00:32:41.66
HOW CAN YOU BE LOVE AND
NOT BE ABLE TO EXPRESS IT?
00:32:41.66\00:32:46.63
IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. SO IN
ORDER FOR GOD TO BE LOVE,
00:32:46.63\00:32:51.03
THAT LOVE MUST ALWAYS
HAVE FOUND SOME EXPRESSION.
00:32:51.03\00:32:54.86
YOU CAN'T HAVE LOVE WITH
ONE PERSON. THE DEVIL TRIED -
00:32:54.86\00:32:57.66
IT'S SELF-LOVE - AND YOU
END UP SELF-DESTRUCTING, RIGHT?
00:32:57.66\00:33:01.33
LOVE MUST ALWAYS BE
GIVEN AWAY FOR IT TO BE LOVE.
00:33:01.33\00:33:04.26
THE SON HAD TO ALWAYS
EXIST FOR GOD TO BE LOVE.
00:33:04.26\00:33:07.73
THE OTHER REASON IS THE BIBLE
SAYS 'ALL THINGS THAT WERE MADE
00:33:07.73\00:33:12.20
WERE MADE BY HIM.
WITHOUT HIM WAS NOT ANYTHING
00:33:12.20\00:33:14.66
MADE - NOT ANYTHING WAS MADE
- THAT WAS MADE.' IF THE FATHER
00:33:14.66\00:33:19.36
MADE JESUS THEN JESUS DIDN'T
MAKE HIMSELF THEN THAT VERSE
00:33:19.36\00:33:22.53
ISN'T TRUE. SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?
00:33:22.53\00:33:26.23
IF ALL THINGS THAT WERE MADE
WERE MADE BY CHRIST - IT DOESN'T
00:33:26.23\00:33:30.03
SAY 'EXCEPT HIMSELF'
- THAT MEANS ALL THINGS.
00:33:30.03\00:33:34.83
THAT MEANS JESUS WASN'T
MADE. JESUS IS NOT A CREATURE -
00:33:34.83\00:33:39.43
A CREATURE IS SOMETHING
CREATED. DID YOU GET THAT?
00:33:39.43\00:33:43.06
JESUS IS A CREATOR.
00:33:43.06\00:33:45.56
AND SO THE IDEA THAT TAKES AWAY
FROM THE TRINITY OF CHRIST, IT
00:33:45.56\00:33:48.86
DIMINISHES THE SACRIFICE
THAT JESUS MADE BECAUSE WHAT'S
00:33:48.86\00:33:52.53
HAPPENING THEN, WHEN IT SAYS,
'GOD GAVE HIS SON' - IT'S LIKE
00:33:52.53\00:33:55.63
GOD SAYING, 'I DON'T WANT TO
GO DOWN THERE AND DIE, I'LL JUST
00:33:55.63\00:33:57.70
CREATE SOMEBODY TO DIE FOR ME.'
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENED.
00:33:57.70\00:34:02.56
GOD, HIMSELF, CAME TO THE WORLD
AND DIED FOR US. SO THERE'S A
00:34:02.56\00:34:07.90
LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH
THAT IDEA THAT JESUS WAS BORN.
00:34:07.90\00:34:11.46
SO WHAT DOES IT MEAN IN PROVERBS
- WE WERE JUST READING THOSE
00:34:11.46\00:34:13.60
VERSES IN PROVERBS - WHEN IT
SAYS, IN CHAPTER 8, "THE LORD
00:34:13.60\00:34:18.73
POSSESSED ME AT THE BEGINNING
OF HIS WAY...I WAS SET UP FROM
00:34:18.73\00:34:22.23
EVERLASTING...I WAS BROUGHT
FORTH...BEFORE THE MOUNTAINS
00:34:22.23\00:34:25.40
WERE SETTLED, BEFORE THE
HILLS, I WAS BROUGHT FORTH."
00:34:25.40\00:34:28.40
YOU READ EARLIER IN THAT CHAPTER
IT'S TALKING ABOUT WISDOM - IT'S
00:34:28.40\00:34:32.90
NOT ABOUT JESUS, IT'S ABOUT
WISDOM. IT IS A SOLILOQUY -
00:34:32.90\00:34:36.23
IT'S POETIC. PROVERBS
IS TALKING ABOUT WISDOM
00:34:36.23\00:34:39.60
- 'WISDOM HAS BUILT ITS HOUSE.'
IT'S ALMOST GIVING PERSONALITY
00:34:39.60\00:34:42.70
TO WISDOM. IT'S NOT ABOUT JESUS.
JUST DON'T FORGET THAT AND
00:34:42.70\00:34:45.76
YOU'LL HAVE NO
PROBLEM WITH THIS.
00:34:45.76\00:34:46.96
IT'S TALKING ABOUT WISDOM
WAS BROUGHT FORTH AT THE VERY
00:34:46.96\00:34:48.76
BEGINNING. GOD DIDN'T
DO ANYTHING WITHOUT WISDOM.
00:34:48.76\00:34:51.43
THAT'S ALL IT'S SAYING.
SO JESUS HAS ALWAYS EXISTED.
00:34:51.43\00:34:56.33
ALRIGHT, THE SON OF MAN - ONE OF
THE FAVORITE TITLES OF CHRIST.
00:34:56.33\00:35:00.56
SOMEONE LOOK UP FOR ME DANIEL
7:13 - WHO HAS THAT VERSE?
00:35:00.56\00:35:05.23
WE'LL GET YOU A
MICROPHONE, CATHLEEN.
00:35:05.23\00:35:07.63
AND I'M GOING TO
READ EZEKIEL 3:17.
00:35:07.63\00:35:11.53
JESUS' FAVORITE DESIGNATION FOR
HIMSELF WAS 'THE SON OF MAN.' HE
00:35:11.53\00:35:16.20
USED IT ABOUT 87
TIMES IN THE GOSPELS.
00:35:16.20\00:35:20.26
OF THE OLD TESTAMENT PROPHETS,
WHO DO YOU THINK USES THAT TERM
00:35:20.26\00:35:23.96
THE MOST? OF THE OLD
TESTAMENT PROPHETS? EZEKIEL.
00:35:23.96\00:35:29.86
EZEKIEL USES THE PHRASE 'SON
OF MAN' MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE.
00:35:29.86\00:35:33.00
MATTER OF FACT, OFTEN WHEN GOD
SPOKE TO EZEKIEL HE SAID, 'SON
00:35:33.00\00:35:35.13
OF MAN DO THIS. SON
OF MAN DO THAT.' WHY?
