Participants: Doug Batchelor
Series Code: CSH
Program Code: CSH021413
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00:44 >>WELCOME TO SACRAMENTO CENTRAL SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH, 00:48 RIGHT HERE IN SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA. WE'RE SO GLAD THAT 00:51 YOU'RE TUNING IN FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AROUND THE WORLD - 00:54 LISTENING ON THE RADIO, WATCHING LIVE ON OUR WEBSITE AT 00:57 'SACCENTRAL.ORG' OR ON THE VARIOUS TELEVISION NETWORKS. 01:00 IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW YOU ARE JOINING US, 01:02 WE'RE JUST GLAD THAT YOU ARE. WE HOPE THAT YOU'VE HAD A 01:05 WONDERFUL WEEK. WE HAVE AND WE'RE READY TO SING 01:07 SOME SONGS WITH YOU AND OPEN UP GOD'S WORD AND STUDY TOGETHER. 01:11 SO IF YOU HAVE A HYMNAL AT HOME, PULL IT OUT AND JOIN US RIGHT 01:15 NOW FOR OUR FIRST FAVORITE REQUEST - 01:18 'ALL THINGS BRIGHT AND BEAUTIFUL' - #93. 01:22 THIS IS A REQUEST FROM GINA IN CALIFORNIA AND JOYCE IN KENYA 01:26 AND WE ARE GOING TO SING - LISTEN CAREFULLY - THE FIRST, 01:28 SECOND, FIRST, THIRD, FOURTH, FIFTH, AND FIRST VERSES. 01:32 FOLLOW ALONG AND IT WILL ALL MAKE PERFECT SENSE. #93. 01:37 (MUSIC) 03:54 >>THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SENDING IN YOUR FAVORITES. 03:57 WE HAVE HEARD FROM SO MANY OF YOU - OVER 20,000 REQUESTS FROM 04:03 ALL OVER THE WORLD - AND WE ARE DOING OUR BEST 04:06 TO GET THROUGH THOSE SO DON'T PANIC. 04:09 BUT IF YOU HAVE A FAVORITE THAT YOU WANT TO JOIN AND SING WITH 04:12 US ON AN UPCOMING PROGRAM, IT'S VERY SIMPLE: JUST GO TO OUR 04:15 WEBSITE AT 'SACCENTRAL.ORG', CLICK ON THE 'CONTACT US' LINK, 04:18 AND YOU CAN SEND IN YOUR FAVORITE SONG IF IT'S RIGHT HERE 04:21 IN OUR HYMNAL. AT THIS TIME, LET'S BOW OUR HEADS FOR PRAYER. 04:28 FATHER IN HEAVEN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BLESSING US AND 04:33 BRINGING US HERE TO STUDY YOUR WORD 04:35 AND TO SING PRAISES TO YOUR NAME. 04:37 WE JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO 04:43 COME HERE AGAIN TO OPEN UP YOUR WORD AND STUDY TOGETHER. 04:47 AND I JUST ASK THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH OUR SPEAKER. 04:50 BE WITH EACH PERSON HERE AND OUR EXTENDED SABBATH SCHOOL FAMILY 04:53 AROUND THE WORLD - THAT YOU WILL OPEN UP OUR HEARTS, OUR MINDS, 04:58 AND SPEAK TO US TODAY AND THAT ONE DAY VERY SOON WE WILL ALL BE 05:03 TOGETHER ON THE STREETS OF GOLD SINGING PRAISES TO YOUR NAME. 05:07 IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN. AT THIS TIME OUR LESSON STUDY IS 05:12 GOING TO BE BROUGHT TO US BY PASTOR DOUG BATCHELOR. 05:19 >>THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE MUSIC AND THE SONGS - IT'S 05:23 ALWAYS GOOD TO LEARN SOME NEW SONGS. 05:25 MORNING. HAPPY SABBATH. HOW IS EVERYBODY? 05:28 GLAD TO BE ABLE TO STUDY TOGETHER WITH YOU AND ALSO WANT 05:31 TO WELCOME THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING OR STUDYING WITH US VIA 05:36 INTERNET STREAMING OR SATELLITE OR SOME OTHER MECHANISM - 05:42 TELEVISION - WE'RE JUST GLAD THAT YOU'VE TUNED IN. 05:45 IN A MOMENT WE'LL GET TO OUR STUDY ON - IT'S OUR LAST STUDY 05:49 ON DISCIPLESHIP AND THAT REALLY IS A GOOD SEGUE FOR OUR FREE 05:52 OFFER TODAY AND THIS IS FOR ANYONE WHO CALLS THE NUMBER ON 05:54 THE SCREEN. IT'S CALLED 'THE HIGH COST OF 05:57 THE CROSS' BY JOE CREWS. IF YOU CALL 866-788-3966 AND ASK 06:04 FOR OFFER #156, WE'LL SEND IT TO YOU FREE. 06:07 PLEASE READ IT THEN SHARE IT WITH SOMEBODY AND HOPEFULLY 06:11 WE'LL MENTION THAT AGAIN AT THE END OF OUR STUDY. 06:15 'THE COST OF DISCIPLESHIP' - THIS IS OUR LAST STUDY ON THE 06:18 SUBJECT OF DISCIPLESHIP AND - COVERING A BROAD PLETHORA OF 06:23 VERSES, BUT WE'RE GOING TO READ A MEMORY VERSE THAT IS FROM 2 06:27 CORINTHIANS CHAPTER 1, VERSE 7, AND IF YOU HAVE YOUR BIBLES, 06:32 I ALWAYS APPRECIATE IF YOU CAN JOIN ME AND SAY THIS OUT LOUD 06:34 WITH ME. I'LL BE DOING IT FROM THE NEW KING JAMES VERSION. 06:38 2 CORINTHIANS 1:7 - ARE YOU READY? "AND OUR HOPE FOR YOU IS 06:45 STEADFAST, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT AS YOU ARE PARTAKERS OF THE 06:49 SUFFERINGS, SO ALSO YOU WILL PARTAKE OF THE CONSOLATION." 06:56 BEING A CHRISTIAN HAS A COST, BUT IT PAYS MORE THAN IT COSTS. 07:05 BUT, NEVERTHELESS, IT COSTS SOMETHING. 07:09 THERE IS A NEW - IT'S NOT THAT NEW, BUT THERE IS 07:13 A SPREADING VERSION OF CHRISTIANITY. 07:17 IT'S CALLED BY A NUMBER OF NAMES - PROSPERITY PREACHING OR THE 07:21 PROSPERITY GOSPEL OR THE WORD OF FAITH GOSPEL. HAVE YOU MAYBE 07:26 HEARD OF THIS BEFORE? IT'S THE NOTION THAT IF YOU'RE 07:29 SICK OR POOR YOU JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FAITH. 07:32 AND IF YOU HAD ENOUGH FAITH YOU COULD DECLARE - AND BECAUSE YOU 07:37 ARE MADE IN GOD'S IMAGE AND GOD'S WORD - WHEN HE SAYS 07:39 SOMETHING IT HAPPENS, IF YOU THEN DECLARE BY FAITH WHAT YOU 07:42 WANT TO BE, YOU CAN SPEAK PROSPERITY INTO YOUR LIFE. 07:46 YOU CAN SPEAK HEALING INTO YOUR LIFE. 07:47 IT SORT OF MAKES YOU A LITTLE MINI GOD AND - 07:50 AS THOUGH THE MESSAGE OF JESUS IS HOW YOU COULD BE WEALTHIER 07:55 AND HEALTHIER AND WISE. NOW, I DO BELIEVE GOD BLESSES 07:58 HIS PEOPLE - I DO BELIEVE THERE ARE PROMISES IN THE BIBLE THAT 08:02 TALK ABOUT THAT. THEY'RE NOT ALL MATERIAL 08:04 BLESSINGS. AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A 08:07 HEALTH MESSAGE AND GOD WANTS US TO BE HEALTHY. 08:09 THE PROBLEM IS, MOST CHRISTIANS - THE PROBLEM WITH THEIR HEALTH 08:13 IS NOT BECAUSE THEY DON'T SPEAK FAITH INTO THEIR LIVES, IT'S 08:16 BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY'RE EATING AND THEIR LIVING HABITS. 08:20 AND THE BIBLE HAS A LOT TO SAY - THERE ARE A NUMBER OF HEALTH 08:23 TRUTHS IN THE BIBLE THAT, IF YOU PRACTICE THEM AND COOPERATE WITH 08:28 GOD'S NATURAL MEANS OF HEALING, YOU'LL BE STRONGER AND LIVE 08:31 LONGER AND HAVE MORE ABUNDANT LIFE. 08:36 BUT THIS COUNTERFEIT GOSPEL REALLY NEGLECTS AN IMPORTANT 08:41 TRUTH THAT JESUS SAID THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE TROUBLES IN 08:45 LIFE. IN A MINUTE WE'LL GET TO THIS 08:47 VERSE, BUT I WANT TO GET YOU READY. 08:48 WHO HAS ACTS CHAPTER 14:22 - WE GAVE THAT VERSE TO - OVER HERE? 08:52 ALRIGHT, YOU GOT A MICROPHONE THERE? 08:55 YOU WILL IN A MOMENT. YOU KNOW THE LADY WITH THE 08:57 MICROPHONES. OKAY - THAT'S HIS WIFE. 09:01 2 CORINTHIANS 11:23 - I JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU DID PAUL 09:07 HAVE SOME CHALLENGES IN HIS LIFE? 09:10 NOW HERE'S AN APOSTLE FULLY SURRENDERED TO THE LORD. 09:14 PAUL SAYS - 2 CORINTHIANS 11:23, "ARE THEY MINISTERS OF CHRIST? 09:19 - I SPEAK AS A FOOL - I AM MORE: IN LABORS MORE ABUNDANT, IN 09:23 STRIPES" - THAT MEANS BEING WHIPPED - IT LEFT STRIPES ON 09:25 YOUR BACK - "IN STRIPES ABOVE MEASURE, 09:27 IN PRISONS MORE FREQUENTLY, IN DEATHS OFTEN. 09:31 FROM THE JEWS FIVE TIMES I RECEIVED FORTY STRIPES MINUS 09:33 ONE" - THEY COULD WHIP YOU UP TO 39 TIMES - "THREE TIMES I WAS 09:37 BEATEN WITH RODS; ONCE I WAS STONED; THREE TIMES I WAS 09:40 SHIPWRECKED; A NIGHT AND A DAY I HAVE BEEN IN THE DEEP; IN 09:44 JOURNEYS OFTEN, IN PERILS OF WATERS, IN PERILS OF ROBBERS, IN 09:48 PERILS OF MY OWN COUNTRYMEN, IN PERILS OF THE GENTILES, IN 09:52 PERILS IN THE CITY, IN PERILS IN THE WILDERNESS, IN PERILS IN THE 09:55 SEA, IN PERILS AMONG FALSE BRETHREN; IN WEARINESS AND TOIL, 09:59 IN SLEEPLESSNESS OFTEN, IN HUNGER AND THIRST, IN FASTINGS 10:03 OFTEN, IN COLD AND NAKEDNESS" - LET'S ALL FOLLOW PAUL! 10:09 DOES THAT SOUND LIKE THE LIFE YOU WANT TO LIVE? 10:14 SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE EXPERIENCE OF THE MOST PRODUCTIVE NEW 10:19 TESTAMENT WRITER, WAS IT A LIFE OF HEALTH AND WEALTH AND EASE? 10:27 OR WAS IT TRIALS AND TRIBULATION? 