00:35:35.13\00:35:37.93
I DON'T KNOW BUT THAT'S THE
WAY HE ADDRESSED EZEKIEL AND HE
00:35:37.93\00:35:40.60
DIDN'T ALWAYS
THE OTHER PROPHETS.
00:35:40.60\00:35:45.03
YOU CAN SEE IN VERSE - EZEKIEL
3:17, "SON OF MAN, I HAVE MADE
00:35:45.03\00:35:48.96
THEE A WATCHMAN UNTO THE HOUSE
OF ISRAEL; THEREFORE HEAR THE
00:35:48.96\00:35:51.56
WORD AT MY MOUTH, AND
GIVE THEM WARNING FROM ME."
00:35:51.56\00:35:55.40
NOW JESUS REFERRED TO
HIMSELF AS 'SON OF MAN' - WHY?
00:35:55.40\00:36:01.83
HE WANTED US TO KNOW THAT HE
LOVED US AND HE'S IDENTIFYING
00:36:01.83\00:36:05.33
WITH US - THAT HE
BECAME ONE OF US TO SAVE US.
00:36:05.33\00:36:09.23
HE LOVED TO REMIND US
THAT HE BECAME ONE OF US.
00:36:09.23\00:36:12.50
NOW, KEEP IN MIND, AS WE TALK
ABOUT JESUS AND YOU TALK ABOUT
00:36:12.50\00:36:16.76
DIVINITY - ANY PREACHER THAT
DOES THIS NEEDS TO DO IT WITH A
00:36:16.76\00:36:20.13
PRETTY HEALTHY DOSE OF HUMILITY
BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO KEEP IN
00:36:20.13\00:36:23.93
MIND, AS THE HEAVENS
ARE HIGH ABOVE THE EARTH,
00:36:23.93\00:36:26.73
SO ARE HIS WAYS ABOVE OUR WAYS.
00:36:26.73\00:36:28.76
AND SO AS I'M NOW ATTEMPTING
TO TEACH YOU ABOUT JESUS AND THE
00:36:28.76\00:36:31.66
NATURE AND CHARACTER OF JESUS,
WE'RE ON HOLY GROUND AND YOU'VE
00:36:31.66\00:36:35.10
GOT TO ADMIT YOU
DON'T - THERE'S MYSTERIES.
00:36:35.10\00:36:37.80
THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT
THE MYSTERY OF GODLINESS.
00:36:37.80\00:36:39.56
YOU'VE GOT THE MYSTERY OF
INIQUITY IN THE BIBLE, YOU'VE
00:36:39.56\00:36:42.23
GOT THE MYSTERY OF GOD.
AND HOW GOD COULD STILL BE GOD
00:36:42.23\00:36:47.00
AND BECOME HUMAN - THE
INCARNATION - IS A MYSTERY.
00:36:47.00\00:36:51.06
THERE'S THINGS ABOUT IT THAT
EVERY HONEST PREACHER IS GOING
00:36:51.06\00:36:53.50
TO SAY, 'I CAN'T FULLY EXPLAIN.
IF I COULD THEN I'D BE GOD
00:36:53.50\00:36:58.96
BECAUSE HOW CAN I EXPLAIN
GOD?' I MEAN, HE'S THE CREATOR.
00:36:58.96\00:37:03.43
WE'RE CREATURES.
IT'S MUCH BIGGER.
00:37:03.43\00:37:05.36
IT'S WONDERFUL AS HE REVEALS
ELEMENTS AND OUR MINDS CONTINUE
00:37:05.36\00:37:08.73
TO GO 'WOW!' THROUGH
ETERNITY GOD'LL CONTINUE
00:37:08.73\00:37:10.80
TO SHOW US NEW TRUTH AND WE'LL
NEVER KNOW WHAT HE KNOWS EVEN
00:37:10.80\00:37:14.86
THOUGH WE'LL
FOREVER BE LEARNING.
00:37:14.86\00:37:16.43
DOES GOD LEARN?
THAT'S A TRICK QUESTION.
00:37:16.43\00:37:22.03
I WAS STUDYING WITH SOME FRIENDS
OF MINE THAT GO DOOR TO DOOR TWO
00:37:22.03\00:37:26.06
BY TWO AND THEY
GIVE BIBLE STUDIES.
00:37:26.06\00:37:29.06
THEY CAME TO OUR HOUSE, I
WAS STUDYING WITH THEM, AND
00:37:29.06\00:37:31.16
BASICALLY THEY SAID, 'YEAH, OUR
GOD IS ACTUALLY THE GOD OF OUR
00:37:31.16\00:37:34.66
UNIVERSE BUT THERE ARE OTHER
GODS OF OTHER UNIVERSES AND OUR
00:37:34.66\00:37:37.96
GOD USED TO BE A LOWER CREATURE
AND OVER TIME HE CONTINUED TO
00:37:37.96\00:37:41.73
LEARN UNTIL HE WAS PROMOTED
TO BE GOD OF HIS OWN UNIVERSE.'
00:37:41.73\00:37:45.63
AND YOU KNOW
WHAT CHURCH THIS IS?
00:37:45.63\00:37:49.00
AND SO I SAID, 'YOU'RE TELLING
ME THAT GOD CONTINUES TO LEARN?'
00:37:49.00\00:37:52.26
'YES.' I SAID, 'DOES GOD KNOW
EVERYTHING?' 'WELL, COMPARED TO
00:37:52.26\00:37:56.46
US HE KNOWS EVERYTHING.'
I SAID, 'WAIT A SECOND.
00:37:56.46\00:37:59.20
DOES THE BIBLE SAY
THAT GOD IS OMNISCIENT?
00:37:59.20\00:38:02.30
IS HE ALL-KNOWING?' IF
YOU'RE LEARNING AND YOU KNOW
00:38:02.30\00:38:06.10
ETERNITY IN THE FUTURE AND
YOU KNOW ETERNITY IN THE PAST.
00:38:06.10\00:38:09.70
IF YOU ARE THE QUINTESSENCE
OF KNOWLEDGE THEN YOU'RE NOT
00:38:09.70\00:38:13.73
LEARNING ANYTHING.
IT'S SORT OF LIKE BEING A
00:38:13.73\00:38:17.53
TEENAGER - YOU
THINK YOU KNOW EVERYTHING.
00:38:17.53\00:38:23.83
GOD KNOWS EVERYTHING,
RIGHT? SO IS HE EVER LEARNING?
00:38:23.83\00:38:28.46
YOU'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE
THERE ARE EVEN SOME PASTORS OUT
00:38:28.46\00:38:30.36
THERE THAT SAY, 'GOD'S ON A
JOURNEY.' GOD'S ON A JOURNEY
00:38:30.36\00:38:33.50
LIKE 'HE'S FINDING OUT WHAT'S
AROUND THE NEXT CORNER.' I HEARD
00:38:33.50\00:38:38.06
A PASTOR ON THE RADIO SAY THAT
YESTERDAY - SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
00:38:38.06\00:38:41.80
HE SAID, 'GOD DIDN'T KNOW
WHAT JONAH WAS GOING TO DO.
00:38:41.80\00:38:44.50
HE WAS KIND OF
WAITING TO FIND OUT.'
00:38:44.50\00:38:45.80
I SAID, 'WHAT?
GOD KNOWS EVERYTHING.
00:38:45.80\00:38:48.60
HE KNOWS EXACTLY
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
00:38:48.60\00:38:50.66
IT DOESN'T MEAN WE
DON'T HAVE A FREE WILL.
00:38:50.66\00:38:52.76
THE FACT THAT HE'S ALL-KNOWING
AND SOVEREIGN DOESN'T MEAN THAT
00:38:52.76\00:38:55.60
WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.
HE KNOWS WHAT OUR CHOICE IS
00:38:55.60\00:38:57.76
GOING TO BE BUT YOU
STILL HAVE FREEDOM OF CHOICE.
00:38:57.76\00:39:01.33
HE GIVES IT TO YOU
AND HE RESPECTS THAT.
00:39:01.33\00:39:03.23
HE JUST KNOWS EVERYTHING.
ALRIGHT, DANIEL 7:13 -
00:39:03.23\00:39:08.36
WHO HAS THAT? LET'S
GO AHEAD AND READ THAT.
00:39:08.36\00:39:11.56
>>DANIEL 7:13, "I WAS WATCHING
IN THE NIGHT VISIONS, AND
00:39:11.56\00:39:16.30
BEHOLD, ONE LIKE THE SON OF
MAN, COMING WITH THE CLOUDS OF
00:39:16.30\00:39:20.26
HEAVEN! HE CAME TO
THE ANCIENT OF DAYS,
00:39:20.26\00:39:24.03
AND THEY BROUGHT
HIM NEAR BEFORE HIM."
00:39:24.03\00:39:26.86
>>YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING
THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE PLACES
00:39:26.86\00:39:29.56
IN THE BIBLE WHERE YOU ACTUALLY
SEE A GLIMPSE OF THE FATHER AND
00:39:29.56\00:39:32.96
THE SON TOGETHER. YOU
SEE A LOT OF ANALOGIES OF
00:39:32.96\00:39:36.80
THAT IN THE BIBLE WHERE ABRAHAM
IS GOING UP THE MOUNTAIN WITH
00:39:36.80\00:39:39.73
ISAAC. AND YOU CAN
SEE PICTURES OF THE
00:39:39.73\00:39:43.60
FATHER AND THE SON. YOU
SEE, YOU KNOW, THE LOVE OF
00:39:43.60\00:39:48.23
JACOB FOR JOSEPH.
JOSEPH WAS AN OLD MAN - I'M
00:39:48.23\00:39:51.20
SORRY, JACOB WAS AN OLD
MAN WHEN JOSEPH WAS BORN.
00:39:51.20\00:39:53.86
JACOB, YOU MIGHT SAY,
WAS AN ANCIENT OF DAYS.
00:39:53.86\00:39:56.23
WAS ABRAHAM YOUNG OR OLD
WHEN ISAAC WAS BORN? OLD.
00:39:56.23\00:40:01.16
HE WAS LIKE - HE WAS AN
ANCIENT FATHER OF A YOUNG SON.
00:40:01.16\00:40:04.83
AND JESSE HAD THIS YOUNG BOY
NAMED DAVID AND YOU KNOW WHAT IT
00:40:04.83\00:40:10.00
SAYS ABOUT JESSE? HE WAS AN
OLD MAN WHEN DAVID WAS ALIVE -
00:40:10.00\00:40:14.76
WHEN DAVID WENT OUT AND FOUGHT
THE GIANT. SO YOU SEE THIS
00:40:14.76\00:40:17.46
PICTURE ALL THROUGH THE BIBLE OF
THE FATHER AND THE SON, BUT HERE
00:40:17.46\00:40:20.76
YOU ACTUALLY SEE
THEM IN VISION TOGETHER.
00:40:20.76\00:40:23.20
YOU SEE THE THRONE OF GOD IN
REVELATION AND YOU SEE A LAMB
00:40:23.20\00:40:26.76
THAT WAS SLAIN
BEFORE THE THRONE.
00:40:26.76\00:40:28.70
AGAIN, YOU SEE A PICTURE
OF THE FATHER AND THE SON.
00:40:28.70\00:40:32.33
AND SO JESUS IS
IDENTIFIED AS THE SON OF MAN.
00:40:32.33\00:40:36.00
DANIEL, OF COURSE, SAW
CHRIST IN THE FIERY FURNACE.
00:40:36.00\00:40:39.63
WHEN HE WROTE IT - DANIEL WASN'T
ACTUALLY THERE THAT DAY BUT IT
00:40:39.63\00:40:41.56
TALKS ABOUT NEBUCHADNEZZAR
SAYING, 'ONE LIKE THE SON OF
00:40:41.56\00:40:44.56
GOD' WAS IN THE FURNACE WITH
SHADRACH, MESHACH, AND ABEDNEGO,
00:40:44.56\00:40:49.40
RIGHT? AND YOU
CAN LOOK IN MATTHEW
00:40:49.40\00:40:53.46
13:55 - THE PEOPLE JUST SAW
JESUS - THEY THOUGHT HE WAS JUST
00:40:53.46\00:40:58.30
ONE OF US. I
MEAN, THINK ABOUT IT.
00:40:58.30\00:41:00.76
EVEN CHRIST'S OWN FAMILY -
HIS OWN BROTHERS - BEFORE HIS
00:41:00.76\00:41:05.53
RESURRECTION -
THEY THOUGHT, 'YOU KNOW,
00:41:05.53\00:41:07.46
JESUS IS AN UNUSUAL
BOY. HE'S A VERY GOOD BOY.
00:41:07.46\00:41:10.00
WE COULD NEVER GET HIM TO
GET INVOLVED IN THE MISCHIEF AND
00:41:10.00\00:41:12.40
TROUBLE THAT WE
GOT INVOLVED IN.'
00:41:12.40\00:41:14.56
BUT THEY THOUGHT HE
WAS HUMAN, DIDN'T THEY?
00:41:14.56\00:41:20.40
HIS BROTHERS TRIED
TO STRAIGHTEN HIM OUT.
00:41:20.40\00:41:25.30
THEY DIDN'T
UNDERSTAND HIS ANOINTING.