10:31 ALRIGHT, LISTEN TO WHAT JESUS SAYS TO PETER: JOHN 21:18, "MOST 10:35 ASSUREDLY I SAY TO YOU, WHEN YOU WERE YOUNGER, YOU GIRDED 10:38 YOURSELF AND WALKED WHERE YOU WISHED; BUT WHEN YOU ARE OLD, 10:41 YOU WILL STRETCH OUT YOUR HANDS, AND ANOTHER WILL GIRD 10:44 YOU AND CARRY YOU WHERE YOU DO NOT WISH." 10:46 THIS HE SPOKE, SIGNIFYING BY WHAT DEATH HE WOULD GLORIFY GOD. 10:51 AND WHEN HE HAD SPOKEN THIS, HE SAID TO HIM, 'FOLLOW ME.'" WHAT 10:53 DEATH WAS JESUS TELLING PETER HE WOULD EXPERIENCE? 11:00 YOU'LL STRETCH FORTH YOUR HANDS...CRUCIFIXION. 11:03 PETER WAS CRUCIFIED. TRADITION TELLS US HE WAS 11:05 CRUCIFIED UPSIDE DOWN. LET ME GIVE YOU ANOTHER ONE. 11:08 HEBREWS 11:35 - SPEAKING OF THE FAITHFUL THROUGH THE AGES, PAUL 11:12 - ASSUMING HE WROTE HEBREWS - SAYS, "OTHERS WERE TORTURED, NOT 11:16 ACCEPTING DELIVERANCE, THAT THEY MIGHT OBTAIN A BETTER 11:19 RESURRECTION. STILL OTHERS HAD TRIAL OF 11:21 MOCKINGS AND SCOURGINGS, YES, AND OF CHAINS AND IMPRISONMENT. 11:26 THEY WERE STONED, THEY WERE SAWN IN TWO, WERE TEMPTED, WERE SLAIN 11:29 WITH THE SWORD. THEY WANDERED ABOUT IN 11:32 SHEEPSKINS AND GOATSKINS, BEING DESTITUTE, AFFLICTED, TORMENTED 11:36 - OF WHOM THE WORLD WAS NOT WORTHY. 11:38 THEY WANDERED IN DESERTS AND MOUNTAINS, IN DENS AND CAVES OF 11:41 THE EARTH." I CAN RELATE TO THAT LAST PART. 11:45 BUT HERE IT'S TELLING US ABOUT THE CHRISTIAN EXPERIENCE. 11:49 WAS IT ONE OF DRIVING A GOLD MERCEDES AND WEARING A ROLEX AND 11:54 BE, YOU KNOW, DECKED IN PEARLS AND FOX COATS AND PRIVATE JETS 12:01 AND - WAS THIS THE KIND OF JESUS THAT WAS BEING PROMOTED IN THE 12:08 FIRST CENTURY? BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING 12:11 ABOUT. I CAN START NAMING THEIR NAMES. 12:14 THERE'S ALL KINDS OF MINISTRIES OUT THERE AND THEIR IDEA OF 12:16 FAITH - IT MEANS YOU'RE GOING TO BE RICH AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE 12:19 COMFORTABLE AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE HEALTHY AND YOU'RE GOING TO 12:22 BE - A LOT OF IT IS MATERIALISM AND PROSPERITY AND POWER. 12:26 IS THAT WHAT JESUS SAID? 'COME, FOLLOW ME - AND DRIVE 12:30 YOUR BENTLEY.' WAS THAT HIS MESSAGE? 12:37 BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT APPEALS TO SOME PEOPLE. 12:38 ONE PERSON WHO WAS INTERESTED IN MONEY - HE WAS A SCRIBE - HE 12:42 CAME TO JESUS AND SAID, 'LORD, I'M GOING TO FOLLOW YOU WHEREVER 12:44 YOU GO.' AND JESUS - ACTUALLY, IF YOU READ THE BOOK 'DESIRE OF 12:47 AGES' HE TELLS US THAT WAS JUDAS WHO WAS LOOKING FOR EARTHLY - HE 12:51 THOUGHT JESUS MIGHT BE THE MESSIAH. 12:53 HE WANTED TO GET UP CLOSE TO THE NEXT KING BECAUSE OF THE 12:56 BENEFITS. AND JESUS SAID, 'REALLY, YOU'RE GOING TO FOLLOW 13:00 ME WHEREVER I GO?' HE SAID, 'FOXES HAVE THEIR HOLES 13:02 AND THE BIRDS OF THE AIR HAVE THEIR NESTS, BUT THE SON OF MAN 13:05 HAS NOWHERE TO EVEN LAY HIS HEAD. 13:07 YOU WANT TO FOLLOW ME?' SO A LOT OF WHAT'S BEING TOLD IN 13:12 THE CHRISTIAN WORLD ABOUT THE PRICE OR THE COST OF 13:15 DISCIPLESHIP IS NOT REALLY WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES. 13:22 ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD, READ FOR US ACTS 14:22. 13:28 >>"CONFIRMING THE SOULS OF THE DISCIPLES, AND EXHORTING THEM TO 13:32 CONTINUE IN THE FAITH, AND THAT WE MUST THROUGH MUCH TRIBULATION 13:36 ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD." 13:39 >>ALRIGHT, SO WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRIBULATION, YOU 13:42 REALIZE THAT, IN THE CHRISTIAN WORLD, THERE ARE THREE VIEWS ON 13:46 THE TRIBULATION IN RELATIONSHIP WITH THE RAPTURE. 13:49 NOW, WHEN I USE THE WORD 'RAPTURE' I MEAN THE TIME WE'RE 13:50 CAUGHT UP TO MEET THE LORD IN THE AIR - I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT 13:52 'THE SECRET RAPTURE' - I'M TALKING ABOUT THE SECOND COMING. 13:55 BUT THERE ARE THREE VIEWS: ONE VIEW IS THAT THE SECOND COMING 13:58 HAPPENS BEFORE THE TRIBULATION - POST - ONE VIEW IS THAT THE 14:03 SECOND COMING HAPPENS IN THE MIDDLE - THEY CALL IT 'MID-TRIB' 14:07 - AND THE THIRD IS FOLLOWING - OR 'PRE-TRIB' IS THE ONE BEFORE 14:11 AND POST-TRIB IS THE ONE FOLLOWING. 14:12 SO YOU'VE GOT THESE THREE VIEWS. NOW MUCH OF THE WORLD BELIEVES 14:16 WHAT WE CALL 'THE LEFT BEHIND' SCENARIO - MUCH OF THE CHRISTIAN 14:19 WORLD. YOU KNOW WHAT THAT 'LEFT BEHIND' SCENARIO IS? 14:22 IT'S THAT ANY DAY NOW THE LORD IS GOING TO COME AND RAPTURE 14:24 AWAY THE CHURCH BECAUSE HE DOESN'T - I MEAN, MOST 14:28 CHRISTIANS AGREE THERE IS A TRIBULATION COMING. 14:31 IF YOU READ IN REVELATION 15 AND 16, WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE 14:33 SEVEN LAST PLAGUES, IT TELLS US THERE'S A TRIBULATION COMING - 14:37 YOU CAN'T DENY THAT. JESUS SAID, 'HE THAT ENDURES TO 14:41 THE END' - IN DANIEL CHAPTER 12 THAT - WHEN MICHAEL STANDS UP 14:45 THERE'S A TIME OF TROUBLE SUCH AS THERE NEVER HAS BEEN EVER 14:47 SINCE TIME UNTIL THE END AND AT THAT TIME GOD'S PEOPLE WILL BE 14:52 DELIVERED. GREAT TIME OF TROUBLE. 14:55 SO THE BIBLE TELLS US ABOUT MEN'S HEARTS FAILING BECAUSE OF 15:00 FEAR, AND THE SEA AND THE WAVES ROARING, AND GREAT PERPLEXITY. 15:04 SO THERE'S THIS TIME OF TROUBLE. SO DOES THE LORD LOVE US TOO 15:08 MUCH TO ALLOW US TO GO THROUGH TRIBULATION? 15:11 THE LEFT BEHIND SCENARIO SAYS HE TAKES US OUT OF THE WORLD BEFORE 15:14 THE TRIBULATION AND THEN THE SEVEN LAST PLAGUES HAPPEN. 15:19 WERE GOD'S PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WHEN THE TEN PLAGUES CAME ON 15:22 EGYPT? WERE THEY IN EGYPT WHEN THE PLAGUES FELL? 15:27 DID HE SAVE THEM FROM THE PLAGUES OR THROUGH THE PLAGUES? 15:32 DID GOD SAVE NOAH FROM THE FLOOD OR THROUGH THE FLOOD? DID HE 15:36 SAVE SHADRACH, MESHACH AND ABEDNEGO FROM THE FIERY FURNACE 15:39 OR THROUGH IT? DANIEL FROM THE LIONS' DEN OR THROUGH IT? 15:43 JOSEPH FROM HIS TRIALS OR DID HE SAVE JOSEPH THROUGH HIS TRIALS? 15:47 AND THEN WE JUST READ WHERE PAUL SAID IT IS THROUGH MUCH 15:50 TRIBULATION WE WILL ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD. 15:53 THERE ARE TRIALS. I MEAN, WHO WANTS TRIALS? 15:57 I DON'T WANT TRIALS. I MEAN, DO YOU PRAY FOR TRIALS? 16:02 ONLY TIME I PRAY FOR TRIALS IS WHEN I PRAY FOR THEM FOR YOU. 16:06 NO, I DON'T PRAY FOR ME TO GO THROUGH TRIALS. 16:11 YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I DON'T WANT TRIALS BUT 16:13 TYPICALLY GOD SAYS IT IS THROUGH TRIBULATION - THE LORD IS COMING 16:18 FOR A CHURCH WITHOUT SPOT OR WRINKLE. DO YOU IRON WITH A 16:22 COLD IRON OR A HOT IRON? COLD ONE DOESN'T WORK, DOES IT? 16:26 AND IT'S HOT WATER THAT GETS THOSE SPOTS OUT. 16:31 AND SO THERE ARE GOING TO BE FIERY TRIALS THAT WILL 16:33 ULTIMATELY PURIFY THE CHURCH, BUT TEACHING THE CHURCH 'GOD 16:37 JUST LOVES YOU SO MUCH, HE WANTS YOU TO BE WEALTHY, HE WANTS YOU 16:40 TO BE HEALTHY, AND HE IS GOING TO POP YOU OUT OF THE WORLD 16:43 BEFORE THE TRIALS COME.' THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT - 16:45 THAT'S THE DEVIL'S MARKETING CAMPAIGN. 16:47 THAT'S WHY PETER SAYS, 'DO NOT BE AMAZED AT THE FIERY TRIALS 16:52 THAT WILL TRY YOUR FAITH AS IF SOME STRANGE THING IS HAPPENED 16:55 UNTO YOU.' YOU KNOW WHY HE SAYS THAT? 16:56 BECAUSE A LOT OF THE CHURCH IS GOING TO BE AMAZED. 