00:41:25.30\00:41:28.46
WAS JOSEPH
MISUNDERSTOOD BY HIS BROTHERS?
00:41:28.46\00:41:31.33
WAS DAVID MISUNDERSTOOD BY HIS
BROTHERS - THE SPECIAL CALLING
00:41:31.33\00:41:36.26
THAT GOD HAD ON DAVID?
AND JESUS WAS MISUNDERSTOOD.
00:41:36.26\00:41:39.50
LOOK IN MATTHEW 13:55, "IS
NOT THIS THE CARPENTER'S SON?"
00:41:39.50\00:41:44.86
- WHEN JESUS WENT TO NAZARETH
TO PREACH - "IS NOT HIS MOTHER
00:41:44.86\00:41:47.70
CALLED MARY?" AND HIS
BROTHERS - HERE IT LISTS
00:41:47.70\00:41:50.53
AT LEAST FOUR OF THEM - JAMES,
AND JOSES, SIMON, AND JUDAS.
00:41:50.53\00:41:54.86
WHEN YOU READ THE BOOK OF JAMES
IN THE BIBLE, YOU'RE READING -
00:41:54.86\00:41:57.90
THAT'S THE BROTHER
OF JESUS WHO WROTE THAT.
00:41:57.90\00:42:00.06
HE ENDED UP BECOMING, SORT OF,
CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD FOR THE
00:42:00.06\00:42:02.03
CHURCH IN JERUSALEM. AND
IT SAYS JESUS HAD SISTERS.
00:42:02.03\00:42:07.83
THESE ARE PROBABLY HIS
HALF SISTERS THROUGH JOSEPH.
00:42:07.83\00:42:10.46
IT DOESN'T TELL US THEIR NAMES,
BUT JESUS HAD BROTHERS AND
00:42:10.46\00:42:12.43
SISTERS. HE HAD AT
LEAST TWO - HE MIGHT
00:42:12.43\00:42:14.40
HAVE HAD FIVE - WE DON'T KNOW.
SO HE HAD A FAMILY AND HE GREW
00:42:14.40\00:42:18.46
UP AND THEY SAID, 'ISN'T
THIS THE CARPENTER'S SON?'
00:42:18.46\00:42:21.33
THE PEOPLE OF THE COMMUNITY KNEW
HIM. THEY SAW, 'YEAH, YOU LIVE
00:42:21.33\00:42:23.50
IN THE HOUSE WHERE
JOSEPH, THE CARPENTER, LIVED.
00:42:23.50\00:42:26.73
AND WITH MARY AND WE
KNOWN THEM ALL AND WHAT?
00:42:26.73\00:42:30.00
HE'S THE MESSIAH?' SO
JESUS WAS SO HUMAN THAT -
00:42:30.00\00:42:35.56
COULD HE DISAPPEAR IN A CROWD?
WHY DID THEY HAVE TO PAY JUDAS
00:42:35.56\00:42:39.60
TO IDENTIFY HIM IN
THE GARDEN OF GETHSEMANE?
00:42:39.60\00:42:42.50
BECAUSE HE LOOKED
LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, RIGHT?
00:42:42.50\00:42:45.53
YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS SEE THE
PICTURES OF JESUS PAINTED AND
00:42:45.53\00:42:47.46
HE'S WEARING THIS STUNNING WHITE
ROBE WITH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'LL
00:42:47.46\00:42:51.46
HAVE BLUE TASSELS ON IT AND HE
JUST ALWAYS LOOKS LIKE A MOVIE
00:42:51.46\00:42:54.66
STAR AND HE'S NEVER DIRTY.
HIS ROBE IS ALWAYS CLEAN AND I
00:42:54.66\00:43:01.03
JUST - I KIND OF PICTURE HIM
THAT WAY TOO JUST BECAUSE OF ALL
00:43:01.03\00:43:03.23
THE PAINTINGS
THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT.
00:43:03.23\00:43:05.53
BUT, IN REALITY, IT WAS PROBABLY
PRETTY HARD TO TELL JESUS APART
00:43:05.53\00:43:10.30
FROM THE AVERAGE CARPENTERS
AND FISHERMEN AND SHEPHERDS THAT
00:43:10.30\00:43:15.70
LIVED IN THE DAY BACK THEN.
HE - THE BIBLE SAYS THERE WAS NO
00:43:15.70\00:43:19.40
OUTWARD BEAUTY THAT
WE SHOULD DESIRE HIM.
00:43:19.40\00:43:23.60
HE LOOKED LIKE EVERYBODY
ELSE. SO WHO WAS JESUS?
00:43:23.60\00:43:30.66
ALRIGHT, IT SAYS
HE'S THE SON OF GOD.
00:43:30.66\00:43:32.16
LUKE 1:35, "AND THE ANGEL
ANSWERED AND SAID UNTO HER, 'THE
00:43:32.16\00:43:36.30
HOLY SPIRIT WILL COME UPON YOU,
AND THE POWER OF THE HIGHEST
00:43:36.30\00:43:38.86
WILL OVERSHADOW YOU; THEREFORE,
ALSO, THAT HOLY ONE WHO IS TO BE
00:43:38.86\00:43:43.20
BORN WILL BE
CALLED THE SON OF GOD.'"
00:43:43.20\00:43:46.80
SO JESUS, ONE OF HIS NAMES
IS 'THE SON OF GOD.' NOW, IN A
00:43:46.80\00:43:52.30
SENSE, ARE WE
NOT ALL SONS OF GOD?
00:43:52.30\00:43:57.40
'BEHOLD WHAT MANNER OF LOVE THE
FATHER HAS BESTOWED ON US THAT
00:43:57.40\00:44:00.83
WE SHOULD BE CALLED 'SONS OF
GOD.'' IN THE BEGINNING IT SAYS,
00:44:00.83\00:44:04.36
'WHEN THE SONS OF GOD CAME TO
KNOW THE DAUGHTERS OF MEN.' THAT
00:44:04.36\00:44:07.16
MEANS, WHEN THE DESCENDENTS OF
SETH THAT WERE THE CHILDREN OF
00:44:07.16\00:44:09.43
GOD, BEGAN TO INTERMARRY WITH
THE DAUGHTERS OF CAIN - THEY
00:44:09.43\00:44:12.03
WERE CALLED THE SONS OF GOD -
THEN THINGS REALLY KIND OF WENT
00:44:12.03\00:44:15.86
TO POT IN THE WORLD AND GOD SAYS
'THE THOUGHTS OF MEN'S HEARTS
00:44:15.86\00:44:19.56
WERE ONLY EVIL CONTINUALLY.'