16:58 THERE ARE SINCERE CHRISTIANS CAUGHT UP IN THESE FALSE 17:00 TEACHINGS. AND WHEN THE TRIALS BEGIN TO 17:03 COME UPON GOD'S PEOPLE THEY'RE GOING TO GO, 'WHAT? 17:05 I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO MISS ALL THIS AND JUST BE BLESSED ALL 17:08 THE TIME.' WELL, GOD DOES BLESS HIS PEOPLE AND IF YOU FOLLOW THE 17:13 LORD AND OBEY HIS COMMANDMENTS HE SAYS, 'YOU'LL BE BLESSED 17:15 GOING OUT AND YOU'LL BE BLESSED COMING IN.' BUT HE DOESN'T SAY 17:17 YOU'LL NEVER GO THROUGH TRIALS. WAS JOB A GOOD MAN? 17:21 DID GOD BLESS JOB? BUT DID JOB GO THROUGH A GREAT TRIBULATION? 17:26 BINGO. THAT'S NOT A BIBLICAL WORD BUT 17:28 THAT'S SO YOU GET THE IDEA. THAT SAYS IT. 17:30 THAT'S EXHIBIT A OF WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. 17:33 THERE IS A COST OF DISCIPLESHIP. ALRIGHT, LET'S LOOK AT LUKE 17:38 CHAPTER 12, VERSE 49. JESUS SAID, "I CAME TO SEND FIRE 17:45 ON THE EARTH, AND HOW I WISH IT WERE ALREADY KINDLED! 17:48 BUT I HAVE A BAPTISM TO BE BAPTIZED WITH, AND HOW 17:51 DISTRESSED I AM TILL IT IS ACCOMPLISHED! 17:54 DO YOU SUPPOSE THAT I CAME TO GIVE PEACE ON EARTH? 17:56 I TELL YOU, NOT AT ALL, BUT RATHER DIVISION." 18:00 DID ANY OF YOU SEE THAT VIDEO - AT THE TIME OF THIS BROADCAST 18:04 IT'LL BE OLD NEWS, BUT LAST WEEK, YOU KNOW, THE POPE GAVE A 18:07 MESSAGE. HOW MANY OF YOU SAW THAT? 18:10 DID ANY OF YOU SEE MY COMMENTARY ON THAT? OKAY. 18:13 DID YOU NOTICE THAT IN THE PREAMBLE TO THE POPE'S MESSAGE 18:16 THIS GUY, BISHOP ANTHONY PALMER SAID, 'DIVISION IS DIABOLICAL. 18:21 DIVERSITY IS WONDERFUL.' WELL, DIVISION IS NOT ALL DIABOLICAL 18:25 OR JESUS IS DIABOLICAL BECAUSE JESUS SAID 'I CAME TO BRING 18:28 DIVISION.' THE TRUTH CAUSES DIVISION. 18:30 THE WORD OF GOD IS SHARPER THAN ANY TWO-EDGED SWORD THAT DIVIDES 18:34 AND SO SOMETIMES JESUS SAID, 'I CAME' - I'M JUST READING THESE - 18:39 RED-LETTER EDITION - IT'S HIS WORDS. 18:42 "I TELL YOU, NOT AT ALL, BUT RATHER DIVISION. 18:45 FOR FROM NOW ON FIVE IN ONE HOUSE WILL BE DIVIDED: THREE 18:47 AGAINST TWO, AND TWO AGAINST THREE. 18:52 FATHER WILL BE DIVIDED AGAINST SON AND SON AGAINST FATHER, 18:54 MOTHER AGAINST DAUGHTER AND DAUGHTER AGAINST MOTHER, 18:56 MOTHER-IN-LAW AGAINST HER DAUGHTER-IN-LAW AND 19:00 DAUGHTER-IN-LAW AGAINST HER MOTHER-IN-LAW." - 19:02 BOY, A LOT OF MOTHERS-IN-LAW THERE. SO THERE - 19:06 HE SAYS, EVEN A PERSON'S FAMILY - THERE'LL BE DIVISION THERE. 19:09 LUKE 14:25, "NOW GREAT MULTITUDES WENT WITH HIM. 19:13 AND HE TURNED AND SAID TO THEM, 'IF ANYONE COMES TO ME AND DOES 19:17 NOT HATE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER, WIFE AND CHILDREN," - WHAT? 19:21 I THOUGHT THE BIBLE SAID YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO LOVE YOUR WIFE, LOVE 19:22 YOUR CHILDREN. WHY IS JESUS SAYING THAT? 19:25 I'M READING NEW KING JAMES VERSION, JUST IN CASE YOU'RE 19:27 WONDERING. SOME VERSIONS DO THIS DIFFERENTLY. 19:31 IF HE "DOES NOT HATE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER, WIFE AND CHILDREN, 19:33 BROTHERS AND SISTERS, YES, AND HIS OWN LIFE ALSO, HE CANNOT BE 19:37 MY DISCIPLE." NOW WHAT DOES THE LORD MEAN BY 'HATE' THERE? 19:40 IS JESUS - I THOUGHT HE COMMANDED US TO LOVE; 19:42 HERE IT SOUNDS LIKE HE'S COMMANDING US TO HATE. 19:44 THAT'S A DIFFICULT VERSE. WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT 19:47 IS A COMPARISON. HE'S SAYING, 'IN COMPARISON TO YOUR LOVE FOR 19:51 ME, THOSE THINGS MUST BE SECOND. YOU MUST HATE THEM.' 19:55 IN COMPARISON TO WHERE GOD BELONGS IN YOUR LIFE. 19:59 AN EXAMPLE OF THAT WOULD BE, IF YOU LOOK IN THE OLD TESTAMENT IN 20:03 DEUTERONOMY 21 - AND THIS IS IN YOUR LESSON - DEUTERONOMY 21:15, 20:08 "IF A MAN HAVE TWO WIVES," - NOW I'M READING KING JAMES VERSION 20:11 BECAUSE OTHER VERSIONS CHANGE THIS - "IF A MAN HAVE TWO WIVES" 20:15 - GOD'S NOT ENDORSING THIS, BUT THEY DID IT - "ONE BELOVED, AND 20:19 ANOTHER HATED," - CAN YOU THINK OF SOME PEOPLE IN 20:20 THE BIBLE THAT HAD THAT SITUATION? 20:23 YOU REMEMBER, YEAH, YOU'VE GOT HAGAR AND SARAH; YOU'VE GOT - I 20:28 DON'T KNOW THAT HE HATED HAGAR, BUT YOU'VE GOT ELKANAH HAD 20:32 HANNAH AND PENINNAH - THE MOTHER OF SAMUEL WAS HANNAH; AND YOU'VE 20:36 GOT JACOB THAT HAD TWO SISTERS AND HE REALLY LOVED RACHEL AND 20:41 HE GOT STUCK WITH LEAH. BY THE WAY, JESUS CAME THROUGH 20:44 LEAH SO GOD KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON. 20:47 SO YOU'VE GOT SOME EXAMPLES OF THIS. 20:49 SO THEY DID IT - GOD DIDN'T ENDORSE IT BUT HE MADE A LAW AND 20:52 HE SAID, 'IF YOU HAVE THAT - "AND THEY HAVE BORNE HIM 20:54 CHLIDREN, BOTH THE BELOVED AND THE HATED; AND IF THE FIRSTBORN 20:57 SON BE HERS THAT WAS HATED:" - IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER YOU 21:02 LOVE ONE AND YOU DON'T LOVE THE OTHER, THE FIRSTBORN IS SUPPOSED 21:05 TO BE THE FIRSTBORN. AND THE WORD 'HATED' THERE MEANS 21:08 'DISLIKED OR LOVED LESS' - THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANS. 21:12 SO IT CONFUSES US - IT DOESN'T MEAN HATE IN THE SENSE THAT YOU 21:15 LOATHE SOMEBODY, HERE THE WORD 'HATE' MEANS 'LOVED LESS' AND SO 21:21 HE'S SIMPLY SAYING, 'WE CAN'T LOVE ANYBODY MORE. 21:27 THAT'S THE COST OF DISCIPLESHIP. HAVE YOU EVER MET FOLKS THAT 21:30 SAID, 'YOU KNOW, ONE OF THESE DAYS I'M GOING TO SURRENDER ALL 21:32 AND FOLLOW JESUS BUT I'M WAITING FOR MY SPOUSE TO COME AROUND. 21:38 I'M WAITING UNTIL MY HUSBAND, YOU KNOW, MY HUSBAND - I'D GO TO 21:43 CHURCH WITH YOU BUT HE REALLY LIKES ME TO GO OUT SHOPPING WITH 21:45 HIM ON THE WEEKENDS AND THAT'S HIS DAY AND I, YOU KNOW, I LOVE 21:51 MY HUSBAND AND I KNOW IT'S THE TRUTH AND I SHOULD BE IN CHURCH 21:53 ON THE SABBATH BUT" - AND I REMEMBER ONE SISTER TOLD ME 21:57 THAT. I SAID, 'THE BEST THING YOU CAN DO FOR YOU HUSBAND IS 22:01 PUTTING GOD FIRST.' AND SHE DIDN'T - AT FIRST. 22:06 AND THEN HER HUSBAND HAD A VERY SERIOUS ACCIDENT AT WORK THAT 22:14 NEARLY KILLED HIM AND I WENT TO VISIT HIM IN THE HOSPITAL AND 22:18 SHE CRIED TO ME - SHE WAITED UNTIL WE GOT OUT OF THE ROOM. 22:20 SHE SAID, 'I'VE BEEN PUTTING MY HUSBAND FIRST AND I REALIZED - 22:22 GOD SAID, 'I CAN TAKE YOUR HUSBAND FROM YOU.' SHE SAID, 'I 22:26 NEED TO PUT GOD FIRST.' AND SHE STARTED TO COME TO CHURCH AND 22:29 EVENTUALLY HER HUSBAND BEGAN TO VISIT WITH HER. 22:31 SO THAT'S WHY THE LORD IS TELLING US YOU'VE GOT TO HATE 22:34 EVEN THE CLOSEST THING YOU CAN THINK OF AS A FAMILY MEMBER - 22:38 THAT HAS TO COME SECONDARILY TO GOD. GOD NEEDS TO BE FIRST. 22:41 THAT'S THE COST OF DISCIPLESHIP. ALRIGHT, SOMEONE LOOK UP FOR ME 22:47 LUKE 14:27. WHO HAS THAT VERSE? OVER HERE? 22:51 YOU'VE GOT THE MICROPHONE ALREADY. ALRIGHT, LET'S GET THE 22:54 - IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO GET A CAMERA FOCUSED ON YOU. 22:56 IN THE MEANTIME, 'BEARING ONE'S CROSS' IS OUR HEADING RIGHT NOW. 23:00 MARK 10:21, "THEN JESUS, LOOKING AT HIM, LOVED HIM, AND SAID TO 23:06 HIM, 'ONE THING YOU LACK: GO YOUR WAY, SELL WHATEVER YOU HAVE 23:10 AND GIVE TO THE POOR, AND YOU WILL HAVE TREASURE IN HEAVEN; 23:14 AND COME, TAKE UP THE CROSS, AND FOLLOW ME.'" NOW THIS IS WHAT 23:18 JESUS SAID TO THAT RICH YOUNG RULER. 23:19 YOU'LL ALSO FIND THIS IN - ALL THREE GOSPELS TALK ABOUT THIS 23:25 RICH YOUNG RULER - HE'S REALLY BEING INVITED TO BE AN APOSTLE. 23:29 NOW HE'S TELLING HIM THE COST OF DISCIPLESHIP: SELL EVERYTHING 23:33 YOU HAVE, GIVE IT TO THE POOR - IS HE ASKING ALL OF US TO DO 23:36 THAT? NOT NECESSARILY. HE IS ASKING ALL OF US TO DO 23:41 WHATEVER IT TAKES TO PUT ALL ON THE ALTAR. 