ISAIAH TALKS ABOUT US BEING
00:44:19.56\00:44:22.50
THE SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF GOD.
00:44:22.50\00:44:24.80
AND SO, WE ARE CHILDREN
OF GOD IN THAT SENSE BUT WHEN
00:44:24.80\00:44:27.96
JESUS IS CALLED - THERE'S A
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US BEING SONS
00:44:27.96\00:44:32.16
AND DAUGHTERS OF GOD AND
CHRIST BEING 'THE' SON OF GOD.
00:44:32.16\00:44:35.80
WHEN YOU SAY
'THE' WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
00:44:35.80\00:44:38.13
IF I SAY, 'CAN YOU
PLEASE BRING ME THE PEN?'
00:44:38.13\00:44:40.90
IF I SAY, 'BRING ME A PEN OR
A PENCIL' THAT MEANS IT COULD BE
00:44:40.90\00:44:44.00
ANYONE'S PEN OR
PENCIL IN THE ROOM, RIGHT?
00:44:44.00\00:44:46.13
BUT WHEN I SAY, 'BRING ME 'THE
PEN' YOU'RE THINKING THERE'S A
00:44:46.13\00:44:49.40
DEFINITE ARTICLE. THERE'S
A SPECIFIC PEN SOMEWHERE.
00:44:49.40\00:44:52.36
SO WHEN JESUS IS CALLED 'THE
SON OF GOD' THAT MEANS HE IS THE
00:44:52.36\00:44:55.36
ULTIMATE EXPRESSION
OF GOD BECOMING A MAN.
00:44:55.36\00:44:58.60
THERE'S SOMETHING UNIQUE
ABOUT HIM. JOHN 1:49, "NATHANAEL
00:44:58.60\00:45:02.73
ANSWERED AND SAID TO HIM,
'RABBI, YOU ARE THE SON OF GOD!
00:45:02.73\00:45:05.66
YOU ARE THE KING OF ISRAEL!'"
MARK 15:39, SO WHEN THE
00:45:05.66\00:45:08.90
CENTURION SAW HIM - WHEN HE WAS
ON THE CROSS - "THAT HE CRIED
00:45:08.90\00:45:13.13
OUT LIKE THIS AND BREATHED
HIS LAST, HE SAID," - THIS IS A
00:45:13.13\00:45:15.60
ROMAN CENTURION - "'TRULY THIS
MAN WAS THE SON OF GOD.'" SO
00:45:15.60\00:45:19.73
EVEN THE ROMANS, THE PAGANS, AND
A LOT OF WORLD RELIGIONS KNEW
00:45:19.73\00:45:22.93
THAT GOD WAS GOING TO SOMEHOW
MANIFEST HIMSELF AND BE COMING
00:45:22.93\00:45:25.53
TO EARTH. HE SAID THIS
WAS HIM, THE SON OF GOD.
00:45:25.53\00:45:29.20
NOW, THIS - WE'RE DELVING
NOW, AGAIN, INTO SOME DIFFICULT
00:45:29.20\00:45:33.83
SUBJECTS. JESUS -
IS JESUS A HUNDRED
00:45:33.83\00:45:37.06
PERCENT GOD OR WAS HE
ONLY NINETY PERCENT GOD?
00:45:37.06\00:45:41.23
WHEN CHRIST BECAME A MAN, WHILE
HE STILL WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT
00:45:41.23\00:45:46.63
THE SON OF GOD, HE LAID ASIDE AN
ELEMENT OF HIS ETERNAL KNOWLEDGE
00:45:46.63\00:45:52.60
AND POWER SO THAT HE
COULD DWELL IN A HUMAN BODY.
00:45:52.60\00:45:56.96
WHEN CHRIST WAS IN A HUMAN BODY
AND HE HAD A BRAIN LIKE YOU AND
00:45:56.96\00:45:59.73
I HAVE, DID HE KNOW ALL
THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE
00:45:59.73\00:46:05.06
UNIVERSE AT ONE TIME? HE
ONLY KNEW WHAT THE FATHER
00:46:05.06\00:46:08.16
REVEALED TO HIM. HE
LAID ASIDE THAT ELEMENT - WHY
00:46:08.16\00:46:11.20
DO YOU THINK JESUS SAID, 'NO MAN
KNOWS THE DAY OR THE HOUR OF MY
00:46:11.20\00:46:13.66
COMING, NOT EVEN THE SON, BUT
THE FATHER ONLY'? HE KNOWS NOW,
00:46:13.66\00:46:16.66
GOD THE FATHER'S NOT HIDING
THAT INFORMATION FROM JESUS
00:46:16.66\00:46:19.96
BECAUSE HE CAN'T BE TRUSTED, BUT
WHEN HE WAS ON EARTH HE SAYS,
00:46:19.96\00:46:23.66
'I DON'T HAVE
ALL KNOWLEDGE NOW.'
00:46:23.66\00:46:25.33
GOD THE FATHER
HAS ULTIMATE POWER.
00:46:25.33\00:46:28.13
WHEN CHRIST WAS ON THE EARTH
IT DOESN'T SAY HE EVER TOOK ON
00:46:28.13\00:46:31.66
ANYBODY LIKE SAMPSON DID OR
DAVID FIGHTING LIONS AND BEARS.
00:46:31.66\00:46:35.66
JESUS HAD THE SAME KIND OF
PHYSICAL STRENGTH AND POWER THAT
00:46:35.66\00:46:39.20
THE AVERAGE MAN
WOULD HAVE, RIGHT?
00:46:39.20\00:46:41.90
AND SO HE ONLY HAD THE
ADDITIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND THE
00:46:41.90\00:46:44.80
ADDITIONAL POWER AS
THE FATHER GAVE IT TO HIM.
00:46:44.80\00:46:47.00
SO HE LAID ASIDE - HE
MADE HIMSELF OF NO REPUTATION,
00:46:47.00\00:46:49.80
BUT HE WAS STILL
EQUAL WITH THE FATHER.
00:46:49.80\00:46:53.23
JESUS SAID, JOHN 10:30,
"I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE."
00:46:53.23\00:46:59.23
PHILIPPIANS 2:6, "...BEING
IN THE FORM OF GOD, DID NOT
00:46:59.23\00:47:03.40
CONSIDER IT ROBBERY
TO BE EQUAL WITH GOD."
00:47:03.40\00:47:06.26
THAT MEANS IT
WASN'T A MISSTATEMENT.
00:47:06.26\00:47:08.60
IT WASN'T OVERSTATED
THAT HE WAS EQUAL TO GOD.