23:45 WHEN YOU FOLLOW JESUS YOU GIVE EVERYTHING TO HIM. 23:47 NOW, FOR THE APOSTLES, THEY REALLY NEEDED TO LIQUIDATE AND 23:51 FOLLOW JESUS. GO AHEAD, READ FOR ME LUKE 14:27. 23:57 >>"AND WHOEVER DOES NOT BEAR HIS CROSS AND COME AFTER ME CANNOT 24:00 BE MY DISCIPLE." 24:03 >>NOW DOES THAT TALK - DOES THAT TELL US THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE 24:06 SOME STRUGGLE? WHERE DID PEOPLE TAKE CROSSES BACK THEN? 24:11 IF THE ROMANS GAVE YOU A CROSS, WHERE'D YOU TAKE IT? 24:15 TO YOUR EXECUTION. THEY USED TO MAKE YOU CARRY YOUR 24:16 OWN CROSS TO YOUR EXECUTION. YOU WEREN'T GOING TO GET A 24:19 SOLDIER TO CARRY IT FOR YOU. AND SO, THEY WERE VERY FAMILIAR 24:23 WITH THE TERM 'TAKING YOUR CROSS'. 24:25 IT MEANT THAT SELF-DENIAL - DEATH TO SELF. 24:30 NOW THAT'S NOT VERY POPULAR, IS IT? 24:32 YOU DON'T HEAR A LOT OF PASTORS AND PREACHERS TALKING ABOUT - TO 24:37 THE SECULAR, ATHEISTIC WORLD - CHOOSE TO BE A CHRISTIAN. 24:40 DIE TO SELF. BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE ONLY 24:42 WAY YOU CAN REALLY LIVE, BIBLICALLY. 24:48 SOMEONE LOOK UP LUKE 12:15 - LUKE 12:15 - WHO - WE GOT THAT 24:54 OVER HERE? ALRIGHT. 24:55 WE'LL GET A MICROPHONE FOR YOU IN JUST A MOMENT. 24:58 AND I'M GOING TO READ MATTHEW 12:16 - I'M SORRY, MATTHEW 25:02 16:26, "FOR WHAT PROFIT IS IT TO A MAN IF HE GAINS THE WHOLE 25:07 WORLD, AND LOSES HIS OWN SOUL?" SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COST 25:10 OF DISCIPLESHIP. WHAT DOES IT COST TO BE A DISCIPLE? 25:16 HOW MUCH DOES IT COST? EVERYTHING. 25:21 THE BIBLE TELLS US IT'S LIKE A MAN WHO'S WALKING THROUGH HIS 25:24 FIELD AND HE - MAYBE HE'S PLOWING IN HIS FIELD. 25:29 HIS PLOW STICKS ON A BOX AND THE BOX - HE DIGS UP AND IT'S GOT 25:34 TREASURE IN IT. THE PROBLEM IS HE'S ONLY LEASED THE FIELD, 25:38 HE DOESN'T REALLY OWN IT. AND SO, IN ORDER TO GET THE 25:41 TREASURE - HE'S AN HONEST MAN, HE REALIZES HE NEEDS TO BUY THE 25:44 FIELD AND THEN HE'LL OWN EVERYTHING IN THE FIELD. 25:46 SO HE GOES TO HIS WIFE AND HE SAYS, 'WE'RE GOING TO SELL 25:48 EVERYTHING.' 'EVERYTHING?' 'EVERYTHING.' 'WELL, WE'RE NOT 25:51 GOING TO SELL GRANDMA'S CHINA?' 'WE'RE GOING TO SELL 25:53 EVERYTHING.' WHY ARE WE GOING TO SELL 25:55 EVERYTHING?' 'BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BUY THIS 25:57 FIELD.' 'THIS OLD FIELD? IT'S GOT WEEDS AND ROCKS IN IT.' 25:59 HE SAYS, 'TRUST ME. IT'S GOT TREASURE IN IT. 26:03 TREASURE WORTH MORE THAN EVERYTHING WE'VE GOT. 26:05 WE'RE GOING TO SELL EVERYTHING.' 'WE'RE NOT GOING TO SELL MY 26:09 FAMILY HEIRLOOMS?' 'EVERYTHING.' 'MY JEWELS?' 26:12 'EVERYTHING.' CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT DISCUSSION? 26:16 AND FINALLY HE SELLS EVERYTHING. THEY TAKE - THEY HAVE NOTHING 26:20 LEFT - THEY BRING IT TO THE REALTOR, THEY BUY THE LAND, THEY 26:27 GET IT REGISTERED, THEN HE TAKES HIS WIFE OUT INTO THE FIELD. 26:29 HE SAYS, 'LOOK WHAT I FOUND.' AND HE DIGS UP THE BOX THAT HE 26:33 HAD MARKED AND THERE IT'S FULL OF GOLD. 26:35 HOW MANY OF YOU HEARD ABOUT THIS REALLY HAPPENING HERE IN 26:39 NORTHERN CALIFORNIA? IT HIT THE NEWS NOT TOO LONG AGO. 26:43 TALK ABOUT FINDING A POT AT THE END OF THE RAINBOW, A COUPLE 26:47 SOMEWHERE UP IN PLACER COUNTY, ABOVE AUBURN,THEY HAD SOME RURAL 26:52 LAND THEY'VE OWNED FOR YEARS. THEY WERE WALKING AROUND ON A 26:55 TRAIL THEY'VE WALKED ON FOR YEARS WITH THEIR DOG AND THEY 26:57 SAW A CAN STICKING UP - A RUSTY CAN - OUT OF THE GROUND AND THEY 27:00 DECIDED TO EXPLORE IT AND IT HAD GOLD IN IT. 27:04 THEN THEY FOUND ANOTHER CAN AND THEY STARTED DIGGING AND THEY 27:06 FOUND EIGHT CANS CONTAINING OVER 1,400 GOLD COINS THAT DATED 27:11 BETWEEN 1847 AND 1893 - MANY OF THEM IN MINT CONDITION. 27:16 SOME OF THEM ARE IN SUCH GOOD CONDITION - THEY'RE SO RARE 27:18 THEY'RE WORTH A MILLION DOLLARS A PIECE - AND THEY FOUND 1,400 27:23 OF THEM. THEY FIGURE IT'S WORTH ABOUT TEN MILLION DOLLARS. 27:27 THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW IT GOT THERE. 27:31 SOME ARE SPECULATING - YOU EVER HEAR OF A STAGE COACH 27:33 ROBBER NAMED BLACK BART? HE WAS CAUGHT - 27:37 QUITE AN INTERESTING CHARACTER - 27:38 ACTUALLY, HE USED TO HIDE OUT IN COVELO TOO - BLACK BART. 27:42 I USED TO TELL THE KIDS ALL THE TIME, I'D TEASE THEM WITH A 27:44 METAL DETECTOR OUT IN THE FRONT YARD, 'YOU KEEP LOOKING. 27:46 BLACK BART'S TREASURE IS OUT THERE.' THIS GUY USED TO ROB 27:49 WELLS FARGO AND THEY CALLED HIM 'THE GENTLEMAN BANDIT' BECAUSE 27:53 HE WOULD LEAVE POETRY AND HE NEVER CURSED AND HE WAS VERY 27:55 POLITE AND THEY FINALLY CAUGHT UP WITH HIM. 27:58 THEY PUT HIM IN SAN QUENTIN PRISON. 28:01 HE STAYED THERE FOUR YEARS AND GOT OUT ON GOOD BEHAVIOR AND 28:03 THEN WELLS FARGO TRACKED HIM FOR AWHILE BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THAT 28:06 HE WOULD START ROBBING STAGECOACHES AGAIN AND 28:08 EVENTUALLY HE SLIPPED AWAY AND THEY NEVER HEARD FROM HIM AGAIN. 28:11 THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM IN HISTORY. 28:13 VERY INTERESTING CHARACTER. WELL, THEY'RE WONDERING NOW IF 28:15 THIS WAS SOME OF BLACK BART'S TREASURE THAT NEVER GOT 28:17 RECOVERED. SOME OF IT, HE TOLD THEM, HE HID 28:20 IN A HOLLOW LOG IN THE WOODS AND HE FORGOT WHERE IT WAS. 28:25 BUT IT JUST MAKES YOU WONDER - INTERESTING. 28:28 SO, YOU FIND THIS TREASURE IN A FIELD - THAT WAS A LONG WAY OF 28:30 TELLING A PARABLE. IT DOES HAPPEN, DOESN'T IT? 28:35 WOULD YOU SELL EVERYTHING IF YOU COULD BUY THAT LAND THAT HAD TEN 28:38 MILLION DOLLARS ON IT? WOULD YOU SELL EVERYTHING YOU HAD? 28:40 UNLESS YOU'VE GOT OVER TEN MILLION DOLLARS. 28:43 IF YOU DO WE'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU AFTERWARDS. 28:48 WOULD IT BE WORTH IT? HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO FOLLOW JESUS? 28:52 GO AHEAD, READ FOR US - WHO HAS LUKE 12:15? 28:57 >>LUKE 12:15, "...'TAKE HEED AND BEWARE OF COVETOUSNESS, FOR 29:02 ONE'S LIFE DOES NOT CONSIST IN THE ABUNDANCE OF THE THINGS HE 29:06 POSSESSES.'" >>BY THE WAY - THANK YOU - 29:09 THAT WAS MATTHEW 13:44 29:11 - "THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS LIKE A TREASURE HIDDEN IN A 29:13 FIELD, WHICH A MAN FOUND AND HID; AND FOR JOY OVER IT HE GOES 29:16 AND SELLS ALL THAT HE HAS AND BUYS THAT FIELD." 29:19 SO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN, HOW MUCH SHOULD IT BE WORTH? 29:23 EVERYTHING. IT SHOULD BE EVERYTHING. 29:25 WHEN JESUS ASKED THE APOSTLES TO FOLLOW, DO YOU NOTICE HE WAITED 29:28 UNTIL HE FILLED THEIR NETS AND THEN HE SAID, 29:32 'FORSAKE EVERYTHING AND FOLLOW ME'? 29:34 WHEN HE ASKED MATTHEW TO FOLLOW HE WAS SITTING AT HIS CASH 29:37 REGISTER BRIMMING WITH COIN AND HE SAID, 'WALK AWAY FROM IT AND 29:42 FOLLOW ME.' SO JESUS LETS US KNOW THAT 'I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU 29:46 SOMETHING THAT IS WORTH ETERNAL TREASURE - ETERNAL LIFE - BUT 29:50 YOU'VE GOT TO LET GO OF EVERYTHING ELSE. 29:52 YOU CAN'T KEEP BOTH.' SO WHEN THEY BROUGHT THEIR BOATS TO LAND 29:56 THEY FORSOOK ALL AND FOLLOWED HIM. 29:59 PETER SAYS - SOMEONE LOOK UP FOR ME MATTHEW 16:21. 30:03 WHO HAS THAT? RIGHT HERE? WE'LL GET TO YOU IN JUST A 30:05 SECOND. GET YOU THE MICROPHONE. 30:08 PETER SAID - AND THIS IS LUKE 18:28, 30:13 "LO, WE HAVE LEFT ALL, AND FOLLOWED THEE." 30:17 THEY WERE WILLING TO FORSAKE EVERYTHING TO FOLLOW JESUS. 30:22 CHRISTIANITY COSTS SOMETHING, BUT IT PAYS MORE THAN IT COSTS, 30:25 DOESN'T IT. SO, ALRIGHT, ARE WE READY FOR THAT? 30:30 OKAY, GO AHEAD MIKE. WHY DON'T YOU READ THAT NEXT VERSE? 30:33 >>ALRIGHT, MATTHEW 16:21, "FROM THAT TIME JESUS BEGAN TO SHOW 30:37 HIS DISCIPLES THAT HE MUST GO TO JERUSALEM, AND SUFFER MANY 30:42 THINGS FROM THE ELDERS AND CHIEF PRIESTS AND SCRIBES, AND BE 30:45 KILLED, AND BE RAISED THE THIRD DAY." 30:50 >>RIGHT. YOU KNOW, SO JESUS WAS LETTING 30:52 THEM KNOW. WHAT WERE THEIR PLANS FOR JESUS? 30:56 THEIR THEOLOGY SAID MESSIAH IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, USE HIS 31:00 MIRACULOUS POWER AND OVERTHROW THE ROMANS AND HE'LL HAVE THE 31:03 STRENGTH OF SAMPSON AND THE WISDOM OF SOLOMON AND THE 31:07 COURAGE OF DAVID AND HE'S GOING TO BE OUR NEW KING AND THEY HAD 31:10 BUILT ALL THESE THINGS INTO THEIR PICTURE OF WHAT THE 31:13 MESSIAH WOULD BE LIKE. AND JESUS, THEY THOUGHT, HE CAN 31:16 EVEN MULTIPLY BREAD AND FEED THE ARMY. 31:19 AND THAT'S WHY JAMES AND JOHN CAME TO HIM. 31:21 ONE VERSION SAYS THEIR MOTHER CAME WITH THEM AND THEY SAID, 31:24 'LORD, CAN WE TALK TO YOU FOR A MOMENT?' 31:26 AND HE SAID, 'SURE, HOW CAN I HELP YOU?' 31:27 'WHEN YOU COME INTO YOUR KINGDOM, CAN I SIT' - JAMES, 31:31 PROBABLY, BEING THE OLDER BROTHER - 'CAN I SIT ON YOUR 31:33 RIGHT HAND AND JOHN ON YOUR LEFT HAND?' HOW DID THEY VIEW THAT? 31:39 WERE THEY THINKING OF BEING CRUCIFIED ON HIS RIGHT AND LEFT 31:41 OR SITTING ON THRONES ON HIS RIGHT AND LEFT? 31:44 THEY WERE SO - WHEN HE SAID, 'I'M GOING TO JERUSALEM AND I'M 31:46 GOING TO BE CRUCIFIED' - EVEN PETER SAID, 'LORD, FAR BE 31:49 IT FOR YOU. NOT YOU! NO, NOT THAT. 31:52 THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS TO CRIMINALS. 31:53 YOU'RE THE KING.' AND JESUS SAID TO PETER, 'GET BEHIND ME, 31:56 SATAN.' THEY DID NOT UNDERSTAND EVEN 32:00 BACK THEN, THE REAL COST OF DISCIPLESHIP. 32:04 NOW, IF YOU GO INTO IT WITHOUT FALSE EXPECTATIONS. 32:08 IF YOU GO INTO CHRISTIANITY AND YOU SURRENDER EVERYTHING AND YOU 32:12 ARE READY TO BE CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST AND YOU SAY, 'LORD, ALL 32:15 THAT I AM AND ALL THAT I HAVE IS YOURS.' IF THAT'S YOUR ATTITUDE 32:18 GOING IN, THEN IT'S UPHILL FROM THERE ISN'T IT? 32:21 IT'LL ONLY GET BETTER. I MEAN, IF YOU DIE, CAN THINGS 32:25 GET WORSE? CAN THEY? NO, SO ONCE YOU ARE CRUCIFIED 32:31 WITH CHRIST THEN EVERYTHING ELSE IS A BLESSING AFTER THAT. 32:34 CAN ANYONE HURT YOUR FEELINGS IF YOU'RE CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST? 32:38 BUT IF YOU'RE LIVING FOR YOURSELF AND YOUR KINGDOM IS IN 32:40 THE WORLD - IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT AN EARTHLY KINGDOM YOU'RE 32:43 GOING TO BE DISAPPOINTED. SO JESUS TRIED TO SAY, 'THE 32:46 WORLD'S NOT GOING TO LOVE YOU. YOU'LL NEVER BE POPULAR. 32:49 JOHN 15, VERSE 18 - JOHN 15, VERSE 18, "IF THE WORLD HATES 32:59 YOU, YOU KNOW THAT IT HATED ME BEFORE IT HATED YOU. 33:03 IF YOU WERE OF THE WORLD, THE WORLD WOULD LOVE ITS OWN. 33:05 YET BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT OF THE WORLD, BUT I CHOSE YOU OUT OF 33:08 THE WORLD, THEREFORE THE WORLD HATES YOU. 33:10 REMEMBER THE WORD THAT I SAID TO YOU, 'A SERVANT IS NOT GREATER 33:13 THAN HIS MASTER.' IF THEY PERSECUTED ME, 33:15 THEY WILL PERSECUTE YOU. IF THEY KEPT MY WORD, 33:19 THEY WILL KEEP YOURS ALSO." I HEARD A STORY AND JOHN WESLEY, 33:25 YOU KNOW, HE WAS ONE OF THESE OUTDOOR PREACHERS - FOUNDER OF 33:28 THE METHODIST CHURCH - AND IT WAS CONSIDERED VERY 33:31 UNPOPULAR AND UNCONVENTIONAL TO BE PREACHING OUTDOORS. 33:35 AND HE HAD BEEN CONDEMNED BY THE OFFICIAL CHURCH OF ENGLAND. 33:39 AND OFTEN, WHEN HE WOULD GO PREACH, THERE WERE MOBS THAT 33:43 THEY THOUGHT OF HIM AS A REBEL AND PREACHING OUTSIDE AND HIS 33:49 SERMONS ABOUT LIVING GODLY LIVES THEY USED TO RIDICULE. 33:52 HE'D GET DONE PREACHING IN THE TOWN AND THEY'D SHUT DOWN ALL 33:55 THE SALOONS AND THE BARS AND SO SOME PEOPLE REALLY HATED HIM. 33:59 AND, FREQUENTLY THEY MADE ATTEMPTS ON HIS LIFE - THEY'D 34:01 BREAK DOWN THE DOOR OF HIS HOUSE OR STAB HIM OR THROW BRICKS AT 34:05 HIM OR JUST ALL KINDS OF THINGS. YOU CAN READ - HIS OWN 34:08 AUTOBIOGRAPHY WILL TELL YOU ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WERE DONE. 34:11 BUT ONE TIME, HE WAS PREACHING IN ENGLAND AND HE REALIZED THAT 34:16 SEVERAL WEEKS HAD GONE BY WHERE HE HADN'T EXPERIENCED ALMOST ANY 34:19 RESISTANCE OR UNKIND WORDS OR ANY PERSECUTION AND HE'S ON HIS 34:22 HORSE AND HE THOUGHT, 'LORD, MAYBE I'M NOT PREACHING THE TRUE 34:26 GOSPEL ANYMORE.' AND HE STOPPED WHERE HE WAS AND HE GOT DOWN OFF 34:29 THE HORSE AND HE BEGAN TO PRAY AND HE SAID, 'LORD, I'VE JUST 34:31 NOTICED THINGS ARE GOING REALLY WELL AND YOU SAY, 'WOE UNTO YOU 34:34 WHEN ALL MEN SPEAK WELL OF YOU FOR SO THEY DID OF THE FALSE 34:36 PROPHETS.' AND LORD, MAYBE I'M NOT BEING FAITHFUL.' AND RIGHT 34:39 WHILE HE WAS PRAYING, SOMEBODY IN A HOUSE NOT FAR FROM THE ROAD 34:42 SAW HIM AND SAID, 'BE YE THAT TERRIBLE PREACHER WESLEY?' 34:46 AND HE HURLED A BRICK AT HIM. 34:48 AND WESLEY SAID, 'THANK YOU, LORD.' HE THOUGHT, 'I GUESS I'M 34:53 STILL ON THE RIGHT COURSE.' AND HE GOT BACK ON HIS HORSE. 34:56 SO, YOU KNOW, JESUS SAID, 'IF THEY HATED ME, THEY'RE GOING TO 35:01 HATE YOU.' SO YOU CAN'T PREACH THE GOSPEL WITHOUT OFFENSE AND 35:09 IN OUR WORLD TODAY THERE'S A MOVEMENT WHERE WE'RE JUST 35:15 WANTING TO PULL OUR PUNCHES FOR WHAT THE REAL GOSPEL IS AND JUST 35:18 GET ALONG WITH EVERYBODY AND JUST TALK ABOUT LOVE AND UNITY. 35:21 THAT SOUND FAMILIAR? CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG? 35:25 LET'S NOT HIGHLIGHT THE DIFFERENCES. 35:27 LET'S NOT BE DIVISIVE. DON'T PREACH THE REAL MESSAGE 35:30 ABOUT TURNING FROM YOUR SINS AND TAKING UP YOUR CROSS. 35:34 FOLLOW JESUS AND EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE OKEY DOKIE. 35:37 AND THAT'S A LIE. THAT'S JUST WHAT THE DEVIL WANTS. 35:41 IT'S NOT WHAT JESUS TAUGHT. 35:44 JOHN 16 - LISTEN TO THIS - 1 AND 2, "THESE THINGS I HAVE SPOKEN 35:48 TO YOU, THAT YOU SHOULD NOT BE MADE TO STUMBLE. 35:51 THEY WILL PUT YOU OUT OF THE SYNAGOGUES; YES, THE TIME IS 35:54 COMING THAT WHOEVER KILLS YOU WILL THINK THAT HE OFFERS GOD 35:58 SERVICE." THAT'S AN EXACT PREDICTION OF 36:00 WHAT HAPPENED WITH PAUL. DIDN'T PAUL THINK HE WAS SERVING 36:02 GOD WHEN HE KILLED CHRISTIANS AND PUT THEM IN PRISON? 36:06 HE WAS SINCERE, BUT HE WAS WRONG. 36:08 JESUS SAID, 'YOU'RE GOING TO BE PERSECUTED.' LUKE 21:12, "BUT 36:16 BEFORE ALL THESE THINGS, THEY WILL LAY THEIR HANDS ON YOU AND 36:19 PERSECUTE YOU, DELIVERING YOU UP TO THE SYNAGOGUES AND PRISONS. 36:23 YOU WILL BE BROUGHT BEFORE KINGS AND RULERS FOR MY NAME'S SAKE. 36:27 BUT IT WILL TURN OUT FOR YOU AS AN OCCASION FOR TESTIMONY." 36:29 SO WHY DO WE GO THROUGH TRIALS AS DISCIPLES? 36:33 IT SAYS, 'IT WILL TURN OUT AS AN OCCASION FOR TESTIMONY.' YOU 36:38 KNOW WHEN CHRISTIANS MAKE THE BEST WITNESSES? THROUGH TRIAL. 36:42 WHEN DID PAUL GET TO PREACH TO KINGS? 36:45 WHILE HE WAS IN JAIL. WHEN DID JOHN THE BAPTIST PREACH 36:48 TO HEROD? WHEN HE WAS IN JAIL. 36:50 I MEAN, YOU HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO BE A WITNESS, 36:53 SOMETIMES, WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH TRIAL. 36:56 "IT WILL TURN OUT FOR YOU AS AN OCCASION FOR TESTIMONY. 