00:47:08.60\00:47:11.20
IT WASN'T ROBBING GOD OF
ANYTHING OR TAKING A TITLE THAT
00:47:11.20\00:47:13.90
HE DID NOT DESERVE.
00:47:13.90\00:47:15.46
IT SAYS CHRIST DECLARED
THAT HE WAS EQUAL WITH GOD.
00:47:15.46\00:47:19.30
JOHN 17:5, "AND NOW, O
FATHER, GLORIFY ME TOGETHER WITH
00:47:19.30\00:47:23.50
YOURSELF, WITH THE GLORY WHICH
I HAD WITH YOU BEFORE THE WORLD
00:47:23.50\00:47:27.66
WAS." SO WE SEE, WHEN JESUS SAID
00:47:27.66\00:47:30.06
'BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS, I
AM' - HE SAYS HE PRE-EXISTED.
00:47:30.06\00:47:36.10
WHEN CHRIST PRE-EXISTED
SOMETIMES HE WAS REFERRED TO IN
00:47:36.10\00:47:39.13
THE OLD TESTAMENT AS 'THE ONE
WHO IS AS GOD' - YOU KNOW HOW
00:47:39.13\00:47:42.10
YOU SAY THAT? 'MICHAEL.'
THE ONE WHO IS AS GOD.
00:47:42.10\00:47:47.76
THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANS - OR
'WHO IS LIKE GOD?' SOMETIMES IT
00:47:47.76\00:47:51.06
COULD BE A STATEMENT.
IT COULD BE A QUESTION.
00:47:51.06\00:47:53.36
AND SO WHY DO YOU THINK WHEN
THIS GENERAL APPEARS TO JOSHUA
00:47:53.36\00:47:59.43
BEFORE JOSHUA GOES TO BATTLE - A
GENERAL APPEARS AND JOSHUA SEES
00:47:59.43\00:48:04.23
HIM AND HE SAYS, 'ARE YOU
WITH US OR FOR OUR ENEMIES?'
00:48:04.23\00:48:07.96
HE SAID, 'NO, BUT I'M HERE
AS THE COMMANDER OF THE LORD'S
00:48:07.96\00:48:09.70
ARMY.' AND WHEN JOSHUA REALIZED
WHO HE WAS, HE KNELT DOWN TO
00:48:09.70\00:48:14.06
WORSHIP HIM. AND WHAT DID JESUS
SAY? 'NO, DON'T WORSHIP ME.
00:48:14.06\00:48:17.53
THE BIBLE SAYS YOU
SHOULD ONLY WORSHIP GOD.
00:48:17.53\00:48:19.16
IT'S IN THE TEN COMMANDMENTS.'
NO, HE SAID - NOT ONLY SHOULD
00:48:19.16\00:48:23.30
YOU WORSHIP ME - HE SAID, 'TAKE
YOUR SHOES OFF, THIS IS HOLY
00:48:23.30\00:48:26.33
GROUND.' THE SAME THING THAT
THE 'I AM' SAID TO MOSES, THIS
00:48:26.33\00:48:30.90
GENERAL - IT'S ONE OF THE
PRE-INCARNATION MANIFESTATIONS
00:48:30.90\00:48:37.13
OF CHRIST. JESUS
APPEARS TO JOSHUA.
00:48:37.13\00:48:39.93
THAT'S WHAT HE SAID, RIGHT?
SO HE HUMBLED HIMSELF WHEN HE
00:48:39.93\00:48:44.00
CAME TO THIS EARTH.
OKAY, WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME
00:48:44.00\00:48:47.10
AND I'VE GOT A LOT
OF - LOT OF LESSON LEFT.
00:48:47.10\00:48:49.80
I'LL PUT MY NOTES ON THE
INTERNET FOR THINGS THAT MAYBE I
00:48:49.80\00:48:51.86
DON'T GET TO - FOR ANY TEACHERS
THAT MAY WANT TO USE THIS.
00:48:51.86\00:48:55.10
SO DID CHRIST SUBMIT HIMSELF TO
THE FATHER WHEN HE WAS HERE ON
00:48:55.10\00:49:00.50
EARTH? I BELIEVE THE
ANSWER TO THAT IS YES.
00:49:00.50\00:49:07.03
1 CORINTHIANS 11:3, "BUT I WOULD
HAVE YOU KNOW, THAT THE HEAD OF
00:49:07.03\00:49:11.46
EVERY MAN IS CHRIST; AND THE
HEAD OF THE WOMAN IS THE MAN;" -
00:49:11.46\00:49:14.96
THAT'S A VERY CONTENTIOUS VERSE
THESE DAYS - "AND THE HEAD OF
00:49:14.96\00:49:17.53
CHRIST IS GOD." THE
HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD.
00:49:17.53\00:49:20.36
SO WE ALL AGREE THAT, AT LEAST
WHILE JESUS WAS ON EARTH, HE
00:49:20.36\00:49:23.36
RECOGNIZED THE
FATHER IN SOME SUPERIOR WAY.
00:49:23.36\00:49:26.23
WHILE THEY ARE CO-EQUAL, THERE
IS STILL A SUBMISSION ON THE
00:49:26.23\00:49:29.66
PART OF JESUS. IT'S HARD TO
MISUNDERSTAND THAT VERSE, RIGHT?
00:49:29.66\00:49:34.53
'NOW YOU KNOW THAT THE HEAD OF
EVERY MAN IS CHRIST; THE HEAD OF
00:49:34.53\00:49:37.70
THE WOMAN IS MAN; AND THE HEAD
OF CHRIST IS GOD.' 'FOR GOD SO
00:49:37.70\00:49:41.60
LOVED THE WORLD, HE GAVE HIS
SON.' WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO
00:49:41.60\00:49:45.63
GIVE? THE ONE WHO OWNS.
00:49:45.63\00:49:48.16
THE ONE WHO HAS
SOME KIND OF SUPERIORITY.
00:49:48.16\00:49:49.76
THE FATHER IS
GIVING THE SON, RIGHT?
00:49:49.76\00:49:53.16
'FOR GOD DID NOT SEND THE SON
INTO THE WORLD TO CONDEMN.' WHO
00:49:53.16\00:49:56.16
SENDS THE SON? WHO
HAS THE SUPREME AUTHORITY?
00:49:56.16\00:49:59.46
THE ONE SENT OR
THE ONE SENDING? RIGHT?
00:49:59.46\00:50:04.90
MY SONS DON'T SAY, 'DAD, GO OUT
AND GET THE MAIL.' I SAY, 'NO,
00:50:04.90\00:50:10.23
YOU GO OUT AND GET THE MAIL.' SO
THERE'S AN AUTHORITY - THERE'S A
00:50:10.23\00:50:15.06
RESPECT HERE - IT'S EVEN IN JOHN
3:16, YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?