36:58 THEREFORE SETTLE IT IN YOUR HEARTS NOT TO MEDITATE 37:01 BEFOREHAND ON WHAT YOU WILL ANSWER; FOR I WILL GIVE YOU A 37:04 MOUTH AND WISDOM WHICH ALL YOUR ADVERSARIES WILL NOT BE ABLE TO 37:07 CONTRADICT OR RESIST." KIND OF LIKE LUTHER BEFORE THE 37:09 DIET OF WORMS, WHERE GOD GAVE HIM SUCH GREAT ELOQUENCE AS HE 37:14 WAS BEING TRIED FOR HIS FAITH. THE LORD WILL DO THAT FOR YOU. 37:17 AND THAT TIME'S GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN WHEN REAL DISCIPLES, 37:20 IF WE'RE FAITHFUL, GOD IS GOING TO ALLOW THAT TO PROVE TO BE 37:25 AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE OUR FAITH. 37:29 'THEY'LL PUT SOME OF YOU TO DEATH' JESUS SAID. 37:31 I'M STILL IN LUKE 21 - I'M READING VERSE 16 - VERSE 17, 37:35 "AND YOU WILL BE HATED BY ALL FOR MY NAME'S SAKE. 37:39 BUT NOT A HAIR OF YOUR HEAD WILL BE LOST." 37:41 WELL, I'VE HAD TO TALK TO THE LORD ABOUT THAT VERSE. 37:44 "BY YOUR PATIENCE POSSESS YOUR SOULS." 37:48 SO, TO BE A CHRISTIAN REQUIRES PUTTING EVERYTHING ON THE ALTAR. 37:54 ROMANS 12, VERSES 1 AND 2, "I BESEECH YOU THEREFORE, 37:58 BRETHREN, BY THE MERCIES OF GOD, THAT YOU PRESENT YOUR BODIES A 38:01 LIVING SACRIFICE, HOLY, ACCEPTABLE TO GOD, 38:04 WHICH IS YOUR REASONABLE SERVICE. 38:06 AND DO NOT BE CONFORMED TO THIS WORLD, BUT BE TRANSFORMED BY THE 38:11 RENEWING OF YOUR MIND, THAT YOU MAY PROVE WHAT IS THAT GOOD AND 38:15 ACCEPTABLE AND PERFECT WILL OF GOD." SOMEONE LOOK UP FOR ME 38:19 PHILIPPIANS 2:3. WHO DID WE GIVE THAT TO? OVER HERE? 38:24 YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT RICKY? 38:26 OKAY, I'LL LET THEM LOCATE YOU AND ZERO IN. 38:30 SO THERE'S A TRIAL IN BEING A CHRISTIAN. 38:33 NOW, I DON'T WANT TO DISCOURAGE YOU. 38:35 WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE COST, I THINK SOME OF YOU WENT, 'OH MAN, 38:37 DEATH, TRIALS, PERSECUTION AND PRISON? 38:41 DOUG, YOU'RE SCARING US.' DON'T FORGET WHAT I SAID: CHRISTIANITY 38:45 COSTS BUT IT PAYS MORE THAN IT COSTS. 38:51 JESUS SAID TO THE RICH YOUNG RULER, 38:52 'GO SELL ALL THAT YOU HAVE. GIVE IT TO THE POOR. 38:55 FOLLOW ME.' AND YOU KNOW WHAT HE SAID, 'YOU WILL HAVE TREASURE IN 38:58 HEAVEN.' IS THAT TRUE? NOT ONLY THERE, BUT YOU END UP 39:04 WITH MORE HERE. PETER SAID, 'LORD, LOOK, WE'VE 39:07 FORSAKEN EVERYTHING TO FOLLOW YOU. 39:08 WHAT WILL WE HAVE?' JESUS SAID, 'NO MAN OR WOMAN HAS 39:13 GIVEN UP HOUSES OR LANDS OR POSITION' - I'M PARAPHRASING NOW 39:19 - 'OR HUSBAND OR WIFE, OR CHILDREN IN THIS LIFE BUT HE 39:26 WILL HAVE A HUNDRED TIMES MORE HOUSES AND LANDS AND FAMILY WITH 39:31 PERSECUTIONS AND ETERNAL LIFE IN THE WORLD TO COME.' BUT HE SAYS, 39:34 'EVEN IN THIS LIFE YOU END UP WITH A HUNDRED TIMES MORE.' 39:37 NOW, HOW DOES THAT WORK? 39:39 DOES THAT MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO OWN A HUNDRED HOUSES? 39:40 NO, BUT WHEN YOU BECOME A CHILD OF GOD, INSTANTLY YOUR FAMILY 39:43 GROWS AND THEIR HOUSE BECOMES YOUR HOUSE. 39:46 DOESN'T THE BIBLE SAY, IN THE DAYS OF THE EARLY CHURCH WHEN HE 39:49 POURED OUT THE SPIRIT, 'NO MAN SAID THAT OUGHT THAT HE HAD WAS 39:52 HIS OWN BUT ALL MEN HAD EVERYTHING IN COMMON.' I KNOW 39:55 THAT SOUNDS LIKE COMMUNISM BUT IT MEANS THAT WE REALLY LOVE 39:58 EACH OTHER AND WE'RE WILLING TO SHARE. 40:00 AND HE SAYS YOU'LL HAVE MORE FAMILY. HOW DOES THAT WORK? 40:04 WE CALL EACH OTHER BROTHER AND SISTER AND EVERYWHERE I GO I'VE 40:07 GOT FAMILY NOW. I HAD A VERY SMALL FAMILY GROWING UP. 40:11 I JUST HAD, YOU KNOW, MY BROTHER AND MY FATHER AND MOTHER AND 40:13 THEY DIVORCED AND IT FELT PRETTY SMALL LIVING WITH A SINGLE MOM 40:16 IN NEW YORK BECAUSE MY BROTHER WAS SOMEWHERE ELSE. 40:18 AND SO I KIND OF GREW UP - SMALL FAMILY - DISTANT. 40:24 I BECAME A CHRISTIAN - MAN - FIRST TIME I CAME TO CHURCH 40:27 EVERYONE STARTS HUGGING ME AND SO YEAH. 40:31 YOU GET INVITED HOME EVERY WEEK AND YOU FINALLY GET TO WHERE YOU 40:35 GET TO ASK, 'SO WHAT ARE YOU GUYS HAVING FOR DINNER? 40:37 MAYBE I'LL GET MYSELF INVITED OVER HERE.' AND HERE AT CENTRAL 40:40 CHURCH IT'S GREAT BECAUSE I'D WALK OUT IN THE COURTYARD AND 40:42 I'D BE ABLE TO SAY, 'I DON'T KNOW, TODAY WHAT DO I WANT? 40:45 DO I WANT TO GO TO THE FIJIAN POTLUCK OR DO I WANT TO GO TO 40:48 THE FILIPINO POTLUCK? OR SHOULD I GO TO THE HODGEPODGE 40:51 POTLUCK OR THE ROMANIAN POTLUCK? OR WHO'S POTLUCK - 40:54 THAT'S PRETTY NICE. YOU'VE GOT FAMILY ALL OVER THE 40:56 WORLD WITHOUT EVEN LEAVING THE CHURCH. 40:59 SO YOU REALLY DO GET A HUNDRED TIMES MORE BUT THERE'S TRIALS. 41:03 ALRIGHT, WHO IS NEXT WITH A VERSE? RICKY? 41:06 >>PHILIPPIANS 2, VERSE 3, "LET NOTHING BE DONE THROUGH SELFISH 41:10 AMBITION OR CONCEIT, BUT IN LOWLINESS OF MIND LET EACH 41:15 ESTEEM OTHERS BETTER THAN HIMSELF." 41:18 >>THAT'S THE KEY TO THE COST OF DISCIPLESHIP IS: 'HE THAT SEEKS 41:23 TO SAVE HIS LIFE WILL LOSE IT, BUT HE THAT LOSES HIS LIFE FOR 41:28 MY SAKE AND THE GOSPEL WILL FIND IT.' 41:30 THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU EVER GET IT IS BY FIRST GIVING IT 41:34 AWAY. NOW LET ME ILLUSTRATE THIS HERE. 41:39 DOES EVERYONE KNOW WHAT ONE OF THESE IS? 41:42 POWER STRIP - AND THEY'RE VERY HANDY. 41:45 IF YOU'VE GOT A COMPUTER OR SOME KIND OF ELECTRONICS OR MEDIA, 41:48 YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT ALL THOSE POWER CORDS THAT HANG DOWN - 41:51 YOU'VE GOT YOUR BATTERY BACK UP, YOU'VE GOT YOUR COMPUTER ITSELF, 41:54 YOU MIGHT HAVE POWER SPEAKERS, YOU'VE GOT YOUR PRINTER AND ALL 41:57 THAT STUFF - YOU KNOW, THOSE CORDS DANGLE BEHIND YOUR DESK. 41:59 YOU DON'T HAVE THAT MANY OUTLETS. 42:01 YOU'VE GOT TWO OUTLETS ON THE WALL SO YOU'VE GOT TO MULTIPLY 42:04 THEM SO YOU STICK THIS IN THE WALL THEN YOU STICK ALL YOUR 42:06 APPARATUS IN HERE AND THEN YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THE 42:08 SWITCH IS ON. I WON'T PLUG THIS IN BUT IT DOES COME ON. WELL, I 42:12 WAS ROOTING AROUND BEHIND MY DESK ONE TIME - AS I WAS 42:15 RECONFIGURING THE WIRES IN MY COMPUTER AND I PLUGGED IT ALL IN 42:20 AND I COULDN'T GET MY COMPUTER TO WORK. AND I LOOKED AND I SAW 42:23 THAT IT WAS ALL PLUGGED IN AND I KEPT CHECKING THE POWER SWITCH 42:26 AND I COULDN'T GET IT THE POWER SWITCH TO COME ON. 42:28 I KNEW IT WAS A GOOD POWER STRIP BECAUSE I JUST BOUGHT IT AND I'D 42:31 TESTED IT SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THE LIGHT CAME ON. 42:34 AND YOU KNOW WHAT I ENDED UP DOING? 42:37 I'D PLUGGED ONE OF THE PLUGS - THERE WERE ALL THESE PLUGS 42:39 HANGING - BACK INTO ITSELF. SO ALL THE WIRES ARE KIND OF 42:42 DOWN TO THERE AND I DIDN'T REALIZE I'D PLUGGED THE POWER 42:44 STRIP BACK INTO ITSELF. NOW, HOW DOES THAT WORK? 42:48 SEE, THE IDEA - I KNOW, IT'S REALLY EMBARRASSING. 42:54 ANY OF YOU EVER DONE THAT BEFORE? NO? 42:56 I SAW ONE HAND WENT - NO ONE ELSE IS GOING TO RAISE THEIR 42:58 HAND, I'M NOT RAISING MY HAND.' ALRIGHT, CONFESS. 43:05 IN YOUR LIFE, HAVE YOU EVER GONE TO UNSCREW A LIGHT BULB WHILE IT 43:09 WAS STILL HOT? OKAY, I JUST WONDERED. 43:13 SO WE ALL DO DUMB THINGS, RIGHT? I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE. 43:17 BUT THE IDEA IS THE POWER IS SUPPOSED TO COME IN HERE, 43:20 FLOW THROUGH AND GO OUT HERE. AND IT WORKS JUST FINE IF YOU DO 43:24 IT THAT WAY. YOUR LIVES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE 43:26 LIKE THAT. BUT MOST OF US, THIS IS HOW WE 43:32 GO THROUGH LIFE. WE JUST - WE THINK WE'RE GOING 43:35 TO LIVE UNTO OURSELVES AND WE'RE ALL PLUGGED IN TO OURSELVES AND 43:40 YOU WILL HAVE A POWERLESS LIFE. YOU END UP SELF-DESTRUCTING. 43:43 IF YOU WORSHIP GOD - IF YOU GET YOUR LIFE AND YOUR POWER FROM 43:47 GOD, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO PASS IT ON TO OTHERS AND YOU BECOME A 43:51 CHANNEL OF BLESSING AND YOU LIGHT UP. BUT IF YOU LIVE UNTO 43:55 YOURSELF AND YOU JUST YOU THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOD AND 43:59 ALL OF IT IS GOING TO BE YOU, YOU DON'T GET ANYWHERE. 44:04 AND MOST PEOPLE GO THROUGH THEIR LIVES - THEY SAY, 'IT'S ALL 44:06 ABOUT ME.' SOMEONE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION A FEW YEARS AGO - WE 44:09 USED TO HAVE MAGAZINES CALLED 'LIFE'. 44:12 NOW THERE'S A MAGAZINE CALLED 'SELF' AND 'LIFE' MAGAZINE IS 44:15 OUT OF BUSINESS. AND THEY'VE GOT THE ME MAGAZINE 44:20 AND IT'S ALL 'YOU DESERVE IT. HAVE YOUR OWN WAY' AND 'YOU'RE 44:24 WORTH IT.' AND EVERYTHING'S ABOUT, KIND OF, SELF WORSHIP. 44:29 BUT TO BE A CHRISTIAN IT'S ABOUT GIVING IT AWAY. 44:32 WHAT'S THE GREAT COMMANDMENT? LOVE THE LORD FIRST - IT'S NOT 44:36 YOU - LOVE THE LORD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, MIND, SOUL, AND 44:39 STRENGTH. LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF. 44:42 AND YOU'VE HEARD THAT ACRONYM BEFORE, 'JOY' - SECRET TO 44:45 HAPPINESS IS 'JESUS, OTHERS, YOU.' AND THAT'S GOT TO BE THE 44:50 SEQUENCE, BUT THE WORLD HAS INVERTED THAT SO IT'S ALL FIRST 44:53 YOU AND PEOPLE ARE NEVER SATISFIED JUST TAKING CARE OF 44:56 THEMSELVES SO THEY NEVER GET TO JESUS AND OTHERS, IT'S ALL ABOUT 45:00 ME AND MYSELF AND I. OKAY, CARRYING ON HERE. 45:06 LUKE 18, VERSE 28 - OH, ACTUALLY I GAVE YOU THIS VERSE ALREADY. 45:16 THAT'S WHERE HE SAYS - THERE'S ALSO A VERSION I QUOTED MORE 45:18 FROM MATTHEW - LUKE 18:28, "PETER SAID, 'SEE, WE HAVE LEFT 45:20 ALL AND FOLLOWED YOU.' SO HE SAID, 'ASSUREDLY I SAY TO YOU, 45:24 THERE IS NO ONE WHO HAS LEFT HOUSE OR PARENTS OR BROTHERS OR 45:26 WIFE OR CHILDREN, FOR THE SAKE OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD, WHO SHALL 45:29 NOT RECEIVE MANY TIMES MORE IN THIS PRESENT TIME,'" - IN THIS 45:34 LIFE - "'AND IN THE AGE TO COME 45:36 ETERNAL LIFE." SO YOU END UP GETTING MUCH MORE. 45:38 IT DOES COST SOMETHING BUT YOU DO GET BLESSED. 45:41 READ DEUTERONOMY 28 - IT TALKS ABOUT THE BLESSINGS AND THE 45:44 CURSINGS AND GOD SAYS IF YOU OBEY GOD'S COMMANDMENTS AND YOU 45:47 SEEK FIRST HIS KINGDOM, YOU WILL BE BLESSED WHEN YOU GO OUT. 45:50 YOU WILL BE BLESSED WHEN YOU COME IN. 45:51 YOU WILL BE BLESSED IN YOUR BARN. 45:53 YOU WILL BE BLESSED IN YOUR FIELD. 45:54 YOU WILL BE BLESSED IN YOUR FAMILY. 45:56 YOU WILL BE BLESSED EVERYWHERE YOU CAN BE BLESSED. 45:58 HE SAYS YOU'LL BE BLESSED, BUT HE DOESN'T SAY THERE'LL NEVER BE 46:02 YOUR TIME OF TROUBLE LIKE WHAT JOB WENT THROUGH OR LIKE WHAT 46:08 JOSEPH WENT THROUGH. JOHN 14:1-3, JESUS SAID, "LET 46:15 NOT YOUR HEART BE TROUBLED" - YES, IN THIS WORLD YOU'LL HAVE 46:18 TRIBULATION, BUT "LET NOT YOUR HEART BE TROUBLED; YOU BELIEVE 46:21 IN GOD, BELIEVE ALSO IN ME. IN MY FATHER'S HOUSE ARE MANY 46:25 MANSIONS" - OR DWELLING PLACES - "IF IT WERE NOT SO, 46:27 I WOULD HAVE TOLD YOU. I GO TO PREPARE A PLACE FOR YOU. 46:31 AND IF I GO AND PREPARE A PLACE FOR YOU, I WILL COME AGAIN AND 46:34 RECEIVE YOU UNTO MYSELF;" - IT COSTS SOMETHING, BUT IT PAYS. 46:39 ETERNAL LIFE, A BODY THAT HAS NO PAIN OR SICKNESS, IN A WORLD 46:44 WHERE THERE'S NO FEAR, NO LOCKS ON THE DOORS, THERE'S NO COLD 46:48 WEATHER, THERE'S NO HOT WEATHER. EVERY DAY'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY. 46:53 EVERYBODY IS NICE UP THERE. THEY DON'T JUST PRETEND 46:55 TO BE NICE. EVERYBODY'S REALLY NICE. 46:58 CAN YOU IMAGINE LIVING IN A WORLD LIKE THAT WHERE, YOU KNOW, 47:02 YOUR GREATEST MENTAL CHALLENGE IS YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ENDEAVOR 47:07 GREAT THINGS EVEN IN HEAVEN. IF YOU READ IN HEBREWS 11 IT 47:14 SAYS, 'A BETTER RESURRECTION' IN YOUR LESSON. 47:17 HEBREWS 11, VERSE 35, "WOMEN RECEIVED THEIR DEAD RAISED TO 47:22 LIFE AGAIN. OTHERS WERE TORTURED, NOT 47:24 ACCEPTING DELIVERANCE, THAT THEY MIGHT OBTAIN A BETTER 47:27 RESURRECTION. STILL OTHERS HAD TRIALS OF MOCKINGS AND 47:30 SCOURGINGS, YES, AND OF CHAINS AND IMPRISONMENT. 47:33 THEY WERE STONED, THEY WERE SAWN IN TWO" - 47:35 AND I READ THIS TO YOU EARLIER. AND SO THEY SUFFERED BECAUSE 47:39 THEY SAID, 'WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO A BETTER 47:41 RESURRECTION.' AND SO, ARE THERE DAYS COMING FOR THE CHURCH WHEN 47:46 FAITHFUL CHRISTIANS ARE GOING TO BE CHALLENGED? 47:50 NOW LET'S FACE IT, HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW SOMEBODY THAT THEY 47:56 MOVED TO THE COUNTRY YEARS AGO BECAUSE THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT 48:00 THE TIME OF TROUBLE AND THEY GOT OLD AND DIED UP IN THE HILLS AND 48:06 THE ONLY TIME OF TROUBLE WAS THAT THEY WERE TOO FAR AWAY 48:08 FROM THE HOSPITAL WHEN THEY GOT OLD? 48:12 YOU CAN GO BACK A HUNDRED YEARS AND PEOPLE HAVE - THEY'VE 48:15 THOUGHT OR THEY READ ABOUT THESE TIMES OF TROUBLE - THE GREAT 48:18 TRIBULATION AND, YOU KNOW, FRANKLY I'M A LITTLE WORRIED 48:21 BECAUSE SOME CHRISTIANS GOD WOULD HAVE US - 48:24 WHERE'S MOST PEOPLE? CITY OR COUNTRY? THE CITY. 48:28 GOD - WE NEED TO HAVE A WORK IN THE CITY. 48:31 THERE'S A LOT TO BE SAID ABOUT WORK IN THE CITIES. 48:33 IT'S NICE IF YOU CAN LIVE ON THE OUTSKIRTS AND HAVE A LITTLE MORE 48:35 OF A RURAL DWELLING, BUT WE CAN'T ALL GO FLEE INTO 48:39 THE WOODS WAITING FOR THE TIME OF TROUBLE. 48:42 BUT EVENTUALLY IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. IT WILL HAPPEN. 48:45 AND YOU ARE GOING TO BE A LOT BETTER OFF. 48:47 GOD'S TOLD US WHEN TO HEAD FOR THE HILLS. 48:49 HE SAID WHEN THE GOVERNMENTS BEGIN TO MAKE LAWS THAT START 48:52 TELLING US HOW TO WORSHIP, THAT WILL BE THE SIGNAL THAT - 48:56 EVIDENTLY IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IN 24 HOURS. 49:00 I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL BE THREE AND A HALF YEARS. 49:03 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIME PERIOD IS, BUT I THINK THAT 49:06 GOD'S GOING TO GIVE US A SIGNAL THAT WE NEED TO START GETTING TO 49:09 MORE REMOTE PLACES WHERE WE CAN BE SELF-SUFFICIENT BECAUSE 49:12 THERE'S GOING TO BE A GREAT TIME OF TROUBLE. 49:14 BUT THERE'LL BE PERSECUTION THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWHERE 49:17 - CAN YOU HIDE THESE DAYS? I MEAN, YOU JUST LOOK AT THE 49:21 TECHNOLOGY THE GOVERNMENT HAS FOR TRACKING PEOPLE DOWN. 49:24 DO YOU REALLY THINK - I MEAN, I KNOW PEOPLE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE 49:26 A DRIVER'S LICENSE. THEY DON'T HAVE A SOCIAL 49:28 SECURITY - THEY'RE TRYING TO LIVE OFF THE GRID. 49:30 OH, COME ON, WHO ARE YOU KIDDING? 49:33 THERE'S VIDEO CAMERAS EVERYWHERE. 49:35 THEY'RE IN THE AIR RIGHT NOW. THEY'VE GOT INFRARED. 49:37 WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO, WALK AROUND WITH TINFOIL ON YOUR BODY 49:39 AT NIGHT? WHAT KIND OF LIFE ARE YOU GOING TO LIVE? 49:43 SO PEOPLE TRYING TO HIDE - YOU KNOW, GOD'LL HAVE TO 49:45 TAKE CARE OF YOU. AND YES, YOU'RE GOING TO MAYBE 49:48 BE - YOU'RE GOING TO BE CORNERED AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY, 49:52 'WHY DO YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU BELIEVE? 49:54 YOU MIGHT BE CHALLENGED. YOU MIGHT BE BROUGHT TO TRIAL. 49:56 YOU MAY EXPERIENCE SOME PERSECUTION. 49:59 ARE WE TO HIDE FROM THAT OR DID JESUS SAY, 'IF THEY PERSECUTE 50:02 YOU IN THIS CITY, GO TO THE NEXT ONE.' THAT'S WHAT HE SAID. 50:06 AND SO HE'S TOLD YOU, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE 50:07 A CHRISTIAN THERE'S GOING TO BE TRIALS. 