00:50:15.06\00:50:18.93
EPHESIANS 3:9 - YOU
JUST JOT THESE DOWN.
00:50:18.93\00:50:21.50
BY THE WAY, SOMEONE LOOK UP FOR
ME JOHN 14:28 - DID SOMEONE GET
00:50:21.50\00:50:24.26
THAT VERSE? RIGHT
HERE, MIKE - LET'S GET A
00:50:24.26\00:50:26.36
MICROPHONE OVER HERE.
MICROPHONE, RIGHT HERE, OKAY.
00:50:26.36\00:50:29.40
WE'LL GET YOU READY.
00:50:29.40\00:50:30.76
LET'S LOOK AT JOHN 5:19 AND 20,
"THEN JESUS ANSWERED AND SAID TO
00:50:30.76\00:50:37.03
THEM, 'MOST ASSUREDLY, I SAY TO
YOU, THE SON CAN DO NOTHING OF
00:50:37.03\00:50:40.06
HIMSELF, BUT WHAT HE SEES THE
FATHER DO; FOR WHATEVER HE DOES,
00:50:40.06\00:50:43.53
THE SON ALSO
DOES IN LIKE MANNER.
00:50:43.53\00:50:45.20
FOR THE FATHER LOVES THE SON,
AND SHOWS HIM ALL THINGS THAT HE
00:50:45.20\00:50:48.60
HIMSELF DOES; AND HE WILL SHOW
HIM GREATER WORKS THAN THESE,
00:50:48.60\00:50:52.13
THAT YOU MAY MARVEL."
THE FATHER REVEALED THINGS TO
00:50:52.13\00:50:54.66
JESUS WHILE HE WAS ON
EARTH. HE HAD LIMITED KNOWLEDGE.
00:50:54.66\00:50:57.50
YOU AND I CAN HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF
CHRIST'S WILL AS GOD REVEALS IT
00:50:57.50\00:51:00.56
TO US. NOW HERE'S
THE BIG QUESTION -
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YOU GO AHEAD MIKE.
YOU READ YOUR VERSE.
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>>JOHN 14, VERSE 28, "YOU HAVE
HEARD ME SAY TO YOU, 'I AM GOING
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AWAY AND COMING BACK TO YOU.' IF
YOU LOVED ME, YOU WOULD REJOICE
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BECAUSE I SAID, 'I
AM GOING TO THE FATHER,'
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FOR MY FATHER
IS GREATER THAN I."
00:51:17.16\00:51:19.70
>>SO WHO CAN
DENY, AT LEAST ON EARTH,
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THAT THERE WAS SOME SUBMISSION?
00:51:21.63\00:51:23.30
CHRIST SAYS, 'MY FATHER IS
GREATER THAN I.' NOW HERE'S THE
00:51:23.30\00:51:26.06
QUESTION - I'M PROBABLY GOING TO
GET LETTERS ON THIS BUT IT'S IN
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THE BIBLE, I'VE GOT
TO SHARE IT WITH YOU.
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PRIOR TO THE CREATION
OF OUR WORLD, WAS THERE ANY
00:51:31.70\00:51:35.80
SUBORDINATION OF CHRIST
TO THE FATHER? WAS THERE ANY
00:51:35.80\00:51:40.53
AUTHORITY THAT THE FATHER
SEEMED TO HAVE ABOVE CHRIST?
00:51:40.53\00:51:44.90
LET ME GIVE YOU SOME VERSES AND
YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK HERE.
00:51:44.90\00:51:50.43
'GOD MADE ALL THINGS THROUGH
CHRIST.' WHO RELEGATES TO JESUS
00:51:50.43\00:51:57.03
CREATIVE POWER?
WOULDN'T YOU THINK THAT IF THE
00:51:57.03\00:51:59.73
FATHER SAID TO CHRIST, 'YOU
CREATE' THAT MEANS THE FATHER
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HAD THE RIGHT AND
HE GAVE THIS RIGHT?
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HEBREWS 1:2, GOD "HAS IN THESE
LAST DAYS SPOKEN TO US BY HIS
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SON, WHOM HE HAS APPOINTED HEIR
OF ALL THINGS, THROUGH WHOM ALSO
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HE" - THE FATHER
- "MADE THE WORLDS."
00:52:14.26\00:52:16.16
THE FATHER MADE THE
WORLDS THROUGH CHRIST.
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AND, AGAIN, FOR THE
FATHER TO SEND THE SON.
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LET ME GIVE YOU SOMETHING ELSE
THAT - THIS IS FROM THE BOOK -
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THIS IS A QUOTE FROM THE 'SPIRIT
OF PROPHECY' AND, YOU KNOW, I
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DIDN'T WRITE
DOWN WHAT THAT MEANS.
00:52:31.86\00:52:34.16
SR PAGE 13 - I FORGET
WHAT THE SR STANDS FOR.
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SOMEONE WILL LOOK THAT UP
IN THE E.G. WHITE WRITINGS.
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SELECTED READINGS - IT MIGHT BE.
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"THE GREAT CREATOR ASSEMBLED"
- IT'S TALKING ABOUT WHEN CHRIST
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WAS SENT TO THE WORLD -
"THE GREAT CREATOR ASSEMBLED THE
00:52:47.90\00:52:50.86
HEAVENLY HOST THAT HE MIGHT, IN
THE PRESENCE OF ALL THE ANGELS,
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CONFER SPECIAL
HONOR UPON THE SON."
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WHO'S THE GREAT
CREATOR HERE? THE FATHER.
00:52:58.30\00:53:01.33
HE'S GOING TO CONFER SPECIAL
HONOR UPON THE SON, OKAY.
00:53:01.33\00:53:05.26
DO YOU SEE SOME
SUPERIOR AUTHORITY HERE BEING
00:53:05.26\00:53:09.33
REPRESENTED? OKAY.
00:53:09.33\00:53:11.73
"THE SON WAS SEATED ON THE
THRONE WITH THE FATHER AND THE
00:53:11.73\00:53:14.26
HEAVENLY THRONG OF HOLY ANGELS
WERE GATHERED AROUND THEM.
00:53:14.26\00:53:17.60
THE FATHER THEN MADE KNOWN THAT
IT WAS ORDAINED BY HIMSELF THAT
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CHRIST HIS SON SHOULD
BE EQUAL WITH HIMSELF."
00:53:21.96\00:53:25.46
WELL, WHO IS DECLARING THAT?
THE FATHER IS. "SO WHEREVER THE
00:53:25.46\00:53:30.76
PRESENCE OF HIS SON WAS,
IT WAS ALSO HIS OWN PRESENCE.