50:09 THIS MENTALITY THAT I RUN INTO IN THE CHURCH ABOUT 'WELL, BUT 50:13 IF I GET ENOUGH 5-GALLON BUCKETS AND IF I CAN GET OFF THE GRID 50:16 AND' - YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A HOUSE IN THE COUNTRY - WE HAVE A 50:19 PLACE LIKE THAT THAT'S SOLAR POWERED AND - BUT WE DIDN'T DO 50:23 IT TO SAVE YOURSELF. FIRST OF ALL, WHO HERE DOESN'T 50:26 KNOW THAT WE HAVE A COUNTRY PLACE IN THE HILLS? 50:29 FIRST PLACE THEY'RE GOING TO GO LOOKING FOR ME, 50:30 SO THERE'S NOWHERE YOU CAN REALLY HIDE. 50:35 THE IDEA THAT, 'IF I JUST STORE UP ENOUGH 50:38 SOYBEANS AND IF I'VE GOT ENOUGH WHEAT. 50:40 AND, YOU KNOW, IF I GET THIS CANNED FOOD THAT LASTS FOR 50 50:42 YEARS AND I CAN DO ALL THIS.' THE MENTALITY IS: 'I'M GOING TO 50:45 SAVE MYSELF SOMEHOW.' HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT MORMONS STORE 50:49 ENOUGH FOOD TO LAST A YEAR OR TWO? I FORGET WHAT IT IS. 50:51 HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT? LET ME SEE YOUR HANDS. 50:54 SO WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GO WHEN YOU GET HUNGRY? 50:57 WE'RE GOING TO GO SEE OUR MORMON FRIENDS, RIGHT? 51:03 THAT STUFF'S GOING TO - YEAH, OR A CAVE - YOU CAN'T - YOUR FAITH 51:08 CAN'T BE IN SAVING YOURSELF BECAUSE OF COUNTRY LIVING OR THE 51:11 FOOD YOU'VE GOT STOCKPILED. THERE'S GOING TO BE PERSECUTION 51:15 AND YOU JUST NEED TO LIVE IN THE LIGHT. LET YOUR LIGHT SHINE, 51:18 RIGHT? DON'T PUT YOUR LIGHT UNDER A BUSH. 51:20 GOD WANTS US TO SHARE THE MESSAGE. 51:22 AND SO, I JUST WORRY ABOUT THE MENTALITY ABOUT 'LET'S GO CRAWL 51:24 UNDER A ROCK SOMEWHERE UNTIL THE TRIBULATION COMES.' 51:27 YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SAVE YOURSELF THAT WAY. 51:30 IT'S GOING TO BE SURRENDERING TO JESUS. 51:32 AND WHEN YOU COMPLETELY SURRENDER TO JESUS AND YOU'RE 51:34 CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST, YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO USE THE LIFE 51:36 THAT'S LEFT IN SPREADING THE GOSPEL, RIGHT? 51:40 THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A DISCIPLE: TO GO - JESUS SAID TO 51:43 PETER, 'COME AND FOLLOW ME.' PAUL SAID, 'BEFORE I DIE I WANT 51:46 TO GO TO ROME.' HE DIDN'T SAY, 'I WANT TO GO TO THE HIMALAYAS 51:49 AND HIDE.' HE SAID, 'I WANT TO GO TO ROME AND PREACH THE GOSPEL 51:53 - REACH AS MANY PEOPLE AS I CAN.' HE LAID DOWN HIS LIFE. 51:57 AND SO, I JUST THOUGHT WE SHOULD REALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT'S 52:01 INVOLVED HERE IN THE COST OF DISCIPLESHIP. 52:03 LET ME READ SOMETHING TO YOU - I'LL CLOSE WITH THIS: 52:06 'STEPS TO CHRIST' PAGE 47, "MANY ARE INQUIRING, 52:11 'HOW AM I TO MAKE A SURRENDER OF MYSELF TO GOD?' 52:14 YOU DESIRE TO GIVE YOURSELF TO HIM BUT YOU'RE WEAK IN MORAL 52:16 POWER, IN SLAVERY TO DOUBT AND CONTROLLED BY THE HABITS OF YOUR 52:20 LIFE OF SIN.' - THAT WOULD BE MOST OF US - "YOUR PROMISES AND 52:23 RESOLUTIONS ARE LIKE ROPES OF SAND. YOU CANNOT CONTROL YOUR 52:27 THOUGHTS, YOUR IMPULSES, YOUR AFFECTIONS. 52:29 THE KNOWLEDGE OF YOUR BROKEN PROMISES AND FORFEITED PLEDGES 52:32 WEAKENS YOUR CONFIDENCE IN YOUR OWN SINCERITY AND CAUSES YOU TO 52:36 FEEL THAT GOD CANNOT ACCEPT YOU. BUT YOU NEED NOT DESPAIR. 52:40 WHAT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS THE TRUE FORCE OF THE WILL. 52:43 THIS IS THE GOVERNING POWER IN THE NATURE OF MAN. 52:47 THE POWER OF DECISION OR OF CHOICE. 52:49 EVERYTHING DEPENDS ON THE RIGHT ACTION OF THE WILL. 52:52 THE POWER OF CHOICE GOD HAS GIVEN TO MAN. 52:55 IT IS THEIRS TO EXERCISE. YOU CANNOT CHANGE YOUR HEART. 52:58 YOU CANNOT OF YOURSELF GIVE GOD OF ITS AFFECTIONS, 53:01 BUT YOU CAN CHOOSE TO SERVE HIM. YOU CAN GIVE YOUR WILL TO HIM 53:07 THEN HE WILL WORK IN YOU TO WILL AND TO DO ACCORDING TO HIS GOOD 53:11 PLEASURE. THUS YOUR WHOLE NATURE WILL BE 53:13 BROUGHT UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST. 53:16 YOUR AFFECTIONS WILL BE CENTERED UPON HIM. 53:18 YOUR THOUGHTS WILL BE IN HARMONY WITH HIM." - 53:20 THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. DID YOU GET THAT? 53:25 ALL WE CAN DO IS SAY, 'LORD, I ADMIT I'M HELPLESS. 53:28 MY PROMISES ARE LIKE ROPES OF SAND. 53:31 WITHOUT YOU I CAN DO NOTHING. BUT I WANT TO FOLLOW YOU. 53:34 I AM CHOOSING TO FOLLOW YOU.' AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU GIVE 53:37 THE LORD PERMISSION TO ACTIVATE THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT 53:41 BECAUSE HE WILL NOT FORCE YOU TO LOVE HIM. 53:43 BUT IF YOU SAY, 'I WANT TO LOVE YOU. I WANT TO SERVE YOU. 53:46 HELP ME.' AND INVITE HIM INTO YOUR LIFE THEN, WHEN THOSE 53:50 STRUGGLES COME, HE WILL UNITE HIS SUPERNATURAL POWER WITH YOUR 53:54 FREE WILL AND YOU CAN START EXPERIENCING VICTORIES. 53:59 THAT'S HOW IT HAPPENS, AMEN? 54:01 AND THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS TO LIVE THE LIFE THAT YOU SAY, 'NOT I 54:05 BUT CHRIST.' THERE'LL BE CHALLENGES - THERE'S GOING TO BE 54:08 TRIALS IN LIFE, BUT YOU CAN MAKE A CHOICE. 54:12 OKAY, I'VE RUN OUT OF TIME. WE DO HAVE - I WANT TO MENTION 54:15 OUR FREE OFFER - IT'S A GREAT BOOK BY JOE CREWS. 54:19 WE'VE REPRINTED THIS SEVERAL TIMES BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SUCH A 54:21 POPULAR BOOK. IF YOU'VE NOT READ IT BEFORE, 54:23 'THE HIGH COST OF THE CROSS' - WE'LL SEND IT TO YOU FOR FREE. 54:26 JUST ASK FOR OFFER #156 WHEN YOU CALL THE NUMBER 866-STUDY-MORE - 54:32 THAT'S 866-788-3966. PLEASE READ IT AND SHARE IT AND 54:36 GOD BLESS YOU. WHEN WE STUDY AGAIN NEXT WEEK, 54:40 DON'T FORGET, WE'LL BE STARTING WITH OUR NEW QUARTERLY TALKING 54:43 ABOUT CHRIST AND HIS LAW. BLESSINGS. 54:48 >>IN 3 - 2 - 1 - ACTION! 55:00 >>THIS DOCUMENTARY COVERS A SPAN FROM THE FIRST COMING OF JESUS 55:06 AND WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE CHURCH UP UNTIL JUST BEFORE THE 55:10 SECOND COMING OF JESUS. IT SHOWS THE GREAT APOSTASY THAT 55:15 CREPT INTO THE CHURCH AND, ULTIMATELY, THE GREAT REVIVAL 55:20 THROUGH THE GREAT REFORMATION. THIS IS A LIFE AND DEATH BATTLE. 55:26 IT'S NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT IS HAPPENING IN HALLUCINATIONS OF A 55:30 PROPHET. THOSE THINGS ARE PLAYED OUT IN REAL HISTORY. 55:44 >>THIS IS AN EXCITING DAY. 55:45 THIS IS NOT ONLY OUR FIRST SHOOT FOR STUDIO FOR REVELATION, BUT 55:49 THIS IS ALSO OUR FIRST REAL SHOOT IN THIS STUDIO. 55:54 WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROJECT, THE PAINT WAS LITERALLY DRYING 55:58 ON THE BLUE CYC THAT WE SHOT MOST OF THE SCENES ON AND WE 56:01 LITERALLY PUT IN THE FLOORING AND ALL THE PILLARS AND 56:05 EVERYTHING TO SHOOT THE SCENES WITH PASTOR DOUG BATCHELOR. 56:09 WHEN WE CREATED OUR SCENE BREAKDOWN, WE DECIDED THAT THERE 56:13 WERE ABOUT 68 SCENES THAT WERE REALLY PIVOTAL TO TELLING THIS 56:17 STORY TO MAKE IT WHAT WE DREAMED AND IMAGINED IT COULD BE. 56:22 >>WE HAD A WISH LIST OF THINGS WE WANTED TO RECREATE BUT YOU 56:25 ALSO HAVE TO DEAL WITHIN REALITY AND A BUDGET AND SO WE NEEDED TO 56:28 PICK, YOU KNOW, WHICH OF THE SCENES WE NEEDED TO COMMUNICATE 56:33 THE DRAMA AND THE EMOTION OF WHAT HAS REALLY HAPPENED IN 56:36 RELIGIOUS HISTORY FROM THE TIME OF CHRIST'S FIRST COMING UP 56:39 UNTIL WHERE WE ARE TODAY. 56:41 WE MADE THE CHOICE TO ACTUALLY SEND A FILM CREW TO DIFFERENT 56:44 PARTS OF THE WORLD TO GET FRESH FOOTAGE OF SOME OF THE SCENES OF 56:49 THE REFORMATION IN EUROPE AND SOME OF THE CATACOMBS IN ROME. 56:56 >>NOW WE'RE IN ROME AND WE'RE ACTUALLY IN A CATACOMB WHERE THE 57:01 CHRISTIANS WOULD BURY THEIR DEAD. 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