00:53:30.76\00:53:34.30
THE WORD OF THE SON WAS
TO BE OBEYED AS READILY AS
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THE WORD OF THE FATHER.
00:53:37.00\00:53:38.26
HIS SON HAD INVESTED" - HIS
SON - HE - NOTICE, THIS IS VERY
00:53:38.26\00:53:43.00
IMPORTANT - "HIS SON" - THE
FATHER'S SON - "HE" - THE FATHER
00:53:43.00\00:53:47.86
- "INVESTED WITH AUTHORITY
TO COMMAND THE HEAVENLY HOST."
00:53:47.86\00:53:52.20
SO WHEN ONE INVESTS AUTHORITY
TO ANOTHER, DOESN'T THAT PERSON
00:53:52.20\00:53:55.13
HAVE SOME SUPERIOR AUTHORITY
IN ORDER TO INVEST THEM WITH
00:53:55.13\00:53:57.66
AUTHORITY? IF I'M
SHERIFF AND I DEPUTIZE
00:53:57.66\00:54:00.86
YOU, I'VE GOT TO BE
SHERIFF FIRST, ISN'T THAT RIGHT?
00:54:00.86\00:54:05.53
YOU CAN'T COME TO ME
AND SAY, 'I'M A DEPUTY.
00:54:05.53\00:54:07.80
I'M GOING TO MAKE YOU SHERIFF.'
IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.
00:54:07.80\00:54:11.46
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?
00:54:11.46\00:54:13.06
THAT'S A CRUDE ILLUSTRATION BUT
IT WAS THE FIRST ONE THAT POPPED
00:54:13.06\00:54:15.16
INTO MY HEAD - "THE WORD OF THE
SON WAS TO BE OBEYED AS READILY
00:54:15.16\00:54:19.83
AS THE WORD OF THE FATHER."
HIS SON HE HAD INVESTED WITH
00:54:19.83\00:54:22.66
AUTHORITY TO
COMMAND THE HEAVENLY HOST."
00:54:22.66\00:54:24.36
NOTICE THIS: "ESPECIALLY WAS
HIS SON TO WORK IN UNION WITH
00:54:24.36\00:54:28.16
HIMSELF IN THE ANTICIPATED
CREATION OF THE EARTH AND EVERY
00:54:28.16\00:54:33.23
LIVING THING THAT
SHOULD EXIST IN THE EARTH."
00:54:33.23\00:54:35.93
ALRIGHT, IS THIS DIFFERENCE IN
AUTHORITY - DOES IT EXIST BEFORE
00:54:35.93\00:54:41.76
OUR WORLD WAS MADE?
EVEN - YES - IT SAYS HE'S
00:54:41.76\00:54:46.63
INVESTING HIM WITH AUTHORITY,
THEY'RE GOING TO COOPERATE IN
00:54:46.63\00:54:48.36
THE CREATION OF THE WORLD.
PRIOR TO - YOU GETTING THIS?
00:54:48.36\00:54:52.63
I'M NOT TRYING TO BUILD ANYTHING
THAT ISN'T THERE - PRIOR TO THE
00:54:52.63\00:54:55.73
CREATION OF OUR WORLD - FROM
EVERLASTING TO EVERLASTING - IN
00:54:55.73\00:54:59.83
THE GODHEAD THERE IS A LOVE AND
A RESPECT WHERE THERE IS - THERE
00:54:59.83\00:55:05.70
SEEMS TO BE A
SEQUENCE OF AUTHORITY.
00:55:05.70\00:55:07.73
THEY ARE CO-EQUAL, THEY HAVE -
ALL THREE ARE ALL-POWERFUL, THEY
00:55:07.73\00:55:14.80
ARE GOD, THEY'RE ALL KNOWING,
BUT THEY RESPECT A PRIMACY EVEN
00:55:14.80\00:55:21.53
IN THE GODHEAD. NOW DO YOU
SEE THAT? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
00:55:21.53\00:55:26.03
IT SEEMS TO BE THERE IN THE
BIBLE FOR ME, IF YOU BELIEVE THE
00:55:26.03\00:55:29.10
WORD OF GOD AND THE SPIRIT
OF PROPHECY. ALRIGHT, I'LL GET A
00:55:29.10\00:55:32.30
COUPLE MORE THOUGHTS IN
HERE BEFORE WE RUN OUT OF TIME.
00:55:32.30\00:55:34.60
CHRIST'S DIVING NATURE PART 1
- WELL, WE SORT OF TALKED ABOUT
00:55:34.60\00:55:39.93
THIS - LUKE 5, VERSE 20, IT
SAYS, "WHEN HE SAW THEIR FAITH,
00:55:39.93\00:55:46.23
HE SAID TO HIM, 'MAN, YOUR SINS
ARE FORGIVEN YOU.'" AND THEY GOT
00:55:46.23\00:55:49.80
ALL UPSET THAT HE WAS CLAIMING
THE POWER TO FORGIVE SIN.
00:55:49.80\00:55:52.36
NO ONE CAN FORGIVE SIN BUT
GOD ONLY. JOHN 8:58, "JESUS SAID
00:55:52.36\00:55:58.26
UNTO THEM, 'VERILY, VERILY,
I SAY UNTO YOU, BEFORE ABRAHAM
00:55:58.26\00:56:01.13
WAS, I AM.'" WE'VE
TALKED ABOUT THAT ALREADY.
00:56:01.13\00:56:04.13
OH, HERE'S THE ONE I WANTED TO
CLOSE WITH: JOHN 20, VERSE 28 -
00:56:04.13\00:56:08.33
AFTER JESUS REVEALED HIMSELF
IN THE UPPER ROOM, THOMAS BOWS
00:56:08.33\00:56:11.83
BEFORE THEM AND HE SAYS, 'MY
LORD AND MY GOD.' SO CHRIST HAD
00:56:11.83\00:56:17.26
THIS DIVINE NATURE AND JESUS
DIDN'T SAY, 'DON'T WORSHIP ME.'
00:56:17.26\00:56:20.96
THEY WORSHIPED HIM. HE
DIDN'T SAY, 'OH NO, NO,
00:56:20.96\00:56:23.43
DON'T CALL ME GOD
BECAUSE THAT'S A SIN.
00:56:23.43\00:56:24.66
THE BIBLE SAYS IN THE TEN
COMMANDMENTS, 'WORSHIP ONLY
00:56:24.66\00:56:27.60
GOD.' THE FACT THAT CHRIST
RECEIVED WORSHIP - WHAT WAS HE?
00:56:27.60\00:56:31.06
HE WAS GOD. SO
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